Trade Deadline Chat with Jay Jaffe, Kiley McDaniel, and Dan Szymborski!

3:02

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Good afternoon!

3:02

Anj: Does Mancini move in the next hour???  If so, for what?

3:03

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I believe no.

3:03

Anj: Do the Orioles sell anything, or stand pat?  Everyone pretty controllable, can afford to wait.

3:03

Avatar Dan Szymborski: They could theoretically trade Givens or Villar, though I haven’t heard anything.

3:03

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Though stuff tends to pop up super quickly.

3:04

Kiley McDaniel: Wrapping up a call with Eric to move around the prospects have gone already, will join shortly

3:04

Jerry B: Dubon replaces Panik as a starter = SFG is going for it, right?

3:04

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think the Giants did it more thinking towards next year.

3:04

Avatar Dan Szymborski: They didn’t give up relievers they absolutely eneded after all

3:05

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think the chance to get Dubon for a couple of relievers (or a reliever and a bad starter) were just too much to pass up

3:05

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think 2020 might be more interesting.

3:05

Bill: Kyle Tucker off the table for sure?

3:06

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nothing’s ever for sure, but it’s pretty much Thor or nothing when it comes to Tucker and the Astros probably wouldn’t give a lot more than Tucker in such a case.

3:06

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nobody else I can see being good enough to trade for Tucker

3:07

kumquatch: Man- is anyone in the Elias deal someone who you’d find in a good bullpen ?

3:07

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Guilbeau is kinda interesting

3:08

Avatar Dan Szymborski: His stuff was thin as a starter, but he’s been much better since being converted to bullpen. Problem is he’s barely touched AA.

3:08

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Mid 90s fastball I believe, slider

3:08

jkim: What’s a “fair” trade for Vazquez between the PIrates and the Dodgers?

Would Lux have to be included?

3:08

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Fair is a dirty word when it comes to closers.

3:08

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t think the Dodgers are willing to trade Lux.

3:09

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I *might* offer Ruiz to Pirates, say “that’s it, just Ruiz, take it or leave it” and walk away if the Pirates don’t grab it

3:09

Skore: Kiley! Tell me Dubon might be a starter!

3:09

Tom: What would the Cubs have to give to pry Merrifield from KC?

3:09

Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s not happening unless KC softens up from their demands.

3:09

Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Cubs don’t have a bunch of extra MLB guys just hanging around

3:09

Nathan: The Indians should have asked for extra compensation to make up for Puig’s impending suspension.

3:09

Avatar Dan Szymborski: He got into the fight after the acquisition!

3:10

Jason: Thoughts on the Braves trading Allard?  He didn’t seem to have a future in Atlanta

3:10

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m surprised they didn’t get more for him, even though his stock has dropped

3:11

Lynx: What team is Corey Dickerson on at 4:01pm and are you surprised there hasn’t been much chatter about him? As far as rental OFs go, he’s so consistent and an absolute professional hitter.

3:11

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Totally cheating since it happened like two minutes after you asked the question, but totally Phillies 🙂

3:12

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Dickerson, IMO, is WAY more interesting than Castellanos

3:13

Roger: Are the Tigers going to be able to make any trades?

3:13

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not sure. The Tigers tend to be gun shy making these types of trades and the meh package may make them back off and decide they rather just QO Castellanos

3:13

Avatar Dan Szymborski: In which case, Castellanos will accept unless he’s crazy

3:13

Giants Fan In Canada: What do you think about Pom & Black for Dubon?

3:14

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think Brewers a bit too generous.

3:14

Dee: By Baseruns, the Giants are much lousier than their record indicates. Is Zaidi really not gonna sell MadBum, Smith, etc.??

3:14

Avatar Dan Szymborski: You hae to remember, Zaidi doesn’t get just to do whatever he wants.

3:15

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t think the Giants are actually good, but there are a lot of people in the organization who aren’t keen on going full rebuild

3:15

Guille: depending on the prospects, I could do a ClintFrazier + 3 prospects for Robbie Ray. wouldn´t you?

3:15

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, if I’m Arizona I can! lol

3:16

Avatar Dan Szymborski: God, and I wondered if *I* was too generous!

3:16

Avatar Dan Szymborski: (I like Ray)

3:17

Avatar Dan Szymborski: BTW, it appears Gyorko is heading to the Dodgers. He was shoved out quicker than a Soviet marshal in the 1930s.

3:17

Zach: Do you think the Pirates are correct in saying “Lux or bust” for Vazquez? Is there any other (realistic) deal without Lux that would be advantage for the Pirates?

3:17

Avatar Dan Szymborski: It depends how happy they are not trading him at all.

3:17

Kiley McDaniel: I am here! We’re up to date and THE BOARD update will be pushed in moments

3:18

West Coast Randy: I understand the Padres’ decision to trade Franmil and I accept as a positive step for the org. But I’m still heartbroken. 🙁

3:18

Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes: Why didn’t anyone outbid the Mets on Stroman? Feel like the Rays should have jumped at the opportunity to turn two of their redundant prospects into Stroman given their 40-man crunch. (Really helpful article on that, by the way!)

3:19

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I haven’t talked to anyone in the org last couple of days, but I’d make an educated guess based on what I know that they really like SWR’s upside.

3:19

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Maybe Kiley can expand; he’s always burning up the phone lines!

3:20

HappyFunBall: Elias is … fine? Couldn’t the Nats have tried out Guilbeau straightaway as a LOOGY first?

3:20

Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Nats don’t like using their interestingish young relievers.

3:20

Kiley McDaniel: Gyorko trade a good example of August trade moved to July

3:20

Keith Law’s T30 Dog Breeds: The Pirates continue to ask the Dodgers for Ruiz and one of May/Lux, which is insane. How did that front office go downhill so quickly in their assessment of trade values? Between this ask, and their previous trades (Archer and Cole deals), they seem to be way out there.

3:21

Kiley McDaniel: To be fair, PIT has always had insane asks on their top assets under Huntington. The Archer deal was the one time they paid someone else’s big ask

3:21

Jim: How many more trades does Dipoto need to do to get his fix?

3:21

Kiley McDaniel: Jerry’s tweakin

3:21

5 Run Homer: What was the last prospect-for-prospect deal like this Gallen/Chisholm trade?

3:21

Kiley McDaniel: Asked Eric about this and we couldn’t think of one

3:21

Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Dodgers might do Ruiz/May for Vazquez if the Pirates are also fetching prime Javier Vazquez by time machine and including him too.

3:21

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Montero/Pineda?

3:22

Derek : For as much crap as the Mets are taking, the Stroman deal strikes me as part of an interesting, possibly underused strategy. Whether or not their expectation to contend next year is realistic, buying someone with an additional year of control while selling some expirings to gear up for next season is kind of a neat strategy for teams on the verge of contending (and also maybe too tight of a needle for the Mets to competently thread, but still…). It seems like the Reds are trying to do a similar thing.

3:23

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think it’s fine if they *just* acquire STroman. The issue that we were all mocking them for was their apparent simulatneous desire to dump Syndergaard and/or Wheels

3:24

Kiley McDaniel: Going back to Jazz/Gallen: the gap in prospect ranking between them can be made up in the preference for a type of asset (now MLB vs. higher risk/contact issues/may be 2 years away) and makeup perception (Jazz is regarded as a bit of a personality, Gallen is a high floor, polished feel/pitchability type). Eric and I aren’t editorializing about Jazz, we’ve heard it from enough teams that it’s part of the perception, if not reality.

3:24

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Also, Jazz Chisholm is an 80 name

3:24

RAndoM: Is the Chisholm for Gallen deal more a reflection of the Dbacks losing faith in Chisholm getting his strikeout issues under control, or a reflection of a belief that Gallen is for real?

3:25

Boomstick: Will the failure of Jerry Dipoto to pull off a trade by today’s deadline be the 7th sign of the apocalypse?

3:25

Avatar Dan Szymborski: What if ALL these trades are his conception and he’s now the puppetmaster? Did you consider that?

3:25

John: What do you all make of the Nats throwing 3 new relievers at the wall, hoping they stick. And what they gave up? Thx!

3:26

Avatar Dan Szymborski: The thing is, the Nats didn’t give up a ton. I think long-term, they need to do a much better job at looking at their interesting youngish arms than they’ve done, but they need the relief pitching right now.

3:26

Kiley McDaniel: rAndoM: I think Arizona is a more progressive club that prefers performance and now ability, may pull a power rebuild like MIL did while Miami, under the Jeter group, has consistently shot for the moon with the highest upside bats they can find (Monte Harrison, Lewis Brinson, Magneuris Sierra, etc.) and will probably need to wait a bit longer for contention

3:27

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Shane Greene to Braves

3:27

Dylan: Can you talk Padres fans off the ledge about losing Franmil Reyes? People are seriously upset.

3:28

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m a fan of Franmil Reyes. But he doesn’t bring a lot of defensive value to the table and it’s a position at which the Padres have a glut.

3:29

Avatar Dan Szymborski: The glut is affecting their ability to look at all these guys long-term in the outfield. Personally, I suspect that the front office is more willing to curtail Wil Myers playing time more than ownership wants them to.

3:29

Kiley McDaniel: If i’m gonna speculate on the price ATL paid for Greene

3:30

Kiley McDaniel: Kyle Muller would make some sense but may be a bit rich, Alex Jackson and Jasseel De La Cruz would also seem to be DET types

3:31

Kiley McDaniel: As covered in yesterday’s article, ATL has no 40-man issues and have preferred under this regime to move multiple lower prospects and hold onto the close to MLB higher ranked dudes

3:31

Drew: Are the brewers just going for quantity rather than quality? Maybe I was deluded into thinking they would actually trade for someone noteworthy.

3:31

Avatar Dan Szymborski: We still have a half-hour yet, but I *am* disappointed that the Brewers haven’t made a more significant starting pitcher add than Lyles.

3:32

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Lyles is interesting enough that it’s fine to have him at 5, but he shouldn’t be *the* rotation pickup.

3:32

Avatar Dan Szymborski: And yes, Pomeranz can technically start, but I wouldn’t be interested in that.

3:32

BM: I’m devastated about the the Dubon trade for the Brewers. Trading your 3rd best prospect for old trash isn’t awesome.

3:33

Kiley McDaniel: Dubon is a high probability, ready for MLB utility IF that has a chance to have a multi-year run as a 2 WAR type 50ish FV.  You have to be willing to move that guy for a playoff run

3:33

Chase: Is Tanner Roark going to the A’s an upgrade for his value, or does it take a hit?

3:33

Kiley McDaniel: And MIL has been able to invent that guy, i.e. Villar or Hernan Perez

3:34

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think it’s an upgrade for his value. No QO now.

3:34

David Wiers: Why haven’t my beloved A’s gotten more pitching? Is the injury riddled cadre of arms really going to be back in time to make a difference in the rotation?

3:34

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Roark is a solid pitcher. Whether you’re the REAL David or not.

3:34

Kel: Should dodgers start looking at Kela if Vasquez isn’t working?

3:35

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I would, but the Pirates, smelling Ruiz/Lux blood, may not want to downsell the Dodgers on a lower model.

3:35

Set : I heard you have speculation in this chat, Kiley

3:35

Kiley McDaniel: I can have more if you ask the right question

3:35

xxx: Is the Joe Panik era over?

3:35

Kiley McDaniel: don’t panik now, bro

3:36

Cooper: See any Royals deals happening today?

3:36

Jimbo: How is Dubon a future utility IF if he has a plus hit and avg field at a premium position?

3:36

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t think the Royals are realistic enough to be a good partner in anything but the most basic trades.

3:36

Avatar Dan Szymborski: But I could be biased.

3:36

Kiley McDaniel: that 35 game power means it’s below average offense with not much chance to beat the projection

3:36

Fantasy Handbook: Do you think

3:36

Kiley McDaniel: occasionally, only

3:37

kumquatch: Kiley, what’s the best and most likely return Leake could bring if Seattle paid down the whole salary?

3:38

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I like Rocky Gale because his name sounds like a 1950s crooner.

3:38

Kiley McDaniel: 1.5 years of free Mike Leake could maybe get you a 45 FV prospect?

3:39

Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Twins have acquired Marcos Diplan for cash, too

3:39

Jon: Any chance the Tigers get Waters?

3:39

Kiley McDaniel: I can’t see how

3:40

Avatar Dan Szymborski: John Ryan Murphy is a Braves. Pure depth pickup though.

3:40

J: With 30 mins to go, do you think the idea of switching from two deadlines to one was a success? However you define it

3:40

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think it’s a success in that you don’t have this August waiver weirdness and the uncertainty for players stretching a whole other month

3:40

Kiley McDaniel: it’s more entertaining this way

3:40

Kiley McDaniel: more challenging for the clubs

3:40

Guest: Yeah I have a question: how dare you

3:40

Kiley McDaniel: yeah now we’re cookin

3:40

Fantasy Handbook: Who do you think is going to get the majority in saves for Miami after the Romo trade? Anderson? Guerrero? Even Jose Quijada?

3:41

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think Nick Anderson has first dibs

3:41

Kiley McDaniel: some of you will be so mad in about 20 minutes that’s when this will go up a notch

3:41

mama szym and mama mcD: BOYS WE WERE TALKING AND WE NEED AN UPDATE ON THESE GRANDCHILDREN

3:42

Kiley McDaniel: i made some mexican style burgers so i’m eating well gramma

3:42

laxtonto: MAKE MORE TRADES!!!!

3:42

jim: Which side of the Chisholm-Gallen trade do you prefer?

3:42

Kiley McDaniel: Eric and I tend to lean upside and hitters and performers and up the middle types, so Chisholm is more up our alley

3:43

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Tayron has been generally used in a lot of low leverage situations lately — he can be erratic — and I suspect he’s not next in line for saves

3:43

Kiley McDaniel: Melancon to the Braves now as well

3:43

Kiley McDaniel: plus Greene and the dude from Coldplay so that’s something

3:43

Kiermaier’s Piercing Green Eyes: If GMs could trade themselves, would they ever?

3:44

Kiley McDaniel: Jerry would trade himself, then reacquire himself then trade himself in the same trade as the GMTBNL

3:44

James: What’s a mexican style burger?

3:44

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Passan has Braves picking up Melancon

3:45

Kiley McDaniel: I’m leaving tomorrow for a HS showcase so I had ground beef, cotija cheese, corn tortilla, onions, scallions, valentina hot sauce and avocado

3:45

Kiley McDaniel: so I put them all together

3:45

John: Murphy acquisition an indication that Alex Jackson is in play?

3:45

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Naw, I think it’s just depth

3:45

laxtonto: Did Texas just decide not to come into work today?

3:45

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think the Rangers feel they don’t *have* to trade anyone right now.

3:46

Kiley McDaniel: William Contreras goes on the 40-man next year as well and Flowers has a cheap option, so they have some 2020 catching depth in Atlanta

3:46

T: Does something like tucker davidson and alex jackson or demeritte or someone sound like the right return for greene?

3:46

Kiley McDaniel: all three of those would maybe work, but I think DET could shoot for a better headliner

3:46

keeks: Could the Mets move Bobby Bonilla’s contract in a last minute deal here?

3:46

Dayton Moore Talking Head: How much of Ian Kennedy’s contract should the Royals being willing to eat?  (not that they will)

3:47

Avatar Dan Szymborski: For prospects? Every last red cent. I’d rather use that money to buy prospects than pay Kennedy to close games on a lousy team.

3:47

Percy Miracles: Kylie, what are your thoughts on Stroman “haul” fro the Jays? Forget what the Indians got for Bauer, it seems like Texas got more for a rental reliever than what the Jays got

3:47

Kiley McDaniel: that’s false, Allard is a 40 FV at this point, SWR is a 45+ FV and Kay is a 45 FV

3:47

Kiley momma: Kiley now honey remembs to scrub behind ur ears cuz dirt accumulates there.   kthx

3:48

Kiley McDaniel: thanks mom ugghhh not in the chat

3:48

Steve: Can we trade Dan and Kiley for two other FanGraphs staffers please? Boom roasted just kidding you guys are great, thanks for chatting.

3:48

Fire Ken Tremendous: I’m here to offer hot takes

3:48

Kiley McDaniel: no that’s my role, guy

3:48

LFC Mike: Kiley….Please clear with Dan if that was a sandwich you ate with a corn tortilla. He is very sandwich sensitive…

3:49

Kiley McDaniel: I took the burger in chunks and ate it like a taco and a taco…is not a sandwich? I forget what my initial opinion was on this topic like 10 years ago

3:49

Shin Soo Choo Choo Train: why havent the rangers traded minor and pence? Pence’s renaissance feels like Kemp last year, and minor won’t have a MAJOR impact on the rangers ROS

3:49

Avatar Dan Szymborski: They don’t *have* to trade Minor right now. Given the prospects going around, they may feel underwhelmed

3:50

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Pence wasn’t going to be traded.

3:50

Shin Soo Choo Choo Train: if mexican style hamburgers were a soup would Dan eat them at a ballpark?

3:50

Avatar Dan Szymborski: First, Corey Dickerson going for slot money and a PTBNL should indicate there’s not much of a market for decentish corner outfield types.

3:50

Avatar Dan Szymborski: (See Castellanos not going at all at least so far)

3:50

Duderino: my anxiety levels are spiking, so much drama

3:50

Jimmy: Are the Yankees going to do nothing? Cashman must be going out of his mind!

3:51

Kiley McDaniel: 9 minutes to go and the chat has reached a fever pitch

3:51

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Second, Pence specifically signed with the Rangers on a minor league deal to go home. To simply swap him for what would just be a little cash when he’s happy and home isn’t really beneficial to the team

3:51

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hopefully not Fever Pitch the movie, in which case we’ll have to cancel the chat and delete the logs.

3:51

Jimmy: Is Clint Frazier going to be traded?

3:51

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I suspect at this point, no.

3:52

Avatar Dan Szymborski: BTW, David Robertson’s seasons is over. Elbow surgery.

3:52

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Possible TJ

3:52

Rowley from VA: Care to handicap where Wheeler pitches the rest of the year?  Mets, Astros, Rays, Yankees, Red Sox, Twins, Other?

3:52

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Mets over field, then Rays

3:53

Guest: Re:  recent podcast       Kiley why you hate cats???  What has a whole species ever done to you???

3:53

Derek : “Free Leake” sounds like an unpleasant health condition

3:54

Kiley McDaniel: dogs have just done so much more, Guest

3:54

Avatar Dan Szymborski:

 

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Tanner Roark told Cincinnati reporters he was sitting in an Arby’s parking lot eating a Beef n Cheddar and curly fries when he found out about the trade to the A’s.
31 Jul 2019
3:54

Shin Soo Choo Choo Train: tampa acquires SP Ray from AZ and rebrands as the montreal robbie rays

3:54

Los Los: Why do trades come out in bits and pieces? How do reporters first find out about one individual player before others?

3:54

Kiley McDaniel: uniquely today, the guys making the trades have like 10 minutes to make another trade instead of texting details to all the writers

3:54

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Baseball media world is small. *Everyone* knows someone in a front office, an agent, etc.

3:55

Tom: Hey Kiley, you had Woods Richardson as a ‘pick to click’ before the season. If he has a good month at High A now, think he’s a 50 on the offseason list?

3:55

Kiley McDaniel: definitely possible, maybe likely

3:55

Fantasy Handbook: Dan, what are your thoughts on a potential Colome deal for the White Sox? What would be the best they could receive in return?

3:56

Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think it would be someting similar to what Greene fetches.

3:56

Kiley McDaniel: nothing has happened in like 4 minutes this is so lame guys

3:56

Adam: will there be a lot of post-4:00 Darvish-esque announcements today?

3:56

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Maybe a 45 and a lotto pick? Or am I being too miserly?

3:56

Kiley McDaniel: I think so

3:56

Kiley McDaniel: I think 45 and a lotto pick is about right

3:56

Kiley McDaniel: south of Shane Greene’s value

3:57

Guest: Melancon trade was for Tristan Beck and Dan Winkler

3:57

Kiley McDaniel: Winkler is a lotto ticket with a shot to get outrighted at the end of the year. Beck is probably more 7th/8th inning guy but some chance to be a backend starter, depth prospect arm

3:57

Guest: Daniel Winkler and TRistan Beck for Melancon how do I feel?

3:57

Kiley McDaniel: you feel good if SF is paying it down a good bit

3:58

Duderino: Cleveland should sell tickets to watch Puig and Franmil lift weights

3:58

JaysAllDay: BIAGINI TO ASTROS

3:59

Kiley McDaniel: there’s your trade bomb

3:59

Chaise: Do you think the availability of data is contributing to the slow trade deadline/cold stove?  Is it that everyone has the same data and wants to hold tight?

3:59

Kiley McDaniel: definitely to some degree

3:59

filihok: Why am I sitting here with The Board! and Top 35 Prospects: Los Angeles Dodgers tabs open?

4:00

Kiley McDaniel: leave the board open, Eric is furiously updating is as deals come in

4:00

The Taco Burger Who Was a Taco: At the deadline, does Dipoto just set up a conference call will all 29 other GMs?

4:00

Kiley McDaniel: everyone is just yelling trade offers over each other on the same conference call

4:00

ben: At this point, are GMs texting, talking on phone, or both?

4:01

P: Does the Pomeranz move increase the likelihood of a Bumgarner move or are those more or less independent?

4:01

Kiley McDaniel: at the deadline it’s phone to close, then handoff to lieutenants to do admin end of it

4:01

Avatar Dan Szymborski: Independent I think.

4:01

Chris: How long after 1 will we have to wait to hear if a trade was submitted?

4:02

Kiley McDaniel: it sometimes takes 15 min to hear of the stuff that happened right at the deadline

4:02

Shin Soo Choo Choo Train: pour one out for waiver trades boys

4:03

Kiley McDaniel: Joey Wentz and Travis Demeritte for Shane Greene per twitter

4:03

Kiley McDaniel: Demeritte makes sense as a change of scenery guy that’s performing right now, rebuilding clubs can let him play and ATL won’t

4:04

Kiley McDaniel: I could see Muller being off limits and DET choosing between Alex Jackson and Wentz and taking the higher upside arm. Wentz is a solid average stuff athletic lefty, shot to be a #3/4 but the velo hasn’t been in pro ball where it was at the end of HS.

4:06

Kiley McDaniel: uhhh this reported Jesus Sanchez and Ryne Stanek to MIA deal for Trevor Richards and Nick Anderson has me a bit confused

4:06

Kevin: Are we gonna get a post on changes to team farm rankings from the board pre and post-trade deadline?

4:06

Kiley McDaniel: the farm rankings board is auto-updated as the list changes push to THE BOARD

4:08

Josh: It would be neat to see $ movers in team Board rankings in a pre/post trade deadline in a blog post w/ some comments.

4:09

Kiley McDaniel: oh that will be happening and also will be an feature on the farm board itself by opening day of 2020

4:09

Guest: Do you think the deadline will move to the 15th, for one reason or another eventually?

4:09

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Hey folks, I’m late, having written up both the Maldonado and Pomeranz barnburners in short order.

4:09

Kiley McDaniel: I think it probably should and GMs complaining when a key guy gets hurt tomorrow will maybe move it

4:10

L: Not a bad return for the Tigers from Greene then

4:10

Kiley McDaniel: I told a friend that asked weeks ago what Greene would fetch that it would be a headliner that’s not a 50 FV and an extra piece or two that’s around 35+ or 40

4:10

Kiley McDaniel: so about what was expected

4:10

Avatar Jay Jaffe: the 15th of July, or August? I think if it’s August, teams will be less likely to trade significant assets; you’re shortening the window from about 8-9 weeks to 6-7.

4:12

Kiley McDaniel: Aaron Sanchez, Mike Leake and Nick Castellanos all going well after 4:00!

4:12

Kiley McDaniel: Sanchez to HOU will be a big one to monitor and see if they can fix it

4:12

Kiley McDaniel: Leake and Gallen to ARI props up that rotation for 2019 and 2020

4:12

Kiley McDaniel: Castellanos to the Cubs is fine too?

4:13

Kiley McDong: Do you have an upgraded report on Demeritte?

4:14

Kiley McDaniel: big power, tools to play passable IF but hasn’t always done enough for it to work so he’s been mostly LF lately.  Could see him being above 100 wRC+ for stretches, ultimately more of a RH power bench bat. Has been passed over in the last 2 Rule 5 drafts

4:14

Avatar Jay Jaffe: whoa and i”ve been pulled back out to write up the Castellanos deal. Deadline chat, I never knew ye

4:15

Kiley McDaniel: but has also notably improved this year

4:15

Kiley McDaniel: FINE I’LL DO IT MYSELF

4:15

Kiley McDaniel: and GREINKE TO HOUSTON OFF THE TOP ROPE

4:19

Kiley McDaniel: So i just stepped out to see about all these hot trades coming off the presses

4:20

Kiley McDaniel: damn there’s more

4:20

Kiley McDaniel: lots of late heat

4:20

eyevee4: how do you feel about the return for greene? just right or a little light?

4:20

Kiley McDaniel: I’d say just a bit light, but about right

4:20

Guest: How bad does it look for Cashman if it ends up he did nothing?

4:20

Kiley McDaniel: I mean not great but it’s not like the staff doesn’t have talent on it

4:21

Yang 2020: Scooter to SFG?

4:22

Kiley McDaniel: rental making some money, reasonable gamble since they cleared Melancon’s longer-term cash

4:22

Ian: Oh man…did Houston just come in with the knockout punch for the American League?

4:23

Kiley McDaniel: adding Greinke, Sanchez, Biagini while NYY adds no one of consequence (although maybe tomorrow we’ll find out they made a trade at 3:59 today) has HOU well ahead of the rest of the AL

4:24

DW: Can someone make me less angry about my team not trading Wheeler today?

4:24

Kiley McDaniel: well you have way bigger problems than Wheeler, but not sure that’s helping

4:26

Kiley McDaniel: damn Corbin Martin (recent TJ), JB Bukauskas, Seth Beer, Josh Rojas to ARI for Greinke

4:26

Kiley McDaniel: that’s two heavy performance bats and two upside power arms, though Martin has TJ like a month ago, so he’s on the shelf for awhile

4:26

Kiley McDaniel: Arizona seems to be loading up to be contenders sooner than later

4:27

BenZ: I am sad that Greinke and his 120 wRC+/0.9 position player WAR are going to the AL.

4:27

Kiley McDaniel: that is true, but creative post-season pinch-hitting opportunities still? Maybe?

4:27

Guest: Soooo after your post on the tough 40 man situation in NYY, they only cleared one spot. Yankees gonna have a brutal Rule 5 Draft this year?

4:27

Kiley McDaniel: Whereas TB just sent off a bunch of dudes

4:28

Rivervillian: Am I crazy or was the Biagini-Sanchez return for the jays underwhelming

4:28

Kiley McDaniel: Neither had huge value, Fisher could be 5 years of an everyday OF

4:28

VB: What’s the story on Derek Fisher? Seems like not a lot to get back for Sanchez + Biagini

4:28

Kiley McDaniel: I guess that means it was fair?

4:28

troke: If acquiring Stroman and not trading Thor or Wheeler means the Mets are trying to compete, isn’t that totally inconsistent with not acquiring any relief help?

4:29

Kiley McDaniel: NYM isn’t rebuilding under Brodie, arguably not under Wilpon, so they’re kinda always trying to win even if it isn’t likely

4:29

Cat Latos: Who the heck is Adam Kolarek?

4:29

Kiley McDaniel: Really tall lefty that throws from a low slot

4:29

AP: Cost for Greinke was high, but flags fly forever.

4:30

Kiley McDaniel: HOU system is now Whitley, Tucker and that still from the end of Fresh Prince when the house was empty

4:30

Ben: Is there time after the season for teams to make trades before Rule V draft?

4:30

Kiley McDaniel: yeah the 40-man rosters don’t lock until late November

4:30

Big Fan: Feels like the Astros won the deadline, and Braves came in second.  Agree?

4:31

Kiley McDaniel: Sure? Arizona seems to have also been a winner but I may need to step back from sniffing the uncut deadline and get some perspective

4:31

Kiley McDaniel: and btw I’ll be at a HS showcase tomorrow morning so that’ll probably do it

4:31

Dennis: Do u think Wheeler is happy about not getting traded?

4:31

Kiley McDaniel: well now he probably gets a QO, so probably mixed?

4:32

Will: How on earth did neither the Yankees or Red Sox trade for a pitcher?

4:34

Kiley McDaniel: NYY got Alfredo Garcia but yeah that was a little surprising

4:34

Dan: ARI putting on a clinic on how to rebuild on the fly.  Dayton Moore should take a lesson here.

4:35

Kiley McDaniel: I’ve heard this sort of thing referred to as the Brewers power rebuild and I’m kinda surprised more teams don’t do it? CHW, SD, KC and MIA are doing the more traditional-type longer rebuild of name-brand prospects which is also fine and can work, but I’d prefer what ARI is doing and MIL did

4:37

James: How many deals will leak out after the deadline?

4:37

Kiley McDaniel: haha this question was asked at 3:56

4:38

Kiley McDaniel: okay well there’s plenty of writeups to do and rankings to update and I have to drive a few hours to be at East Coast Pro tomorrow

4:40

Trade Deadline : TRADE. DEADLINE.

4:40

Kiley McDaniel: ah there it is





Meg is the managing editor of FanGraphs and the co-host of Effectively Wild. Prior to joining FanGraphs, her work appeared at Baseball Prospectus, Lookout Landing, and Just A Bit Outside. You can follow her on twitter @megrowler.

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jimbo
4 years ago

Chris Marting underlying metrics much better than Greene – does he get a shot at closing. And is Jackson out?

cartermember
4 years ago
Reply to  jimbo

Greene will certainly be the closer from day 1