Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 1/24/22
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: Hey everyone, welcome to a Monday chat
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2:00 |
: Let’s talk about some baseball, plus I don’t know, some other stuff
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2:00 |
: Best guess, if/when a new CBA is finally agreed to, how many years of service will a team have over a player before free agency?
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2:00 |
: Six
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2:01 |
: I could see the Super 2 stuff getting eliminated, because it’s kind of absurd and owners keep acknowledging that in their proposals
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2:01 |
: What the Rays did to Wander, the ultra-Super-Two move, might have started happening to more stars otherwise
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2:01 |
: (they signed an extension obviously, so all is forgiven in that instance)
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2:02 |
: But I don’t see the owners budging below six and I don’t see the PA being willing to make enough sacrifices elsewhere to come up with a palatable deal with less than 6 years to FA
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2:02 |
: What do you think of Jordan Walker? He’s only 19 and has some crazy exit velocities.
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2:02 |
: Love him
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2:03 |
: Don’t know that much about him, because yeah, he’s only 19 and hasn’t played above Hi-A, but dude can mash. I’d be marginally worried about the strikeout rate but doing that well at his age and level is a HUGE plus as far as I’m concerned
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2:03 |
: and the power seems very real
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2:03 |
: I recently listened to “The Rumor” podcast. One thing that came up during it that surprised me was that one of the podcasters attended an Orioles tryout in what sounded like the early 90s. Do teams still actually do such things? If so, do they ever actually find players this way?
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2:03 |
: I don’t think teams actually still do such things, though I remember some NFL teams having punter/kicker tryouts at some point in my adult life
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2:04 |
: I’ve been meaning to listen to it ever since I heard the EW episode about it
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2:04 |
: Randomly re-watched The Last Dance this weekend and remembered that Tito Francona was MJ’s skipper at AA, where MJ batted .200 with 50 RBIs as a 31 y.o. who hadn’t swung a bat in about 14 years. Francona in the doc says that if they gave MJ about 1500 MiLB ABs, he would have been big league ready. Do you buy it?
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2:04 |
: No
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2:04 |
: I could say more but uh…. no
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2:04 |
: It’s very impressive and all, but no
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2:04 |
: When reading about the Rays Montreal gambit, I noticed that such a thing would have to be approved by the MLBPA. Does MLB need signoff from the MLBPA on any expansion? Or just this because it’s a weird situation? Or maybe because Canada?
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2:05 |
: I don’t know the answer to this, so I’m just selecting it here to say that hey this is a good question that I’m curious about
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2:05 |
: But uh…. I haven’t done the research. I’ll do some poking around
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2:05 |
: Are you planning on reprising your “Mid-Tier Hitters I Like” article during Prospect Week 2022? I really enjoyed it last year!
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2:05 |
: Thank you!
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2:05 |
: And yes, I’m going to be reprising it, and I’ve been tinkering with more things I could use in it
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2:07 |
: I was actually pretty pleased with my success ratio last year, looking back on it
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2:07 |
: I had some misses (Hudson Potts was probably the worst of them)
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2:07 |
: Oh and Omar Estevez was not ready for AAA
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2:08 |
: But I was happy with the thought process, hit some guys who I think deserved more shine, and had a lot of fun designing my models
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2:08 |
: From a pure fun differential standpoint where would you like to see Freddie Freeman sign?
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2:08 |
: The Marlins
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2:09 |
: I’d love to see him come back to the Atlanta suburbs 10 times a year in a different jersey for a bad team and just crush the Braves…. while the Braves continue to excel otherwise
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2:09 |
: I mean, the actual answer is just Atlanta!
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2:10 |
: He should be a career Brave, the team has a ton of fun players, why not keep going?
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2:10 |
: Kyle Tucker or Cedrick Mullins?
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2:10 |
: Great question!
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2:10 |
: I like that they are pretty close
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2:10 |
: I’m a big Tucker guy, so I’ll say Tucker
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2:12 |
: Mullins improved in so many different facets in ’21 that some part of my brain just doesn’t want to accept that this is the new normal
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2:12 |
: If players accumulate any more service time than say, Oniell Cruz last year, that should count as a full year. I feel that that is a happy medium for the two sides. Enough incentive to have your best players on the opening day roster but teams can still call up guys for a few series at the end of the year to get them some PA/IPs and not have it count as them playing all year. Thoughts?
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2:12 |
: Agree!
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2:13 |
: You can do something around the September roster expansion and exemptions
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2:13 |
: But you shouldn’t get an advantage from calling someone up in May instead of April
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2:13 |
: Are there any defensive metrics that take into the different surface areas of coverage for outfielders? Like is their a positive positional adjustment for playing CF in Comerica or a negative adjustment for only having to cover LF at Fenway?
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2:14 |
: The best option for this would probably be Statcast’s Outs Above Average, but it’s my understanding that all of the major outfield defense ones do control for that
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2:14 |
: I understand the OAA methodology best, and it takes distance to cover, time to cover distance, and walls into account
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2:14 |
: So it actually looks at how far you’d have to run to catch a given ball
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2:14 |
: The outfielders who play small parks are just going to have easier chances on average, so they’ll get less credit
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2:14 |
: What are the chances the Angels make Ohtani a full time hitter taking the pitching away? Thanks!
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2:15 |
: Uh
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2:15 |
: It’s like 5%
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2:15 |
: and it involves a catastrophic arm injury
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2:15 |
: He’s probably the best pitcher on the team (depending on Thor’s recovery)
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2:16 |
: I was super intrigued by how you calculated spin axis for that Luke Weaver article today. Any way you can share the formula/way to do that for the rest of us? I think it could be a good way measure to SSW for the public.
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2:16 |
: Oh yeah it’s super easy. You just take the arctangent of the pitch’s movement
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2:17 |
: So like, this will just calculate the ‘observed’ axis
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2:17 |
: Like Statcast reports
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2:17 |
: But here’s my awful formula for it in Excel
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: =180-(ATAN(AC2/AB2))*180/PI()
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: AC2 is VMov, AB2 is HMov
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2:18 |
: I said ‘SOH CAH TOA’ out loud for the first time in decades while writing that article
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2:18 |
: How do you personally watch baseball? I’ve found myself watching a game with Baseball Savant open or going there when something catches my eye. Is it a stream of consciousness thing where you think “Hey I wonder about ___” and then look it up?
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2:18 |
: Very stream of consciousness unless I’m watching a gamer
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2:18 |
: watching baseball is one of my favorite things to do, which is how I got into this job in the first place
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2:19 |
: So usually when I watch I like to listen to the announcers, watch the game, and whenever I have a question about what just happened, I’ll pull up the Savant gamefeed
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2:19 |
: Re: OF Defensive statistics; Does OOA (or any other defensive metric) have any penalty for batted balls not caught? And if so, would that at all be weighted towards outfield dimension?
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2:19 |
: They all do!
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2:19 |
: So for every batted ball chance, they figure out how likely you were to catch it
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: (that’s the secret sauce in them that’s hard to do)
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2:19 |
: Then let’s say it’s a 33% chance
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2:19 |
: If you miss it, they dock you 33% of an out
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2:19 |
: If you catch it, you get 67% of an out credit
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2:19 |
: arctangents are for lovers.
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2:20 |
: Thoughts on the reports that the Royals are considering shifting Bobby Witt to 3rd to allow Lopez to stay at short? Obviously Lopez’s defense is fantastic, but it sort of feels like a mistake to not at least let Witt get a chance to stick there.
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2:20 |
: I think I’m okay with what they’re doing, but boy it feels strange to move your solid shortstop prospect off of shortstop
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2:21 |
: Like… Lopez won’t be there forever, Bogaerts came up at third and moved to short and was just fine, etc.
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2:21 |
: But it’s just so weird!
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2:22 |
: Do you buy Tyler O’Neill as a 130+ wRC+ hitter? Not a ton of comps for a guy with his barrel rate, max EV, whiff/K rate, and sprint speed.
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2:22 |
: Odds that TON goes 40-40 next year? what about 30-30?
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2:22 |
: The Pillar of Meat is getting a lot of love (both among Cards fans and fantasy people I talk to), and I am into it
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2:23 |
: Do I buy him as a 130 wRC+ hitter? If you set the line at 120 I’d take the over
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2:23 |
: So good market!
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2:23 |
: I think I’ll take the under but quite close
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2:23 |
: As for a 40/40 or 30/30 season, I don’t think he gets there on the steals
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2:24 |
: He’s fast as hell but that’s a LOT of steals for someone with a 30% strikeout rate who also hits bombs
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2:24 |
: 40 homers before 30 steals, in other words
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2:24 |
: Do you think Spring Training will start on time? Will any regular season games will be missed?
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2:25 |
: I do not think ST will start on time, but I also don’t think any regular season games will be missed
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2:25 |
: I’ve been too optimistic so far, and maybe I still am, but I don’t think the owners are as unified as we normally think they are
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2:26 |
: I think the leverage that a lot of teams took out to make expansions and build out non-baseball revenue really bit them in the butt given the pandemic
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2:26 |
: I feel pretty certain the Yankees are going to play Urshela as a full time SS next year. Tell me I’m wrong.
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2:26 |
: I mean, they COULD. But I think it’s far more likely, even if they sign neither of Correa or Story, that they get Jose Iglesias or something
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2:27 |
: When is prospects week, Ben?
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2:27 |
: I actually have no idea
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2:27 |
: Good question for Kevin or Eric
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2:27 |
: Have you attempted to put numbers on the various moving parts in the CBA negotiations? I.e. raising the luxury tax by $x is worth $y to the players; an international draft costs the players $z (accounting for the substitution effect on free agents); expanding the playoffs brings in $a in additional revenue but costs players $b in disincentivizing competition?
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: Basically no
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2:27 |
: I probably should
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2:27 |
: Sounds like a good article
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2:28 |
: Let me throw another name out to compare with Tucker, Teoscar Hernandez or Tucker?
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2:29 |
: I’ll take Tucker, I feel like Teoscar’s strikeout rate means that he has to REALLY shove in every other category to keep up with Tucker
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2:30 |
: That’s not to say he can’t. But if you’re looking for a bunch of value over many years (which is kind of what this question boils down to), I like the stability of Tucker quite a bit
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2:30 |
: Shouldn’t the Phillies be in on Correa when the lockout is over? I haven’t heard him linked to them
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2:30 |
: Yes
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2:30 |
: I did some offseason shopping lists pre-lockout and had shortstop as their priority
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2:30 |
: I dunno what the heck they’re doing
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2:31 |
: The Rangers have an interesting choice on how to line up their IF defensively this year. Part of me thinks that Seager 3B, IKF SS, and Semien 2B is optimal, but you also have to think that Seager signed that big contract expecting to play short. Thoughts?
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2:31 |
: Iiiiiinteresting
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2:31 |
: I mean, IKF didn’t grade out particularly well defensively at short
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2:31 |
: particularly by OAA
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2:32 |
: I think Semien 2B is a lock
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2:32 |
: I think I’d be pretty indifferent in terms of value to the club between Seager SS/DH and IKF 3b/SS
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2:32 |
: and Seager 3b IKF SS
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2:32 |
: So at that point it comes down to what makes your team happiest, and yeah, thath probably means Seager plays short
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2:33 |
: Ben, how is it possible that you are turning out this many quality articles at this quick of pace? Are you using performance enhancers?
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2:33 |
: Word steroids
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2:33 |
: Nah, the real key is having a)a ton of interesting coworkers whose articles you can coast off of b)editors who suggest good topics
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2:34 |
: What percentage chance is there currently of Jeremy Pena starting the year as the Astros SS?
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2:34 |
: 85%
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2:34 |
: And trending upwards!
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2:34 |
: Any thoughts on Jeremy Pena?
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2:34 |
: I love him
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2:35 |
: I don’t see why in the world you wouldn’t give him a shot
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2:35 |
: he’s 24, he looked like he belonged in AAA, just give it a try!
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: I say this with love as a die hard Dodger fan who saw pretty much every defensive inning that Seager has played at SS. He’s a 40 glove SS with a 45-50 arm since TJ. I have to believe IKF is a better defensive option.
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2:35 |
: That doesn’t sound like a great 3b either!
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2:36 |
: And IKF is certifiably premium at 3b
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2:36 |
: So my thinking was that surrounding a below-average SS with two plus defenders might beat having a below-average 3b, average-ish ss, plus 2b
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2:36 |
: But who knows
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: SS get more chances
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2:37 |
: It is definitely amusing that the Rangers signed two of the top three shortstops and we still have no clue who will play the position for htem
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2:37 |
: Curious how you see the TOR catching situation playing out. Do they trade Kirk? What might he bring in return?
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2:37 |
: I think they’ll end up trading Jansen and McGuire for blah value over the next two years, and end up with a Moreno starter, Kirk DH/backup situation
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2:38 |
: My thinking is basically this: the Jays should have a bias towards just keeping the best two overall players among the 4 catching options
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2:38 |
: None of them has enough juice to drive a huge return (with the exception of Moreno I think)
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2:39 |
: So figure out the two you like the most, and trade the others
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2:39 |
: For me, that’s Moreno (my prospect crush who is now the world’s prospect crush) and Kirk
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2:40 |
: Rays have Jonathan Aranda, Curtis Mead, and Austin Shenton as 1B options for ’23. Which of these players could supplant Ji-Man Choi at 1B?
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2:41 |
: I don’t know much about Shenton
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: I suppose that implies I know a lot about the others, haha
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2:41 |
: My model likes Aranda! It’s not the best model in the world, but that’s I think a good sign. He plus Mead could make for an interesting platoon at first
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2:41 |
: So that’d be my vote
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2:42 |
: Do you think a metric like Stuff+, which evaluates pitches based on velocity and movement, is correct?
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2:42 |
: I haven’t dug into the nuts and bolts that underlie Stuff+ enough to take a strong stance. I do think that the idea behind it — quantifying stuff through measurable data — has merit
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2:43 |
: Driveline also has a stat called Stuff+, I think
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2:43 |
: wonderfully generic name, etc.
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: And they had an interesting blog post last year about pitchers who have reliably over- and under-performed it
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2:43 |
: Kyle Hendricks is the head of the class there, obviously
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2:43 |
: Since he throws a college fastball and gets big league results
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2:44 |
: What makes you say Jansen has blah value?
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2:45 |
: I just don’t see a team shelling out for an arb-eligible catcher who hasn’t really handled a full year’s workload
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2:45 |
: I think he’s a nice player, I’m just looking for comparables in trade and not finding any obvious ones
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2:45 |
: jays need some bullpen help, thoughts on a kimbrel for McGuire trade?
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2:46 |
: MATT. DAMON.
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2:47 |
: I mean…. I guess that trade would be fine?
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2:47 |
: I like Kimbrel!
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: I kind of thought the Sox would be hunting bigger game in trade
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2:47 |
: But if Toronto eats his entire salary, seems like both teams get somethin they want
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2:47 |
on every point to determine if a shot is in or out (with a human voice saying “out” if it is out). Now there is virtually no argument on line calls because…who will the player argue with? A computer? It has literally changed how one watches tennis since there is none of that crazy drama with out calls, player challenges, etc. The ball is either in or out. I am encourage after watching the tennis that this could be what happens with robot umps. It is either a ball or strike, that’s it. Thoughts?
: Ben. I don’t know if you watch tennis, but the AO is using their Hawkeye system |
2:47 |
: I love tennis!
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2:48 |
: I kind of suck at actually playing it, but I watch a ton
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2:49 |
: I think it works a lot better for tennis than baseball, but my issue with the auto strike zone has never been whether players would argue with it
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2:49 |
: I do think it would be good at that, to be clear
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2:50 |
: I know that there are stories of people arguing with the umpires even with Trackman up, but nah
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2:50 |
: Over time they’d stop saying anything about it
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2:50 |
: It does work better in tennis where it’s a comparably small part of the game, I think
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2:50 |
: Do any teams have better playoff chances with a shorter season or is it simply underdogs gain odds and favorites lose odds?
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2:50 |
: It’s basically just th at
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2:51 |
: Yeah was thinking whole salary, but Kimbrel is a little tricky to trade, bc it’s only contenders that want an expensive closer, and they don’t give up MLB contributors that also-contending CHW wants unless they have excess at a position like Toronto at C
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2:51 |
: Yeah I am more into it the more I think about it
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2:51 |
: It kind of makes sense that they n eed to target surplus somewhere
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2:51 |
: How do you think Carlson does this year. He seems like he has the basics down pretty nicely and could really put it all together. Cards outfield looks really well set up
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2:51 |
: Couldn’t be any more hyped about him
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2:53 |
: I dunno if he’s going to be a breakout type in 2022 but I was very encouraged by how quickly he figured it out in the majors
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2:54 |
: And I think that the Cards outfield is one of the best groups in the NL, which is kinda weird to say given how recently it seemed awful
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2:54 |
: Ben, appreciated your views on why you’re not voting for HOF. On a sort of related note, if Scott Rolen goes into the Hall, this year or soon, do you think the Cardinals would retire his number and build a statue outside Busch Stadium for him? Thanks!
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2:54 |
: That was Ben Lindbergh
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2:54 |
: I am not a BBWAA member, in fact
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2:54 |
: Though I appreciate the bind he felt he was in
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2:55 |
: As to a statue outside Busch… I think they would do it
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2:55 |
: There are enough statues out there that a Hall of Famer who won a ring on the team should get one
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2:55 |
: Sorry, man! Too many Bens. My bad!
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2:55 |
: No worries at all
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2:55 |
: We are legion
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2:55 |
: Dominic Smith: will he get another chance if there’s a DH or is he done in NYM?
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2:55 |
: I’m leaning towards done
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2:56 |
: Jose Barrero going to start for CIN this year or do they keep using Kyle Farmer?
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2:56 |
: I think they are going to keep using Kyle Farmer and I’m going to keep wondering why
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2:57 |
: Barrero deserves a shot imo
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2:58 |
: Farmer is good too!
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2:58 |
: But I think they can use him as more of a utility type and try to get Barrero established at short
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2:58 |
: Thoughts on combining a tennis style Hawkeye camera with an umpire? Hawkeye should be able to nail the “over the plate” aspect of the pitch, while the umpire can focus more on whether the pitch was in the zone vertically (which is harder to nail with Hawkeye).
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2:59 |
: My understanding is that Hawkeye doesn’t have a huge problem with that assuming decent strike zone definitions, which they’ve been getting better at snapping. The bigger problem seems to be that it sometimes errors out on pitches right down the middle
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2:59 |
: Ben, appreciated your willingness to both play and excel at many different positions for the ’06 – ’14 Tampa Bay Rays. You had some seasons that we’re borderline MVP worthy and deserved more credit at the time.
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2:59 |
: I also wrote Poor Richard’s Almanac and discovered electricty
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2:59 |
: I have range!
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3:00 |
: If you got beaned by a big league fastball how long would it take you to recover? I would simply cease existing.
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3:00 |
: Uh yeah, I’d retire forever after one hit
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3:00 |
: one hit by pitch, rather
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3:00 |
: My recovery is not what it used to be an it was never particularly good lol
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3:00 |
: Could you make a playoff team with only 17 year olds on your team if you could pick the best of the best from the last 30 years or would the talent with zero experience just not he ready?
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3:00 |
: I don’t think they would, and I don’t think it would be close
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3:00 |
: 17 is REALLY young
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3:00 |
: if you said 20-year-olds
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3:01 |
: I think I’d take the 20-year-olds easily
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3:01 |
: but 17?
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3:01 |
: yikes
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3:01 |
: who is the best 17-year-old hitter in history?
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3:01 |
: And are they even a league average bat?
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3:02 |
: For an auto strike zone, would this idea work? Use lasers around the plate that will pick up the ball crossing the plate. For strike zones on individual players, have them sized up by an MLB official to properly measure their height and measure where their zone is.
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3:02 |
: I don’t think they actually need that. The Hawkeye cameras work really well for pinpointing where the ball crosses the plate
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3:03 |
: I do think that some changes to the rulebook definition of the strike zone would be necessary
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3:03 |
: a)I think it would need to become 2d
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3:03 |
: b)I think they might want to look into how they define the top and bottom
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3:03 |
: I’ve done some looking into exactly how that works and it’s basically a snap when they come ready to hit?
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3:03 |
: So not every 6’1″ hitter has the same zone, etc.
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3:04 |
: Your 20 year old starting outfield would be Soto, Harper, Trout. Yeah you’d be fine. Pitching would be the problem. 20 year old starters are not so common.
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3:04 |
: Yeah, I’d have A Rod too
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3:04 |
: I just think that team would be dominant offensively to the point where I’d just put up a touchdown often enough that pitching wouldn’t matter too much
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3:04 |
: will we ever see another utility player like Jose Oquendo? One who can play all 9 positions?
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3:05 |
: Eh…. I think that there are players like that today, who could do it in a pinch
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3:05 |
: Isiah Kiner-Falefa became a catcher because the team needed him to, and won a gold glove at third
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3:05 |
: Kyle Farmer!
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3:05 |
: Andrew Romine did it, though Oquendo is a different class of player, you know?
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3:06 |
: I guess my point is that we probably won’t see it taken to quite the gimmicky extreme that it was with Oquendo
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3:06 |
: But heck, Gavin Lux started at six positions last year (he didn’t catch or play first base)
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3:06 |
: Is the spin axis in the baseball savant csv file the one observed by Hawkeye?
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3:07 |
: Sure seems like it
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3:07 |
: Given that it doesn’t exist before 2020
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3:07 |
: (that column)
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3:07 |
: What do you think Don Smith gets in a trade, assuming no cash is exchanged?
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3:07 |
: Dom Smith got MVP votes the year before last, and was trending upward each year until 2021. He seems to be a great team player, willing to fill whatever role the team needs, and there are always injuries. I would hate to see the Mets trade him just because they don’t see where he fits, especially while his value is down. I can just imagine Alonso getting hurt and a not-ready-for-primetime Baty or Alonso getting thrown into the fire for a couple of months…
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3:07 |
: This is a really interesting conundrum for the Mets, I agree
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3:07 |
: I don’t care so much about the MVP votes in 2020, to be honest, but he did look really good that year
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3:08 |
: I’m just really skeptical of his power, basicall
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3:09 |
: Aside from popping a crazy barrel rate in 2020, he just isn’t a bopper, and that limits his value given that he’s pretty close to 1b-only
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3:09 |
: I could see him getting a bit of run at DH/backup 1b/backup LF, but between him and Cano and Davis, there are a lot of bodies for not that many at-bats
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3:10 |
: So I think they might opt for a more flexible roster spot. At theh very least, I think they should trade one of those three?
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3:10 |
: Thoughts on what the Marlins have done? Is Wendle, Stallings, and Garcia enough for them to compete?
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3:10 |
: My opinion: no
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3:11 |
: I like Avi a lot
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3:11 |
: I like Wendle okay
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3:11 |
: They’re still playing some players who don’t seem ready for prime time to me, and their offense BADLY needs a star
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3:12 |
: Shouldn’t a team with good offense but wholes in their offense and pitching fix the holes in offense first, assuming the upgrade amount is equal since you also get more at bats for your best hitters by lowering the out made by your weaker hitters and even the worse pitching staff has a chance at a combined shutout
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3:12 |
: If baseball were played on a spreadsheet, I think this would be a no-brainer
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3:13 |
: Like you said, there’s synergy to improving your bad hitting spots so that your better hitters get more ABs
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3:14 |
: In practice I think it’s not the case, because there’s kind of an opposite effect in pitching where if your pitching is bad your staff gets overworked
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3:14 |
: and then people are worse, etc
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3:14 |
: Also, this is more context-dependent, but it’s generally easier to improve a bad unit than a good one
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3:14 |
: That comes down to which players are available when, though
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3:15 |
: I guess in the end I’d say I’d prefer to improve my pitching a bit, but that I wouldn’t be dogmatic about it. If the best move is to continue to have a bad staff but to just outscore people, then do it
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3:15 |
: There’s no ‘oh we HAVE to improve this spot’ in baseball
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3:16 |
: Are you familiar with the 90’s Mariners when they played in the Kingdome? They put up touchdowns all the time and lost. See also Orioles.
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3:16 |
: The 90’s era Mariners had to improve their pitching
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3:16 |
: Do you think hiring DH in NL is a good thing?
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3:17 |
: I do. I think that the game is more exciting on average when there are DH’s
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3:17 |
: is it possible teams already have back channel deals with Free Agents or perhaps trades?
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3:17 |
: Free agents? No
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3:17 |
: I don’t think teams could be sure that no leak would get out
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3:17 |
: and it would look quite bad were it to come out, and the players might be incentivized to leak, and so on
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3:17 |
: Trade talks between two GM’s? I could see that
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3:18 |
: Even in his dreadful first two samples (wRC+ of 74 & 83), Dom Smith put up an ISO of .196 & .198. In 2019 & 2020 it was .243 & .299. So, I can’t argue with the advanced stats that don’t like him, but he actually always demonstrated decent power before last year.
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3:18 |
: Yeah, he has a career .189 ISO, which is like slightly above average
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3:18 |
: Projected to be around average next year, it appears
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3:19 |
: But ‘slightly above average iso’ is not really something I’m interested in for a guy who strikes out more often than average, walks less often than average, and plays first base
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3:19 |
: I think it’d be cool if he broke out… but I understand why the Mets wouldn’t want to wait on him
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3:20 |
: Robots calling strikes and balls. Framing will be a lost ability? And have you think about a pitcher/batter that would benefit the most with the robots?
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3:20 |
: Yeah, framing would die. I think it would really depend on the exact way they implement it, but if they just keep the strike zone as it is, people with steeply vertical breaking pitches would be the biggest beneficiaries
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3:20 |
: so like, Glasnow?
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3:21 |
: If the owners get their wish on international drafts or even a universal draft, what on-the-field implications might it have? Would we see players move faster? Or is it just a cost-saving measure for the owners?
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3:21 |
: Cost-saving
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3:21 |
: Who’s your favorite DH to watch these days?
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3:21 |
: Shohei
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3:21 |
: But if we’re not counting him, I enjoy the stylings of J.D. Martinez
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3:22 |
: and obviously Yordan Alvarez
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3:22 |
: Yordan is probably the most underrated player in baseball
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3:22 |
: he’s got a 4-5 WAR projection and people think he’s some platoon bat
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3:23 |
: Assuming this is part of Houston’s internal decision-making process: would you prioritize Tucker/Alvarez extensions over a monster Correa contract?
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3:23 |
: I wo8uld
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3:23 |
: What’s the point in having Pena if you’re not gonna play him at short? And I’m just quite high on the core they have even without Correa
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3:23 |
: Alright everyone, great chat today, but I’m still stretching out my typing fingers (and answering brain) after the chat offseason, so I’m gonna call it a day here
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3:24 |
: Thanks so much for chatting, and next time I would like to talk chili oil, because I’ve been making a good homemade version lately but I want to hear other ways to do it.
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3:24 |
: Have a great week, and I’ll talk to you soon!
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Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.
That hypothetical team of 20-year-olds would also include Acuña, Machado, and Andruw Jones. On the pitching side, you’d have Kershaw, King Felix, Bumgarner, and Greinke. If you extended the time frame back a little, you could have otherworldly Doc Gooden.
(Now I’m curious how this group would do against the all-40+ team.)
Hard to make a case that any 17 year old would ever be more than a league average hitter. Even the guys that were wildly successful as teenagers (A-rod, Griffey Jr.) weren’t elite in their first 200 or so AB. The 40 year old team (Bonds, Mays, Wagner) would destroy.
The hitters will speak for themselves with a lineup of HOFers going 12 deep.
Your all 20y pitching staff would feature:
Doc Gooden
Bert Blyleven
Bob Feller
Fernando
Milt Pappas
with Jose Fernandez, King Felix, Dennis Eckersley, CC Sabathia, and Hal Newhouser ready to pitch in relief (relief of who you may ask? not sure cause that’s an all killer no filler rotation and I dare you to take the ball away from 20y Bob Feller)