Halladay vs. Lincecum: A “My Two Dads” Special Event

This post is (a) talking about the issues, but also (b) keeping it funky.

Philadelphia at San Francisco | NLCS, Game Five | 7:57pm ET
Starting Pitchers
Phillies: Roy Halladay
250.2 IP, 7.86 K/9, 1.08 BB/9, .298 BABIP, 51.2% GB, 11.3% HR/FB, 2.92 xFIP, 6.6 WAR

Giants: Tim Lincecum
212.1 IP, 9.79 K/9, 3.22 BB/9, .324 BABIP, 48.9% GB, 9.9% HR/FB, 3.21 xFIP, 5.1 WAR

Notes
In the event that you weren’t there to witness it in its primetime glory, allow me to tell you briefly about the show My Two Dads. Actually, allow me to allow Wikipedia to tell you:

The show begins when Marcy Bradford (Emma Samms), the mother of Nicole Bradford (Staci Keanan), dies. The two men who had competed for the woman’s affections before Nicole was born — Michael Taylor (Paul Reiser) and Joey Harris (Greg Evigan) — are awarded joint custody of Nicole. The mix-ups of two single straight men raising a teen-aged daughter provided the story each week. Judge Margaret W. Wilbur (Florence Stanley), a family court judge, would frequently visit the new family and served as Nicole’s mentor.

That’s not a bad description of the show but for one omission: any mention of the respective dads’ equal and opposite personalities. Reiser’s Michael is conservative, deliberate, and works in finance; Evigan’s Joey — well, that pierced ear should tell you everything you need to know. Dude is crazy!

Hilarity is about to ensue.

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In any case, the moral of exactly every episode of My Two Dads goes like this: Michael and Joey are different people, and this is made manifest in their approaches to parenting, but both are equally good dads because of how much they love their little Nicole.

Tonight’s pitching match-up, if I may blow your minds for a minute, is like an episode of My Two Dads written for baseball. Halladay is Reiser: understated, efficient. Lincecum is Joey: unorthodox, long-haired, marijuana. But both arrive at the same fundamental end — i.e. dominating their opponent.

The differences/similarities are perhaps most notable in each pitcher’s walk and strikeout numbers. If we judge the two pitchers’ command by the traditional K:BB, Halladay wins easily: 6.3:1 versus Lincecum’s 3.1:1. Those are both good ratios, but Halladay has the advantage on account of his low walk rates.

However, the always-right Tom Tango wrote in March that, rather than using K:BB ratio to adjudge command, we actually ought to use the difference between a pitcher’s strikeouts and walks per batter faced. By that measure, here are the top-10 pitchers this season (with at least 10 starts):

What you’ll notice there — besides the fact that Stephen Strasburg needs to get well soon and Cliff Lee is acually a robot-person — is that Lincecum, though he has a considerably less impressive K:BB ratio than Halladay, actually compares favorably so far as strikeout and walk difference is concerned. Like Joey, he takes an unorthodox approach to his job (parenting, pitching), but ends up in roughly the same places as his more conservative counterpart.

Of course, the analogy isn’t air-tight. Owing to his whiff-based approach, it follows that Lincecum is forced to throw more pitches. In fact, he threw 16.2 per inning this season — as opposed to Halladay’s 14.2. That adds up: Halladay pitched almost 40 more innings in the same exact number of starts (33) as Lincecum. Over the course of the season, that’s valuable.

We can assume that tonight, however — in our first elimination game of the Championship Series — that pitch counts will take a back seat to victory. In this single match-up we’ll be able see each pitcher become entirely himself.





Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.

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Fergie348
16 years ago

Can’t wait.. I love JOEY!!

BurleighGrimes
16 years ago

+1 on the My Two Dads reference. So excited for tonight’s game, and I am not even a Giants or a Phillies fan!

Matt Defalco
16 years ago

Carson, I want you to host a chat for the ALCS game tomorrow night.

Just for the sake of referencing the poor quality of the Indians’ young catcher’s new compilation album.

RCMember since 2016
16 years ago

Next season I want an analysis of the NL Central with each team being represented by one of the children on “Step-by-Step”.

Mark
16 years ago

When you say compares favorably… do you know what you mean?

Mark
16 years ago

In both senses it technically means “is better than,” yeah. It was clear enough what you meant, of course. And, uh, sorry about the way I phrased the question, incidentally.

Graham
16 years ago

I don’t believe this is preposition-dependent — when you say “compares favorably to/with,” you are indeed saying “is better than.” At least that’s the accepted usage nowadays. Great piece, though, and I’m certainly not quibbling with your writing skills in general — you do a fine job.

Liem
16 years ago

Dictionary.com entry for the “Favorable”:
–adjective
1. characterized by approval or support; positive: a favorable report.
2.creating or winning favor; pleasing: to make a favorable impression.
3. affording advantage, opportunity, or convenience; advantageous: a favorable position.
4. (of an answer) granting what is desired.
5. boding well; propitious: The signs are favorable for a new start.

It looks like Carson was using 5th definition for “favorably” and Mark is referring to the 3rd. I don’t know if the prepositions make any difference–you may want to check the OED for that–but just from googling the the separate phrases “compares favorably to” and “compares favorably with”, I did notice that journalists tend to use “with” for the 5th definition, whereas they preferred “to” when they want to convey the 3rd definition.

Ari Collins
16 years ago

I think this might be something that’s changing. When I think about the individual words, it clearly means that one is favored over the other in a comparison. But I’ve mostly heard this used to say that two things are equivalent. And I think it’s moving in that direction.

Viva le evolucion.

Souldrummer
16 years ago

You fired up the way back machine for this one. Nice article.

Nostradamus
16 years ago

Halladay gets the win to send the series back to Philadelphia. You heard it here first.

Cheers,
Nostradamus

CC Sabathia
16 years ago
Reply to  Nostradamus

Good call Nostradamus.

Rory
16 years ago

Love the website….that analogy was a stretch…..Again….best website ever……you can come up with better than a sitcom nobody wants to remember from 20 years ago

Rally
16 years ago

Great article Carson. That brings me back. But leaves me wondering the extent that you understand Greg Evigan history in a baseball context. If a future article references BJ & the Bear then I will bow to your mastery.

Lucas Apostoleris
16 years ago

It’s nice to see someone mention the K-BB metric. It’s one of my favorites.

St. Heathen
16 years ago

By the way Halladay’s stat page on this site had him at 7.3 K/BB this year, not 6.3. So there’s a typo somewhere. His career number is 3.53, as compared to Lincecum’s 3.1, so they’re closer in that department in a bigger sample size than they were during 2010.

St. Heathen
16 years ago
Reply to  St. Heathen

And Halladay’s K/9-BB/9 for his career is 4.81 while Lincecum’s is 6.97.

Brian Cartwright
16 years ago

Staci Keenan, now age 35…hadn’t heard her name in years
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3133246976/nm0443824

Not David
16 years ago

What’s the NERD score for this game? 11 vs 11?