Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 1/18/17
2:38 |
: I THOUGHT TODAY WAS TUESDAY!
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2:38 |
: How does the Jays offseason look after the Jose Bautista signing?
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2:38 |
: Decent, not specatular.
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2:38 |
: How much fun is it to check out TalkingChop and see so many people adamantly fight against the validity of sabermetrics. We have some heated Matt Kemp discussions going on if you want a “fun” read
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2:39 |
: I’ve been in some of those. I already flamed that guy with the weird metaphysical post.
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2:39 |
: Over/under on number of strokes you expect to have tonight
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2:39 |
: Just 1.
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2:39 |
: ZiPS has Jerad Eickhoff as the Phillies’ top starter. What are the odds he actually finishes as their top starter, and if he does, is it more likely that he had an awesome year or that everyone else was mediocre at best?
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2:39 |
: I’d have to look it up, but when fixed, it’s NOla anyway.
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2:39 |
: Seems like the 2017 production by Bautista would have to fall into a pretty slim window for the Jays and Bautista to both pick up the option. Any guesses at what that window is? Or am I totally off base here
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2:40 |
: I think it’s more of a face-saver for Bautista than anything.
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2:40 |
: It’s like a QO without the compensation.
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2:40 |
: Hate to be asking this due to the circumstances, but now with the news of Jake Diekman out does a trade of Profar to SD for one of their lefty RPs make sense? (Hand, Buchter, etc)
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2:40 |
: Seems a little short for Profar
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2:40 |
: Even given that he doesn’t have the trade value he used to.
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2:41 |
: Bautista too has attendance bonuses. Is this going to be a new thing? I bet we can come up with more enjoyable incentives than that.
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2:41 |
: These have happened a few times.
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2:41 |
: Do people realize that Bautista had easily the highest hard-hit rate of his career last year? How come he didn’t have more suitors?
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2:41 |
: Age and money.
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2:41 |
: We’re constantly told fans want more dingers and more scoring. Should the Giants move the fences in so they can match the ultra-popular clubs in hitters’ parks like Cinci, Milwaukee and Guaranteed Rate field?
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2:41 |
: I dunno, it seems that they don’t have a team suited for that.
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2:41 |
: Ketchup and mustard come in dispensers, why has no one invented liquid sauerkraut so that I can squeeze that on my hotdog? Oh, uhhh…do you like sauerkraut?
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2:41 |
: I do like sauerkraut.
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2:41 |
: I feel horseradish and malt vinegar should be the two main condiments. Or at least replace ketchup
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2:42 |
: Dan, what do you think of the phenomenon of “dabbing”?
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2:42 |
: Meh
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2:42 |
: I’m answering as many Qs as I can, I can only stay until 3:15
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2:43 |
: Do you think, as ZiPS does, that Cesar Hernandez’s defense last season was a total fluke, and will crater a full 15 runs next season? I get that defensive performance varies somewhat, but I’m amazed that ZiPS considers his improvement to be 100% fluke. I would have assumed that he’d at least gotten a little better at defense at that some of the improvement would stick.
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2:43 |
: It’s not 100% fluke. If it was 100% fluke, it would be negative.
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2:44 |
: I also reject the premise that we even know he was “really” +14 at 2B. He was 4 by DRS
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2:45 |
: Dan, would you drink a hot dog and bread smoothie, thinned out with milk?
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2:45 |
: Not voluntarily
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2:45 |
: Are ZiPS projections context-dependent in terms of the defense behind a pitcher? And (shameless Diamond Mind question) if that’s the case, aren’t DMB’s ZiPS-aided projections “double dipping” with respect to defensive help/harm a pitcher receives?
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2:45 |
: Diamond Mind effectively neutralizes stats going into the event table.
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2:46 |
: What’s your favorite children’s book?
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2:46 |
: I didn’t actually read children’s books.
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2:47 |
: I was reading Ken Follett and other thrillers of the type during kindergarten/1st grade and I did a book report in second grade on The Exorcist.
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2:49 |
: Cordero the rule 5 Padres shortstop. Does he roster all year and where does he rank in their prospect list ? Top 15 ?
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2:49 |
: You mean Cordoba I assume?
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2:49 |
: Out of top 15 I think
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2:50 |
: Dan, talk to me about Michael Fulmer. Was last year a fluke or do you think he becomes a solid #2 starting pitcher?
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2:50 |
: I think he’ll be a real #2
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2:50 |
: What do you think the Mets do with Jay Bruce?
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2:50 |
: Hope some overpays for him
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2:50 |
: Is there harm to a prospect’s development if a team brings him up early to serve as a bullpen stimulant? For example, would it be harmful for the Dodgers to consider using Alvarez as a flamethrowing reliever come post season?
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2:50 |
: I’ve never seen any real harm to this, but that’s anecdotal, I haven’t done a throough study
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2:51 |
: Some Giant fans are saying Ty Blach gets the #5 rotation slot ,carry all year ,wins 15 games with a 3.50 era at ATT park
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2:51 |
: That’s a little aggressive.
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2:52 |
: Baseball player that is most likely two small children disguised inside one uniform?
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2:52 |
: Sandoval. That’s why he occasionally loses weight – the smaller kid sometimes escapes and needs to be recaptured for the Pandochimera.
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2:52 |
: i read an article this week that stated that eric hosmer did great work improving his free agent stock in 2016. Do mainstream writers just not know how baseball works?
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2:52 |
: Some don’t.
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2:52 |
: Just saw the Zips projection for Michael Saunders. Given his solid projection, low cost, and team need, would you have liked to see him go to the O’s?
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2:52 |
: Yes
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2:53 |
: Where do you think Lourdes Gurriel Jr starts off this year? I tried to look him up on the site but it goes to his brothers page.
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2:54 |
: I’m of the opinion they start him at AA to get comfortable and then aggressively move him.
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2:54 |
: Happy National Dead Religion Day, celebrating the last living followers of the Defenders of the Good Old Days, The Will To Win and Past Better Than Present. May our future be blessed with open ballots and accountable journalists.
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2:54 |
: Adam Eaton: any chance you wanna dish on his ZIPS – he wasn’t in the CWS or WAS lists, due to trade timing
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2:54 |
: He’ll be on FG in a couple weeks. He’s still in my ESPN piece!
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2:54 |
: Dan, you’d have felt right at home during Travis Sawchik’s chat. Lots of Markakis questions.
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2:54 |
: I didn’t really mean for you guys to torment the poor guy!
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2:54 |
: David Dahl bad MF or just bad? ( i guess the third option is ‘meh’)
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2:55 |
: Dahl is too awesome for his parent franchise.
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2:55 |
: Who should Cleveland give up to upgrade their outfield with Markakis?
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2:55 |
: Modern analysis.
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2:55 |
: Without diving into your ZiPS, who has a better “next three years” starting tomorrow: Toles or Mallex Smith?
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2:55 |
: Mallex
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2:55 |
: Hot take on the Nintendo Switch?
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2:55 |
: Eh. Waiting and seeing how it turns out in practice when games are out.
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2:55 |
: Better hitter going forward. Schwarber or Benintendi?
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2:56 |
: Schwarber, but Benintendi the better overall player
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2:56 |
: People are asking Travis about Nick Markakis and he is politely informing them that your chat is on Wednesdays now.
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2:56 |
: You have just been hired to develop MLBTV’s first sitcom. It has to star a current MLB player. Who do you audition? Who gets the gig?
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2:56 |
: An Odd Couple type sitcom of Jon Papelbon and Craig Breslow
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2:57 |
: Is Tanaka the most underrated Top 25 pitchers in baseball?
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2:57 |
: I don’t know, I think he’s about rated now.
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2:57 |
: Is “Joey Bats” the worst nickname? Consider that he’s not even the best hitter named “Joey,” and he’s also not the best hitter named “Joey” who also wears #19.
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2:57 |
: Worst nickname is J-Hey Kid.
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2:57 |
: ZiPS, FanGraphs Depth Charts and Steamer all project nearly identical 2017 WAR for rookie outfielders Andrew Benintendi of Boston and Mitch Haniger of Seattle. Does the 3 1/2-year age difference explain the contrasting hype for each player?
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2:57 |
: Age is a big deal
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2:57 |
: Dan, please tell me the O’s won’t resign Trumbo.
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2:57 |
: He’s come down enough in price that they might actually re-sign him at a stupid pric.e
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2:58 |
: might actually *not* re-sign him at a supid price
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2:58 |
: Where are you Dan?
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2:58 |
: I was playing Hearthstone, MLK threw me off and today felt like Tuesday
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2:58 |
: What is the dividing line for the players on the current HOF ballot where you go from “I disagree with a vote for this player” to outright rage?
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2:58 |
: Let’s see, somewhere between Lee Smith and Jack Morris.
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2:58 |
: Let’s call it the Magglio Ordonez line.
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2:59 |
: Yangervis Solarte’s wife died late-season last year after a battle with cancer. I have to imagine that affected his performance throughout the year. I realize there’s no way ZiPS can account for that- Do you think expectations should be that he outperform ZiPS this year as a result?
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2:59 |
: I have no idea.
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2:59 |
: Have you played Dominion? You would probably like Dominion. It is a fun game.
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2:59 |
: I’d like to but I have no board game friends.
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2:59 |
: ‘Zorilla is a good nickname, but I feel like it’s a missed opportunity for the nickname “BenZo.” You know, ’cause he puts the the game to bed? Or he knocks out the competition? Or ’cause he never panics? Or… I dunno, he causes hallucinations? (I don’t actually know about drugs, maybe this is a bad nickname….never mind.)
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3:00 |
: Felix Hernandez bounce back a little this year? Back to 3.50/1.2 8+ k/9?
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3:00 |
: Somewhat, but he may just be Duke Felix now.
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3:00 |
: Havent seen anything about any Japanese signings this year. No one making the jump this year?
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3:00 |
: If there have been, I missed it
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3:00 |
: Was the move to Wednesday to try and separate you from all of the uneducated folks that still believe Markakis is good?
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3:00 |
: You can be smart enough to know the days of the week but not smart enough to reject the idea that Markakis is awesome
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3:00 |
: I imagine the Szymborski HOF rage meter goes “McGriff? OK”… “Kent? If you squint”…”Hoffman? Whatever”…”Wagner? That’s a stretch”…”Smith? WHAT THE F@#% IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!”
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3:00 |
: Do you have a projection for the newly signed Jose Miguel Fernandez?
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3:00 |
: Not yet
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3:00 |
: How long did it take to get ZiPS in working form?
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3:01 |
: A couple years. not that I worked straight on it for a couple years.
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3:01 |
: Travis had an article on “Uncertainty” Re: injuries and Thorasic outlet surgery. Given the ceiling, but also the uncertainty: Is Tyson Ross really a more attractive option at this point than Hammel for teams with rotation question marks?
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3:01 |
: If I’m a contender, I want Hammel, if I’m not, I want Ross
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3:01 |
: Why did you just order 500 toy whistles in the shape of basketballs?
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3:01 |
: All this back-to-back Dan and Dave stuff has me feeling like it’s the 1992 Olympics all over again. Does that mean you’re going to fail to qualify?
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3:01 |
: Since I showed up late, I think that is in fact true
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3:01 |
: Do you really want to receive notifications from Bed, Bath, and Beyond?
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3:01 |
: Are you really not going to open that Evite from Tina? She was the only one who stuck around to help split the check at your birthday dinner.
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3:02 |
: Who on the current HOF ballot ends up getting voted in before their eligibility expires?
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3:03 |
: I think the ones that don’t are Schilling, Walker, Sosa, Smith, Kent, McGriff, Sheffield, Wagner.
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3:03 |
: I thin kthe others get in.
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3:03 |
: I mean of the serious candidates.
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3:03 |
: Obviously I don’t think Melvin Mora could get in.
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3:03 |
: Am I crazy to look at the Phillies’ ZiPS and think they could actually be decent? Would they be a good team to add Mark Trumbo to play 1B?
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3:03 |
: They *could* be OK, but they’re not as far along in their rebuild as the record looks – they did have a 62-100 pythag.
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3:03 |
: So people are overrating them a bit, which isn’t their fault – the Phillies are doing the things they should be
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3:03 |
: Any idea how the new Braves stadium will play, park factors wise? Does ZiPS just assume its neutral until proven otherwise?
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3:04 |
: Yeah
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3:05 |
: I tried modeling stadium effects based on dimensions, altitude, climate, distribution of wind directions, and stadium orientation. it failed miserably.
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3:05 |
: Who has the worst farm system?
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3:05 |
: Angels
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3:05 |
: An actual farm has better prospects than the Angels.
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3:05 |
: If Twins hold firm on Dozier, should LAD be desperate for a plan B trade, or is standing pat a viable option? FWIW, the ZiPS forecast for Chris Taylor is one factor that has me leaning toward standing pat (since plan B’s such as Forsythe would seem to be tiny upgrades, if that).
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3:05 |
: If the Dodgers were desperate, they’d have closed the Dozier deal already.
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3:05 |
: Are teams just now opposed to giving any older player any kind of significant contract? In other words, could any 35+ year old player get anything beyond one year going forward, or is this like a new norm?
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3:05 |
: Players are going to have to be realistic.
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3:06 |
: Are the rumors true that FG will add DRA to all its pages alongside things like xFIP and SIERA?
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3:06 |
: You’d have to ask a Dave
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3:06 |
: Out of the teams that made the postseason in 2016, which of those teams do you predict won’t make the postseason in 2017?
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3:07 |
: I think last year’s AL wild cards fall short
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3:07 |
: How many MLB games do you attend per year?
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3:07 |
: I try to go to about 40.
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3:07 |
: I went to fewer last year, I messed up my back camping in April and it was sore for most of the summer.
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3:07 |
: Why do the Pirates depth chart projections have Willy Garcia pitching 30 innings in relief?
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3:07 |
: You’d have to ask the FG guys.
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3:07 |
: Did you ever go back to Europa Universalis IV? They keep adding quite a bit of depth.
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3:08 |
: CK2 and Stellaris tend to suck me in more because they’re a little quicker to just pick up and go
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3:08 |
: Will Mike Mussina ever make the hall of fame?
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3:08 |
: Yes
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3:08 |
: Here’s the question that will decide who will win the World Series in 2017: who won the 2016-2017 offseason (so far)?
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3:08 |
: White Sox
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3:08 |
: and no
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3:08 |
: they’re not winning the Series.
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3:08 |
: Why do people ask you about bizarre meat smoothies?
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3:08 |
: I’m not sure.
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3:08 |
: Which Pokémon would you pick to start with when you played Red/Blue?
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3:09 |
: Bulbasaur or GTFO
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3:09 |
: Can you dunk
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3:09 |
: No
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3:09 |
: I’m 5’11 with T-Rex arms. I couldn’t dunk when I was in better shape.
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3:09 |
: you have carte blanche to change the game; what do you do? shrink the strike zone? move in all fences 20 feet? replace extra innings with a home run derby?
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3:09 |
: 10 man pitching staffs.
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3:09 |
: Of course Hosmer improved his stock. He had over 100 RBIs for the first time in his career last year.
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3:09 |
: It’s not 1995 – the worst GMs today would be about average 20 years ago
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3:10 |
: Is a HOF with under 5 players just as bad or close to being as bad as a blank ballot?
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3:10 |
: It’s bad in thought, but not quite as bad in effect. At least you’re screwing over fewer guyus.
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3:10 |
: Would you agree with the assertion that ZiPS and Steamer usually spit out similar projections with the difference being that ZiPS is more aggressive and Steamer is more regressed? Just an observation I’ve had looking at the projections, wonder if that fits with your evaluation.
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3:10 |
: I haven’t noticed any real calibration difference.
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3:10 |
: Though sometimes there’s oddities – ZiPS likes almost every Cardinal position player better than Steamer for some reason
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3:11 |
: What is an acceptable mutually-beneficial contract for the O’s to give Trumbo now?
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3:11 |
: 1/18 and save face.
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3:11 |
: It’s hard to outright buy prospects, but could a team overpay for someone ($100m over five years for Chapman) and then flip to a team for a few elite prospects if they ate the entire $100m contract?
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3:11 |
: They could do something like this.
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3:11 |
: Why is Vlad Guerrero a consensus HoFer among the SABR crowd but Jim Edmonds lasted one year on the ballot? They’re almost the same player except Edmonds was the more valuable fielder.
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3:11 |
: Hey, I complained mercilessly about that.
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3:11 |
: You don’t hear talk about Edmonds right now because we already lost.
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3:12 |
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3:12 |
: They come out at the apportioned time.
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3:12 |
: How does Mussina get in and not Schilling? Cause he isn’t an ass hole?
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3:12 |
: Schilling ought to be in, of course, but Schilling isn’t winning friends among the marginal voters.
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3:12 |
: Horseradish? You Arby’s puppet
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3:12 |
: I said horseradish, not horsey sauce.
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3:13 |
: The actual grated stuff you get in a jar, not the mayo+horseradish concoction
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3:13 |
: Why is Gwent better than Hearthstone?
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3:13 |
: I’m not big on Gwent.
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3:13 |
: Shadowverse, on the other hand, is better than Hearthstone right now.
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3:13 |
: Though you have to get used to the very Japanime styl;e.
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3:13 |
: Bulbasaur? Way to take the cowards way out
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3:13 |
: Winning über alles.
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3:14 |
: Which FA has involuntarily retired but does not know it yet?
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3:14 |
: Bronson Arroyo
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3:14 |
: you must be rushed, your sarcasm detector is off today
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3:14 |
: Sorry, I’m trying to fit 75 minutes worth of questions into 45 minutes.
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3:15 |
: Which Ernest movie is the best? and why is it Scared Stupid?
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3:15 |
: Can there be a best Ernest movie?
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3:15 |
: True story: Ernest P. Worrell’s character is related to Todd Worrell.
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3:15 |
: Can we call the “begrudgingly going back to your old team for barely more than the QO” ‘The Bautista’ now? Used in a sentence:
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3:16 |
: I noticed Greg Holland wasn’t included with KC’s ZiPs, although that was his last team. Can you give me a projection for him, or wait until the final spreadsheet comes out?
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3:16 |
: I just forgot.
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3:16 |
: CKII is so confusing and hard to pick-up, EUIV seems downright simple compared to it. But then again I must be biased. Give it another look.
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3:16 |
: CKII, as long as you don’t start too aggressive with who you pick (like, say, going with HRE emperor), you have simple strategic choices at the start.
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3:16 |
: OK, gotta go!
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3:17 |
: Thanks for joing me everybody! Sorry we had to stuff the chat awkwardly. I
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3:17 |
: See you guys next week, I’m late!
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Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.
“‘Duke’ Felix” made me smile.