FanGraphs After Dark Chat – 8/8/17
11:09 |
What is Tuesday’s best matchup?
BOS (Sale) vs. TB (Pruitt) (14.5% | 20 votes)
COL (Marquez) vs. CLE (Kluber) (40.8% | 56 votes)
MIL (Garza) vs. MIN (Mejia) (0% | 0 votes)
STL (Wacha) vs. KC (Vargas) (4.3% | 6 votes)
LAD (Maeda) vs. ARI (Godley) (37.9% | 52 votes)
BAL (Hellickson) vs. LAA (Bridwell) (2.1% | 3 votes)
Other (0% | 0 votes)
Total Votes: 137
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11:13 |
How many HR would Barry Bonds have hit if he had played one last season, in 2008?
0-5 (2.4% | 4 votes)
6-10 (0.6% | 1 vote)
11-15 (3.0% | 5 votes)
16-20 (15.4% | 25 votes)
21-25 (21.6% | 35 votes)
26-30 (27.1% | 44 votes)
31-35 (14.8% | 24 votes)
36-40 (8.6% | 14 votes)
41+ (6.1% | 10 votes)
Total Votes: 162
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9:02 |
: Hi everybody!
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9:02 |
: One sec, still getting set up.
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9:04 |
: OK, let’s do this thing.
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9:04 |
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9:05 |
: I don’t think so. Rick Hahn spoke to us at Saber Seminar on Saturday, and he told the person who asked to “buy a ticket for Friday,” regarding Lopez’s debut. That was, at the time, a week away. If he wasn’t worried dropping that hint/news, he’s not concerned with Lopez’s performance. And so I won’t be either.
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9:05 |
: He also made it sound like Lopez was ready a start or two ago, but he didn’t want to call him up at the time because he wanted to give Lopez a soft landing in his MLB debut in terms of opponent.
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9:05 |
: How do you see the Dodgers handling their playoff rotation? Could they do regular starts with Kershaw and Darvish, then do planned 4ish inning split games with Wood/Ryu/Maeda/Hill? Or does one of their 7 legit starters get left off the playoff roster?
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9:06 |
: I haven’t mapped out the whole staff yet so I don’t want to say who gets left off, but I would assume the rotation is Kershaw-Darvish 1-2, and Wood-Hill in 3-4 in some order.
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9:07 |
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9:07 |
: Every home run derby you see stats such as player X has 23 HRs, he would have 21 in this park etc. Is there a way to figure out how many HR barry bonds would have had if he played every game in coors or yankee stadium?
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9:08 | : I am not sure how far back you can go, but you should be able to do that with the overlays at |
9:08 |
: Of course, that won’t be conclusive, but you can get an idea.
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9:08 |
: BTW, Jeff *should* be along in a little bit.
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9:08 |
: If he had been healthy to begin the season, would the Sox have shopped Rodon? And if so what do you think his return would have been?
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9:08 |
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9:09 |
: He’s still just 24, so he can be a part of the next great White Sox team. Also, the 4.04 ERA was probably enough to scare away at least a couple of teams.
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9:09 |
: Andrelton Simmons is the third most valuable player in the AL by fWAR (second most by bWAR), where does this rank on the, “Holy Crap, Didn’t See That Coming” Scale?
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9:10 |
: Pretty high, I’d say, but the potential was always there. All he had to do was learn how to hit. We just didn’t expect it because glove-first dudes don’t usually magically learn how to hit better.
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9:10 |
: The Twins just promoted Stephen Gonsalves to AAA, with them basically admitting they aren’t playoff contenders wouldn’t it just be better to give him that development time in the bigs?
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9:11 |
: Well, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with giving him a month in Triple-A and then promoting him to the majors once the minor league season ends and major league rosters expand.
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9:11 |
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9:12 |
: I don’t have any data that says skipping one start will help him regain velocity, but intuitively, you would think it could only help to rest a bit.
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9:12 |
: How about how many HR would Barry Bonds have hit in his prime with today’s ball?
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9:12 |
: Hah. I can’t count that high!
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9:13 |
: So Sale is good again. What’s your view of the catcher theory?
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9:13 |
: When was Sale not good? Everyone has a bad start or two. If you mean what do I think about personal catchers? I think it’s a bunch of nonsense. But if the pitcher thinks he gets a psychological edge from it, and he’s the very best in the game — Sale, Kershaw, etc. — then I’ll allow it.
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9:14 |
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9:14 |
: Acuna as the next Trout. Too pessimistic?
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9:14 |
: Um, yeah! How about Trout + Walter Johnson + Willie McCovey?
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9:15 |
: Swanson has been playing 2B in AAA… What on earth are they doing with him?
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9:16 | : Sounds like they’re just trying to get everyone in their crowded Triple-A infield some playing time – |
9:16 |
: Would you agree that Pomeranz is having a better year this year than Porcello did last year?
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9:16 |
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9:17 |
: It’s close, but I think I’ll still give Porcello the nod for now. Pomeranz is certainly trending in the right direction though.
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9:17 |
: WHEN IS CARSON BACK!!!! HIS BASEBALL CHILDREN ALSO NEED HIM!!!
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9:18 |
: My sources tell me that Carson will be back in late August.
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9:18 |
: My sources also tell me that his baby is adorable. 🙂
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9:19 |
: What’s your take on Domingo Santana? Got a ton of hype during his hot streak, but seems to have cooled. Is he a solid starter or something more?
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9:19 |
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9:20 |
: Hypothetical, say Blake Swihart was still considered a prospect. Where would you rank him in the Red Sox farm system?
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9:20 |
: Say, if he had never graduated to the majors, and was just a 25-year-old catcher with a 62 wRC+ in Triple-A? That’s not a top prospect.
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9:21 |
: Do you think eno’s Tanaka as vampire idea is credible?
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9:21 |
: I don’t think it’s UN-credible, but I can’t buy it as the sole reason he’s sucked at night.
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9:22 |
: For fantasy (but no saves) do you prefer Britton or Stroman?
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9:22 |
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9:22 |
: What are a couple of names other than Verlander you think will be traded before August 31?
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9:22 |
: Jay Bruce and Jose Bautista
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9:23 |
: Not as certain on Bautista, might be wishcasting. Wouldn’t it be fun to see him end up on Colorado and see if he can regain his swing in time for the playoffs?
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9:23 |
: I think it’d be fun.
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9:23 |
: Do you also believe in the conspiracy of the official mlb ball?
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9:23 |
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9:24 |
: That the ball has been juiced? Yeah, but like Travis pointed out today (and Dr. Alan Nathan did over the weekend), I don’t think it’s the sole reason for the uptick in homers.
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9:24 |
: Hi Jeff!
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9:24 |
: No conspiracy, I think they changed companies and then it changed.
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9:24 |
: Which pitching line tonight was more surprising- German Marquez 6IP 0R (CLE) or Vance Worley 6IP 1R (WSH)?
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9:25 |
: Oh, Worley for sure. Marquez has been pretty good lately.
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9:25 |
: Worley. He is barely replacement level
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9:25 |
: Can we talk about how great Don Baylor was? One of my favorite players as a kid.
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9:26 |
: Yes, yes we can. Don Baylor was everything to the Colorado Rockies. He was the team’s first manager, led them to their first playoffs, and was the hitting coach when they went to the postseason in 2009.
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9:26 |
: I never really followed his career. Sorry.
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9:26 |
: He always carried himself with class and grace, always set a good example, and was certainly nice to me the one time I had to interview him.
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9:26 |
: Furthermore, he helped integrate Austin, TX, schools, no easy feat. He will be sorely missed.
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9:27 |
: Bautista’s swing isn’t coming back. His bat speed is gone. He could play on the moon and it wouldn’t matter.
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9:27 |
: Wow Tom. Just wow. Way to be a buzzkill.
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9:28 |
: For this instance, I would love to have multiple years of exit velocity to compare. We are 10 years away from answering these types of questions.
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9:28 |
: Allegedly, Bonds began juicing after the 1998 offseason. If, theoretically, he never took PEDs, what would his final numbers estimate to be and when would he retire? Through his age 34 season, he was averaging around 30-40 homeruns and 25-35 stolen bases along with a 6-9 WAR
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9:29 |
: I mean, I don’t need to calculate that out for you, you can do it one your own, you’re a smart person. Certainly, he still would have been an inner-circle Hall of Famer.
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9:29 |
: He also would have probably not been blackballed and have played for another season or two, which would have helped mitigate some of the difference.
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9:30 |
: The stolen bases were likely done but otherwise, he continues to produce
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9:30 |
: HOF for sure
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9:30 |
: Fantasy keeper question: My $21 Rendon for $7 Moustakas. Worth trading Rendon for the $14 savings next year?
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9:30 |
: Not to me, but I’m usually the low man on Moustakas.
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9:31 |
: No for now but Moose could really see a HR spike if he gets out of KC and to a small home park.
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9:31 |
: Tommy Pham attributes much his recent success both offensively and defensively to having his vision corrected. He probably isn’t going to continue to play as good as he has, and he’s 29, but how valuable will he be going forward?
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9:32 |
: I’d say he’s a solid 2-WAR player going forward. Maybe 2.5. That’s pretty good, considering he had a total of 1.6 WAR entering the season.
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9:32 |
: 1 to 2 WAR player. I have limited expectations
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9:32 |
: If the change of scenery myth was true, who would be a good match for Buxton?
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9:33 |
: Anyone
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9:33 |
: I would think he’d be the most effective in a park with a similarly big center field, like Oakland or Texas or something like that.
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9:34 |
: I also don’t think that “change of scenery” is a myth. It certainly doesn’t always hold up, but sometimes guys really do need a different situation to succeed.
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9:34 |
: Or consistent playing time.
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9:34 |
: Is Trevor Cahill crapping out?
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9:35 |
: 4 of the 11 fly balls he has allowed in Kansas City have gone for home runs. Call me crazy, but I don’t think that trend will continue.
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9:36 |
: It’s just not good when both your BB/9 and HR/9 are at 4.15. He’s not striking anyone out. Crapping out seems appropriate.
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9:37 |
: So the assumption is the Cubs pull away for the nl central. And the Indians should be better than others in the Al central. Is it going to be a very ‘boring’ September, with a very stacked playoffs?
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9:37 |
: The wild cards will keep it interesting, especially in the AL
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9:38 |
: I honestly don’t think the Cubs will pull away in the NL Central. There’s no reason that the Brewers should just collapse. And really, for as bad as they’ve been the Cardinals are only 3.5 out, and Pittsburgh 4.5 out. One hot streak could make it interesting. As for the AL Central….I could have seen Cleveland pulling away before Andrew Miller got hurt. Now…not as much. We’ll see.
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9:38 |
: Of the teams that look like a good bet to make it to the play-in game (Rockies, Dbacks, Yankees, Royals, Mariners, Rays), who is the one you’d be the most worried to face?
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9:39 |
: Probably the Yankees, then the Rockies/Dbacks, Rays, Mariners.
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9:39 |
: D-Backs. Best top end starters IMO
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9:39 |
: But in one game, they’re all capable of winning. I have the Mariners on the bottom here, but all it takes is Cano and Cruz going off and you’ve got 7 runs on the board or something.
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9:40 |
: What do you make of Bogaerts’ strategy of taking the first pitch then chasing the second to ensure he’s in an 0-2 hole every at bat?
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9:40 |
: It’s a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off for him.
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9:41 |
: Nice
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9:41 |
: that’s a ton of votes for 31+ when he hit 5, 26, and 28 his last 3 seasons
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9:41 |
: To be fair, 26-30 is leading.
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9:42 |
: Yes
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9:42 |
: Hey Paul, did you ever get to meet Don Baylor?
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9:43 |
: I honestly can’t remember. I feel like I must have, given that I was in the clubhouse a lot in 2009, but I can’t pull out a specific memory. And all my old Rockies Magazines are buried in my basement. 🙁
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9:43 |
: (Note that Bogaerts singled as soon as we published that comment about him.)
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9:44 |
: I self published an ebook about…football. would it be gauche to link it here? I even published it under my actual name lol (unbelievably, “hscer” isn’t my actual name)
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9:44 |
: Sure, link away!
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9:45 |
: Why does Josh Donaldson return to Josh Donaldson vs the Yankees??
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9:45 |
: Auditioning for his next team? (ducks)
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9:45 |
: He has to hit against someone and everyone hates the Yankees?
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9:46 |
: Felt I needed a big bat in my h2h pts dynasty. Traded CMart and Benintindi for Blackmon. Need some reassurance I didn’t just hurt myself…
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9:46 |
: No, I think that’s pretty good. Blackmon should still be good the next few years. Good consolidation trade.
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9:47 |
: Do what you need to this time of year to win.
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9:47 |
: Josh Donaldson is headed to the Long Island Ducks?
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9:47 |
: That’s cold.
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9:47 |
: How much regression should we expect from Cody Bellinger next season?
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9:48 |
: He’s played most of this season, so I’d say to expect less than if he had like Benintendi/Lawrie playing time.
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9:48 |
: I kind of expect some this season. He has to have a couple of holes in that massive swing
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9:48 |
: Do you think Judge or Stanton get to 50HRs, or is the injury and slump monster coming
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9:49 |
: I’ll still take the under for both.
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9:49 |
: I think they can. I like Stanton’s chances
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9:49 |
: What do you think has changed things for Bregman? BABIP isn’t the cause.
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9:50 |
: Just genuine improvement? It was about time. But I honestly haven’t delved in too deep. I know we are getting a Bregman piece this week though. Someone just called it this evening. So stay tuned!
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9:50 |
: He seems pretty consistent. I’m not sure the change
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9:51 |
: Eduardo Nunez or Mike Trout? Tough call, best hitter ever vs. best hitter ever. Who you taking?
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9:51 |
: Eduardo Trout.
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9:51 |
: Mike Nunez
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9:52 |
: What do you think the percentage of “disappointed in player X” fans are fans of that team as opposed to “he’s killing me on my fantasy team”?
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9:52 |
: Oh, at least 40%. Not going to lie, guys who torpedo my fantasy seasons definitely color my views as well. I’m only human damnit!
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9:53 |
: Maybe not that high but some exist
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9:53 |
: Honey, it’s time to come to bed, you’ve been baseball chatting since 9
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9:53 |
: Hah, my wife couldn’t care less. There’s a decent chance she’ll be asleep when we finish.
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9:53 |
: LOL, more like come help get the kids asleep.
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9:54 |
: No no, they’re asleep. 🙂
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9:54 |
: in a dynasty league – sell high on bellinger for madbum?
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9:54 |
: Nope, I’d hang onto Bellinger.
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9:55 |
: No ….. pretty sure no
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9:55 |
: No but seriously, what an addition to the Red Sox Nunez has been. Can’t believe the Sox got him for practically nothing. Not that he can keep up what he has been doing since he joined the team, but he doesn’t have to be anything but a good bench player for here on out.
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9:55 |
: He has not only been important to the team, but just as importantly, he’s been fun to watch. He is a guy who prioritizes contact, and if you can consistently make solid contact, Fenway Park is a great place to play.
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9:56 |
: Correct. Perfect fit for a team with decent regulars
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9:56 |
: Another fun Marlins thought- Stanton and Yelich have the same BA in August (yeah it’s BA, but). Raise your hand if you thought that would happen in March…
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9:57 |
: Hand raised! I love Yelich, and he had an AWESOME WBC. No reason to think back in March he wouldn’t be good. The doubts with Yelich didn’t creep in until mid-May after his rocky start.
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9:57 |
: I am a little surprised Stanton has one so high
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9:58 |
: Re:Bregman … Look forward to his article. Just a quick glance shows no drastic changes to hard hit, fly ball or babip yet his K percentage is way down and iso way up. Kind of seems like one of statistically unexplanable improvements. Hoping something tangible is found.
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9:58 |
: Me too!
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9:58 |
: Yep
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9:58 |
: Chris Sale: 8.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R 0 ER, 1 BB, 13 K
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9:58 |
: Corey Kluber: 9.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 11K
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9:59 |
: Dueling aces! Too bad it wasn’t the same game.
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9:59 |
: Although Pruitt and Marquez were pretty good too.
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9:59 |
: And Kluber is going to get the L. Wins are dumb
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9:59 |
: is dustin pedroia a fair comp for mookie betts?
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10:00 |
: Maybe wrote too soon
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10:00 | : Nope – |
10:00 |
: No
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10:00 |
: Go to cumulative WAR by age. Mookie has double Pedroia’s WAR at age 24.
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10:01 |
: Travis punted on this question earlier: why is the Nats putting Harper through waivers “procedural” (and what is the point)?
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10:01 |
: I used to know the answer to this, but now I don’t remember. It IS a pretty common thing, from what I recall. Sorry I can’t remember stuff.
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10:02 |
: They put everyone out and hope someone sneaks through. Just happens
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10:03 |
: Greg Holland blew it, just after you posted that. Karma is real
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10:03 |
: It is indeed.
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10:03 |
: I needed that W in Tout Wars
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10:03 |
: More like wanted it
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10:03 |
: Wow, Yan Gomes hits a three-run homer to win it for Cleveland.
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10:04 |
: Alright everyone, we’re going to have to call it a night. Thanks for hanging out, as always. No chat next week, I’ll be on vacation.
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10:04 |
: Bye
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Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.
A.: Another fun Marlins thought- Stanton and Yelich have the same BA in August (yeah it’s BA, but). Raise your hand if you thought that would happen in March…
Paul, he was talking about why Stanton has such a high batting average, not yelich. Of course Yelich was going to have a high batting average.
Ah, yes, sorry. I always forget that Stanton has such a low batting average.