How Good Is Gio Gonzalez?
Yesterday, the Nationals gave up four prospects, including three of their top 10 guys, for the right to acquire Gio Gonzalez from the Oakland A’s. This follows on the heels of the Mat Latos trade, essentially establishing current market value for a young starting pitcher with four year of team control. However, with Latos, the only nitpicking you can do about his performance to date is that he’s pitched in Petco, because other than that, he’s been pretty fantastic. Gonzalez’s track record is a little more spotty, starting out poorly before turning in two good seasons the last couple of years, but maintaining a walk rate that’s among the very worst in baseball.
Even while succeeding, Gonzalez simply hasn’t shown much of an ability to throw strikes on a regular basis, and those command problems have drawn unfavorable comparisons to the likes of Oliver Perez and even my own analogy to Edinson Volquez. However, rather than just continuing to point out the flaw in Gonzalez’s skillset, I thought it’d be useful to look at this pitcher type in general.
So, using the sweet, sweet custom leaderboards here on FanGraphs, I compiled a list of all starting pitcher seasons over the last 10 years with a minimum of 100 innings pitched and then filtered by walk rate (>=10%), strikeout rate (>=20%), and ground ball rate (>=40%). The resulting list gave me 38 pitcher seasons from 25 different pitchers. We can safely say that these guys have produced results at one time or another in a pretty similar fashion to how Gonzalez has pitched over the last couple of years. Here’s the list of those pitcher seasons, sorted in alphabetic order.
Season | Name | Age | IP | BB% | K% | GB% | BABIP | ERA- | FIP- | xFIP- |
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2002 | A.J. Burnett | 25 | 204.1 | 10.7% | 24.1% | 42.8% | 0.266 | 84 | 79 | 90 |
2009 | A.J. Burnett | 32 | 207 | 10.8% | 21.8% | 42.8% | 0.295 | 88 | 95 | 96 |
2010 | Brandon Morrow | 25 | 146.1 | 10.5% | 28.3% | 40.4% | 0.342 | 108 | 75 | 83 |
2010 | Bud Norris | 25 | 153.2 | 11.3% | 23.1% | 43.0% | 0.314 | 124 | 106 | 99 |
2010 | C.J. Wilson | 29 | 204 | 10.9% | 20.0% | 49.2% | 0.266 | 77 | 81 | 97 |
2006 | Carlos Zambrano | 25 | 214 | 12.5% | 22.9% | 46.9% | 0.252 | 73 | 88 | 94 |
2009 | Carlos Zambrano | 28 | 169.1 | 10.6% | 20.7% | 44.7% | 0.300 | 86 | 82 | 99 |
2010 | Carlos Zambrano | 29 | 129.2 | 12.1% | 20.5% | 43.6% | 0.301 | 80 | 89 | 107 |
2007 | Chad Billingsley | 22 | 147 | 10.3% | 22.6% | 41.0% | 0.290 | 76 | 91 | 89 |
2009 | Chad Billingsley | 24 | 196.1 | 10.5% | 21.8% | 45.3% | 0.292 | 99 | 93 | 94 |
2009 | Chad Gaudin | 26 | 147.1 | 11.5% | 20.9% | 43.9% | 0.309 | 117 | 102 | 100 |
2008 | Clayton Kershaw | 20 | 107.2 | 11.1% | 21.3% | 48.0% | 0.320 | 102 | 96 | 91 |
2005 | Daniel Cabrera | 24 | 161.1 | 12.2% | 21.9% | 52.7% | 0.291 | 104 | 94 | 94 |
2006 | Daniel Cabrera | 25 | 148 | 15.7% | 23.7% | 40.7% | 0.309 | 103 | 92 | 102 |
2008 | Edinson Volquez | 24 | 196 | 11.1% | 24.6% | 46.3% | 0.299 | 73 | 81 | 89 |
2011 | Edinson Volquez | 27 | 108.2 | 13.3% | 21.3% | 52.4% | 0.293 | 145 | 135 | 106 |
2009 | Francisco Liriano | 25 | 136.2 | 10.7% | 20.0% | 40.2% | 0.319 | 132 | 112 | 101 |
2010 | Gio Gonzalez | 24 | 200.2 | 10.8% | 20.1% | 49.3% | 0.274 | 81 | 93 | 97 |
2011 | Gio Gonzalez | 25 | 202 | 10.5% | 22.8% | 47.5% | 0.287 | 79 | 93 | 92 |
2010 | Jhoulys Chacin | 22 | 137.1 | 10.5% | 23.7% | 46.6% | 0.285 | 74 | 81 | 91 |
2008 | John Maine | 27 | 140 | 11.0% | 20.1% | 40.6% | 0.266 | 100 | 104 | 102 |
2008 | Jonathan Sanchez | 25 | 158 | 10.8% | 22.6% | 41.1% | 0.317 | 116 | 89 | 95 |
2009 | Jonathan Sanchez | 26 | 163.1 | 12.4% | 24.9% | 40.7% | 0.276 | 103 | 100 | 98 |
2010 | Jonathan Sanchez | 27 | 193.1 | 11.8% | 25.3% | 41.5% | 0.252 | 78 | 102 | 99 |
2011 | Jonathan Sanchez | 28 | 101.1 | 14.9% | 23.0% | 42.4% | 0.272 | 114 | 114 | 113 |
2008 | Jorge de la Rosa | 27 | 130 | 10.9% | 22.4% | 45.7% | 0.319 | 105 | 86 | 93 |
2009 | Jorge de la Rosa | 28 | 185 | 10.4% | 24.2% | 44.7% | 0.308 | 95 | 84 | 87 |
2010 | Jorge de la Rosa | 29 | 121.2 | 10.7% | 22.1% | 52.3% | 0.278 | 95 | 98 | 91 |
2006 | Josh Johnson | 22 | 157 | 10.3% | 20.2% | 45.8% | 0.277 | 71 | 90 | 93 |
2009 | Justin Masterson | 24 | 129.1 | 10.6% | 21.0% | 53.6% | 0.314 | 99 | 90 | 91 |
2003 | Kerry Wood | 26 | 211 | 11.3% | 30.0% | 41.5% | 0.269 | 75 | 85 | 80 |
2010 | Manny Parra | 27 | 122 | 11.3% | 23.0% | 47.2% | 0.337 | 126 | 114 | 95 |
2004 | Rich Harden | 22 | 189.2 | 10.1% | 20.8% | 44.9% | 0.289 | 86 | 83 | 92 |
2005 | Scott Kazmir | 21 | 186 | 12.2% | 21.3% | 42.3% | 0.307 | 88 | 88 | 102 |
2007 | Scott Kazmir | 23 | 206.2 | 10.0% | 26.9% | 43.1% | 0.333 | 78 | 79 | 83 |
2007 | Tim Lincecum | 23 | 146.1 | 10.5% | 24.3% | 47.0% | 0.283 | 90 | 80 | 85 |
2010 | Ubaldo Jimenez | 26 | 221.2 | 10.3% | 23.9% | 48.8% | 0.271 | 65 | 71 | 90 |
2009 | Yovani Gallardo | 23 | 185.2 | 11.9% | 25.7% | 45.0% | 0.275 | 90 | 95 | 87 |
(By the way, that table is sortable, so you can click on any of the headers and see where Gonzalez’s seasons rank in the various categories.)
The first thing you may notice about these guys is their age – this is a very young skillset, with the average age of a pitcher posting this kind of season being 25.3 years old. In fact, A.J. Burnett’s 2009 season is the only example of a pitcher older than 30 meeting this criteria. The type of result is often the product of an inexperienced pitcher still trying to find command of his stuff, and as he gets older, that command generally improves.
In fact, if you’re a Nationals fan, you have to be excited about some of the names that show up here – Kershaw, Lincecum, Johnson, Jimenez, and Gallardo all posted similar seasons at one point in their career before turning one some of the best starting pitchers around. This is clearly the upside that the Nationals believe they’re getting – if Gonzalez does improve his command slightly while retaining his ability to miss bats and get ground balls, he has the chance of becoming one of the best pitchers in the league.
However, with the exception of Jimenez, none of those guys had the same long track record of walking guys as Gonzalez does. He’s consistently run walk rates north of 10%, even dating back to the minor leagues. This isn’t a new problem for him, and one that he hasn’t shown any real signs of improving on, even as the rest of his game has gotten better.
So, while one could focus on the “what if” upside, it’s more practical to look at Gonzalez’s command problems as something that are going to stick with him, and ask how good Washington can expect him to be if what they’ve seen is what they’re going to get. That brings up a very different set of comparables – Burnett, Billingsley, Zambrano, Cabrera, Volquez, Sanchez, and de la Rosa. These are all good stuff guys who never really conquered their command problems, and had to rely on strikeouts and ground balls to overcome all the walks.
If we just look at the career numbers for those guys (minus Volquez and Cabrera, who haven’t thrown enough innings to really be all that helpful as comparisons yet), we see a group that is a bit above average overall, mixing some really good seasons with some less great seasons into an overall package that is good but not great. Overall, these guys have posted +97.5 WAR in just under 6,000 career innings, or a total of about +2.9 WAR per 180 innings pitched.
Interestingly, all of these guys are also generally perceived as “headcases” or “bad makeup guys”. Gonzalez has also been described that way, and his attitude is often cited as one of the reasons he’s now been traded four times in his career. I don’t know which way causation flows here – whether guys with command problems are judged to have mental issues because of their command problems, or whether guys with makeup issues are more prone to missing the strike zone regularly – but it is worth noting that this pitcher type is often seen as one of the more frustrating in the sport.
Still, having the expectation of being a +3 win pitcher even without improvement, and the chance to be something more if the command comes along, makes for a pretty nice piece overall. While I’d prefer Latos’ overall skillset thanks to his ability to get swings and misses while pounding the strike zone, it’s clear that Gonzalez can succeed even while missing the strike zone with regularity. He might not be as good as the Nationals are hoping for, especially if they are buying into his ERAs from the past two seasons, but the ground balls and strikeouts do generally make up for the command issues. That flaw holds him back from being a great pitcher, but it shouldn’t stop him from being a pretty good one.
Did the Nationals get an ace? Probably not. Did they pay too much for Gonzalez? It depends on what you think of the kids they gave up. Overall, though, they did acquire a good starting pitcher, although they might want to realize that he’s going to provide some frustration over the next few years as well.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
I don’t think there’s ever been a problem with Gio’s attitude akin to a Zambrano or Burnett. From all accounts I’ve read he is a great clubhouse guy and I know him to be very well-liked and gracious to fans.
I think his “headcase” label derives more from what at times seems like visible frustration following an HR or something and then having trouble with command and having a bad pitch cascade into a bad inning.
Loved the analysis but think it is off the mark to say he ever has had an attitude problem.
Concur. Like many big leaguers, he has remarked that the trade rumors associated with his being traded multiple times has never been something that appealed to him. Not that Dave said this was it, but it could explain the relationship between his attitude and the number of times he has been traded. I don’t think expressing apprehension over constantly being on the move is at all unusual.
“I don’t think there’s ever been a problem with Gio’s attitude akin to a Zambrano”
This kind of goes without saying. Zambrano’s attitude has bordered on keeping him from playing major league baseball. That’s an insanely high bar to set when determining if a player has an attitude problem.
Burnett doesn’t have an attitude problem similar to Zambrano. He’s actually viewed quite positively in the club house with his teammates semingly rooting for him. His “head case” issue has more to do with how he pitches, never quite learn from his mistakes, or perhaps giving up too easily when things start to go south.
I wonder how much of the “head case” label gets attached to pitchers who, for whatever reason, walk too many hitters in their career. In other words, the mainstream media and fans complain about a pitcher’s inability to conquer the strike zone and label him a “head case” because it must be some sort of mental block (so the thinking goes) that prevents him from being able to throw strikes consistently.
I’m not talking about Zambrano, of course. He’s a headcase of a whole different dimension. But the others…I wonder if they’re not called “head cases” when there’s really nothing wrong with their personality or makeup, it’s just that they have a hard time throwing strikes. Matt Clement is another one who comes to mind in this mold.