All-Star Game Live Blog
4:34 |
The FanGraphs After Dark Chat is on hiatus for one week so that we can bring you the All-Star Game Live Blog! Jeff Zimmerman will be here at 8 pm ET, I will be here at 9 pm ET and Chris Cwik may be around at some point, but then again maybe not. Either way, we’ll have you covered from start to finish, unless it’s a blowout or something. I’ll get some polls up, and you get some questions in the queue. It’s a plan that’s just crazy enough to work. See you tonight! |
4:41 |
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7:53 |
Jeff, were you the guy who came out with the pitcher injury probability thing? If so, is there a Rest of Season version of that that is available? Thanks |
7:56 |
On the previous question, I haven’t ever run mid season projections. The best I have is PAIN which I will go over in detail on Thursday. |
7:56 |
TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW AWESOME CHEVY IS |
7:57 |
: I had enough of that last night.
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7:57 |
Things you didn’t expect to say in 2013: “I wonder if Bartolo Colon will be a factor in the All Star Game” |
7:57 |
: Only with the pregame spread.
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7:59 |
Can you explain Trout’s projection for me. He currently has 5.7 WAR. He is projected for 3.3 ROS, but according to ZiPS and Steamer that only adds up to 8.7 instead of 9.0. Am I missing something here? |
8:01 |
: Let me look.
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8:01 |
: It looks like his defense off a bit, but not all of it. Let me ask the higher powers and will get back to you tonight or next week’s chat.
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8:02 |
I took the AL, because monetary interest is the only thing that will make this worth watching. |
8:03 |
: One of the few reason, besides Paul threatening me.
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8:03 |
Cliff Lee’s introduction. |
8:03 |
: Missed it, seems he was mad.
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8:04 |
More likely to make the all star team again: Jeff Locke or Brett Cecil? |
8:04 |
: Cecil, Locke is a half season wonder.
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8:04 |
good lord Cliff Lee looks like an angry man |
8:05 |
Travis Wood has a higher SLG than Brandon Phillips, Marco Scutaro, and Everth Cabrera. Thanks, fun leaderboards! |
8:05 |
: Now you know and know is half the battle.
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8:05 |
Cliff Lee is probably really annoyed that the only thing people ask him about is getting traded |
8:05 |
This is a pretty terrible National Anthem rendition. |
8:06 |
: I have heard so much worse recently.
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8:06 |
cliff lee is probably annoyed to be a philly |
8:06 |
Home field advantage in the World Series should be decided by a boxing match between the two managers. |
8:07 |
: or survivor series ultimate fighting match.
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8:08 |
are there PAIN and HURT tables on the site? |
8:08 | : Here is the last time I ran them: |
8:08 |
The NL leadoff hitter has a career wRC+ of 97. Great managing Bochy |
8:08 |
: I try not to make fun of him after the 2nd World Series win.
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8:09 |
J.J. Hardy, ASG starter. |
8:09 |
: SS is shallow in the AL
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8:09 |
actual baseball question: who do you like more long-term, j-zimm or ryu? |
8:10 |
: j-zimm, I am totally biased.
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8:10 |
Why should I care about home field advantage again? |
8:11 |
: It should be random, but some crazy percentage of the last W.S. have been won by the home team.
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8:11 |
I don’t get why Phillips is batting lead off. Bochy always has his second basemen hit second. |
8:11 |
: living on the edge.
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8:12 |
Joe Buck forgot his Clear Eyes for this one |
8:12 |
: Too bad someone didn’t forget Joe Buck.
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8:12 |
Mo blown save. Calling it now |
8:12 |
: Never bet against Mo.
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8:13 |
Is this McCarver’s last ASG as well? To me that’s a much bigger deal that should certainly be celebrated. |
8:13 |
: I will drink to that, one sec.
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8:13 |
An actual PITCHER throwing the first pitch? I thought the point of these was to laugh at non-pitchers making pathetic throws so we can better appreciate the greatness of pitchers. |
8:14 |
: I have some new appreciation of Seaver, some good stuff on him in LaRussa’s new book.
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8:14 |
What’s the deal with Old Spice? I’ve never understood it. |
8:15 |
: I don’t know, I will ask my father-in-law, he loves that stuff.
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8:15 |
Hey Jeff can we take a little time to complain about your consensus rankings?!? |
8:16 |
: I figured everyone has their fill of that over the last couple of days.
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8:16 |
Am I like the only one participating? It seems like half the comments are mine. |
8:16 |
: Now over half.
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8:17 |
How many times will Harvey hit 100? |
8:18 |
: Depends how much the Mets juice the gun.
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8:18 |
Ok, there’s a game on, goodbye. |
8:18 |
: What minor league game are you watching?
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8:18 |
Least deserving all star in your opinion? |
8:19 |
: I will go with Castro, but it is one the better years.
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8:19 |
Joe Buck – least deserving all star |
8:19 |
Least deserving all-star? Does Bochy count? |
8:19 |
Hey btw, fox deportes doesn’t have mccarver |
8:20 |
: There is that.
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8:20 |
it would be quite awesome/hilarious if Joey Votto hit a pop up tonight |
8:20 |
: to the pitcher.
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8:21 |
There are often young stars–but have we seen anything like Mach, Trout and Harper before? They really are something. |
8:22 |
Any other seasons? |
8:22 |
Matt Harvey – Assassin |
8:22 |
um. ouch. |
8:22 |
Mike Trout. Tim Salmon. Mike Carp. Catfish Hunter would have struck these guys out every time. Or maybe beaned them. |
8:23 |
The Met just had to nail the Yankee |
8:23 |
And PUIG!! |
8:23 |
To Michael – I believe Mantle, Mays and Snider all arrived within the same year. |
8:23 |
Is there someone on the astros more deserving than Castro? |
8:24 |
: The one player per team rule is the dumbest one. As a Royals fan see Ken Harvey make is just stupid.
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8:24 |
2001: Ichiro, Rollins, Pujols, CC, etc |
8:24 |
More shocking repeat performance of last years amazing season Trout or Cabrera? |
8:25 |
: Trout by far, less sustained greatness.
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8:25 |
Jesse – is it shocking when really good players are really good? |
8:25 |
Is anyone else getting fantasy stats for tonight’s performance on Yahoo. That seems weird, but my avg just increased when trout got a hit. |
8:26 |
: Take what you can get.
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8:26 |
Over under 33% on Trout in the HoF: |
8:26 |
: Over but he could pull an Andrew Jones.
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8:27 |
stats show on your roster, but you get no credit for them |
8:27 |
Andruw* |
8:27 |
: You are correct sir.
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8:28 |
Matt Harvey the “yankee clipper”? |
8:28 |
: So good, yet so bad.
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8:28 |
If you weren’t doing this chat, would you be watching the game? |
8:29 |
: Not early on, I may have watched later when the Royals may get in along with Rivera.
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8:30 |
Why didn’t they bunt Cabrera with 1st and 2nd and no outs? |
8:30 |
: LaRussa wasn’t managing.
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8:30 |
Matt Harvey and I share a birthday. He’s doing this and I’m eating nachos. I think tonight is the one night in which I have a better life than Matt Harvey. |
8:31 | : Maybe people know who you are: |
8:32 |
: Chevy commercial: Drink
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8:32 |
That, and not being a Met > being a Met, regardless. |
8:32 |
Here’s a nice sneak peek at all the commercials we’re gonna see all October |
8:32 |
: Time to set up our drinking games.
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8:33 |
Jeff what are some good rules? |
8:35 |
: We had some good ones the last few years. When we had the Nolan Ryan sighting rule, I about got alcohol poisoning.
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8:35 |
Hey guys, remember that season when Bryan LaHair was an all star?! |
8:35 |
: and now he is Japan.
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8:35 |
Take a drink every time McCarver says something dumb |
8:36 |
: We want to at least get to Paul in 24 minutes.
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8:36 |
I wish Angel Hernandez was calling the game. It would make things so fun! |
8:36 |
: But Chipper Jones wouldn’t watch.
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8:36 |
The surgeon general warns against that, Bobby |
8:36 |
@Bobby im drunk already |
8:37 |
I want Milton Bradley, Elijah Dukes, and Angel Hernandez… |
8:38 |
: Don’t we all, don’t we all. Maybe a little Kyle Farnsworth thrown in.
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8:38 |
For a sober All-Star drinking game, chug whenever Joe Buck sounds interested. |
8:39 |
Can you remember a weaker crop of AL outfielders? I mean freaking Colby Rasmus is second in WAR. |
8:39 |
: And they are all hurt in the NL.
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8:39 |
Need to include Big Z |
8:39 |
Randall Simon and a racing sausage |
8:39 |
Whats everyone drinking? Dales pale ale here |
8:39 |
: PBR
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8:40 |
I think Eno may show up an punch you for that Jeff |
8:41 |
Vodka |
8:41 |
Yuengling |
8:41 |
heroin |
8:41 |
Holy crap Seaver really likes butterflies |
8:41 |
: He must have lost a bet.
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8:42 |
is he drunk? |
8:42 |
he has the butterflies |
8:42 |
say butterflies, tom! say it! |
8:42 |
Tom Seaver has imaginary friends. |
8:42 |
Seaver said butterflies – DRINK! |
8:43 |
Please let me be that microphone |
8:43 |
: I think that is a given.
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8:43 |
Thanks Joe, those were his numbers. For. the mets. |
8:43 |
Every time someone mentions Harvey’s spikes drink :p |
8:44 |
Would you rather be a microphone that had the ability spontaneously fray a wire so you could electrocute Joe Buck? |
8:45 |
: Tough call. I can mute Buck, so microphone.
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8:45 |
I wasn’t alive when this happend so I’ll ask you: Whose debut was more electric: Doc Gooden or Harvey’s? |
8:46 |
: To me it was Doc, he was Strasburg crazy
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8:46 |
If McCarver thinks “ambassador” is the perfect word, then it sure as hell isn’t the perfect word |
8:46 |
Every time they show a former cocaine user – CHUG. |
8:46 |
: How may 80’s Mets are at the game?
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8:47 |
Is that worth having Buck-spit on you? |
8:47 |
Very time they flash the camera to a retired met we drink |
8:47 |
@Mangus Does Jeff Locke count?? |
8:47 |
Jason Castro is 2nd in the AL in WAR behind Mauer. Can’t be that bad of a pick. |
8:48 |
: Like I said, it was one of the better seasons for picks.
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8:48 |
Is there anything on record about which cocaine users are indeed “former”, and not just “current”? |
8:48 |
: I was trying to be nice.
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8:48 |
We need MLB stars for a commercial! Lets get josh hamilton and cj wilson |
8:49 |
: and we want to make it in LA.
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8:49 |
he just called you old, jeff |
8:50 |
: I am though, Paul and I are the old ones at the FG gatherings.
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8:50 |
well, CJ and Josh weren’t busy practicing |
8:50 |
c’mon matt, own up to it, you drilled him for giggles! |
8:50 |
This night won’t be complete until a drunken ex-Met tells Erin Andrews he “justttt wanths to kith you!” |
8:51 |
chris sale’s slider should be illegal. |
8:51 |
: by following a team in the AL central, I agree.
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8:52 |
I so so so so so hope this game is tied in the 15th |
8:53 |
: Don’t we all and shots of Selig would be drink.
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8:53 |
Which was a better pitch: the big units slider or pedro’s changeup? |
8:54 |
: I will take Pedro’s change because it was better against both handed hitters. Both were insane though.
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8:54 |
Chris Sale is the only thing keeping the White Sox afloat. |
8:54 |
Is Chris Sale the best pound-for-pound pitcher in MLB history? |
8:55 |
: maybe Pedro?
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8:55 |
The White Sox are afloat? |
8:55 |
He keeps them from tipping to far to port side |
8:56 |
The white sox are afloat? Hawk harrelson will be ecstatic to hear it |
8:56 |
I was thinking Bartolo Colon |
8:56 |
I was thinking Bartolo Colon … |
8:56 |
: Guest and ljc are on the same wave length.
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8:57 |
Bochy just put in the best pitcher on the face of the planet |
8:57 |
: Agree with you 100%
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8:57 |
plot twist – guest is ljc is bartolo colon |
8:57 |
: Mind blow
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8:58 |
: Orange shoes mention: Drink.
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8:58 |
Guest actually is ljc … I forgot to put in a name first time and thought my comment wouldn’t go through because of it. Clearly it was so mind-blowing of a comment I just had to resubmit. |
8:58 |
I SORT OF WIN MY PLOT TWIST |
8:59 |
I think Buck just called scherzer ugly |
8:59 |
: in a round about way.
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8:59 |
Aren’t we all just thinking Bartolo Colon? |
9:00 |
: We are still amazed he is in the league some how.
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9:00 |
was pedroia in ratatouille? |
9:00 |
: He was too short.
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9:01 |
How does Buck say that pitch is “up” and away?? It was at his knees…. |
9:02 |
Some live leaderboards for the all-star game: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2013&month=34&season1=2013&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0 |
9:02 |
: Thanks Dark Overlord!
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9:02 |
: The boss is checking in, I better behave.
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9:02 |
Are we all Bartolo Colon? |
9:02 |
: And also, hi everybody!
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9:02 |
are you really David Appelman? Or are you also Bartolo Colon? |
9:02 |
Colon will end his career with 200+ wins |
9:03 |
: I’m on my second strawberry vodka lemonade of the night, so I’m in even more of a good mood than usual. And you know I’m always in a good mood to talk to ya’ll.
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9:03 |
: Jeff is gonna take a brief break. Let’s give him a slow golf clap for holding down the first hour.
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9:03 |
: I am out for bit, enjoy Paul while I go find some chips and salsa.
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9:03 |
Welcome to chaos, Paul |
9:04 |
Kershaw has a 5.96 xFIP tonight. Overrated! |
9:04 |
: and drink because of the old spice commercial.
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9:04 | : He’s only human: |
9:04 |
Anyone in the room going to be at the Chicago drinking event on Friday? (I will be.) |
9:05 |
: I don’t think Jeff will be, and I know I won’t. Although I REALLY want to. Pissed I’m gonna miss R. Kelly headlining Pitchforkfest. And the FG/BG meetup, of course.
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9:05 |
: Actually, I may have details soon on a Boston FG meetup in August. Maybe. We’ll see. Keep your ear to the ground, etc.
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9:06 |
Sharknado was better than Man of Steel and it wasn’t even close. That’s right Paul. |
9:06 |
: I missed Sharknado. I assume they’ll be replaying it approximately 4,304 times the rest of the summer?
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9:07 |
Bell’s Lager of the Lakes is tasting good. |
9:07 |
I assume Red 2 is a biopic on the life of Wedge Antilles. |
9:07 |
: I’m sure Jaack will be all over me for this, but I enjoyed Red. It didn’t try to be more than it was. It was kind of like the PC version of the Expendables. Good times.
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9:07 |
: Having said that, I don’t think we needed a sequel.
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9:08 |
I’m listening to the game on radio. Shut up Colin Cowherd, even though it’s a prerecorded commercial. Just shut up. |
9:08 |
: That would be tough, but I’d allow it.
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9:08 |
Genuine moment? More like awkward moment. |
9:09 |
: Agreed, though awkward moments CAN be genuine.
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9:09 |
“after cuddyer does something here” – Joe Buck, everybody |
9:09 |
: Pretty sure they ran interviews or otherwise focused away from the game during all three of the Rockies PAs. This is why people make claims of East Coast Bias.
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9:09 |
I’m drinking tea am I still allowed to stay? |
9:10 |
: Yes. Yes you are.
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9:10 |
: Speaking of tea, my new brother-in-law from North Carolina tried to order sweet tea at a diner in upstate NY this weekend. They looked at him like he had six heads. It was pretty funny.
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9:10 |
I can’t get enough of Helen Mirren as an assassin. |
9:10 |
I actualley enjoyed Red for what it was worth. |
9:10 |
awkward moments are usually genuinely awkward |
9:11 |
I’ll be the designated driver |
9:11 |
What are the odds that the perfect game holds at this point? |
9:11 |
: I’ll say slim.
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9:11 |
Has there ever been a no-no in an all star game? |
9:11 |
: Not sure. I want to say no, but I’m not sure. Anyone else?
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9:11 |
YOU GUYS JINXED IT! |
9:11 |
Mr. met is the lamest MLB mascot. (Stanford tree is the worst mascot overall.) |
9:12 |
: I think I have to disagree. There are a bunch of stupid mascots out there.
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9:12 |
: Thanks for the break Paul, long enough to grab another PBR and make some salsa.
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9:12 |
: No problem Jeff!
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9:12 |
UCSB Banana Slugs – best mascot |
9:12 |
Philliy Phanatic best in baseball! |
9:13 |
: I prefer the San Diego Chicken myself.
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9:13 |
: Which college about went to the Ackbars?
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9:13 |
sorry, UCSC |
9:13 |
No All Star No-No, but Carl Hubbell did strikeout Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Al Simmons, and Joe Cronin in a row that time, which is just about as good. |
9:13 |
: Meh, Pedro was better.
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9:14 |
No no hitters but 8 shutouts. http://www.kgbanswers.com/has-there-ever-been-a-no-hitter-in-the-all-star-game/4290947 |
9:14 |
: Definitive.
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9:14 |
I’m over 8. I don’t need a mascot |
9:14 |
: Right. Never forget that they’re aimed for children. And that children love them no matter how stupid you think they are. Getting worked up about it is a pointless exercise.
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9:15 |
: and the grown ups who do the wave.
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9:15 |
: Between the defense and the double, Miggy an early frontrunner for MVP.
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9:15 |
Bartolo Colon is clearly the best mascot, because he also plays. |
9:15 |
Pedro was better only because you saw it for yourself 😛 |
9:15 |
: Yeah but still
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9:15 |
Next year, All-Star bat flinging contest instead of HR derby |
9:15 |
: Can we has both?
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9:16 |
: Agree, Cespedes had a good one for sure.
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9:16 |
ole miss fighing ackbars |
9:16 |
Ole Miss Running Rebels want to change the mascot to Admiral Ackbar |
9:16 |
Ole Miss almost did, but they nixed it. they’re the bears or something now |
9:17 |
Would you ever leave the house just to spend less than $2 at the drive thru? |
9:17 |
: I’m fairly certain that I would, yes.
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9:17 |
: Unfortunately, I live in a town where drive thrus are not allowed. It’s like living in the 1940s. Very frustrating.
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9:18 |
: yea, 4 Jack-in-the-Box Tacos was a staple of my navy years.
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9:18 |
beefy five layer burrito. QED |
9:18 |
: You had me at beefy.
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9:18 |
: Me too.
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9:19 |
: And there is our first run.
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9:19 |
Are you shitting us about the drive thru thing? |
9:19 |
Sounds like a scary town |
9:19 |
: NO!
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9:19 |
: It even came up for a vote THIS YEAR and was voted down. When I found out I was kind of mad I didn’t go to the town meeting.
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9:19 |
: It’s just Boston.
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9:20 |
The Beefy Five Layer Burrito is indeed quite heavenly. I often find it takes two to truly satiate though, which brings you over 2 dollars. |
9:20 |
Does the local pastor allow school dances in your town? |
9:20 |
: We’re weird. You couldn’t buy booze on Sunday’s here until like 2004.
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9:20 |
: Hey now. We don’t even have local pastors. You want Jeff’s neighborhood for questions like that.
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9:20 |
Drive-thru’s not allowed? We just barely got rid of alcohol drive-thru’s here in NM |
9:21 |
: I remember the first time I saw one of those. It blew my mind. And my wallet.
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9:21 |
how clutch was that rbi by Joey Bats? |
9:21 |
: So.
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9:21 |
: Totally.
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9:21 |
Think the idiots with the mics were given EXPLICIT instructions not to mention Biogenesis tonight? |
9:22 |
: Probably, unless Braun or A-rod is brought up.
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9:22 |
: You mean player-wise? Or the broadcasters? I doubt the players would talk about it, but Tim and Joe … maybe. And if so, GOOD! Let’s have a night where we can just focus on baseball.
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9:22 |
: I’m not going to lie, I’m pretty jacked up for Elysium.
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9:23 |
: I read today that Neil Bloomkamp (sp?) turned down Star Wars to keep doing original movies like Elysium and District 9. I like that decision.
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9:23 |
Still can’t buy booze on Sunday’s in most of NC 🙁 |
9:23 |
you can’t buy hard liquor here on sundays |
9:24 |
: I will watch it on video.
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9:24 |
Elysium does look sweet |
9:24 |
looks better than man of steel |
9:24 |
: LISTEN! Man Of Steel was awesome.
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9:24 |
Focus on baseball? Buck and McCarver have talked more about Scherzer’s shoes than about anything about baseball |
9:24 |
: I liked his shoes too!
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9:24 |
you’ll watch hard liquor on video? |
9:24 |
: In KS, counties have to vote on it or a person can have a winery in stumbling distance from their house.
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9:25 |
: You say that like its a bad thing.
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9:25 |
On the 20-80 scale, how excited are you guys for ARODs season debut? 90? |
9:25 |
: I’d be more excited if I was a Yankees fan. It’s pretty funny that they now really need whatever diminished production he can offer them.
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9:26 |
: I just want him playing, not sure anyone else does, which is why I want him playing.
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9:27 |
: I say definitive yes, FWIW. Jeff?
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9:27 |
: WTH, no need to describe McCruchen (sp?) to people in baseball.
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9:28 |
: Man, what an awesome throw and an even more awesome slide by McCutchen. That was an awesome sequence right there.
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9:28 |
Felix can’t handle the pressure of New York |
9:28 |
If I voted “I think so” but don’t actually check, have I committed fraud? |
9:28 |
Zips projects the pirates to finish at 92-70. Over or under? |
9:28 |
: Totally choking.
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9:29 |
: Under unless they make a trade or 2. I am not buying Locke one bit.
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9:29 |
: I think that sounds good. Our standings page, which is based on a ZiPS/Steamer ROS hybrid, also has 92-70.
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9:29 |
Joe Buck sounds so excited about Elysium. I bet he loved Man of Steel |
9:29 |
But Locke is an All-Star! |
9:30 |
: Joe Buck doesn’t know how to fun down. He probably didn’t even SEE Man Of Steel.
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9:30 |
: Miggy making inroads on that Gold Glove tonight.
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9:30 |
I found the secret to getting your questions posted! Man of Steel was bad! Or, alternatively, Man of Steel was good! That man, he was made of steel! |
9:30 |
: Damnit.
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9:30 |
: With Paul in charge, yes.
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9:31 |
: one sec, drinking.
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9:31 |
: ok.
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9:31 |
: Why would you deliberately take your son that close to a cliff? Just sayin.
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9:32 |
: Also, I’m pretty sure that meeting Robinson Cano at a preordained meet and greet that he doesn’t want to be at is not a good incentive to get me to drink Pepsi.
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9:32 |
It builds grit, Paul. |
9:32 |
Another pirates question: Better ROS: Burnett or Liriano? |
9:32 |
: I’ll say Burnett.
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9:33 |
: Burnett because I think he will start more games.
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9:33 |
If this chat had to stop a second everytime someone was drinking, how many questions would get answered? Zero right? |
9:33 |
: Normally we’re not drinking, honest.
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9:33 |
The Robinson Cano Pepsi commercial is so much better since Harvey kneecapped him. |
9:34 |
: Yeah, don’t bother trading Cliff Lee, Phillies. You’re right on the cusp!
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9:34 |
Mid season MVPs, Cy Youngs? |
9:35 |
: Apologies if Jeff already did this.
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9:35 |
: No, not yet.
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9:36 |
: I’ll say Miggy and Felix, and CarGo and Kerhaw.
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9:36 |
: Kershaw
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9:36 |
: Mig Cab, scherzer,
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9:37 |
: With the NL, it could go down to who makes the playoffs.
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9:37 |
What if you factor in team record (like the sportswriters do)? |
9:37 |
: I kind of do as a tie breaker.
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9:37 |
: I kind of am. The fact that CarGo kept the Rockies from falling apart with both Tulo and Fowler on the shelf is nothing short of remarkable.
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9:38 |
: Speaking of which, if Tulo just hurt himself on that half-assed dive, I swear.
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9:38 |
Tim McCarver can’t accurately subtract 13 from 2. |
9:38 |
: At least it’s his last year.
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9:38 |
What happens if the NL takes the lead and Mo hasn’t appeared after 8? Would they actually play the bottom of the 9th? |
9:38 |
: I am trying not to listen.
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9:39 |
: They wouldn’t. But this is why Rivera should get the 8th if the NL is leading.
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9:39 |
Paul or Jeff, do U like all-star games when it’s low scoring? |
9:39 |
: Mo with pitch the 8th no matter what.
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9:39 |
: I do, but it is a little more fun with some big hits.
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9:39 |
: They usually are and yes I do
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9:39 |
But nobody’s going to vote for CarGo in October if the Rockies finish with 70 wins. |
9:40 |
: Agree 100%
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9:40 |
: I don’t know that that’s fair. A-Rod won MVP on a last place team. And the Mariners weren’t really good when Felix won Cy Young.
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9:41 |
Gritty RBI by Hardy |
9:41 |
: It depends if someone else is close. If the Orioles make it and the Tigers don’t, I think Davis get the MVP in the AL
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9:42 |
: WHATT??!!
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9:42 |
McCarver just lost his shit. |
9:42 |
: If Phillips had dropped that ball, McCarver would be killing him for hot dogging it. But he made it, so you gotta love him. OK, Tim.
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9:42 |
Sick play by BP! |
9:42 |
for MVP though, A-Rod was clearly the choice. when there are a bunch of other NL candidates I doubt Gonzalez gets votes. |
9:43 |
: Who knows, CarGo may end up being the definitive choice. He’s one of only four NL players at break with 4.5 WAR or more. And he has gone on incredible tears before. Not likely, but it’s certainly possible.
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9:43 |
Just for fun or sorta helpful b/c Trout was running? |
9:43 |
McCackle |
9:44 |
: I’ll say just for fun.
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9:44 |
Molina getting a lot of MVP love. |
9:44 |
Molina will win MVP and deserve it |
9:44 |
: Molina is a good choice as well. WAR undervalues him.
|
9:45 |
No Cwik tonight? Not that I don’t love you guys, but Man of Steel and stuff. |
9:45 |
: Chris may be by later.
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9:45 |
: Holy cow the bullpen is huge.
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9:45 |
Does WAR contain pitch framing numbers at the moment? |
9:45 |
: No, not currently.
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9:46 |
GOOOOOOAAALLL USA |
9:46 |
: I think you want a different chat.
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9:46 |
: The futures game happened Sunday.
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9:46 |
: Although, that is cool. Just not tonight. Not tonight.
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9:46 |
MVP is the Beefy Crunch Burrito |
9:47 |
: Over the Cheesy Gordita Crunch? Not likely.
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9:47 |
What about throwing out runners? |
9:47 |
: McCrackle looks drunk in that image.
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9:48 |
Did they just f’ing compare Tim McCarver to Yadier Molina. |
9:48 |
: Have we really endured these two for 15 years? Man, I guess we can endure anything.
|
9:48 |
: Yes, yes they did.
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9:48 |
How many more wins so you think Molina would have if pitch framing was in WAR? |
9:48 |
: probably 2 over the course of a season.
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9:48 |
How to win: score runs. Genius! |
9:49 |
: Two max. And he’d be on the high end of that spectrum. I think it is an important factor, but not one that would redefine how we think about the position.
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9:49 |
Futures game comment: How awful was Tajuan Walkers hair? |
9:50 | : Dave Cameron said the same thing on Twitter, and Walker was none too pleased about it: |
9:50 |
What a teaser! Jason Grilli interview … WHEN WE COME BACK. |
9:51 |
: I stood up to walk closer to the TV just so I could hear the whole thing!
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9:51 |
Why did you post my question and ignore it? |
9:51 |
: I was hoping Jeff would answer it!
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9:52 |
: No go and it would not be too high. I think Klaasen tracks it.
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9:52 |
: Thanks Jeff.
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9:52 |
: Side note – It pisses me ff that they’re running fantasy football ads during this game. There isn’t a second half fantasy baseball game that they could create and then advertise that instead?
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9:52 |
: EEEEXXXXXPPPLLLLLODDDDEESSS
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9:52 |
Would you rather your catcher focus on receiving and working with pitchers, or hitting. (If he had to make a choice.) |
9:53 |
: Probably the former.
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9:53 |
: Helping the pitchers
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9:53 |
will we ever get a fangraphs app for android? |
9:54 |
: I wouldn’t hold my breath.
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9:54 |
: Probably not
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9:54 |
Real Tajuan Walker question. My GF and I were watching the Future’s Game and we have no clue what Tajuan Walker is, ethnicity. Not that it matters. Just wondering |
9:55 |
: Wikipedia doesn’t say. Not sure either.
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9:56 |
If Lebron played baseball would he dethrone King Felix? |
9:56 |
: I don’t think so. Soccer or football, on the other hand…
|
9:56 |
: I think he would be an outfielder.
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9:56 |
@Paul: advertising sports games to sports fans = pissed off? |
9:57 |
: I just wish tonight was only about baseball.
|
9:57 |
Jose Fernandez in the bigs is the worst organizational decision by any big league club this season. |
9:58 |
: During the season, maybe. Some horrible off season decisions.
|
9:58 |
: He has an 84 FIP-. He was clearly ready. And pitchers only have so many bullets in their arm. You don’t hold pitchers back for service time games. And even if it costs them a little more in the end, their payroll is so low that they will be able to afford it.
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9:58 |
The Giants signed Jeff Francouer. How’s that for an organizational decision. |
9:59 |
: That is, if they choose to. Which they clearly won’t.
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9:59 |
: I had no problem with the Frenchy signing. If it doesn’t work out, I don’t think he will hold a spot there like he did in KC. There is no emotional attachment to him in SF like the KC front office had.
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10:00 |
Scoff: How can one not have an emotional attachment to Francoeur |
10:00 |
What about the Dodgers trading for Carlos Marmol? |
10:01 |
: THAT was probably worst. And what made it so bad was that Mike Petriello predicted it.
|
10:01 |
Manny gets a major league AB within the month. True or False? |
10:01 |
: I’ll say false.
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10:01 |
The Giants also were starting a Japanese 2nd baseman in left field. |
10:01 |
https://twitter.com/MLB/status/357317453140869120. We can start voting for All-Star MVP. Since the game is like half over |
10:02 |
: I’m sure that they negotiated a specific number of tweets with T-Mobile for that. And to be fair, sometimes you know who the MVP is halfway through. Like in 1999, for example.
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10:03 |
: Also, to be even more fair, it probably helps the MVP campaign if there ISN’T a clear cut MVP, because it will generate more tweets, etc.
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10:03 |
: Mo Rivera better win.
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10:05 |
: Well, I am going to head out. I may be back, but probably not. Also, I will not be hear next week and the wife and I will be a taking a small vacation.
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10:05 |
Jeff Zimmerman : Mariano Rivera :: Paul Swydan : Man of Steel |
10:05 |
: Thanks Jeff. Enjoy your time off!
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10:06 |
: I will try.
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10:06 |
BaseballHeatMaps.com, and Royals Review on SB Nation.
: Guys, as always, you can check out Jeff’s MASH Report here, as well as his work at |
10:06 |
Who is it now? Cabrera? |
10:07 |
: Him or Chris Sale.
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10:07 |
I think they should give it to Steve Delabar since this is his last All-Star Game. |
10:07 |
MVP will be Allen Craig. Dude is an RBI machine. In all seriousness, his .496 average with RISP is a little insane. |
10:07 |
Carpenter is a good baseball player… |
10:08 |
: I wish Joe Buck knew as much about the other 29 teams as he did about the Cardinals. Since it’s, you know, his job and all.
|
10:08 |
Just FYI, Mauer currently leads in WPA |
10:08 |
: Thanks!
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10:08 |
Are there stats kept for how many broken bats a pitcher induces. You could say that would determine the MVP to the Louisville Slugger company. |
10:08 |
: I don’t think so, but that’s another category Rivera would probably be winning.
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10:09 |
What kind of all-star game is it if you send in Grant Balfour but only let him live up to his name once? |
10:09 |
: A suboptimal one?
|
10:10 |
Brings to mind DSheps awesome post about Mo’s bat breaking cutter |
10:10 |
Did you see the chair Mo got from the Twins made from all the bats he broke of theirs? |
10:10 |
: That was pretty cool. I wonder which of his houses he’ll put it in.
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10:10 |
Joe Buck knows the names of the other 29 teams! At least most of them! That counts for something, right? |
10:10 |
: This time it counts!
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10:10 |
Given how hard it has been for closers to get into the Hall will regular relief pitchers ever have a shot? |
10:11 |
: Bruce Sutter getting in was basically the best thing to ever happen to relief pitchers. So, yeah.
|
10:12 |
: What do we think about this Brooklyn Nine-Nine show? Anyone? We have to support Ken Tremendous shows, don’t we?
|
10:12 |
Three more outs until we get to hear Neil Diamond lip synch his only relevant song. How excited are you? |
10:13 |
: You shut your mouth when you’re talking to me. You obviously need to go watch “Saving Silverman” a few more times.
|
10:13 |
: But yes, I’m quite excited for a Boston trend to creep into a NY-hosted ASG. Ha.
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10:13 |
I got you hazelnut…\ |
10:13 |
Needs more McCarver-bashing |
10:13 |
Brooklyn Nine-Nine gets a courtesy watch for sure, we’ll see from there |
10:14 |
I’m not watching tonight, but has Buck mentioned his favorite job calling NFL games yet? |
10:14 |
: Not that I’ve heard, but I haven’t been able to hear clearly since the third inning, which is when my ears started bleeding.
|
10:14 |
: I’d get up and clean them, but then I’d be missing out on chat time!
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10:14 |
Chapman with a 3-0 pitch at 95. Is that his changeup? |
10:15 |
: I remember the first time I saw him, his “offspeed” stuff was literally 89. Filthy.
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10:15 |
Brooklyn-9-9 will get 15 mins of my undivided attention. They better be good minutes. |
10:15 |
I have a mild sense of excitement for Brooklyn nine-nine. |
10:15 |
I’m actually excited for Brooklyn Nine Nine, I like Samberg and Schur, and love Joe Lo Truglio |
10:15 |
: Well it only follows that you’d be excited about a show with numbers in the title, 23553.
|
10:16 |
did Encarnacion just try to leapfrog his bat? |
10:16 |
: Eh, he wasn’t beating it out anyway.
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10:16 |
I’ve seen all the good comedy series already so I have to watch Brooklyn Nine Nine because theres nothing else. |
10:16 |
Y’all should watch The Night Shift. I’m in it. http://www.nbc.com/the-night-shift/ |
10:16 |
: Seriously?
|
10:17 |
As bad a rap as Buck and McCarver get and somewhat deserve, come playoff time it doesn’t feel like a “real” playoff game if they’re not calling it. I volunteer this info: a very minor part of my disappointment in the Nats blowing the NLDS was they wouldn’t get into games called by the Buck-McCarver team. And screw Dick Stockton who rooted harder for the Cards than Buck would ahve. |
10:17 |
: I have a feeling that many people are not going to share that opinion with you.
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10:17 |
Given all the cut and paste police procedural dramas a police comedy should be a nice new take on the format |
10:17 |
: I hope so.
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10:17 |
Seriously |
10:18 |
: Wow, that’s cool.
|
10:18 |
To hell with the McCarver/Buck tandem, bring back John Miller and Joe Morgan! |
10:18 |
McCarver has a decent voice and Buck does not say an especially large number of stupid things. if the opposites were also true they would be fine. |
10:18 |
Counterpoint: Joe Buck is a smug asshole. |
10:19 |
: What was that spasmic blinking all about, Marc Anthony?
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10:19 |
: I don’t care for this background music. What is this? We don’t need background music.
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10:20 |
GARBAGE |
10:20 |
I need to watch another medical show like I need a hole in the head. |
10:20 |
: Agreed, esp since my wife has been subjecting me to Grey’s Anatomy reruns lately, but that’s still cool that Filihok is in it.
|
10:21 |
Would you watch a baseball game if Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler were the announcers? |
10:21 |
: I don’t see how you could possibly stop me.
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10:21 |
Stand at attention when God Bless America is playing. Unless they show you on the jumbotron then freak out and wave like an idiot. |
10:21 |
maybe the medical show would teach you how to fix the hole in your head |
10:21 |
You kind of do need holes in the head for breathing and hearing. |
10:22 |
Congrats to filihok, I hope all the ladies enjoy the show. |
10:22 |
Marc Anthony. Better or worse than Pit Bull |
10:22 |
: Worse. WAY worse.
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10:22 |
: Marc Anthony is even worse than Smurfs 2. And Smurfs 2 is going to be an abomination.
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10:22 |
Marc Anthony looks like the ice truck killer from dexter. but uglier |
10:22 |
: I’m going to have to trust you on that one.
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10:23 |
By the way listen to Stockton’s Game 4 Werth HR call if you don’t believe me on that point. |
10:23 |
: I didn’t say that I care for Dick Stockton’s game calling. I just don’t agree that Buck and McCarver are the guys I NEED to hear for a game to be special.
|
10:23 |
Paul, will your Padres keep sucking in the second half? |
10:24 |
: Yup, until they decide that pitching is a part of the game worth investing money in.
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10:24 |
bdhudson I agree on Marc Anthony 100% looking like ice truck killer |
10:24 |
: That’s two!
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10:24 |
: Oh my Machado.
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10:24 |
: Goldschmidt is a fast runner for a first baseman, Tim.
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10:25 |
If Trout out-WARs Cabrera at the end of the season he will have about a 10% chance of MVP? Because RBI’s. |
10:25 |
: I don’t know. I’ll say more than 10%. But it won’t be a slam dunk, obviously.
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10:26 |
I think Kruk and Kuip should be on national tv |
10:26 |
: I would support this. I would also support Don and Jerry, although I admit that they are an acquired taste.
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10:26 |
: I’d also support Dick Enberg. Who actually still regularly calls baseball.
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10:26 |
btw, my girlfriend would like it to be known that the ice truck killer reference was hers |
10:27 |
: Noted.
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10:27 |
Why not have the best local guys do more national games? It happened plenty 20+ years ago. |
Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.
Does anyone else feel like Bautista doesn’t really deserve to be in the ASG?
Hm.
No, I think Bautista belongs.
The AL outfielders have been a pretty mediocre bunch this season, and I’d still put him in my top three.