2017 World Series Game 5 Live Blog
| 5:07 |
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Who will win tonight’s game?
Astros (24.5% | 74 votes)
Dodgers (64.9% | 196 votes)
I can’t decide! (10.5% | 32 votes)
Total Votes: 302
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| 5:07 |
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In your opinion, which game has been the best so far?
Game 1 (5.8% | 17 votes)
Game 2 (81.0% | 236 votes)
Game 3 (5.1% | 15 votes)
Game 4 (4.1% | 12 votes)
I can’t decide! (3.7% | 11 votes)
Total Votes: 291
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| 5:09 |
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Which game will end up with the highest avg. SP Game Score v. 2.0 (GSv2)?
Current leader Game 4 – 69.8 (Morton 76.8, Wood 62.8) (32.7% | 81 votes)
Tonight (Kershaw-Keuchel) (42.5% | 105 votes)
Game 6 (Verlander-TBD/Hill) (12.5% | 31 votes)
Game 7 (TBD-TBD) (1.6% | 4 votes)
I can’t decide! (10.5% | 26 votes)
Total Votes: 247
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| 7:37 |
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How many minutes after 8 pm will tonight’s game start?
Zero – it’ll start right on time! (4.8% | 9 votes)
1-5 minutes late (9.2% | 17 votes)
6-10 minutes late (11.4% | 21 votes)
11-15 minutes late (21.1% | 39 votes)
16+ minutes late (53.2% | 98 votes)
Total Votes: 184
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| 8:02 |
: Hi everybody!
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| 8:03 |
: Looking forward to a great game. Looks like most of you think the Dodgers win tonight.
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| 8:03 |
: I said a boom-chicka-boom
I said a boom chicka-boom I said a boom, Clayton Kershaw and Dallas Keuchel make for an interesting starting pitcher matchup especially when it’s in the World Series and especially even more when it’s in the World Series and the series is tied at 2-2, boom |
| 8:03 |
: If Carson Cistulli were Prince Hamlet in the eponymous play, which state of being would he choose?
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| 8:03 |
: To quote Krusty the Clown, I wouldn’t touch that Cistulli question with a 10-foot clown pole. But please, feel free to speculate.
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| 8:04 |
: I will say that I never actually read Hamlet. When we were assigned it in class, my friends and I just watched the movie. But being dumb boys, we waited until the last second, and had to drive two towns over because all the girls in our class had beaten us to the punch and rented out the copies in our town.
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| 8:04 |
: The lesson: boys are dumb.
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| 8:04 |
: Dallas Keuchel -> A Shellack Duel
Clayton Kershaw -> Whacks Ornately Jose Altuve -> Jealous Vet Cody Bellinger -> Boldly Generic Carlos Correa -> Cloaca Errors Cory Seager – Crease Orgy |
| 8:05 |
: Unfortunately, Abdul, you forgot the E in Corey. Try again!
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| 8:05 |
: You should read it, it is legit great
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| 8:06 |
: I love reading, but I couldn’t stand Shakespeare. My wife loved him though, so on average, my marriage has read TONS of Shakespeare.
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| 8:06 |
: the last poll is easy. 1st pitch is scheduled for 8:20.
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| 8:06 |
: It is?
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| 8:06 |
: Where do you see that?
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| 8:06 |
: Hi from Germany!
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| 8:06 |
: I still don’t know who I’m rooting for in this series
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| 8:07 |
: I don’t either!!!! I feel like I’m rooting more for the Dodgers, but I still like the Astros.
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| 8:07 |
: Hi! I love you.
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| 8:07 |
: I love you too, Tommy.
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| 8:07 |
: Mood from Houston: [several curse words] Giles
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| 8:07 |
: Ha.
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| 8:08 |
: Oh look, someone who isn’t Beyonce is performing the national anthem. Why the hell didn’t Beyonce sing the anthem at one of these Houston games? Unreal. I will NOT get over this.
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| 8:09 |
: came out on the 26th. MLB Communications?
Verified account @MLB_PR Follow Follow @MLB_PR More |
| 8:09 |
: Huh. Well, it just says 8 pm on MLBs site, and in most media. Baseball always does this. I can’t stand the bait and switch.
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| 8:10 |
: I loathe the NFL, but when it comes for the Super Bowl, they always make sure every media outlet knows that kickoff is scheduled for 8:26. Or whatever the specific time is.
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| 8:10 |
: Your opinion on slick balls? (Phrasing)
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| 8:10 |
: I don’t care. This hasn’t been the scoringest or non-scoringest World Series of all-time. As long as the balls are the same for both teams, I couldn’t care less.
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| 8:11 |
: Having said that, if you want to learn more about the process, you should read Stephanie Springer’s piece from Wednesday at THT. She had a really great breakdown.
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| 8:11 |
: The answer has a lot to do with the Venn diagram of Beyonce fans in Texas and Houston Astros fans in Texas
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| 8:11 |
: A) No one is stupid enough to boo Beyonce.
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| 8:13 |
: B) The Astros are not in charge of pregame ceremonies. MLB steps in and runs the whole show. Team reps are mere lliasons at this point. And in the past, MLB has always tried to find famous local singers/celebrities to take part in these festivities. And aside from the two Bush’s, both of whom are on field right now, Houston doesn’t have a more famous celebrity than Beyonce.
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| 8:13 |
: W with a strike. So casual.
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| 8:13 |
: Beyonce’s gotta be too big a name to do the national anthem, right?
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| 8:14 |
: If you’re implying that MLB is too cheap to pay her what she would want for it, then yes. But MLB should be smart enough to know how much free publicity they’d get out of the deal.
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| 8:14 |
: which Hamlet movie?
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| 8:14 |
: Uh, the Mel Gibson one.
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| 8:14 |
: What will John Smoltz preach to us about tonight? Cant wait to be lectured for 4-5 innings
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| 8:15 |
: LOL
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| 8:15 |
: Did anyone listen to the Bill Simmons-Jack-O pod where Jack-O claimed Smoltz was outright rooting for the Astros? I found that amusing.
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| 8:15 |
: I just realized this isn’t Sporer
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| 8:15 |
: Go take a lap.
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| 8:15 |
: did Smoltz master the art of talking while his mouth is delayed?
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| 8:15 |
: I’m….not sure. Did he?
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| 8:16 |
: No one’s going to boo Beyonce but I think she had a better chance of singing it in LA than she does in Houston
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| 8:16 |
: Beyonce’s a Houston native. I’d be surprised if that was the case.
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| 8:16 |
: MLB.TV stream is exactly 25 seconds behind cable TV feed
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| 8:17 |
: Good to know. And, I love you all that are watching on MLB.tv, but I’m not going to wait 25 seconds to react to stuff. Sorry. 🙂
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| 8:17 |
: Someone somewhere is stupid enough to boo Beyonce. Someone somewhere would boo Mother Teresa.
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| 8:17 |
: Maybe individually. Not in a giant crowd where people are going to yell at them.
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| 8:17 |
: GHW Bush is no Texan
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| 8:17 |
: Right, right. Sorry.
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| 8:17 |
: Astros fans are applauding the Bushes for not buying their team.
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| 8:17 |
: So cool to see both Bush’s
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| 8:17 |
: W with the heel turn on the Rangers
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| 8:18 |
: I mean, sort of, yeah. But I liked seeing him out there anyway.
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| 8:18 |
: No I meant you don’t typically see the mega mega stars do the national anthem (ie it’s not worth their time)
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| 8:18 |
: That’s because MLB doesn’t pay enough. Generally speaking, MLB can’t get out of their own way.
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| 8:18 |
: Who closes for Houston?
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| 8:18 |
: Whoa, a baseball question? I’ll say Devenski.
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| 8:19 |
: How are you watching the game, Paul?
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| 8:19 |
: In my living room on my large television that is connected to Verizon FIOS.
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| 8:19 |
: Who was the last person to submit their article for the annual this year?
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| 8:20 |
: Almost no one has submitted. But the answer will almost certainly be Cameron or Cistulli.
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| 8:20 |
: Giancarlo for Beyonce, straight up
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| 8:20 |
: I’ll take Beyonce.
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| 8:20 |
: I would guess it’s especially hard to get mega stars for games 5 through 7 since they aren’t guaranteed to happen
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| 8:21 |
: Right. The night to have her sing was last night.
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| 8:21 |
: What time does this game end? I say 12:08 est
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| 8:21 |
: Bold. I’ll say it goes later than that.
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| 8:21 |
: Paul, are you by yourself tonight for the whole game?
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| 8:21 |
: I mean, my family is home, but I don’t think they’re going to be doing any live blogging.
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| 8:21 |
: Yes, I’m flying solo.
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| 8:22 |
: And we’re off!
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| 8:22 |
: I’m not going to miss the train sounds when we go back to LA let me tell you that
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| 8:22 |
: Agreed. The train was a stupid gimmick. The only thing cool about this ballpark was Tal’s Hill, and they got rid of it because somehow they weren’t grinding enough money out of these fans.
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| 8:23 |
: I thought the annual wasn’t a thing this year?
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| 8:23 |
: Oh, it’s a thing. We’re doing it online, and it will publish in early January.
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| 8:23 |
: We’re just not publishing a printed book.
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| 8:23 |
: Beyonce is cool but your obsession with this seems a bit far. I don’t think fans give a crap who sings the anthem, to be honest, even if it’s someone very famous.
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| 8:24 |
: People that are tuning in for the BASEBALL don’t care. But there’s a whole 95% of the country who is either not tuning in or tuning in for the spectacle. THOSE are the people baseball both needs to reach and consistently fails to reach. The NFL and NBA do a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better job of this.
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| 8:24 |
: Astros are approximately 32-0 when Clay Walker sings the anthem. Look for a Kershaw implosion.
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| 8:24 |
: whoa, last year was released mid November. Are they cutting it close or was the date pushed back this year?
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| 8:25 |
: We pushed it back this year.
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| 8:25 |
: Paul … reply with “X” the moment the ball crosses the plate so we know how far ahead / behind us you are!
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| 8:25 |
: Ok, right now it’s 2-2 to Seager.
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| 8:25 |
: x
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| 8:26 |
: I think the train with the home runs is cool but just randomly tooting the horn is silly
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| 8:26 |
: Yes, ok, that’s fair.
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| 8:26 |
: The Annual is free!
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| 8:26 |
: Yes, free this year!
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| 8:26 |
: And with helpful links, instead of making you type in all the hyperlinks on your own!
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| 8:27 |
: Giancarlo for Solange, straight up
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| 8:27 |
: Tough. Solange is probably on a better contract though, so I’ll take her.
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| 8:27 |
: In other words, not having Beyonce is an “missed opportunity” to do what? Not like it would increase baseball’s profile meaningfully.
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| 8:28 |
: To draw in casual fans for a few innings, and see if they end up liking what they see.
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| 8:28 |
: This is a battle between the two worst beards in MLB.
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| 8:28 |
: It really is. Neither Turner nor Keuchel has an excuse.
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| 8:29 |
: They said the other night that Turner is looking forward to shaving after the series, so his is at least partly superstitous.
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| 8:29 |
: So I’ll say his is less worse.
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| 8:29 |
: Damn I’m on cable and you’re a good second ahead of me too
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| 8:29 |
: Sorry Joe!
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| 8:29 |
: Man I read that when you published it last month. Stuff just doesn’t stay in my head the way it used to.
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| 8:29 |
: I hear you.
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| 8:29 |
: Kershaw K’s tonight?
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| 8:29 |
: I’ll say 8.
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| 8:30 |
: solange is a German conjunction
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| 8:30 |
: for what?
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| 8:30 |
: What’s your ideal dugout food item?
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| 8:30 |
: Gum, probably. I never liked seeds. Though I’ve reached the age where chewing gum now gives me a headache. Pro tip – Don’t get old
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| 8:31 |
: Keuchel has a well trimmed beard. Turner just looks like a Dwarf from Lord of the Rings
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| 8:31 |
: Playoff beards are important.
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| 8:31 |
: They’re important in hockey. I don’t think the same is true of baseball.
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| 8:31 |
: Keuchel isn’t having the best first inning.
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| 8:33 |
: What is the jotcast delay? Nearly instant?
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| 8:33 |
: delay in posting?
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| 8:33 |
: no i’m just slow. you guys are posting way too fast for me tonight. 🙂
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| 8:33 |
: it means so long
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| 8:33 |
: right, makes sense (re: Solange)
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| 8:33 |
: So yesterday Dave C was defending Ken Giles closing (based on reg season stats). Today he’s no longer closing – was one outing really the breaking point?
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| 8:34 |
: Well, he had allowed runs in 5 of his 6 postseason appearances going into last night.
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| 8:34 |
: I’d say last night was more the last straw.
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| 8:34 |
: Meanwhile, nice pitch from Keuchel there to strike out Bellinger.
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| 8:34 |
: Do any players eat peanuts in the dugout? I’m not a fan of gum nor seeds (and obviously tobacco is disgusting)
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| 8:34 |
: I’ve never seen peanuts, no. But I haven’t been in every team’s dugout, obviously.
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| 8:35 |
: Big hit for Forsythe!
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| 8:35 |
: Marwin nooooooo
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| 8:35 |
: Players should eat deep dish pizza in the dugout
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| 8:35 |
: at first I read that you’d never eaten peanuts, and I was like, that can’t be right
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| 8:35 |
: Ha, no, I love peanuts.
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| 8:36 |
: As for that Marwin error, I don’t think it cost Houston anything. The runner was being waived home as the ball got to Marwin.
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| 8:36 |
: Maybe Marwin has a play at the plate, but I doubt it.
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| 8:36 |
: What are you gonna be for Halloween?
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| 8:36 |
: I told my son I’d go as “tired and overworked father.” He didn’t think that was very funny.
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| 8:36 |
: My dugout snack of choice is an entire raw potato. Just munch it like a hand-fruit.
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| 8:37 |
: Morel ike Mar-lose, amirite?
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| 8:37 |
: PAUL STOP CHOOSING COMMENTS ABOUT PEANUTS AND RECORDING ARTISTS
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| 8:37 |
: What about comments that are complaints? 🙂
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| 8:37 |
: wait, is Buck saying Key-kul?
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| 8:37 |
: WOW WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT
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| 8:38 |
: That was amazing.
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| 8:38 |
: He beat it too, I think.
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| 8:38 |
: Safe
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| 8:38 |
: Pretty sure we pulled that same play off in like sixth grade
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| 8:38 |
: I was just going to say – that looked like when we played pickle with my son’s team for our last fall practice last Tuesday.
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| 8:38 |
: Holy shit what a slide by Logan — They really blew it with that throw wow
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| 8:38 |
: E3?
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| 8:39 |
: E3 for sure.
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| 8:39 |
: Have you ever done the Hidden Ball Trick?
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| 8:39 |
: I mean, I tricked the kids on our team with it during pickle. But not when I played as a kid, no.
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| 8:39 |
: awful slide by the way.
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| 8:39 |
: He was just going on instinct there. But yeah, could have been better.
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| 8:40 |
: Safe on review.
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| 8:40 |
: Surprised Forsythe didn’t sprain hid ankle
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| 8:40 |
: That was almost a scary play for Forsythe’s knee/ankle
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| 8:40 |
: In 2017, the ability to slide into a bag and not come off is rarer than 20 HR power
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| 8:40 |
: wow absolute worst case scenario for Houston. runner for LA was stupid though- while yes he got in safe- he should have given him self up to make sure that the 3rd run had scored. Could easily have cost them a run…..
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| 8:40 |
: Agreed, but again, that happened really fast.
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| 8:40 |
: Love these chats, thanks paul
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| 8:40 |
: Of course.
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| 8:41 |
: I just got back from that lap you had me run. Did the game start yet?
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| 8:41 |
: Yup! Dodgers scored 3 runs.
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| 8:41 |
: Hernandez’s job on that play is not to hesitate if he had not hesitated he would have scored before Forsythe was out no matter what
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| 8:42 |
: I think he waited a beat too long. He didn’t seem to run until Altuve dove for the ball, when I think he probably should have been running as soon as Gurriel threw it to second.
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| 8:42 |
: But, it all worked out.
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| 8:42 |
: should do a poll- will Houston score 2 or fewer runs tonight(meaning is the game already over?)
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| 8:42 |
: But that poll would be depressing.
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| 8:42 |
: By Kershaw standards, if he blows this lead it counts as an implosion
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| 8:43 |
: Oh yeah. If Kershaw gives back this lead people will say he choked, no doubt about it.
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| 8:43 |
: Chatting beverage of choice?
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| 8:43 |
: I have a bottle of water and a can of Coors Light. Some would say I have both a bottle and can of water. But those people are JERKS.
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| 8:43 |
: Marwin doesn’t bobble the ball, no runner at third… that small mistake ended up costing them
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| 8:43 |
: Yup, you’re right. Great point.
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| 8:44 |
: Watching SNF as well. What would happen first: detroit-pittsburgh World Series or Houston-LA Super Bowl?
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| 8:44 |
: DET-PIT World Series for sure.
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| 8:44 |
: Wait why is Kike Hernadez batting 4th
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| 8:44 |
: Lefty on the mound.
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| 8:44 |
: It’s a bad idea to spot Kershaw three runs, right?
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| 8:44 |
: only be depressing for the Astros fans
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| 8:45 |
: Well, and for me, since I have to stick around for the whole game. 🙂
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| 8:45 |
: Kershaw puts up 9 0’s. You heard it here first.
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| 8:45 |
: Halloween Candy of choice?
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| 8:45 |
: I prefer to give out Kit Kats, Twix and Starburst.
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| 8:45 |
: Is the World Series trophy the best of all major American sports trophies?
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| 8:46 |
: No, the Stanley Cup is very clearly the best trophy, because you can drink out of it.
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| 8:46 |
: The World Series trophy is cool, but you can’t drink out of it, it’s heavy as balls, and you can stab yourself with it.
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| 8:46 |
: When need to send Eno your way with real beer
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| 8:46 |
: Please no. All of Eno’s beer is heavy and bitter. No thanks.
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| 8:46 |
: If you were a superhero, who (if anyone) would you tell?
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| 8:47 |
: Just my kids. They’re the only ones who would be impressed.
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| 8:47 |
: Its okay to enjoy both craft beer and regular beer. Craft beer fans can be way too snobby
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| 8:47 |
: Yup.
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| 8:47 |
: Texans and Rams are pretty solid this year!
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| 8:47 |
: I do like DeShaun (Deshaun?) Watson.
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| 8:48 |
: Really? Houston/LA both have really young QBs, whereas the Tigers are at the beginning of an extensive rebuild
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| 8:48 |
: Yeah but the Rams are owned by Kroenke so they don’t deserve to win jack.
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| 8:48 |
: 2018 NL Cy: a) Kershaw, Scherzer, or Strasburg b) field
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| 8:48 |
: A
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| 8:48 |
: Candy corn: for or against?
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| 8:49 |
: Indifferent. For, if you’re forcing me to vote.
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| 8:49 |
: You do Halloween candy properly
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| 8:49 |
: Thanks.
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| 8:49 |
: the glass college football is the best
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| 8:49 |
: No way. I guarantee that that trophy gets broken often by idiots trying to throw it around like a regular ball.
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| 8:50 |
: I think really the NBA trophy stands out as sucking the other three are pretty great
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| 8:50 |
: The one benefit of the NBA trophy is you can hold it with one hand, which is pretty baller.
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| 8:50 |
: Sounds like you’re the good house in the neighborhood. Only Reese’s would make it A+
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| 8:51 |
: We do have some Reeses, but I’ve found a lot of kids ask about non-peanut candy and I would rather not have to be yelled at so I try to eat those ahead of time.
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| 8:51 |
: Stanley Cup is far and away the best, guys even get to do whatever they want wih
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| 8:51 |
: Yup that’s an awesome tradition.
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| 8:51 |
: Counterpoint: You can stab other people with it.
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| 8:51 |
: That’d be a great plot point for a baseball novel.
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| 8:51 |
: The cover would just be the trophy dripping with blood…maybe an ear too. Diabolical.
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| 8:52 |
: Assuming LA goes up 3-2 going home. For Houston fans…got Verlander going game 6 and game 7 is a wildcard
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| 8:52 |
: Yes.
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| 8:52 |
: What would your superpower be?
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| 8:52 |
: Oh, flight. Easy.
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| 8:52 |
: No question.
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| 8:52 |
: Imagine not having to worry about the commute?
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| 8:52 |
: Ah, so cool.
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| 8:52 |
: Have a stupid early plane to catch tomorrow I’d appreciate it the Astros could just roll over and die early so I can go to bed.
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| 8:53 |
: Geesh, someone’s salty!
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| 8:53 |
: Can they say “damn” on national TV?
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| 8:53 |
: Apparently?
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| 8:53 |
: What sort of commute do you have? You don’t work from home?
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| 8:53 |
: Yeah I mean like from kid activity to kid activity to grocery store, that sort of thing.
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| 8:54 |
: People who choose flight over teleportation <<<<<
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| 8:54 |
: Teleportation seems like a matter for science to solve. I don’t think of it as a superpower, I think of it as an eventuality.
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| 8:54 |
: I worked at Pizza Hut in the ‘90s, and that heat bag looks the same as what we had then. They’re really pressing for reasons to eat their pizza.
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| 8:55 |
: Sad!
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| 8:55 |
: How many innings for Keuchel?
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| 8:55 |
: 5.2
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| 8:55 |
: you can stab anyone with anything
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| 8:55 |
: That’s the spirit!
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| 8:55 |
: Does Reeses even have any real peanuts in it though?
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| 8:55 |
: Who am I, a food scientist?
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| 8:55 |
: I like to give out triscuits and wheatabix for Halloween
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| 8:55 |
: You monster!
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| 8:55 |
: Amen on the Kroenke stance, he’s worse than the candy corn of Halloween
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| 8:56 |
: When I moved to Denver, I asked the people in my grad school which teams were the best to intern with. Everyone said they didn’t know who the best was, but that Kroenke – who didn’t pay interns but expected them to work 40+ hours per week – was the worst.
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| 8:57 |
: nfl trophy is garbage
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| 8:57 |
: the NFL trophy is the worst by far!
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| 8:57 |
: Yeah the Lombardi has that same one handed thing going on the NFL was also smart enough to immediately name their trophy after someone great instead of trying to do it after the fact like MLB does with all of their Awards
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| 8:57 |
: Yeah, I think the NBA trophy is slightly better than NFL, but eh.
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| 8:57 |
: Who is your pick to be the next Chris Taylor? As in, a failed prospect/ current role player who becomes a star?
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| 8:57 |
: Yeesh, I don’t know. Profar?
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| 8:57 |
: I’d love for it to be Profar.
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| 8:58 |
: I have English friends who hate Kroenke for screwing up their football, which I find amusing. He screwed up our football too!
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| 8:58 |
: Spiders as Halloween decorations: Yes or No?
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| 8:59 |
: I don’t put up any Halloween decorations other than pumpkins. Anyone who does more is trying too hard.
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| 8:59 |
: World Cup—–best trophy
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| 8:59 |
: Nope, still Stanley Cup.
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| 8:59 |
: Profar could be the next Tim Beckham, more like
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| 8:59 |
: I’ll take it.
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| 9:00 |
: Speaking of trophies named after people, how long have their been the Mariano Rivera Award and whatever the other one is? I’d missed it until it was mentioned about Jansen.
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| 9:00 |
: I think this is the second year?
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| 9:00 |
: I must be going crazy because I’ve now heard Buck pronounce the first syllable of Keuchel as key, kie, and koy
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| 9:00 |
: It’s almost like Joe Buck only got his job because he has a famous daddy.
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| 9:00 |
: When does fangraphs have these sorts of chats every night of baseball season?
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| 9:00 |
: Just in the postseason.
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| 9:00 |
: Do you even speak baseball? hahaha! This chat is way down the rabbit hole. Oh look, a great play to end the inning!
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| 9:00 |
: Sorry, my bad, my bad.
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| 9:01 |
: Dogs or cats?
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| 9:01 |
: Neither, but also dogs.
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| 9:01 |
: screw Alexa
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| 9:01 |
: Screw all of those things.
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| 9:01 |
: Why is Barnes starting over one of the best catchers in baseball?
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| 9:01 |
: Barnes is better than Grandal, I think.
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| 9:02 |
: If Joey Votto does what he did this year in 2018 is he a HOFer?
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| 9:02 |
: He’ll be pretty close, yeah.
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| 9:02 |
: The World Cup trophy always reminds me of a picture in my old high school bio book showing the anatomy of a testicle.
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| 9:02 |
: Homer backing back into the bushes GIF
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| 9:02 |
: What about FanGraphs after dark?
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| 9:02 |
: Well that’s only once a week.
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| 9:02 |
: How many on this chat?
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| 9:02 |
: 370 right now.
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| 9:02 |
: Rivera Hoffman is in third year I think (didn’t actually google though)
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| 9:03 |
: Paul, I volunteer to do one day a month for these chats….bcause these should exist every night!
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| 9:03 |
: It’s a nice thought, but it’s tough to ask our writers to do them at night all the time. I only started the After Dark chats because we had a noon chat for every day of the week, and I wanted to have a chat.
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| 9:04 |
: “Great play?” That Bregman play would be like 88th on Manny Machado’s “top 100 plays of 2017”
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| 9:04 |
: Tough crowd.
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| 9:04 |
: WHat is this curveball nonsense joe buck is spewing
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| 9:04 |
: The best part of doing these live blogs is I never have to pay attention to what they’re saying.
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| 9:05 |
: does carson watch baseball?
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| 9:05 |
: I can confirm that I have seen Carson watch baseball.
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| 9:05 |
: Votto is a HOF already IMO… two more stellar years and he is a BBWA lock
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| 9:05 |
: He’s a 1B with 53.4 WAR.
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| 9:05 |
: That’s gotta be on the low end.
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| 9:06 |
: He’s got a MVP but almost no playoff cred.
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| 9:06 |
: The one time he got there his team choked away a 2-0 lead.
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| 9:06 |
: do you have a different day job?
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| 9:06 |
: Just being with my kids.
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| 9:06 |
: Do you like chats?
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| 9:06 |
: I do!
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| 9:07 |
: What current early-30s players are likeliest to have a David Ortiz-style decline (i.e., not much)? Votto I assume is one?
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| 9:07 |
: Not sure Votto’s knee will allow for that.
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| 9:07 |
: What would Kershaw need to do going forward to takenthe title of greatest pitcher of all time?
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| 9:07 |
: Keep this up for another decade.
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| 9:08 |
: How many signatures would it take on a petition to get Carson to do a regular chat?
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| 9:08 |
: If you guys had more Carson, the mystique of Carson would die.
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| 9:08 |
: Is this game as over as it feels?
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| 9:08 |
: I don’t think so.
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| 9:08 |
: Metal bats in the next CBA? It’s about time…
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| 9:08 |
: I sure hope not. I hate the ping.
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| 9:08 |
: Kershaw the easy WS MVP if he keeps this up tonight and Dodgers win series, right?
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| 9:09 |
: Probably.
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| 9:09 |
: This series has me giddy. Back and forth, Dodgers staring down the barrel of a 3-1 deficit, now they have the best pitcher in the world fighting to get a game away from immortality. More twists and turns to come.
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| 9:09 |
: How hard is it for voters to completely discount postseason success when voting for something like Manager of the Year? Will there be any kind of subconscious discounting of Black/Lovullo for not getting far? Or was Roberts a lock anyways?
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| 9:10 |
: Those awards are voted on before the postseason starts.
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| 9:10 |
: Surprised Gurriel had to flip that. He’s pretty lazy.
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| 9:10 |
: Votto:
JAWS First Base (20th): 54.8 career WAR / 45.6 7yr-peak WAR / 50.2 JAWS Average HOF 1B (out of 20): 66.4 career WAR / 42.7 7yr-peak WAR / 54.6 JAWS |
| 9:10 |
: Right, and I’d argue that you need to be WELL above the average JAWS to actually get elected at this stage.
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| 9:10 |
: Especially at first base.
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| 9:11 |
: btw why was FG hating on CC’s HOF chances in these chats
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| 9:11 |
: I don’t know. I love CC.
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| 9:11 |
: What was your major?
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| 9:11 |
: Marketing undergrad, sports management grad.
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| 9:11 |
: Do you like cats?
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| 9:11 |
: No I hate cats.
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| 9:11 |
: Any guesses on what the Red Sox do this offeseason
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| 9:11 |
: Hosmer. Sigh.
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| 9:11 |
: Who would you prefer to be hired as manager of Boston?
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| 9:12 |
: They got it right at the time. But I’d have leaned toward Girardi over Cora.
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| 9:12 |
: Kershaw dropping down. LET ENO KNOW. THIS IS NOT AN ALERT.
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| 9:12 |
: You let Eno know! I’m not your messenger service!
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| 9:12 |
: Maybe FG should just have an open chat for during games for the reg season. Have some of the regulars moderate. Plus have the writers pop in whenever they feel like it.
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| 9:13 |
: I think asking writers to moderate would be the same as asking them to chat, to be honest.
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| 9:13 |
: Will votto ever play for a good team?
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| 9:13 |
: Yes.
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| 9:13 |
: Also, re. Votto, wasn’t he there when Cueto got shaken by the Pit fans?
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| 9:13 |
: Yes, that too.
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| 9:13 |
: Who is the greatest pitcher of all time? I.e. to whom are we comparing Kershaw?
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| 9:14 |
: Either Pedro (peak) or Maddux (longevity) for me.
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| 9:14 |
: I’m thinking Goldy as a guy who stays good forever.
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| 9:14 |
: Yeah that’s a good choice.
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| 9:14 |
: The chat seems to think the game is over.
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| 9:14 |
: I don’t, but I’m just rolling with the flow of comments.
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| 9:14 |
: this ump is such a bro
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| 9:14 |
: who would kill a pitcher with a metal bat first, Giancarlo Stanton or Aaron Judge?
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| 9:15 |
: It’d probably be someone random like Anthony Rendon or something.
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| 9:15 |
: Next expansion city, besides the obvious Montreal one?
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| 9:15 |
: Beyond Montreal, I will only support Santo Domingo, San Juan or Mexico City.
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| 9:15 |
: Let’s compromise metal gloves??
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| 9:15 |
: Done.
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| 9:16 |
: Does dressing up as a baseball player count as a Halloween costume?
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| 9:16 |
: Yes.
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| 9:16 |
: Ah damn I forgot to ask off work for my free taco bell taco
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| 9:16 |
: Way to think it through, David S.!!!!
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| 9:16 |
: I can sort of understand them not getting Beyonce but was Kelly Rowland really too busy?
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| 9:16 |
: Truth.
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| 9:16 |
: Is Carson aware of his own mystique?
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| 9:16 |
: Yes.
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| 9:16 |
: Pop or soda?
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| 9:16 |
: Soda.
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| 9:16 |
: Any HoF in this game?
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| 9:16 |
: Yes.
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| 9:17 |
: did you actually need either degree for your current job(s)?
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| 9:17 |
: Nope.
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| 9:17 |
: does Dan Szymborski refuse to associate with you on account of opinions on cats?
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| 9:17 |
: No, Dan is great. He is actually a super nice person.
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| 9:17 |
: Do you like Kit Kats?
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| 9:17 |
: Love Kit Kats.
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| 9:17 |
: how far is bogaerts out of this lindor/seager/correa conversation?
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| 9:18 |
: He’s on the periphery, but fading fast.
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| 9:18 |
: Speaking of Hosmer, of the main trio of KCR free agents, who ends up being the best deal?
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| 9:18 |
: Cain
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| 9:18 |
: Do you think the Yankees waited until the Red Sox picked their manager to fire Girardi?
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| 9:18 |
: I do, yes.
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| 9:18 |
: Gattis so slow.
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| 9:19 |
: there were a couple chats like 5 years ago where certain readers were designated to not need moderation. i forgot who ran them, it was on CIL, and I’m sure that was shut down for a reason
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| 9:19 |
: That had to be more than 5 years ago. I definitely don’t remember that.
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| 9:19 |
: Clemens?
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| 9:19 |
: He’s up there.
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| 9:19 |
: Chuck Finley has got to be in the conversation too (best pitcher all time)
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| 9:19 |
: Obvi.
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| 9:19 |
: Re. greatest…. Randy Johnson (peak) wants a piece of the pie, right?
|
| 9:19 |
: Yes.
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| 9:19 |
: Where is Giancarlo playing next year and what’s the cost?
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| 9:19 |
: Miami.
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| 9:20 |
: No one trading for him now that he’s 2 years from opt out. Only way he gets dealt is if Jeets dumps him.
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| 9:20 |
: they recently adjusted College metal bats to not perform that differently from wooden bats due to the safety problem
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| 9:20 |
: Yeah, but same results plus annoying ping is a downgrade.
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| 9:20 |
: Montreal and Portland are leading contenders
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| 9:20 |
: Portland should not be a leading contender.
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| 9:21 |
: Dave Cameron’s Competition-Balancing Brooklyn Expansion Team is never happening, is it
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| 9:21 |
: No, but it’s a much better idea than Portland.
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| 9:21 |
: Name something you’re afraid to admit you love
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| 9:21 |
: I’m not afraid to admit I love anything, but playing along, I like the new Kelly Clarkson album a lot more than I thought I would.
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| 9:21 |
: Mexico City would be difficult because interdivision games would require air travel further than Giants to Cubs distance
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| 9:22 |
: Yes, but it’d be worth it since there’s what, 12 million people there?
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| 9:22 |
: If you have jury duty, does Appelman give you the time off or do you have to write in the evenings?
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| 9:22 |
: Appelman has no idea when or how I do my work, and he doesn’t care either.
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| 9:22 |
: If I had jury duty I don’t even think I would tell him.
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| 9:22 |
: I mean, unless I got sequestered or something.
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| 9:22 |
: That was a nice double play, by the way.
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| 9:23 |
: Havana > any city you mentioned for expansion
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| 9:23 |
: Can’t see that ever being a realistic possibility.
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| 9:23 |
: Paul, how did you learn statistics for your pieces here?
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| 9:23 |
: Lots of years reading BP. And then I got to work for BP, and was forcefully taught everything I didn’t know.
|
| 9:23 |
: Who’s the first pick in the FG company softball game?
|
| 9:24 |
: I forget who got picked first last time we played wiffleball.
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| 9:24 |
: But I was MVP!!!!
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| 9:25 |
: Joe Buck vs George HW who wins in an arm wrestle
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| 9:25 |
: Come on, that’s just cruel.
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| 9:25 |
: I feel like Sullivan would be in contention for #1
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| 9:25 |
: Yeah, it was probably him. He’s just too good looking to be drafted anywhere else.
|
| 9:25 |
: three 0’s down, six to go
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| 9:25 |
: Cruising.
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| 9:26 |
: 39 pitches.
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| 9:26 |
: how was FanGraphs Whiffle Ball League Most Valuable Player determined?
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| 9:26 |
: I dunno, because I had to leave the game early. But I think August just decided it was me and no one argued with him.
|
| 9:26 |
: It’s always exciting when fat people do athletic things.
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| 9:27 |
: What’s wrong with Portland?
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| 9:27 |
: What’s RIGHT about Portland?
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| 9:27 |
: How does David Laurila pronounce his name? I just realized I wasn’t Laurilia, with another i.
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| 9:27 |
: Laurel-a
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| 9:27 |
: Yeah it’s not like Rich Aurilia.
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| 9:27 |
: The issue with Mexico City is the elevation is just stupid. It makes Coors look like Petco or Safeco.
|
| 9:28 |
: Yeah, I see that as a feature, not a bug. Why do you want all ballparks to be the same?
|
| 9:28 |
: Is Carson exhausting to talk to in real life?
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| 9:28 |
: No, quite the contrary. Carson is engaging, and genuinely interested in whomever he is talking to. I’ve met few people I like talking to more, actually.
|
| 9:29 |
: How about dark chocolate Kit Kats?
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| 9:29 |
: Those are better but harder to find, especially in Halloween size.
|
| 9:29 |
: I miss August
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| 9:29 |
: Me too.
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| 9:29 |
: When you’re so bad at whiffle ball that leaving early makes you the MVP
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| 9:29 |
: Hahaha. That was a weird day. I went from playing wiffle ball with the FG crew to a wedding in Queens.
|
| 9:30 |
: Maine is terrible for baseball
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| 9:30 |
: Santo Domingo and San Juan do not have the necessary wealth. Mexico City does but the players would hate it because of the travel burden. Would be interesting to add an altitude even higher than Denver, though.
|
| 9:30 |
: Yes, I realize that about San Juan and Santo Domingo. But if MLB is truly interested in embracing being an international game, it’d be a great investment on their part. Or you could just do Mexico City. 🙂
|
| 9:30 |
: breaking news- Phillies naming Gabe Kapler as manager
|
| 9:31 |
: Oh wow.
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| 9:31 |
: Good for Philly and Kapler.
|
| 9:31 |
: Have a game, Logan Forsythe!
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| 9:31 |
: Mexico City seems like such an unrealistic choice for this go around of expansion. Too far from other cities and elevation is ridiculous
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| 9:31 |
: Portland would make baseball stadium road trips more convenient, putting a nice stop between Seattle and the Bay.
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| 9:32 |
: Convenience winning the day would be incredibly short-sighted.
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| 9:32 |
: How was Carson in wiffleball? Something tells me he is either great or awful with no chance for a middle ground
|
| 9:32 |
: I don’t recall.
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| 9:32 |
: I think there’s a pretty good argument that the home park has held the Rockies back from developing as competitive a team and I think that that is not a good thing to create an even more extreme version of the same problem
|
| 9:33 |
: I think there’s a better argument that the Rockies didn’t have a cohesive player development strategy for their entire first decade of existence, and that that held them back. When they finally developed one in 2004-05, they got quickly on the right track.
|
| 9:33 |
: I think another problem with Mexico City is that anti-Americanism, according to Pew, is reaching record highs in Mexico and it is seems unlikely Mexico would currently have much interest in integrating with the US in just about any way (I tried to make this as apolitical as possible).
|
| 9:34 |
: Yeah, that’s a decent point. But people there still love baseball. Giancarlo could be baseball’s version of Rocky.
|
| 9:34 |
: Little League World Series strikezone is now in effect.
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| 9:34 |
: Huge strike zone tonight
|
| 9:34 |
: I had a dark chocolate Twix last week and it was amazing
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| 9:34 |
: I can’t find dark choc or peanut butter Twix right now. Maddening. Vexing even!
|
| 9:34 |
: Puig had no idea on that pitch. Nasty.
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| 9:35 |
: Mlbpa would have an issue with Mexico I would imagine
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| 9:35 |
: So I’m told. But MLBPA doesn’t have the power it once did.
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| 9:35 |
: Yeah, Chris is on this for the Annual again this year. Can’t wait to see what he comes up with.
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| 9:35 |
: The issue with Mexico City should be that it’s veeeery faaaar awaaaay. It’s twice as far from Mexico Ciy to Houston as it is from Seattle to Oakland.
|
| 9:36 |
: And yet, still closer than just about every other non-Canadian international city.
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| 9:36 |
: Ump’s zone is getting bigger
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| 9:36 |
: Must have a steak dinner with his name on it.
|
| 9:36 |
: Do you follow any other proffesional sporting activities?
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| 9:36 |
: The list is down to just about just the NBA. I still follow the Patriots, but not much other NFL stuff.
|
| 9:37 |
: I like the World Cup. I still love college hockey.
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| 9:37 |
: Why would any free agent pitcher ever want to pitch in Mexico city, ever?
|
| 9:37 |
: Because there’s only so many teams, and you gotta sign somewhere?
|
| 9:37 |
: Why did Greg Holland sign with the Rockies?
|
| 9:38 |
: Gonzalez didn’t exactly go hard after that fly ball, did he?
|
| 9:38 |
: I broke that news an hour ago
|
| 9:38 |
: Sorry, didn’t see it!
|
| 9:38 |
: do you think Wade Boggs legitimiately broke the Martinez hiring story?
|
| 9:38 |
: Yes?
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| 9:38 |
: Tell me something about Kapler
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| 9:38 |
: Oh, I have the funniest Gabe Kapler story.
|
| 9:38 |
: I’ll save for commercial.
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| 9:39 |
: Who gets Girardi?
|
| 9:39 |
: No one?
|
| 9:39 |
: I was shocked to see that the Bellinger strike 3 call hasn’t been blown up on here
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| 9:39 |
: It did, I just didn’t pick a lot of those comments, sorry.
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| 9:39 |
: People were v mad.
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| 9:39 |
: I think the players would hate Mexico City’s air almost as much as the travel.
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| 9:40 |
: Blah blah blah.
|
| 9:40 |
: what about las vegas
|
| 9:40 |
: What about it?
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| 9:40 |
: Of all the cities you guys have mentioned, the biggest city without a team would be Austin.
|
| 9:40 |
: What about Nashville
|
| 9:40 |
: What about it?
|
| 9:40 |
: when is expansion gonna happen?
|
| 9:40 |
: 5 years?
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| 9:41 |
: The Carolinas should have ended with a higher bid on this expansion talk. May not produce the revenue that Mexico City or Montreal could eventually bring, but it has to be somewhere close to Portland. In addition to having ready available infrastructure. What says you, Paul?
|
| 9:41 |
: Too much minor league ball in the Carolinas, it’ll never happen.
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| 9:41 |
: How do you think the altitude of a Mexico City field would be curbed, a domed stadium or a super big field?
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| 9:41 |
: Wow guess super big and domed.
|
| 9:41 |
: Come on, you wanted Keuchel to do better than a loopy single and a slow roller to second?
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| 9:42 |
: Seems like a quick hook to me.
|
| 9:42 |
: How has MLBPA lost power?
|
| 9:42 |
: Maybe you haven’t analyzed the most recent CBA…
|
| 9:42 |
: What kind of good Bostonian doesn’t follow the Bruins? A bad one.
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| 9:43 |
: What kind of Bostonian supports a crook like Jeremy Jacobs? A bad one.
|
| 9:43 |
: we might be headed for our first truly “bad” game of the series
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| 9:43 |
: Terrible route by Gonzalez there.
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| 9:43 |
: wow that looked catchable!!!
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| 9:43 |
: Man, Marwin is lousy.
|
| 9:43 |
: That was a pretty lazy path to the ball
|
| 9:43 |
: Why college hockey and not NHL?
|
| 9:43 |
: Because there are no fights in college hockey, and because it is the only sport my school – BU – is good at.
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| 9:43 |
: Gonzalez was just trying to avoid kicking the ball a la Schwarber.
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| 9:44 |
: Couldn’t MLB put a team in San Juan in an effort to help develop the city/country? Whenever teams ask for primo downtown land for a new stadium, the arguments always revitalization.
|
| 9:44 |
: Yup.
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| 9:44 |
: Girardi is going to pull a Francona. Go on ESPN for one season and take the available gig of his choice the following season.
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| 9:44 |
: Mexico City would be incredible to play in. Some of the best food in the world there.
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| 9:44 |
: Thanks Elie.
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| 9:44 |
: New Orleans?
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| 9:45 |
: Too humid, downtown is already built up.
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| 9:45 |
: Saints play literally in the bayou. No thanks.
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| 9:45 |
: Mexico City could build a pressurized air-filtered stadium.
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| 9:45 |
: Is there any chance we have expansion without playoff expansion? 1/3 of the teams in the playoffs is already too much
|
| 9:45 |
: Yeah I think that’s a possibility. But I won’t be surprised if they expand.
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| 9:46 |
: Is there a ‘need’ for expansion? Or is this partly…”Look at me, I’m commissioner-ing”
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| 9:46 |
: Need is a strong word. There isn’t really a NEED for baseball at all.
|
| 9:46 |
: But I’m sure the owners would like two nice, fat expansion fees, yes.
|
| 9:47 |
: Dodgers in 6?
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| 9:47 |
: I think it goes 7.
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| 9:47 |
: Can I just say – WHY IS LUKE GREGERSON IN THIS GAME?
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| 9:47 |
: This is his first appearance in this series.
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| 9:47 |
: You didn’t trust him until your team was getting its ass kicked?
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| 9:48 |
: Gabe Kapler story time!!!
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| 9:48 |
: OK.
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| 9:48 |
: So, I used to work in the Rockies call center. 1-800-388-ROCK or 303-ROCKIES.
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| 9:48 |
: One day, a person called up, and said he needed to talk to someone in baseball ops. He said his name was Gabe Kapler.
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| 9:49 |
: One of our ladies who worked there, who was a little long in years, didn’t quite understand, but she asked our boss about a Gabe Kapler.
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| 9:49 |
: Our supervisor, not knowing was going on with this call but assumed it was a fan asking about Kapler told her, no, Kapler had just been sent to the minors.
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| 9:50 |
: So the lady got back on the phone and said, “Sorry honey, but Gabe Kapler just got sent to the minors. He’s not with the team anymore.”
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| 9:50 |
: And the actual Gabe Kapler, on the other end of the line said, as patient as could be, “Yes ma’am, I know, I just want to see if someone can forward some of the stuff in my apartment in Denver down to Colorado Springs for me.”
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| 9:51 |
: Needless to say, she never lived down that phone call. 😉
|
| 9:51 |
: that was actually a cool story – thanks Paul
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| 9:51 |
: It being a base coach the best job in baseball?
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| 9:51 |
: No, bullpen catcher.
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| 9:51 |
: Could kershaw start a potential game 7 on wednesday?
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| 9:52 |
: He COULD – but I’d bet on him coming on in relief if needed.
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| 9:52 |
: I was fully expecting Kapler to not have known he had been sent down yet
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| 9:52 |
: I was terrified about Midway through that kapler didn’t know yet and that was going to be the story
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| 9:52 |
: That’s a great story.
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| 9:52 |
: Hah. Awesome
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| 9:52 |
: Thanks for the story.
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| 9:52 |
: How did the lady get confused by someone on the phone saying “Hi I’m Gabe Kapler”?
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| 9:52 |
: Not sure, but that’s what makes the story so adorable!
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| 9:52 |
: great story
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| 9:52 |
: I don’t know there’s a bullpen catcher who has to warm up Aroldis Chapman
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| 9:52 |
: True.
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| 9:53 |
: But he gets a major league salary, and gets to sit around most of the time doing nothing.
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| 9:53 |
: I’m sure the team with Chapman has like, extra padding in his glove or something.
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| 9:53 |
: Isn’t the best job in baseball the organist?
|
| 9:53 |
: Nah, that’s not a full-time job.
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| 9:53 |
: I didnt think bullpen catchers got a huge salary?
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| 9:53 |
: I think they make like $300, $400 k
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| 9:54 |
: Plus they get a playoff share if the team gets to the playoffs.
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| 9:54 |
: And he gets to travel with the team, post-game spread, etc. All the good perks.
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| 9:54 |
: What exactly does the BP coach do other than pick up the phone and then tell someone to get ready
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| 9:55 |
: Come on, they have to watch a guy’s mechanics. They have to know who is really available and who is just pretending to be available but pitching through pain. They do stuff.
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| 9:55 |
: How do you become a bullpen catcher?
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| 9:55 |
: That’s a great question. I think usually they just pick out catchers who were in the farm system but wash out in like High-A or something.
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| 9:55 |
: Bullen catchers make 500K?!
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| 9:55 |
: I think so, yeah. They’re considered one of the coaches.
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| 9:55 |
: Gabe Kapler, Dave Martinez, Callaway, & Gardenhire. Which guy would you Freaky Friday with? Which new hire is more appealing? Including personality, team situation, ownership, future, etc.?
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| 9:56 |
: I would do freaky friday with kapler. have you seen that dude? he’s like an adonis.
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| 9:56 |
: Bullpen catchers are always older guys. I doubt their knees think it’s a good gig.
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| 9:56 |
: No, the guy with the Rockies – Strittmatter – was in his 30s or so.
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| 9:56 |
: When I was there anyway.
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| 9:56 |
: Ball boy in foul territory would be SO MUCH FUN
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| 9:57 |
: I don’t think I’d handle that job well.
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| 9:57 |
: They get 30,000 to $60,000.
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| 9:57 |
: Yeah? OK, maybe I’m way off.
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| 9:57 |
: OK my bad.
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| 9:57 |
: The bull pen catcher get a player world series ring?
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| 9:58 |
: I mean, I got an NL champs ring, so I assume that the bullpen catcher got one too.
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| 9:58 |
: This seems like it could be a pivotal moment for the Astros.
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| 9:58 |
: Altuve on, Springer on base. Less than two outs.
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| 9:58 |
: Is being well-liked a major consideration for being a bullpen catcher?
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| 9:58 |
: Probably.
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| 9:59 |
: Best job would be the bat dog
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| 9:59 |
: What about the field crew person who holds the back end of the hose?
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| 9:59 |
: That job is boring.
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| 9:59 |
: And usually only 2-3 members of the grounds crew are full-time, salaried employees.
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| 9:59 |
: BUT the other guys are always on call.
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| 10:00 |
: That job actually kind of sucks unless you’re one of the salaried guys.
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| 10:00 |
: Holy crap – the first two lines of the Kapler image search are mostly him shirtless. I’ll never look like that
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| 10:00 |
: Nope!
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| 10:00 |
: Still 50k with no living expenses is damn good.
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| 10:00 |
: Yeah, I’d take it.
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| 10:00 |
: So now that we have an updated bullpen catcher salary would you do it for Chapman’s team?
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| 10:00 |
: Still yes.
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| 10:00 |
: Here we go, Houston.
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| 10:01 |
: I would think a 1st base coach is more useless than a bullpen catcher. All 1st base coach does it collect a player’s batting gloves
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| 10:01 |
: Yeah but they usually do other stuff like coach the infielders or outfielders.
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| 10:01 |
: How much different are the player rings vs FO folks?
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| 10:01 |
: For the Rockies, the only difference in rings was the name of the person on the side.
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| 10:01 |
: do dome teams really need on-call grounds crew?
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| 10:02 |
: Well, maybe not dome teams.
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| 10:02 |
: TBH I think the best job in baseball would be to be a major league baseball making millions of dollars per year.
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| 10:02 |
: Hahaha.
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| 10:02 |
: Do or die here, Correa needs to come up big to make this a game
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| 10:02 |
: by the way, how can Kershaw be so good when it seems like 90% of pitchers throw faster than him now?
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| 10:02 |
: What percent of baseball players have visible abs?
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| 10:02 |
: More than you think.
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| 10:03 |
: Wow close play at second.
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| 10:03 |
: And the left fielder was WAY far away from that.
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| 10:03 |
: I remember when Derek Lowe started G7 of the 2004 ALCS on 2 days rest–could that ever happen again?
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| 10:03 |
: Well, Lowe was a sinker baller. The lack of rest gave his sinker more drop. Kershaw isn’t that guy.
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| 10:03 |
: But yes, it COULD happen.
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| 10:03 |
: Correa looks safe on the super slo mo.
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| 10:04 |
: Wow that is as close as it could possible be.
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| 10:04 |
: What a bunch of soft contacts
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| 10:04 |
: That’s what it takes sometimes.
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| 10:04 |
: that ball took a loooooooooooooong time to get to the outfield
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| 10:04 |
: If I told you Luke Gregerson came in during the fourth and ended up with the win, would you believe me?
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| 10:04 |
: safe
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| 10:04 |
: Safe, very.
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| 10:04 |
: Easy safe
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| 10:04 |
: Great throw but he’s in there
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| 10:04 |
: It was a great throw.
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| 10:05 |
: “the lack of rest gave his sinker more drop” Thats not a thing is it?
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| 10:05 |
: That’s what Francona and Lowe said at the time. I don’t know if it’s ACTUALLY a thing.
|
| 10:05 |
: WOW
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| 10:05 |
: Gurriel ties it.
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| 10:05 |
: Going to be a lot of very pissed off Dodgers fans.
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| 10:05 |
: Kershaw chokes again — tomorrow’s headline
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| 10:06 |
: WIth Kershaw starting a playoff game, there really is nothing that qualifies as a safe lead.
|
| 10:06 |
: Luke Gregerson…
|
| 10:06 |
: We have a game
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| 10:06 |
: Redemption!!
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| 10:06 |
: This game is crazy
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| 10:06 |
: is the rule still being upheld where an unsuccessful challenge means you can’t challenge for the rest of the game?
|
| 10:06 |
: Just pump this series directly into my veins.
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| 10:06 |
: Wowow
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| 10:06 |
: What a series this has been and continues to be
|
| 10:06 |
: Luke Gregerson!
|
| 10:06 |
: Why him? Why why why
|
| 10:06 |
: Back from being the goat
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| 10:06 |
: The playoff Kershaw narrative is back and stronger than ever.
|
| 10:06 |
: How can Kershaw be the best pitcher in the game when he is so unbelievably unclutch?
|
| 10:06 |
: two challenges postseason
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| 10:06 |
: Homerun sideshow bob!
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| 10:06 |
: Another slider that didn’t slide.
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| 10:06 |
: He was not going to be suspended for more than a game I think, so….
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| 10:07 |
: Come on CJ, you know people won’t see it that way.
|
| 10:07 |
: Man, that ball was smoked.
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| 10:07 |
: that is the last thing i wanted to happen
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| 10:07 |
: I’d hate to be Rob Manfred right now.
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| 10:07 |
: I like Yulis hair its cool, little to old for it tho
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| 10:07 |
: That man’s hair is a crime against humanity.
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| 10:07 |
: RACISM WINS!
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| 10:07 |
: How dare somebody say this game wasn’t good
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| 10:07 |
: What was a bigger moonshot, that or Pujols on Lidge?
|
| 10:07 |
: Moonshot isn’t the right word there.
|
| 10:07 |
: If you need between-inning entertainment, all the bat dog videos I found are of very good dogs but sub-replacement level retrievers
|
| 10:08 |
: damn you see Altuves Bicep there
|
| 10:08 |
: If Kershaw can settle down and pitch another couple innings the Dodgers probably still have this considering we’re looking at 5 innings from the Astros bullpen.
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| 10:08 |
: Ah. The guy who shouldnt even be playing ties it. Perfect
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| 10:08 |
: (I’m an asian BTW. I have a p**sed-off family member at home beside me)
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| 10:08 |
: Not saying they shouldn’t be pissed off, BTW.
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| 10:08 |
: Pujols on Lidge ripped a black hole in spacetime. It was special
|
| 10:09 |
: I can hear that crowd in New York. Holy crap that place is loud right now
|
| 10:09 |
: I really hope Gurriel goes off for the rest of the series just to see the hoops MLB goes through to not away him the WS MVP.
|
| 10:09 |
: Salty. So salty.
|
| 10:09 |
: You guys like the Astros playing the Dodgers? Well let me tell you about a time, just a few years ago, where they literally played 40+ times a year.
|
| 10:09 |
: I laughed.
|
| 10:09 |
: Gurriel’s haircut plus Keuchel’s beard
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| 10:09 |
: Gross
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| 10:09 |
: Paul can you differentiate between the Matts more than we can. There is at least 2
|
| 10:10 |
: No, that’s on you guys.
|
| 10:10 |
:
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| 10:10 |
: I bet we’ll be seeing several inning of McHugh soon
|
| 10:10 |
: Probably.
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| 10:10 |
: Astros fans supporting Gurriel is like people supporting corrupt politicians just because they are on the same “team”.
|
| 10:10 |
: Do you think Gurriel should have been suspended for this game?
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| 10:11 |
: I would have given him a choice.
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| 10:11 |
: Choice 1 – Be suspended for the rest of the World Series but he gets to collect his playoff share and his ring.
|
| 10:11 |
: Choice 2 – He can play for the rest of the World Series, but he forfeits his playoff share and ring.
|
| 10:11 |
: Unfortunately, it’s not really within the Commissioner’s power to govern playoff shares.
|
| 10:12 |
: Not really even within the team’s power.
|
| 10:12 |
: After watching the clip, Pujols still wins.
|
| 10:12 |
: What’d happen if Dodgers *accidentally* hit Gurriel? That would be a headache for MLB.
|
| 10:13 |
: I wouldn’t rule it out if this somehow gets out of hand. But now that it’s a tie…
|
| 10:13 |
: Just to play devils advocate… if he was suspended for one game it would have been last game. In that universe he still plays today.
|
| 10:13 |
: Yup.
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| 10:13 |
: McHugh is in according to MLB.com
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| 10:13 |
: So he is.
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| 10:13 |
: I would have given him a choice – either you’re suspended now, or you’re suspended now.
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| 10:13 |
: I just like the mind games of making him choose btw money or team, is all.
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| 10:14 |
: You’d see a player’s true character reveal itself.
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| 10:14 |
: In a world where the player’s union doesn’t exist, that sounds like a nice option
|
| 10:14 |
: Right. 🙂
|
| 10:14 |
: Kershaw’s 8 HRs allowed in the 2017 playoffs is the most allowed in a single postseason of all time.
|
| 10:14 |
: Wow.
|
| 10:14 |
: Wow.
|
| 10:14 |
: not defending Yuli, but do you think that his gesture would have been perceived that way in Cuba/Japan?
|
| 10:15 |
: I can’t speak to Cuba, but I would certainly think it would have in Japan, yes.
|
| 10:15 |
: I might be a bit to cynical, but I’m pretty sure theres plenty of baseball players more racist then Yuli, considering the heavy assholeitude of lots of MLB players
|
| 10:15 |
: You’re correct. Which is why he thought his teammates would find it amusing.
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| 10:15 |
: I don’t see why they couldn’t have both suspended him for 1 WS game + 5 regular season games next year. Makes him forfeit pay, but also establish precent for missing playoff games if you stupid racist things
|
| 10:16 |
: Sure, they could have done that. They just didn’t want to.
|
| 10:16 |
: To play additional Devil’s advocate, they likely appeal and THEN he gets suspended this game
|
| 10:16 |
: Well, I don’t think we can say that with any certainty.
|
| 10:16 |
: isn’t the WS share relatively small?
|
| 10:16 |
: I guess it’s a matter of perspective.
|
| 10:17 |
: You and your mind games!
|
| 10:17 |
: The commissioner can do whatever they want. Hasn’t that been made clear? Claim best interest of baseball and it can’t be challanged
|
| 10:17 |
: That’s not how unions work.
|
| 10:17 |
: Im rooting for the Dodgers, but if you think a man that lived 31 of his 32 years in Cuba should have been suspended from the WORLD SERIES for being a little racist you need some time alone to think.
|
| 10:17 |
: Only cuz Maddon didn’t start lackey
|
| 10:17 |
: Hahaha RE: Kershaw’s homers.
|
| 10:18 |
: Meanwhile, Dodgers already have a threat working.
|
| 10:18 |
: the plate is over there, McHugh —>
|
| 10:18 |
: Speaking of the game currently happening instead of (admittedly interesting) hypotheticals, McCugh looks terrible.
|
| 10:18 |
: As a union member, I recognize the importance of upholding the process even for someone who’s clearly in the wrong. Arbitration works by precedent, so you have to treat the clear-cut cases the same way you do the borderline ones. MLBPA was right not to waive the appeals process unless the suspension was put off.
|
| 10:18 |
: This is probably way too nuanced for a baseball chat but…one of the things missing in this discussion, and a lot of discussion of race in this country quite frankly, is that doing something racist isn’t the same as being a racist.
|
| 10:19 |
: That’s a fair point. But doing something racist on a broadcast millions of people are watching may have a bigger affect than not being truly racist in private.
|
| 10:19 |
: I fully understand people who disagree, but I actually like the way MLB handled Yuli. Suspensions are always so subjective in length you don’t want to screw it up and have the league decide the WS.
|
| 10:19 |
: McHugh looks like a baseball player version of Haley Joel Osmet
|
| 10:19 |
: Not to talk baseball but.. Is Verlander available for an inning or two?
|
| 10:20 |
: I sincerely doubt it.
|
| 10:20 |
: MAYBE McCullers, but I doubt that too.
|
| 10:20 |
: I get that people are still pissed about Gurriel, but we all make mistakes. He knew he made a mistake and apologized for it. Darkish accepted his apology and is willing to move on. Can’t we all move on?
|
| 10:20 |
: Is this your first time on the internet, Connor? 🙂
|
| 10:20 |
: Man that’s a tough strike 3 call, but it looked like it was int he zone.
|
| 10:21 |
: Nope, actually Gameday has it inside.
|
| 10:21 |
: is there a scenario where it’d make sense to send out Verlander? At home, chance to get one of the 2 wins needed for the Astros. Tied game. Then if he pitches only a couple innings, go with him game 7 to start
|
| 10:22 |
: I think I’d rather just stick with him for Game 6 and hope he throws a complete game. With your plan, he’s definitely not throwing a CG in Game 7.
|
| 10:22 |
: I’m flabbergasted by the defenses of racism being posted here. Come on.
|
| 10:22 |
: Do players who sign in their teens go through some sort of cultural education/training? And do grown up FA signings like Gurriel?
|
| 10:23 |
: Whether they go through it or not, they’re still teenagers, and as such, probably not paying attention. But also, that wouldn’t have applied to Gurriel, who was most certainly not a teenager when he signed.
|
| 10:23 |
: Oh wow.
|
| 10:23 |
: I guess Reddick was too shallow there, but that barely got out. He might have had a shot at robbing that if he was in position.
|
| 10:24 |
: I do agree that international kids (and grown ups!) could use cultural mentors.
|
| 10:24 |
: Crushed.
|
| 10:24 |
: belldinger
|
| 10:24 |
: Belly is back
|
| 10:24 |
: Wasn’t Bellinger a pumpkin like two days ago?
|
| 10:24 |
: BELLIDONG
|
| 10:24 |
: Christ this Houston pen stinks
|
| 10:24 |
: Reddick could have robbed that if he actually would have tried
|
| 10:24 |
: BELLIBOMB
|
| 10:24 |
: Astros bullpen should be tried for crimes against humanity at the Hague.
|
| 10:24 |
: Needed every inch of that
|
| 10:24 |
: wow- Hinch is going to get really pounded for bringing in McHugh in this situation……
|
| 10:24 |
: Who would you have brought in?
|
| 10:24 |
: leave kershaw in for another?
|
| 10:24 |
: Now, yeah.
|
| 10:25 |
: Bottom of order, chance for redemption.
|
| 10:25 |
: BAD MCHUGH, VERY BAD
|
| 10:25 |
: Bellinger MVP so far?
|
| 10:25 |
: How crazy would that statement have felt 24 hours ago.
|
| 10:25 |
: This series really has made me notice how much the Cubs players cursed last year with the audio drops compared to this year.
|
| 10:25 |
: You just can’t win a WS with a pen like this.
|
| 10:26 |
: Paul, you’re forgetting that you’re Reddick to try and perform in a clutch situation.
|
| 10:26 |
: Definition of a wall scraper
|
| 10:26 |
: What does Kershaw have to do from here on out to get WSMVP honors? I feel like the odds are way too low now.
|
| 10:26 |
: He’d have to close out Game 7.
|
| 10:26 |
: Bellinger is PROOF that you do not sit someone in the playoffs just because they are struggling if they’ve been good all year long
|
| 10:26 |
: RACISM ASIDE: wow what a series
|
| 10:26 |
: Astros don’t have anybody available it’s like devinski and Liriano
|
| 10:26 |
: Seriously, what the hell happened to the Astros pen? It was pretty good all year, and has been horrific this month
|
| 10:26 |
: Well I’d like to think part of it is they keep trusting SPs as RPs.
|
| 10:27 |
: At some point you need the actual relievers, but many of them are rusty.
|
| 10:27 |
: For instance, Gregerson scraped by, but before tonight he hadn’t pitched since Oct. 17.
|
| 10:28 |
: I mean, really? 12 days ago? How were you expecting him to be sharp?
|
| 10:28 |
: Both pens have been quite fallible.
|
| 10:28 |
: Why would a manager worry about who is “closing” at this point?
|
| 10:28 |
: That’s how they’re wired.
|
| 10:29 |
: Wasn’t Astros pen like really good in the regular season?
|
| 10:29 |
: It was.
|
| 10:29 |
: If I go to bed now, I should be able to get 8 hours of sleep and still catch the 8th inning.
|
| 10:29 |
: Giles doesn’t have a slider because of the ball and Hinch doesn’t trust Harris that much
|
| 10:29 |
: Not giving him the cop out of claiming the ball.
|
| 10:29 |
: The ball is the same for everyone.
|
| 10:30 |
: You have to be able to adjust to differing conditions. If he can only throw a slider with one specific type of baseball, then he doesn’t have a good slider period.
|
| 10:30 |
: Maeda available tonight?
|
| 10:30 |
: Would guess yes, but didn’t read anything about it beforehand.
|
| 10:30 |
: This really has been an incredible series.
|
| 10:31 |
: So it AJ Hinch mismanaging, or is he just left with shitty choices?
|
| 10:31 |
: Tough to say. Inclined to think both.
|
| 10:31 |
: going back to the called 3rd strike on hernandez: how do umps get framed so bad like that? the hitter had to duck away from it to avoid getting hit and then the catcher caught it way inside and moved it like 6 inches towards the plate before holding it still. how does an ump miss all that?
|
| 10:31 |
: Because he’s human.
|
| 10:31 |
: Wait can we talk about this strike zone?
|
| 10:31 |
: I get it, it’s a bad zone tonight guys.
|
| 10:32 |
: with day off tomorrow, is Jansen coming in for a 4-6 out save?
|
| 10:32 |
: Maybe. Though that didn’t really work the last time.
|
| 10:32 |
: Hard to believe it’s still the fifth inning.
|
| 10:32 |
: The Astros led the MLB in bullpen WAR in the first half, to just back Matt a bit
|
| 10:32 |
: Sorry, Paul, but I’m not buying that explanation overall. Maybe it’s just small samples, but Giles, Devenski, and Harris haven’t been sharp.
|
| 10:33 |
: Three guys not being sharp doesn’t automatically mean it’s the baseball’s fault.
|
| 10:33 |
: Other poor outings aside, that pitch Bellinger hit was outside and had him reaching. He’s just really strong and really good.
|
| 10:33 |
: Possible they cut the seams down in the playoffs for added HR (like all star game / HR derby)?
|
| 10:33 |
: Maybe.
|
| 10:33 |
: Counter point: Baseball players HATE change
|
| 10:34 |
: Everyone hates change. Baseball players aren’t special in that regard.
|
| 10:34 |
: If Kershaw cruises in this inning, let him start the 6th?
|
| 10:34 |
: Yes.
|
| 10:34 |
: are you getting your free taco this week Paul?!
|
| 10:34 |
: I don’t like the Doritos ones, so probably not.
|
| 10:34 |
:
After running & re-running the movement data, there’s nothing that backs up these claims. Not to say that’s case cl… twitter.com/i/web/status/9…
|
| 10:34 |
: Dont know how much you trust Jeff long, but that is something
|
| 10:34 |
: I trust Jeff Long a great deal.
|
| 10:35 |
: Don’t think Kershaw should be in the game now.
|
| 10:35 |
: There’s no way McCugh can be a better option than Giles/Harris/etc even with all things considered
|
| 10:35 |
: and Kershaw looks rough still……
|
| 10:35 |
: Just got here, has anyone noticed the crazy strike zone yet?
|
| 10:35 |
: Yes, many people have.
|
| 10:35 |
: no way Morrow pitches AGAIN tonight…
|
| 10:35 |
: Why not?
|
| 10:36 |
: He threw 14 pitches last night and 13 the night before.
|
| 10:36 |
: The FG K zone tool has it looking big but not egregious. I think it’s too easy to be picky
|
| 10:36 |
: “False start, offense”. God he’s the worst. At least he could have gotten it right and said defense.
|
| 10:37 |
: He is the worst.
|
| 10:37 |
: most surprising thing about this game so far?
|
| 10:37 |
: The Gurriel homer.
|
| 10:37 |
: Not automatically, but might severely reduce the margin for error. Great sliders become good, good become average, and average become meatballs.
|
| 10:37 |
: Then don’t throw your slider.
|
| 10:37 |
: That pitch aside, Kershaw’s not looking too good.
|
| 10:37 |
: He isn’t.
|
| 10:37 |
: Re: Giles’ slider – it’s the same pitch it was last year based on movement and velocity
|
| 10:38 |
: Why do you think managers are more apt to overreact to relievers struggles (see Giles/Harris/etc) over hitters struggles (see Bellinger)? Would think you would give both long leashes if they carried you all season
|
| 10:38 |
: Because we pay more attention to it.
|
| 10:38 |
: Manfred has been so loudly consistent about not monkeying with the ball (at least knowingly) that he’s really going to get hammered if it turns out not to be true. And it seems like it would definitely come out, given how many people would have to be involved in the manufacturing process.
|
| 10:38 |
: Oh yeah, he’s stuck now. If he’s been dicking with the ball all year and it comes out, it could cost him his job. But it won’t come out.
|
| 10:38 |
: MLB has good lawyers. 🙂
|
| 10:39 |
: That was a joke, sorry Paul
|
| 10:39 |
: Oh.
|
| 10:39 |
: Sorry!
|
| 10:39 |
: Swing and a miss!
|
| 10:39 |
: ls kershaw hurt?
|
| 10:39 |
: No, just not invincible.
|
| 10:39 |
: Also, side note – the Astros are really good!
|
| 10:39 |
: 4 whiffs on 76 pitches so far. Same stuff Kershaw had in game 6 of last year’s NLCS. He’s hittable right now.
|
| 10:39 |
: Dodgers have said that morrow is Last Resort only today
|
| 10:39 |
: Yeah, well, how do you define last resort?
|
| 10:40 |
: You want McCarthy or Fields pitching again?
|
| 10:40 |
: Jeff Long is a bright, hard-working dude.
|
| 10:40 |
: In fairness, defenses can’t false start.
|
| 10:41 |
: Right, but the pitcher is technically on defense.
|
| 10:42 |
: It was just another obtuse comment in a long, long, LONG string of them from Joe Buck. You listen to him for long enough and your senses get dulled so much that each thing sounds less and less stupid, because you lose the reference point of what is intelligent and what isn’t.
|
| 10:42 |
: So abandon your best pitch? Seems easier said than done
|
| 10:42 |
: Better than getting shelled.
|
| 10:42 |
: Is this 100% Kershaws last inning
|
| 10:42 |
: Has to be now, yeah.
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| 10:42 |
: May be his last batter.
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| 10:43 |
: Springer looks like a douchebag
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| 10:43 |
: I don’t see that at all. AT ALL. Sorry.
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| 10:43 |
: Isn’t Manfred a lawyer?
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| 10:43 |
: He IS a lawyer.
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| 10:43 |
: Mistake to leave Kershaw in for Bregman here?
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| 10:44 |
: Maybe. Feels more and more like his last hitter.
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| 10:44 |
: could the balls be dicked with because Manfred has a deal with t mobile to donate more money?
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| 10:44 |
: No because T-Mobile’s donations are capped at $2 million.
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| 10:44 |
: If questioned, can the umpire say he was framed?
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| 10:44 |
: Maeda for 2, and you hope you get 3-4 more runs?
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| 10:45 |
: Maeda for two. Maybe Watson and Cingrani get an out or two.
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| 10:45 |
: Looking like a lot of Kenley tonight.
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| 10:45 |
: Called it!
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| 10:45 |
: What a turn of events. Kershaw CRUISED through 3.
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| 10:45 |
: In fairness, its stupid to be arguing about a dumb football joke Joe Buck made
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| 10:45 |
: It is. I’ve just had it with him.
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| 10:45 |
: He’s not good at calling baseball OR football.
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| 10:46 |
: I define Last Resort as that Papa Roach song
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| 10:46 |
: I define Last Resort as the bar/club in “Total Recall.”
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| 10:46 |
: oh I really want another 3 run HR this inning. I love wild swings in the Win Probability graph
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| 10:46 |
: Unrelated but any chance we’ll see a fangraphs app for iOS soon?
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| 10:46 |
: Nope. We chose responsive website over a new app.
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| 10:46 |
: 50 pitches for Kershaw last 2 innings….
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| 10:47 |
: Agreed, but why the hate on Smolz if Buck is the most annoying person on Earth?
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| 10:47 |
: Smoltz is fine. I just like David Cone better.
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| 10:47 |
: Joe Buck calls baseball like he’d rather be watching football. Not always this overtly with talk of false starts and the Cowboys, but he always seems like he’s bored and doesn’t want to be there.
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| 10:47 |
: What will seal WS MVP for Kershaw is hit level of grit – really gutting his way through 5 innings. And if he doesn’t get MVP, then he’s got to at least get the Kirk Gibson Trophy.
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| 10:48 |
: So who is the front runner for MVP right now? Bellinger? Forsythe?
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| 10:48 |
: Every time I think I’ve caught up to the queue I realize there is another whole page of comments I haven’t even seen yet. You all are the best.
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| 10:48 |
: Why do the world series patches look like decals you’d buy for a dollar at the store
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| 10:48 |
: they basically are.
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| 10:48 |
: I think the patches are like $6 ?
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| 10:49 |
: I feel bad for Kershaw
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| 10:49 |
: So Kershaw may get a ring thus year without really altering the “un-clutch playoff Kershaw” narrative
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| 10:49 |
: Well, he was great in Game 1 of the World Series.
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| 10:49 |
: But yeah, probably.
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| 10:49 |
: It’s weird how the Dodgers are up by 3 but it still feels a bit deflating to see Kershaw exit like that.
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| 10:49 |
: I would buy 6 fangraphs memberships for an iOS app
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| 10:49 |
: No you wouldn’t.
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| 10:50 |
: I’m glad you chose website over app
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| 10:50 |
: Soooooo did anybody have Kershaw and Keuchel combining for 8.1 IP, 5 bb and 6k?
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| 10:50 |
: Current best color commentator?
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| 10:50 |
: Cone
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| 10:50 |
: Can we kill adds playing in gifs!!!
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| 10:50 |
: I can’t, sorry.
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| 10:50 |
: FG mobile site is great except the drop down search menu is really intrusive
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| 10:50 |
: As a web dev: Responsive design >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile app
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| 10:50 |
: Any chat during the day tomorrow i need something to do at work
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| 10:51 |
: Yeah, I think Travis or Dan. Or both.
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| 10:51 |
: Joe Buck sounds bored calling Super Bowl
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| 10:51 |
: I never thought Joe Buck was too bad until I heard Matt Vasgersian call playoff games. The excitement in his voice just elevates the entire broadcast
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| 10:51 |
: Buck had the opportunity for an all-time call last year when the Cubs won and he had nothing ready for it.
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| 10:51 |
: don’t sleep on JocMVP
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| 10:51 |
: As a web developer, you chose right.
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| 10:51 |
: Thanks!
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| 10:51 |
: racism… conspiracy theories… joe bucks football puns… That’s how u know a game is moving too slowly!
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| 10:51 |
: Paul how tall are you?
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| 10:51 |
: 5’9″ – 5’10”
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| 10:52 |
: HO HO HO, Altuve, so close.
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| 10:52 |
: Where would one find the winn probability chart?
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| 10:52 |
: Under the “Scores” tab
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| 10:53 |
: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ALTUVE
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| 10:53 |
: OMG
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| 10:53 |
: Wow…
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| 10:53 |
: ALTUVE
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| 10:53 |
: oh, my gawd
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| 10:53 |
: WOWZA
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| 10:53 |
: My god
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| 10:53 |
: Ahhhh
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| 10:53 |
: HOLY SHITBISCUITS
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| 10:53 |
: ALTUVE!
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| 10:53 |
: JUuuuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiecccceeddddd ballllllll
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| 10:53 |
: QHAT
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| 10:53 |
: Altuve is a grown up Pablo Sanchez
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| 10:53 |
: This game is craz
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| 10:53 |
: this game just went plaid
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| 10:53 |
: WOW
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| 10:53 |
: BASEBALL IS BORING
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| 10:53 |
: Point me
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| 10:53 |
: TIED BALLGAME!!!!
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| 10:54 |
: Are you kidding me?!??!!
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| 10:54 |
: This is insane.
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| 10:54 |
: oh my god
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| 10:54 |
: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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| 10:54 |
: so much for this being the first bad game
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| 10:54 |
: ALL THE GOAT EMOJIS
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| 10:54 |
: YASSS
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| 10:54 |
: Man this is an entertaining game, too bad I won’t be able to finish watching it
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| 10:54 |
: This game is just bonkers
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| 10:54 |
: That one was more than just close!
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| 10:54 |
: Game 2 comes 4 innings or so faster
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| 10:54 |
: Was just thinking that.
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| 10:54 |
: Win Probability Graph spikes FTW
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| 10:54 |
: This series is insane. My goodness.
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| 10:55 |
: Forsythe hurting his MVP chances.
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| 10:55 |
: Altuve might win MVP either way anyway.
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| 10:55 |
: This game might have another bunch of WPA’s bigger than .25
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| 10:55 |
: Incredible. Paul are you still here?
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| 10:55 |
: Still here!
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| 10:55 |
: As an east coaster, I am sad I will miss the last four hours of this game when I go to bed at midnight.
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| 10:55 |
: That ball went at least 100 Altuve’s!
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| 10:55 |
: Remember when we were talking about expansion cities?
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| 10:56 |
: Keuchel Kershaw pitchers duel
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| 10:56 |
: Just like we all expected.
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| 10:56 |
: This would be an underrated decent time for putting a ball in Gurriel’s ear. Just sayin’. Sets up the force play.
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| 10:56 |
: This series is starting to feel scripted to bring in new fans, and I LOVE IT!
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| 10:56 |
: I might have missed something, but what happened to Justin Turner?
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| 10:57 |
: Hurt his leg.
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| 10:57 |
: NOW JOE BUCK IS MAKING BOXING ANALOGIES. Kill me.
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| 10:57 |
: PAUL how may one discover playoff statistics on Fangraphs dot com?
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| 10:57 |
: It’s a great question and I don’t have an answer for it.
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| 10:57 |
: You basically have to go through the game logs and hand calculate them.
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| 10:58 |
: i know there’s been a losing Super Bowl MVP but I don’t think that’s happened for the WS
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| 10:58 |
: First time for everything?!
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| 10:58 |
: Who has the bullpen advantage rest of game?
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| 10:58 |
: Dodgers still have Kenley, so them.
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| 10:58 |
: paul you excited to be here for 5 hours?
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| 10:58 |
: Always.
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| 10:59 |
: I call beltran or ethier world series hero at this point
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| 10:59 |
: Kershaw’s reaction to the Altuve Homer: “Whelp, better pull my pants up to my nipples”.
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| 10:59 |
: And then if Gurriel charges the mound, *then* what does Manfred do?
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| 10:59 |
: Hides.
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| 10:59 |
: lol paul. You are chaotic neutral AF
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| 10:59 |
: The Beyonce fans would be hooked
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| 10:59 |
: Burn.
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| 10:59 |
: I’m relatively young, but I think I can safely say this is the best World Series I have ever seen.
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| 10:59 |
: 2011 was pretty lit too.
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| 10:59 |
: And last year.
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| 10:59 |
: Boxing analogies are everywhere in every sport
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| 11:00 |
: Yeah but they only suck when Joe Buck makes them.
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| 11:00 |
: WP: Forsythe .17, Gourriel .23, Bellinger .28, Altuve .34
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| 11:00 |
: I’d be a terrible announcer because I would just swear all the time at everything
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| 11:00 |
: This mad me laugh
yet another crisis for commissioner Manfred. first pitch of Game 6 is scheduled for twenty minutes from now
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| 11:00 |
: Jeff is funny.
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| 11:00 |
: Incorrect Bobby Richardson
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| 11:00 |
: bobby richardson, 1960. Only losing MVP.
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| 11:00 |
: Click the word “postseason” above a players stats for playoff stats.
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| 11:01 |
: Oh yeah. I always forget about that.
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| 11:01 |
: odds of Justin Verlander relief appearance?
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| 11:01 |
: Still low, I think.
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| 11:01 |
: Kershaw / Maeda / Keuchel / McHugh currently combine for a sparkling -1.116 WPA
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| 11:01 |
: Dodgers still have Kenley… But as we’ve seen, not 40-pitch Kenley
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| 11:01 |
: Tonight could be the night.
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| 11:01 |
: HOU needs a lefty reliever
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| 11:01 |
: Liriano?
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| 11:01 |
: 2001 was insane WS
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| 11:01 |
: Yup, that too.
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| 11:02 |
: how about chessboxing?
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| 11:02 |
: It’s a mystery.
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| 11:02 |
: i think the train whistle guy has a better job than bullpen catcher
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| 11:02 |
: Is a hot dog a sandwich?
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| 11:02 |
: NOT NOW TOMMY
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| 11:02 |
: McHugh STILL IN???
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| 11:02 |
: He sure is.
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| 11:03 |
: How many people are on this chat?
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| 11:03 |
: We’re up to 639 of the best people on the internet.
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| 11:03 |
: the postseason stats that are hard to find on fangraphs are team postseason stats
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| 11:04 |
: Yes, I have been whining about this internally.
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| 11:04 |
: Correct answer for best job in baseball: guy driving that freaking train around. He looks like he’s having more fun than I’ve had my entire life combined.
|
| 11:04 |
: for what it’s worth RE: Gurriel vs Pujols — statcast has Gurriel’s HR at 389 feet, 71% hit probability
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| 11:04 |
: This is a joke. MLB has most undoubtedly tinkered with the ball, and now we’re getting a joke of a WS where pitchers can’t even pitch.
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| 11:05 |
: Eh. Go with the flow.
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| 11:05 |
: Baseball sure looks hard sometimes
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| 11:05 |
: I usually play a game where I take a drink every time Joe Buck says something stupid. I stopped years ago for the sake of my liver.
|
| 11:05 |
: How good is this game?
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| 11:05 |
: Very good.
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| 11:05 |
: Ever since giving up the homer, McCugh has actually looked pretty sharp.
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| 11:05 |
: I think Nick V said this RIGHT before the walk to Pederson.
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| 11:06 |
: Caught the “Wu” reference
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| 11:06 |
: Come on now, this isn’t a Dave chat. 🙂
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| 11:06 |
: My thoughts re: McHugh. Why not leave him in at this point? Something something finishing returns on relievers
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| 11:06 |
: Are Kershaw’s debacles a mental thing or is it just bad luck?
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| 11:07 |
: I lean toward the latter, but I’m not sure how I’m supposed to know what goes on inside his head. Maybe he’ll write a book (or at least a Players’ Tribune article) someday.
|
| 11:07 |
: Banter between Smoltz and Buck seems to have completely ceased 3 innings ago…
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| 11:07 |
: They have banter?
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| 11:07 |
: Amazing game. But it’s also going to end around 1am on the east coast. MLB is very interested in pace of play issues, but basically ignores time of game issues. But between the length of commercial breaks and the number of pitching changes, the games are just running too long. What do you think of the Bill James solution: no commercial breaks for mid-inning pitching changes? Why should the networks get an unbargained for windfall from an increase in the number of pitching changes?
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| 11:08 |
: Preaching to the choir, Eric.
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| 11:08 |
: We are the ones chosen to survive the apocalypse
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| 11:08 |
: historical postseason game graphs also seem to have spotty coverage
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| 11:08 |
: How so?
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| 11:08 |
: Paul, do you administer chats by leeching off the wifi of restaurants like Cameron, or do you do it from home?
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| 11:08 |
: Hahaha. Home.
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| 11:08 |
: Too lazy to be anywhere else.
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| 11:08 |
: Am I wrong or wouldn’t it be better for T-Mobile to take the money they spend on all these ads and donate *that* to hurricane recovery?
|
| 11:09 |
: Depends on what you think T-Mobile’s motives are.
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| 11:09 |
: eh, I’m good with a 20-20 tie in 18 innings, you?
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| 11:09 |
: I’m good with that too, Bobby Tables.
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| 11:09 |
: um, games 3 and 4 were very reasonably pitched and game 1 more than that
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| 11:09 |
: Yup.
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| 11:09 |
: “This is like when they make the golf course super hard and the pros put up embarrassing scores”–upcoming Joe Buck analogy for the new baseballs
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| 11:10 |
: There are two ways to be a good announcer, in my opinion. One is to actually provide incisive, pithy commentary. That’s very hard to do. The other is to be well versed in the vernacular of the sport and steeped in its particular culture. It’s performative, a way of signaling group membership/affinity. I find it much easier to appreciate announcers when I keep in mind you can be good the second way, too.
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| 11:10 |
: Yeah but Buck is good in neither of those ways.
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| 11:10 |
: How many “The Ball is Juiced” articles are being published/posted tomorrow morning?
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| 11:10 |
: Zero, I hope. I don’t know if you all have noticed, but I’m tired of hearing about it.
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| 11:10 |
: Crazy prediction: Ken Giles is tonight’s winning pitcher
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| 11:11 |
: Ever since the homer, McHugh hasn’t been able to get a double play.
|
| 11:11 |
: Damn rally killing homers.
|
| 11:11 |
: Kershaw is a phony. Im sad to admit. Ace kver 1
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| 11:11 |
: Kershaw and Meryl Streep – just a couple of phoney baloneys.
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| 11:11 |
: Everyone knows the best job in baseball is working the call center for the Colorado Rockies.
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| 11:11 |
: Would you rather have McCarver?
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| 11:12 |
: Depends on which McCarver.
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| 11:12 |
: The McCarver of the 80s was insightful and witty. The McCarver of the 2000s was old and cranky.
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| 11:12 |
: Why do none of my messages ever get through to the chat?
|
| 11:12 |
: I don’t know, make better comments? 🙂
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| 11:12 |
: Agree that smoltz/buck have very little chemistry
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| 11:13 |
: No one has good chemistry with Joe Buck.
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| 11:13 |
: What’s the dave joke?
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| 11:13 |
: Dave doesn’t know anything about pop culture.
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| 11:13 |
: Hold on, need my laptop cord.
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| 11:15 |
: That’s a fun game though. I’m gonna ask Dave how many Wu-Tang members he can name at the Winter Meetings.
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| 11:16 |
: I’m a little behind but Mike Scott was a losing 1986 NLCS MVP
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| 11:16 |
: Bold strategy to inject a Game 5.5 into the WS this year. Lucky Maeda vs. McHugh agreed to it
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| 11:16 |
: Wasn’t Richard Nixon part of Wu-Tang? Or was that’s watergate? I can never remember
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| 11:16 |
: You’re close.
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| 11:16 |
: You guys are making me feel OLD… I’m gonna start throwing out Pink Floyd references
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| 11:17 |
: I like Pink Floyd.
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| 11:17 |
: Hell I can’t name a Wu-Tang song
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| 11:17 |
: Oy.
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| 11:17 |
: Important WS Question: What are your thoughts on Anthony Senzatela and Kyle Freeland? Mid-rotation starters? Back end guys or to the pen they go?
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| 11:17 |
: Senz – pen, Freeland – back end/mid end
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| 11:18 |
: This is the last night of my 2-week vacation. I need an extension!
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| 11:18 |
: Damn. Thanks for spending it with us!
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| 11:18 |
: Over/under Dave knowing two Wu Tang members?
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| 11:18 |
: I want to take the over.
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| 11:18 |
: Is Maeda a sleeper WS MVP pick?
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| 11:18 |
: Very sleeper.
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| 11:19 |
: Wu Tang clan isn’t pop culture anymore, it’s old man music now
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| 11:19 |
: It is. But it’s pop culture from Dave’s and my youth.
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| 11:19 |
: Also, don’t call me old, Ryan, you jerk.
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| 11:19 |
: under. Who is he getting other than ODB?
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| 11:20 |
: Method Man branched out into acting, I could see that. RZA too.
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| 11:20 |
: You thing Dave Cameron knows the Method Man is?
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| 11:20 |
: I’d be surprised, but not shocked.
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| 11:21 |
: This crowd is nuts right now. Cheering full counts with no one on base.
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| 11:21 |
: Watson! Somebody call Watson!
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| 11:21 |
: (That’s a children’s book joke)
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| 11:21 |
: Two things.
1. This WS is so fun I never want it to end. 2. How awesome do Charlie Morton and Alex Wood look now? |
| 11:21 |
: Wu-tang literally just released a new album..
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| 11:22 |
: They did, but as much as I liked it, it didn’t really push them back into the current music landscape. It was all throwback type stuff.
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| 11:22 |
: Jesus. Seriously? Smoltz is STILL lecturing about this?
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| 11:22 |
: When you only know one thing…
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| 11:22 |
: How old are you, Paul?
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| 11:22 |
: 38
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| 11:22 |
: Fangraphs is all about how decisions aren’t about results, they’re about the method, man
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| 11:23 |
: Evan Gattis the kinda guy to bring his bat with him to 1B on a walk
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| 11:23 |
: Did he do that? I didn’t see that.
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| 11:23 |
: Does Dave read the chat transcripts?
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| 11:23 |
: I don’t think Dave has ever read one of my chat transcripts. I’d have been fired on the count of stupidity a long time ago if he did.
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| 11:23 |
: Dave said that if one of his friends wore skinny jeans they’d be out of his friend circle
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| 11:24 |
: That sounds like something Dave would say.
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| 11:24 |
: Have you ever been to a WS, Paul? Just curious
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| 11:24 |
: I worked/atteneded the 2007 World Series when I worked for the Rockies.
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| 11:24 |
: Better World Series…This year or last year’s
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| 11:25 |
: This year has less Chief Wahoo and less Joe Maddon, so this year.
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| 11:25 |
: 38 is not old! Good lord
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| 11:25 |
: Thanks Neutral Nick.
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| 11:25 |
: I feel like ages 27-42 are all the same
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| 11:25 |
: Rude.
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| 11:25 |
: Well, it’s rude to 27 year olds.
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| 11:25 |
: On the baseball…it is interesting that the table with spin rates shows most avg. higher WS spin over Reg. Season, some beyond the S.D. A slicker ball would probably spin more, but axis of spin might be different? Yet pitchers claim it is slicker? Seems odd it is from both sides.
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| 11:26 |
: Can you run the bases with the bat?
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| 11:26 |
: I believe it is actually illegal to hold the bat past first base.
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| 11:26 |
: Actually “Wu-Tang” releases the album not “Wu-Tang Clan”, for whatever reason
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| 11:26 |
: Yeah it was deemed a compilation album and not a real LP.
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| 11:26 |
:
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| 11:27 |
: NotGraphs Fans ain’t nothing to f*ck with
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| 11:27 |
: It’s weird; this has been a relatively high scoring series, but the strike zone seems kinda big, too.
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| 11:27 |
: The more important question is have you ever worn skinney jeans?
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| 11:27 |
: Well, I’ve worn loose jeans that looked like skinny jeans because I was getting too fat for them. Does that count?
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| 11:28 |
: I love your hate for Maddon. I felt the same way before he managed my favorite team
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| 11:28 |
: It’s rude to 42 year olds…
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| 11:28 |
: That too!
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| 11:28 |
: I am 35 and am the official cranky old man at the office
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| 11:28 |
: Since neither team’s relievers have looked very good, would a team like the Yankees have cruised against the Dodgers if they had won game 7?
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| 11:28 |
: Cruised probably is the wrong word, but the Dodgers would have a harder time with that bullpen for sure.
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| 11:28 |
: I attended game 6 of the 2002 World Series. Unfortunately I was only 4 and don’t remember it at all.
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| 11:29 |
: I watched Game 6 of the 2002 World Series with a good friend of mine who was a Giants fan. I also watched Game 7 with him. I heckled him so much that he promised he would fly to whereever I was the next time the Red Sox had a big game and heckled me. And a year later, for Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS, he did. I had it coming. And I regret nothing.
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| 11:30 |
: Why don’t managers grow playoff beards?
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| 11:30 |
: I dunno. Damnit Jim, I’m just a baseball chat guy.
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| 11:30 |
: There are some interesting postseason stats over at www.thebaseballgauge.com/post.php – it breaks down the leverage of all postseason plays, and even compares those to the regular LI state, but adjusted for World Championship probability
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| 11:30 |
: this game is far too late. I have a job so need to sleep. My son saw 2 innings.
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| 11:31 |
: Yeah, my son didn’t watch one pitch tonight, but he’s also sick.
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| 11:31 |
: Just an FYI, it’s raining here a lot, and my lights keep flickering.
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| 11:31 |
: I feel like I shouldn’t lose power, but just in case I do, now you’ve been warned.
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| 11:32 |
: Do the TV announcers watch the game on a monitor or like a fan in the stands looking with their eyes at the field?
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| 11:32 |
: I think they mix it up.
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| 11:32 |
: I don’t like Maddon either, but what are your reasons Paul? I feel he’s overrated and tries to be hip versus actually use analytics well
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| 11:32 |
: Yes, those are my reasons.
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| 11:32 |
: Sorry about my 27-42 comment. I’m 32 and feel between those ages sometimes. It was pretty dumb, though.
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| 11:32 |
: Haha, it’s all good.
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| 11:32 |
: What’s your favorite MLB stadium to visit?
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| 11:33 |
: Besides Fenway and Coors? I really liked Petco. Citi Field was cool. I dunno, hard to think of that right now.
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| 11:33 |
: Do any managers have beards??
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| 11:33 |
: I can’t think of any off the top of my head…
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| 11:34 |
: Was the ’07 WS really weird for you as a Red Sox fan? Or when you’re working for a team does that overcome fandom?
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| 11:34 |
: It was basically the worst-case scenario.
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| 11:34 |
: The SuperBowl starts at like 6:30pm Eastern and ratings seem fine. Why don’t weekend World Series games do the same?
|
| 11:35 |
: Harder to do that when you don’t have a neutral site planned out way in advance like the Super Bowl. Apples and oranges, but they could certainly start at least an hour earlier. Or just start right at 8! I’d settle for that.
|
| 11:35 |
: The 8:20 start is BS.
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| 11:35 |
: Is there a chat contingency plan if you lose power?
|
| 11:35 |
: Nope.
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| 11:36 |
: Turner does not look good running.
|
| 11:36 |
: Wonder if they pinch run for him.
|
| 11:36 |
: I muted the Buck/Smoltz feed and put on 36 Chambers.
|
| 11:37 |
: That is a good way to protect ya neck.
|
| 11:37 |
: Ever been to target field, Paul?
|
| 11:37 |
: I haven’t. Target, PNC, AT&T and Safeco are at the top of a wish list I probably won’t get to fulfill for a few years.
|
| 11:37 |
: Peacock went 40 rounds after Kershaw in the 2006 draft
|
| 11:37 |
: Maddon has a beard
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| 11:38 |
: Mickey Calloway would be the first
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| 11:38 |
: Maddon has a beard!
|
| 11:38 |
: Mickey Callaway
|
| 11:38 |
: Why don’t managers wear suits?
|
| 11:38 |
: Tommy, get it together.
|
| 11:38 |
: Grizzly Adams had a beard.
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| 11:38 |
: Hahaha perfect.
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| 11:38 |
: Way to spit in your own beard Justin Turner. ?
|
| 11:38 |
: This is the 5 year anniversary of hurricane Sandy. On the Doppler it looks like he/she is back here in Boston.
|
| 11:39 |
: Does Manfred have the power to mandate all ballparks to use “Peacock” by Katy Perry as Peacock’s entrance music?
|
| 11:39 |
: Uh
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| 11:39 |
: WHY ARE YOU BUNTING
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| 11:39 |
: God what a stupid call.
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| 11:39 |
: Beyond it being a stupid call, Turner barely had a lead. Stupid call, worse execution.
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| 11:40 |
:
 (Bear Evidence for Dave Martinez)
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| 11:40 |
: FWIW, Fox’s NFL deal has something to do with today’s start time…
|
| 11:40 |
: Right. MLB always bows to FOX.
|
| 11:40 |
: Time to buy a generator.
|
| 11:40 |
: Yeah, and some survival rations too, right?
|
| 11:41 |
: OH!
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| 11:41 |
: Springer saw Turner’s poor execution and asked him to hold his beer.
|
| 11:42 |
: Springer misjudged that one pretty badly. The second it went to his side he was in BIG TROUBLE.
|
| 11:42 |
: Are baseball uniforms comfortable? Seems like a lot of heavy-ish fabric to do athletic moves in
|
| 11:42 |
: They are these days. It’s all microfiber.
|
| 11:42 |
: Terrible Springer.
|
| 11:42 |
: WOW
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| 11:42 |
: Oh wow
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| 11:42 |
: Ohhh noooooooo
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| 11:43 |
: Supposed to block that with your cap!
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| 11:43 |
: Hahaha Adam
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| 11:43 |
: What was Springer thinking?
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| 11:43 |
: should have worn the bigger hat
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| 11:43 |
: Both sides are trading bad decisions/plays.
|
| 11:43 |
: SPRINGER WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL
|
| 11:43 |
: What?
|
| 11:43 |
: Springer nooooo
|
| 11:43 |
: In Springer’s defense, that was a super weird swing from Bellinger, and it came off his bat funny. But if Springer just lets it drop, it’s first and second.
|
| 11:43 |
: Mark it down: Joe Buck and Paul Swydan actually agreed about something.
|
| 11:43 |
: Don’t do that.
|
| 11:44 |
: I bet we also both agree that breathing air is good.
|
| 11:44 |
: I thought it could have been a home run….
|
| 11:44 |
: Why do you sell out there in that situation?
|
| 11:44 |
: He thought he had it.
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| 11:44 |
: It’s that kind of confidence that makes him a great player, etc etc.
|
| 11:45 |
: Oh man, Forysthe almost did something regrettable there and then got a hold of himself.
|
| 11:45 |
: Bellinger helping his MVP case
|
| 11:45 |
: I think they would prefer cotton.
|
| 11:45 |
: Wearing a belt seems so formal
|
| 11:45 |
: inside the parker for Buxton?
|
| 11:45 |
: Probably.
|
| 11:46 |
: Sports Illustrated cover jinks looms large over Springer
|
| 11:46 |
: 17 full counts tonight per Matt
|
| 11:46 |
: 17 full counts tonight.
|
| 11:46 |
: I just lost power !
|
| 11:46 |
: Uh oh.
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| 11:46 |
: Paul and Joe are also mainly carbon and water
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| 11:46 |
: If you’re Morrow and you are *finally* healthy and looking at a big payday, are you upset to be worked to death in the postseason?
|
| 11:47 |
: I dunno. I’d hope he wants the ring.
|
| 11:48 |
: But it actually serves a function to hold the pants up, it’s not for show only
|
| 11:48 |
: Yeah, for sure.
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| 11:48 |
: I can’t believe we’re talking about uniforms and manager’s beards during a game like this
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| 11:48 |
: I like to mix it up, Pat.
|
| 11:49 |
: Odds 8-7 is the final score?
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| 11:49 |
: Low.
|
| 11:49 |
: I live in central CT and Direct TV has gone down at least 10 times, along with two brief power outages.
|
| 11:49 |
: Yikes.
|
| 11:49 |
: How does anyone lay off anything with two strikes tonight? They’re all strikes.
|
| 11:49 |
: As long as Morrow doesn’t get hurt in the next 3 games does it actually matter?
|
| 11:50 |
: Well, it might if he blows out next May.
|
| 11:50 |
: BTW, I told you we’d see Morrow.
|
| 11:50 |
: That’s not a lot of pitches per outing.
|
| 11:50 |
: Paul has an underrated weird chat
|
| 11:51 |
: Odds the game ends within 1 hour?
|
| 11:51 |
: Low. Super low.
|
| 11:51 |
: FIRST PITCH.
|
| 11:51 |
: WOW.
|
| 11:51 |
: Springer wanted that run back!
|
| 11:51 |
: WHY DOES BUCK ALWAYS SAY “HALL OF FAMER” JOHN SMOLTZ
|
| 11:51 |
: Because he’s a kiss @$$.
|
| 11:51 |
: The storm in Boston is insane RN. Flooding with terrible wind.
|
| 11:51 |
: So it seems. Fingers crossed.
|
| 11:51 |
: Morrow has made $27 mil in his career. I bet he wants a ring.
|
| 11:51 |
: Morrow, barring an implosion, might be MVP.
|
| 11:52 |
: Oops.
|
| 11:52 |
: Brandon “See You (to)Morrow”
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| 11:52 |
: Paul, can you coach UMass baseball? there is vacancy and we are struggling
|
| 11:52 |
: You don’t want that.
|
| 11:52 |
: WHAAAAAAT???????
|
| 11:52 |
: Shouldn’t have pitched morrow.
|
| 11:52 |
: Springer redemption
|
| 11:52 |
: WOWWWWWWWWWWW
|
| 11:52 |
: Bananas
|
| 11:52 |
: GTFO
|
| 11:52 |
: JESUS WHAT KIND OF GAME IS THIS
|
| 11:52 |
: can’t stop won’t stop
|
| 11:52 |
: it’s the 7th inning and my set top box reached 4 hours of inactivity
|
| 11:52 |
: well, at least morrow is efficient
|
| 11:53 |
: So that’s what -1 DRS into +1 wRC looks like
|
| 11:53 |
: My wife to me just now: “Those guys are meant to be just voices, not real people. Why are they showing them in the booth?”
|
| 11:53 |
: Train driver earning his keep!
|
| 11:53 |
: Man I’d love to be that train conductor!
|
| 11:53 |
: Springer means “run” in Swedish.
|
| 11:53 |
: Going out on a limb…over 400 ft.
|
| 11:53 |
: spring dong
|
| 11:53 |
: That train job looks really kick ass
|
| 11:54 |
: 112 mph, 448 feet, 99% hit probability
|
| 11:54 |
: How is it not 100%?
|
| 11:54 |
: Was the other 1% from the Polo Grounds?
|
| 11:54 |
: Jansen for 3 innings anyone?
|
| 11:54 |
: 5 out of 6 days pitching is too much
|
| 11:54 |
: Lindor moment from Springer. Wow.
|
| 11:54 |
: Pull him
|
| 11:54 |
: Let’s play two!
|
| 11:54 |
: PUT ME IN COACH,
|
| 11:55 |
: As good of a throw and route as Pederson took on the ball earlier, that route and throw was embarrassing. They had a shot to get Bregman with a good relay throw.
|
| 11:55 |
: Paul should I just go to sleep right now and be totally surprised what the final score is tomorrow when I wake up.
|
| 11:56 |
: Yes?
|
| 11:56 |
: Minute Maid pyrotechnics is WS MVP
|
| 11:56 |
: Surprised Morrow is still in.
|
| 11:56 |
: Gotta get him out.
|
| 11:56 |
: I was wrong – he’s got nothing.
|
| 11:56 |
: I had a bowl of ice cream like four hours ago the game was starting.
|
| 11:56 |
: Do you think the train conductor tells people he’s an engineer?
|
| 11:56 |
: I would.
|
| 11:56 |
: “train operator is in over-drive”…WTF does that mean?
|
| 11:57 |
: It made sense to Joe Buck.
|
| 11:57 |
: JESUS HORACE CHRIST
|
| 11:57 |
: Choo choo!
|
| 11:57 |
: SCREW IT BRING IN GILES FOR THE 6 OUT SAVE!
|
| 11:57 |
: MORE
|
| 11:57 |
: Fenway park home run
|
| 11:57 |
: Man, Morrow blows
|
| 11:57 |
: Roberts should feel bad.
|
| 11:57 |
: Baseball!
|
| 11:57 |
: Everyone on this chat, whatever your job is, imagine that you make a huge mistake in the biggest moment of your career and everyone knows it and 45 seconds later you have to perform at the highest level in the second or maybe new biggest moment of your career.
|
| 11:57 |
: WHAT IN THE WORLD
|
| 11:58 |
: They might have to gas up that train
|
| 11:58 |
: so this is something
|
| 11:58 |
: At some point, it’s our fault for continuing to be surprised by home runs
|
| 11:58 |
: Morrow has pitched in 12 of 13 games, couldnt expect him to have anything
|
| 11:58 |
: dave please take him out
|
| 11:58 |
: Minute Maid Park special
|
| 11:58 |
: Fun fact: Bregman just passed koufax as best jewish baseball player ever
|
| 11:58 |
: Hank Greenberg can’t get in that convo?
|
| 11:58 |
: Wow. As a Yankee fan, please don’t complain about Yankee Stadium home runs ever again.
|
| 11:58 |
: YOU GET A HOMERUN! AND YOU GET A HOMERUN! EVERYONE GETS A HOOOOOOMMERRRRUUUNNNN!
|
| 11:58 |
: I’m in overdrive, guys!
|
| 11:58 |
: Ok maybe Morrow didn’t want to pitch
|
| 11:58 |
: what is the hit expectancy on that?
|
| 11:58 |
: holy cannoli
|
| 11:58 |
: And a good Morrow to you sir
|
| 11:58 |
: he hit that at FORTY EIGHT DEGREES
|
| 11:59 |
: 4 runs on 6 pitches, coming in to a clean inning. Is that a Ws record?
|
| 11:59 |
: Is that not what Giles’ line was just last night?
|
| 11:59 |
: Maybe he threw more than 6 pitches.
|
| 11:59 |
: Clayton Kershaw and Dallas Keuchel started this game.
|
| 11:59 |
: Seems like a totally different game.
|
| 12:00 |
: Do people think this 3 run lead is safe?
|
| 12:00 |
: Something has to be.
|
| 12:01 |
: BTW, the person who said bring in Kenley for the big bats in the 7th – you were right. Tell your sister, you were righhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.
|
| 12:01 |
: For anyone not aware, https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/gamefeed?game_pk=526515&type=exit_veloc… is a great in game resource for EV and Hit Expectancy
|
| 12:01 |
: Giles threw 8 pitches I think
|
| 12:01 |
: Altuve’s vertical leap is 1 George Springer
|
| 12:01 |
: alpha309: 11% hit probability
|
| 12:01 |
: 12 of 13 games is right – Roberts should’ve known better.
|
| 12:02 |
: Wow they haven’t cancelled The Orville yet?
|
| 12:02 |
: I can’t possibly be worse right?
|
| 12:02 |
: 4 runs on 6 pitches.
I’ve never seen anything like it. |
| 12:02 |
: I am starting to feel Houston pulls this game out somehow
|
| 12:02 |
: Me too.
|
| 12:02 |
: Gotta be devenski, right?
|
| 12:02 |
: I go to him next, and let him go until he can’t go no ‘mo.
|
| 12:02 |
: Is it safe to go to bed now?
|
| 12:02 |
: Nope.
|
| 12:03 |
: that Star Wars reference was impressive Paul. Most impressive
|
| 12:03 |
: (curtsies neatly)
|
| 12:03 |
: 3 runs is never safe…just getting safer. Only 2.5hrs left in this game so anything can happen.
|
| 12:04 |
: The Orville is great! Way better than Discovery
|
| 12:04 |
: I haven’t watched either show but I know that is incorrect.
|
| 12:04 |
: Fox loves Seth McFarland, he has made them a ton of money. Orville will get the full season
|
| 12:04 |
: Yeah, I know.
|
| 12:04 |
: I said that about Kenley. You have to bring him in there. Its the most important situation in the game. Top of the order, up 1.
|
| 12:04 |
: Good call, STL.
|
| 12:05 |
: crazy keeps on coming http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?date=2017-10-29&team=Astros&dh=…
|
| 12:05 |
: Weird they seem to be advertising it as a drama now.
|
| 12:05 |
: Maybe that’s the problem. It was supposed to be satire, or was originally positioned as satire. Either way, I have no interest in watching a Star Trek knockoff.
|
| 12:06 |
: Do you think there will be advanced stats for pitchers based on velocity movement and location? If so, how soon?
|
| 12:06 |
: No idea.
|
| 12:06 |
: Really wan’t fair to Morrow.
|
| 12:06 |
: No, it wasn’t.
|
| 12:06 |
: Orville has been much better than Discovery. How can you possibly say otherwise if you havent seen either?
|
| 12:06 |
: Because one has Seth McFarlane’s ugly face?
|
| 12:07 |
: The new Star Trek movies and Discovery are the actual Star Trek knockoffs.
|
| 12:07 |
: Wow you guys are pretty adamant about this.
|
| 12:07 |
: Uncle.
|
| 12:07 |
: Is Dave tuning up another “In Defense of Dave Roberts”?
|
| 12:07 |
: I doubt it.
|
| 12:07 |
: -.594 WPA for Morrow. Brutal.
|
| 12:07 |
: Orville is not good
|
| 12:08 |
: Anyone else switching over to Curb?
|
| 12:08 |
: That show is also dumb.
|
| 12:08 |
: Come at me bro.
|
| 12:08 |
: How is this a Star Trek chat now in the same inning with 3 HRs
|
| 12:08 |
: Cingrani looking fine. Maybe start the inning with the relatively fresh reliever, if the game is going to be high-scoring anyway…
|
| 12:08 |
: Esp since Cingrani has been a starter before. He doesn’t have to be just a specialist.
|
| 12:09 |
: At least not when everything else is failing.
|
| 12:09 |
: if peacock gets a win tonight and goes a couple more innings what are his chances at mvp if the astros win the series?
|
| 12:09 |
: No, if the Astros win, it’ll be Altuve.
|
| 12:09 |
: There’s no book for how to manage this way. Every decision has to be made without much context to fall back on. If 70% of your decisions were right, that would be high.
|
| 12:09 |
: Are you a proponent of shorter seasons? As fun as these games have been, it’s frustrating seeing so many good relievers limp to the finish line.
|
| 12:09 |
: Nope.
|
| 12:09 |
: You guys ever go on a diet, then 47 days in go to Pismo beach for a wedding, eat 4 tacos, waffles, a tri tip sandwich, a pulled pork sandwich, fries, Chicken nuggets, a burger, fries, taquitos, 6 chocolate chip cookies, donuts, a Snickers, and copious amounts of wine? Brandon Morrow and I share a feeling right now
|
| 12:10 |
: Hahaha
|
| 12:10 |
: only 3 TV shows worth anything ever: Jeopardy – Archer – Blackadder
|
| 12:10 |
: I’ve never even heard of Blackadder. Did you just make that up?
|
| 12:10 |
: -.594 in just four batters must be the record for the modern era.
|
| 12:10 |
: Boston people don’t like Seinfeld because they don’t get it
|
| 12:10 |
: What? I love Seinfeld. I literally own every season on DVD. Get out of here with that garbage.
|
| 12:11 |
: Only show I would watch over this is archer
|
| 12:11 |
: Agree 100%…Larry David should not perform his own comedy.
|
| 12:11 |
: Do “chicks still dig the long-ball” or are they tired of it?
|
| 12:11 |
: Fire up a new Nike ad!
|
| 12:11 |
: Seems like a mistake to go back to Peacock after such a long inning.
|
| 12:11 |
: How could anyone switch this off? Just watch your HBO shows tomorrow!
|
| 12:12 |
: Altuve came into tonight with a .536 OPS in the series. needs a big game 6 too possibly
|
| 12:12 |
: Altuve, or Springer, or Correa. It won’t be Peacock, promise. Just trust me on this.
|
| 12:12 |
: Back several hours to bullpen catchers: aren’t bullpen catchers and coaches supposed to notice and pass info along if a pitcher just doesn’t have it warming up?
|
| 12:12 |
: Yes, they are.
|
| 12:12 |
: Will Jensen still come in no matter the score?
|
| 12:12 |
: Tough to say.
|
| 12:13 |
: TV is overrated, and for old people.
|
| 12:13 |
: Wow, now THAT’S a take.
|
| 12:13 |
: Blackadder was awesome. Fawlty even better!
|
| 12:13 |
: Blackadder is hilarious!!!
|
| 12:13 |
: From Boston, love Seinfeld
|
| 12:13 |
: i still think the bunt was dave roberts’ most unforgivable mistake of the night
|
| 12:13 |
: Simpsons prime over Archer
|
| 12:13 |
: Just barely.
|
| 12:13 |
: One of the greatest, well let’s agree most exciting games ever played, in a great series and the chat is about TV shows???
|
| 12:14 |
: WOW what a late strike 3 call.
|
| 12:14 |
: It was a strike on Gameday but make the call a little quicker.
|
| 12:14 |
: It’s a strike on replay. Barnes had to swing at that.
|
| 12:15 |
: 65 called strikes tonight.
|
| 12:15 |
: I think the Fox zone may be small, some of the egregious calls in real time look like strikes on replay
|
| 12:16 |
: I’ve been checking close calls on Gameday. The FOX zone is NOT the same as Gameday, and I agree it looks smaller.
|
| 12:16 |
: Side view made it clearly look like a strike. Right at the knees of Barnes.
|
| 12:16 |
: Yup.
|
| 12:16 |
: A generous strike zone and 19 runs so far. Inconceivable!
|
| 12:16 |
: The zone isnt as bad as the tv is making it, but his late “strike 3” calls seem outrageous
|
| 12:16 |
: Agreed.
|
| 12:17 |
: Do you think the fox zone takes into account the slight camera offset? The view is not from straight on center
|
| 12:17 |
: I mean, I hope so?
|
| 12:17 |
: Can we talk in only star wars references the rest of the night?
|
| 12:17 |
: Don’t try to fit me inside your little box!
|
| 12:18 |
: Joe Buck always quick to torch a guy who didn’t hustle.
|
| 12:18 |
: Shut the hell up, he wouldn’t be on third.
|
| 12:19 |
: You’re not making that out at third down three runs.
|
| 12:19 |
: It’s like he’s never watched a goddamn baseball game before.
|
| 12:19 |
: Never tell me the odds!
|
| 12:19 |
: Are helmet chin guards getting more popular, or are these players an abberation from normal?
|
| 12:19 |
: Both.
|
| 12:20 |
: That was a very weird attempt to catch that ball.
|
| 12:20 |
: Pederson needs to be standing on third. Inexcusable
|
| 12:20 |
: Don’t agree at all. You’re discounting completely Gonzalez’s posture there. If he saw Pederson trying to extend for three, he would have sprinted after the ball, and Pederson would have been out.
|
| 12:21 |
: Gonzalez had the luxury of walking to the ball, because the play was right in front of him.
|
| 12:21 |
: Terribad read by Gonzalez. That hit the wall an entire body length over his head.
|
| 12:21 |
: Disagree. He’s at third standing.
|
| 12:22 |
: Joe Buck almost lost his voice due to an infection from hairplugs. He’s a bitter fellow.
|
| 12:22 |
: Is that true?
|
| 12:22 |
: The point is the process, not the results. It’s the damn WORLD SERIES — run the ball out!
|
| 12:22 |
: I guess, guys. Whatever.
|
| 12:22 |
: He would have been halfway to second by the time that ball hit the track. Are you blind?
|
| 12:23 |
: I submit that he wouldn’t have tried to go three no matter what. You can’t risk making that out at third, and it’s a super short throw from there.
|
| 12:23 |
: If it’s a one-run game, I concede the point. It wasn’t.
|
| 12:23 |
: And just like that, the potential tying run is on second.
|
| 12:24 |
: Regardless, joc still a dumbass for enjoying his hit
|
| 12:24 |
: Why make excuses? If Pederson runs it out, then there’s no discussion.
|
| 12:24 |
: Just no way he gets to third. Ridiculous
|
| 12:24 |
: Make it a poll!
|
| 12:24 |
: OK.
|
| 12:24 |
:
Do you think Joc Pederson would have reached third base safely on his hit?
Yes (37.6% | 132 votes)
No (49.5% | 174 votes)
I can’t decide! (12.8% | 45 votes)
Total Votes: 351
|
| 12:25 |
: Hair plugs is true
|
| 12:25 |
: Wow. Crazy.
|
| 12:25 |
: Joe Buck should have been Lebanese like me, then he wouldn’t need hair plugs.
|
| 12:26 |
: soups on the stove…cause the dodgers are cooking!
|
| 12:26 |
: jesus these bullpens
|
| 12:26 |
: Jensen in 8th no matter what, right?
|
| 12:26 |
: Gotta be, now.
|
| 12:26 |
: OH WOW, Taylor might have scored there. Throw was in the base line, but if Taylor gets past he’s scoring standing up.
|
| 12:27 |
:
Does Chris Taylor score if he runs all the way on that fly out?
Yes (65.6% | 243 votes)
No (20.5% | 76 votes)
I can’t decide! (13.7% | 51 votes)
Total Votes: 370
|
| 12:27 |
: I think Taylor scores there, but it was a good hold
|
| 12:27 |
: I’m brushing my teeth, are you doing a non-baseball thing now?
|
| 12:27 |
: Paul, you’re being obstinate. Pederson didn’t KNOW what the carom would be. Just run! And decide once you get to second.
|
| 12:28 |
: If it gets to 11-10 (not 11-11), I think you have to consider warming up Verlander. Who else are you going to rely on to close at this point?
|
| 12:28 |
: Devenski has been fine.
|
| 12:28 |
: Plus if Verlander wasn’t planning on throwing, it’s hard to get him up at this juncture.
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| 12:29 |
: Both are true: 99% of the time he should hold at 2nd. Also he should run it out
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| 12:29 |
: there have been 3 world series games so far where both teams reached double digits
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| 12:29 |
: Like, ever? Which ones?
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| 12:30 |
: Oh wow Taylor misheard!
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| 12:30 |
: NO WAY
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| 12:30 |
: Devenski vs. Ethier, just like we drew this up 4 hours ago.
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| 12:31 |
: Nice of Ethier to swing at everything.
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| 12:31 |
: Yeesh.
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| 12:31 |
: Thank you for always putting “I can’t decide!” as an option.
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| 12:31 |
: Deciding is hard. This should be a fun chat.
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| 12:32 |
: Verander is pitching a complete game on Tuesday. Win or lose.
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| 12:32 |
: yup
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| 12:33 |
: Pederson did it last year too http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2016/10/16/205794312/dodgers-joc-pederson-put…
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| 12:33 |
: Yeah he’s maybe not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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| 12:33 |
: Great work Fox! You totally redeemed yourself
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| 12:33 |
: They really did.
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| 12:34 |
: The rare actual on the field insight.
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| 12:34 |
: B-R used to show you how many results there were and let you see #10-20, now they don’t tell you the # of results
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| 12:34 |
: I thought you said spider I’m okay
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| 12:34 |
: Hahaha
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| 12:34 |
: Should have different words instead of GO or NO, my god
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| 12:34 |
: Yeah.
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| 12:34 |
: Well, even if they do, he could still mishear.
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| 12:35 |
: Like, “run” could be “don’t test his gun.” Or something.
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| 12:36 |
: Wow. What else can you say about this game??????
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| 12:36 |
: Yes he McCann.
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| 12:36 |
: Also, I had to look at Gameday to check that that was really McCann and not Gattis. They look identical.
|
| 12:36 |
: 29 — Toronto (15) at Philadelphia (14), Game 4, 1993
25 — Florida (14) at Cleveland (11), Game 3, 1997 21 — San Francisco (10) at Anaheim (11), Game 2, 2002 |
| 12:37 |
: Paul, how many of us are still in here??
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| 12:37 |
: 692. I love every single one of you.
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| 12:37 |
: You’d think they’d just say “yes” or “run.”
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| 12:37 |
: You would. I hope someone asks about this.
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| 12:38 |
: It’s kind of hard to misinterpret “yes” or “no”
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| 12:38 |
: GO vs STAY. Not that hard
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| 12:38 |
: Red light – Green light
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| 12:38 |
: Roberts had a bad game, right?
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| 12:39 |
: Neither manager has covered themselves with glory, but so many crazy things have happened, that it feels hard to rake either of them through the coals.
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| 12:39 |
: I’m sorry guys, what was the insight? I have the sound off and I was talking to my wife
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| 12:39 |
: When Taylor was on third, and the ball was hit to Reddick, 3B coach Chris Woodward yelled “go go go!” but Taylor said he heard “no no no!”
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| 12:40 |
: RED and GREEN make a lot of sense, and hard to misunderstand what the intent is
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| 12:40 |
: “Run” I thought you said “Do you want a cinnamon bun”
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| 12:40 |
: Hand signals?
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| 12:40 |
: No, can’t be looking at the coach. Not enough time for that.
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| 12:40 |
: Go and Stay should be the words
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| 12:40 |
: McCann off a frickin lefty?
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| 12:40 |
: This is ridiculous
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| 12:40 |
: Why is Jansen not pitching? Am I missing something?
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| 12:40 |
: GO / NO came into play in the ’75 WS, too. George Foster threw out someone at home, coach meant him to stay. I think it set up the Fisk HR.
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| 12:41 |
: Cool.
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| 12:41 |
: Against a lefty! My big bearded boy!
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| 12:41 |
: And with that, I am going to sleep/
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| 12:41 |
: “Go” and “stop”
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| 12:41 |
: You know its going bad when Brian McCann hits a HR off you.
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| 12:41 |
: McCann off a lefty. The sun might rise in the west tomorrow.
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| 12:41 |
: So Verlander is a sure thing to win Game 6 like Kershaw was a sure thing tonight, right?
|
| 12:41 |
: Right.
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| 12:42 |
: You know, Paul…I had thought this whole “different ball in the World Series” stuff said by Verlander and others was garbage…but I am starting to become convinced. These guys are teeing off like the pitcher – any pitcher! – was throwing batting practice.
|
| 12:42 |
: I have to get up in … um … 5-3/4 hours.
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| 12:42 |
: Ssshhhhhh. That’s a TOMORROW problem.
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| 12:43 |
: Someone will get 27 outs in game six and I have no idea how
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| 12:43 |
: McCarthy! Fields! Liriano! Gregerson! It’s Game 6, on FOX!
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| 12:44 |
: This game now two hours longer than game one was.
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| 12:44 |
: I have to get up in three hours
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| 12:44 |
: Sssh, that’s a three hours from now problem.
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| 12:44 |
: My little league coach used to wildly spin his arms and yell “go” for go and lay on the ground and yell “stop” for stop. Worked like a charm.
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| 12:44 |
: Again, he wasn’t looking at the coach there. That part wouldn’t have mattered.
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| 12:44 |
: Roberts’ biggest mistakes were the bunt (and the poor execution of Kike and Turner to top it off) and overusing Morrow to the point where he had nothing left in the tank
|
| 12:45 |
: Leaving for the airport in 4 hours. About to be a TODAY problem.
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| 12:45 |
: Soooooooooooooo Salty.
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| 12:45 |
: pitching in a cooler LA should be better, right?
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| 12:45 |
: LA was like 90-100 for Games 1-2. Not sure they’ll be cooler?
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| 12:45 |
: My girlfriend thinks I watch too much baseball…any suggestions?
|
| 12:46 |
: My trick has always been to promise the Mrs. full control of the remote for November and December.
|
| 12:46 |
: BRB bathroom break.
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| 12:48 |
: OK I’m back. Devenski gets first crack at the save.
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| 12:48 |
: Here we gooooooo
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| 12:48 |
: LA Tuesday forecast: high 68, low 59. Should be better
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| 12:48 |
: Oh OK.
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| 12:48 |
: Hey, just two walks and a HR away from a competitive game! Odds are good!
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| 12:48 |
: Seems like Roberts’ biggest mistake was Morrow over Jansen up 1 against 1-2-3
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| 12:48 |
: Pinch it off, Paul, inning is starting!
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| 12:48 |
: Tough crowd.
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| 12:49 |
: full control of the remote, or >1 TV like everyone else in America!
|
| 12:49 |
: Jason B lives a privileged life.
|
| 12:49 |
: November? seems like it could be a pretty big loophole for her on Tuesday
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| 12:49 |
: The World Series typically doesn’t end in November.
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| 12:49 |
: Roberts’ biggest mistake was having Hernandez bunt, mostly because that was the least defensible
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| 12:49 |
: Kudos to these bullpens for making it interesting, for a second there I thought the Astros might be able to close it out without drama
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| 12:50 |
: To everybody who thinks that starters can now be routinely lifted after 4 or 5 innings, this shows that relievers cannot be treated like robots.
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| 12:50 |
: It’s true. The cats let me have the remote, I gave them the electric blanket. Everyone wins.
|
| 12:50 |
: Hahaha.
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| 12:50 |
: At least Rich Hill is a good bet to soak up innings, right?
|
| 12:50 |
: Oh ya.
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| 12:50 |
: At least there have been enough coaching visits to the mound that Fox is out of commercials
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| 12:50 |
: Well played.
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| 12:50 |
: Roberts biggest mistake was taking the job and being forced to make decisions that may lead to mistakes.
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| 12:51 |
: The Hernandez bunt was ridiculous because there was no way it was going to be a one run game
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| 12:51 |
: Right.
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| 12:51 |
: Chris Devenski is the hero we deserve
|
| 12:51 |
: That was a pretty terrible at bat
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| 12:51 |
: Devinski looks really relaxed. I wonder if he watched the previous eight innings…
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| 12:52 |
: Nice shot of Kenley watching from the bullpen.
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| 12:52 |
: All I want for Christmas is a Puig dinger
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| 12:52 |
: Paul … the Hernandez bunt was defensible ONLY if Roberts had Jansen up and ready to go for the inning start. Since he didnt, the bunt was indefensible
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| 12:52 |
: If this is the end, thanks for hanging in there with us Paul
|
| 12:52 |
: OH SECTION329 YOU SAUCY MINX YOU
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| 12:52 |
: This game WILL. NOT. DIE.
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| 12:53 |
: DOINK
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| 12:53 |
: Merry Christmas!
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| 12:53 |
: THIS. GAME.
|
| 12:53 |
: Matt gets his Christmas early
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| 12:53 |
: Merry Christmas!
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| 12:53 |
: Bring in Liriano.
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| 12:53 |
: Merry Christmas Matt
|
| 12:53 |
: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
|
| 12:53 |
: This is a joke
|
| 12:53 |
: as if it could end any other way
|
| 12:53 |
: chaotic neutral fans unite
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| 12:53 |
: Holy holy
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| 12:53 |
: Omfg
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| 12:53 |
: Same as a single, though.
|
| 12:53 |
: Thanks Matt
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| 12:53 |
: Merry Christmas Matt!
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| 12:53 |
: That HR was ridiculous
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| 12:53 |
: How. Does. That. Go. out.
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| 12:53 |
: This stadium is a joke to left, seriously
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| 12:53 |
: He barely got it.
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| 12:53 |
: Now that Talyor play really hurts
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| 12:54 |
: No no no? I said go go go. fml
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| 12:54 |
: Live by the cheap Homer… Die by the cheap homer
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| 12:54 |
: well that does it. homer killed the rally. time to go
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| 12:54 |
: Game 2 looks like a snooze fest at this point
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| 12:54 |
: I jinxed it
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| 12:54 |
: you have to warm up Giles, no?
|
| 12:54 |
: Yes?
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| 12:54 |
: Devenski still seems fine to me.
|
| 12:54 |
: Puig really didn’t hit that that hard.
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| 12:55 |
: Guess the yankees bullpen did ok vs the astros in hindsight
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| 12:55 |
: And now the fourth game in WS history with both teams hitting double digit runs.
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| 12:55 |
: Devenski has released all his stress into that wad of Bubblicious.
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| 12:55 |
: we’re gonna be here till christmas…
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| 12:55 |
: What a gutsy run by Barnes.
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| 12:55 |
: See, if Pederson had run that hard he’s have been on third easy! (ducks)
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| 12:56 |
: lol 5 games in and already the most HR in WS history
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| 12:56 |
: big mistake was Jensen not in the 8th. otherwise it’s probably tied….
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| 12:56 |
: In the words of Mr. Puig, “F*cking baby stadium”
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| 12:56 |
: WHERES CULBERSON WHEN YOU NEED HIM???
|
| 12:56 |
: did a fan steal the ball from the fan who caught it and throw it back?
|
| 12:56 |
: Ugh, gross.
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| 12:56 |
: What a dick, grabbing the ball from his friend and throwing it back
|
| 12:57 |
: Pitching has combined for -1.760 WPA (after Puig HR)
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| 12:57 |
: As a Cards fan who remembers the NLCS’s back in the mid-2000s, yeah, the Crawford Boxes are a joke.
|
| 12:57 |
: Best part time player in the game yo
|
| 12:57 |
: Tying run on third with two outs. So much DRAMA.
|
| 12:58 |
: I love this World Series
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| 12:58 |
: Can America have a sick day tomorrow?
|
| 12:58 |
: Remember when Kershaw had a four run lead? Because I don’t.
|
| 12:58 |
: Vaguely.
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| 12:58 |
: SUICIDE SQUEEZE!
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| 12:59 |
: This WS is the bee’s knees.
|
| 12:59 |
: Tie on a passed ball???
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| 12:59 |
: Kershaw retired back in the 7th inning this game is so long
|
| 12:59 |
: So what bat
This game deserves a game tying balk when Devenski trips over a bird mid-delivery.
<script async src=”https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js” charset=”utf-8″></script> |
| 12:59 |
: Suicide squeeze?
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| 12:59 |
: Don’t balk!
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| 12:59 |
: Gimme a balk
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| 12:59 |
: only hrs!!
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| 12:59 |
: That was on the corner!
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| 12:59 |
: Huge call, swinging from 1-2 to 2-1.
|
| 1:00 |
: Gameday has it on the corner too.
|
| 1:00 |
: IS CHRIS TAYLOR RELATED TO JAKE TAYLOR FROM MAJOR LEAGUE LETS FIND OUT
|
| 1:00 |
: HOLY SHIT
|
| 1:00 |
: AND NOW KENLEY CAN GET UP TO PITCH.
|
| 1:01 |
: JUST LIKE ROBERTS DREW IT UP
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| 1:01 |
: jesus h christ
|
| 1:01 |
: Welp.
|
| 1:01 |
: YES YES YES
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| 1:01 |
: OHHHHH MY GOODNESSSSS
|
| 1:01 |
: OMG
|
| 1:01 |
: Unreal!
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| 1:01 |
: WOWOWOWOW
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| 1:01 |
: IT WILL NEVER END!
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| 1:03 |
:
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| 1:04 |
: DONT FORGET YOURE HERE FOREVER
|
| 1:04 |
: The Joe Buck “Heat Death of The Universe” Tweet seems apropos now.
|
| 1:04 |
: They ran out of commercials
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| 1:04 |
: I am 35 years old and played and watched baseball my entire life. This is the best baseball game I have ever seen.
|
| 1:04 |
: SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK
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| 1:04 |
: WEIRD BASEBALL GET YOUR ICE CREAM!
|
| 1:04 |
: guys I need to sleep.
|
| 1:04 |
: Oh no, Paul’s power went out 🙁
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| 1:05 |
: Sorry I was looking for that picture lol.
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| 1:05 |
: if devenski’s motion doesn’t carry him off the mound he may stop that ball
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| 1:05 |
: watch Jensen give up a gopher 1st pitch to end the game….
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| 1:05 |
: It can still end in the ninth
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| 1:05 |
: Wait, did FOX not have any commercials prepared? How does that happen?
|
| 1:05 |
: I’ve been sick all weekend. I’m meeting with an investor tomorrow morning. I should have been in bed 6 hours ago. Thank you, baseball, for making me make bad choices
|
| 1:05 |
: Good luck with your investor meeting, Jose.
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| 1:06 |
: Walk off inside the parker, Altuve! Why the hell not?
|
| 1:06 |
: can you write me a sick note for work tomorrow
|
| 1:06 |
: Yes. Yes I can.
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| 1:06 |
: This is one of the best games I’ve ever seen. Right up there with OAK-KC Wild Card
|
| 1:06 |
: Or the SD-COL Wild Card.
|
| 1:06 |
: Well, play-in game.
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| 1:06 |
: Whatever you know what I meant damnit
|
| 1:06 |
: Who hits the walkoff off of Kenley? I vote Correa
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| 1:06 |
: “Do it for her”
|
| 1:07 |
: Pederson is so weird.
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| 1:07 |
: He never stopped running backward.
|
| 1:07 |
: Kenley down to 91
|
| 1:07 |
:
JOE BUCK: Welcome to the top of the 47th
[Sun rises] [Sun keeps getting bigger] BUCK: yes [World engulfed by flames] BUCK: oh god yes |
| 1:07 |
: You see, the problem with this tweet is that Joe Buck shows emotion in it.
|
| 1:07 |
: That’s why I’ve never retweeted it.
|
| 1:08 |
: so now that we’re way past the WS 9 inning game length record, how about we compare it to the overall MLB record
pretty sure we’re within striking distance |
| 1:08 |
: One would assume. We’re practically to 5 hours now.
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| 1:08 |
: JESUS CHRIST MY BOSS DOESN’T WATCH SPORTS
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| 1:08 |
: Paul, at what time would you just shut the chat down?
|
| 1:08 |
: At this point, I’m too tired to sleep. Let’s get nuts.
|
| 1:09 |
: If this goes to extras, who’s the favorite to win?
|
| 1:09 |
: Kenley going to pull a Mariano from 2003 Game 7 ALCS and pitch 3+ innings, so I say Dodgers.
|
| 1:09 |
: Game 6 2011?
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| 1:09 |
: This has passed game 5 of Toronto-Texas for the craziest thing I’ve ever seen on a baseball field
|
| 1:09 |
: This has been the best game of RBI Baseball I’ve ever seen
|
| 1:10 |
: Do do do do, do do do do do, do do do do do do, do dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
|
| 1:10 |
: Game 2 of the WS was pretty good if I recall
|
| 1:10 |
: So who pitches the 10th for Houston?
|
| 1:10 |
: Keuchel should be fresh by now….
|
| 1:10 |
: Oh my lord, we were so close to a walk-off Gurriel bomb there.
|
| 1:11 |
: he was at 91 yesterday
|
| 1:11 |
: You’re getting overtime for this, yes? In fake internet money?
|
| 1:11 |
: I’ve got mad fake internet money.
|
| 1:12 |
: Dave did say I don’t have to write tomorrow, so I’ve got that going for me…which is nice.
|
| 1:12 |
: This is giving me sick flashbacks of 1993 game 4, Blue Jays scoring 6 in the 8th to win 15-14 over the Phils
|
| 1:12 |
: Maybin in for Gurriel.
|
| 1:13 |
: So, who plays first in the 10th, if it gets there? Beltran?
|
| 1:13 |
: Musgrove apparently
|
| 1:13 |
: Right, Musgrove.
|
| 1:14 |
: Forgot about him.
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| 1:14 |
: guys, there is no comparison between this and game 2. Game 2: <iframe src=”http://www.fangraphs.com/graphframe.aspx?config=0&static=1379592&type=… frameborder=”0″ scrolling=”no” height=”450″ width = “450” style=”border:1px solid black;”></iframe>
<span style=”font-size:9pt;”>Source: <a href=”http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?date=2017-10-25&team=Dodgers&dh… Game 5:<iframe src=”http://www.fangraphs.com/graphframe.aspx?config=0&static=1379593&type=… frameborder=”0″ scrolling=”no” height=”450″ width = “450” style=”border:1px solid black;”></iframe> |
| 1:14 |
: Sorry Bobby, that didn’t work.
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| 1:14 |
: No commercial break AGAIN.
|
| 1:14 |
: A friend of mine with no interest in sports whatsoever just texted me “this series is actually making me interested in baseball”. This is the best thing possible for the sport right now
|
| 1:15 |
: Glove funeral says not beltran
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| 1:15 |
: White’s on the roster, I think.
|
| 1:15 |
: Maybe Gattis?
|
| 1:15 |
: Okay, friends, it’s been great, but I really must leave this time. Thanks, Paul!
|
| 1:15 |
: Night John!
|
| 1:15 |
: I’ll make sure Pederson hustles out of the box next time
|
| 1:15 |
: !
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| 1:16 |
: Marwin can play first
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| 1:16 |
: Oh right.
|
| 1:16 |
: Sorry.
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| 1:16 |
: Paul – question … was that not bad process, bad results? Shouldnt Reddick have been walked to get R/R as well as force plays at all bases?
|
| 1:16 |
: No, I was OK with pitching to Reddick. It’s Jansen, he can get everyone out, don’t need to play matchup games.
|
| 1:17 |
: You guys were right, Marwin to first.
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| 1:17 |
: What happened to Taylor?
|
| 1:17 |
: He’s at second.
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| 1:17 |
: I need a commercial break just from Joe Buck
|
| 1:18 |
: How much is Fox losing by not showing commercials?
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| 1:18 |
: FOX has enough money.
|
| 1:18 |
: wait, did Fox actually run out of commercials? i thought that was a joke.
|
| 1:18 |
: I don’t know why they’re doing this, but I assure you they didn’t run out of ads.
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| 1:18 |
: If I had to guess, it’s because someone said “hey this game is almost 5 hours old, don’t you dare delay it any further.”
|
| 1:19 |
: Ethier.
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| 1:19 |
: This game has everything.
|
| 1:19 |
: 2nd longest World Series game by time ever I think…. Only game 3 in 2005 World Series longer(at 5:41)
|
| 1:19 |
: The Canadian feed still has commercials.
|
| 1:19 |
: No one cares about Canada, Jeremy.
|
| 1:19 |
: Kidding.
|
| 1:19 |
: Sort of.
|
| 1:20 |
: Nice throw from Maybin.
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| 1:20 |
: Fox is assuming no one is watching any longer
|
| 1:20 |
: Yeah, they must figure if they go to commercial, they might lose everyone.
|
| 1:21 |
: Watch this go like seven innings scoreless now
|
| 1:21 |
: Let’s get nuts.
|
| 1:21 |
: Marlins man blends in nicely here in Houston
|
| 1:21 |
: Yes I noted that as well.
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| 1:22 |
: Commericials are pre sold so I doubt there’s money to be gained by running/ not running once obligations are fulfilled
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| 1:22 |
: They can do make goods or run ads for their own shows.
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| 1:22 |
: I think Fox is trying to minimize down time?
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| 1:22 |
: Yes, that is my opinion.
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| 1:22 |
: They are stupid to not re-run ads. Generates goodwill with advertisers and gross impressions.
|
| 1:22 |
: Fighting a cold, I took a dose of Ny-Quil at 11. I’ve been regretting that decision for a while now.
|
| 1:23 |
: ETHIER LIKE A KID OUT THERE MIXING IT UP.
|
| 1:23 |
: Commercials this time. Seems like a local ad block?
|
| 1:24 |
: There is actually a big case in front of the Canadian version of the FCC (CRTC) regarding commercial breaks on simulcast feeds of American sports (specifically the Superbowl)
|
| 1:24 |
: I’m down for 30 innings, Who’s with me?
|
| 1:24 |
: I WANT TO SEE POSITION PLAYERS PITCH IN A NON-BLOWOUT WS GAME
|
| 1:24 |
: Working nights I have to say this is making my shift a lot more interesting.
|
| 1:24 |
: You wanna get nuts? Cmon, lets get nuts.
|
| 1:24 |
: Approx how many ppl were in the chat during first inning … and how many now? We can probably ascertain the approx amount of ppl still watching across the country if we assume 16MM started watching the game (as they did for game 4), and then at least triple the ratio for amount of ppl dropping off due to fangraphs chat users being obviously zealous baseball fans in comparison to the typical person
|
| 1:24 |
: More now, somehow. We’re at 754.
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| 1:24 |
: Jansen for one more, then McCarthy, right?
|
| 1:25 |
: McCarthy looked awful in Game 2. I think Jansen goes as long as he’s capable of.
|
| 1:25 |
: Paul, the correct answer to your Live Blog subheading question is yes, btw.
|
| 1:25 |
: Darren Rovell says they have run out of ads.
|
| 1:25 |
: Huh.
|
| 1:26 |
: If true, that’s pretty sad.
|
| 1:26 |
: This game has been so long that they don’t have an off day now
|
| 1:26 |
: Keith Hernandez is shaking his fist at the sky, saying “I didn’t sign up for extra innings!”
|
| 1:27 |
: Do you consider actors to not be “real people”?
|
| 1:27 |
: Uh…no?
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| 1:27 |
: I did not anticipate so many strong opinions about the lack of ads.
|
| 1:27 |
: I bet Puig blows 98 off the mound so I am all in on 30 innings
|
| 1:28 |
: i woke up at 1 PM today, my body is ready
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| 1:28 |
: At what inning will we see fields?
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| 1:28 |
: 13th.
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| 1:29 |
: Well Paul, aside from MLB.tv being 30 seconds behind chat, this has been a pleasant evening.
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| 1:29 |
: I didn’t hop in the chat til it got tied up in the ninth. I’m probably representative of others as well
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| 1:29 |
: Somehow 28-3 doesn’t seem so bad now…
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| 1:29 |
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wow george w. bush got us all into a prolonged conflict with no clear winner and a murky exit strategy go figure
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| 1:29 |
: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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| 1:29 |
: People on a fangraphs blog is not representative of the general public…like at all.
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| 1:29 |
: Rude!
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| 1:29 |
: Been here for 5 hours. Can I get at least one post posted?
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| 1:29 |
: Sorry!
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| 1:30 |
: This Jansen’s last inning or can he go 3?
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| 1:30 |
: 3 or 4
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| 1:30 |
: I dont understand how you run out? Cant you just advertise your own programming?
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| 1:30 |
: Agreed.
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| 1:30 |
: I could see running out I guess with pitching changes, but you should have a contingency block of ads sold
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| 1:30 |
: How many players will get phantom DL’d in order to bring in fresh arms for the rest of the Series?
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| 1:30 |
: I’ll say 0.
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| 1:31 |
: Starting to get late local ads…lots of tractor companies. Do farmers watch a lot of late-night tv?
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| 1:31 |
: Ha.
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| 1:31 |
: Okay, what’s the nuttiest walk-off possibility? I mean, walk-off interference has already happened, so we’ve gotta get crazier than that, right?
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| 1:31 |
: Walk-off inside the parker would be bananas.
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| 1:32 |
: The win probability of this game looks like Homer’s EKG when he had his heart attack.
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| 1:32 |
: LOL, Keith is breathing heavily into his microphone…sounds like every Mets extra innings game he works
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| 1:33 |
: Been here since first pitch. Probably seen 200 unique users comment, fun to see the communal chats with such diverse input
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| 1:33 |
: Look Ma! I’m on the intaweb!
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| 1:33 |
: It’s Jansen’s last inning because of the walk-off he’s gonna give up
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| 1:33 |
: Oh snap.
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| 1:34 |
: How did that hit him in the hand? It was at his eyes????
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| 1:34 |
: 4 straight HBP
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| 1:34 |
: Well, we’re on our way…
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| 1:34 |
: Carlos Beltran walk-off inside the parker
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| 1:34 |
: cant believe i picked this game as the highest game score
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| 1:34 |
: hahahahahaha
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| 1:35 |
: Early Expansion Draft?
9th inning: I LOVE BASEBALL
13th inning: BASEBALL IS… fine 27th inning: “Dearest Amy: My draft card came today. The Astros need a lefty” |
| 1:35 |
: Walk-off fan interference for the last out?
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| 1:35 |
: These shortstops are fantastic, but I miss Alcides Escobar and his Game 1 inside the Parker
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| 1:35 |
: Game ends on a swinging bunt, pitcher throws wildly into the stands. Runners advance, game over.
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| 1:35 |
: does Kenley have a pre-pitch plan … or does he just wing up nastiness and decide on location mid windup? bc I guess the latter
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| 1:35 |
: He does seem extremely casual about it.
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| 1:36 |
: I love these chats. I’d pay for my membership just for these alone.
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| 1:36 |
: Can’t imagine they bring Jansen out for a third inning now if he gets out of this
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| 1:36 |
: Yeah, he’s searching for it a little bit.
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| 1:36 |
: Yeah, these chats make watching the games way more enjoyable. Feels like I’m watching with a group of smart fans, it’s great.
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| 1:36 |
: Yeah, these chats really are special, thanks, paul
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| 1:38 |
: Emptying the bench, no more McCann.
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| 1:38 |
: Pop up that bounces off Taylor’s hat and ricochets into the behind the outfielders that had converged to back him up.. inside the park HR
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| 1:39 |
: Of course it was Ethier out there at that point and not someone with a functioning arm.
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| 1:39 |
: Wow.
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| 1:39 |
: Is it wrong that I’m sad the game is over? I really wanted this to go on forever
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| 1:39 |
: I kind of am too.
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| 1:39 |
: Bregman wow
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| 1:39 |
: wow. what a game.thanks.
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| 1:39 |
: Imagine someone who’s never watched baseball before watching this game and you try to explain Kershaw, Keuchel, Morrow, Jansen best in game.
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| 1:39 |
: Hahaha
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| 1:40 |
: A little cool to see a non-home run game winning hit
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| 1:40 |
: Sid Bream just scored!!!
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| 1:40 |
: Right move Paul? I think it makes sense to PR now, especially given that its Jansen. A bloop may be your best shot, and the longer this game goes, the more it favors the Dodgers ,who
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| 1:40 |
: Yeah, I mean, at the very least, you don’t want to risk McCann trying to slide on that hand.
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| 1:40 |
: His hand has to be killing him.
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| 1:40 |
: If they had a better left fielder, he would have been out
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| 1:40 |
: As good an arm as Barry bonds…
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| 1:41 |
: Daaaamn. Fun stuff Paul.
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| 1:41 |
: Jansen still not able to get through two innings clean – as an LSU fan prettt psyched for Bergman!
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| 1:41 |
: Paul, a truly special thank you for running such a diverse blog for this entire amazing game. These have added so much enjoyment to this unbelievable set of games.
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| 1:41 |
: Realistically, we can’t say anything about the managers. Every single pitcher they called on failed.
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| 1:41 |
: Kenley should’ve had that strikeout with 2 outs. Bill Miller really stole the show tonight
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| 1:41 |
: I was wrong about pinch running McCann
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| 1:41 |
: Looks like Jansen’s control was off tonight
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| 1:41 |
: it actually hit his forearm
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| 1:41 |
: It hit his forearm then his hand, right?
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| 1:41 |
: Thanks for the chat Paul. It was something special
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| 1:42 |
: Thanks guys. This was fun.
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| 1:42 |
: Have a great night. Or sleep.
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Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.
I only started reading the blog from the 7th or 8th inning; was there any speculation about the Super Balls? er, I mean, WS edition baseballs? I mean, I’m not exactly complaining, but it’s kinda blatant at this point, imo