Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 11/9/15
11:57 |
: Monday: A Time for Chats.
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11:59 |
Is Billy Burns a reasonable comp for Boog Powell? |
11:59 |
: Naw, I think Burns is faster and has better baseball skills.
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11:59 |
All right, let’s just get this out right now. Bung-Ho Park. Go on, get the giggling out of your system, and let’s have a mature discussion of topical themes. |
11:59 |
: Wait, is this a Twins joke? I never promised not to make Twins jokes.
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11:59 |
One keeper spot left for next year. Who do you keep, Rendon or Springer? |
12:00 |
: While it would mostly depend on the rest of my time, I’d probably keep Rendon.
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12:00 |
: Even though I’d be asking for trouble expecting him to stay healthy!
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12:00 |
For the Mets assuming that they have dollars to spend but lack the right position players to spend it on, would it make sense to sign Price to a long-term deal and trade away one of their young controllable pitchers for a bat? Seems like they could reallocate dollars from hitting to pitching that way and maximize value. |
12:01 |
: I guess it could work, but to be honest, I don’t think they have those dollars to spend.
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12:01 |
So I was thinking about how challenges in Tennis work, with tennis players being able to challenge a call that a ball is in or out, and it’s reviewed. Do you think something will ever be used in baseball for called strikes/balls? |
12:01 |
: No, I think we’ll eventually just get to robots, as we should.
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12:02 |
Hi Dan. Can you please explain this conman idea that Price will land with the Cubs? I don’t see how they are going to have Lester making over 20/mil a year, Price making over 20/mil a year a soon Arrieta will cost over 20/mil a year. On top of all that they have all those arb cases coming up to players that wont be cheap….I just don’t see it, I could see them making a trade for Salazar or Carasco mind you. Basically do they really have the current and future payroll for such? |
12:02 |
: I think they do. They’re in an incredibly large market, one that’s starving for success. Hey, look how much Vegas likely made getting Cubs fan suckered into 12-1 World Series championship odds at the start of the season.
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12:03 |
I’m assuming The Rays were forced to take Logan Morrison in order to get Brad Miller. Otherwise, this seems like Luke Scott 2.0. |
12:04 |
: Logan Morrison is like when you get a great deal on a house but you need to replace the furnace but you already factored in that into the cost of the house which was too good a deal to not get anyway.
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12:04 |
I am The Great Cornholio! I need TP for my Byung-Ho! Oh….sorry. |
12:04 |
: Ah. That’s a stretch, isn’t it?
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12:04 |
: I didn’t even seen the joke initially and I’m essentially a 10-year-old with the income of an adult.
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12:05 |
How does Heyward project over the next 5 years? 10 years? |
12:05 |
: In 5 years, Jason Heyward is projected to have completed the 2020 season. In 10 years, that figure is likely to be 2025.
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12:05 |
How good does Shields need to be this offseason to opt out into next year’s weak FA class? |
12:06 |
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12:06 |
Orioles blog Camden Chat had a piece today arguing the Orioles “must sign” Chris Davis or “fans will lose interest.” It’s okay though because swing-and-miss slugging 1B never turn into albatross contracts. |
12:06 |
: The Orioles are in an awkward position in which they can’t afford to lose Chris Davis but can’t afford to keep him.
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12:07 |
: I’ve written fairly extensively on this subject – the O’s essentially start the offseason as a team in the 72-74 win range based on the current roster, but already with a $90 million payroll baked into the cake.
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12:08 |
: So many of the minor leaguers that could plausibly have contributed in 2016 either had massive injury setbacks or just didn’t play all that well, so I’m not sure where the O’s get the wins to not start the season in the “Meh + a dice roll” tier.
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12:09 |
who would be a good match for a trevor plouffe trade now? |
12:09 |
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12:09 |
Talked to a friend about the possibility of Chris Davis going to Toronto…Boy, I would be afraid for the pitchers to face them if that happens |
12:10 |
No more beating around the bush Dan. Answer the hard-hitting questions. WHO SIGNS SKIP SCHUMAKER AND FOR HOW MUCH? |
12:10 |
: A team with some bad ideas for sure. Imagining who it will be ruins the surprise!
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12:10 |
If the strikezone was 100% robotic would you still have an umpire stand right behind the catcher, just so the pitcher wouldn’t be thrown off by his absence? (You’d still need an ump for plays at the plate but it doesn’t make sense for him to stand in his usual spot if he’s not calling balls/strikes) |
12:11 |
: You’d still have the initial check swing evaluations too
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12:11 |
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12:12 |
Who is your #1 prospect for next year? |
12:12 |
: Seager
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12:12 |
Do you subscribe to the theory that a robot future is inevitable? If so, do you worry that our future robot overlords will scour the web for all your past public opinions and decide to exterminate some and reward others? Hail Robonia! |
12:14 |
: Sure, but I’m not ashamed of my past opinions. I’ve always known that the internet has a long memory. At least my past opinions (and present and future) will just be jerkass stuff, I won’t have people making fun of me because I was upset about Halloween costumes and the dean didn’t give my graham crackers and apple juice and gently stroke my head while they fall asleep to whatever the hell five year olds watch today
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12:15 |
: I seem to have changed tense a few times there. And I became they at some point.
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12:15 |
Griffey is making his debut on the HoF ballot this year. Will he be a first-ballot HoFer? |
12:15 |
: Yes
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12:15 |
But robots wont have the personality of COWBOY JOE WEST and Angel Hernendez!!! |
12:15 |
: You never heard of the T-1000?
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12:15 |
You gotta jump on a good pun team name quickly. |
12:16 |
Cards need power bad. They missed out on Park and Davis doesn’t seem like a Cards style move…what do they do? |
12:16 |
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12:16 |
Is there w ZiPS schedule yet? |
12:16 |
: Not a schedule yet, but they’ll start to pop after thanksgiving as usual
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12:16 |
Way to brag about your income of an adult, jerkborski. |
12:16 |
: I said an adult, not a rich adult
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12:17 |
Now that the Pirates missed out on Park, see them trading for Lind? |
12:17 |
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12:17 |
If the Cubs earn an A for off-season transactions, it will be because they successfully… |
12:18 |
: …made off-season transactions that I felt put them in the tier for the highest evaluation among the MLB teams, based on their off-season transactions.
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12:18 |
Often hear that free agent pitchers like Greinke don’t want to play in a hitter’s park like Yankee Stadium. Considering its almost certainly his last contract before retirement, what does he care that his front-line numbers will look worse? Could this really make enough of a difference that he’d pass up a larger contract in order to stay in Dodger Stadium? |
12:18 |
: They care, everybody cares. I don’t think it’s usually a real factor except for extreme park situations.
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12:18 |
Do you see the Jays making any big signings? I mean Zimmermann/Cueto not Price/Grenkiw]e] |
12:18 |
: I think they’ll rightfully see value in following up from a successful 2015
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12:18 |
In terms of value (and not positional needs), who says no to something like Machado for Moncada/Devers/Eduardo? |
12:19 |
: I suspect the Orioles will categorically refuse to consider a Machado trade, even if they find themselves in a situation in which they need to do so.
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12:19 |
orioles should take mauer! |
12:20 |
: Are the Twins throwing in the time machine to enable the O’s to get the Joe Mauer that hit for average?
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12:20 |
% chance the Red Sox open 2016 with an outfield of Betts, JBJ, Castillo? |
12:20 |
: Pretty good, actually
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12:20 |
How much would Twins fans riot if they traded Mauer once/if they get Park? |
12:20 |
: Oh, they’d riot a ton and it would be hilariously entertaining to mock their stupidity.
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12:20 |
Realistically how far off are robot umps? |
12:21 |
MLB.TV succeeded because much of baseball’s retrograde leadership didn’t have their fingers in that pie. Replacing the umpires would involve said leadership being heavily involved
: A ways. |
12:22 |
I’m on board with Dipoto, and excited for what’s to come, but I can’t help but feel like he shot his wad by trading Miller (who seemed like his biggest trade asset) and didn’t get a terribly exciting return. Am I undervaluing Karns, overvaluing Miller, or maybe it was a pretty even trade and sometimes they just aren’t that exciting? |
12:22 |
: I don’t think it was an awful trade, but I’m not enthralled by the return for Miller.
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12:22 |
Unless I am missing something Logan Morrison is still in his arbitration years, so if the Mariners simply didn’t want him anymore they could just DFA him with no money lost. I’m guessing the Rays are using him as their safety net at 1B and will cut him if a better option materializes. |
12:22 |
: That’s my guess. LoMo needs to HitMo.
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12:23 |
When does the bidding for Eric Thames begin? |
12:23 |
: heh
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12:23 |
Pirates need to take advantage of McCutchen prime years and his team friendly contract for the next 3 years, can they tempt the A’s to trade a package of Gray/JReddick for Glasnow/Bell and Polanco? |
12:23 |
: Eh, I think Glasnow will be contributing in the majors very soon.
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12:23 |
Do the O’s wreck pitchers with big promise or are we just seeing a string of bad luck plus Arrieta breaking out? Kind of seems like they have massive turnover in pitching coaches, is this common around the league and if not could this play a part? |
12:23 |
: There is some bad luck there, I think.
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12:24 |
: And really, if other teams around baseball saw Arrieta becoming what he has, they’d have crushed a Feldman/Clevenger offer
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12:24 |
If you were a hotdog, and you were starving… would you eat yourself (on the condition that you had to call yourself a sandwich)? |
12:24 |
: No. Some things just are not done.
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12:25 |
How long does a “blow up the team and start over” rebuild take? Do teams tend to deny the grim reality of a non-contender situation for longer than they should out of fear of the fanbase, or just the length of time to rebuild? |
12:25 |
: Depends. There a are a lot of variables there
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12:25 |
Could Justin Masterson be a sneaky FA target for someone looking to upgrade the back end of their bullpen? |
12:25 |
: Maybe, but I’m cautiously pessimistic
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12:25 |
I can’t wait for Dan Roborski to be available to take out questions 24/7 when the new robot order takes over. |
12:25 |
: I would think I’d be one of the last baseball writers to replace – I would think my nerdery and weirdness would make it tricky to emulate exactly
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12:26 |
Who do you predict the Mets sign this offseason? I think Dave predicted Ian Desmond but I really can’t see them giving up the money and pick that he’ll cost. Especially with a couple decent SS prospects in the pipeline and Flores looking relatively solid and possessing several years of cost control. |
12:26 |
: I think they do next-to-nothing. Which, actually, would make this offseason a better one than the last one.
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12:26 |
Does Alex Gordon make more sense as a ~$20M/year signing than Chris Davis? Given how weak their pitching staff is, extra good defense seems like it’d yield more than extra dingers. |
12:26 |
: Arguably yes, but remember Gordon isn’t young either
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12:27 |
I think robot umps are an awful idea. I understand we want to get the call right, but this is just a damn game. I don’t want baseball to turn into the Jetsons where even the players are robots. |
12:27 |
: Umpires aren’t the game, they only exist because of a limitation in technology
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12:27 |
: Might as well argue that vaccines eliminated the magic of the crippling childhood roulette wheel.
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12:28 |
: Which incidentally, is probably a better argument against vaccines than the ones actually presented.
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12:28 |
: Strengthen the Szymborski herd.
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12:29 |
2016 as JJ Hardy bounceback year: unlikely or impossible? |
12:30 |
: Tough, but not impossible. I mean it’s encouraging one one end that it was likely more due to the various injuries rather than disappearance of baseball skills, but on the other hand, discouraging in that he’s at an age where injuries aren’t likely to magically go away
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12:30 |
Do the Angels have one of the more perplexing ways of going about their budget? “Go ahead and spend right up to the luxury tax but not a penny more.” Seems like with this FA class and the fact they have a large amount of money coming off this upcoming season, might be better to bite the bullet now and go over the tax instead of waiting until a weaker class next year |
12:30 |
: Hey, that’s more thinking than the Angels usually execute.
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12:30 |
Dylan Bundy shut down with forearm stiffness and is “day to day” in the AFL. No question, just sandess. |
12:31 |
: I’ve definitely got some sand somewhere about poor Bundy’s injuries.
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12:32 |
Does ZIPS have any special adjustment for projecting a guy like Mychal GIvens who was converted to pitcher from another position? |
12:32 |
: Not for hitters becoming pitchers, no.
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12:32 |
: It’s *quite* variable
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12:32 |
Are the Orioles at a place where they should just blow up the team? Machado will just decrease in value while they hold onto him and there’s a very low chance they’ll be competitive in the AL East in 2016/17. |
12:32 |
: I think they are. But they do not.
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12:32 |
Machado and Jones for Panda (Red Sox eat his contract), Bradley, E-Rod, Moncadat. Who says no? |
12:32 |
: Orioles.
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12:33 |
Is Mat Latos being undervalued? Dave predicts he’s gonna get 1 year $10 million. His peripherals are still solid and I don’t see any reason why we should expect him to have an ERA two runs worse than his FIP going forward… What am I missing? |
12:33 |
: I think he’ll get more than that, but there’ sa lot of uncertainty
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12:33 |
Minus 2015, why the high regards for Anthopoulos? The Jays have maybe a two year window if what’s left of their SP prospects pan out. |
12:33 |
: Minus 2015? That’s a bit like the old “Except for that Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the performance?” question.
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12:34 |
How much money would it take for you to never watch, hear about, or even talk about baseball ever again? A million? Hundred mil? Billion? |
12:34 |
: Probably more than a million. Well less than a hundred million.
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12:34 |
If the moon were a piece of pizza, would ya eat it? |
12:35 |
: Of course. I can’t eat enough moon pizza to affect tides.
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12:35 |
Jays already called takesbacksie on Eric Thames. |
12:35 |
2015 offseason was domianted by fake Mookie Betts trades. Who gets fake-traded the most in 2016? |
12:35 |
: Matt Harvey
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12:35 |
Reading a lot of Desmond to Mets.. I think it’s a bad idea.. Am I crazy for thinking that? |
12:35 |
: No
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12:35 |
Is this chat an AI program? |
12:35 |
: It would probably move quicker if it did
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12:35 |
HOW DARE YOU SAY THE METS LAST OFF SEASON WAS BAD. THEY GOT CUDDYER AND hahahah I’m sorry I can’t going. |
12:36 |
What are dreams, Dan? |
12:36 |
: All that we see or seem
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12:37 |
Who is the most underrated free agent out there in your eyes? |
12:37 |
: Possibly Gallardo
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12:37 |
Google now has machine learning-based template replies for inbox http://arstechnica.com/gadg… Seems like it’d be pretty easy to re-program this to auto-generate replies to Fangraphs chat questions. Just saying. |
12:37 |
If we have robot umps, should they be actual humanoid robots a la “Super Baseball 2020” for neo geo? |
12:38 |
: Yeah. That way players can still argue with them. Which would be hilarious, watching people futilely argue with a computer. Because THATS WHAT MY INBOX LOOKS LIKE WHEN PEOPLE GET MAD ABOUT ZIPS PROJECTIONS
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12:38 |
Polio = balls and strikes, that’s new one. |
12:38 |
: We still don’t have a vaccine for Joe West
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12:39 |
Where can I find a nice used car for less than $10,000? |
12:39 |
: Private seller? Also 1990.
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12:39 |
still don’t understand those who are reluctant to go with robot umpires — ships sailing the high seas have successfully transition from starlight navigation to gps with nary a complaint |
12:40 |
: You don’t see passengers storming airplanes and going TURN OFF THE AUTOPILOT WITH ITS CORRECTIONS, WE WANT HALF-INSANE HOBBYISTS WEARING WHITE SCARVES AND FUNNY 1910S GOGGLES
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12:40 |
Do the Braves do anything interesting this offseason? |
12:40 |
: Interesting probably. But no real 2016 moves I don’t think
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12:40 |
Should the Jays make a play for Votto? |
12:41 |
: That would actually be a lot of fun and I would in fact recommend th is.
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12:41 |
Bigger abomination in public : crocs or old school sweatpants with elastic bands around the ankles? |
12:41 |
: Sweatpants
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12:41 |
Machado for Lucas Sims, Max Fried, and Braxton Davidson, who says no? |
12:41 |
: Again, Orioles.
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12:42 |
In light of the Twins possibly displacing Joe Mauer, which player is the most “untradeable” right now? Not because they’re too good/bad, or are paid too much, but rather because it would be a nightmare for the organization. |
12:42 |
: Cabrera
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12:42 |
If you’re the Royals, do you try to sign Gordon and Zobrist or do you just move on? |
12:42 |
: I try to sign them.
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12:42 |
So Byung-ho Park picks up some of the power responsibilities for the Twins? Quick projection…25 dingers first year? |
12:43 |
: I’m not going to go that far. Remember, not only is KBO a huge hitters’ league but Park also played in a very small park
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12:43 |
Is the Presidential battle-tournament settled yet? I’m still not sure how any one could possibly have ever voted against Teddy Roosevelt…. |
12:43 |
: Crap, meant to fire it up today since start of FA means chat population gets back to normal level
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12:43 |
Samardzija back to the Cubs on a 1 year deal? |
12:44 |
: Would be fun actually. I think his best play is taking the QO, though I don’t think it’ll be happen
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12:44 |
Would it be completely ludicrous for the Twins to move Joe Mauer back to C in a platoon situation? |
12:45 |
: I think it’s a moot point now – it’s not happening.
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12:45 |
Why are cutoff jeans acceptable, but cutoff sweatpants get you kicked out of the supermarket? |
12:45 |
: The problem is we’re TOO permissive. I want to go to an over-21 only supermarket.
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12:45 |
Bigger abomination in public: those sweatpants he mentioned or fedoras? |
12:45 |
: Fedoras are better, but the people wearing them are more punchable
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12:45 |
Zobrist to the Orioles make any sense? It’d be kinda like if Ryan Flaherty ate a Mario Bros mushroom and powered up. |
12:46 |
: Yes, but it would involve ownership being a little more practical than they think they are
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12:46 |
You’re wrong on Cabrera being the most untradeable Dan. If The Cardinals traded Yadier Molina the city of St. Louis would be lit on fire. |
12:46 |
It’s pretty much impossible to project KBO players. Kang played to contact so he was easier to predict having success. Park ehhhhhhh not so much. |
12:46 |
: I think there’s a bit of danger of assuming Kang’s 2015 is his baseline (even without the injury), too
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12:46 |
Who among the current candidates for President makes the most formidable contender in battle royale (now that Jim Webb dropped out)? |
12:47 |
: Martin O’Malley maybe?
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12:47 |
: And you know Trump’s going to sneak in brass knuckles in that hair
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12:47 |
so (I think?) last week I said my girlfriend thinks that Yadi Molina is the best catcher ever and there was a response posted which suggested we don’t know enough about catcher metrics to shoot that down… problem is that she thinks he is the greatest to ever play that position… offense included… and then I look at about 31 WAR |
12:47 |
: See, this is why I’ve never dated anyone who is into baseball.
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12:48 |
: I mean what if I’m dating someone and she thinks that Ryan Theriot was a terrific second baseman? There’s NO WAY things can go back to the way they were before I learned that.
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12:48 |
Should Braves go after Plouffe, as a stop gap till Ruiz/Riley come up? |
12:49 |
: Meh, I’m not sure *trading* for a stopgap is usually a good idea
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12:49 |
why did they move mauer all the way down to 1b? They had a massive hole at 3b at the time and he probably could’ve handled it |
12:49 |
: For one, they thought he’d be able to stay healthy at first
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12:49 |
Given the gaping hole in their starting rotation, should the O’s considering stretching out Zach Britton or Brian Matusz and letting them having another go as a starter? Britton is a way different guy than he was in 2011 and Matusz looked surprisingly solid starting in ST last season. |
12:49 |
: I would, but I don’t think the O’s are that creative
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12:51 |
: This is a team, remember, even with Hardy crippled and the season essentially *over* still started PAUL JANISH at shortstop more often than Machado.
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12:51 |
Kinda hilarious to go back to 2011 and read articles about how Dylan Bundy’s long-tossing throwing training made him impervious to injury. |
12:51 |
: I’m an O’s fan, I don’t find this hilarious!
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12:51 |
Is Rusney Castillo capable of .300 with 10 homers and 20 steals? |
12:51 |
360-degree video: fad or gimmick? |
12:51 |
: Sure
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12:52 |
: wait, why can’t it be both?
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12:52 |
Is Rusney Castillo capable of .300 with 10 homers and 20 steals? |
12:52 |
Re: Robot umps: Here’s the flaw in your logic, humans are still going to control the robot umps. It’s like calling up your bank. What would you prefer, having a human answer on the first ring, or going through an automated system? Lets just enjoy being humans and have humans be the judge on balls and strikes. |
12:53 |
: Balls/strikes isn’t a customer service thing, it’s a DETERMINE WHERE A WHITEISH SPHERE THING CROSSES PENTAGON thing.
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12:54 |
: That’s like saying “humans are going to perform the heart surgery and humans make the electrocardiogram so why not skip the fancy computer and give a hobo quaaludes to use his penis as a heart-based dowsing rod?”
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12:55 |
Should robot umps be shaped like C-3PO or R2-D2? |
12:55 |
: R2-D2. C3PO robots would be punched
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12:56 |
What’re your thoughts on Lindor offensively going forward? |
12:56 |
: I’m very optimistic given his age.
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12:57 |
There’s human component to baseball, sure, but a lot of Umpires take it to the next level. You shouldn’t have Umpires giving ‘vets’ a free pass on borderline pitches and then chirping back to players when they get upset. If the Umps were consistently consistent in calling a proper strike zone the argument for the whole human component in baseball argument would be actually have something. |
12:57 |
: The human component to baseball is the baseball players!
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12:58 |
Mark Shapiro has already come out and said that he sees the Jays having one more year left in their window. Bautista and Encarnacion will likely be gone after then, but Donaldson, Martin and Tulowitzki are still under contract, plus a bunch of good/useful/cheap parts (Stroman, Travis, Pillar). Is Shapiro wrong? |
12:59 |
: I don’t think he’s necessarily wrong
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1:00 |
: After 2016, Donaldson will be two years from free agency and will have trade value if the Jays arne’t competing
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1:00 |
: But he doens’t have to commit to anything now
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1:00 |
Park to the Twins? I guess we have to take seriously the reports that Sano is playing OF this winter, because otherwise I don’t know where everyone fits. Either that or Plouffe gets traded I suppose. |
1:00 |
: Plouffe does get traded, I think
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1:00 |
Syndergaard will win a cy young true or false |
1:00 |
: False, simply because there are so few Cy Youngs available that pitchers that aren’t kershaws have lower odds of getting one
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1:01 |
Should there be robo umps for all tasks of the game? fair vs foul, safe on base running etc. Is there some aspect of the game that should be allowed to have small chance of human error? |
1:01 |
: Why? They’re not part of the game. Just like the side effects aren’t part of the desired cure for a medicine.
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1:02 |
: If someone takes medicine for restless leg syndrome, the chance of IMMINENT BLOODY DEATH (I think that’s what tyhe commercial calls it) isn’t part of the magic of the medicine. It’s part of the limitations of the medicine in return for the cure.
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1:02 |
: The only purpose of umpiring is to get the call right.
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1:02 |
Human umps are more like calling your bank, having a human answer on the first ring, and then that human giving you a rough estimate of approximately how much is in your account. |
1:02 |
: “Man, why do you have to give such an accurate balance? Where’s the magic of you guys losing $5,000 of my balance somehow?”
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1:03 |
: “Man, these self-driving cars suck. The magic of some asshole sideswiping me and me crashing into a watermelon truck is gone.”
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1:04 |
: “Goddamn post office. I remember the days of the early 21st century when the frigging postal service lost the Playstation 3 I ordered in Amazon in Dover Delaware somehow and the tracking left it there for a week until I called Amazon and they had to send me a new one.”
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1:05 |
: The last one actually happened.
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1:05 |
: Actually, the first one kind of happened too.
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1:06 |
: When I bought my current car, I got a cashier’s check for the price of the car from the bank and drove the car home.
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1:06 |
: Then I call for my balance the next day and someone at the bank had apparently taken the amount out of my bank account TWICE
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1:07 |
: So I had a negative balance in the 5 digit range. And at that shortage, the bank doesn’t magically grant overdraft and give you a horrible payment penalty – my power bill I had just paid bounced
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1:07 |
: Still pisses me off. Fucking SunTrust.
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1:07 |
Some people think the side effects of NyQuill are more useful than the intent of the medicine… |
1:08 |
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAD $5000 YESTERDAY WHEN YOU CALLED IN? IM SAYING YOU HAVE $2500 AND THATS THE END OF IT. IF YOU KEEP THIS UP YOU’LL HAVE NOTHING LEFT. |
1:08 |
I for one can’t wait for the future where the FBI is investigating the Cardinals for hacking into the Astros’s robot umps. |
1:08 |
Jim Edmonds is on the HOF ballot. Two questions: does he deserve to be in the HOF? And will he even make it to a second ballot? |
1:08 |
: Absolutely. Not a chance.
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1:08 |
The resistance to robo umpires proves that “umpires” are a jobs program. The MLB is not supposed to be a jobs program. Its a source of entertainment. ‘Merikuh. |
1:08 |
Would the robot umpires be allowed to use steroids? |
1:08 |
: Are there robot steroids?
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1:08 |
Do you think Alex Gordon will give the Royals any type of discount? |
1:08 |
: Some, not much.
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1:09 |
Do you often call to check on your balance two days in a row? Just checkin’ in? Maybe you should treat your money like a mature adult and let it be, Dan. |
1:09 |
: When I write a check of that amount I certainly do!
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1:09 |
Is the end game of all of this to eventually have robot players? |
1:09 |
: What does that have to do with everything?
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1:09 |
: There is a human element to the game: the players.
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1:10 |
: The umpires aren’t a part of the game. They’re essentially a technological component. It’s just that 1880s computer technology was made of people.
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1:10 |
But robot players would be pretty dang cool |
1:10 |
We’re very sorry you had a bad experience with us. We don’t want you back, though. |
1:10 |
Who do you see as a ‘surprise’ team that could be in play for guys like Heyward or Price? Giants? |
1:10 |
: I could see the Giants in on Price, but probably nto Heyward
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1:11 |
If all PEDs were suddenly allowed, how much would offense grow in the next few years, assuming all other factors remained the same? I think it would be a lot less than most expect. |
1:11 |
: Doubt very much. Not only would you have questions of their value beyond incremental improvements, but both pitchers and hitters would use htem
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1:11 |
R2D2 would get punted |
1:11 |
: Remember, he’s got that shock thing.
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1:11 |
Does Puig for Sonny Gray make any sense for either team in your mind? |
1:11 |
: Eh, that doesn’t seem to be the greatest fit
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1:12 |
Robot ump would make the Balls/Strikes hting a lot more accurate, sure. But what about when they start attacking the players? What then, Dan? |
1:12 |
: Hey, if there’s any chance a robot eats Jonathan Papelbon, don’t you think you have to support that?
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1:12 |
How much does Carlos Martinez’ injury worry you? |
1:12 |
: Very much. I’m worried about pitchers all the time.
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1:13 |
: Pitchers are the “priceless Ming vase set on the edge of the counter next to an angry cat while a webcam is recording” of sports.
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1:13 |
What do you make of the Dodgers interviewing Gibson? Doesn’t strike most as a “Friedman” type. |
1:13 |
: I think they’re being nice to a guy who had a small, but significant, role in team history
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1:13 |
Cy Youngs and individual awards are overrated anyways. Would you rather have 1 player with an outlier season winning a Cy young or a great but not Cy Young pitcher for multiple years? |
1:14 |
: But really, who was the last pure outlier season Cy Young guy?
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1:14 |
: Dickey and then you have to go back a ways
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1:15 |
: And even Dickey had a similar season a couple years before
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1:15 |
Who of the cubs young hitter would you trade for pitching? or would you trade from minors and keep major league intact? or just sign a bunch and no trade? |
1:15 |
: It really depends on the actual offers. You should never go into trades thinking *that* is the guy I trade and *that* is the guy I don’t.
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1:15 |
If we have robot players and robot umpires, could we, theoretically, plug in a controller and manipulate the on-field action from the comforts of our respective homes? |
1:15 |
: I would hope so!
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1:17 |
: It would be sweet if Papelbon was choking Harper and then someone at home could do Ryu’s Shoryuken move on the controller and then his head would pop up and dingoes would come and feast on the remains.
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1:17 |
Re: Robots eating Papelbon. Touche Dan, Touche. |
1:17 |
: Or dingoes. Whatever works.
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1:17 |
Do you worry about us, Dan, do you worry about your Szymborski herd? |
1:18 |
: There’s a Szymborski herd? This is way too much repsonsibility
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1:18 |
Not necessarily disagreeing with you but seeing the entire stadium & players turn to the scoreboard to see if the robot ump called the pivotal strike 3 or not. |
1:18 |
: Yeah, but you could equip the robot with cool features for this.
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1:18 |
: Like a STRIKE THREE FIREWORKS ROCKET
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1:19 |
: and the louder the crowd in decibels, the BIGGER THE ROCKET IS
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1:21 |
: Like if the crowd is going insane Royals-2015-fan style, strike three launches an eagle with a trout in one claw and the american flag in another claw and god bless america starts and then aerosmith from before they all their lips got weird is shot out of a heavy metal cannon and starts banging out all the patriotic songs heavy metal style and then the beer copter brings beer for everybody
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1:21 |
What’s your take rate on comments in a chat? Are we seeing 50% of comments? 25%? 75%? |
1:21 |
: We’re back to the usual 25% or so. On the slow weeks, we’re as much as 90
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1:21 |
Would robot players get mad at each other over bat flips though? |
1:21 |
: Sure.
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1:21 |
Yes to robot umpires, no to Gobot umpires. You gotta draw the line somewhere. |
1:21 |
Can we also have robot fans who know not to reach into the field of play? |
1:21 |
: No, but we can have a robot that PUNISHES fans.
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1:22 |
: Like a blade that travels at the speed of light and removes hands from people that go over the line if the ball is in close proximity
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1:22 |
Would robot umpires be able to eject players and managers? |
1:22 |
: Yes. Into space.
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1:22 |
Each umpire should have his/her own custom robot. Future generations won’t believe there was a time when umpires didn’t have a robot by their side. |
1:22 |
OK, so robot umpires are implemented. Next up, robot PA announcers. Would you rather be introduced by a robo-stadium announcer in the style of Stephen Hawking, or Trans-era Neil Young? |
1:23 |
: ROBOT MERLE HAGGARD
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1:23 |
: wait, I did a pirate robot thing
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1:23 |
: Crap crap, need to find it quickly
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1:23 |
: Dammit, I did it back when they were going to preserve Bob Sheppard’s voice
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1:24 | : |
1:25 |
: Wait, I can just upload it! Hold on
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1:25 |
: If you are at work MUTE YOUR SOUND BECUASE THERE WILL BE SOUND
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1:26 |
: 10 SECONDS THERE WILL BE SOUDN
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1:26 |
Could Marte-McCutchen- Polanco be the best outfield in baseball 2016? |
1:26 |
: Yes
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1:26 |
Ryan Goins hit .274/.361/.387 in the second half, with a .343 BABIP, but also did make a noted change in his stance at the plate to try and give himself a chance to be more patient and selective. Probably unlikely that slash line is real for him, but how much of it are you willing to believe in? Could you see him hitting .260/.330/.350 or something? Would be decent for a good defensive SS. |
1:26 |
: I’d actually like to see what ZiPS thinks first.
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1:26 |
Look, I have to say, I do understand and to a point agree with you that umpires aren’t a part of the game. But I don’t want every aspect of my life to have to be dictated by a computer. Joe West will never be perfect, but there’s just something so gosh darn cute about his tatrums that make me enjoy baseball. This s all for fun and entertainment. I’d rather live with imperfection with my fellow humans than to always be told right/wrong with a computer. |
1:26 |
: Then give him a terrible TV show on public access.
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1:26 |
:
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1:27 |
And now, to sing our national anthem, please welcome Paulie’s Robot from Rocky III |
1:27 |
: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PAULIE
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1:27 |
we’re seeing 100% of the robot-related questions though..ugh |
1:27 |
And when they grab you with those metal claws, you can’t break free.. because they’re made of metal, and robots are strong. Now, for only $4 a month, you can achieve peace of mind in a world full of grime and robots, with Old Glory Insurance. So, don’t cower under your afghan any longer. Make a choice. |
1:28 |
I would be become a season ticket holder if robot umps could punish fans. You have no idea the amount of people at Jays games fighting each other to grab a ball in play in the outfield. |
1:28 |
Dan.. Better MLb career.. Big Papi or Manny Ramirez? |
1:28 |
: Still Manny
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1:28 |
Can you tweet out the Goins projection once you run it? 🙂 |
1:28 |
: I can!
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1:28 |
I’m glad I started this robot chat with my initial question. |
1:28 |
but what do they give up? |
1:29 |
: I dunno, I thought about it for 15 seconds. It’s hard to tell with the Reds FO reshuffling
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1:29 |
: OK, let’s finish up with a LIghtning ROund.
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1:29 |
: A quick one., we’ve been kinda off topic for awhiel.
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1:30 |
: The rules for the Lightning Round are simple: I *must* answer any question, so long as it is off-topic. The exceptions are explicit things or work-related things, so don’t ask me about Grantland or something
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1:30 |
Cheesecake, or caked cheese? |
1:30 |
: Cheescake, I’m not sure what caked cheese is
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1:30 |
2016 World Series winner? |
1:30 |
: Yes, there wil be one.
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1:30 |
The Alaskan Bush People are neither Alaskan, bushes, or people. Thoughts? |
1:30 |
: We need to develop the technology to turn them into bushes.
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1:30 |
Are you ever tempted to give an incorrect answer on purpose to a fantasy question just to mess with the person. |
1:30 |
: Yes
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1:30 |
Tacos or sushi? |
1:30 |
: Tacos at the moment.
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1:31 |
: I had some sushi that agreed with me very poorly last year and I haven’t craved sushi since
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1:31 |
How far can you go in adding things to a grilled cheese sandwich before it is no longer a grilled cheese sandwich? |
1:31 |
: Very quickly. The basic concept of a grilled cheese sandwich is the dramatic tension of the crispy fried bread and the non-newtonian cheese. Once you lose that basic interplay, it’s not a grilled cheese
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1:32 |
Is the saguaro the Cadillac of cacti? |
1:32 |
: I’m not calling anything the cadillac of cacti becuase it will involve me getting injured somehow. I stay away from cacti
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1:32 |
Which baseball player do you think would have the easiest time convincing you to vote for them for President of the USA? |
1:33 |
: Derek Jeter. Those calming eyes.
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1:33 |
If quizzes are quizzical what are tests? |
1:33 |
: Testicles, of course.
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1:33 |
Favorite sport besides baseball? |
1:33 |
: Football
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1:33 |
On the topic of bushes, rose bushes are the worst. |
1:33 |
: I don’t like any flowers because they require gardening effort.
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1:33 |
Once you add a protein, it’s not a grilled cheeses |
1:33 |
I’m in IL and speak English. The BCBS ad at the top of my page is for TX and in Spanish. Is that your fault? |
1:33 |
: No. You should be required to learn any language that Google makes you learn.
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1:34 |
It’s not about the money, is it? |
1:34 |
: It always is.
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1:34 |
Bears or Chargers tonight? |
1:34 |
: Chargers.
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1:34 |
yo you know your sandwich facts |
1:34 |
: I do.
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1:34 |
Did you see anything interesting come out of BlizzCon? I was hoping for some big cool announcement, like at least a d3 expansion pack or something. |
1:34 |
: The thing is a lot of the stuff we saw was stuff we knew was coming.
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1:35 |
: Glad Overwatch is coming soon. I want to play it, not watch popular streamers given beta keys play it.
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1:35 |
: We knew a lot of the WOW Legion stuff
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1:35 |
: And while the Hearthstone adventure should be fun, I wanted them to unveil the new Mysterious Challenger that DIDNT DRAW AND PLAY FIVE SECRETS.
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1:36 |
Let’s try this empirically: grilled cheese + bacon, grilled cheese? |
1:36 |
: It’s not grilled cheese. It may be good, but it’s not grilled cheese.
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1:36 |
Are you married |
1:36 |
: I am not.
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1:36 |
Phil Hartman as UnFrozen Caveman Lawyer: Good Caveman lawyer, or the BEST Caveman lawyers? |
1:36 |
: Best of course.
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1:36 |
Lightsaber to your face, you must pick one: I am a) hiding out like Obi-wan was b) hiding out on Dagobah living in Yoda’s old hut c) part of the dark side d) living with Han and Leia |
1:36 |
: Living on the couch and making awkward situations.
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1:37 |
I would like to commend you for wrangling the flash flood of gibberish and nonsense a simple robot umpire question set off. |
1:37 |
Do you like Trump? |
1:37 |
: The candidate, no, the Twitch streamer, yes.
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1:37 |
: Now, if Trump weren’t actually running for president and was just being an ass and trolling, I think it’d like him more
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1:37 |
Max Scherzer has the opposite effect that Jeter does. Those eyes man. |
1:38 |
: His eyes suggest indecision. Even god couldn’t decide. But still, I love the Silver Hammer.
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1:38 |
Do baseball fans spend 95% of their disposable income on boner pills, pickup trucks, and daily fantasy? Because the adds shown during the playoffs were in that proportion. |
1:38 |
: Correct.
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1:38 |
Yeah, the contextual ads stink. I keep getting ads for t-shirts with snarky messages on them, even though I don’t wear clothes. |
1:38 |
Re grilled cheese sandwiches. It depends on what is the modifier and what is the noun. Is it a grilled cheese-sandwich? Or a grilled-cheese sandwich? If the latter, then it has been misnamed for some time. |
1:38 |
: no hyphen.
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1:39 |
: Grilled cheese sandwiches walk that line of ambiguity, like every great movie hero.
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1:39 |
Favorite movie? |
1:39 |
: Princess Bride
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1:39 |
: Though my answer will vary depending on my mood in any given day
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1:39 |
Straight outta _________? |
1:40 |
: Well, for me, I was Straight Outta Towson
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1:40 |
As someone who has seen Overwatch for about 2 minutes…is it pretty much TF2 with more? |
1:40 |
: To an extent, but it’s not class based so much as individual hero based, if that makes sense.
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1:40 |
Do you like Trump’s singing? |
1:40 |
: Neither Trump’s singing
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1:40 |
Have you ever had Heady Topper? |
1:40 |
: Never even met her.
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1:41 |
: More seriously, I have no tried it. Though I imagine I would enjoy it
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1:41 |
: I’m a sucker for an IPA
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1:41 |
: If you called broccoli an IPA, I might actually try it and then punch you
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1:41 |
Best dip? Hummus? Queso? Guac? |
1:41 |
: I’m not sure I would call hummus a dip
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1:41 |
Would you lend your name to Dan Szymborski brand breakaway sweatpants? |
1:42 |
: Sure.
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1:42 |
Barcelona or Madrid? Clasico coming up soon! |
1:42 |
: I have no association football knowledge.
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1:42 |
T or F: Grilled Cheese >= Robot Umps |
1:42 |
: Yes
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1:42 |
Anybody want a peanut? |
1:42 |
: Someone does, I’m sure. There are a lot of people.
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1:42 |
Favorite Director? |
1:42 |
: Kubrick
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1:42 |
Is the weather trippy or is it the way we interpret it that is indeed trippy? |
1:43 |
: The latter
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1:43 |
Odds of Pete Rose and Alex Rodriguez being the future of Fox baseball broadcasting? |
1:43 |
: I hope 100%
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1:43 |
How about a nice game of chess? |
1:43 |
: Nah
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1:43 |
Favorite international city? |
1:43 |
: Vienna
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1:43 |
Do you get mean or weird when you drink gin? Third option: hives. |
1:43 |
: I do not get mean or weird.
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1:43 |
: Well, weirder than I typically am.
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1:44 |
To the tune of the Oscar Mayer bologna song: “Dan Szymborski is my best friend, it’s S, Z, Y, M, B, O, R, S, K, I, Dan Symborski chats on Monday’s on F, A, N, G, R, A, P, H, S. I like to read it every day and if you ask me why I say, ’cause Dan Szymborski and Fangraphs has a way with B, A, S, E, B, A, L, L, W, O, R, D, S.” I think my song needs work. |
1:44 |
Its phenomenal. Will send you one if you would like. Only cost you a ZiPS projection or two.. |
1:44 |
: Ah, the great dilemma of man. Refuse to sell out or miss out on beer?
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1:45 |
If you lent your name to breakway sweats, would you require they had zippers instead of buttons and call them the Dan Szymborski ZiPS? |
1:45 |
: They would be called Szyppers.
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1:45 |
:
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1:45 |
How many people are usually in these chats at one time? |
1:46 |
: Between 200 and 1500
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1:46 |
Do you ever go an entire day without going outside? Not including bad weather days |
1:46 |
: Not typically. Now there are certainly days I don’t go out much
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1:47 |
Favorite tavern brawl? |
1:47 |
: Last week’s. Those Randomonium was more fun to play multiple times
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1:48 |
Pete Rose is like an old uncle who hasn’t watched baseball since the 80’s and is critical of any in game decision he doesn’t understand, commenting that it’s JUST NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE about every 5 minutes. |
1:48 |
: But entertaining
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1:48 |
Wait. The people are….IN the chats? |
1:48 |
: Yeah, at least 18% of you are not figments of my imagination
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1:48 |
Do you have any phobias |
1:48 |
: Heights
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1:48 |
Who would win in a fight, Lemy or God? |
1:49 |
: I’m sure gods win all fights because they set the rules of the Calvinball we call existence.
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1:49 |
Have you ever used vacation to play a game at launch? |
1:49 |
: I’ve never really used “vacation days” in my life.
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1:49 |
: So no
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1:49 |
Cat update plz. |
1:50 |
: Galileo is on his pillow on a desk to my left, looking at my laptop, Pandora is staring at something that I can’t see. Possibly at Reagan or Mercutio, of whom I currently know the location of neither.
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1:50 |
Calvinball. Great name drop, Dan. |
1:50 |
Trick question, Lemy is God. In Airheads, that’s how they tricked the undercover cop. |
1:50 |
: And on that note, time to end the chat!
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1:51 |
: Thanks for joining me everyone!
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1:51 |
ESPN.com, chats and projections on FanGraphs, DSzymborski on Twitter. And the ZiPS Top 25 free agents comes out this week!
: As the usual reminder, you can read my work at |
1:51 |
If Mat Latos has Cat Latos, is the next logical step for Garrett Jones to buy a ferret? |
1:51 |
: Seems reasonable.
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1:51 |
Your favorite Brady (excluding Tom, but including Alice? |
1:52 |
: Matthew Brady, who captured the awesome facial hair of Civil War-era people.
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