Holy Schlittler! Rookie Righty Dominates Red Sox as Yankees Advance to ALDS

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NEW YORK — In just the second winner-take-all postseason matchup started by two rookies — in one of the sport’s most storied rivalries, no less — 24-year-old Yankees righty Cam Schlittler utterly dominated the Red Sox lineup on Thursday, striking out 12 without a walk while scattering just five hits over eight scoreless innings. His opposite number, 23-year-old lefty Connelly Early, matched Schlittler zero for zero through the first three frames, making up with deception what he lacked in velocity, at least relative to the New York starter. Alas, a mistake by the Red Sox defense opened the door to trouble in the fourth inning, as five of the first six Yankees reached base en route to a 4-0 lead. Boston manager Alex Cora, who pulled starter Brayan Bello after 28 pitches in Game 2, left Early to throw 33 pitches in the fourth inning alone. That outburst was more than enough, as the Yankees eliminated the Red Sox from the postseason for the first time since 2003, when current manager Aaron Boone hit a walk-off home run off Tim Wakefield.

This was the sixth time the two AL East rivals squared off in the postseason, with the Red Sox riding a series winning streak that included the 2004 American League Championship Series, the 2018 AL Division Series, and the 2021 AL Wild Card Game. The only other time two rookie starters met in a winner-take-all game was in Game 7 of the 2020 NLCS, when the Dodgers’ Dustin May and the Braves’ Ian Anderson went head to head, though May pitched just one inning and Anderson three, and neither figured in the decision.

The two starters in this one began the season in Double-A, and didn’t figure to contribute substantially this season. Schlittler joined a banged-up Yankees rotation on July 9 and pitched brilliantly during the second half, overpowering batters with a four-seam fastball that averaged 98.0 mph as well as an effective cutter. He posted a 2.96 ERA and 3.74 FIP with a 27.6% strikeout rate in 14 starts, and was an easy choice for Boone to start Game 3 following Max Fried and Carlos Rodón. By contrast, Early only debuted on September 9, and pitched brilliantly (2.33 ERA, 0.91 FIP) but might not have made the postseason roster — or at least would not have started — had Lucas Giolito not been sidelined by elbow trouble. While Garrett Crochet’s 7 2/3 innings in Game 1 required Cora to use only closer Aroldis Chapman in relief, the manager didn’t like what he saw from Bello in Game 2 and pulled him with one out in the third, leaving him to call upon six relievers, one of whom (Garrett Whitlock) threw a season-high 47 pitches and gave up the winning run.

On Thursday, Early looked very good… early. He needed just eight pitches to work through a clean first inning, stranded Giancarlo Stanton after a 114.5-mph leadoff double in the second, and struck out five of the 11 hitters he faced through three innings, with five whiffs and a 37.8% CSW (called strike and whiff rate). That said, while he did a good job of mixing in six different pitches — a four-seamer that averaged 94.1 mph, plus a sinker, sweeper, changeup, curve, and slider — the Yankees did make him work harder after the first; he threw 23 pitches in the second inning and 14 in the third.

Early’s troubles began when Cody Bellinger, leading off the fourth, blooped a shallow fly ball into right center, where center fielder Ceddanne Rafaela and right fielder Wilyer Abreu — each among the best at his respective position by the metrics this year — both converged along with second baseman Romy Gonzalez. The ball glanced off the webbing of Rafaela’s glove, and by the time Gonzalez recovered to throw to second, Bellinger was safe. Stanton then worked a seven-pitch walk, prompting a visit from pitching coach Andrew Bailey. Early struck out Ben Rice swinging at a sweeper on the lower outside black, but Amed Rosario, drawing a start against a lefty for the second time in the series, hit a 108.2-mph sizzler just to the right of a diving Trevor Story, and Bellinger beat the throw home, giving the Yankees a 1-0 lead. Jazz Chisholm Jr. and Anthony Volpe followed with singles off 94-ish fastballs in the upper third of the strike zone, the latter bringing home Stanton.

By this point, righty Justin Slaten was warming up, but Cora stuck with his starter. Eight pitches into Austin Wells’ at-bat, he swung and appeared to make contact with the glove of catcher Carlos Narváez. Home plate umpire Mark Ripperger ruled catchers interference, apparently forcing in a run, but the call was overturned upon review. With a full count, Wells — who drove in the game-winning run on Wednesday night — hit a 100.3-mph smash toward first base. The ball deflected off Nathaniel Lowe’s glove and eluded Gonzalez, with both Rosario and Chisholm scoring. The play was ruled an error, and it gave the Yankees a 4-0 lead. Early stayed in to retire lefty Trent Grisham on a fly ball, then Slaten replaced him and induced Aaron Judge to ground out.

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Cora refused to hang the blame on his rookie starter. “We didn’t play defense. The popup drops, there’s a double, and there’s a walk, and they didn’t hit the ball hard, but they found holes. It just happened fast,” said the manager. Regarding Early, he added, “The kid did a good job. He threw the ball well, induced them to weak contact, but it didn’t happen for us tonight… just a few balls that went by, right? The Rosario and Volpe [balls], but he made pitches. And he didn’t get rattled.”

By the numbers, Cora overstated the case for Early, as the Yankees averaged a 94.7-mph exit velocity on the 12 balls they put into play against him, five of which were hard-hit — four of the six hits he allowed plus the Wells grounder. Still, that was secondary to the job Schlittler did of carving up the Red Sox. “We needed to be perfect tonight, because he was perfect,” said Cora. “The stuff is outstanding. He was under control. That was electric.”

Indeed. Schlittler came out of the gate throwing absolute gas. His first two pitches to leadoff hitter Jarren Duran produced swinging strikes on 98.7- and 99.7-mph four-seam fastballs on the inner third of the plate. Duran fouled off his third, a 100.5-mph sinker, and took his fourth, a high 100.5-mph four-seamer, for a ball. He lined out to Chisholm on Schlittler’s sixth pitch, then Story popped out to Rice, and Alex Bregman struck out looking at a high 100.1-mph fastball after Rice dropped a foul popup. Of Schlittler’s 14 first-inning pitches, six were 100 mph or higher and 10 were 98.7 or higher.

Schlittler apparently had a bit of extra motivation. A native of Walpole, Massachusetts, he pitched for Boston-based Northeastern University, and was chosen in the seventh round of the 2022 draft, one pick after the Red Sox drafted Caleb Bolden, who put up a 5.78 ERA at Double-A Portland this year.

“It was personal for me,” said Schlittler during the celebration in the Yankees clubhouse. “People from Boston had a lot to say before the game, I didn’t like some of the things they were saying today… There was a line, and I think they crossed it a little bit. I’m a competitor. I’m going to go out there and make sure I shut them down.

“Boston fans, that’s just how it is,” he continued. “We’re aggressive back home, and we’re going to try and get under people’s skin. They just picked the wrong guy to do it to. It’s the wrong team to do it to, as well.”

Though he struck out both Rafaela (foul tip on a 98.8-mph sinker) and Lowe (looking at a 100.7-mph sinker) following a leadoff single by Masataka Yoshida to start the second, Schlittler threw 23 pitches in the inning, but he grew more efficient, needing just 12 pitches to complete the third (which featured strikeouts of Gonzalez and Duran) and 10 to complete the fourth, working around a two-out single by Yoshida. Staked to the lead, he labored for 20 pitches in the fifth, the only time the Red Sox put two men on base at the same time or got a runner to second; Lowe singled, and after strikeouts of Narváez and Abreu, Gonzalez singled as well, but Duran went down on just three pitches, the last of them a checked swing on a 99.9-mph four-seamer that was off the plate inside.

After that, the real question was how long Boone would stick with Schlittler. Fernando Cruz, who pitched in Games 1 and 2, was warming up in both the sixth and seventh, and Devin Williams in the eighth, but Schlittler just kept pounding the strike zone, with Story’s single to lead off the sixth the only baserunner he allowed over his final three innings. He needed just 28 pitches to record his final nine outs, including seven to retire the side in the eighth.

“I didn’t even want to talk to him much,” said Boone. “I just wanted to say, You good? Usually I will come down the steps if I am going to have a conversation or take him out. I kind of stood on the steps and just gave him my, ‘Are you good? [look].’ He was.”

Schlittler ended up throwing 107 pitches (a professional career high), 75 for strikes, including 21 called strikes and 18 whiffs (36.4% CSW). Eleven of those whiffs were with the four-seamer (which averaged 98.9 mph, 0.9 above his season average), five on the sinker (which averaged 99 mph, 1.5 mph above his season average), and two via the cutter. The Red Sox averaged an exit velocity of just 84.3 mph on the 17 balls they put into play against him, only five of which were hard-hit balls of 95 mph or higher.

Schlittler had never pitched eight innings in a professional game. “In the minors, they are really good about managing workload, and you kind of hover around that 95-pitch mark,” he said. His longest major league outing by innings was his seven-inning start against the Orioles last Saturday, while his highest pitch count was 100 (in six-plus innings) against the White Sox on August 30.

“I thought I was done after the seventh,” he said. “So for [Boone] to give me the confidence to go back there and get out the eighth was a great feeling.”

Schlittler actually made some history. According to MLB.com’s Sarah Langs, he’s the first pitcher to throw eight or more scoreless innings with 12 or more strikeouts and no walks in a postseason game. And according to our own Matt Martell, he’s the seventh rookie to strike out at least 10 in a postseason start:

10 or More Strikeouts by a Rookie Starter in a Postseason Game
Player Series Gm Date Team Opp IP H ER HR BB SO
Livan Hernandez NLCS 5 10/12/1997 FLA ATL 9 3 1 1 2 15
Mike Boddicker ALCS 2 10/6/1983 BAL CHW 9 5 0 0 3 14
John Candelaria NLCS 3 10/7/1975 PIT CIN 7 2/3 3 3 2 2 14
Cam Schlittler ALWC 3 10/2/2025 NYY BOS 8 5 0 0 0 12
Don Newcombe WS 1 10/5/1949 BRO NYY 8 5 1 1 0 11
Tim Belcher NLCS 2 10/5/1988 LAD NYM 8 1/3 5 3 1 3 10
Dave Righetti ALDS 2 10/8/1981 NYY MIL 6 4 0 0 2 10
Source: Baseball-Reference

“When you throw 100 and command the baseball and can land your secondary pitches, you can be a problem for the opposition,” said Boone, in perhaps the night’s biggest understatement.

For the series, Yankees starters combined to allow just three runs in 20 1/3 innings, helping to paper over a suspect bullpen that put up a 4.74 ERA from August 1 on, after general manager Brian Cashman traded for closer David Bednar (who worked around a leadoff walk of Bregman in a scoreless ninth, in his third appearance in as many nights), and righties Camilo Doval and Jake Bird. The Yankees became the first out of 16 teams to win a best-of-three Wild Card Series after losing the first game since the 12-team format was put into place in 2022. They’ll now head to Toronto to play another divisional foe, the Blue Jays, in the best-of-five AL Division Series, which begins on Saturday.

As Boone put it, “The boys answered the bell and played great baseball these couple days.”





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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lewisletterman
1 year ago

How the heck was Schlittler only the 89th best prospect in baseball back in July? A 6’6″ dude throwing 101mph sinkers and 99mph cutters. Why was he not hyped as much as McLean??? Same age and Schlitter has way better stuff and is a lot bigger. Keith Law saw him back in July, right before he was called up, and said he might be a back-end guy at best and didn’t think much of him after he had his only bad start of the season. I bet Keith would like to have that one back. I never have seen batters look more helpless than the Red Sox did against Schlitter tonight and I watched Paul Skenes pitch all season.

Was he just a late blooming guy a lot of scouts and baseball prospect guys badly missed on?

Last edited 1 year ago by lewisletterman
keithk
1 year ago
Reply to  lewisletterman

The Yankees prospect report on Fangraphs says that his fastball sits at 93-96 and tops out at 98. Assuming that Eric L. didn’t get this wrong it means that his velocity has ticked up significantly this season. Given that he hasn’t shown consistent command that ranking seems reasonable. As a Yankee fan I’m hoping that he has a lot more nights like tonight and makes those prospect rankings seem silly.

TheBabboMember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  keithk

From Baseball America’s JJ Cooper:

Cam Schlittler velo progression:
2022: Sits at 90-91, maxes out at 93
2023: Sits at 90 mph, maxes out at 92.
2024: Sits at 93.5 mph, maxes out at 97
2025: Sits at 98 mph, maxes out at 101

FrancoeursteinMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  TheBabbo

Gonna enjoy watching him pitch before he takes his inevitable year and half sabbatical

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

I swear, every time I hear about a guy gaining velocity like that it’s followed a year later by a trip to the surgeon.

FrancoeursteinMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Pitchers have gotten too good, unfortunately our soft tissue hasn’t evolved to adapt to those mechanical stresses

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

I strongly agree. The search for new arm angles and velocity bumps has done something terrible for arm health. (Maybe new grips too based on some of the spin rates we are seeing, but I don’t know about that for sure)

opifijiklMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I am nervous about this for Early too

JimmieFoxxalorianMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  opifijikl

I am less nervous about TJS risk for Early. He doesn’t gas out at 100 the way Schlittler does. I quite like Early, saw him pitch a couple times this year, once in majors and once in minors. Hitters appear visibly frustrated when facing him. The variety of his stuff carries a bucket full of potential. He don’t need to jack up his velo to be effective (which is becoming a scarcer quality to find in this era)

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

As more and more 6’6″ pitchers get to the Show the more often the game is going to turn into the type of game we saw last night. Tolle is 2 years younger than Schlittler. He could be throwing 103 by the time he is 24. The National League was fortunate to have one player hit .300 and Turner might not have held on if he hadn’t missed the last 10 or so games. The increased velocity is the culprit, both in terms of too many strikeouts, too few baserunners and the inevitable injuries that come from the excessive exertion that pitchers exhibit. There is only one reasonable solution that I can see to lessen the unquestioned value of extra heat and that is to give the hitters more time to see the pitch. It is getting more obvious with each passing year that the game needs to strike a better balance between hitting and pitching. I have lived long enough to see the average athlete, in every sport, explode in physical size. The 1964 Kentucky basketball team won the NCAA Championship without a player over 6’5″. An NFL lineman seldom weighed 250 lbs yet baseball is still asking hitters to face pitchers from the same distance since 1983 despite the fact that the ball is now being thrown perhaps as much as 15-20 mph faster, by everyone and not just a few, than just 50 years ago and it is going to continue to get worse.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Of course I meant 1893.

opifijiklMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  keithk

Saw this with a few pitchers this year – must be getting harder to anticipate just how fast pitching dev is moving. Early was one where his scouting report on FG didn’t match his first game, probably because he’s advanced so much, not because of anything missed in the report

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
1 year ago
Reply to  lewisletterman

The stuff was always there but command/control were/are his issues.

He obviously just had everything clicking last night, but I would pump the brakes on the expectations going forward.

cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago

The stuff was very much not “always there”. He was sitting 90 two years ago.

He also never really had major walk problems? He’s never had excellent command but his highest BB/9 rates were in the low 4s. I don’t think Eric or anyone really saw a ton of relief risk.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

60 grade fastball and 50/60 curveball per this site’s preseason report. That’s good stuff.

10% walk rate in the minors (what he did pre-2025) is kinda pushing it for long-term SP upside

Last edited 1 year ago by TheGarrettCooperFanClub
cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago

If this isn’t a 70 grade fastball, than what on Earth is

opifijiklMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

Peyton Tolle’s fastball! Luis Gil too! Also Jared Jones and Skenes, plus Jacob Misiorowski. Based on 2024 and 2025 scouting reports of Present Value FB

Yesterday that played like a 85-grade fastball – Sox just couldn’t handle it.

Last edited 1 year ago by opifijikl
sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  opifijikl

Interesting note when I went to go look up the pitch grades that the pitch models spit out:

Stuff+ and PitchingBot basically don’t ever assign 80 grades, but Stuff+ has Misiorowski, Greene, and Wheeler as having 70-grade fastballs. And PitchingBot has Greene, Roupp, Trevor Williams (!!), Reynaldo Lopez, Wheeler, and deGrom as 70.

If we’re just going by “Stuff” grades and not location then it’s Misiorowski, Burns, and Greene in PitchingBot, and Misiorowski only in Stuff+.

The Stuff+ grades have always made more sense to me. If we figure there are only 1-2 starters and 2-4 relievers with 80 fastball grades then it seems like Misiorowski and Greene have what you might call an 80 grade fastball, as well as Jake Bird, Jeremiah Estrada, and Aroldis Chapman. That passes the conventional wisdom test, I think.

markymarc767Member since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

It’s a 70 grade fastball now, but I’m pretty sure mid-season reports were saying that he never touched 100 in the minors. He was pitching well enough to get the call-up when Schmidt went down, but I assume Blake and co. were able to coax an extra couple of ticks when he made it to the big leagues.

lewisletterman
1 year ago
Reply to  markymarc767

Is an 80 grade fastball a cyborg arm and sitting at 103mph with perfect command for 9 innings? Other than that, Schlitter has to have an 80 grade fastall after what I saw last night.

wingedbeater
1 year ago
Reply to  lewisletterman

Some were on him (https://lancebroz.substack.com/p/yankees-cam-schlittler-debut-slider-reds-andrew-abbott-breakdown-guardians-slade-cecconi-pitching-analysis). Strikes me that the industry is too slow to update its priors about pitchers, especially given all the pitch profiling stuff that’s easily available.

darren
1 year ago
Reply to  lewisletterman

The Yankees have a secret program for anyone 6’6″ and taller. It takes away whatever your flaws are and it increases your strengths. That’s why they’ve acquired Zach Edey.

David Klein
1 year ago

Boy between not bringing in Chapman in to face Wells in game two in the eighth and leaving in Early way too long Cora didn’t have a good series. That said; Cam was a force of nature yesterday and was not to be denied he looked like a young Noah Syndergaard out there. I predict that the Yankees beat the Jays in four with Bichette unlikely to play in that series.

darren
1 year ago
Reply to  David Klein

I have a lot of beefs with Cora but I agreed with leaving Early in as long as he did. The last three hitters he faced:

Volpe groundball .170 xBA
Wells groundball .250 xBA
Grisham flyball .010 XBA

He was pitching pretty well but the ball was finding holes and the defense was falling apart behind him.

carterMember since 2020
1 year ago

Read some discussion on Twitter about how he essentially throws 3 fastballs (4seam cutter sinker) and how a lot of people theorize this is going to be more common. I mean I would imagine at that velocity it is going to be hard to hit. Can’t recall the last time I saw so many batters swing at so many balls that far out of the zone (up). Just constantly balls 6+ inches high

opifijiklMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  Jay Jaffe

Good point! He touched on this in his Sep-14 interview with Laurila too!

opifijiklMember since 2024
1 year ago

Kudos to shifty Shlitty, he was bonkers last night! So many well placed pitches, all at a hundred! The Red Sox swung at so many strikes above the zone that my friend asked if they were stupid or something.

The fielding was also clumsy. Every Yankee hit turned into a clown show.

The bar eventually stopped playing the broadcast and instead had dance music by the 7th inning.

Great season, tons of fun, loved the clubhouse vibes (regrettably, after Devers left). Hopefully this was a bridge year for our army of rookies to get their feet wet. Now let’s take all the $$ coming of the books from Hosmer and pay for some pitchers, a second baseman, and more medical staff.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  opifijikl

Realistically they need a guy like Ranger Suarez, Dylan Cease, or Shane Bieber to pitch behind Crochet. But I think they’re going to wind up with a guy with injury issues and decent upside, like Michael King or Brandon Woodruff. They (and the Mets) like shopping in that pool of pitchers.

They probably should prioritize bringing back Bregman, but they could really use a second and first baseman too. Casas is might never stay healthy and probably has some things to work on anyway before he can be a major league contributor again. Lowe might be a good fit if he’s not too expensive.

The perfect fit for them at second base is Semien, and they could probably get the Rangers to pay down a huge chunk of the contract. He’s never hurt and he got really unlucky last year, I don’t see anything on his statcast page that alarms me. But I bet they balk because they “don’t want to block” Mikey Romero or Marcelo Mayer, never mind that both of them and Trevor Story have some real injury questions.

cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

King would make sense especially since he’s a New England guy

opifijiklMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

Schlittler is a New England guy too… so sad. Maybe the Sox will start scouting Boston a little bit harder!!!

cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  opifijikl

Rice is as well. I think the Red Sox were the other team that looked at drafting him, but the Yankees ended up snatching him

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  opifijikl

Northeastern University is almost in the shadow of Fenway Park.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

For those of you who don’t know Boston, I will elaborate on bosoxforlife’s statement.

Northeastern University is almost in the shadow of Fenway Park.

Boston University is literally in the shadow of Fenway Park.

(There’s also another three or four colleges that are almost in the shadow of Fenway Park. At one time there was an intersection where there was a different college on every corner, but I think one of them might have closed)

Last edited 1 year ago by sadtrombone
sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

If I’m a team over the tax line the guy I want is Bieber because he can’t get a QO. But after that I would roll the dice on King. When he is healthy he is terrifying to face. I also like Woodruff but it’s been so long since he pitched regularly I don’t know what to expect anymore.

Merrill Kelly and Chris Bassitt are safer options and I like them for a team that needs innings but I think King and Woodruff are more interesting options for a team that needs a #2 or a #3 for the playoffs.

opifijiklMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I agree on prioritizing Bregman – he’s been a huge asset on and off the field. The Sox have a ton of OK pitchers who are currently hurt (Gio, Sandoval, Houck, Dobbins) or getting their feet wet (Harrison, Tolle, Early) – you can hope one of them takes the leap since they’re pretty young, but it would be good to get another great starter externally too.

I’m not sure about Semien – he’s 35 & just had a down year. Not the kind of player I get excited about. Although, the defense is intriguing…

Next year I expect Campbell (NOT Isaiah!) to be back in the big leagues, so he may need to go somewhere too.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  opifijikl

I am convinced Semien is roughly the same player as he was in 2024. His statcast page has been extremely similar all four years he has been in Texas, both hitting and running. I think he’ll be fine.

darren
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

You mentioned he never gets hurt but he missed the last month of last season. I like him a lot but I think he’s a gamble given that and his age.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  darren

Oh yeah, he did didn’t he! That’s very unlike him. I’m still not super concerned.

MoMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think they could really use a shortstop, but I don’t know who would be available.

Move Story and his -9 OAA to second. Keep Romy Gonzalez at first base (he is not very good at second base), perhaps in a platoon with Casas.

Mayer looked pretty good in the field but will he hit enough and can he stay healthy? I think he needs to start the year in a bench role or at AAA.

If they roll it back with the same people and ideas, the infield defense will be terrible again for the umpteenth year in a row.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Mo

Yeah there are not many shortstops available. Bichette would be a defensive downgrade, Kim isn’t opting out. I think the hope is that Mayer can take the shortstop job but realistically one of him and Story will always be hurt. I think the best you can do is hope your farm system turns up some guys and get strong defenders at third and second.

Romy Gonzalez is playable but below average everywhere. A good break glass in case of emergency option because he can hit but not someone you want to play every day for the whole season.

Brock244
1 year ago
Reply to  Mo

Marcelo Mayer is definitely their guy for SS. I think having him there with Story at 2B (and shifting to SS if needed) is the plan. Obviously there may/may not be the durability stuff, but I think he will hit, his data is awesome.

Last edited 1 year ago by Brock244
darren
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Realistically they need a guy like Ranger Suarez, Dylan Cease, or Shane Bieber to pitch behind Crochet. But I think they’re going to wind up with a guy with injury issues and decent upside, like Michael King or Brandon Woodruff. They (and the Mets) like shopping in that pool of pitchers.

It’s a very clever strategy. Instead of signing a top starter for 5-6 years and only getting 3-4 good years, you sign one of these guys for one every year, and you get 0 good years.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  darren

It worked with Matthew Boyd! And both Manaea and Severino with the Mets. Teams are also really scared of a Corbin Burnes like situation.

I think if you have a fantastic pitcher available it can be worth it, but I think there are enough question marks about the top starters on the free agent market right now that I don’t know that it’s super clear cut who the best guys will be. Bieber has barely pitched in the last couple years, Cease had a down year, I have some questions about how Framber’s stuff plays against elite hitting. I think probably the best pitcher is Ranger Suarez and his fastball is only 91 MPH.

I said this before but if I’m a team over the tax line Bieber is my first pick by far and I would be willing to go over what I think he “should” get, but otherwise King and Woodruff represent decent gambles. It’s not like Giolito and Buehler who were bad but healthy, these guys are the opposite.

cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Bieber is three years and a Tommy John removed from pitching like a #2 starter

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think they have those pitchers on the roster now. Early has shown he has major league ability. He was good last night despite the outcome, and Tolle is definitely a bright prospect. I would not be surprised if they both were in the 2026 rotation on Opening Day. Suarez would make it four lefties, probably not ideal in Fenway, Cease is another Chris Archer, not as good as people think. Bieber and King might be the better choices. Giving up real players for an aging Semien doesn’t do it for me. I believe in Mayer and as far as injuries go, they happen. 1st base is a gaping hole. Casas has never excited the faithful but there are no other options out there. Bregman is a conundrum. He wasn’t the same player after returning and that is a lot of money for a player who might be declining. I find it interesting that he was thought to be the perfect Fenway Park hitter yet hit much worse at home than on the road. The Red Sox have money to spend and a plethora of outfield talent. The off-season should bring some dramatic changes and I can’t wait for 2026 to begin.

MoMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

The rotation will be interesting next year. I think Crochet, Bello, and Sandoval are all locks for the rotation (presuming all are healthy on opening day). Crawford probably has the edge on the #4 spot. If they sign Bieber, King, or someone else, that’s the opening day 5-man rotation.

Do Tolle, Early, Harrison, Fitts, Dobbins, Sandlin, and Perales all start in AAA?

Of course injuries will probably clarify things pretty quickly in the spring.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago
Reply to  Mo

Early has to pitch himself out of a spot after what he showed. Despite a hiccup or two after his exciting first start, I am sold on Tolle. Crawford isn’t near the top of my list, nor is Sandoval, which probably goes like this: Bello-Harrison-Dobbins-Fitts then the injured arms with the minor leaguers still developing. I certainly see the club grabbing a good pitcher in the off-season with several free agents, oodles of money available and plenty of trade candidates. It should be a right hander and KIng or Bieber would fit nicely.

Brock244
1 year ago
Reply to  Mo

I don’t know that I would pencil Sandoval and Crawford into spots, perhaps they earn them but the sox have a lot of starters. Presumably they add a starter and have Crochet/addition/Bello as locks then you have about 7 or 8 guys fighting for those last 2 spots.

MoMember since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  Brock244

Sandoval can’t be optioned to AAA, and he’s never pitched out of the bullpen. Unless he catches one of those phantom injuries like Hicks and May, I think he’s in the rotation.

Crawford has a couple options, but he also has almost 400 innings in the majors with good peripherals. He has averaged 2 War/162 innings for his career, which is about what Bello did this year.

Early and Tolle were great, but they were only throwing about 80 pitches per start and got up to ~120 innings for the year. It would be a big jump to a starters workload for either of them. Its also hard on the bullpen when starters get pulled early.

Obviously its still early in the off season, and its nice to have so much pitching depth.

Brock244
1 year ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Story moving to 2B I think is their best option, with Mayer playing SS. Mayer has way more upside than any guy they could get, I think he could be a star if he stays healthy given the bat speed and top end exit velos.

But in regards to the pitching, they definitely need someone to slot after Crochet. They have a lot of depth though and young starters they need to give reps to (along with Sandoval and Crawford!) so I don’t know that just an okay-starter cuts it. I was originally thinking they could QO Giolito, but I don’t think they want to risk him taking it. They probably need a guy like Cease or Bieber as you mentioned who can start g2 of a playoff series

Last edited 1 year ago by Brock244
sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Brock244

It’s probably Crochet, Early, and Bello who are locks, with a competition between Tolle, Crawford, Fitts, and Sandoval. The rotation would be a lot better with Bieber in between Early and Bello and only having one of those other four start the year in the rotation. I don’t think you can promise Sandoval a spot, he’s got a shot to be good but if he’s not ready to go you don’t want to push him out there over a better option. Sometimes things just don’t work out.

JimMember since 2016
1 year ago

Great headline, Meg.

OneearMember since 2018
1 year ago

Wasn’t there another game yesterday?

JustinPBGMember since 2018
1 year ago

‘It was personal for me.’

He literally did the Jordan meme.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
1 year ago

That is a pretty nice list of pitchers in that table. Newcombe was a star and Candelaria, Belcher, and Boddicker all had a good stretch where they were #2 or #3 starters. I still don’t understand why Righetti was moved to the bullpen considering that he was at worst their second best starter but that was when the cult of the closer was starting up and he did have a great career as a reliever.

cashgod27Member since 2024
1 year ago

This was a real “a star is born” moment. From the fourth inning or so on, you knew the Red Sox had no chance. The lead felt like it was 10-0. It happens so rarely, but it’s so incredible to get hyped about a prospect and then see him blow your expectations out of the water. Special talent on a special night.

Considering how Schlittler looked, the long leash for Early makes little sense. Should’ve had someone warming after the Bellinger double and then put in a righty for Rosario, since the Yankees didn’t have a good LHB on their bench.

What a huge win for the Yankees as an organization. Feels like a weight that’s been there for the entire Judge/Boone era was lifted.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

Agree. I think in the Boone era, the Yankees only playoff series wins have come against AL Central teams, which isn’t a great look, so this is just at least one for confidence at least.

ichiro262Member since 2024
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

Don’t know that the Yankees fans and media at large will feel like a weight is lifted by winning a wildcard series. Yankees couldn’t even fill the seats. I expect the Yanks will need to win a world series to get New York off their backs. I don’t think that’s fair, but I think that’s reality.

darren
1 year ago
Reply to  cashgod27

When would you have pulled Early? He pitched well enough to get at least 5 outs in the 4th inning but only got 2. His last three hitters:

Volpe groundball .170 xBA
Wells groundball .250 xBA
Grisham flyball .010 xBA

Also, Schlitter did look incredible but I don’t think they anticipated him keeping that up.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago

While I am obviously disappointed by the result I am always willing, but not happy, to give credit where credit is due and I am directing it to the manager of the New York Yankees, the oft-maligned Aaron Boone. I have been part of a debate on this site about the correct use of starting pitchers and my position has always been that when a starter is cruising it is nothing short of incompetence to yank him because of what some computer claims to be the proper move. Last night Aaron Boone managed with his eyes and his brain and was rewarded with a victory in must win game. I don’t know if there was a game plan but I doubt if many expected to see a rookie, making his first post-season start, to be still out there in the 8th but Boone saw what was happening. It was clear that the Red Sox were helpless against Schlittler’s consistent 100 mph assortment of fastballs, and responded absolutely correctly. The same thing occurred in Game 1 when Cora was rewarded for letting Crochet throw 117 pitches but, again, kudos to Boone because Schlittler did not have Crochet’s track record or reputation. This has been the foundation of my defense of leaving starting pitchers in when they are in control. These two outstanding performances stand in stark contrast to that fateful day in game 6 of the 2020 World Series when Kevin Cash yanked Blake Snell, who was in total control after 73 pitches and set in motion this premature removal of a starter who is cruising. There is real value in letting starters go deep. Every inning a good pitcher pitches is one less inning that the #13 pitcher on the staff embarrasses the team. Every pitcher isn’t going to be Nolan Ryan or Luis Tiant but there must be quite a few who can handle 220 innings with ease and since I do not believe there is any evidence that controlling innings helps protect pitcher’s arms I see no logic in pulling a top quality starter early and replacing him with a barely above replacement level middle reliever as long as he is getting hitters out.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
1 year ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

If the Yankees had a more reliable bullpen, I think Boone would have pulled him.

Fun-Hating DorkMember since 2019
1 year ago

Yeah, I mean, right now Boone trusts one guy (Bednar) and two other dudes somewhat (Cruz/Williams). Everyone else feels very risky right now.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago

This is also a big part of the discussion. Who is coming in to replace the starter and just how much rope does a starter get? The Red Sox put together a good bullpen this year. Weissert, Bernardino, Slaten and Wilson along with the pair of studs, Whitlock and Chapman, in the 8th and 9th, all were solid. Few teams can come close to that. The Reds, for instance, had no middle men with an ERA under 3.99. Cincinnati had five starters who were, at least, equal to their comparable rotation counterparts on most other teams but nobody pitched more than 169.2 innings before turning the games over to a bullpen that flamed out as often as it got outs. Even one more inning from each starter saves 162 innings that aren’t thrown by some lesser quality pitcher. My question is, if the starters are good and the bullpen isn’t why not let the starters go deeper?

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago

That is pure conjecture and ever since Cash broke the dam managers don’t care if they have to bring in Jordan Hicks when the computer says it’s time to pull the starter. It goes without saying that the better the pitcher is the longer the rope is. Top of the rotation guys, when cruising, are going to cut through the lineup even the third or fourth time through and are better than the “barely above replacement level middle reliever” that comes in early. This is a different argument than bringing in Chapman or Bednar late in the game. I had no argument with Cora in game 1 and Boone last night bringing in an outstanding closer but, even then, there wasn’t much question that Schlittler could have completed the game.

darren
1 year ago

Cora refused to hang the blame on his rookie starter. “We didn’t play defense. The popup drops, there’s a double, and there’s a walk, and they didn’t hit the ball hard, but they found holes. It just happened fast,” said the manager. Regarding Early, he added, “The kid did a good job. He threw the ball well, induced them to weak contact, but it didn’t happen for us tonight… just a few balls that went by, right? The Rosario and Volpe [balls], but he made pitches. And he didn’t get rattled.”

By the numbers, Cora overstated the case for Early, as the Yankees averaged a 94.7-mph exit velocity on the 12 balls they put into play against him, five of which were hard-hit — four of the six hits he allowed plus the Wells grounder. 

Is 5/12 balls in play (including 3 groundballs) being hard hit a bad percentage? I really am asking because it looked to me like he was pitching really well.

Fun-Hating DorkMember since 2019
1 year ago
Reply to  darren

In the Statcast era, the league average has hovered in the 40% percent range of all in-play balls for hard hit rate. So it’s average-ish. Which I would say is plus given the lineup he was facing.

darren
1 year ago

Eight pitches into Austin Wells’ at-bat, he swung and appeared to make contact with the glove of catcher Carlos Narváez. Home plate umpire Mark Ripperger ruled catchers interference, apparently forcing in a run, but the call was overturned upon review. 

This is an odd way to describe this event. It didn’t appear to me that he made contact live or on any of the replays. Why not say it was called and then correctly overturned on replay? Am I the only one who saw it that way?

Fun-Hating DorkMember since 2019
1 year ago

Game Score is a toy stat, but this is still impressive: Schlittler’s start was tied for 4th all time (with 84) in a postseason double-elimination game (including the single game WC games).

It’s behind or tied with Verlander wiping out the A’s in back-to-back years, Jake Arrieta’s 2015 WCG, Bumgarner in the 2014 WCG, Koufax in the ’65 WS, Chris Carpenter in the 2011 NLDS, and the reason that Jack Morris is in the Hall of Fame.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
1 year ago

It is next to impossible to be any more impressive than Schlittler was last night. I haven’t seen better fastball command than that over eight innings and he didn’t show any sign of losing it at any time. Simply great and made even more so by the situation.

crackbaldoMember since 2024
1 year ago

Two of those were against the last good (ever?) Pirates’ teams. The 2014 team in particular had a great offense – second in fWAR and 4th in wRC+.

Jon
1 year ago

Some random stats about the start that continue to blow my mind:

  • one runner got to 2nd base, nobody ever got to 3rd
  • pretty sure they said no 3-ball counts after the 2nd inning
  • 75 strikes thrown. I don’t know how to search for the most strikes thrown this year but I looked at a few pitchers and Skubal had one game with 75.
bosullivan
1 year ago

To give some context about Cam’s remarks about some comments crossing the line: Before the game, some Red Sox fan accounts on Twitter found his mom’s account, and their followers ended up harassing her until she set her account to private.