2017 ALDS Game 5 Live Blog
| 8:04 |
: Happy Game 5 Day everyone!
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| 8:04 |
: This should be a fun one.
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| 8:04 |
: And barring the most Nationals 9th inning ever, we’ll get another Game 5 tomorrow.
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| 8:05 |
:
I am rooting for
Cleveland (51.3% | 152 votes)
New York (48.6% | 144 votes)
Total Votes: 296
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| 8:05 |
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I think
Cleveland will win (57.6% | 166 votes)
New York will win (42.3% | 122 votes)
Total Votes: 288
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| 8:06 |
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CC Sabathia gets how many outs
Less than 3 (4.0% | 11 votes)
4-6 (12.8% | 35 votes)
7-9 (31.1% | 85 votes)
9-12 (29.3% | 80 votes)
12-15 (14.6% | 40 votes)
16+ (lol sure) (8.0% | 22 votes)
Total Votes: 273
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| 8:10 |
: For the record, I’m taking 4-6 on Sabathia’s outs.
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| 8:11 |
: 4 incredible hours to kick this day off! Let’s hope the nightcap is equally entertaining!
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| 8:11 |
: NYY fan…I am oddly totally calm…if Kluber comes out and is Kluber, how mad can I be? Been such a fun ride with so much promise going forward, too.
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| 8:12 |
: 1 out
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| 8:12 |
: green or gray first in relief?
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| 8:12 |
: Green
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| 8:12 |
: I doubt they use Gray unless one of the big four gets rocked.
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| 8:12 |
: Do you have any issues with Baker using Madson and Doolittle to get the last 6 outs with a 5 run lead and a game tomorrow? It strikes me as a cautious but reasonable decision.
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| 8:13 |
: Nope
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| 8:13 |
: They’ve barely pitched in a while.
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| 8:13 |
: Which team has improved their odds of winning compared to when the series started?
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| 8:13 |
: Yankees
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| 8:14 |
: So is the FS1 strike zone just narrow or have the umpires been calling a wide zone all series?
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| 8:14 |
: Would guess it’s the rulebook zone.
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| 8:14 |
: The regular strike zone is a bit wider than the rulebook zone.
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| 8:14 |
: DIDI!
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| 8:14 |
: Crushed.
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| 8:14 |
: whoopsie
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| 8:14 |
: CALL HIM SIR!
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| 8:15 |
: Not an ideal start for Kluber.
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| 8:15 |
: Middle-middle on that home run…eesh
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| 8:16 |
: Easy to say now, but just feels like the Yankees are gonna spoil the Indians awesome year.
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| 8:16 |
: 27% hit probability
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| 8:16 |
: cashman got didi for shane green
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| 8:16 |
: If you’re Tito, does somebody start warming now? Or is there another run or so of leash?
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| 8:16 |
: It’s Kluber. Leash is a lot longer.
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| 8:16 |
: They don’t have anyone down there besides Miller as good as Kluber first time through the order.
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| 8:18 |
: Okay, now that it’s a commercial, a quick aside on the afternoon game.
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| 8:18 |
: That was one of the best postseason pitching performances I’ve ever seen.
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| 8:18 |
: Strasburg’s change-up was insanely great. Reminiscent of ’99 Pedro Martinez.
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| 8:19 |
: I don’t know how much the under-the-weather thing was true, or the Nationals just telling stories, or whatever. But Strasburg has now thrown 19 postseason innings and allowed 1 earned run.
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| 8:19 |
: He’s endured a lot of crap for the Strasburg Shutdown thing and the Nats playoff failures.
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| 8:20 |
: But if there’s going to be a narrative about Strasburg in October now, it needs to be that he’s been nothing but awesome.
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| 8:21 |
: And the next time someone tells you that we can measure someone’s heart, character, or some other moral aspect of their being based on how they perform in the playoffs, tell that person to go jump in a lake.
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| 8:21 |
: Strasburg put the “soft” story in the ground today.
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| 8:21 |
: And everyone who pushed it the last few years should be embarrassed.
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| 8:21 |
: /end rant
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| 8:22 |
: Yeah, but we still have the Kershaw narrative. 🙂
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| 8:22 |
: What about the Kershaw and Price playoff underperformance story?
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| 8:22 |
: All of it is BS.
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| 8:23 |
: Great players are great players. They are great players because they’ve already proven they can play under pressure.
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| 8:23 |
: No one plays in October if they can’t handle pressure.
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| 8:23 |
: I know batting lineups make a minimal difference but having Werth and Kipnis bat 2nd seems less than ideal.
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| 8:23 |
: Yeah, batting order is overrated, but these are not great decisions.
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| 8:24 |
: Did Jose Ramirez get replaced by the RP from the Braves?
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| 8:24 |
: CC lookin sharp.
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| 8:24 |
: it’s amazing how mediocre the Indians lineup looks right now
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| 8:24 |
: In the case of Werth the bigger issue is that he’s starting in the first place.
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| 8:26 |
: I’m not sure how I feel about these live blogs. I’m in the chats at work but now I feel like I should be working.
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| 8:26 |
: This is an excellent day as a Dodger fan, the Cubs used Lester for 55 pitches and now the Nats will play a game 5 with a so-so starter and the ability to use Scherzer in relief. Whoever wins will have a wrecked NLCS rotation.
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| 8:26 |
: Yup.
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| 8:26 |
: Scherzer is 100% pitching tomorrow.
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| 8:26 |
: I’d guess it goes Gio/Scherzer/Madson/Doolittle, and everyone else watches.
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| 8:26 |
: I’m pro-bullpenning, but if (IF!) CC looks like this in the 3rd, I can’t take him out.
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| 8:27 |
: I’d let him get up to 9 outs.
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| 8:27 |
: If he goes up 9, 9 down, I’m still not letting him face Lindor unless they’re up 10 or something.
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| 8:27 |
: That’s a bold prediction considering Dusty is making the decisions.
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| 8:28 |
: Dusty takes too much crap. He pulled Scherzer at the right time in Game 3, pulled Stras at the right time in Game 4.
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| 8:28 |
: He does some dumb stuff, but he’s not an idiot.
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| 8:29 |
: Who do the Yankees go to first after CC?
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| 8:29 |
: Green, probably
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| 8:29 |
: I’d guess it goes Green/Kahnle/Robertson/Chapman
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| 8:29 |
: Is there any manager that doesn’t do some dumb stuff?
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| 8:29 |
: Nope
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| 8:29 |
: What if CC looked like he was on his very top game putting down 9 straight? How big is the difference between 4th inning CC vs the next reliever in?
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| 8:29 |
: History shows “being on your game” isn’t really predictive.
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| 8:30 |
: And CC is just not at the level of any of NYY’s RPs
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| 8:30 |
: A non-zero reason I’m nervous about pulling CC is I really think Girardi will use Jaime Garcia at some point and I’ll be under the desk
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| 8:30 |
: I doubt you see Garcia today unless the game goes 132 innings
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| 8:31 |
: Why doesn’t Girardi seem to trust Betances anymore? That slurve is deadly.
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| 8:31 |
: He worked his way back into the circle of trust, then he threw like 5 pitches to the backstop in Game 4.
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| 8:31 |
: What manager does the least dumb stuff?
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| 8:31 |
: Dave Roberts
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| 8:32 |
: If all the Yankees pitchers were fresh, and CC was out of the bullpen (Severino starting), where would you rank him? Chap, Green, Robertson, Kahnle ahead of him. Anyone else?
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| 8:32 |
: Betances, Warren, Gray
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| 8:33 |
: Can you imagine how much grief Dusty would get if he pulled a pitcher in the middle of an at bat, and the new guy gave up a grand slam? Not saying it was the wrong move, just that we seem to fit a lot of narratives to our perceptions. Dusty’s had a fine series. The Nats have won when they scored more than a single run.
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| 8:33 |
: If CC is 9 up 9 down Girardi should take CC out, but will he?
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| 8:33 |
: Probably not
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| 8:33 |
: Who would you start tomorrow if you were the Nats?
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| 8:33 |
: Gio
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| 8:34 |
: I’m not saying Ellsbury is in the lineup to draw a catcher’s interference, but he isn’t in there to NOT draw a catcher’s interference.
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| 8:36 |
: If roark = gio, why start gio on short rest?
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| 8:36 |
: Gio will be full rest tomorrow.
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| 8:36 |
: Hahaha!
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| 8:36 |
: Ha! He did it!
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| 8:36 |
: HE DID IT. INTERFERENCE !
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| 8:36 |
: Amazing!
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| 8:36 |
: ZACK IS A PSYCHIC
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| 8:36 |
: Catchers interference!
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| 8:36 |
: INTERFERENCE!
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| 8:36 |
: ZACK I NEED THE LOTTO NUMBERS
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| 8:36 |
: Zack nails it.
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| 8:36 |
: When will they ever learn?
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| 8:36 |
: Full credit:
Ellsbury is about due for a catcher’s interference…
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| 8:37 |
: this might be in the top 3 most commented events from this game
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| 8:37 |
: Fray-zhuh missed a hang-uh.
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| 8:38 |
: These chats make baseball more enjoyable, if that’s possible.
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| 8:38 |
: Thank you Edwin for coming back. I couldnt take another Brantley AB
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| 8:38 |
: here comes edwin — any chance he can put enough weight on his ankle to hit effectively?
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| 8:38 |
: They wouldn’t start a bat-only guy if he couldn’t hit.
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| 8:40 |
: CC should sweep the leg here.
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| 8:40 |
: Okay, Dean Anna. Maybe you didn’t have an MLB career because of your black heart.
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| 8:41 |
: so, the yankees already have cc sabathia and didi gregorius, if they could sign bb king and ee cummings, they would have all of the cup sizes covered
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| 8:41 |
: Edwin-CC matchup is his most career PAs without a homer. (Yeah, I quoted BFP matchup stats!)
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| 8:41 |
: Just gotta get their electronics from hh Gregg
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| 8:42 |
: They need aa Milne
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| 8:42 |
: Wouldn’t they need aa Milne, as well?
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| 8:42 |
: AA milne too
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| 8:42 |
: I can’t believe EE is walking
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| 8:42 |
: Kevinthecomic hasn’t spent enough time on the internet if he thinks cup sizes end at EE
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| 8:42 |
: Did Francona just grab seeds out of the coach’s hood next to him?
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| 8:43 |
: RE can’t believe EE is walking. He’s not he’s striking out.
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| 8:43 |
: I only have two outs left on my CC vote.
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| 8:43 |
: Can’t say it’s looking good so far.
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| 8:44 |
: please do a game chat for NLDS game 5 tomorrow
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| 8:44 |
: We will
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| 8:44 |
: My heart can’t take a game like this. Can Fangraphs do a piece on heart attacks by fanbase in do or die games?
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| 8:45 |
: HIPAA won’t let us
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| 8:45 |
: Will we have game chats for all WS games?
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| 8:45 |
: Yup
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| 8:45 |
: Heart attack guess:
By volume, NYY By severity, CLE or CHC |
| 8:45 |
: Will there be pizza at any time during the chats?
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| 8:45 |
: Are you buying?
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| 8:46 |
: Yeah, we getting more CC.
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| 8:46 |
: CC is gonna go 6-7 and not give up a run.
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| 8:46 |
: On sports and hearts: http://time.com/4969707/watching-sports-heart-risk/
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| 8:47 |
: another good one, albeit older https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/diehard-sports-fans-face-hea…
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| 8:47 |
: No way CC goes past 6, but I expect him to go 5 unless something goes wrong. Girardi will give him the shot at the W at least. Of course, something could definitely go wrong.
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| 8:47 |
: Not if the game is close.
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| 8:48 |
: They’re not going to push CC when his pitch count elevates and they have so many other options.
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| 8:48 |
: For what it’s worth, Jackson saw four pitches, none of which were in the FS1 strike zone. We’ve established that it’s smaller than the actual called zone, which begs the question, why wouldn’t they use the actual zone?
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| 8:48 |
: “Actual zone” is somewhat nebulous and depends on the umpire/catcher/pitcher combo.
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| 8:48 |
: Easier to just use standard dimensions than tweak it every game.
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| 8:49 |
: As an engineer: quit makin’ work, Mitchell.
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| 8:49 |
: Which player in tonight’s game is most likely to go in the HOF?
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| 8:49 |
: Fun question
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| 8:49 |
: Chapman, probably?
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| 8:50 |
: CC is a borderline candidate given how high the standards for SP are right now.
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| 8:50 |
: Easier for an RP to get in. And Chapman’s one of the most dominant RPs ever.
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| 8:50 |
: Just too early to say Lindor?
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| 8:51 |
: Yeah.
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| 8:51 |
: That’s a damn shame. CC is a hall of famer, but I agree the voting currently says he’s borderline. Hoping that changes by the time he’s up for vote.
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| 8:51 |
: At some point, the bar has to come down.
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| 8:51 |
: Or we’re just never going to put SPs in again.
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| 8:51 |
: Is Kluber too late of a bloomer?
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| 8:51 |
: Yeah
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| 8:52 |
: More HOF worth: Sabathia or Mussina?
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| 8:52 |
: Moose, easy.
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| 8:52 |
: If CK22 was injured for the rest of his career, he’d get into the HOF easily right?
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| 8:52 |
: Yeah, probably.
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| 8:53 |
: CK22 is not an acceptable nickname.
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| 8:53 |
: Any particular reason I keep striking out?
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| 8:53 |
: These are good pitchers.
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| 8:54 |
: Record setting is Judge’s forte.
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| 8:54 |
: welp
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| 8:54 |
: Aaron Judge struck out over 200 times this year, breaking the rookie record. Do not be surprised when he strikes out against the best pitchers on the planet
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| 8:55 |
: Someone needs to explain the difference between Zone% and O-Swing% to Matt Vasgersian…
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| 8:55 |
: The Didi game
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| 8:55 |
: Is Didi an extension candidate (2-3 FA years)?
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| 8:56 |
: Sir Didi again!
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| 8:56 |
: Didi out there playing hero ball.
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| 8:56 |
: Dave you forgot that Gregorious is an obvious Hall of Famer
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| 8:56 |
: Double your pleasure, Didi!
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| 8:56 |
: Didi is awesome
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| 8:56 |
: Did to the HOF!
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| 8:56 |
: Greglorious!!!!!!!
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| 8:56 |
: Wow…
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| 8:56 |
: Am I going to be memed again
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| 8:56 |
: lol baseball is random as shit
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| 8:57 |
: Best Yankee shortstop ever
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| 8:57 |
: Jeterwho
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| 8:57 |
: Kluber doesn’t have his good command today, again. Fastball ran out over the middle to Gardy and then a cement mixer slider to Didi
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| 8:58 |
: Re18pect
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| 8:58 |
:
Didi Gregorious has more multi-HR postseason games than Derek Jeter (1)
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| 8:59 |
: Does your leash for CC extend at all now?
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| 8:59 |
: Nope.
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| 8:59 |
: What would you have said if before the series I told you the Yankees would put up 9 runs in 6 innings off kluber?
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| 8:59 |
: You can’t predict baseball.
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| 9:00 |
: I think we all expected the Indians would win the series as long as they could survive starting Kluber
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| 9:01 |
: Time for Cle to go to the bullpen?
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| 9:01 |
: I’d probably stick with Kluber second time through the order.
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| 9:01 |
: But I wouldn’t let him face top of the order again.
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| 9:01 |
: Did winning their way into the #1 seed in the AL and therefore drawing the red hot Yankees actually hurt Cleveland? I. E. Would it have been better to face Boston…
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| 9:01 |
: Yeah, probably.
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| 9:04 |
: Does “CC has pitched better when his team has the lead” mean his team hasn’t had the lead when he has pitched poorly?
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| 9:04 |
: Funny how that works.
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| 9:04 |
: If he wants to, will C.C. be able to find a two year deal in the offseason?
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| 9:04 |
: Yeah
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| 9:05 |
: That grass is dead.
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| 9:05 |
: what an athlete CC!
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| 9:05 |
: Lol who is pitching for the Yankees and why can’t the Indians hit him?
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| 9:05 |
: So, uh, how is CC actually 21 years old again?
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| 9:05 |
: Is that the most athletic play of my career?
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| 9:05 |
: Wonder if CC will change his stance on bunting now
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| 9:06 |
: I wonder if that divot is going to come into play on a ground ball later.
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| 9:07 |
: So when you said you thought the Dodgers have the best chance of the WS at this point, is that just due to already being in the NLCS where they are favored over either CHC or WAS, or do you think they’re favored against Cleveland or Houston or NYY?
In other words, is it an likelihood of playing in the series or an actual advantage once they’re there in your mind? Fangraphs and 538 projections both have them as underdogs to the the AL |
| 9:07 |
: I think they’re the best team in baseball, and the first round sweep gives them a nice rest advantage heading forward.
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| 9:08 |
: Any team already in an LCS is more likely to win it all than a team still in the DS too.
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| 9:08 |
: So, Dave, you would really, as manager, pull CC now?
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| 9:08 |
: Yes.
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| 9:08 |
: Assuming I could get buy in from the players on the move.
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| 9:08 |
: If it caused the locker room to revolt, then no.
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| 9:08 |
: For who?
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| 9:09 |
: I’d go Green for 2, Robertson for 2, Chapman for 2, Kahnle if anyone got in trouble.
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| 9:09 |
: Aren’t the odds that one of those 4 guys doesn’t have it?
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| 9:10 |
: No.
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| 9:10 |
: Despite people making this claim regularly, there’s no evidence that this is a thing.
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| 9:10 |
: if you’re pulling CC right now you’d be burned by the NY media if they lose
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| 9:11 |
: If you’re managing to the media response, you’re doing it wrong.
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| 9:12 |
: but Dave, aren’t you the media?
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| 9:12 |
: They shouldn’t do it to make me happy either!
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| 9:12 |
: Sure there is. Assuming “having it” is independent between pitchers. The probability of one not having it increases quickly by pitcher. If we assume 50% probability of each pitcher “having it” that means 12.5% chance all 3 pitchers do.
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| 9:13 |
: You’ve invented a fiction that pitchers “don’t have it” regularly.
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| 9:13 |
: For the question “aren’t the odd that one of those guys doesn’t have it” Is the answer more accuratly just that the odds of one of them not having it is not greater than the odds of CC not having it in his next inning?
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| 9:13 |
: Nope. Data on this is pretty clear.
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| 9:14 |
: What about the chance that there is just something about CC tonight that the Indians aren’t seeing well?
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| 9:14 |
: What about the chances the flying spaghetti monster wants the Indians tow in?
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| 9:14 |
: Is there researching showing an SP who goes a perfect 3 innings is likely to sh*t the bed in the 4th? I just think you’re being a little extreme here. We all get the point and agree: Use your bullpen. But isn’t there something to be said for having even more of an advantage if you only need 5 or 4 innings from the pen rather than 6?
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| 9:15 |
: Early game performance is noise, not signal.
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| 9:15 |
: You shouldn’t really change your strategy much based on what your SP is doing.
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| 9:15 |
: Unless he’s throwing 5 mph slower or something.
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| 9:16 |
: “When the pitcher does X, they’re 21 games ulcer .500. When the pitcher does not-X, somehow they’re 21 games under .500!!! It’s incredible!” -Matt Vasgersian
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| 9:16 |
: What the hell is Matt talking about?
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| 9:16 |
: Lol this broadcast
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| 9:16 |
: I know criticizing the announcers has become a bit trite, but this is some grade A BS that they are shoveling about long pitching outings and winning percentage.
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| 9:16 |
: Isn’t this “winning percentage when starter goes X” stuff on the broadcast just mistaking correlation for causation?
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| 9:16 |
: Matt is speaking literal flaming garbage into the air to confuse people everywhere.
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| 9:17 |
: When your pitcher pitches well, the team generally does well.
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| 9:18 |
: This will be controversial, but when you score more runs than the opposing team, you tend to win
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| 9:18 |
: Are they arguing that Kluber should stay in just because? He certainly is not pitching well enough to stay in.
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| 9:18 |
: They just don’t understand baseball in 2017.
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| 9:20 |
: I understand why they are hesitant to take out CC, but they can see Kluber is laboring. If they weren’t so interested in making a point today, they would be supporting taking Kluber out of the game.
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| 9:20 |
: It shouldn’t even pass the sniff test, so if both starters go 6 innings does that mean both teams have a .650 winning percentage?
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| 9:20 |
: Kluber worn out or just weird baseball?
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| 9:20 |
: Weird baseball.
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| 9:21 |
: Matt Vasgersian still pushing this as a “bullpen game”, not understanding Miller can go 2-3, Allen can go 2, and hey, that’s the game.
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| 9:23 |
: So, we know what you think Girardi SHOULD do with CC, but what do you think he WILL do?
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| 9:23 |
: He pitches until there’s guys on.
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| 9:23 |
: Probably 2 guys.
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| 9:24 |
: Indians’ plan was probably something like Kluber 5/Miller 2/Allen 2, no? So this isn’t *that* far off from the original plan. (Other than the score)
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| 9:24 |
: Yep.
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| 9:24 |
: Maybe they let Kluber go 6 if he was dominating, but probably 5+ was the hope.
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| 9:25 |
: How early does Fangraphs go to the ‘pen tonight? Lotta live chats for Cameron this month.
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| 9:25 |
: This is my last one for a little while.
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| 9:25 |
: I’m going to make someone else do tomorrow, then we’ll take a break from them for the first parts of the LCSes.
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| 9:26 |
: See? Shoulda taken CC out.
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| 9:26 |
: Dave you predicted this exact scenario aha. CC allows a hit, I see the camera pan to the ‘pen.
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| 9:26 |
: It’s not rocket science.
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| 9:26 |
: Season on the line, insanely great bullpen well rested; you can’t let your SP get lit up.
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| 9:27 |
: Kipnis gonna K though
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| 9:27 |
: Kipnis batting 2nd against a lefty has never been a good plan.
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| 9:27 |
: Is it hard to get staff to sign up for these chats? A couple nights ago no one could do the late game
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| 9:27 |
: The traffic on those late games is just not worth the time commitment.
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| 9:28 |
: How many people are in here now Dave?
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| 9:28 |
: ~600
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| 9:28 |
: Think Cora has a real shot at the Farrell’s job? As a Sox fan, I’d love that
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| 9:28 |
: Cora is 100% getting one of these jobs.
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| 9:29 |
: He might get to pick where he goes.
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| 9:29 |
: Wow, CC.
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| 9:29 |
: This strike zone is abysmal.
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| 9:30 |
: That wasn’t a strike?
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| 9:30 |
: I hope Joe goes to the pen now, he got 4 great innings out of CC.
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| 9:30 |
: Yikes
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| 9:30 |
: Wow that’s a friendly strike.
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| 9:30 |
: Locating pretty well, huh….
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| 9:30 |
: Says you Angel
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| 9:30 |
: CC is getting the strike zone Bauer got game 1
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| 9:30 |
: Called strike off the plate…of course he’s never looked better, Vasgersian…
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| 9:31 |
: Not a bad zone to have as a pitcher…
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| 9:31 |
: Its been a wide strike zone but its been pretty consistantly wide.
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| 9:32 |
: These are borderline strikes, but this isn’t Livan Hernandez or anything.
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| 9:32 |
: Framing yall. Give the Kraken his due
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| 9:32 |
: Kluber seemed to be getting those same calls on the side edges, he was just not able to hit them as much.
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| 9:33 |
: Surely there’s still the argument that you have to adapt to the zone and protect with 2 strikes, it was a great pitch regardless
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| 9:33 |
: And recognize that Sanchez is a good framer.
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| 9:34 |
: But Dave! He’s bad defensively! NARRATIVE!!!
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| 9:34 |
: To CC’s last slider looked like it could have crossed the back of the plate but shows as a ball since the k-zone graphic covers the front of the plate
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| 9:34 |
: Right. The strike zone is 3D, these graphics are all 2D.
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| 9:34 |
: Indians fan here, give me hope Dave
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| 9:35 |
: Rajai Davis homered off Chapman last year.
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| 9:35 |
: Anything can happen.
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| 9:35 |
: 3 runs are not a lot.
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| 9:35 |
: RE hope for Indians fans, see game two.
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| 9:36 |
: 3 runs is a lot against this bullpen
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| 9:36 |
: Gardner is going work Miller out of the game
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| 9:37 |
: Miller has looked mortal this series. Is he worse than usual, is the Yankees offense just that formidable, or just noise?
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| 9:37 |
: The latter two
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| 9:38 |
: Counterpoint on Hope: Sabathia has more Ks through 4 than he’s had in a game since May.
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| 9:38 |
: This the tallest B vs P matchup in history? lol
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| 9:38 |
: Randy Johnson had to have faced Tony Clark
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| 9:38 |
: that was the worst called strike of the night
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| 9:39 |
: CC having that many Ks is also a point for “anything can happen”
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| 9:39 |
: I couldn’t have hit that second strike with an oar…
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| 9:39 |
: I don’t blame Judge for striking out so much when he is getting strikes called that low.
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| 9:39 |
: A major reason Judge has struggled this series is the ridiculous strike zone he’s gotten
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| 9:39 |
: Sounds like a post idea….
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| 9:40 |
: Didi only hit a single? Bum.
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| 9:40 |
: Mr. October 11th
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| 9:41 |
: Tony Clark: 4-11, 6 K, HR vs Randy Johnson
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| 9:41 |
: I’d say the biggest reason judge has struck out a lot is because he strikes out a lot and the Indians pitchers strike people out a lot, might just be me
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| 9:42 |
: I understand the Judge complaints, but I’d love to hear from umpires on this. They have a hard enough job, how can we expect them to so significantly adjust the low end of the zone for one hitter? PS: we should use technology for calling balls and strikes.
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| 9:42 |
: Also maybe worst matchup for Judge in terms of entire opposing staff. Lots of power righties with good-great breaking stuff AND command.
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| 9:43 |
: Technology isn’t even good enough to give a decent broadcast strike zone and you guys want it actually calling real strikes and balls?
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| 9:43 |
: tech strikes would still require a human to judge where the strike zone starts and stops for each person each at bat…
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| 9:44 |
: Jon Rauch vs Richie Sexson may have happened before.
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| 9:44 |
: Fun fact: Richie Sexson and I live in the same town.
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| 9:44 |
: A few months ago, he apparently almost got in a fight at a little league game because his team had some players ruled ineligible.
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| 9:45 |
: I don’t think I’d want to be the one to tell Richie Sexson that his kid can’t play…
|
| 9:45 |
: Hi Dave in today’s chat, you said that boston red sox analytical department is one of the less funded, and one of the less staffed. Who would you say is the most funded, and crowded ?
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| 9:45 |
: Dodgers.
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| 9:45 |
: It’s huge.
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| 9:45 |
: They have more PhDs than most teams have analysts.
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| 9:46 |
: If the Yankees go on to win this series and let’s say beat the Astros and Dodgers. Would that be the toughest/most impressive playoff run of all time?
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| 9:46 |
: Maybe!
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| 9:46 |
: Are we allowed to pause the bullpen discussion and acknowledge how incredible Sabathia is right now
|
| 9:47 |
: CC ties his postseason high, 9 Ks.
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| 9:47 |
: How do the Yanks rank in analytics? Also how large is the biggest FO in terms of headcount?
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| 9:47 |
: Yankees have a ton of analysts and their FO is huge.
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| 9:48 |
: I’ve been rooting to bring in arms from the pen, but I am enjoying CC right now.
|
| 9:48 |
: I forget, is the times through the order thing, more a pitcher getting tired, or hitters learning and adapting?
|
| 9:48 |
: No one really knows for sure. Some of both, probably.
|
| 9:49 |
: There was a rumor a few months ago that one baseball team had rented / bought a supercomputer cluster. Did anyone ever find out who that was?
|
| 9:49 |
: That happened a few years ago.
|
| 9:49 |
: I’ve heard a few guesses but never confirmation on what team did that.
|
| 9:49 |
: Heat ’em up!
|
| 9:50 |
: Go to Green, go to Green now!
|
| 9:50 |
: Well, that’s 2 base runners and he’s still there…
|
| 9:50 |
: You get him now?
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| 9:50 |
: Yup.
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| 9:50 |
: yes, get him now.
|
| 9:50 |
: definitely. right now
|
| 9:50 |
: Not yet
|
| 9:50 |
: Leave him in
|
| 9:50 |
: Roberto Perez is the best worst hitter ever so this should be fun
|
| 9:51 |
: Please get him!
|
| 9:51 |
: Now get him
|
| 9:51 |
: Please keep him in
|
| 9:51 |
: Sorry guys, I chose 16+ in the survey and plan to see that go through
|
| 9:52 |
: MEATBALL. Get him NOW.
|
| 9:52 |
: how long does it take to warmup
|
| 9:52 |
: Yeah let’s wait until the guy fails to take him out that makes sense
|
| 9:52 |
: Best worst hitter ever!
|
| 9:52 |
: WHY??
|
| 9:52 |
: That’s pretty shameful for Girardi to let this happen.
|
| 9:52 |
: Manager malpractice
|
| 9:53 |
: i don’t get what Girardi is doing here
|
| 9:53 |
: CC should not be facing this batter.
|
| 9:54 |
: This is good managing.
|
| 9:54 |
: finally!
|
| 9:54 |
: Girardi may be trying to get fired
|
| 9:54 |
: what is girardi doing? that is very poor managing
|
| 9:54 |
: What is Giardi doing
|
| 9:54 |
: should I take him out now?
|
| 9:54 |
: Maybe Girardi really does want out of NY
|
| 9:54 |
: Well, that escalated quickly.
|
| 9:54 |
: Inexcusable from Girardi. Absolutely awful.
|
| 9:54 |
: I predicted 3 base runners and 1 run this’s inning. I guess I underestimated in both counts
|
| 9:55 |
: New ballgame!
|
| 9:55 |
: Heavens to Besty.
|
| 9:55 |
: Somebody explain what Girardi was thinking…trying to get CC the win or something?
|
| 9:55 |
: I have no idea.
|
| 9:55 |
: One batter too late ughhh
|
| 9:55 |
: One?
|
| 9:56 |
: Should have been out second hit of that inning
|
| 9:56 |
: I said all day you take him out as soon as there are two runners on.
|
| 9:56 |
: That Girardi didn’t do that, in the 5th inning, was a huge failure on his part.
|
| 9:56 |
: If they’d just stuck with Sabathia through 6 innings, they’d surely win. Math!
|
| 9:57 |
: 16+ was so close
|
| 9:57 |
: He wasn’t getting Robertson up at start of inning (neither should he have been) so it would be impractical to take CC out after 2nd batter got on
|
| 9:57 |
: That’s his fault.
|
| 9:57 |
: I mean, there’s 2 batters on *now*
|
| 9:57 |
: Girardi’s management there didn’t even make sense in old school thinking.
|
| 9:57 |
: Robertson should have been up the second Sabathia allowed one hit.
|
| 9:58 |
: You have someone throwing at the start of the inning. They’re all getting used today.
|
| 9:58 |
: You need to show faith in your ace. That’s why you don’t get anyone up in the pen until it’s too late.
|
| 9:58 |
: That pitch was several inches outside.
|
| 9:58 |
: worst strike call of the night whoa
|
| 9:58 |
: ok, now THAT’s a wide strike…
|
| 9:59 |
: It’s almost like the Yankees bullpen is…. effective
|
| 9:59 |
: big time DP
|
| 9:59 |
: Lucky DP ball. Hesitation almost helped Lindor beat it out.
|
| 9:59 |
: Wow, a reliever was better. Who knew?
|
| 9:59 |
: Andrew Miller’s season high pitch count is 35 in a 1 inning April appearance against Houston. He’s at 27 now. How high can he go?
|
| 9:59 |
: He went 50 something last year, I think?
|
| 9:59 |
: I’d guess 40ish.
|
| 10:00 |
: Why don’t we just call this the Yankee chat, and not the ALDS chat?
|
| 10:00 |
: Do you have something else you’d like to talk about?
|
| 10:00 |
: East coast chat bias!
|
| 10:01 |
: From the guy who lives in Oregon!
|
| 10:01 |
: The opening poll showed more folks rooting for Cleveland.
|
| 10:01 |
: Was CC not just BABIP’d out of the game?
|
| 10:02 |
: Sure, but he’s also the Yankees 8th best pitcher or something.
|
| 10:02 |
: They have guys who don’t get BABIP’ed because they strike everyone out.
|
| 10:02 |
: Use those guys instead.
|
| 10:03 |
: Can’t babip if you don’t give up bips.
|
| 10:03 |
: Of course it’s come down to a battle of the bullpens, you ninnies.
|
| 10:03 |
: It’s an elimination game.
|
| 10:03 |
: Have you watched any baseball the last two weeks?
|
| 10:04 |
: Bet dusty let’s his starter go atleast 5 tomorrow
|
| 10:04 |
: Nah, not with Scherzer around.
|
| 10:04 |
: Gio goes 3-4.
|
| 10:04 |
: Scherzer goes 2-3.
|
| 10:04 |
: Yeah, but Dusty’s bullpen is kind of bad.
|
| 10:05 |
: Scherzer/Madson/Doolittle is elite.
|
| 10:05 |
: What could MLB ever do about the postseason being so different from the regular season? Usage of relievers is so much different its a different game.
|
| 10:05 |
: Fewer off days.
|
| 10:06 |
: Can only do this because of all the travel days in October.
|
| 10:06 |
: Isn’t tv revenue involved though
|
| 10:07 |
: Yep. They won’t reduce the number of off days, but that’s the main driver of the differences in the playoffs.
|
| 10:07 |
: I think MLB also *wants* to have more stars involved, rather than 4th starters and middling relievers.
|
| 10:07 |
: Yeah, I don’t think they see this as any kind of problem.
|
| 10:07 |
: That’s a strike! This is a strike! You’re a strike! I’m a strike!
|
| 10:08 |
: Chase Headley chases Miller from the game.
|
| 10:08 |
: It makes the games alot longer tho
|
| 10:08 |
: Which means more ad slots.
|
| 10:08 |
: They care about game length in the regular season.
|
| 10:08 |
: I don’t think they care much in the postseason.
|
| 10:08 |
: 39 pitches for Miller. Good call, Dave.
|
| 10:08 |
: Can I pitch tonight?
|
| 10:09 |
: I would guess everyone is available tonight.
|
| 10:09 |
: Is Francona really taking his best reliever out because of “Chase Headley’s success against Miller?”
|
| 10:09 |
: More about Miller wearing down than Headley being scary.
|
| 10:09 |
: Why are the Indians not using Salazar more? Like right now?
|
| 10:10 |
: Is Shaw good?
|
| 10:10 |
: Yes.
|
| 10:10 |
: I’m not going to draw the comparison, but now seems a useful-enough excuse to share Jeff’s piece about Livan 1996 https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/lets-consider-eric-gregg-and-livan-her…
|
| 10:11 |
: Forgot Shaw throws that hard
|
| 10:11 |
: Everyone throws this hard now.
|
| 10:11 |
: Do you get a slotted time off from baseball after the postseason ends?
|
| 10:11 |
: Free agency starts 5 days after the postseason ends.
|
| 10:11 |
: does everyone here have an uncle that looks like Bryan Shaw?
|
| 10:12 |
: I have an aunt
|
| 10:12 |
: Everyone’s uncle throws 97 with a wipeout slider now
|
| 10:12 |
: Will Chapman close two innings if the score holds up?
|
| 10:12 |
: Yeah, probably.
|
| 10:12 |
: At this point, it’s probably Robertson for the 6th and maybe the 7th if he’s rolling, then Chapman for 8/9.
|
| 10:13 |
: Kahnle probably cleans up for Robertson if he can’t finish 7.
|
| 10:13 |
: FS1’s gun is +3, Trackman has Shaw sitting at 93-94
|
| 10:13 |
: Well that’s not true at all.
|
| 10:14 |
: Well regardless of what happens to the Yanks now, I won’t be able to sleep after that scary zombie I need your help commercial.
|
| 10:14 |
: So that was the weirdest commercial I’ve ever seen
|
| 10:14 |
: What is up with these damn Fox Halloween commercials?!
|
| 10:14 |
: what in the world commercial was that
|
| 10:14 |
: Seriously!
|
| 10:14 |
: same wtf was that
|
| 10:14 |
: Dave, no chad green?
|
| 10:14 |
: I think CC pitched Green’s innings.
|
| 10:14 |
: I am never going to Fox.com ever again
|
| 10:15 |
: Why go with only Robertson/Chapman rather than shorter outings of all 4 elite relievers (Kahnle, Robertson, Chapman, Green)
|
| 10:16 |
: Because if your burn all four and the game goes to extras, you then have to go with worse arms.
|
| 10:16 |
: In a 3-2 game, you can’t assume it only goes 9.
|
| 10:16 |
: No chance for green or dellin?
|
| 10:17 |
: Green probably the 10th inning guy now.
|
| 10:17 |
: Dellin the 23rd inning guy.
|
| 10:17 |
: id bring didi in to pitch before dellin
|
| 10:17 |
: Dellin should be nowhere near this game
|
| 10:17 |
: Position player 22nd inning
|
| 10:17 |
: Hard to win a series when your 1-4 hitters go 9 for 75 with 1 HR.
|
| 10:18 |
: PFP: Pitchers fielding practice
|
| 10:18 |
: Only 8 pitches so far for D-Rob, he can take the 7th too?
|
| 10:18 |
: Yup.
|
| 10:18 |
: This low-pitch inning is best case for NYY.
|
| 10:18 |
: Can dellin get back in the mix (assuming NYY advances) or is he a write off for the rest of the year?
|
| 10:19 |
: He got himself back into the mix earlier this series, then pitched himself back out of it last game. There’s still time for him to get back into the circle of trust, but it will take a few good outings now.
|
| 10:19 |
: 9 pitches, 5 outs. Couldn’t ask for more if you’re NYY
|
| 10:19 |
: The collective roar of a home crowd after a deep fly ball is amazing
|
| 10:19 |
: FOX CALM URSELF WITH THESE ADS
|
| 10:20 |
: Why isn’t Chad Green being considered? He was statistically the Yankee’s best pitcher this year.
|
| 10:20 |
: Girardi is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately guy.
|
| 10:20 |
: Green gave up the bomb to Lindor
|
| 10:20 |
: Robertson gets another inning, right?
|
| 10:20 |
: For sure.
|
| 10:20 |
: You don’t know who David S. Pumpkins is, do you? The kids know, Dave! The kids know!!!
|
| 10:21 |
: I have never heard of David S. Pumpkins.
|
| 10:21 |
: Do you agree with that approach?
|
| 10:21 |
: No, he’s too reactive for my tastes.
|
| 10:21 |
: But when you have this many great arms, it’s not as big a problem.
|
| 10:21 |
: If recency bias shifts you from one dominant reliever to another, eh, still dominant reliever.
|
| 10:22 |
: OMG you must google David S. Pumpkins
|
| 10:22 |
: /googles. Oh, an SNL skit. I won’t find this funny. Clicks the X.
|
| 10:22 |
: Isn’t recency bias kinda prevalent in baseball though
|
| 10:22 |
: Yup.
|
| 10:23 |
: [pushes up glasses] uh, they’re called sketches, Dave
|
| 10:23 |
: Although I’m pretty p**sed at Girardi now, he also is not afraid to ‘promote’ relievers instead of wearing out the ones he trusts, I thought.
|
| 10:24 |
: thanks Vasgergian for mentioning that not all players love the game equally…
|
| 10:24 |
: Todd Frazier just called an oppo bomb for judge
|
| 10:24 |
: Another low strike for Jusge
|
| 10:24 |
: Judge is getting KILLED on low pitches
|
| 10:25 |
: Ump keeps calling them, pitchers will keep throwing them
|
| 10:25 |
: They do know he is 11 feet tall and those are balls right?
|
| 10:25 |
: Watching Shaw awakens that little voice in the back of my head that says – you could do what he’s doing – 2 pitches, high velocity…and look like you manage a run down gym in the offseason that you don’t work out at anymore but you love it because there are chix there
|
| 10:26 |
: I’ve always hated the ‘plays the game the right way’ comment that Smoltz just made. You know who also plays the game the right way? Luis Severino, who was all sorts of excited in game 4!
|
| 10:26 |
: Let’s be real if Salazar is on the mound he blows 3 fastballs by Judge, at bat over
|
| 10:26 |
: Do you think Judge’s problem this series has been *fastballs*?
|
| 10:26 |
: they all play the game the right way, this series is great
|
| 10:27 |
: horrific strike 3 call
|
| 10:27 |
: another terrible called strike on judge
|
| 10:27 |
: Big zone tonight
|
| 10:27 |
: That was a strike?
|
| 10:27 |
: Not a strike. Great throw by Perez.
|
| 10:27 |
: Opinion on strike zone ?
|
| 10:27 |
: It’s big, but the Fox tracker is making it seem bigger than it has been.
|
| 10:27 |
: That’s been the zone all night for everyone
|
| 10:28 |
: not a strike, but at least consistent. less egregious than the low pitch earlier in the at bat.
|
| 10:28 |
: its been consistent… but bad
|
| 10:28 |
: Worst part of that strike em out throw em out is now I’m afraid of commercials
|
| 10:28 |
: Strike zone has been ridiculously huge for everyone, not just Judge.
|
| 10:28 |
: It’s been a bit wider than we’d expect, but not extreme.
|
| 10:28 |
: The Fox tracker is too narrow.
|
| 10:28 |
: If I believed in momentum, that would feel like a big momentum shift…
|
| 10:29 |
: I think people are being too swayed by the Fox graphic. Would be so much better if networks stopped that.
|
| 10:29 |
: I wish they would nuke the k zone overlay
|
| 10:29 |
: or nuke the umpires
|
| 10:29 |
: Gameday shows that as not a strike too
|
| 10:29 |
: These are some borderline strike calls, no question.
|
| 10:30 |
: Not saying they aren’t.
|
| 10:30 |
: But this is more like 30% strike odds calls being called, not 1%
|
| 10:30 |
: I think it’s been consistently wide for the whole game
|
| 10:30 |
: the game still goes on, guys. He’s been consistent
|
| 10:31 |
: And that’s for the series, not just this game
|
| 10:31 |
: no chat spam for that call against santana?
|
| 10:32 |
: It seems like Santana has more 0-2 and 1-2 counts than anyone in baseball.
|
| 10:32 |
: does it really matter who gets the spam if everyone says is consistently bad?
|
| 10:33 |
: Man DRob is so good
|
| 10:33 |
: Literally every game I watch, I decide a different reliever is the Yankees best non-Chapman reliever
|
| 10:34 |
: I thought Robertson was like meh a year or so ago. Did he improved something? Or was that just a weird rough patch?
|
| 10:34 |
: He had a homer problem for a while.
|
| 10:34 |
: But he’s really good
|
| 10:34 |
: you’d do Chapman for 2 innings and not do Kahnle 8 Chapman 9? Not sure how I feel about Chapman having to throw 30 pitches…..
|
| 10:34 |
: Yeah, Chapman for two.
|
| 10:34 |
: Kahnle and Green can get warm if Chapman runs out of gas.
|
| 10:35 |
: chapman is best yankee reliever but miller>chapman right?
|
| 10:35 |
: Yes.
|
| 10:35 |
: How do you feel about robot umps, Dave?
|
| 10:35 |
: Tech isn’t there yet.
|
| 10:36 |
: And even when it is, I’d probably rather have the tech be an aid for the human.
|
| 10:36 |
: They need to stop showing the umpire butt cam when there are 2 strikes.
|
| 10:36 |
: Dave, how do you feel about robot statistics-based website editors?
|
| 10:37 |
: I’m in favor. Then we can finally get rid of Carson!
|
| 10:37 |
: Alright why Chapman for 2? Feel like 1 inning of two super dominant relievers better than 2 inning of one super dominant reliever who relys on keeping up insane velocity
|
| 10:37 |
: Because if either of them give up a run, you have to pitch the 10th too.
|
| 10:38 |
: Yeah, but you can end the game and the series?
|
| 10:38 |
: Going 1 inning with Kahnle/Chapman is no guarantee of 0 runs allowed.
|
| 10:38 |
: I think that Roberto Perez, noted playoff legend, will hit a baseball over the fence this plate appearance
|
| 10:39 |
: I think that he will not.
|
| 10:39 |
: Not the worst decision to pitch around Bruce there. Unless Perez gets a hit. Then it was the worst
|
| 10:39 |
: As a Yankee fan this definitely has the feel of so poor player hitting a bomb for Indians to win it
|
| 10:39 |
: Dave I bet you $28 that kahnle goes out for the 8th inning instead of chapman
|
| 10:39 |
: That is a weirdly specific amount.
|
| 10:40 |
: 28 World Championships! META
|
| 10:40 |
: Not for a Yankees fan 😉
|
| 10:40 |
: Gross
|
| 10:40 |
: They did not move the fences in far enough
|
| 10:40 |
: Basically a home run
|
| 10:40 |
: that was not a dinger
|
| 10:41 |
: I just rewound my Tivo. Confirmed. No dinger.
|
| 10:42 |
:
I would start the 8th with
Robertson (8.2% | 29 votes)
Kahnle (44.0% | 154 votes)
Chapman (37.4% | 131 votes)
Green (10.2% | 36 votes)
Total Votes: 350
|
| 10:43 |
: Will one of you do an article on Judge’s strike zone so I won’t sit here wondering whether my seething at the zone is just misguided homerism or a legitimate gripe? I’m fine with either conclusion but that inbetween feeling is the worst.
|
| 10:43 |
: Yup.
|
| 10:43 |
: Plan on it tomorrow.
|
| 10:43 |
: Is it just me or do those new Taco Bell egg things look gross
|
| 10:43 |
: It’s Taco Bell. Of course it’s gross.
|
| 10:43 |
: does it hurt your feelings at all when the chat votes against your suggestion?
|
| 10:44 |
: I don’t have feelings.
|
| 10:44 |
: Dave would need to blink to have feelings.
|
| 10:44 |
: Except hatred for my favourite team.
|
| 10:45 |
: Didi has put himself in elite company by not doing what Babe and Reggie did.
|
| 10:45 |
: Good job, Fox.
|
| 10:45 |
: Chapman up for the yankees
|
| 10:45 |
: Girardi is my simpatico.
|
| 10:46 |
: (Well, not in the early innings…)
|
| 10:46 |
: How was the “leaving CC” move in the 5th perceived in the chat? I was a little late
|
| 10:46 |
: Disaster
|
| 10:47 |
: It was perceived as a disaster at the bar I was at too, so it’s a pretty consistent reaction.
|
| 10:47 |
: Anyone who understands baseball at all recognized that as a disaster.
|
| 10:48 |
: Did Chad Green really fall out of favor that much? They are getting short on arms then – how is Warren?
|
| 10:48 |
: No, he’s still in the mix. CC just pitched his innings tonight.
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| 10:48 |
: It would help my heart so much if the Yankees could get another run or two.
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| 10:49 |
: MORE EAST CAST CHAT BIAS!!!!
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| 10:49 |
: Is it too much ask that part of the announcer orientation and training would be a brief two-day stats-for-dummies course? At least a two hour seminar on how to interpret/contextualize the stats you already know.
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| 10:49 |
: Vasgersian isn’t an idiot.
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| 10:49 |
: They just are out of touch on how pitchers are used in the playoffs this year.
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| 10:49 |
: Hey Dave why aren’t you working in a Front office ? You have everything to do so … is it a choice ?
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| 10:50 |
: I’ve had a few offers over the years, but I work from home, get weekends off, don’t work holidays…
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| 10:50 |
: It’s a pretty good gig.
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| 10:50 |
: Also, spending time with family is underrated.
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| 10:50 |
: The very best part of my job is taking my kid to and picking him up from preschool every day.
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| 10:51 |
: It’s great.
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| 10:52 |
: Do you ever wonder if your good enough to stick it in a FO role?
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| 10:52 |
: Not really. There are so many people way smarter and with more skills than me that want to work for teams.
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| 10:52 |
: Dave, you should go into announcing. You would bring a passionate, excitable voice to the long grind of a baseball season.
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| 10:53 |
: Yes, because who doesn’t want to hear someone sound like they’re conducting an auction with a cold?
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| 10:53 |
: Chapman scares me
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| 10:53 |
: Dave is too emotional
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| 10:53 |
: That is the perfect way to describe your voice, Dave Cameron.
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| 10:53 |
: Dave, I love your commentary, but you do talk to fast.
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| 10:53 |
: Radio face, silent movie voice
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| 10:53 |
: Chapman coming in
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| 10:54 |
: We’re in the ‘roast Dave Cameron’ segment of the chat? Sweet, now let’s discuss how Jose Ramirez was ranked too low on the trade value list.
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| 10:54 |
: I want to echo another person’s comment about the Indians hitting some unlikely, improbably HR.
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| 10:54 |
: I always root for Chapman to lose
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| 10:54 |
: Chapman for two innings? I think this is a bad call
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| 10:54 |
: The two inning save has become pretty standard in the postseason.
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| 10:54 |
: Dave, I love you
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| 10:54 |
: Thanks, Liberty.
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| 10:55 |
: How did you learn how to type though?
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| 10:55 |
: Everything in this chat was ok until you insulted Taco Bell. Apologize!!
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| 10:55 |
: I’m sorry you like taco bell.
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| 10:56 |
: No pinch hitter?
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| 10:56 |
: Why no PH for urshela
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| 10:56 |
: Chisenhall a lefty, so not a good option.
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| 10:56 |
: They Erik Gonzalez!
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| 10:56 |
: I mean, he’s not exactly Didi Gregorius.
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| 10:56 |
: Excessively sweaty
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| 10:57 |
: You could’ve been $28 richer
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| 10:57 |
: Urshela had like a 90% chance to strike out there, right?
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| 10:57 |
: 91%
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| 10:58 |
: I still don’t get how Rajai Davis hit that homer…
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| 10:58 |
: One of the keys lost in that “Chapman blown save” in last year’s WS, was Maddon stupidly bringing him in for Game 6 for no reason.
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| 10:58 |
: Yeah, the Game 7 issue was really a Game 6 mistake.
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| 10:59 |
: I was lucky enough to be at game 7 during that, I will never forget that moment in that stadium
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| 10:59 |
: Do you really have to have a mound meeting with Chapman? “”Whisper whisper….throw it even harder this time””
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| 10:59 |
: Maddon got stuck on trusting three RPs, and it caused him to over use Chapman badly
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| 10:59 |
: Yeah. Girardi won’t have that problem, most likely.
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| 11:00 |
: I think the ump pooped himself a little there
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| 11:00 |
: Is there going to be a NLDS game 5 chat tomorrow?
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| 11:00 |
: Yup!
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| 11:01 |
: Kipnis, really?
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| 11:01 |
: They don’t have RH pinch hitters.
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| 11:02 |
: beautiful slider
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| 11:03 |
: He is so good
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| 11:03 |
: Well that went quite well
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| 11:04 |
: My son just came in and told me my son was handsome
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| 11:04 |
: So I have that going for me.
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| 11:04 |
: same son or…
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| 11:04 |
: Yeah, I only have the one.
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| 11:05 |
: He’s going places, confidence is the key.
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| 11:05 |
: might also be a bit crazy.
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| 11:06 |
: Gadzooks,he’s talking?
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| 11:06 |
: He’s been talking for almost a year now. He’s basically ready to call a baseball game at this point. He doesn’t stop talking.
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| 11:07 |
: does he like baseball?
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| 11:07 |
: Big fan of home runs.
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| 11:07 |
: The rest, eh.
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| 11:07 |
: Kind of amazing that the Indians have even made it this close with what they’ve received from Lindor, Kluber and Ramirez.
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| 11:07 |
: Yeah, if you said Kluber was going to give up 5 homers and Lindor/Ramirez would hit .100, would assume Yankees sweep.
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| 11:08 |
: so he’s in favor of the HR surge
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| 11:08 |
: Kids do like their juice(d balls)
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| 11:09 |
: A BIP!
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| 11:09 |
: Ole!
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| 11:09 |
: Jackson wyd
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| 11:09 |
: thank you jackson
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| 11:09 |
: DON’T MAKE EXCUSES FOR THAT PLAY!
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| 11:10 |
: Yes, Smoltz. It was the English.
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| 11:10 |
: Maybe he’s french?
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| 11:10 |
: Anything you can think of that Francona should’ve done differently?
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| 11:10 |
: Maybe carry a RH pinch-hitter?
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| 11:10 |
: But not really.
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| 11:11 |
: Not the first time the English has screwed the Indians
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| 11:11 |
: With a name like John he’s definitely French
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| 11:11 |
: Was it correct to use Miller that early? Aren’t there higher leverage innings?
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| 11:11 |
: In an elimination game, they’re all high leverage.
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| 11:11 |
: Not start Bauer on short rest when you have Clevinger, Salazar and Tomlin
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| 11:11 |
: Okay, yes, that.
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| 11:12 |
: Jean de Smeultz
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| 11:12 |
: Tell Kluber to pitch like he always does. Tito def should have done that.
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| 11:13 |
: I hate when managers forget to tell their players to play good
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| 11:13 |
: Dave – what is the probability the Indians actually score a run here against Chapman? Heart of the order, but, you know, Chapman. Like 5%?
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| 11:13 |
: Probably 10-20%
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| 11:13 |
: Even good relievers give up runs sometimes.
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| 11:14 |
: 10-20 seems so high as a Yankees fan.
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| 11:14 |
: Chapman gave up runs in 13/52 games this year.
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| 11:15 |
: Adjust down a bit because some of those might have been >1 run leads where he grooved one.
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| 11:15 |
: Smoltz and Vasgersian keep blaming the pitching staff but the Indians have scored 5 runs in the past 26 innings
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| 11:16 |
: Only 3 of 23 100-win teams have won the world series in the WC era. So almost exactly the 1/8 you would expect based on randomness.
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| 11:16 |
: adjust up bc more than 1 inning
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| 11:17 |
: Todd Frazier looks like a Todd Frazier bobblehead
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| 11:18 |
: Shouldn’t the Indians have guys going in the bulllpen?
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| 11:18 |
: Yes.
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| 11:18 |
: How long is the Indians window if this is it for this year?
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| 11:18 |
: They should still be good next year. 2019 possible, depending on how Kluber ages.
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| 11:20 |
: Dave – not really a in game question, but does the presence of the juiced ball make it harder to value guys like Lindor or Rameriz going forward? It would seem that if the ball were to be changed it would dramatically affect their offensive outputs.
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| 11:20 |
: Yup.
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| 11:20 |
: It’s made talent evaluation for moderate power guys really hard.
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| 11:21 |
: Do you continue to bat Aaron Judge at the two spot in the ALCS?
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| 11:21 |
: Yup. Astros don’t have the same nasty right-handed breaking ball guys that CLE has.
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| 11:21 |
: Verlander and McCullers though.
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| 11:21 |
: And Giles. They have some. CLE has like 10.
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| 11:22 |
: Does “sitting for a while” really effect pitchers? Any data?
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| 11:22 |
: I haven’t seen any, but given what we know about pitcher routines, it’d be surprising if it didn’t.
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| 11:23 |
: should Girardi have 2 guys up and hot — not just up and playing catch — the second the 9th inning starts? (say yes, bc thats the correct answer)
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| 11:23 |
: Kahnle, at least.
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| 11:23 |
: No real reason to have Green up if Kahnle is ready.
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| 11:23 |
: I would think it’d affect starters more than relievers
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| 11:23 |
: I would think the opposite, since relievers don’t pitch multiple innings as often in the regular season.
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| 11:24 |
: Fair enough (I was implying lefty / righty … but your answer suffices, so I yield my point)
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| 11:24 |
: You’re not going to remove Chapman for a different lefty.
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| 11:24 |
: Next question: Will Girardi have anyone even up and walking around the bullpen? (say no, bc thats the correct answer)
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| 11:24 |
: No
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| 11:25 |
: The “sitting for a while” is one spot where I would listen to a former pitcher.
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| 11:25 |
: Yeah, me too.
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| 11:26 |
: Could the Indians have DLed Bauer to get Yandy Diaz or someone on the bench for this game?
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| 11:26 |
: If you DL someone in the DS, they are out for the LCS too.
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| 11:27 |
: thats pretty clutch.
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| 11:27 |
: Huge
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| 11:27 |
: That is a series winning worthy at bat
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| 11:27 |
: Thank you runs!
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| 11:27 |
: Goddamnit
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| 11:27 |
: Chapman looks very relieved
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| 11:27 |
: Well that at bat was well worth it
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| 11:27 |
: That play was both clutch and un-clutch
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| 11:27 |
: Goodnight Cleveland
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| 11:27 |
: Best at bat of the MLB seasoin
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| 11:28 |
: Indian’s defense has been sloppy this whole series
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| 11:28 |
: Who’s at fault for that, Bruce or Lindor?
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| 11:28 |
: Lindor, I think.
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| 11:28 |
: What was Frazier’s base running rating this year?
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| 11:29 |
: -1.1 UBR
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| 11:29 |
: Have followed Gardner since the start of his career in ’08. That was the defining moment of his Yankees career
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| 11:29 |
: That at-bat was the stuff of legends.
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| 11:30 |
: Frazier does not look below average during the playoffs.
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| 11:30 |
: Pretty similar at bat to Reddick’s in the 8th off of Kimbrel
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| 11:30 |
: The Yankees have pitched a hell of a series. Despite the narrative, so have the Indians.
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| 11:30 |
: Gardner was down 1-2 that at-bat
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| 11:30 |
: There’s no DL in the postseason.
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| 11:30 |
: You can have an injury replacement on your roster, but you lose them for the next round too.
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| 11:32 |
: It’s impressive how patient judge continues to be even with his struggles
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| 11:32 |
: Re. pitcher’s sitting: I asked about this for EW a few months ago, and Ben Lindbergh linked to this. Effect seems minimal, but it exists http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17505
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| 11:33 |
: Do you even consider going with kahnle for the 9th now? It’s been like 35 minutes
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| 11:33 |
: No, but he’d be up.
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| 11:33 |
: And ready.
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| 11:34 |
: Was starting Encarnacion a mistake? Maybe save him as a PH?
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| 11:34 |
: If he was healthy enough to hit, start him.
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| 11:34 |
: Astros over/under 55% ALCS odds?
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| 11:35 |
: I’d go under.
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| 11:35 |
: HOU a better regular season team, but not sure about the postseason gap.
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| 11:35 |
: Yankee bullpen is a serious equalizer.
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| 11:35 |
: so far how good would you say this postseason has been
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| 11:35 |
: 10/10
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| 11:35 |
: I feel like the Yankees match up pretty decently against the Astros, Not enough to be favorites, but enough where Houstonb fans shouldnt be confident
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| 11:36 |
: Yep. Very RH line-up against Severino/Tanaka/Gray plus this pen.
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| 11:36 |
: Not a great match-up for HOU.
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| 11:36 |
: Only 98! He’s tired!
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| 11:36 |
: This game isn’t over yet.
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| 11:36 |
: this games not over
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| 11:36 |
: 97!
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| 11:37 |
: As a former pitcher – the amount of time Chapman had to sit definitely is tough to deal with
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| 11:37 |
: 98,97,97 maybe there’s something to it
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| 11:37 |
: He was mostly 98/99 last inning too.
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| 11:37 |
: Could be he dialed it down to pitch two innings.
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| 11:38 |
: We’re looking at Severino vs Verlander in Game 2, right?
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| 11:38 |
: Yup!
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| 11:38 |
: Should be fun.
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| 11:38 |
: Not a good start with a 3 run lead….
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| 11:38 |
: If he was going to dial it down then would it not have been better to just have him pitch 1
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| 11:38 |
: Maybe!
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| 11:38 |
: Paging Mr. Kahnle … Mr. Kahnle, stay hot.
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| 11:38 |
: Paging Mr. Kahnle please
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| 11:39 |
: Not inspiring much confidence.
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| 11:39 |
: If we go to extras….who comes in for NY?
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| 11:39 |
: Kahnle is next
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| 11:39 |
: Walk off grand slam would be objectively fun.
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| 11:40 |
: You’re right Smoltz- nobody else could understand why Chapman might struggle
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| 11:40 |
: As a Yankee fan, it would be subjectively unfun
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| 11:40 |
: theres triple digits
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| 11:41 |
: Big
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| 11:41 |
: Horrible AB.
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| 11:41 |
: Great at bat…
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| 11:41 |
: 101 K is more like it
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| 11:41 |
: Middle middle 101
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| 11:41 |
: he’s loose now
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| 11:41 |
: Right down the middle
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| 11:41 |
: that pitch is unfair in that situation
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| 11:41 |
: Nasty.
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| 11:41 |
: gonna be tough to get a hit if that’s a strike
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| 11:42 |
: Wow if that slider’s working
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| 11:42 |
: Baseball is easy with a 101 FB !
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| 11:43 |
: absolutely stunningly great hands by Castro
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| 11:43 |
: I was fully expecting Castro to boot that.
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| 11:43 |
: nice castro
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| 11:43 |
: That’s well done by Castro
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| 11:43 |
: Friendly Reminder: Playoff baseball is awesome.
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| 11:43 |
: Dave I hope you’re teaching your kid to be left handed and throw 102 mph.
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| 11:43 |
: Bats Left/Throws RIght. I don’t want to pay for Tommy John.
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| 11:44 |
: I dunno about you, but I’m ready for this alcs
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| 11:45 |
: Amazing how cold the Indians hitters went. JRam and Lindor were in the top 5 for AL MVP wouldn’t you say?
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| 11:45 |
: Ramirez yes, Lindor no.
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| 11:46 |
: Can this end please my heart can’t take it.
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| 11:46 |
: Super bullpen has been super
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| 11:46 |
: Chapman, you throw 101. It’s not that hard of a decision.
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| 11:46 |
: that conversation on the mound seemed way more intense than it needed to be
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| 11:46 |
: Hey Gary how about for the next one I see how hard I can throw it
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| 11:46 |
: 30 minutes between pitches
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| 11:47 |
: This series should kill the ‘momentum’ argument for the playoffs, no? Cleveland won like 30 of 33 at the end of the year.
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| 11:47 |
: People will find a way to tell you why next time is different.
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| 11:48 |
: Why didn’t Austin Jackson run???
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| 11:48 |
: Jackson could have run to first there, no?
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| 11:48 |
: run to first austin
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| 11:48 |
: Girardi looks so happy
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| 11:48 |
: Congrats on a great year, Cleveland.
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| 11:48 |
: I know this doesn’t feel great right now.
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| 11:49 |
: But you were the AL’s best team this year. The postseason is a lot of luck.
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| 11:49 |
: Remember the great things about 2017.
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| 11:49 |
: NYY-HOU should be fun, though.
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| 11:49 |
: The elimination game lineup of a 102-win team featured Austin jackson, Roberto Perez and Geovanny Urshella. That’s unacceptable
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| 11:49 |
: Francona has lost 6 straight elimination games?
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| 11:49 |
: thanks for the chat
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| 11:50 |
: Thanks for hanging out, everyone.
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| 11:50 |
: A chatter to be named later will be with you tomorrow night.
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Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Seems like someone warned us the Yanks were “overwhelmingly powerful.”
Against the best staff of all time no less! I guess if you write all the headlines, then some will turn out.
I was glad to see some mention of Austin Jackson’s 1st at bat. He saw four straight balls and went down looking. That umpiring was brutal the entire game.