August Fagerstrom FanGraphs Chat — 5/17/16
11:50 |
: Just a heads up: probably gonna be a few minutes late
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11:50 |
: OK, everyone’s heads are now *up*
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12:09 |
: OK, I’m here!
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12:09 |
: Hello, friend!
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12:10 |
: Hi, Bork!
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12:10 |
: Bork is the official mascot of the August Fagerstrom Tuesday Chat
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12:11 |
: Should we be more worried about deGrom or Harvey? Or will both work it out as the season progresses?
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12:12 |
: deGrom’s velocity, coupled with his strikeout rate and public comments, certainly don’t paint a rosy picture. That being said, he still doesn’t walk anyone, and he’s got good enough offspeed stuff to continue getting whiffs and grounders, so it’s not like he’s about to be a disaster
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12:13 |
: Based on the swinging strike rate, the strikeouts should come up, too
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12:13 |
: The worry for a guy like deGrom is simply “maybe not a top-10 pitcher in baseball but still really good” which is fine, since this is the same team that has Noah Syndergaard
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12:14 |
: Harvey is a little more confusing, but I’m less concerned about him than deGrom. With deGrom, there’s the obvious velocity drop to point to, and the obvious public comments. Harvey just seems a little off. He’s still mostly got his stuff, it’s just been a bit worse
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12:14 |
: Doesn’t seem like he’s too far removed from being himself
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12:15 |
: Odor: 80 punch tool?
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12:16 |
: Relative to other baseball players, who are mostly terrible at fighting, maybe
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12:16 |
: Berrios got shelled last night and didn’t make it out of the first inning. Just a bad night or a sign he got pushed up too early?
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12:16 |
: He was/is ready to pitch in the bigs
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12:17 |
A: 1,673 IP | 9.81 K/9 | 2.53 BB/9 | 0.54 HR/9 | 63 ERA- | 66 FIP- B: 1,632 IP | 9.44 K/9 | 2.27 BB/9 | 0.64 HR/9 | 63 ERA- | 68 FIP- |
12:17 |
: No, no I cannot
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12:17 |
: Can Fredi Gonzalez be too shocked he was going to get fired? This was something that was pretty much guaranteed to happen since January, was it not?
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12:17 |
: He was the most likely manager to be in-season fired before the season began, yah
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12:18 |
: Teheran and vizcaino for carson fulmer, Tyler danish, Jordan guerrero and micker adolfo. Who says no?
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12:18 |
: The Braves because Micker Adolfo is clearly not a real person and therefore has no trade value
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12:19 |
: What do the Pirates do with Jon Niese once the Super 2 deadline passes? They’re paying him a lot to suck, plus they traded Walker to get him.
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12:20 |
: I’d say Locke’s the first one out. Niese’s peripherals aside from his HR/FB% aren’t far off
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12:20 |
: and he’s just better than Locke anyway
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12:21 |
: Thoughts on Richards with respect to his ability to come back at full strength this year?
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12:21 |
: Not liking his chances
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12:22 |
: Can Nomar Mazara keep up this level of production throughout the whole season or is he due for significant regression.
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12:22 |
: He can keep up a 109 wRC+ for the rest of the season, yes
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12:22 |
: He could be quite a bit better than that, too. Or worse!
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12:22 |
: There’s a couple glaring holes in the Royals’ rotation right now. I know that Duffy/Flynn game on Sunday was just a bullpen day but do you think they might give some thought to moving Duffy back into the rotation? His numbers are really good albeit in short spurts of relief work.
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12:24 |
: I’m not sure I buy Duffy as a starter. The durability and platoon splits make me think he’s the kind of guy who can be a real weapon out of the pen and a liability in the rotation. The real problem is that I’m not sure the Royals have any better alternatives
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12:25 |
: How long does Bartolo have to keep being Bartolo before he’s a Hall of Fame candidate?
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12:25 |
: Longer than what’s possible
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12:26 |
: Carlos Rodon a few days ago: “I’ve never been a guy that’s been super command, I’ve been a guy that has overpowered people. And I think I just need to stick to that. So what if I walk someone? So what if I walk four or five? I’m still going to go six innings, still going to give you a quality start. That’s the way I’ve got to think. I’ve just got to be that bulldog that says ‘Screw it, I’m going to come at you with everything I’ve got. Mano-y-mano, let’s see if you can hit it.’ And most of the time they don’t.”
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12:26 |
: This is pretty much how Trevor Bauer thinks too
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12:27 |
: Is Wilmer Flores, aside from being last year’s cult hero, just not a good baseball player? Career .285 OBP with middling defense, I think the Mets will want to upgrade their utility players at the deadline.
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12:27 |
: He’s a fine bench piece
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12:27 |
: He’s probably not a starter on a contender, and certainly not at shortstop
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12:28 |
: Is anyone who fancied themselves a contender before the season at the point where the only logical course of action is to blow it up and rebuild? Seems like the Angels are dangerously close to that point.
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12:28 |
: Problem with the Angels is that a rebuild is literally starting with nothing, and there’s not much to rebuild with
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12:28 |
: Hence all the Trout talks we heard a couple weeks ago
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12:30 |
: Next-closest team to needing to cash in on veterans is probably the Yankees, with Chapman and Gardner being the most obvious candidates
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12:31 |
: Hey August, I’m getting married this Friday and then going on a honeymoon so I won’t be back until the early part of June. When I get back from the honeymoon, who will be the division leaders, and what will be the biggest newsworthy thing that happens in baseball? Thanks August!
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12:32 |
: Division leaders will be Boston, Chicago, Texas, Washington, Chicago and the Dodgers, and Yu Darvish will be back! Congrats on becoming a married person!
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12:33 |
: When looking at the projections for a team’s ROS record, how are a team’s minor leaguers taken into consideration? Are they used in these projections?
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12:33 | : If they’re on the 40-man, then yeah. You can see the inputs for every team’s RoS projections by going to our depth charts: |
12:33 |
: What did you think of that 30 for 30?
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12:34 |
: Cleveland one? Didn’t watch it
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12:34 |
: We’ve said nice things about the Reds’ bullpen. Can you find nice things to say about the Atlanta baseball team’s anything?
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12:34 |
: Arodys Vizcaino is really good!
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12:34 |
: How is your Cleveland Lebrons going to do against the Toronto Trashbros?
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12:34 |
: win the hoop points, hopefully
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12:35 |
: Cervelli just signed a 3 year deal extension with Pittsburgh, 31 mil over 3 years. Thoughts? Seems fair for both teams, although Cervelli’s ISO is way down early on.
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12:35 |
: Offense doesn’t have to be great for baseball’s best (?) pitch framer to be worth some dollars
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12:36 |
: Is it possible Votto is just in IDGAF mode? I know you’re not supposed to assume professional athletes are capable of that but he doesn’t even look like Joey Votto anymore.
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12:36 |
: 135 wRC+ in y
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12:36 |
: May*
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12:36 |
: Could we get Pop up % on the fangraphs leaderboard?
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12:36 |
: IFFB% is similar
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12:36 |
: How long am I going to be suspended?
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12:36 |
: Heyman recently mentioned 8 games, which seems light
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12:37 |
: Holy Cody Anderson. Even with the Indians’ jam-packed schedule over the next several days, surely we can expect Francona has to send him down and bring up a replacement, right?
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12:38 |
: Cody Anderson didn’t look like a major league pitcher last year (ERA aside) and he hasn’t looked like a major league pitcher this year. I doubt he remains on the major league roster much longer
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12:38 |
: How come no one ever knows the exact date a player in AAA meets the team control requirement? You always hear ‘Player X won’t be called up until later this year so the team can retain a year of control’, but no one ever knows when that date is. Does it differ by player? How is it calculated? Thanks!
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12:39 |
: Would you like to say a few words for the dearly departed Fredi Gonzalez?
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12:39 |
: later dude
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12:39 |
: What would the NYY need to add to Chapman to pry DeLeon away from LAD?
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12:40 |
: The Yankees got him for Caleb Cotham and Rookie Davis
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12:40 |
: Jose De Leon is a top 25 prospect in baseball
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12:40 |
: I think that answers the question
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12:41 |
: A lot of people have been down on Avisail Garcia. But if you consider the spring and last month, he’s been…not terrible. ROS prediction for him?
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12:41 |
: FWIW, my RoS projection for guys almost never differs much from the RoS projections we host here on the site. It would need to be an exceptional circumstance for me to think the projections are that far off
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12:42 |
: so, like, league-average hitter, with almost no value anywhere else
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12:42 |
: respectfully request an article about how awesome Jose Altuve is.
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12:42 | : Eno wrote about his power stroke a few weeks back: |
12:43 | : also Mike Petriello recently wrote a really good thing about him: |
12:43 |
: Article idea ‘The Recent All Bust Team’, Beckham, Ackley, etc…
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12:44 |
: It’s a real bummer writing negative articles. That’s why I tried to find nice things to say about the Reds bullpen today (while also hopefully making it clear that no one in there is a part of the future)
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12:45 |
: Prince Fielder: how much of a rebound can be expected? Everyone’s saying he looks like burnt toast, but the stats don’t look *that* bad under the hood.
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12:47 |
: He’s had below league average power since coming to Texas, and it’s completely gone this year. He’s got a huge shift problem, and no longer has an elite walk rate. He might not be more than a league average hitter at this point, which for a slow DH, is almost worthless
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12:47 |
: He’s not far from Billy Butler territory, as crazy as it is to think
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12:47 |
: OFFICIAL MASCOT? And I’m slacking off at work so I’m technically being paid for it. WIN WIN
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12:47 |
: congrats
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12:47 |
: Could Ordor be charged with assault for that punch?
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12:48 |
: I always wonder about this. If that happened outside a bar in front of cops he would be. There are cops on the field. There’s probably some legal distinction I’m missing here, but I don’t know why he couldn’t/shouldn’t be
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12:48 |
: Which MLB player would have the most success playing basketball?
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12:49 |
: Chris Young had NBA talent, if I’m not mistaken. Probably too old to do much now, though
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12:50 |
: Is Nomar Mazara a lock for the AL ROY?
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12:50 |
: I’m not sure he’s even the favorite. Byung-ho Park has been better
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12:51 |
: The Mariner’s bullpen was amazing. Then it collapsed in the last few days. We can assume that their true talent level is somewhere in the middle, but with Furbush, Zych, and Benoit coming back soon-ish, could we have a pretty good M’s bullpen by the all-star break?
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12:51 |
: I don’t see why not
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12:51 |
: I’m a Twins fan, but I think Francisco Lindor is my new favorite player. Tell me something I don’t know about him.
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12:51 |
: He wanted to be a dentist if not for baseball
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12:51 |
: What were deGrom’s obvious comments? Maybe not so obvious lol
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12:51 |
: “I’m still not feeling very comfortable on the mound”
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12:52 |
: you listen to Coloring Book yet?
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12:52 |
: Yeah. Meh.
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12:53 |
: FYI Berrios got sent down this morning
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12:53 |
: well how about that! doesn’t change my opinion that he’s ready. Hope this doesn’t become another Buxton thing
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12:54 |
: Greater number: Braves wins or Cubs losses?
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12:54 |
: This is a fantastic question
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12:55 |
: Projections say 103 losses for Braves, 101 wins for Cubs
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12:55 |
: I kinda think the Cubs win more than 101
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12:55 |
: but I also kinda think the Braves lose more than 103………
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12:56 |
: Gonna say Braves wind up with like 108 and the Cubs 107?
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12:56 |
: God those numbers are so big
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12:56 |
: And somehow don’t seem crazy at all
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12:56 |
: What would Ian Desmond have to do to make the Hall of Fame?
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12:56 |
: be not Ian Desmond
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12:56 |
: Hey August what are the chances Mike Foltynewicz can outperform Corey Kluber over the next 3 seasons combined?
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12:56 |
: so low
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12:57 |
: Looking at Jhoulys Chacin… is this a shrewd move by the Angels? His metrics look pretty solid. Is it shocking to say be may be their second best pitcher right now besides Santiago?
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12:57 |
: says a lot more about the Angels than Jhoulys Chacin
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12:57 |
: Julio Terehan is over-rated. He is not an ace. Why do people think he will get ace-value in trades? Just because he’s the best pitcher on a lousy team, doesn’t mean he’ll get ace value in trades.
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12:57 |
: Reasonable people don’t think Julio Teheran is an ace
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12:57 |
: or maybe even a #2
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12:58 |
: he’s a solid, young, still relatively cheap pitcher
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12:58 |
: You’d think being his free agent walk year that Aybar would, I don’t know, at least try to be good? The guy looks like he’s never played baseball before.
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12:58 |
: i bet he is trying
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12:58 |
: is mookie betts still better than jackie bradley jr.?
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12:58 |
: yes
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12:59 |
: I thought watching the Reds Bullpen was depressing. Reading about the Reds bullpen is just as depressing. Is there any hope?
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12:59 |
: no
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12:59 |
: how’s that for depressing?
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12:59 |
: Would Arizona trade pollock goldsmith and archie for trout
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12:59 |
: if they can get Trout and keep Goldschmidt, absolutely
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1:00 |
: Guys who played in the MLB: Hee Seop Choi, Brian Bannister, Rickie Ledee, Bobby Jenks, Mark Bellhorn
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1:00 |
: totally OK with making this a recurring feature of my chat
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1:00 |
: old-but-still-somewhat-recent baseball names are some of the best nostalgias
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1:01 |
: Is Matt Joyce good enough to be a starter? Or is he better off the bench so as to not be over exposed?
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1:01 |
: he’s a platoon player
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1:01 |
: Trout for Pederson, Hernandez, De Leon, Holmes and Verdugo. Who says no?
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1:01 |
: The Angels
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1:02 |
: Clevinger was supposedly just scratched so he possibly on the way up for Anderson’s spot?
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1:02 |
: Saw that. Wouldn’t surprise me. Clevinger is the better pitcher
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1:03 |
: Doesn’t Gattis being the part time DH lead to less at bats?
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1:03 |
: not sure what this is referring to but Gattis is apparently ready to catch again
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1:05 |
: Your answer on Chapman was unfair and out-of-context. They got him for nothing because he was “potentially a criminal, almost certaily to-be-suspended and we have no idea for how long” Aroldis Chapman. At the deadline, he’s the same Aroldis Chapman that would have been available last year, except without the full year of control. At very minimum, I’d say the Giles trade is a closer comp, to a Chapman trade, not the Chapman trade.
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1:05 |
: This is a fair point. My bad. He’s still a closer on the last year of his deal with character concerns. You’re not getting a top-25 prospect for him.
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1:06 |
: Re Odor getting charges against him, wouldn’t Bautista have to press charges to incite? There’s probably something in the MLBPA about physical confrontations and a player’s right to press charges.
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1:06 |
: yeah this
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1:08 |
: Tell the truth: you just made up Layne Somsen so your Reds bullpen article would have a funny ending, right?
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1:08 |
: saw him pitch in real life yesterday! actual person!
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1:08 |
: RE: Guys who played in the MLB – fresh list next week
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1:08 |
: yesssss
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1:08 |
: can’t wait
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1:09 |
: OK, that’s all for this week. Stay tuned next week for another list of guys who once played in the MLB from E
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1:09 |
: thanks for chatting everyone
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1:09 |
: peace
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August used to cover the Indians for MLB and ohio.com, but now he's here and thinks writing these in the third person is weird. So you can reach me on Twitter @AugustFG_ or e-mail at august.fagerstrom@fangraphs.com.
Just FYI: the victim of an assault does not get to decide if charges are pressed; a prosecutor decides if someone is charged with an assault.