Eno Sarris Baseball Chat — 11/20/14
| 11:43 |
: I’ll be here shortly. In the meantime, anyone get a Steely Dan vibe from this?
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| 11:43 |
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| 12:01 |
: Ooops. Forgot to publish this. I’ll give y’all a second. It’ll be like a real-time lightning round!
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| 12:03 |
pew pew |
| 12:03 |
::lightning:: |
| 12:03 |
Let’s dance! |
| 12:03 |
: It’s only us here now.
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| 12:03 |
you’re clearly a bay area homer rawwwrrrr |
| 12:04 |
: Well I live here, so if you mean homer in that I write about these topics more because I hear about the teams more and know more about the teams and am in the clubhouses more, you got me. Rooting has devolved into rooting for stories and specific players though.
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| 12:04 |
Even if they didn’t win the world series, alex gordon had a chance to create one of the greatest baseball moments of all time. If successful, it probably would have been the greatest ever. |
| 12:04 |
: I think he would have been thrown out and it would have been a stain on his career.
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| 12:04 |
It was clear from the footage, God wanted Alex Gordon to go home |
| 12:05 |
: Which is awesome. He’s a gamer, he wanted to push it. I love him as a player and as an interview. Dedicated himself, changed himself, and came back to the bigs ready to compete in every area of the game.
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| 12:05 |
Babe Ruth once lost a WS on a CS. Nobody seems to care. /cuts off anyone claiming I’m comparing Gordon and Ruth as players |
| 12:05 |
: Well that’s a cool tidbit I’d never heard before.
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| 12:05 |
the Mets have all the pitching, will they go use it to acquire a bat? Cespedes would be a start somewhere. |
| 12:06 |
: If anyone wants Niese, Colon, Gee or any combo of the three, they can probably have them for offense. Does anyone want them?
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| 12:06 |
Ich denke, ich hatte eine Frage, aber ich habe es vergessen. Verdammt. |
| 12:06 |
: I’ll give you some time.
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| 12:06 |
Eno! So if RAJ or Dayton Moore gave either Billy Butler or Michael Cuddyer the contracts that they received from more saber-minded GMs, they would be getting KILLED right now. True/false. |
| 12:07 |
: A lot of people hated both of those contracts. Dave Cameron, I believe, hates both of those contracts. I kinda hate the Cuddyer one, but here’s something: right-handed power. In both cases, the teams acquiring the bats needed them. Also: most of my post would not have applied had Butler signed the same contract with the Royals.
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| 12:08 |
Eno, thanks for chatting! Based on lineup optimization, your best hitters should be 2nd and 4th. Can you explain this to me? I don’t understand why you wouldn’t bat your best guy first and second best guy second, and so on and so forth. |
| 12:09 |
: I think it’s because of OBP and SLG, to speak roughly and generally. Imagine the perfect scenario: #1 gets on, #2 hits over, #3 gets on or hits over, #4 slugs them all in. With OBP around .330, you’re likely to get one guy on. Then you get your best chance with your cleanup hitter on in the first inning. After that, yeah I guess you just want more PAs for the best guys. But there are 162 first innings at least.
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| 12:09 |
kuhnhenn raspberry eisbock release! should I try to trade for some @ $30/12.7oz? |
| 12:09 |
: That is SO pricey. I don’t even love Cascade but the cascade blackcap sour is less than that per ounce.
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| 12:09 |
: (and good)
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| 12:10 |
Although the comment section got a little…rough re: Cole Hamels, is there any truth in the concept of a market price v. inherent price distinction? That is to say, Jeff may be right that inherently he doesn’t have that much value; but when the music stops and someone in need of a good SP doesn’t have one, Hamels is there… |
| 12:11 |
: I think it’s a hugely important thing that’s coming up right now in trade talks for Hamels. Phillies say: He’s a top-five pitcher in the league (which i agree with). Other team says: Yeah but we have to pay him like that. I think the return (if there is one, this sort of conversation may not lead to trading him) will be underwhelming to some.
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| 12:11 |
ENO TIMMEEE http://38.media.tumblr.com/… |
| 12:12 |
What level of defensive player would you expect out of George Springer next season? Steamer doesn’t like his D. Also, favorite Russian Imperial Stout, |
| 12:14 |
: I think he’s a good defensive guy based on tools alone. I can’t believe he’ll be a negative in the corner. I like Parabola from Firestone Walker, but Alesmith Speedway Stout (and especially the variants like the vietnamese coffee) will always be my favorite.
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| 12:14 |
I see everyone wants the mets to trade for a SS, and yet the only SS they can realistically afford (prospects wise) are not upgrades over Wilmer Flores. Ramirez projects to be 0.3 wins better, but gets paid 10 mil vs the league minimum, and flores will still only be 23 on opening day. Gregorius is a downgrade, wins wise, and so is owings and miller. Why give up a cost-controlled pitcher for a non-upgrade? It makes no sense. At this point, if they cant get Tulo, they should just go with what they have |
| 12:14 |
: I don’t believe the projections for Flores. I don’t believe he’s a shortstop defensively.
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| 12:14 |
So are we sure that Shelby Miller is broken, not just figured out? |
| 12:15 |
: I think he could throw the cutter more. 310 of them he’s thrown and it’s above-average by whiffs, grounders, movement and velocity. It’d be a wrinkle. Plus he just started throwing more two-seamers this year.
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| 12:15 |
I meant your fawning over Billy Beane for signing the similarly-named Butler, obviously. |
| 12:15 |
: Fawning. I said it “might not be crazy.” Fawning.
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| 12:15 |
Hi Eno, pitchFX classified curves… some have lots of vertical break like a Mike Fiers, some are more of a slurve like Kluber, some are just plain nasty both horizontally and vertically like wainwright…. to say that a hitter has a given wRC+ vs “CU” seems a bit misleading to me. Is it possible that hitters hit certain “types” of curves better than others? also, what is the most important attribute of having a good curve? break? spin rate? consistent arm slot relative to the fastball? sorry for the whopper…. doing some deep dive on curve balls data and would appreciate ur thoughts |
| 12:17 |
: Yes, I do try to avoid the hitter vs pitch type thing because of exactly this. Maybe at some point we can be more sophisticated and say, this guy has problems with pitches with vertical break, this one has trouble with pitches with horizontal break.
For curves, the big yakkers, the 6/-6 pitches, those I think tend to get fewer whiffs. They’re slow, the batters see them, and they don’t swing. They can be used well for called strikes. The tighter curves, like Kimbrel’s power curve slider thing, those are better for whiffs. More like a slider. |
| 12:17 |
Castro to the Mets makes stupid amounts of sense, no? |
| 12:17 |
Do you agree that it’s quite stupid to trade Castro? Prospects are not 100% and neither are pitchers. Castro is in the bag already. |
| 12:18 |
: I mean the Mets need a shortstop in my estimation. But the second is also true. They don’t yet have another shortstop that has shown he’s worthy in the major leagues!
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| 12:18 |
Did you hear about Mr. Met? Goodnight, sweet prince. http://www.clickhole.com/ar… |
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| 12:19 |
What’s an appropriate price in fangraphs points for a top closer? Chapman, Kimberly etc |
| 12:20 |
: I don’t need to push past $15 really. They only go for $12-15 in the draft. Maybe for the best two (Kimberly autocorrect lolz) you can push it to 18 or so. 20 seems wrong.
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| 12:20 |
Ruth CS to end the WS was in 1926. |
| 12:20 |
: Well my excuse was that I wasn’t up that late and it wasn’t on tv.
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| 12:20 |
I’m in San Diego–WHY DOES ANYONE EVER LEAVE THIS PARADISE? |
| 12:20 |
: I can’t wait to go down for winter meetings. Have the FanGraphs brewery tour planned already.
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| 12:20 |
Eno, has your impression of the Cuddyer signing changed since the Russell Martin and Victor Martinez signings, and the Stanton extension? Alderson indicated that he thought the market would run high this year, and that’s why he was okay with 2 years / $21 million (plus probably $10 million value of the first rounder)? |
| 12:21 |
: It’s pretty crazy what the D-first catcher and the old DH got. Numbers starting to get nutty.
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| 12:21 |
As per Petriello;s article on the jays and going for it, and knowning they need a 2b, can Murphy net anything? The mets wont extend him, or offer him a QO, so isnt this the best time to get ANYTHING for him? |
| 12:22 |
: I’m in this camp. I think his D was always shaky and will get worse, and he’s a BABIP-dependent contact guy at the plate. I mean I kinda like him, but not if someone will give the Mets something for him.
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| 12:22 |
Why does Billy Butler lack real HR power? |
| 12:22 |
: He does hit a ton of grounders. Just a bad plane for power.
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| 12:22 |
Is it odd that Butler went from an organization with one reputation to one with the opposite reputation because the latter organization behaved as the former usually does? |
| 12:22 |
: I thought it was a delightful transaction. Immediately wanted to write about it, and started thinking as I was racing after my kid around the house.
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| 12:23 |
hated is one thing, receiving ridicule is another… and I thought dave did a fox piece about how the cuddyer deal might not be so bad |
| 12:23 |
: Truth. Because wins 82-88 may be worth more now with the second wild card. The market seems to be zooming though.
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| 12:23 |
I fail to see how the Cubs will not be great. Unless they are bad in the clutch. But what the the odds that happens for a 15th year in a row? |
| 12:23 |
: Let’s not tempt fate.
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| 12:23 |
Founders backwoods bastard – wow thats bourbon-y. You a fan of barrel aged beers? |
| 12:24 |
: I wasn’t at first, and something tells me I wouldn’t like Avery’s Uncle Jacob (17.5% ABV), but if it’s more like 12% I can handle it and they have so much taste and mouthfeel. They are great beers.
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| 12:24 |
Based on Heyward’s DSR in RF, he could play decent CF right? (I read DrewGROF’s article) |
| 12:25 |
: The Braves played him there sometimes. Which suggests to me he can do it. Jay’s pretty bad… but Bourjos plus Jay? Might be worth keeping Heyward in the corner more often.
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| 12:25 |
Country breakfast gonna drink all the craft beer in the bay area leaving you thirsty and beerless, you should be hating this trade!!!!!!!! |
| 12:25 |
: Really? He likes craft beer? I do look forward to talking to him again.
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| 12:25 |
There has been “talk” about the Indians shopping Nick Swisher. A story (Daily Dish) indicated that Swish back to the NYY’s would make sense.. How likely do you see that? |
| 12:26 |
: $30m and he’s projected for a half win… unlikely.
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| 12:26 |
I don’t get Butler hate. He has a lot of years left in my opinion. KC wanted players to hit more grounders as a philosophy |
| 12:26 |
: Certainly seems that way. They’ve led the league in grounders for a while.
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| 12:27 |
shouldn’t this be called the Eno Sarris Beerball Chat? |
| 12:27 |
C.H.U.D. |
| 12:27 |
the Mets trio could probably fetch a Carlos Quentin in return, bench guy. |
| 12:27 |
: Sad but true lude.
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| 12:27 |
Given what we know about Billy Beane isn’t it rational to give him the benefit of the doubt on Billy Butler? The difference between him and RAJ/Dayton Moore is process: if he signed Butler there was probably an intelligent reason, versus a bad GM who would’ve just overvalued his power. |
| 12:29 |
: I don’t know, man, the question exhausts me. I’m in the Oakland and SF clubhouses all the time, so when the A’s made a transaction everyone hated, I jumped on it from the other side.
I’m German. Consensus freaks the heck out of me. I wrote an article about how saber the Giants were and how the Marlins were well-run. I like to think I always look at the other side. Would I do it for the Phillies? I don’t know, it would depend on the transaction. But I did just write a story about Shelby Miller when most people liked the trade for the Cards. I do this all the time. |
| 12:30 |
Kimbrel is owed $33 million over the next 3 years, realistically, what kind of return could the Braves get for him? What if they packaged him with an Upton? Or is that too much salary to move? |
| 12:31 |
: Hard to tell. It’s like the second-best closer on an almost free agent deal. I suppose he’d get more years and more money on the market, so he is attractive. But what teams really want to go out there and trade for a dominant closer? I think he stays.
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| 12:31 |
Oh man I heard that Abita’s bourbon stout is aged in Pappy barrels. |
| 12:31 |
: 50/50 in Truckee has one too I think.
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| 12:31 |
Ever heard of the Stanford Swing? I heard the term recently but I’m having a hard time finding out exactly what it is. |
| 12:33 |
: Wrote a whole piece about it in last year’s Hardball Times Annual. Short version: Stanford players are taught to put their foot down really quickly (“you can’t hit with your foot in the air”) and then try to spray up the middle. Some people call that robotic (quoted Keith Law as saying as much). But if you hit when you get to Stanford, you don’t get taught the swing. Carlos Quentin does not swing with the Stanford Swing because Carlos Quentin mashed. Also, Stanford has sent more people to the major leagues than everyone save a handful of schools, and when a school has accrued more WAR than Stanford it’s usually because they churned out a star more recently like Ryan Braun when Stanford’s best was a while back in Mike Mussina.
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| 12:33 |
did you ever publish the ordered list of states for beergraphs or do we have to read each new post? want to know when mine is coming up |
| 12:33 |
: I’ll have a link going back. What’s your state?
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| 12:34 |
What’s the Marlins’ 2015-17 ceiling if they build on the Stanton contract? |
| 12:34 |
: They had a decent offense last year and their pitching is about to get better. I think they could win the division in the next three years.
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| 12:34 |
If all the musicians fought all the artists in the world, who would win? |
| 12:35 |
: Look I know a couple of artists are ‘cut your own ear off’ crazy, but musicians, man, they know how to party and if you party enough, late enough, you end up in a fight. I’ll pick the Badfish.
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| 12:35 |
I have Bryant and Machado in a limited keeper with one UTIL spot. Should I hold on to both in anticipation of a position change for one or both or cut one loose? |
| 12:35 |
: Hold both. I think Bryant might be headed to the outfield myself.
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| 12:36 |
: (It’s been a while since I’ve seen him play third, I’ll admit. But he’s huge. And the hands weren’t great when i saw him.)
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| 12:36 |
but the question is, does Montero or Syndergaard or wheeler or degrom or matz, would you give up any of those mets pitchers for didi gregorius or alexi ramirez? because niese or gee are not getting the job done |
| 12:37 |
: Yes this is the question. I get Nervous around DeGrom, Syndergaard, would say no there. I know some people I trust that love Matz. Montero is good, but I *might* trade him. I like his fastball, and command, but the secondary stuff..
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| 12:37 |
I’m being facetious, Eno 🙂 |
| 12:37 |
: Phew
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| 12:37 |
Hey Eno, is it just me, or are the yankees being suspiciously quiet? Big (ish) move on the way? or just not much going on? |
| 12:38 |
: I think they need some pitching. Probably working on that.
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| 12:38 |
If you and peak afro coco crisp had a head butting contest, who would win? |
| 12:38 |
: Coco by a mile. I have limp white person hair. It can look big but it’s not tough.
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| 12:39 |
Is Heyward a top 40 fantasy OF? |
| 12:39 |
: He was 34th last year in a down year. Yes.
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| 12:39 |
Should Archie Bradley still be viewed as a potential rotation ace? |
| 12:40 |
: Obviously more dings, but it’s all about finding some command.
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| 12:40 |
I finally got a teaching interview a week ago and now they have contacted my references. Good sign? |
| 12:40 |
: yes! buy a good beer tonight! maybe don’t tweet about it though. they might be watching.
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| 12:41 |
Aren’t shortstops just hard to find, period? I mean the Cardinals let Pete Kozma do it for a year. |
| 12:41 |
At first I thought we were talking about Jason Castro at short…. |
| 12:41 |
: That would be an interesting solution.
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| 12:41 |
Eno.. how do Indians’s fans get you to fawn over the Indians $ 3.5 MM Starting Rotation like you fawn over Billy Butler?. Should the Indians pitchers change their names to Billy Bauer, Billy Kluber, Billy Carrasco and Billy House?. would that do it?. |
| 12:42 |
: Oh my god I love that rotation. I was set to write the Petriello piece about how I like the Indians so much next year. I’ve written interviews with Kluber and coined Kluberization, I fawned over Salazar even as Salazar was stinking, I was all over Carrasco before Carrasco was Carrasco….
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| 12:42 |
Are prospects no longer as valuable as they were 5 years ago? Seems like every trade back then was a MLB player for prospects, and now its all based around current MLBers. |
| 12:43 |
: The Cespedes for Lester thing was amazing. This is what I think: since 85 wins is a good projection now, and a team that good can win it all, the pressure is on fielding a good team this year. So moving from 78 to 83 wins is huge. So why wait around when you can get a guy who can help you do that right now?
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| 12:43 |
You- “what I wrote wouldn’t apply to KC” is techinically true, but isn’t that the point of the bias? If Oak signs him, FG digs deep to explain it, if KC does, its a simple bad contract article and move on. It isn’t really that hard to accept that even smart people make mistakes. |
| 12:45 |
: This is why this is exhausting to me, at it’s core. I am not FG. I am one man who writes on a site. You know, we used to write about every major transaction from both sides when we had a bigger staff. That was an organizational thing. What happened with that article was a man named Eno Sarris thought “hey why did the A’s do this?”
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| 12:45 |
If Hamels gets traded to either Boston or Toronto, how much does his fantasy value suffer? He’s probably good for a few more wins on a decent team, but he’s a homer prone guy who might be headed to a bad park for HR. Between the park adjustment, the schedule factors mentioned earlier this week, and the DH, aren’t we looking at something much closer to a top 30SP than the season he just turned in? Am I crazy for thinking hes a 3.75/1.20/8.50 in Toronto? |
| 12:46 |
: Citizens Bank hasn’t been playing like the homer haven it used to be, but it is interesting that he’s not a groundball guy and he’s had many years with 1+ HR/9. With offense down, I’d make that 3.55/1.18/8.5 in a bad park in AL I think.
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| 12:46 |
What percentage will butler be used at DH and first base? |
| 12:47 |
: Beane says 1b v LHP only.
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| 12:47 |
create a fangraphs brewery and make a beer that tastes like an old catchers mitt |
| 12:47 |
: When I was homebrewing more, I had all sorts of beer names based on players. Brett Pillsner.
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| 12:48 |
That body should age well. |
| 12:48 |
: Right on the cutoff I used for ‘big players’ at 240, so yeah, could be some DL time in his future based on what I found. But he’s been very healthy and they buying 28-31, not 31-34.
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| 12:48 |
have you sampled butlers BBQ sauce |
| 12:48 |
: this sounds sexy
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| 12:49 |
Based on Moneyball maybe Billy Beane just has a thing for fat players? Sandoval next? |
| 12:49 |
: I’m not going to lie I got a DM from a writer who covers the team that was about how Beane loves bad-looking bodied guys lol.
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| 12:50 |
I’m not gonna lie Eno, I was in a bad way yesterday. Maybe these clouds finally got to me. I dunno. But today, it’s only 9:23 for us, and I’ve already had DMV success when I was sure that I would fail due to not having my passport on me or something, and I fixed the thing with my car AND I may have solved the mystery of the noise that happens sometimes when we turn the heat on. It’s the little things Eno. The little things. |
| 12:50 |
: One man lude.
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| 12:50 |
What do you make of the rumor that the Padres are preparing to make a big splash? |
| 12:50 |
: They contacted Pablo and have have new ownership…
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| 12:50 |
I have no particularly good quizzes to share today. I guess this one: http://www.sporcle.com/game… |
| 12:51 |
Who would you keep Soler or Cespedes? Assuming Cesp stays in Boston |
| 12:51 |
: Oh man I usually say the more established guy but I’m feeling giddy about Soler and you could own him for longer, since he’s 7 years younger!
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| 12:51 |
Would you support paring the divisons in baseball back down to 4 total? Seems like elite teams clustering in divisions like AL East is a persistent problem. |
| 12:53 |
: Oh four total. I thought you meant four per league, which could fix some wild card issues. The schedule being unbalanced seems unfair at times, it does. Especially with interleague. At least it’s not football with 16 games and ‘first place schedules’.
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| 12:54 |
HEY! ENO! Look over there!!! (gently strokes your hair as you look away) |
| 12:54 |
JUpton would make sense in RF for the yankees. do they have the trade assets to make this happen? would something like mason williams and phelps get this done? |
| 12:54 |
: Not sure they have the horses to get thid done.
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| 12:55 |
??-Bourjos-Heyward. Who needs to play LF to make that OF defense better than Gordon-Dyson-Cain? |
| 12:55 |
: As bad as Jay is in center, in the corner, that might get close.
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| 12:55 |
I believe in a Heyward breakout for a bunch of reasons you’re not supposed to: change of scenery, contract year, Cards magic (the gathering). That and he’s incredibly athletic. |
| 12:55 |
: Change of scenery could mean change of approach with a new coach. He used to have a more power-happy swing, could get back to that.
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| 12:56 |
the Royals: the Singles and Steals offense |
| 12:57 |
: Not to go on a rant, but I DID INVESTIGATE what made the Royals great. Just because some people didn’t read that piece didn’t mean it didn’t happen. I looked at regular- and post-season correlations for K% and BsR, for example. I looked at four decades worth of regular-season correlations to see if K% was more important now than before.
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| 12:57 |
Is Adam LaRoche going to be more or less of a value after the Butler signing? |
| 12:58 |
: Well older, but plays in field and has had better seasons (without looking). But one less team that could want him, so price goes down. More.
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| 12:58 |
Re: Elite RP in FGpts (Ottoneu). Typically undervalued IMO. Yes, relievers have risk, but the points above replacement level (~150-200) that you get from a top RP over a replacement level RP comes at a cheaper price than buy ~200 extra points at another position OF, SP, MI, etc. If you can load up on reasonably priced elite RP, even if they cost $15, you can afford to save a lot more money at other positions – spending less on SP for example. |
| 12:58 |
Is Miggy at $72 worth keeping in ottoneu? |
| 12:58 |
: If you’re competitive, yes. He’ll go for nearly that much in auction anyway.
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| 12:59 |
I can’t stay, I have to teach stacking cups to the kids at Robert Louis Stevenson elementary school in the sunset. Yea, teaching Physical Education in the rain can still be awesome. You know what they say: Those that can’t do, teach and those who can’t teach, teach PE! |
| 12:59 |
Belly Butler |
| 12:59 |
Alex Gordon would have been safe. The throw would have arrived at home when Gordon was still close enough to 3B to retreat safely. |
| 12:59 |
du claw sweet baby jesus… peanut butter cup in a bottle |
| 12:59 |
Stanford Swing is chopping the ball into the ground |
| 12:59 |
People seem to have forgotten about Prince fielder. How do you see him performing next year for texas after his injury plagued 2014? |
| 12:59 |
: .275+/25+ with a bit of missed time for some other ailment.
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| 1:00 |
What are some reasons to believe in an Andrus bounceback year? |
| 1:01 |
: He’s the same guy as Alcides Escobar?
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| 1:01 |
Think Pittsburgh has any chance to improve on last year after losing Russ Martin, replacing him with Cervilli (and Stewart), adding AJ Burnett (again), and likely signing one more FA SP? |
| 1:01 |
: Based mostly on improvement from young players. Not sure Mercer has any more improvement left, but I love Polanco and think he’s got more in him. Plus I like some of their young starters in the minors.
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| 1:01 |
Buying low on McCann for next season? Seems like a good bounce back candidate after he hit an .817 OPS in Sept/Aug. |
| 1:01 |
: yeah I think he can be good even while being shifted. Perfect park for him.
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| 1:02 |
Players with a higher ISO than Billy Butler: Denard Span, Asdrubal Cabrera, Jordy Mercer, Jose Altuve, Jose Reyes, also 110 other guys. That’s not exactly intriguing power for a player who doesn’t play a position. |
| 1:02 |
: Correction: a higher “2014” iso.
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| 1:02 |
would also be helpful to filter by state on the leaderboards rather than region, but understand if not possible |
| 1:03 |
: It is possible. Click the state in the leaderboard and you get it. Or manipulate the URL, look see: http://www.beergraphs.com/l…
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| 1:03 |
Musicians by a landslide. |
| 1:03 |
: Totally.
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| 1:03 |
what’s up with almanac’s distribution? CA, NV, and… NY? i came across it in an amazing grocery store in the hudson valley and got a few. seems like an odd collection of states. |
| 1:04 |
: Distribution in general is super weird. It’s also kind of magical because it makes beer more regional.
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| 1:04 |
Do you think that Mejia long term will be a closer? I love watching that guy pitch, and the stomp is the best closer celebration out there. |
| 1:04 |
: Yes and yes.
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| 1:04 |
: Just can’t stay healthy as a starter.
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| 1:04 |
Would you rather: Be Mike Trout, or Giancarlo Stanton? |
| 1:05 |
: 1) California. 2) Angels.
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| 1:05 |
Have you ever played competitive baseball? |
| 1:06 |
: I was really really really bad in high school. Was it competitive? I might have seen some guys hit 75, saw some breaking balls. Didn’t hit many.
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| 1:06 |
my swag is Jay Buhner |
| 1:06 |
What minor league pitcher right now do you see as the highest likely future “ace” (use your own definition of ace) |
| 1:09 |
: Syndergaard has good velocity, decent command, and three pitches now that he developed his change further in Vegas. I really like Henry Owens, more than I should I guess. Giolito sexy. Walker. Give me Thor.
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| 1:09 |
Hi Eno…who breaks out and who just breaks? Keuchel, Hutchison, Fiers, Hahn, Wada. |
| 1:09 |
: Wada makes me super nervous at 87 or whatever. Not big into him. Hahn has the injury history, might be most likely to ‘break’ but I like him. If ranking, Keuchel Hahn Hutch Fiers.
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| 1:10 |
Do you have some sort of hub for all of your pictures of different pitch grips? I would love to be able to compare different pitchers grips of the same pitch side-by-side. |
| 1:10 |
: Working on this. You can see my articles at enosarris.com in the meantime.
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| 1:10 |
Three quick keep-forever keeper questions (say that three times fast): 1) Kipnis or Wong? 2) Trade Kemp to make room to keep Heyward? 3) Bailey, Gausman or Carrasco for last pitching keeper? THANKS ENO! |
| 1:11 |
: I like what Wong is doing but Kipnis for sure. I’d trade Kemp even though i think he can .280/20+/10 next year. 3) Carrasco based on youth stuff and health.
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| 1:11 |
Who replaces Panda, assuming he is a goner (which looks likely)? |
| 1:12 |
: If it was me, Headley.
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| 1:12 |
I have you down for these pitchers to watch for 2015: Allen Webster, Randall Delgado, Chase Anderson, TJ House, Cory Rasmus, David Hale, Henry Owens, Danny Salazar. Any others you like? |
| 1:13 |
: Shane Greene. After more investigation, I’ve reversed my stance on him. Heard he’s working on refining a pitch, too. Also, Delgado and Hale and Rasmus are on the back end — deep league pickups at best.
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| 1:16 |
In retrospect, the chapter of Moneyball about the draft is hilarious, since it’s all Lewis talking about what a genius Beane is to be passing over a bunch of future stars to pick guys who never ended up playing in the majors. |
| 1:16 |
Where is Chase Headley? I keep hearing about Sandoval, but it seems absolutely foolish to make an offer to Sandoval before you talk to Headley or even HanRam…. |
| 1:17 |
: I think the market usually sets with the top guy signing and then the next guy compares himself to the top guy and goes to the teams that lost out on top guy.
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| 1:17 |
ran projections on my current roster, and based on Steamer I’d be ahead of the 1st place counting stats considerably. Do I have a good team, or should I temper my expectations once ZIPS comes out? |
| 1:17 |
: gotta always work to get better, and check zips.
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| 1:17 |
question – one might argue that jp ricciardi was an awful gm and handed out a lot of bad contracts (wells, rios), like RAJ… But now ricciardi is in a saber front office and hes part of a brain trust. If RAJ got fired for being awful (bc he should, like Ricciardi), but then went to oakland, would we all just forget how bad he was? |
| 1:18 |
: Omar’s in San Diego doing Latin American work, which is perfect. Sometimes a guy is better in a role.
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| 1:18 |
Chances the Royals stink next year? |
| 1:18 |
: They made it based on the two main team aspects least-correlated to team success, so I think they’ll be about a .500 team next year.
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| 1:19 |
Where are you getting the data for when you say “X pitch is above average for swings, miss, contact etc…”? Brooks? How do you find average there? |
| 1:19 |
: we have it on our pitchf/x tabs for every pitcher and here are the averages http://www.fangraphs.com/fa…
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| 1:19 |
Everytime I see a picture of Jeff Wilpon lurking behind Sandy in a press conference, I feel so depressed for my fandom. Just me? |
| 1:20 |
: I hate the Wilpons, I’ll admit it out loud. Meddling owners who made their money to buy the team in a ponzi scheme.
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| 1:20 |
Who’s your guess for A’s SS next season? |
| 1:20 |
: Stephen Drew into Daniel Robertson?
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| 1:20 |
So Brett Lawrie is going to have a post post post hype sleeper breakout next year, right? |
| 1:21 |
: I still believe. He’s going to kill me.
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| 1:21 |
Y U NO INCLUDE DC ON LEADERBOARDS?! |
| 1:21 |
: It’s there now http://www.beergraphs.com/l…
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| 1:21 |
Dayn Perry says you stink is it true and what is your stench? |
| 1:21 |
: My side of the story: I stayed at his house during a week-long bender that started at the all star game in Minny and ended at Pitchfork Fest in Chicago.
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| 1:22 |
Keep a guy who might not be in MLB early next year (Lindor) over Heyward as a 3rd outfielder? Keep 12, 12 team league. |
| 1:22 |
: Not sure Lindor will be a great fantasy play. I see defense as his best tool.
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| 1:22 |
mejia peripherals werent even good, he contributes more to the mets by playing on a different team |
| 1:24 |
: By whiffs, grounders and velocity, he has had an elite sinker and slider, an above-average change, curve, and cutter. Last year, his sinker had a top-ten whiff rate, his slider was more than a standard deviation better than league average, and his change and curve improved. He’s got a great arsenal, and I think he can improve command. Plus, stomp.
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| 1:25 |
Trying to win this year and next in a 12 team 5×5 roto… do you have an hesitation signing Jose Fernandez to a 2 year $14 deal? Any way you’d be inclined to stretch that to 3/$19? |
| 1:26 |
: I like it. I think three years better. There’s a 400-inning TJ honeymoon even if you have two of them, and you get a better AAV, more healthy years past this one.
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| 1:26 |
I saw rtj last weekend in portland and tried Pliny the elder, that tequila ipa, and blind pig I feEl pretty accomplished and portland strip clubs rule |
| 1:26 |
: congratulations!
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Thoughts on Wacha heading into 2015? The injury slowed down the hype train from 2013. |
| 1:26 |
: Lemme check… still love him.
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| 1:27 |
TJ House worth keeping at $4 or am I just getting sucked into your positive energy vibe about Cleveland pitchers all being Kluberized? |
| 1:27 |
: He’s a bad velocity lefty but he has two good offspeed pitches and great command. I’d keep.
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| 1:27 |
You really buying Hanram to the M’s, homeboy from mlbtr is pretty confident I’m not so sure? |
| 1:27 |
: Weird because I’d rather not play him at short an then they’ll have to trade their two shortstops?
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| 1:28 |
Yankees sign 10 of the top 30 Latin amateur players this year. How would you fix this garbage. |
| 1:28 |
: Not an international draft.
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| 1:28 |
Eno, Assuming C.Martinez does start for STL, would you rather keep him or Gausman in a Keeper League? |
| 1:28 |
: Martinez. Easier league, nastier stuff.
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| 1:28 |
Do you think Wright can bounceback to a 5-6 WAR player? |
| 1:29 |
: He’ll have more off years, but yes I think he has a couple more excellent years left.
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| 1:29 |
You think Jon Singleton can figure it out next year? Your thoughts on him? |
| 1:30 |
: He tried to cut down his swing to make more contact and his strikeouts went up. I only want him for super cheap in the deepest of leagues.
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| 1:30 |
More depressing than a mendacious owner lurking behind a GM is a faceless corporation lurking invisibly behind a GM. Liberty Media is a terrible “owner” for the Braves. |
| 1:31 |
how is this a thing? http://www.beergraphs.com/l… it’s safe to say i haven’t had the white house homebrew, but how is there even enough data for this to rank #8 in DC??? |
| 1:31 |
: If they all into social media (they probably are) and checked into it proudly (they probably did), then it got into untappd and into our leaderboard.
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| 1:32 |
Has you gained a new perception or opinions by being the clubhouse and talking to players? I mean a lot of time they say things like the numbers don’t support, but it is hard to believe there isn’t some truth in what they say. |
| 1:32 |
: Yes, more appreciation for the role of mechanics in analysis. We regress everyone to league and personal means, but breakouts happen because people change.
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| 1:33 |
Giddy over Soler – what do you think he’s capable of? Have option of keeping 2 of him, Carlos Rodon, Mookie Betts, Archie Bradley and Byron Buxton as my keepers for 2015. I would like 2015 impact more than future potential of course. And Soler to me is (as a cubs fan) who i’m most excited about. Thoughts? |
| 1:33 |
: Soler is on my team, and I don’t love pitchers anyway so I take Betts. Buxton so far is broken, Bradley can’t find the plate, and Rodon… well that one’s not super easy, but I take the hitters.
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| 1:33 |
What are your thoughts on Hunter Strickland? Is he a AAAA guy or is he someone we will see in the majors going forward? |
| 1:34 |
: He’s got to figure out how to get life on the fastball, or maybe throw a two-seamer, or something. But the slider is fine, the fastball is straight but super fast, and he’ll get another shot. I think the homers were a bit of bad luck. One was on the outside corner and pulled out. I think he could go inside some. He lives on the outside corner and has good command, but rarely goes inside, so people hang over plate.
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| 1:35 |
You think Carlos Martinez has a good shot in the rotation? I got him in a firesale |
| 1:35 |
: Yeah. I mean, the change goes 90 and I’m not totally sold on it, so it might be risky, but I’ll take that velocity. At least he throws his change more than Eovaldi.
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| 1:35 |
You know the FA class is weak when multiple teams are “aggressively pursuing” Tori Hunter. |
| 1:36 |
: He’s aged so well! He’s also well-aged.
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| 1:36 |
d’Arnaud or Plawecki for the future? |
| 1:36 |
: TdA for me. Great framer, bat’s coming.
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| 1:36 |
Recent research has shown that empirical evidence for globalization of corporate innovation is very limited and as a corollary the market for technologies is shrinking. As a world leader, it’s important for America to provide systematic research grants for our scientists. I believe strongly there will always be a need for us to have a well-articulated innovation policy with emphasis on human resource development, thank you. |
| 1:36 |
: I agree!
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| 1:36 |
Can Niese or Gee get any return |
| 1:36 |
: More hopeful someone likes Niese and his contract.
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| 1:37 |
Great work on the Giants this year. Thoughts on which FA SP they should target? I’d love someone on the cheaper side like Hammel or McCarthy or maybe Sabean will right the wrong and bring Liriano back… |
| 1:37 |
: That would be fun. Liriano! I think it’ll be a one or two year deal for a vet, Hudson style. Interested to see what Peavy gets.
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| 1:38 |
Who’s the ace in our rotation? Harvey/deGrom/Wheeler/Syndergaard? |
| 1:38 |
: Still Harvey.
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| 1:38 |
Retiring soon. What’s the Perfect Retirement IPA? My first plan of action in retirement is to find a designated driver to take me to all the breweries out here in San Diego. |
| 1:38 |
: Nelson IPA!
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| 1:38 |
: THE BABY NEEDS ME
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| 1:39 |
: I love you guys! Probably won’t talk to you next week, but see you soon.
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| 1:39 |
Have a Nice Thanksgiving |
| 1:39 |
: You too!
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With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.
I guess it works for the Mets FO that they’ve convinced so many people to lower their expectations of what their players are worth. But isn’t curious to you that pitcher no better than Dillon Gee (Jeremy Hellickson) just scored 2 top ten prospects from the DBacks system? Or that Shelby Miller, he of the 7% swinging strike rate and 6.25/9 K rate and 3.59/9 BB rate and 4.54 FIP could yield such a good player as Justin Heyward?
Oh sure, but Dillon Gee and Jon Niese will yield only worthless scraps. Gotcha. This is what happens when a FO is difficult to work with or just holds onto players too long bc they are paralyzed by fear of making a mistake.
Fo too difficult to work with? Are you sure you are not talking about the phillies. One of the mets and phillies was able to trade Byrd for 2 top prospects and one failed will Halliday then failed with lee then failed with hamel. All Philly have now is around 10 year or eebuilding