Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 8/25/14
11:59 |
: BAR THE DOOR KATIE, IT’S A PIER SIX BRAWL
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11:59 |
: In other words, the chattage has commenced.
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11:59 |
: But first off, our usual strangely non-baseball related business.
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12:00 |
Thoughts on Wada ROS and next year? Iawakuma 2.0? (somewhat racial profiling) |
12:00 |
: Iwakuma’s damn good – I wouldn’t call Wada *that* good.
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12:01 |
: Though I always liked him and thought he’d be a good pickup for someone after the injury
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12:01 |
Is RA Dickey finished in providing value for fantasy teams? |
12:01 |
: Probably – a league-average, durable inning-eater more valuable in real-life than fantasy.
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12:01 |
: Not all that dissimilar from Wakefield’s valuation – he had value for Boston, but wasn’t much of a fantasy value
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12:02 |
Did anything interesting come up on the radio show you were just on? How do I make that sound less stalkerish? |
12:02 |
: We talked about scrabble and the Egyptian protests!
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12:02 |
A slightly random question but I hope you’ll indulge me. If you had to trust one arm ROS, would you prefer to rely on Hiroki Kuroda or Rubby De La Rosa? Thanks so much! |
12:03 |
: I think I’d still feel safer with Kuroda
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12:04 |
Is Trumbo’s power outage injury-related? |
12:04 |
: Probalby has something to do with it – feet are useful, though probably not as directly damaging as a wrist or shoulder issue.
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12:04 |
Have you ever read about The Proteus Effect and its relation to avatar gaming? Google it. |
12:04 |
: I have not.
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12:04 |
Normally we don’t want to put much stock in the AZFL stats, but would Buxton in theory be different in the sense that it could prove that he’s healthy? |
12:04 |
: I think you’re not so much looking at the stats in this case, just that he’s healthy
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12:05 |
On day one of the 2015 regular season, the Boston Red Sox outfield will consist of ??? |
12:06 |
: three outfielders, given the labels of “leftfield” “centerfield” and “rightfield” based on their loose geographical locations.
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12:06 |
Nixon ftw. He sent some people to infiltrate Ikes headquarters and steal Ikes plans. |
12:06 |
Is Billy Hamilton the type of player to keep in an OBP dynasty or trade for a more well rounded but less standoutish player? |
12:07 |
: Depends if you feel you can survive the OBP or not. His stolen bases should increase
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12:07 |
Hi, Dan! I know that you (for good reason) don’t answer a ton of team-specific fantasy questions, but I have some really close calls and would really appreciate some guidance. Can start 2 of 4 guys in an AL-Only, weekly league: Aoki, Mookie, Dyson, Wil Myers. You thoughts? Thanks!!! |
12:08 |
: The Royals if I need to play it safe, Mookie and Myers if I need to reach for the upside.
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12:08 |
Ugh, Memphis heel is such a good description of Nixon. |
12:08 |
Ike hated Nixon, supposedly, so I will give Ike the edge here on heart and gut. Just like K Gibson says…and no video games in the locker room! |
12:08 |
How much do you think the injuries in the Angels rotation affect their ability to advance this postseason? Also how worried should Tigers fans be right now? |
12:08 |
: It’s rough – Richards was their scariest starter to face in the playoffs.
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12:08 |
Mookie Betts this week or Avisail?? |
12:10 |
: I’m staying away from Avisail this year. Recovered or not, I’m shying away from a dude coming back from torn shoulder unless he’s scary good otherwise
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12:10 |
If there was a team that knew they’d finish .500 with their current roster, but would win the World Series by signing a particular FA, what kind of 1 year contract does he get? $50M? |
12:10 |
: Possibly even more.
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12:10 |
Is Oscar Taveras finally showing us that it was just SSS, or should his lack of walking counteract any hitting too much? |
12:11 |
: I think it’s best to just stop worrying and be patient
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12:11 |
: A *lot* of worrywarts talked themselves out of George Springer very quickly
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12:11 |
I was hoping to get your thoughts on Pawtucket’s Derrik Gibson and how/if he fits in the Red Sox future plans? |
12:12 |
: I get the impression they’re wait-and-see with him and will see how he does in AAA at the start of next year
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12:12 |
Absolutely loving the Kiley McDaniel stuff. Really terrific. |
12:12 |
If Tanaka comes back healthy, how does this change the AL landscape? (with McCarthy, Kuroda, Tanaka and Greene/Capuano) the yankee rotation looks pretty solid. |
12:12 |
: I’m still calling it a significant if. He of course helps, but in a month, one player isn’t a landscape changer
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12:13 |
Do you have any insight on Pineda being potentially hurt from the MASH report? |
12:13 |
: I do not, but given Pineda’s history, I always expect him to be a little bit injured.
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12:14 |
Who closes in Oakland w/Doolittle hurt? |
12:14 |
Hey Dan, what are your thoughts on Eric O’Flaherty filling in for OAK at closer? He’s never saved a game in MLB. Does he have the stuff to do the job? |
12:14 |
: I like when questions answer themself!
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12:14 |
: (The first one)
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12:15 |
: The stuff to be a closer is the same stuff to be a good reliever.
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12:16 |
: Doug Jones was an awesome closer and I din’t think he threw 90 *km* per hour.
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12:16 |
Cano’s last year of .139 ISOp was 2008 – age 25 (and he had two .180s before that!). Will he see the power return next year, or do age and park mean this is what he is now? (I vote power) |
12:16 |
: I think we should expect a power reduction for the reasons you posit
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12:16 |
Is dark-chocolate flavored ice cream still actually dark chocolate? I need to know if I can count on those health benefits. |
12:16 |
: Depends how they obtain the dark chocolate.
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12:17 |
: I would imagine any ice cream related proportional health benefit to dark chocolate ice cream would come down to the chunkiness quotient.
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12:17 |
Have you ever seen evidence that home teams receive more favorable ball-strike calls from umpires? |
12:17 |
: I have, but I can’t quote it off-hand.
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12:18 |
: So I’m only like 95% sure, there’s a 5% chance that my brain is messing with me and I pulled it out of my ass
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12:18 |
Is Jeter batting #2 hurting the Yankees ? |
12:18 |
: I’d argue that anything that results in Derek Jeter playing baseball in 2014 is hurting the Yankees.
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12:19 |
Under the radar MVP candidates: Cano and Rendon? |
12:19 |
: Cano’s been excellent, but I think too many writers are going to go OMG WHERE IZ THE POWR
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12:19 |
: I don’t think Rendon’s gotten enough writer buzz
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12:19 |
Are the 2014 red sox the most talked about last place team of ALL TIME?? It seems like the chats are about nothing but Xander, JBJ, Betts, Castillo and the Red Sox as a whole. |
12:20 |
: They’re a popular team so they (Yankees too) will be talked about no matter what
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12:20 |
I know how fickle pitchers are with their routines, but say your throwing your ace and in the 1st inning your team scores 10 runs. Would you go to the long man in the bullpen and save the starter for the following day when he’ll serve a greater purpose? |
12:20 |
: It would be fun to try, but it’s the kind of thing you really need to get the players on the team to “buy” before you try
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12:21 |
: But I’m all for crazy experiments – teams don’t spend enough time doing crazy experiments in the spring or when the season’s over
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12:21 |
Jays offseason – double down (for real this time), stand mostly pat, or rebuild? |
12:21 |
: I think they’ll just depressingly tread water like they did this yera
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12:21 |
Mike Trout’s bomb last night evidence that he will be,from now on, impossible to pitch to? |
12:21 |
: Now on? That was ago.
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12:21 |
Is it time to worry about Machado spending his career on and off the DL? |
12:21 |
: I wouldn’t worry quite yet
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12:21 |
Do you think that Polanco was sent down to fine tune some things or more to build up his confidence with regular ABs? |
12:22 |
: That’s likely – he’ll be back soon
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12:22 |
Dan, what are your expectations for Xander next season? What type of player do you see him being, and at which position? |
12:22 |
: I think he’ll be a solid offensive SS, passable defensive SS. Hopefully Red Sox just leave him alone
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12:22 |
I hate that football (the American variety) is back. |
12:22 |
: Not me.
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12:22 |
Dan, which 2 outfielders would you take in a dynasty league, |
12:23 |
: Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig!
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12:23 |
What is to be expected out of Starlin Castro going forward? Will he rediscover his 300+ AVG? |
12:24 |
: I think his true ability will be in the .290s. Not easy to put up a good BA when the league’s under .250.
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12:24 |
Hammel has had two brutal starts with Oak, but otherwise been his normal self from this year. I think he’ll get back in the groove after a rest/skipped turn in the rotation. Agree? |
12:24 |
: Yes – people get too obsessed with short-term trends
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12:25 |
Has Jose Abreu Locked up the AL ROY? and who is the NL ROY? |
12:25 |
: I think Tanaka’s injury sealed the deal
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12:26 |
: NL kinda tricky. Hamilton deserves it on merit I think, but there’s still this feeling that he’s not what he was “supposed to” be.
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12:26 |
Wouldn’t the Angels winning the World Series with their rotation be awesome, considering how much has been disuccsed about their issues, and how much we have talked about the rotations of OAK/DET/LAD/WSH? Then again, they might just win every game 7-4 in spite of their staff which wouldn’t really prove anything |
12:26 |
: Anything can happen in baeball essentially. That’s why I feel the WC having a much steeper uphill road is a good change
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12:26 |
Would the world be totally different right now if Nixon had allowed makeup to be applied to him during his televised debate with JFK? |
12:26 |
: I think probably not
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12:26 |
(Sorry, my kid is trying to help) Dan which 2 outfielders would you take in a keep until you trade dynasty league: Hamilton, Tavares, Polanco, Springer |
12:27 |
: Shoot, I thought I was going to take any 2
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12:27 |
: Part of it is going to depend on the team construction
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12:27 |
: I’d probably take Hamilton and then agonize between the two non-Polancos
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12:27 |
: I love Polanco, but I think he’ll be a better real life player than a fantasy one
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12:28 |
Is there a site that shows a teams W-L when specific guys start or play at all in a game ? Not pitchers, position players. |
12:28 |
: I do not believe so. Now the Elias Baseball Analysts in the 80s used to be obsessed with team-record w/ player, but that’s not directly helping you now
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12:28 |
What’s the greatest possible 1-game WAR that you could realistically envision? Maybe a guy hits 5 homers and pitches a couple shutout innings? |
12:29 |
: Hit 5 homers and injures Mike Trout if he’s on the other team
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12:29 |
I would say it is 98% certain Tanaka has TJS. |
12:30 |
: I probably owuldn’t put it that high, but elbows don’t have happy endings.
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12:30 |
If you had to wager an amount of money that mattered to you, who would you bet on to play 150 games in a season: Carlos Gonzalez or Troy Tulowitzki? |
12:31 |
: Probably Tulo, but you better give me some significant odds of that.
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12:31 |
do you have a nickname? zymbo, simbo, szymbo? |
12:31 |
: Szym or Zim. I’m Szym internally at ESPN and I tend to use Zim as my gaming handles
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12:31 |
In the month of August, Nolan Arenado leads the NL in wRC+, with a strikeout rate lower than his walk rate. Clearly the Rockies missed him and others due to injury, but it seems like the Rockies always miss a ton of guys due to injury; it seems like more than average. Do you think there’s something in the air out there, literally, that makes the Rockies more prone to injuries? |
12:31 |
: I dont’ think they miss more than average, but I could be wrong.
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12:31 |
Nats/A’s is the most watchable WS matchup in my opinion. So many aces! You? |
12:31 |
: Well, O’s/Nats so I can easily go to all the games!
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12:31 |
The NYT had an article on the home field ball strike bias this weekend. |
12:32 |
: I missed that one (I’d surely remember something I read over the weekend)`
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12:32 |
Bacon tastes good! |
12:32 |
: Correct.
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12:32 |
over-under Chris Davis year end BA: .185 |
12:32 |
: Over
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12:32 |
Can we say that Strasburg is going to be an ERA underachiever until something significant changes? Sort of a Curt Schilling without the Innings? |
12:33 |
: Isn’t his ERA/FIP disparity a quarter of a run or so? That’s not exactly alarming
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12:33 |
: (Over a few years)
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12:33 |
Ad for Pizzeria Pretzel Combos on the right frame of the page is making me…. hungry? |
12:33 |
: I cannot answer questions about your internal hunger.
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12:33 |
Projection for Dee Gordon next year, bust or more of what he’s been doing this year? |
12:34 |
: I was skeptical of Gordon too, but he’s been legitimately good, not pretend good like some random dude with a .400 BABIP or somethign
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12:34 |
To counter the ‘favorable strike zone’ argument, Atlanta Braves world series wins (not appearances). If they had favorable zones, they would have more than one in that time. |
12:34 |
Brett Talley’s post today about limiting hard contact suggests that Stephen Strasburg is particularly susceptible to being hit hard. Do you think this is advice that fantasy owners should act on? Is it time to sell high on Strasburg if you can? |
12:35 |
: I think it’s premature.
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12:35 |
It seems Zips is more pessimistic on breakout pitchers and slower to adjust than Steamer. |
12:35 |
: Haven’t compared them.
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12:35 |
Can/should Kershaw win the Cy with the reduced innings? He has already compiled 5+ WAR despite the missed time… |
12:35 |
: Yes
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12:35 |
Who is more valuable to their teams.. Lebron James of Peyton Manning? |
12:36 |
: I will say Peyton, but that’s partially the nature of the quarterback position in football
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12:36 |
Do you know of any research that shows the success rate of top-rates prospects vs. non-top-rated prospects? All the hype around the Cubs (and not just for scrimping on healthcare) and their prospects and I wonder if we should all be looking at other players…… |
12:36 |
: Honestly, I’m not sure of this one. I may have read something but I don’t remember.
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12:37 |
Do you think the Mariners have the best pen? |
12:37 |
: Nah, Ii’d say Royals.
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12:37 |
If Delmon Young received 600 PAs next year as a DH, what would it look like? |
12:37 |
: Probalby more usual Delmon.
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12:38 |
: If Delmon’s a .360 BABIP guy, then I’m a dude who gets $100 from each person in this chat.
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12:38 |
: (See what I did there? If I’m wrong you guys gotta pay up now. Blame Vic)
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12:38 |
Gun to your head: Does Yu Darvish pitch again this season? |
12:38 |
: This comes up a lot. What kind of psychopath demands baseball questions at gunpoint?
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12:38 |
: And why are they not being arrested?
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12:38 |
: There should be a paddy wagon outside your house right now.
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12:39 |
: But assuming you’re a very bad person, I don’t think Yu is back this year.
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12:39 |
Ervin Santana has a career K/9 of 7.18. So far this year it’s 8.21. ZIPS has him for 8.31 RoS. Does ZIPS know that he’s improved his pitch mix? Is it looking at his RoS schedule? Before this year, he’s had 5 straight years under 8. What makes ZIPS think he’s going to post an 8.31? |
12:40 |
: ZiPS ROS isn’t that sophisticated.
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12:40 |
: (Needs to run every morning- can’t be full ZiPS)
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12:40 |
: And you have to remember from his career line that he pitched in a lower strikeout era in a lower strikeout league
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12:41 |
I’m not sure if I agree that Hamilton “deserves” it on merit. His fWAR is due to vastly inflated defensive numbers due to the smallest CF in baseball. |
12:43 |
: That’s a bit speculative – Choo’s CIN CF numbers were atrocious and Stubbs has continued in Colorado to put up similar numbers and before him, Taveras wasn’t that far off his usual eitehr
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12:44 |
How low do over all offensive numbers have to be for the league to start making changes? I mean, its dropping QUICK! |
12:44 |
: I’m not sure, to be honest.
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12:44 |
: I think they go with the flow unless there’s real evidence that it’s hurting ticket sales
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12:44 |
Has Kyle Hendricks been really good, or is he just lucky? When watching him pitch… it seems like he has some really late movement that makes him hard to square up. |
12:44 |
: He’s been both. I think he’s a more mid-rotation type
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12:44 |
Although it is common for you and your FG peers to echo the same sentiments about predicitions, etc. Are there ever ‘heated’ internal rivalries or bets about conflicting predictions or opinions? Care to share any examples? |
12:45 |
: None that I’ve been involved in.
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12:45 |
: But I’m not internally involved with FG on day-to-day basis, so I’m the wrong person to ask
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12:46 |
: Now, ESPN, I haven’t been involved in any internal rivalries – most of the heated rivalries involve very angry readers
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12:46 |
Seems like the AL went from having a couple of clear favorites to each of the contenders having significant flaws. Am I wrong about this? Are the A’s/Angels still that far ahead of the rest? |
12:47 |
: I still think so.
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12:47 |
RE: Peyton vs Lerbon, even though Peyton has no effect on defence, you have him as more valuable? |
12:47 |
: But he has more effect on the part he’s involved in.
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12:47 |
Keep hearing rumors the Braves are going to trade Gattis – how likely is it and how dumb an idea is it? |
12:47 |
: I don’t think it’s likely.
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12:47 |
I thought you lived in Ohio–how does that make it easy to go to Nats/O’s series? Again, really, not meaning to sound like your stalker. |
12:47 |
: I’m in Baltimore a lot, sometimes for weeks at a time.
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12:48 |
: All I need to work is a laptop.
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12:48 |
: Some places I’ve done chats from include Croatia, Grand Turk, and Bar Harbor.
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12:49 |
: I also do not have children. So if I feel like going somewhere for a week, I just do it!
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12:49 |
If you want to cry, go read the comments on Cameron’s article on “The Orioles and Accepting Random Variation.” |
12:49 |
: I haven’t cried since Aeris died.
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12:50 |
: OK, that’s not true, my grandfather and dad died since then. But it’s unusual.
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12:50 |
Why are there so very little fast guys who can take walks?? Seems like over the last 25 years, the league had PLENTY of them (Ricky, Lofton, Rock, Eric Young, Brett Butler, Offerman, Knoblauch, among many others). Seems like it was an “easy” way to be a valuable player. Is it because we now love the long ball too much? |
12:50 |
: Probably because in a power age, you need to do more of those things than you used to
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12:50 |
What do you see Kris Bryant’s numbers looking like next season, if he gets called up late April? |
12:50 |
: Haven’t run the projection, but I expect it to be insane.
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12:51 |
So about Anthony Rizzo… should fans be excited that he can even get better? |
12:51 |
: No. Don’t be greedy. Big steps forward aren’t generally followed by more steps forward.
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12:51 |
Random LLWS question. Is the reason the US team loses so much because the foreign nations have one all-star team, while we have several local teams ? Does the LLWS like it this way to promote the sport internationally ? |
12:52 |
: Hmm, not sure how to answer that question.
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12:52 |
: We’re not really organized in a way to have a national little league team in that way
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12:53 |
Knife to your throat, who hits more career HR: Puig or Trout? |
12:53 |
: Puig by a little.
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12:53 |
Anvil perched perilously above your head, how many all-star appearances will Rendon make in his career? |
12:53 |
: 4
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12:53 |
: So much violence.
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12:54 |
How does the Japanese League handle PED’s? Have players tested positive? |
12:55 |
: They do drug testing using Olympic standards, I believe
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12:56 |
: Danny Rios and the utility Luis Gonzalez were both suspended for a year at one point
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12:56 |
What was the one-game WAR when Rick Wise pitched a no-hitter and hit two homeruns in 1971? http://www.baseball-referen… |
12:56 |
Have you updated your 10 year ZIPS for Pujols? Seems like his numbers are about three years advanced from where he was expected to be at this age. |
12:56 |
: I did it recently for a piece on worst current contract obligations.
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12:57 |
: Pujols was at -$120 million projected at that point, a couple million better than Fielder.
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12:57 |
Where can I find your projections for players? |
12:57 |
: Softly whispered in the breeze when the cherry blossoms are at just the right point.
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12:57 |
Do you think WARs biggest flaw is that it calculates wins without taking the score and the situation in account. Should it be called True Skill Level? |
12:58 |
: I don’t think it’s an issue – I’m not a fan of game state for just overall evaluation, from a philosophical standpoint.
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12:58 |
: Even if we accept some form of randomness, we don’t have to *increase* the noise without much purpose
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12:59 |
: At least, say with FIP vs. ERA, there’s evidence that he pitcher has some influence on hit balls. With WPA, we’re essentially including things like the player’s supproting offense
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12:59 |
Nixon would certainly have the edge in advance scouting over Ike, at least |
12:59 |
Final Fantasy X had the best story and plot twist of any Final Fantasy. Agree or Disagree? |
1:00 |
: It was a very good one. However…
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1:00 |
: I think the second-half of Final Fantasy XII was the plot that interested me the most.
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1:00 |
: Man that was a poorly paced game – it’d be more popular if you could start about 1/3 of the way in
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1:01 |
Red hot poker precariously close to your eye, why would arbitrary threats of violence change your answers to a question? |
1:01 |
: While there are scenarios in which I would die out of principle, I won’t die out of *all* principles
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1:02 |
: “Dan, activate this nuclear bomb that will blow up Chicago or we’ll kill you” OK, that’s a principle to die for.
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1:02 |
: “Dan, say that Jeff Francoeur is awesome or we’ll kill you.” I’m not sure I’m ready to die in order to not be snarky about Frenchy
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1:02 |
Were Wieters’ ZiPS numbers crazy high when he was called up several years back? Or was it just Nate’s numbers? |
1:02 |
: ZiPS liked Wieters, but ZiPS was lower on Wieters than PECOTA, by a healthy margin
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1:02 |
At what point in a no hitter does it become likely to happen? 1 out in the 8th? |
1:02 |
: Depends where you’re drawing likely.
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1:03 |
: I’d put it 50/50 at the start of ninth (since the pitcher is likely at a temporary true level above his normal ability)
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1:03 |
The link to that Rick Wise game reminded me that Tim McCarver was a catcher. It makes a lot of sense though, I know I find it very easy to justify throwing things at McCarver. |
1:03 |
Why is the fWAR formula hidden? |
1:03 |
: All great fortunes are based on a dark, dark secret.
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1:04 |
Didn’t someone on FG do a bust rate article on prospects a year ago? |
1:04 |
: It’s very possible. I’m a rather odd baseball writer, not a database!
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1:04 |
Does Grant Balfour, Jim Johnson, and Joe Nathan make Papelbons contract more or less “valuable”. He’s still overpaid, but at least he’s consistent. |
1:04 |
: Relievers are only consistent until they’re not.
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1:04 |
ChadBroChill17? Now that’s a throwback. Look back at all the people who graduated out of Derrick Comedy and are on to bigger and better things. |
1:05 |
: Anyway, on that note, time to wrap it up for antoher week.
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1:05 |
ESPN.com mainly, projections and chats here at FanGraphs, and DSzymborski on Twitter.
: As usual, you can find me at |
1:06 |
: And last off-topic note, did any of you hearthstone players watch hyperx invitational yesterday? The last game was insane. Triple Ragnaros!
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Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Some links for that prospect bust rate question
http://www.royalsreview.com/2011/2/14/1992424/success-and-failure-rates-of-top-mlb-prospects
The one above has links to many other studies
This one is the often cited look at K and BB rates with prospects
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2013/6/7/4402222/minor-league-baseball-walk-strikeout-rates-prospects
You can find many more with google.