Adam Wainwright, Luke Weaver, and Passing the Torch
Recently, St. Louis general manager John Mozeliak was asked about his starting rotation in 2018. He said he was mostly content to go to battle with the players he had. Consider this, for example, from Ben Frederickson of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:
Mozeliak says he's confident in the #STLCards rotation. Said a lot depends on how Waino looks. Carlos. Wacha. Weaver. Mikolas. Gant and Lyons could get in mix. "I feel like we are fine," pres said.
— Ben Frederickson (@Ben_Fred) December 14, 2017
It’s unclear if there’s a design behind the order in which Mozeliak names the staff, but he does single out Adam Wainwright as a somewhat unknown variable.
Now there’s a rumor that the Cardinals are in on Jake Arrieta, which, especially when seen next to this discussion of pitcher roles next year, might mean that the 36-year-old Wainwright is losing his grip on his rotation spot.
As bad as last year was for the veteran Cardinal righty — and it was, since he was somewhere between the 18th-worst and 36th-worst starting pitcher who threw at least 120 innings last year — the way the season progressed may have been even more disheartening than even the overall results.
Take a look at the pitchers who lost the most velocity on their four-seam fastballs between the first and second halves last year.
| Pitcher | Pitches | 1st Half Velo | 2nd Half Velo | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alex Wood | 47 | 93.8 | 91.2 | -2.7 |
| Luke Gregerson | 62 | 90.4 | 87.9 | -2.4 |
| Adam Wainwright | 41 | 90.2 | 87.8 | -2.4 |
| Travis Wood | 520 | 90.0 | 88.2 | -1.9 |
| Tony Zych | 210 | 94.9 | 93.2 | -1.8 |
| Jeurys Familia | 52 | 97.3 | 95.6 | -1.7 |
| Robert Stephenson | 731 | 94.8 | 93.1 | -1.7 |
| Trevor Rosenthal | 241 | 98.8 | 97.1 | -1.6 |
| Matt Belisle | 212 | 91.3 | 89.8 | -1.5 |
| Ryan Dull | 312 | 92.1 | 90.6 | -1.5 |
| Brad Boxberger | 388 | 93.4 | 91.9 | -1.5 |
Of the 584 pitchers who threw a four-seam fastball last year, Wainwright’s second-half velo would have ranked 19th worst in the group. In related news, he faced 116 batters in the second half and struck out just seven of them.
It’s possible that a return to the bullpen, where it all began for Wainwright, would make him an asset again. Most pitchers add around one-and-a-half ticks when they move to relief, and if he can average near 90 and throw a ton of curveballs, Wainwright might be a good sixth-inning bridge and a boon to the Cardinals bullpen a year after he was a weight around their collective neck.
That isn’t to say that Wainwright did not also leave a more positive legacy last year. The man with a vaunted curveball worked with 24-year-old rookie righty Luke Weaver and his hammer. Late last year the youngster described the pitch to me:
“The curve is a pitch I’m transitioning, I’m trying to use it in more aggressive ways,” Weaver said. “At first I was just trying to steal some strikes and get ahead, get it over the plate. Now I’m working that into how can I make this into a strikeout pitch. So I’m talking to Wainwright about what he’s doing in certain counts to make that an effective pitch.”
With his drop-and-drive, low-release-point delivery, Weaver may never have the curve that his mentor featured. But it does look like, in his last three games, Weaver found something that might be useful in the coming season: more horizontal movement.
| Pitcher | Velo | Drop | Cut |
|---|---|---|---|
| Early Weaver | 80.0 | -2.4 | 4.5 |
| 2014 Wainwright | 75.4 | -9.2 | 9.3 |
| Late Weaver | 79.6 | -1.9 | 6.1 |
By pitch-type values, three of Weaver’s four best curveball games came when he was throwing a curve that had more frisbee to it. A curve that looked like this:
As one pitcher ascends, another descends. Literally. Check out the pitchers that gained the most velocity on their four-seamers in the second half last year.
| Pitcher | Pitches | 1st Half Velo | 2nd Half Velo | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brandon Workman | 373 | 89.7 | 92.6 | 2.9 |
| Joe Musgrove | 271 | 92.6 | 94.7 | 2.0 |
| A.J. Cole | 668 | 91.6 | 93.2 | 1.7 |
| Hector Rondon | 245 | 95.8 | 97.4 | 1.6 |
| Edwin Jackson | 607 | 92.1 | 93.7 | 1.6 |
| Brian Ellington | 657 | 97.3 | 98.6 | 1.3 |
| Dominic Leone | 328 | 93.9 | 95.2 | 1.3 |
| Junior Guerra | 190 | 91.6 | 92.8 | 1.3 |
| Mike Foltynewicz | 533 | 94.7 | 95.9 | 1.3 |
| Tyson Ross | 199 | 91.0 | 92.2 | 1.2 |
| Luke Weaver | 803 | 92.0 | 93.2 | 1.2 |
Most of the pitchers on this list moved into the bullpen in the second half, or had a major health event from which they were returning. And to be fair, Weaver himself may have just found good health late in the season, since he’d been dealing with a disc issue earlier in the year.
“I just have to stay on top of the exercises and the stretches,” Weaver said earlier in the year about his back.
That, and listen to his elders.
With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.
They should trade Waino while he still has value. It may seem odd but it would be like letting Pujols walk, which ended up being the right decision.
That ship sailed in 2014. He’s a shell of his former self and is owed 20MM this year. Other than STL, I’m not sure who would want to pick up the tab for his 5+ era and 4k/9. It’s a shame to say, but he’s toast.
the Cardinals would have to hope the other team hasn’t watched Wainwright pitch recently
Yes, waino is bad television…
Eh, his FIP was literally average. He had a strange year, more than anything else. He was really good half the time, awful about 1/4 of the time.
His strikeout rate was bad half the time and league worst half the time. Same for velo.
It is a sign of the times that a guy posts a 4.30 FIP over 120 innings and somehow ekes out 1.5 WAR.
The arrow is obviously trending down but a team like the Mariners would kill for that (I mean, they did trade for Mike Leake).
At the worst he’ll be a league average pitcher this year, and possibly better than that. Cards easily have the best rotation in the NL Central
At this point, league average is his best. We haven’t seen his worst. One card fan’s opinion…
His worst is definitely not league average.
I don’t know, if there is one guy who can turn things around it’s Wainwright. His FIP and xFIP wasn’t too bad. Yes, the velocity drop was noticable but maybe with one more offseason of rest that achilles will be better and he’ll be able to push off and get more velo. Or, it really is the end. Wide range of outcomes IMO possible.
I love the Cardinals, but if there’s a stat that says Waino was okay last season, I’d immediately say the stat is not working. He was just terrible, barring a very few games.
He did have elbow surgery after the year and was clearly pitching injured throughout the second half. Primo Wainwright is clearly never coming back, but the in season velocity drop was probably due to injury.
He only threw 41 4 seamers to 116 batters?
Was mostly cutter sinker curve by end of year. Used to throw 4s more when it had gas.
We’re basing this velocity drop on 41 pitches? Could easily just be noise.
Was across board and velo and movement numbers stabilize super quickly.
Eno, I heard his curve has lost a lot of movement, and it sure looked that way when I saw him pitch. Do the numbers support this notion? Maybe I heard this from you, can’t remember
That’s three Cards in that list of velocity dips. One of them is out for the 2018 season, and Wainwright looks done as a major leaguer. Gregerson was signed for cheap and has some positive peripheral stats, but if that velocity doesn’t come back, he won’t be an effective reliever.
I think Mozeliak and Girsch are deluding themselves if they think their pitching staff is good to go in 2018. They need at least one more bullpen guy and one more quality starter. I think Arrieta makes a ton of sense for them, since he won’t command an exorbitant contract, and he was an ace not too long ago. STL will need some lucky breaks in order to catch up to the Cubs, who are still ahead of STL by many wins, and Arrieta could still be really good; a mid-rotation guy like Lynn doesn’t move the needle much. They’ve also got enough cash to get Darvish. They just acquired two years of Ozuna, so it doesn’t make sense to give up quality prospects and go into Spring Training with a roster that clearly needs more arms.