2016 World Series Game 3 Live Blog
4:52 |
: oh it’s just a
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7:31 |
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7:32 |
: That’s my musical contribution for the evening. Let’s get this party started!
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8:01 |
: Eno, this music is terrible.
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8:01 |
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8:02 |
: hey eno, i’m in bells and founders land but stone from San Diego or whatever just recently started being carried by several places here. what should i look for?
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8:02 |
: Eh. Enjoy By is my favorite from them.
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8:02 |
: I can’t stop listening to it.
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8:02 |
: POP
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8:02 |
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8:03 | : ttps:// |
8:03 |
: Whoops.
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8:05 |
: O/U a game time of 3.5 hours?
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8:05 |
: I seriously hope it’s under. Been up since 4 AM.
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8:06 |
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8:06 |
: My body is ready for the ludes
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8:06 |
: THE POOPS ARE BACK
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8:07 |
who you rooting for
The Wind (19.8% | 30 votes)
The Cubs (44.3% | 67 votes)
The Indians (25.1% | 38 votes)
The Meteor (10.5% | 16 votes)
Total Votes: 151
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8:08 |
: What’s the beer choice at first pitch?
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8:08 |
: Why doesn’t everybody hate Joe Buck so much?
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8:08 |
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8:08 |
: My wife, who doesn’t watch baseball at all, is sitting next to me and cursing Joe Buck. I have taught her well!
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8:09 |
: Front door sinker for strike one?
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8:09 |
: Joe Buck said “Typically, when the series shifts, both teams lose their DHs. That’s also the case here, but…”
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8:10 |
: I got a question. Who the hell is Ryan Pollack?
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8:10 |
: I’ll get back to you when I know for sure!
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8:11 |
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8:11 |
: Wait what there’s a meteor
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8:11 |
: I have so much to do in life
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8:11 |
: Like live vicariously through Bork Jr
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8:11 |
: How many dongs tonight? ( ?° ?? ?°)
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8:11 |
: approx 40k?
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8:13 |
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8:13 |
: You should see the ankle he’s running on.
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8:13 |
: oooooooooooooooh
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8:13 |
: Out? Looks out
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8:13 |
: They just showed the ankle on the international stream. Looked like a grapefruit under his skin.
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8:13 |
: Ooh, he’s out
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8:16 |
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8:16 |
: I lol’d
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8:18 |
: this strikezone is a joke so far
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8:19 |
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8:21 |
: Joe Buck gets excited about every ball hit to the outfield.
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8:21 |
: But, last time I was at a playoff game, I did too
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8:22 |
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8:23 |
: O/u on a Santana disaster in the outfield? 1.5?
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8:23 |
: What is the unit of measurement there?
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8:23 |
: Just disasters?
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8:23 |
: How many chances does a left fielder get that are actually hard? That’s the problem with defensive metrics.
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8:23 |
: I say he gets three chances, one is hard, and he messes up two. Hah.
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8:24 |
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8:24 |
: Shouldve practiced his “I dunno it’s in the ivy” look too. The Yo.
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8:25 |
: Dude, these emoji’s in my chat is triggering me.
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8:25 |
: Hey I got a poop one too so it’s okay.
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8:26 |
: Is he out there saying “Don’t hit to me. Don’t hit to me” like we did in little league?
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8:26 |
: That, or when he gets to the plate, gotta hit one out gotta hit one out gotta hit one out
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8:26 |
: no kidding about the emojis
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8:26 |
: *benny hill music intensifies*
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8:27 |
: I enabled something I never do: the peanut gallery.
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8:27 |
: welp I see how you feel then
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8:28 |
: During the NLCS I saw John Baker tweet that that play (when players throw the ball past each other trying to get an out) called a “snowball fight”. I’m going to steal that.
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8:28 |
: Four fielders touched that single
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8:29 |
: 4-6-3-2
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8:29 |
: What was Hendrick’s first strike % this season? Should Indians sit first pitch?
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8:29 |
: What if, one day, they turned an 8 6 7 5 3 0 9
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8:30 |
: Hendricks tied for 1st among qualified ML starters this year with 68.6 F-Strike%. Cueto was the other at that rate.
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8:30 |
: God Hendricks has such great command to his glove side. Makes me moist. Good pull Ryan!
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8:30 |
: Problem with those first pitch strikes is they all look like balls before they are strikes.
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8:30 |
: Lackey 2nd at 68.1%, and Mr. Tomlin 4th at 67.7
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8:31 |
: Er, 3rd
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8:31 |
: So yeah I’d look for hitters swinging early tonight
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8:32 |
: Is Ryan Pollack a Fangraphs writer? I thought he was just a very very prolific commenter in this chat, but that theory isn’t holding water any more.
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8:32 | : Joined the site in August! Very happy to be here: |
8:34 |
: Before here I was at Camden Chat for 3 years. Still write at Camden Depot. (Yes; Orioles fan)
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8:37 |
: Will Ben Zobrist ever be overrated?
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8:37 |
: No
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8:37 |
: Lovely….another orioles lovin fangraphs writer
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8:37 |
: wait who’s the other one
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8:38 |
: There’s more of us?!
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8:38 |
: Probably means Szymborski
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8:38 |
: Didn’t even know that about Dan.
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8:38 |
: Oh yeah. I follow him on Twitter and see the fandom poke through occasionally
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8:39 |
: Cute. Jorge Soler’s walk up music is ‘I’ve Got The Power’. Because Soler Power.
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8:39 |
: O’s fans are sneaky like that.
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8:39 |
: I love Soler so much and then he does things like that.
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8:41 |
: So what did FanGraphs have to send to Camden Depot for the late season pickup? Prospects or was it a purely cash transaction?
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8:43 |
: Haha. I requested my release, it was granted, and signed with FG as a free agent
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8:43 |
: Do you think Fox will ever put together the connection between low post-season ratings and Joe Buck?
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8:43 |
: Baez, although a good player, has been overrated this postseason, right?
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8:43 |
: I think all National guys are meh. Boog is pretty good I guess. I wish the local guys ‘ascended’ to the Series with their teams.
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8:44 |
: Although could you imagine Hawk Harrelson announcing the world series.
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8:44 |
: I think so. He’s made meaningful changes to his game but still has a ways to go.
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8:44 |
: Who is more darling: Baez or Schwarbs?
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8:44 |
: Addison Russell
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8:45 |
: Baez MLB logo neck tattoo: best tattoo in baseball?
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8:45 |
: very confident
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8:45 |
: What is the fascination with showing closeups of the catcher’s signals with runners on second
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8:45 |
: Crotches.
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8:45 |
: Eno, did you like that Gone Away? I’m about to crack one.
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8:45 |
: Yes. They’ve done better but v good.
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8:45 |
: I can’t imagine how much a neck tattoo must hurt
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8:45 |
: Which city has the better beer scene?
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8:45 |
: *shudders*
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8:46 |
: Chicago easy
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8:46 |
: This chat seems very casual and jokey so far
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8:46 |
: Welcome to my regular Thursday chats.
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8:47 |
: The best part of it is the emojis load late on my computer. Poop suddenly appears on delay over and over again.
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8:48 |
: IPA’s make me gassy.
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8:49 |
: I get that sometimes. I’d recommend lighter pale ales and sessions. Get the same hops taste but less actual hops and all the stuff that makes you fart.
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8:49 |
: Addison “Dreamboat” Russell
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8:49 |
: I think that might of been a good play
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8:49 |
: I think Addison is jealous of all the attention Javy has gotten
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8:50 |
: I’m for Kyle “The Camp Counselor” Hendricks #adorbs
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8:50 |
: Tomlin has a .400 average? Who needs a DH?
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8:50 |
: He’s, like, 4/10.
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8:50 |
: I see that back door sinker Hendricks
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8:50 |
: and front door. He’s obscene.
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8:51 |
: Kyle “The Crossing Guard” Hendricks.
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8:51 |
: The gas has nothing to do with the hops, right? It’s the higher amount of unfermented complex sugars left behind in higher-ABV beers
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8:51 |
: Well I knew it was the bigger beers, thanks for the science!
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8:51 |
: He reminds me of that tall skinny guy from the movie Road Trip. DJ Qualls
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8:52 |
: What’s the spin rate on Hendrick’s curve? Seems like Indians don’t pick it up super well
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8:52 |
: Top 8, minimum 100.
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8:52 |
: Or the nerdy science guy from Avatar, Joel David Moore
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8:52 |
: Why do they count strike outs vs pitchers as an actual strike out? Isn’t it more of a “given”?
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8:53 | : The best hitting pitcher of the last four years is Zack Greinke and he’s 27% worse than league average. |
8:53 |
: brewer’s yeast is big contributor to intestinal problems….avoid bottle conditioned beers look for filtered ones if that’s your deal
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8:53 |
: all the fart news
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8:54 |
: NL DH when?
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8:55 |
: Let’s say … 10-15 years.
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8:55 |
: In terms of enjoyment, where does seeing a perfect changeup down and away rank for you guys?
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8:55 |
: Pretty high. But I’m more of a curveball guy
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8:57 |
: Female MLB player when and why? (I’ve been watching Pitch)
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8:57 |
: Rob Neyer and Joe Sheehan had some thoughts on this. (Rob on Twitter and Joe in his excellent newsletter). Bottom line is that no women in the college/semi-pro ranks throw hard enough to get noticed by MLB. At least none that I’m aware of
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8:58 |
: Have to think pitcher, because there have been some successful pitchers at 85-87. You’d still need to throw the knuckler 80+. Maybe 75+.
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8:58 |
: Napoli pooped
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8:58 |
: nap nap weiner
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8:59 |
: I’ve always wondered how players handle that situation. Now I know
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8:59 |
: *cue ‘The More You know’*
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8:59 |
: can we get splits for pre and post poop?
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9:00 |
: Yeah, unless you’re Paul Baerman on my american legion team 15 years ago… Then you just poop in left field
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9:00 |
: um
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9:00 |
: Y’all are automatically assuming it’s a poop.
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9:01 |
: Perez gonna need to apologize to the ump, like Rizzo did
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9:01 |
: I really dislike hitters walking to first before the ump makes the call, or catchers running off the field. It’s disrespectful.
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9:02 |
: Been any FG analysis of Tomlin’s weird great-awful-effective again year?
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9:03 |
: Stopped throwing his fastballs, which are bad, at some point.
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9:03 |
: It’s disrespectful to have a zone that wildly inconsistent too. Not like this is the World Series or anything.
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9:04 |
: I figured out who Ryan Pollack is. He’s Brian McCann
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9:04 |
: Fun Police ™
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9:04 |
: My girlfriend just asked me “That’s his name? Jizz in hall?”
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9:04 |
: I personally call him What’s Up Chisenbutt.
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9:05 |
: So nobody else gets the Lionel Richie thing with Lindor, huh
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9:06 |
: how long before MLB only allows umps with the most accurate zone calling be at home plate in the postseason?
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9:07 |
: It’s not an MLB mandate issue. Umps have a union too. Would have to be a negotiation. I don’t see any incentive for umps to go down that road.
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9:07 |
: They have some sort of meritocracy that supposedly grooms the better ones but tonight uh
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9:07 |
: Is Lindor really “only going to get better”? I hate those little phrases as they really set people up to misunderstand typical aging arcs IMO.
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9:07 |
: He is pre-peak by any arc though.
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9:08 |
: Watching Hendricks is fun, especially for an Orioles fan since we’re used to pitchers with > 9% walk rates
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9:09 |
: Had not seen him before he faced Kershaw
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9:09 |
: Hendricks is so much fun to watch
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9:10 |
: what do the framing metrics say about Contreras? it looks like on close pitches he moves his glove alot? at least from the tv angle
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9:10 |
: 20th in CSAA so okay but not great. I see too much hand movement. Needs to stick it better and keep his thumb below the ball. But those things come to you from friends in the game and good coaches, he could get it.
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9:11 |
: What makes a guy like Posey so effective at framing?
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9:11 |
: BP has Conteras in +4.5 framing runs this year. More than some other MLB catchers with a lot more time behind the plate
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9:11 |
: Size, wrists, training, knowledge of his pitchers, utter red-assedness.
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9:12 |
: (Lucroy, Conger, to name two)
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9:12 |
: I’m good for what ales you.
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9:12 |
: The lager, the better.
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9:12 |
: I’d make a stout companion.
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9:13 |
: To go back to umps for a sec, if you haven’t read “As They See ‘Em”, go read that book. Fun, informative look at umpiring in baseball.
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9:14 |
: Hendricks is so fun to watch. Good pitching is so fun to watch. Baseball is fun to watch
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9:16 |
: Hendricks is dancing with the devil tonight
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9:17 |
: ????
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9:17 |
: I thought that was a tennis visor on the left.
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9:17 |
: anyone else listening to radio only, no tv? am I a relic?
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9:17 |
: You’re missing all the movie trailers!
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9:18 |
: Movies are always better if you haven’t seen the trailer.
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9:18 |
: Agreed.
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9:19 |
: I’m doing radio only!
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9:19 |
: i’m listening to the radio audio on the mlb tv stream
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9:20 |
: I’ve been listening to a lot of the playoffs on the radio at work
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9:20 |
: What’s radio saying about the strike zone?
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9:20 |
: I’m doing the chat only!
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9:20 |
: need big inning soon, otherwise pregame wind talk way oveblown
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9:20 |
: nyuk nyuk
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9:21 |
: Cleveland radio really hasn’t said anything about the strike zone
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9:21 |
: Yikes. That was strike 3
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9:21 |
: Anyone remember when Shane Victorino got ejected from center field for complaining about a ball/strike call?
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9:22 |
: This strike zone is terrible. Someone is going to get ejected. My nominee is Napoli.
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9:22 |
: Pitch framing!
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9:22 |
: bring on the roboumps!
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9:22 |
: Strike zone defined by front knee or back knee?
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9:23 |
: third knee
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9:23 |
: Who was the ump that game?
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9:23 | : Ed Rapuano: |
9:23 |
: Kevin Kiermaier says he can see the catchers signs from center.
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9:23 |
: and damn those eyes
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9:25 |
: Ump came rather close to Perez on that foul pop.
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9:25 | : I’m going to trust this web page on the rules there: |
9:26 |
: Ump close to Perez because Perez was not under the ball.
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9:26 |
: Fair
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9:27 |
: Given the strike zone, Perez accidentally body slamming the ump does have a silver lining.
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9:27 |
: i love it when announcers call players “winners”
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9:27 |
: Imagine if they did the reverse.
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9:28 |
: Dude, that’s a good lookin old man.
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9:28 |
: This is the non-Kluber game Cleveland needs. Marc Levy looks great!
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9:29 |
: MARV!!!!!
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9:30 |
: If players were to call announcers “winners”?
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9:30 |
: Any chance Allen comes in before miller?
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9:31 |
: So then Schwarber pinch hits, and maybe they have to bring in Miller for Schwarber or go with Allen v Schwarbs? Yeah I think there’s a good chance.
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9:32 |
: If this game stays close Tomlin should pitch 7 innings. They’re playing three straight games.
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9:32 |
: Ah, checked off that box on my “Bored Network Star Only Here For Promotional Appearance” bingo card
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9:33 |
: “she’s something something blah blah and he’s blah blah and shoot me”
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9:34 |
: They should at least tell them “hey, we’re doing to cut to you in 30 seconds, look excited”
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9:34 |
: 99% of eno’s posts have the heart smiley face…
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9:34 |
: better then poop is what I say
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9:34 |
: I demand more poop from Eno
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9:34 |
: stick around a while
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9:35 |
: How long should Hendricks go?
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9:35 |
: Are you saying Eno isn’t sufficiently full of $#!+?
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9:36 |
: I’m a TTO penalty fan, so if the game remains tied or there’s a one run gap, you look at pulling him
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9:36 |
: watching AL pitchers bunt is sexy.
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9:38 |
: does this mean tomlin’s staying in, or just he can handle the bat alrite?
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9:38 |
: I’d bet he’s staying in. As some have pointed out there’s 3 games in a row. Can’t burn Miller and Allen tonight
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9:39 |
: He was a shortstop at Texas Tech, should know how to handle.
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9:39 |
: Tomlin drafted as such too. Almost a deGrom.
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9:39 |
: This question is very important. Which Cubs player is the most attractive?
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9:39 |
: Russell > Bryant > Rizzo
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9:40 |
: Was that a net positive for the RE?
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9:40 |
: I think so
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9:41 |
Best looking Cub
Bryant (65.9% | 89 votes)
Rizzo (5.9% | 8 votes)
Russell (8.1% | 11 votes)
Baez (14.0% | 19 votes)
Hendricks (5.9% | 8 votes)
Total Votes: 135
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9:41 |
: w/o the bunt you have (most likely) a ground out or a double play.
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9:41 |
: Runner on 2nd, one out > Runner on 1st, one out > No one on, two outs
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9:42 |
: oh come on y’all just looking at eye color and nothing else
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9:42 |
: and who’s voting for Hendricks wow
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9:42 |
: Does wOBA affect whether or not it’s positive? Just curious if it’d be worse for another position player to sacrifice
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9:43 |
: Have you even seen Bryant’s eyes? This is not fair.
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9:43 |
: I have gazed into them, cleared my throat, and continued the interview. But Russell is the one.
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9:43 |
: I suspect yes. Which is why the pitcher is an automatic bunt but position players usually swing away
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9:43 |
: (Channeling my inner MGL here)
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9:43 |
: 3-2 Curveball ??
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9:44 |
: What if I like something more mature? Like I’m ready for someone serious like a David Ross
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9:44 |
: Almost put Lester in
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9:44 |
: Arrieta is the sexiest cub. Soler is the butter face.
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9:44 |
: Soler yoked
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9:44 |
: I love how Ryan is doing serious analysis while Eno is arguing about attractive guys
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9:45 |
: straight man
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9:45 |
: Schwarber and his chin rat should be on there too
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9:45 |
: minus minus goat
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9:45 |
: What can I say, run expectancy is sexy
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9:46 |
: “Your honor, I feel so confident of Marge Simpson’s guilt that I can waste the court’s time rating the superhunks!”
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9:47 |
: Whose the best looking Indian? Cleveland Indian that is, not all Indians in general
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9:47 |
: they are… not that attractive. I can’t even answer this. Lindor I guess.
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9:47 |
: Bit surprised by the early yank?
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9:47 |
: No way. It’s the postseason. Cubs have a good pen that might be deeper if not as great.
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9:48 |
: I was walking by an Express in the mall a couple months ago where the front of the store had a huge picture of Kris Bryant dressed dapper as hell. My wife stopped and looked at it for ten seconds and said “does he play for your team?” I’m a Pirates fan so I responded, “No, he actually plays for our division rivals” in which she responded “you picked the wrong team”
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9:48 |
: After 6 beers, Napoli.
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9:48 |
: Kipnis is dreamy
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9:48 |
: Pedro Cerrano is the sexiest indian
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9:48 |
: Lindor has very nice teeth.
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9:49 |
: Sergio Romo and Hunter Pence both told me that Justin Grimm is the nastiest pitcher they’ve seen!
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9:49 |
: Speaking of RE … 1.541 in this situation
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9:49 | : (per |
9:49 |
: Maddon may not have wanted Hendricks to face Lindor again after two ropes.
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9:49 |
: The Cubs are in a bad place. Man, this is Grimm.
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9:50 |
: “First player 22 years or younger to start a World Series 5-for-9 since Mickey Mantle.” – Obscure, Useless Statistics Dept
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9:50 |
: This is the kind of stuff that makes all my non-baseball friends think you have to be a stat nerd to like baseball
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9:51 |
: As a gay baseball fan, these are the rare conversations that I feel very qualified to discuss. The best looking Indian is definitely London.
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9:51 |
: *Lindor
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9:52 |
: Lindor has to GIDP here,right?
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9:52 |
: hey! I got it right!
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9:52 |
: This one called it three minutes ago
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9:52 |
: no I mean that Lindor was sexiest
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9:52 |
: lol
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9:53 |
: who here thought Tomlin would go farther in the game than Hendricks
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9:53 |
: Man I thought he’d go three.
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9:53 |
: A sexy GIDP’er
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9:54 |
: I LOVE watching players celebrate things that you know will be among the best moments of their career.
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9:55 |
: That fist-pump by Grimm was an 11/10. Jason Grilli would do that for the Jays this year, but he never fist-pumped like that. That was something special.
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9:56 |
: Yeah, on a bet for which starter went longer, I would have just lost a TON of money
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9:56 |
: Miller sighting!
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9:56 |
: I just said in my head “three straight curves”
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9:56 |
: What was the wpa of that double play?
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9:57 |
: That GIDP was 19.5% WE swing
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9:57 |
: I want Miller in the game before they get a lead
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9:59 |
: No matter what happens here, we can all agree Tomlin pitched great given all the circumstances
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9:59 |
: With two outs in the 5th, coming up on the two-hour mark
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9:59 |
: Do you think Eddie Vedder and Theo hold hands?
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10:00 |
: Tomlin has pitched great w/o qualification
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10:00 |
: didn’t throw the cutter much, which gives up the homers.
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10:01 |
: Good F’n game Tomlin
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10:01 |
: over/under 4 hours for this game?
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10:01 |
: I’ll take the under.
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10:01 |
: I can totally see Montero singling home the run now. And all the stupid pundits will claim Tomlin shouldve remained in
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10:01 |
: Off topic: I have always been more of a light beer kinda guy. What kind of beer is available that would be a “starter” beer for some more interesting flavors?
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10:02 |
: Firestone Walker Easy Jack.
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10:02 |
: Which fangraphs writer was the best baseball player?
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10:02 |
: Jeff Sullivan or Brad Johnson.
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10:02 |
: Wasn’t there a softball game last year?
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10:02 |
: whiffle.
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10:02 |
: Cameron had a Big Bat too and Fagerstrom switch hit.
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10:03 |
: Nice
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10:03 |
: Did anyone strike out?
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10:03 |
: hey we don’t need to name names. I don’t think I did. We switched to the bigger bat after four innings of low run scoring environment.
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10:04 |
: whats a beer go for at Wrigley
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10:04 |
: Like $12 and it’s swill only.
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10:04 |
: What’s the chance Montero gets a hit off Miller here?
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10:04 |
: Very low, I would guess
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10:04 |
: I’ll throw out 10%
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10:04 |
: wow for a second there
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10:04 |
: Hah yeah
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10:04 |
: No way! They don’t have ANY craft beer at Wrigley? In the 21st century that’s unamerican!
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10:05 |
: And The Cell is amazing for craft. It’s weird.
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10:05 |
: Personal theory is that Wrigley, Fenway, Yankee Stadium fill up so they don’t care.
|
10:05 |
: Best ballpark for craft beer?
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10:05 |
: Seattle or San Diego, SF third.
|
10:05 |
: Why don’t teams use the high leverage reliever concept during the regular season. It seems so favorable compared to the traditional approach
|
10:06 |
: Arbitration money, free agent signings, workload issues, pitcher buy-in. But those are mostly overcomeable.
|
10:06 |
: First you have to find an Andrew Miller…
|
10:06 |
: that too
|
10:06 |
: What’s the going rate for craft beer at those parks?
|
10:06 |
: Usually they only a buck or two more. Weirdly.
|
10:07 |
: What are the chances that a ball hit that hard at that angle is not a hit?
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10:07 |
: Will monitor Daren Willman’s feed on twitter for ya
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10:07 |
: Yeah but it wasn’t 350 or 200. it was 300, which is where outs are.
|
10:08 |
: How do you get that StatCast info? Is it on BaseballSavant?
|
10:08 |
: Daren Willman (who runs baseball savant, works for MLB now) sometimes tweets out % chance of a hit on plays like that
|
10:08 |
: But yes, you could use the site itself to download all the pitch data and make your own calculations
|
10:08 | : yah they even have in game applet here |
10:09 |
: with xBA for each ball based on velocity, angle
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10:09 |
: That Montero ball had a .421 xBA, so you were more right than me!
|
10:09 |
: Carl Edwards Jr is formerly known as CJ Edwards, right?
|
10:09 |
: Yes.
|
10:10 |
: So my car got towed because my new place didn’t tell me I needed a parking pass. Therefor I missed the first five innings. Can you tell me what’s been going on in haiku form?
|
10:10 |
: I will always think of him as Carl’s Jr, and get hungry.
|
10:11 |
: front/back door sinkers
|
10:11 |
: the strike zone is terrible
|
10:11 |
: Starting Pitchers Good / Some Loud Outs But No Runs Scored / Please Go Just Three Hours
|
10:12 |
: and well done Ryan
|
10:12 |
: Oops, one syllable off
|
10:12 |
: Good thing no one is watching
|
10:12 |
: Joe West is so enthusiastic.
|
10:13 |
: I ?? Curveballs
|
10:14 |
: Both starters quite good / big double play in the fifth / hottest Cub: Bryant
|
10:14 |
: It is a tight game. Lead off hits did not yield runs. Late drama to come
|
10:14 |
Both starters go less than five Yet there are no runs |
10:14 |
: Eno, is CJ’s fastball one of the best in baseball? 17% whiffs, 58% grounders.
|
10:14 |
: Second best spin rate. Yes.
|
10:15 |
Game One is scoreless so far Relievers in now |
10:16 |
: Where do you find spint rate?
|
10:16 |
: Man, I love me some downtown ballparks
|
10:16 |
: damn.
|
10:16 |
: Starters pulled in fifth/ lindor hits a double play / it is miller time
|
10:16 |
: Have you ever had the pleasure of sitting on the rooftops?
|
10:16 |
: That link is bigger than Joe West
|
10:17 |
: Me, no. Been to Wrigley just once and sat under the upper deck on the 1st base side
|
10:17 |
: Kershaw was pitching though so that was fun
|
10:18 |
: Wrigley isn’t downtown.
|
10:18 |
: Fair
|
10:19 |
: All of Chicago is downtown to me, having not lived in very many large cities 🙂
|
10:19 |
: Parks in cities though, versus in a sea of parking lots, are great.
|
10:19 |
: Yes
|
10:19 |
: SD, SF, great for this. MIN.
|
10:19 |
: Where are you located Ryan?
|
10:19 |
: I’m in Austin
|
10:19 |
: Baltimore is pretty good too, Eno
|
10:20 |
: yeah, duh. Better than both NYC.
|
10:20 |
: Yes, OPACY is so great
|
10:20 |
: Wow
|
10:21 |
: I’ll never bemoan the Miller / Rodriguez trade the O’s made in 2014
|
10:21 |
: certainly not the way Eduardo has pitched
|
10:21 |
: Yeah, even at the time though it was the right move
|
10:22 |
Which team scores the first run?
Cubs (39.2% | 55 votes)
Indians (60.7% | 85 votes)
Total Votes: 140
|
10:23 |
: Obviously this has been great pitching, but looking at the Baseball Savant applet (which I didn’t know about before) – no barreled balls yet this game. That seems surprising
|
10:24 |
: Which player gets a big hit off the bench? (And you can say Schwarber if you really want to BE boring)
|
10:24 |
: Jake Arrieta in the 18th inning
|
10:24 |
: There are balls hit hard in this game, although mostly on th ground.
|
10:24 |
: Danny Salazar…how’s that for not boring
|
10:25 |
: Almora
|
10:25 |
: Perez coming up big this postseason
|
10:25 |
: Montero’s sure seemed barreled
|
10:25 |
: launch angle 18 which is a little low
|
10:26 |
: Who is the Indians backup catcher?
|
10:26 |
: Michael Martinez… who?
|
10:27 |
: Yan Gomes, it looks like
|
10:28 |
: After he’s in, CLE will have Guyer and Crisp and that’s it
|
10:28 |
: So is Miller done no matter what? Given theyd like him to pitch the next 2 nights ideally?
|
10:28 |
: How do you play this with Miller on deck?
|
10:28 |
: 0% chance Miller hits, right? I would hope.
|
10:29 |
: Fascinating situation. Can’t wait to see what Francona does
|
10:29 |
: Davis is going to drive him. Saves Francona’s bacon.
|
10:29 |
: Rajai Davis bomb incoming
|
10:29 |
: Miller is hitting a monster dong. You heard it here first
|
10:30 |
: Ruh-roh
|
10:30 |
: Oops
|
10:30 |
: Very close to making our poll correct, here
|
10:30 |
: Cameron calling for the squeeze
|
10:31 |
: WALK HIM NOW!!
|
10:31 |
: Interesting strategy
|
10:31 |
: Then you essentially force Miller out of the game
|
10:32 |
: Why is Michael Martinez that far off the bag….
|
10:32 |
: Safe? He was safe
|
10:32 |
: Seems safe to me
|
10:32 |
: Either that or the ol’ not-enough-to-overturn
|
10:32 |
: Safe
|
10:33 |
: not enough evidence
|
10:33 |
: double play time
|
10:33 |
: Calling another catcher pickoff attempt this AB.
|
10:34 |
: Good job, FanGraphs chat!
|
10:34 |
: BACON SAVED!
|
10:34 |
: oof, Davis
|
10:34 |
: Rajai wyd
|
10:34 |
: someone needs to GIF that slide he was so dead
|
10:34 |
: What the heck is Davis doing?
|
10:34 |
: tootblan city
|
10:35 |
: Is Soler’s arm considered good?
|
10:35 |
: UZR has his arm at -3.1 runs for his career. DRS at -3
|
10:36 |
: I like Davis’ back slide. That’s a first for me.
|
10:36 |
: Kiley had a 55 on Soler’s arm at the end of 2014.
|
10:36 |
: A 2 run lead is huge in this scenario. Worth the risked out for a man on third with 1 out again
|
10:37 |
: Well look at where Kiley is now, so who cares about his opinion!
|
10:37 |
: He’s athletic. I thought the slide was silly, beautiful, great, and also looked like he was dead when the call came through. throw was great, but he gave up on the ball early.
|
10:37 |
: Yeah, Kiley is only entrusted to help rebuild a franchise 😉
|
10:38 |
: Oh wow
|
10:38 |
: wow
|
10:38 |
: Wow
|
10:38 |
: Wowie
|
10:38 |
: I’m going to look away from twitter because mathematically it’s actually faster to dive to the base.
|
10:38 |
: Oh. Safe.
|
10:38 |
: Safe.
|
10:39 |
: Out.
|
10:39 |
: (This is like Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck)
|
10:39 |
: safe
|
10:39 |
: Looked out to me…
|
10:40 |
: Everyone sing along!
|
10:41 |
: Bill Murray officially unhinged
|
10:41 |
: Bill Murray ??en fuego.
|
10:41 |
: Dammit.. the X factor Bill Murray
|
10:42 |
: He did come here to drink beer.
|
10:42 |
: Bill Murrah has the highest WPA in this game
|
10:42 |
: Bill Murray is having more fun than anyone there.
|
10:42 |
: Heyward catch that? I think so. I love that man.
|
10:42 |
: Yes.
|
10:42 |
: Eno, only if your dive is timed like perfect. If you hit the ground much at all before hand then you are slower. Not sure which would be the case here.
|
10:43 |
: He was close to perfect and close to perfect is faster. You fly through the air and have gravity to aid you.
|
10:43 |
: If sprinters were allowed to dive they would.
|
10:44 |
: Is it faster to let the ball go through your legs or field it?
|
10:44 |
: so shaw -> otero -> allen?
|
10:45 |
: I think they try and squeeze Miller into Otero’s uniform and see if anyone notices
|
10:45 |
: If this ends 1-0 it’s like the opposite of what we all that going in.
|
10:46 |
: Oh god I’m sorry there was a whole other page of chats I just found.
|
10:46 |
: Bill Murray is trashed.
|
10:46 |
: Only way to do that.
|
10:46 |
: That’s a baseball thing I dream of doing and will never do.
|
10:46 |
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10:47 |
: 20 mph gusts of wind, lol
|
10:47 | : A sprinter won a gold medal at the Olympics because she dived across the finish line. |
10:47 |
: yeah but they ruled it a fall right? rules say you can’t do it, AFAIK
|
10:47 |
: Am I correct in my belief that there hasn’t been a single deeply hit ball all night?
|
10:47 |
: So I put a $10 bet on the game going over 20.5 runs at +5700. Guess I’m not going to win that, am I?
|
10:48 |
: Before or after your car got towed.
|
10:48 |
: Perez, Montero, Conteras only players to hit a ball > 300 ft tonight
|
10:48 |
: It was ruled legal. I think other sprinters came to her defense and said it happens more than you think
|
10:48 |
: Last line of that sbnation article: “A dive is legal, and this time it won a gold medal for Miller.”
|
10:48 |
: well I can’t read. so there.
|
10:49 |
: Lonnie is so bad
|
10:49 |
: What’s up Chisenbutt
|
10:49 |
: Lonald
|
10:50 |
: Soler hot dogged a triple
|
10:50 |
: Baez time
|
10:50 |
: Could have been a home run
|
10:50 |
: Is it hot-dogging when you expect it to go out of play?
|
10:50 |
: International feed commenting on how dead the ballpark was in terms of fan noise, aaaaand then: “What happened in right field?!” from Vasgersian. Reasonable response to that event.
|
10:51 |
: Yeah I guess he thought he was out. He still runs well, is what I was talking about but did a poor job of.
|
10:51 |
: Wind? Or Lonnie just sucks?
|
10:51 |
: Lonnie’s not great out there.
|
10:52 |
: Baez–still the Best Young Player in Baseball?
|
10:52 |
: Let’s see what happens next and decide then, I think.
|
10:53 |
: One more out from him and I say they trade him.
|
10:53 |
: Baez is a good player whose happened to have an exciting postseason. I don’t think he’s going to be an MVP candidate anytime soon
|
10:53 |
: I dunno. I used to think he wouldn’t be a major leaguer.
|
10:54 |
: They mentioned gravity helping the acceleration on the diving article, but how would gravity accelerate you in the X(along the baseline) direction? In a free fall situation gravity would pull you closer to the ground but it not along the baseline.
|
10:54 |
: He put up a 94 wRC+. That, combined with his good defense and base running, makes him a good player. I think anymore is asking for huge improvements in his approach at the plate
|
10:54 |
: The base is on the ground, so you’re getting horizontal as quickly as possible. You’re pushing your body to the point of the bag. It’s a diagonal thing.
|
10:56 |
World Series Science: don’t dive into 1st base. Instant a runner leaves his feet, he slows down. May have cost Royals a run and the game.
|
10:57 |
Actually I think diving was prob right decision in this case, but should have not hit ground prior to touching 1B…. twitter.com/i/web/status/7…
|
10:57 |
: If you aren’t pushing on the ground with a foot, you are flying through the air. You could fly right at the bag.
|
10:58 |
: But you only need your foot to contact the bag, not your hand. Your foot is closer to the ground than your hand.
|
10:58 |
: see my last tweet.
|
10:59 |
: I trust Bill Nye over Eno. Sorry, Eno.
|
10:59 |
: If you get your science from Bill Nye, you might want to study ACTUAL science…
|
11:00 |
: When you dive, you accelerate with your quad which is a much stronger muscle.
|
11:00 |
: I trust eno over bill nye any day of the week
|
11:00 |
: That too, you’re jumping at the thing. If I wanted something I would jump at it.
|
11:01 |
: As someone who recently graduated with a physics degree I’m going with Bill Nye on this one
|
11:01 |
: He’s assuming your foot hits the ground again, I think.
|
11:01 |
: as in, pushing forward.
|
11:01 |
: Nye oversimplifies it I think. Of course the runner’s body as a whole slows down once he leaves the ground. But diving gives a runner more extension beyond the center of their mass, which could make up for it.
|
11:02 |
: There’s only one way to solve this. Foot race to first base between Eno (diving) and Science Guy (running through.) Conclusive results to follow.
|
11:02 |
: If Schwarber gets a hold of one this inning, they/we will never stop talking about him.
|
11:03 |
: Anyway, maybe I’m wrong. But I think of it as geometry. Both objects are in flight, one could reach forward as far as possible given that situation.
|
11:04 |
: this game is getting baseball’d so hard so far
|
11:04 |
: Would Schwarber hitting a game tying or go ahead HR be the Gibson HR of our generation?
|
11:04 |
: I think all of twitter/media/Wrigley would implode immediately.
|
11:05 |
: What if Gibson did what he did in the age of cell phones and social media
|
11:05 |
: You get a bigger push off your last stride if you’re not trying to stay upright, surely?
|
11:05 |
: That’s part of the guys’ argument I talked to. If you change the angle of your last push and dive forward you’re making the angles line up with your longest dimension.
|
11:06 |
: It’s Eno’s favorite man crush
|
11:06 |
: Bryan Shaw is pretty nasty with that 95 mph cutter.
|
11:06 |
: That sure looked good from here
|
11:07 |
: Hey so in the topic of the Cleveland Indians in the World Series, I was watching the end of Major League, which ends in a walkoff, 2 base suicide squeeze, and I was wondering if that’s ever happened before?
|
11:07 |
: That cutter
|
11:07 |
: Schwarbertime
|
11:08 |
: High strike
|
11:08 |
: I think I’m fine with Shaw here
|
11:08 |
: Looks a bit nervous
|
11:09 |
: That’s so lame
|
11:09 |
: I honestly hate bryan shaw’s face
|
11:09 |
: May the Schwab be with you…that’s gotta be like 20 grade punning
|
11:09 |
: Anti-climax
|
11:09 |
: That facial hair for Shaw…
|
11:09 |
: Yeah that’s pretty bad
|
11:10 |
: So, Schwarber was only about 300 feet short of the fence there.
|
11:10 |
: Fowler. Really wish the Orioles had signed him
|
11:11 |
: Fowler started switch hitting in the minors and is more comfortable from the right.
|
11:11 |
: What are your feelings on Schwarber’s future? Obviously the power is off the charts, but will he hit for enough AVG to make up for the defense/base running short comings. Is he a Chris Davis type?
|
11:12 |
: Worst case scenario he’s Jay Bruce with a better bat. Or he could be someone’s awesome first baeman. (intentional error)
|
11:12 |
: Ryan, which rando are the o’s going to sign to hit 40 taters this year
|
11:13 |
: Man, I dunno. Angel Pagan?
|
11:13 |
: Lind, maybe
|
11:13 |
: Colby Rasmus.
|
11:13 |
: Andruw Jones, comeback player of the year at 39.
|
11:14 |
: I could see Rasmus
|
11:14 |
: ANDRUW
|
11:14 |
: Julio Franco.
|
11:14 |
: mitch moreland?
|
11:14 |
: Grichuk going nuts in Baltimore some year is fact
|
11:14 |
: Grichuk. Jealous. Cardinals hit on nearly every prospect they develop
|
11:14 |
: A-Rod hinted at a return next year…
|
11:14 |
: Trevor Plouffe.
|
11:14 |
: I would pay lots of money to see A-Rod in an Orioles uniform
|
11:15 |
: Wilin Rosario
|
11:15 |
: All Yankees get booed at Camden Yards, but he hears the worst of it
|
11:16 |
: I thought Tex got it pretty bad
|
11:16 |
: That’s true, him being from Maryland
|
11:16 |
: Did you all know that Grichuk was taken one pick before Trout? Because I only hear it every game during the regular season
|
11:17 |
: I did not
|
11:17 |
: Did Chisenhall buy a ticket? He’s in the RF seats.
|
11:17 |
: Jesus, can you imagine Trout on the Cardinals, with their ability to turn shit into gold. He would hit .450 with 60 HRs/70 SBs every year
|
11:18 |
: the list of guys taken before trout is, in hindsight, gruesome
|
11:18 |
: Kind of a Sam Bowie / Michael Jordan situation
|
11:18 |
: Although Grichuk is good (from what I recall)
|
11:19 |
: Can Mike Trout name everyone who was drafted ahead of him like Draymond Green?
|
11:19 |
: Having spoken to him a bunch, I say 95% no.
|
11:20 |
: Is there any methodology to figure out the biggest upsets in WS history?
|
11:20 |
: we could use WAR I guess.
|
11:20 |
: Probably would have to do the BaseRuns for each team prior to the series, accounting for any roster changes between the end of the regular season & the beginning of the WS
|
11:20 |
: Albert Pujols can apparently name everyone drafted before him.
|
11:20 |
: He’s crafty.
|
11:21 |
: worth pointing out angels drafted grichuk… they had back to back.
|
11:22 |
: donavan tate, matt hobgood, jiovanni mier — all taken b4 trout
|
11:22 |
: Mier was going to be the business at short.
|
11:22 |
: when trout is 38 I think we should allow him to take steroids to settle the argument that not everyone can do what Bonds did.
|
11:22 |
: OH MY LORD
|
11:23 |
: Michael Martinez vs. Aroldis Chapman. This is why I watch October baseball.
|
11:23 |
: My first emoji and it’s the most dad
|
11:24 |
: Chapman, Melancon, or Jansen?
|
11:24 |
: Jansen for me, assuming we are talking about starting a baseball team
|
11:24 |
: definitely not Melancon unless he’s like 10% of the other guys
|
11:24 |
: (did I say that out loud)
|
11:25 |
: We need 100 emojis or this chat isn’t hip
|
11:25 |
: Jansen
|
11:25 |
: Melancon for longevity
|
11:25 |
: Whatever happened to Craig Kimbrel? When I hear about closers all I hear is Miller, Chapman, and Jensen.
|
11:25 |
: melancon makes me angry because it should be spelled melanson
|
11:26 |
: Kimbrel’s walk rate has ticked up a bit. I think he was injured this year too?
|
11:27 |
: Also, he’s not a free agent
|
11:27 |
: I mean he’s the argument not to sign these guys for a bunch of years but if you sign him for a bunch of years you might turn him into great prospects at the deadline, which I guess figures in.
|
11:28 |
: Rizzo with the fancy feet over there at first
|
11:29 |
: I read an article on his footwork on the bag and how he doesn’t toe the corner like most guys but puts more of his foot on the base. Can’t find it tho
|
11:30 |
Do the Cubs tie the game or walk it off?
Yes (45.2% | 57 votes)
No (54.7% | 69 votes)
Total Votes: 126
|
11:30 |
: I voted yes because I love baseball.
|
11:30 |
: yes
|
11:31 |
: I voted yes cause Rizzo
|
11:31 |
: Allen has a high spin rate curve and fastball and the fastball is really fast. He nasty, and somehow bat got to ball.
|
11:31 |
: no
|
11:31 |
: Lance McCullers would be the nastiest closer.
|
11:31 |
: Vince Velasquez would too
|
11:31 |
: pretty sure joe west was literally just asleep
|
11:32 |
: Walk –> triple play because cubs gonna cub
|
11:32 |
: SETH. LUGO.
|
11:32 |
: joe west does not give a damn about checked swing calls
|
11:33 |
: Time of game so far, 3.5 hours
|
11:33 |
: In a 1-0 game
|
11:33 |
: Filthy curve
|
11:33 |
: That’s a sexy pitch.
|
11:34 |
: oh my it’s Heyward
|
11:34 |
: This narrative writes itself.
|
11:34 |
: heyward is going to homer
|
11:34 |
: heyward hits a walk off dinger here and the entire world explodes and we all die
|
11:34 |
: This at bat basically cements his narrative, right?
|
11:34 |
: Am I still worth my contract?
|
11:35 |
: This is perfect
|
11:35 |
: As a Braves fan I really hope Heyward pulls this off. He needs it as much as Chicago needs this WS.
|
11:35 |
: Cue theme to the Natural and begin broadcasting in slo mo now…
|
11:35 |
: Cubs have Almora and Ross on the bench
|
11:35 |
: If Hayward homers is this like Lloyd Christmas screaming “and you totally redeemed yourself!!!”
|
11:35 |
: he is a really good dude. deserves something to happen for him
|
11:35 |
: Heyward is going to walk here no question
|
11:35 |
: If it’s a seeing-eye dribbler that still scores the run, do we love Heyward?
|
11:36 |
: Cubs WE at 13.8%
|
11:36 |
: Wut
|
11:36 |
: ohmygodtheseeingeyedribbler
|
11:36 |
: TOPSPIN!
|
11:36 |
: OH MY GOD
|
11:36 |
: This still cements his narrative.
|
11:37 |
: Napoli Buckner!!!
|
11:37 |
: The only dribbler Heyward gets tonight is at a urinal
|
11:37 |
: do we still love heyward
|
11:37 |
: WE up to 19.4%
|
11:37 |
: Baez is literally going to swing out of his shoes here
|
11:38 |
: Don’t know a lot about the Indians roster, but isn’t there a defensive replacement for Nap? He’s got to be there worst fielder right now
|
11:38 |
: Indians have Guyer left
|
11:38 |
: he’s in the OF now
|
11:38 |
: Nope, I lied, their bench is empty
|
11:38 |
: baez walk-off onto waveland calling it
|
11:38 |
: Baez wants the ball is right
|
11:39 |
: that was down the pipe, he missed it
|
11:39 |
: Middle-middle.
|
11:39 |
: keep ur head on the ball — he pulled up and out
|
11:39 |
: strikeout coming
|
11:39 |
: LI = 1000
|
11:39 |
: Baez Puigs this at bat.
|
11:39 |
: Enthusiastic K coming up!
|
11:39 |
: This game has been awesome
|
11:40 |
: Indeed
|
11:40 |
: sorta held up probably
|
11:41 |
: Baez lays down the 2-strike bunt!
|
11:41 |
: Eno called it
|
11:41 |
: oh boy!
|
11:41 |
: that was high!
|
11:41 |
: I think he held up
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11:41 |
: cheese
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11:41 |
: That was a very human reaction from Baez, big sigh.
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11:41 |
: Javy is still Javy
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11:41 |
: you know your pitching and beer.
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11:41 |
: Fantastic game
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11:41 |
: Thanks guys, this game and chat was great
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11:41 |
: That was an enjoyable game of beisbol.
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11:42 |
: BLOWN AWAY
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11:42 |
: Hey Ryan you got your balls to the wall 1-0 game wish
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11:42 |
: Hey guys! thanks for hanging out! Thanks to Ryan for not yelling at me!
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11:42 |
: That was a lot of fun. Thanks chat friends!
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11:42 |
: 3:30+ 1-0 game yayyyyyyyyyy
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11:42 |
: Indians bullpen is better than … everything?
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11:42 |
: god i love the collective disappointment of 50 thousand people
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11:42 |
: Anytime Eno, and likewise!
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11:42 |
: thanks fellas — kluber tomorrow — looking good for indians
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11:42 |
: Thanks for making this so much fun y’all!
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11:43 |
: I have to put my children to bed I think, I love you all
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11:43 |
: Good night!
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11:43 |
: Party at my house tonight!
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With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.