Dave Cameron FanGraphs Chat – 4/29/15
11:30 |
: It’s Wednesday, so let’s do some chatting.
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11:30 |
: I’ve opened up the queue a bit earlier than normal, but we’ll still start around noon.
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12:01 |
: Alright, off we go.
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12:01 |
So is Hutchison officially bad yet |
12:01 |
: No, but he should be a contender’s #4 or #5 starter, not their #2.
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12:02 |
: One minute break…
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12:03 |
does Baileys injury make a Cueto trade happen sooner? |
12:04 |
: From a logical perspective, the Reds should be more willing to sell earlier, but the All-Star Game is going to hold them back, I think. I just don’t think they want Cueto and Chapman coming to GABP as visitors in July.
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12:04 |
How do you fix the issues with Toronto’s bullpen?? |
12:04 |
: Estrada to the rotation, Sanchez to the bullpen with a quick ascension to the closer role, and Castro to the minors.
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12:05 |
What is the deal with Teheran? He is killing me on a weekly basis |
12:05 |
: The weak contact game is a dangerous one to play. He’s better than he’s shown, but not as good as his numbers from the last few years.
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12:06 |
Anthony Rizzo tied his career high in steals last night. Still in April. 6 to the good and not yet caught. Is there anything he CAN’T do? |
12:06 |
: I would have said “play center field”, but the Cubs put Bryant there, so maybe not…
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12:06 |
When do you think Javier Baez makes it back to Chicago? |
12:06 |
: I’d guess he’s traded before he makes it back to Wrigley.
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12:07 |
Hello Dave – What’s your take on Starling Marte’s April thus far? He seems to be selling out for power (and it’s working). I know the pop was always in his bat but does this feel like a legitimate breakout – or are you concerned with the K% and BB%? |
12:08 |
: I wouldn’t call a change in approach a breakout. He’s roughly as effective, just differently so. I don’t think this is a better path forward, though, and would think he’d be best off trying to incrementally improve rather than overhaul.
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12:08 |
What would the return for Carlos Gomez look like? |
12:08 |
: Strong, but maybe not as strong as one would think; only another year on his deal after this one, and not a lot of contenders looking for CFs.
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12:09 |
How strongly-correlated is P/PA with OBP? There’s clear value in working counts to draw walks, get more hittable pitches and getting to the pen faster, but an excess of patience has a price too, doesn’t it? |
12:10 |
: P/PA is more a function of low contact rates (at-bats last longer) than batter quality. Taking balls is good; taking strikes is mostly bad.
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12:10 |
: And there is no benefit in getting to the pen faster, really. RPs perform better than SPs.
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12:10 |
What are your thoughts on BP’s DRA? |
12:11 |
: I’m a fan of Jonathan Judge’s work, and Harry and Dan T. have done a great job of helping push forward our understanding of the game. So, just from that standpoint, I’m excited to see these guys tackling the issue of dividing run prevention responsibility.
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12:12 |
: Pretending that I could offer a substantive critique of their model after reading it over a few times is silly, though. It’s the kind of thing that needs thorough investigation. It looks potentially quite promising. How well it works is in the details, which I’m sure they’ll help unpack over the next few months.
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12:14 |
If I could read only one book on baseball analytics, which would you suggest to read? |
12:14 |
: The Book, by Tango/Lichtman/Dolphin.
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12:14 |
only 1 month can lead to many surprising things but what is something that has surprised you that might continue to impact the season? i.e. breakout player, a new contending team or a team not contending, etc |
12:15 |
: The Mets probably aren’t going to go away, which makes the NL Wild Card race more fun.
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12:15 |
Michael Pineda is the best pitcher in New York City. |
12:15 |
: That is probably true when the Mets are on the road.
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12:15 |
I know lineup construction doesn’t matter much in baseball, but for my terrible work softball team with a much larger disparity in talent (3 guys with ~.700 OBP, and 3 guys and 6 girls with ~.100 OBP), I should stack the 3 good players together, right? |
12:15 |
: Absolutely.
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12:15 |
Thoughts on Tanaka’s “very mild” forearm strain? |
12:16 |
: The success rate of pitching through elbow injuries is insanely low. Maybe it’s related, maybe it’s not, but I still figure he’s in line for TJS at some point in the not too distant future.
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12:17 |
Comps for Alex Guerrero? |
12:17 |
: Todd Frazier with bad defense?
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12:17 |
How do you see this Rusney Castillo situation playing out this season, now that he appears to be healthy? |
12:17 |
: If he hits well in the minors over the next few weeks, I’d imagine he’ll displace Victorino.
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12:18 |
which uniform do you think Cole Hamels will be wearing on August 1st? |
12:18 |
: Red Sox.
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12:19 |
: The Phillies will eat some money and get a nice package of guys from the Margot/Devers/Rodriguez tier, plus some MLB pieces like Bradley and Kelly.
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12:20 |
Am I correct that there is no bonus cap after the first ten rounds? What if a top HS talent let it be known that he would only sign for $20M in round 11 or go to college? |
12:20 |
: If you sign a player for more than $100K after the top 10 rounds, he counts against your pool.
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12:21 |
Dave, people seem to be using SIERAs through 4 starts as predictors of end of the season ERAs. That’s a mistake, right? How big of a sample does that stat need to take on predictive qualities? |
12:22 |
: You don’t want to use any 2015 number to predict ROS results. Use a projection system, like ZIPS or Steamer ROS.
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12:22 |
So, these Astros: looking pretty good even with Springer, Gattis, and Carter toting sub-.200 averages. Obviously that won’t last. So when those guys heat up, what’s holding them back from competing now? |
12:22 |
: Their pitching is bad.
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12:23 |
What do you think of the Mariners playing Cruz in RF nearly every game? |
12:23 |
: Unsurprising.
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12:23 |
Say something about Matt Carpenter, please. |
12:23 |
: He’s exactly the kind of player who destroys the notion of evaluating prospects by their ceiling.
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12:24 |
The Dodgers constant roster manipulation made me think about different rotation construction options. What would the downside be to having 4 established starters on the 25 man roster and 3 guys who you felt comfortable with as a fifth starter in Triple A? You could call up one of the 3 when you need a fifth starter and option him the next day for a reliever so your bullpen is always stocked with rested guys. Having 3 guys who could start would get around the 10 day rule as well. |
12:24 |
: Guys who are good enough to start in the big leagues generally won’t go for spending 2/3 of their season in the minors.
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12:24 |
: And you don’t want to jerk around real prospects like that.
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12:27 |
With an international draft seeming inevitable, wouldn’t it be a bit unfair to have the worst team have the #1 overall pick in both the domestic and international drafts? That team would basically be able to add two top 25 prospects overnight. Imagine if in the NBA draft the worst team got to draft LeBron and Carmelo, or if in the NFL the worst team drafted Luck and RGIII |
12:27 |
: There are no LeBrons in either MLB talent market.
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12:28 |
: The distance from the big leagues, and the much smaller marginal differences in prospects, makes that scenario basically impossible in MLB.
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12:28 |
If you were a current MLB player, who would you most resemble in terms of personality and style of play? |
12:29 |
: In high school, I was a high-OBP/low power catcher. So Ryan Hanigan, maybe?
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12:29 |
If MLB truly wants to speed up the game, eliminate the commercial break during pitching changes. Just jog to the mound and go. They shouldn’t need more than 2-3 warmup pitches after throwing in the pen. This would be enough to single-handedly speed up the pace of just about every game. |
12:30 |
: Well, yeah, and revenues would fall by ~75%.
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12:30 |
What’s your over/under on the DH coming to the NL? 3 years? 5 years? |
12:30 |
: I think it happens in the next CBA.
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12:31 |
How long until the Brewers have a fire sale? |
12:31 |
: They already did.
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12:31 |
What’s gotten into the Royals? Is there something to be said for an above average team experiencing success and then using that to springboard to even greater heights? |
12:31 |
: They have a .340 BABIP as a team. I don’t think that’s experience.
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12:32 |
How dumb is it for the MLB to have blackout restrictions on a game where the public isn’t allowed in the stadium? |
12:32 |
: MLB’s primary financier right now are television networks; they don’t want to poke the bear.
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12:32 |
Should Pittsburgh be worried about McCutchen’s knee? |
12:33 |
: Yep. Knees linger, and even if you can play through them, they sap power. See Votto, Joey.
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12:33 |
I heard that the Korean Army doesnt even want Choo anymore. |
12:33 |
: I laughed.
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12:33 |
What kind of trade package can the Reds get at the deadline for Cueto? Chapman? Any trade partners that stick out? |
12:33 |
: I’d package them together and shoot for the moon. If Boston doesn’t go for Hamels, that’s the first place you call.
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12:34 |
Looking at the Sox rotation, specifically Kelly and Buchholz, their peripherals are virtually polar opposite from their results. Is this something we just need to have patience and trust the results will follow, or is there something else causing the poor results in spite of the huge K rates and strong Bb rates? |
12:35 |
: It can be both. They could have (and probably did) throw pitches in hittable locations that caused their BABIPs to be inflated early on, so it doesn’t have had to just be bad luck on balls falling in. At the same time, though, history says guys who can pitch in the big leagues won’t keep throwing pitches in those hittable spots, so this likely won’t last. When choosing between betting on ERA and FIP in small samples, bet on FIP.
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12:35 |
Maybe being “too passive” is the wrong term, but would you be okay, as a manager/owner/fan/whatever, with your team swinging at a lot of first and second pitches in the PA if they were good. I’ve been watching one particular player, who’s normally a good hitter, take just easy and hittable strikes in 1-0/0-1 counts. |
12:36 |
: Yeah, you want guys to swing at pitches in the middle of the plate regardless of count.
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12:36 |
: Taking strike one over and over is a bad plan.
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12:36 |
Is Hanley Ramirez your MVP of the AL at the end of April? |
12:36 |
: Defense and baserunning matter. He’s probably not in the top 50.
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12:36 |
The Indians and Nationals are in similar boats, big things expected, but both in last place today. Who gets back to .500 first? |
12:37 |
: The Nationals. I was never really in on Cleveland as much as everyone else.
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12:37 |
When should we start caring about UZR, and does the extremity of a number affect this? Like how many more weeks of Nelson Cruz at -48 UZR/150 would it take to tell a story? |
12:38 |
: You should always care about the number in the right context. We already knew Cruz was a bad defender, so while he’s not a -50 UZR/150 guy, it’s fair to say that he shouldn’t be playing the field.
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12:39 |
Everyone’s been screaming for more playing time for A. Guerrero, but isn’t Scott Van Slyke just as, if not more deserving? Lefty masher who has also been crushing righties going back to the spring. |
12:39 |
: Yep. I’d play Van Slyke as much as possible if I was LAD.
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12:40 |
Where do you see the next area of investment for clubs? Not inefficiency, per se, but area where additional funds would make a bigger difference than applying to the major league roster? |
12:40 |
: Training/health.
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12:40 |
Good morning Dave Cameron! Actually, it’s just past noon for you, isn’t it. Now the question: do the Angels have the pitching to contend? I’m not seeing a ton there after Richards. Pinning contention on Weaver and Wilson getting good again seems like a dicey strategy. |
12:40 |
: Yeah, besides Mike Trout, that team is pretty bad.
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12:40 |
: That he makes them a contender by himself speaks to how great he is.
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12:41 |
A Cole Hamels non-trade question: Which current stat is closer to his final number at the end of the season – his HR/FB rate or his strand rate (for reference, they are 25.9 and 91.9, respectively, right now)? |
12:42 |
: HR/FB probably comes down to 11-12% by end of the year, and LOB% probably comes down to ~78% by end of year, so LOB% is slightly closer.
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12:42 |
Any chance the Brewers seriously consider trading Lucroy? |
12:42 |
: I doubt it.
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12:43 |
So Boston’s rotation…can they overcome it? |
12:43 |
: Yep. You don’t have to finish the year with the rotation you started with. They took a bunch of flyers, and if they don’t work, they’ll replace those guys with new guys.
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12:43 |
The Cubs should be in all-in mode this season, right? And by that I mean maybe grabbing one more top-notch starter (ala Hamels) |
12:44 |
: No; they have a strong future and a nice window to be good for 5+ years. No reason to act like this is their only chance.
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12:45 |
Your Little Mookie Betts is having a lot of trouble with pitches down and away.. The hype was out of control.. He wont end up with an avg above 270. |
12:45 |
: I’d happily make you a friendly wager on that. .270 is a very low bar for a high-contact guy with good speed.
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12:45 |
Alcantara and Gleyber Torres for Cueto. Who says no? Is Torres alone too much for a few months of Cueto? |
12:45 |
: The Reds would laugh at that.
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12:46 |
what is the most concerning thing about the Nationals? |
12:46 |
: Their bullpen is kind of meh.
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12:47 |
Hey Dave! I’m just trying to learn more regarding FIP and xFIP. I have always preferred FIP mainly because I have felt that allowing/not allowing HR is a skill, but i am questioning that because it seems hard to prove if that is a skill or not. Could you please provide an argument on why/when it would be better to use xFIP? |
12:48 |
: There is some skill involved with keeping fly balls in the yard, but the range is narrow; maybe 8-12% from best to worst. So if you see a guy at 5% or 15%, you can be pretty sure that he’s going to regress back towards that 8-12% range. xFIP over-regresses some guys, but that’s usually a better mistake when making projections than not regressing at all.
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12:48 |
Who is your least favorite player in baseball |
12:48 |
: Carlos Peguero.
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12:49 |
Think the Dodgers can piece together enough pitching to ride out the injuries? I would assume now that most teams know they have serious needs that the asking price is increasing. |
12:49 |
: Yeah, they are good enough to survive without getting a lot from their #4/#5 starters.
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12:50 |
Thoughts on Choo? Is he done? Injured? Or just babip driven SSS start to the season that will normalize? |
12:50 |
: I’d imagine he’s probably still not healthy.
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12:51 |
Any chance Urias winds up in McCarthy’s rotation spot this year? |
12:51 |
: Not 0%, but close to it.
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12:51 |
If I invest 2500 in a Roth IRA and end up needin 1000 2 years from now can I pull it from the Roth IRA without penalty if I don’t touch my interest? |
12:51 |
: Yep. You can always withdraw your contributions to a Roth IRA, but you can’t withdraw the gains.
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12:52 |
Can you elaborate on your Matt Carpenter comment? |
12:52 |
: He was a no-tools/low-ceiling org player who then turned into a utility bench piece, then a second division starter, and is now maybe the best third baseman in the National League.
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12:53 |
Wouldn’t it have made more sense to have the Orioles just play in DC? |
12:53 |
: The O’s/Nats just had a pretty nasty legal fight. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Lerners weren’t particularly eager to help the O’s.
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12:54 |
With the Dodgers infield logjam do you think it would be worth it to the Dodgers to send Corey Seager to Philly if the Phillies ate say 1/3 to 1/2 of Hamels salary? |
12:54 |
: No.
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12:55 |
Given the Brewers start and roster/org, how likely is it that Segura gets traded this summer? And — asking as a partisan Mets fan — how eager would you be to acquire him? |
12:55 |
: I think he’s one of the most likely guys to get moved, though SD makes more sense than NY to me. I’m not a huge fan.
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12:55 |
Why would the Phillies even want JBJ at this point? He has proven that he cant hit a lick. |
12:55 |
: Giving up on a player after 500 ABs is silly.
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12:56 |
In some ways it’d be a bigger break from tradition, but why not do 8-man lineups if pitchers don’t have to bat in the NL? The DH seems like it’s just an affirmative action program for 3-true-outcome lard-asses that no one seems to like and isn’t truly necessary to eliminate pitcher batting. |
12:56 |
: Yeah, you’re right, no one likes David Ortiz. He’s not popular at all.
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12:57 |
How would the DH be instituted in the NL fairly? It seemingly give advantages to some teams over others right away. |
12:57 |
: Teams will be privy to negotiations. Once it becomes clear that the NL adopting the DH is on the table, they’ll have time to plan for it.
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12:58 |
Is Giolito a reasonable offer for Chapman? |
12:58 |
: I would imagine the Reds would love to get Giolito for Chapman. Doubt WAS makes that offer.
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12:59 |
Devon Travis = April AL MVP… Sorry east coasters. |
12:59 |
: Adam Jones has a strong case.
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12:59 |
Don’t you have to swing at the first pitch sometimes for game theory reasons? |
12:59 |
: Yes, if you’re never swinging 0-0, you’re doing it wrong.
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1:00 |
The FG playoff odds place the Angels near 50%. Would say that’s about right, high, low? |
1:00 |
: I think it’s a little high.
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1:00 |
: but the AL West is meh.
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1:01 |
Can Betts produce as a less rich man’s McCutchen? |
1:01 |
: I don’t really buy into that as a realistic comparison. He’s a fast Matt Carpenter, or Ben Zobrist with more athleticism.
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1:04 |
Jose Valverde to Nats. Surprised he got signed before Soriano? |
1:04 |
: Valverde probably signed for nothing.
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1:04 |
: Soriano won’t.
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1:05 |
To to what extent is the Astros “bad” pitching offset by S/C/G collectively raising their OPS 150 pts vs YTD? |
1:05 |
: You can’t just positively regress the underperformers without doing the opposite for guys who are overperforming.
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1:05 |
Why Peguero? |
1:05 |
: He’s everything I hate in a player.
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1:06 |
If the Brewers were to trade Lucroy and /or Gomez what could they really get for them? |
1:06 |
: A healthy Lucroy would bring back a monster package.
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1:07 |
“Giving up on a player after 500 AB is silly” His probability of becoming a good hitter is almost nil at this point.. I would understand if he had some power, or speed, or anything really, but what is his likely ceiling at this point? an empty 250 avg? |
1:07 |
: He’s an elite defensive CF; if he was a “good hitter”, he’d be an MVP candidate. He only needs to get to not-terrible offensive levels, and that’s an easily attainable goal.
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1:08 |
When Chapman sets up his fastball with a ton of 88 mph sliders and changeups, then climbs the ladder with his fastball like he did last night, is he the most unhittable pitcher in baseball? Or is he already the most unhittable based purely on his stuff? |
1:08 |
: Yeah, I don’t know how anyone ever gets a hit off him.
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1:08 |
Proposition: Replace DH / the 9 hole with a “Power Hitter” (PH) position. PH is exempt from drug testing and may be freely subbed in/out on the base paths. Discuss. |
1:09 |
: A-Rod plays until he’s 50, fulfilling Julio Franco’s dream.
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1:09 |
: And on that note, I’m off to get some lunch.
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1:09 |
: Thanks for hanging out everyone.
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Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Dave, thanks for the chat. It seems to me that the GWRBI is one of the dumber stats we’ve had over the years, but it was done away with in 1988, long before the more recent development of analytics stats. Any idea what the thinking was at the time that made that one go away comparitively easily? Is it just that it was a relatively new stat and didn’t have 100+ years of history behind it?
There were a lot of cheap GWRBI — batter drives in the first run of a 7-4 game with an out and gets a GWRBI. For that and other reasons, people decided it was dumb — it didn’t really represent the hit that won the game — and it got killed.