Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 8/28/25
12:00 |
: And thus the chat began. Suspiciously, it began on time as well.
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12:01 |
: How much of a hit did Phillies’ WS prospects take with Wheeler’s injury?
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12:01 |
: I didn’t do an article on the topic, but I did run the numbers and at the time, they dropped from 11.7 to 9.8 in ZiPS purely for the Wheeler injury
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12:01 |
: If/when expansion happens, which cities are you hoping get team? Which ones would you bet on getting a team?
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12:02 |
: I hope Nashville gets one. That’s purely for selfish reasons – gives me yet another park five hours or less away!
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12:03 |
: And I like excuses to visit Nashville. The state of hot chicken in SW Ohio, at least in the Dayton area, is truly sad.
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12:03 |
: Around here, Popeye’s boneless wings with *signature* sauce is the closest to hot chicken I’ve found around here. Everything else is even moer wrong
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12:04 |
: How badly has Jackson Holliday’s 3 year ZiPS outlook been hurt by his struggles this year?
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12:04 |
: Not horribly
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12:04 |
: OH wait, there was more to the question
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12:05 |
: I think Charlotte and Salt Lake City
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12:05 |
: have good chances
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12:06 |
: I dont’ think Orlando has a good chance. They’d be better off buying the Rays or Marlins and moving them to Orlando, I doubt baseball wants to put a THIRD team in Florida
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12:06 |
: Probably have to buy Marlins since the Rays were just sold
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12:06 |
: What do you think the hardest organization to turn around would be if you were forcibly given leadership of a team in MLB?
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12:06 |
: Marlins
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12:08 |
: Any idea why Ryan Pepiot isn’t hitting his ceiling? Going by a few metrics he’s got 3 above average to plus pitches and a strong swinging strike rate, but for some reason he can’t get called strikes, and whenever he does get hit it’s a lot of hard contact
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12:09 |
: I’m actually not sure what the real problem is with him. It certainly FEELS like his changeup SHOUDL be a more whiffy pitch than it is
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12:09 |
: But I’ve never really dug deeply into Pepiot’s profile specifically
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12:09 |
: You know how baseball savant has the spread maps of a pitcher’s pitches? Do you think it’s better for a specific pitch’s spread to be tighter or more broad? Better control vs less predictability?
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12:09 |
: I think it’s situation dependent
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12:09 |
: Thanks for chatting! How do you (Dan) go about interpreting the ZiPS projections? What’s your process? You always seem to have good analysis beyond what the numbers say.
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12:10 |
: I don’t really have a specific *process* I go through. I think of a story, and see if the evidence supports what I think the story is, and if not, what the story really is.
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12:11 |
: I’m far less concerned with what numbers *are* than what numbers *mean* and generally, it flows from there.
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12:12 |
: It may seem odd coming from me, but I rarely want to write a story about numbers, I just *use* numbers in what I *hope* are interesting ways
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12:12 |
: McLean: ace?
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12:12 |
: Not the craziest thing I’ve heard at all!
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12:13 |
: Do teams that rely on home runs for offense underperform their run differential because of uneven run distribution? I’m thinking about how in a given game a team needs x runs to score. If scoring is uneven in distribution they will score x+6 runs one day, x-3 the next. It would be better just to score x+1 both days.
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12:13 |
: I haven’t really found that. One of the nice things about home runs is that even though they’re spotty, they’re also somewhat *consistent* in the medium term
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12:13 |
: while BABIP is REALLY volatile
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12:13 |
: So Giolito sure seems likely to hit the 140 IP trigger for his mutual option. Would he take $19M? No, right? What kind of contract would you anticipate if not? I am hoping the Red Sox hang on to him–just don’t have a lot of faith that Houck, Crawford, and Sandoval are going to be rotation mainstays next year–but I suspect Breslow won’t want to give a lot of years to someone of his age and history of down years.
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12:14 |
: I should note that I’m doing a piece sometime next week on the options/optouts
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12:14 |
: Could you pick a top 4 here: Carroll, Wood, Springer, Kurtz and Buxton. Thanks!
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12:15 |
: Fantasy? Would probably keep order similar!
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12:15 |
: Who is the most unique player in MLB right now according to Szyps? By that I mean which player has the least similar comps?
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12:16 |
: Unfortunately, I don’t actually know that! I keep a ton of projection data, but I don’t keep the exact mahalanobis distances
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12:17 |
: It’s likely one of the amazing players simply because there are fewer players to reasonably compare them too
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12:17 |
: “Beavers’ Beleavers” or “The Beaver Dam”?
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12:17 |
: oops
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12:17 |
: “Beavers’ Beleavers” or “The Beaver Dam”?
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12:17 |
: Not sure the context of the question, but since it seemed some kid drowned every year at Beaver Dam in Timonium, the former?
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12:18 |
: Actually surprised more people don’t get killed there. Don’t know if it still does, but it had this massive rope swing that was really unsafe
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12:18 |
: and poor supervision
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12:18 |
: our friend Bob was always broke, so we used to smuggle him in with us in the trunk of my Ford Tempo
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12:19 |
: The car sucked, but it had a big trunk
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12:20 |
: Since I had a car and one of the few on-site parking spaces (sufficient extra-curricular activities which required a lot), coming home from school, we usually had five in the car and a sixth in the trunk
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12:20 |
: Small sample, but is Correa already a top level defensive 3B?
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12:20 |
: that’s raelly really premature!
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12:20 |
: Dan, how does ZIPS take into account /adjust for nagging type injuries? Broadcast mentioned Elly has a quad injury he’s playing through which is why he’s been bad lately, but I would imagine it would not change the future projection that much?
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12:20 |
: That unfortunately is something I haven’t figured out how to do in a systematic fashion
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12:20 |
: What type of contract does ZiPS give Arraez after this year? It’s been rough to watch the sequence of statue take, foul ball, chase —> can of corn play out countless times
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12:21 |
: A hilarious one that will get fans over 60 angry at me.
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12:22 |
: 2/23 😀
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12:25 |
: Who is the best MLB player who knows your name?
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12:25 |
: weirdly enough, it might be schilling
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12:25 |
: Is Bob still broke? What happened to Bob? We must know.
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12:26 |
: If you could make a change to any single current MLB stadium, what would it be?
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12:26 |
: he turned out OK!
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12:26 |
: BRING BACK THE MARLINS HOME RUN FEATURE. And this time, have a small polka band that plays creepy minor key waltzes while the feature moves
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12:27 |
: You into the US Open like Ben is?
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12:27 |
: Not really
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12:27 |
: Pete Crow-Armstrong has really no comps this year ( and few in baseball history): sub-.300 OBP, brilliant defense, 30/30. Just outrageous.
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12:28 |
: Andre Dawson 1976-1978 Carlos González 2007-2010 Andre Dawson 1976-1979 Raul Mondesi 1992-1995 Andre Dawson 1976-1977 Chili Davis 1981-1982 Dan Gladden 1979-1982 Tom Romano 1980-1983 Garry Maddox 1971-1972 Garry Maddox 1971-1974 Dave Parker 1972-1973 Raul Mondesi 1992-1994 Starling Marte 2010-2012 Pedro Guerrero 1977-1979 Garry Maddox 1971-1973 Chili Davis 1981-1984 Wally Moon 1951-1953 Willie Davis 1961-1963 Duke Snider 1948-1949 Tommie Agee 1964-1966 Shawn Green 1995-1998 Bobby Murcer 1967-1969 Joe Carter 1981-1984 Duke Snider 1948-1950 Walt Bond 1959-1962 Duke Snider 1948-1951 Corey Hart 2004-2007 Willie Davis 1961-1964 Tommie Agee 1964-1967 Wally Judnich 1937-1940 Willie Davis 1962-1965 Peter Bourjos 2008-2011 Cliff Heathcote 1919-1920 Lee Maye 1956-1959 Pedro Guerrero 1977-1980 Joe Carter 1983-1986 Ellis Burks 1986-1989 Mel Hall 1982-1983 Carlos Beltrán 1998-2001 Bill White 1956-1959 Carlos González 2008-2011 Mickey Riv
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12:29 |
: those zips doesn’t comp defense
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12:29 |
: and those are fairly low scores
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12:29 |
: when/if your modeling seems off, do you call it the zips blips?
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12:29 |
: Don’t really have a name for them!
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12:29 |
: I have a pretty reliable starting ten (10 guys rated 1-80) with one all purpose reserve and O’Neal Cruz. He’s coming off a short stint on the IL. My pitching has carried me this season. In order to keep Cruz, which one of the following SP’s would you drop? (Average rankings based on ERA & Number of Starts) Robbie Ray – 88 Brandon Woodruff – 78 Edward Cabrera – 62 Max Fried – 39 Hunter Brown – 33 Hurston Waldrep – 26 Merrill Kelly – 20 Cam Schlitter – 6 Trevor Rogers – 4 Shane Bieber -2, or cut Cruz?
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12:31 |
: Geez, are you past your trade deadline?
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12:31 |
: Probably would drop waldrep
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12:31 |
: Pick your preferred cringe Sterling-esque home run call for Ben Rice: “Rice Pilaf!!” or “Arroz con Power!!”
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12:32 |
: Arroz con Power would be amazing
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12:32 |
: If the Mets don’t resign Alonso, would you move Soto to first (if he’s open to it)?
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12:32 |
: It’s certainly worth a try
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12:32 |
: A little late but I always miss your chats. Would the cubs have been in a better position by trading tucker at the deadline for Cease and a good reliever? Offense is strong and could have slotted in caissie.
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12:32 |
: nobody should miss (as in regret) my chats
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12:32 |
: everybody should miss (as in scheduling) my chats as I am the worst, I am told.
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12:33 |
: Would’ve been fun trade, but teams rarely do a big double star rental swap at the deadline
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12:33 |
: What do you and ZiPS think of Bubba Chandler thus far?
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12:33 |
: Very highly!
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12:34 |
: What happened to Matt Chapman?
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12:35 |
: I mean, he’s basically at the level of reasonable expectations
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12:35 |
: 2024 is a bad projection system
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12:35 |
: (as is any single year)
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12:35 |
: I’ll put my name on my Q this time. Do you think Roman Anthony will swoop in and win Rookie of the Year?
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12:35 |
: Do you think Roman Anthony will swoop in and steal Rookie of the Year?
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12:36 |
: He’s had some big moments, but I’m not sure how he’d pass Kurtz
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12:36 |
: Does your upcoming piece on options include a section on mutual options, cause those still seem nuts to me
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12:37 |
: Yeah, I was intending to do the ones wiht a player decision
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12:37 |
: At one point my dad, my brother, and I were all driving different Ford Tempos. We didn’t seek them out, they just kept finding us.
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12:38 |
: Q: What’s the way to have one working Ford Tempo? A: Have three Ford Tempos
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12:38 |
: That sounds like the automotive version of It Follows
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12:38 |
: Ellis Burks was an underrated player. I’d believe a PCA comp.
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12:38 |
: Hi Dan, do you think rookie hitters (Basallo, Cags, Crews, etc) are overrated in fantasy baseball? Seems like it takes even the great ones way longer to figure things out or tweak things than it does rookie pitchers, some of whom even come out of the gate strong. Thanks!
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12:38 |
: I think they tend to simply because there’s ALWAYS someone in a league excited about X rookie
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12:38 |
: nto any systemic reason
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12:39 |
: for every guy having an awful start to MLB career, you find a guy with crazy unsustainable performance
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12:39 |
: because rookies have same sample size issues that everyone else has
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12:39 |
: do you think Paul skenes is a pirate this time 2 years from now
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12:39 |
: Yes
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12:39 |
: Are Austin Wells and Anthony Volpe still starting players?
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12:39 |
: Yeah, but they’re pushing the edges of that
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12:39 |
: So when you see big spreads between record and run differential is there some consistent factor you have found or just luck?
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12:39 |
: I haven’t found any useful. Even bullpen quality/closer quality is almost nothing
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12:40 |
: Have you ever run ZIPS for Robert Pollard if he had chosen to pursue pitching w the same passion he put into crafting a million indie rock songs?
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12:40 |
: No because by the time I finished running the numbers, there would be like three new Guided by Voices albums
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12:40 |
: How much has/will Stanton’s immediate outlook change based on this year? Is he now a lock for 500
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12:40 |
: I have ap iece in the hopper!
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12:41 |
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12:42 |
: The AL MVP race and candidates look to be great, while the NL side stinks. When’s the last time one league’
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12:42 |
: usually whenever Ohtani is ALSO pitching
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12:43 |
: many fans in the jays subreddit have been discussing the potential of yesavage being called up this September in a reliever role. Do you see this happening?
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12:43 |
: I don’t *THINK* they’ll do it but it’s worth considering
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12:44 |
: An aging Phillies core losing Zack Wheeler late in the season is brutal. How much does that one injury hurt their chances of winning the WS?
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12:44 |
: Beginning of chat!
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12:44 |
: Does Sal Perez get your hall vote if he wins another ws mvp?
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12:45 |
: It wouldn’t be based on THAT, but whether I do depends on how long he lasts. I’m a no right now if hti by bus
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12:45 |
The Only Nolan for second best pitcher named Nolan ever as early as next season. I don’t actually have a question.
: With 0.7 WAR in three starts Nolan McLean looks poised to overtake |
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: Fasle: There’s only The Only Nolan. ITS IN HIS NAME.
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12:45 |
: Are we getting any ZiPS Time Warps this offseason?
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12:46 |
: I’m thinking of doing a Dickie Thon one during the poastseason
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12:46 |
: Do you have a favorite team from the past you would like to see match up in today’s game? For me, the ’85 Blue Jays would be seem to be really dangerous.
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12:46 |
: not a favorite as there are a LOT of temas you’d want to see
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12:47 |
: like how would you not want to see the Yankees from the 20s play a game today?
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12:47 |
: out of curiosity even though it’s a bit unfair to them as they developed without modern facilities/coaching
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12:47 |
: Are you disappointed that this year’s playoff races has been pretty uninteresting?
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12:47 |
: To an extent. West has been fun
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12:47 |
: Dickie Thon! Wow that brings back memories. What, no Enos Cabell?
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12:48 |
: Thon was terrific!
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12:48 |
: Never realized being hit by a bus was disqualifying for Hall votes
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12:48 |
: if you got hit by a bus i’m decently confident that you wouldn’t be able to vote for the hof 5 years later
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12:49 |
: depends how hard I’m hit?
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12:49 |
: What do you think will be the biggest rule changes or tweaks between the last expansion draft and the next one?
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12:49 |
: I think we’ve already had it: the dumbfuckery we call extra innings
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12:50 |
: Looks like the red sox might promote Tolle or Kyle Harrison to join the rotation. Who do you think will be better down the stretch?
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12:50 |
: Harrison’s probably a lot safer
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12:50 |
: Thon’s ’82 and ’83 seasons were remarkable. Loved watching him play.
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12:50 |
: I think Wheeler got overlooked in the DeGrom Litmus Test article from last week concerning active 100-win pitchers. Can you share his likelihood of getting to 150 wins? 200? Thanks!
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12:50 |
: OH, did I cut him off?
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12:51 |
: In any case, the probability now looks to be preetty low sadly
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12:52 |
: it seems to not be the worst kind of the thoracic outlet syndrome that ended Strasburg’s career
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12:52 |
: but still…
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12:52 |
: I meant, like, rule changes to the expansion draft itself. Sorry that I wasn’t clear
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12:52 |
: I imagine the rules would be fairly similar
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12:53 |
: Though given the changes in how MLB teams have acted in 30 years, I think you’d see a push for more eprotected minor leaguers
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12:53 |
: Do I really have to give up all material possessions to achieve enlightenment, or can I keep a couple, like my dog & my truck?
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12:53 |
: Hey, I don’t think you should give up on stuff
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12:53 |
: have you seen teh economy without stuff?
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12:55 |
: What team do most Orlandians root for currently, if any? Rays are closer, right? Or are they just Braves fans by default?
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12:55 |
: I would imagine Braves or Yankees
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12:56 |
: I doubt there are enough Boomer/Gen X longtime fans to make Orlando love the Twins or something
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12:56 |
: Related to my question about ZiPS interpreting – are there any crazy ZiPS outputs (not bugs) that really made you scratch your head?
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12:57 |
: weirdly, a couple things that worked out well. Like ZiPS going nuts on Bieber before his breakout season (15th best projected pitcher that year) and it’s yearly obsession with Dean Kremer
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12:57 |
: What has George Springer’s season done to his ZiPS projections for next year? Should Mike Trout feast on his still beating heart to absorb the fountain of youth inside of him?
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12:58 |
: Is Arraez’s struggles a skill issue or an approach issue?
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12:58 |
: A combination
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12:58 |
: what’s for lunch? (is it a lunch day?)
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12:58 |
: It is not a lunch day
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12:58 |
: What are the cats up to?
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12:59 |
: Hiding. I took out one of the cages about 10 AM because I’m bringing Mercutio to the vet at 2 PM to get his monthly Solentsia injection (he’s 17 and has arthritis). So I haven’t seen a cat since then and nobody’s come down to visit me in my office, not even Justinian who is usually here this time of day
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1:00 |
: Luckily, Mercutio is the easiest to find and catch since while he’s a very nice cat, he’s also my dumbest cat, and has like two hiding place in a 2500 square foot house, both of which I can bend over and pick him up from.
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1:00 |
: While if Cassiopeia/Cassie hides, it’ll be HOURS to find her
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1:01 |
: Catching up, just now seeing the Bob in Trunk story. We used to do that too until we heard that if it comes with the risk of suffocating on the exhaust from the car. I hope Bob is wealthy and health.
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1:01 |
: We didn’t do it for long drives!
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1:02 |
: wouldn’t that get you an O2 sensor code or something?
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1:02 |
: Have you played Expedition 33?
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1:02 |
: Not yet. Weirdly enough, I already know the score well
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1:03 |
: It seems the type of game I’m going to have sit and play the shit out of, so I’m saving it for our holiday vacation in late december
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1:03 |
: I like playing games and stuff, but I never let it interfere with work!
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1:04 |
: And on that note, I have to go take Mercutio to the vet.
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1:04 |
: So thanks for coming everyone!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Speaking of The Only Nolan, I was stunned by the paucity of Malcoms in the big leagues. The only Malcolm (last name) seems to have been a “Malcom” (no other names) who played one game for the St. Louis Stars of the Negro American League in 1939. The only Malcolm who used it as a first name was Malcolm MacDonald who played two games for the New York Giants in 1902. There were some other players with Malcolm as a given first name, most recently in 1950, but they all went by Mal, Mac, Mack, Joe, or Scrappy. Mack Hills has the most bbWAR of these with 0.2 in 12 games (one in 1924, eleven in 1928). I started typing this in as a question but decided that was a bad idea.
ok, but to be fair, something like a plurality of pre war born baseball players had the words “joe”or “scrappy” as part of their name