How to Score Runs Off Noah Syndergaard
There’s a vestigial anchor from my baseball past that I drag around — it’s called Red Sox fandom, and it’s attached to a barely seaworthy vessel whose form is an email group of mainly older Boston fans. Most of the debates that happen on the email chain are really just individual manifestations of the argument surrounding process vs. outcome. Like a lot of traditionally-minded baseball fans, most of the members of the group are outcomes people, as baseball fans have been taught to be for the past 100-plus years — focusing on ERA, batting average, etc. I tend to find myself more on the process end of the spectrum, and lately I’ve been thinking about this debate as it relates to pitching — and especially as it relates to Noah Syndergaard.
You could argue that no one’s process is better than Syndergaard’s right now — and, most recently, Jeff Sullivan actually has argued that. If the goal of pitching is to limit base-runners — and thus limit runs — the right-hander is about as good as it gets. I like quick ERA estimators like strikeout- and walk-rate differential (K-BB%) partly because I’m lazy and partly because I think they’re nifty, and currently Syndergaard is second in K-BB%, which is the best quick ERA estimator we have. Strikeouts? Elite. Walks? Elite. Velocity? Arsenal? Unparalleled. The processes he’s taking to influence positive outcomes are second really only to Clayton Kershaw this season, and for the most part, he’s been rewarded for them. But there is one glaring issue he still has — laid bare in his past two starts — which we’ll get a lot of chances to see below.
All of that said, the main question we’re going to be answering today is: how does a team score runs off of Syndergaard? Every pitcher has to give up runs at some point, no matter how impressive their talent. Today, we engage in a fun exercise to examine those runs. So let’s go through a month’s worth of starts!
A primer for what we’re about to discuss: looking at Statcast data through Baseball Savant, Syndergaard has the lowest average exit velocity among pitchers with a minimum of 60 batted-ball events. Those events include both hits and outs, and it’s testament to the type of contact against him — and the frame for a lot of what we’ll be looking at today. Here’s a reminder of what exit velocity generally means for outcomes. Now let’s jump in, with the understanding that we’re going to skip over his first start of the season, as he didn’t give up any runs. Onward!
Start #2, 4/12/16, 1 ER: Derek Dietrich single. Exit velocity: 74 mph.
Derek Dietrich! This two-out, softly-hit single capped an inning that included three ground outs — one of which (which led off the inning) was overturned by review. Justin Bour singled on a 99 mph sinker with two outs to put men at first and second, and then Dietrich dumped a changeup into right field. Want to score a run off Syndergaard? Get a ground out overturned and then single him to death.
Start #3, 4/18/16, 1 ER: Odubel Herrera single. Exit velocity: 61 mph.
An exit velocity of 61 mph? This is where we mention Syndergaard’s 14th-highest BABIP among qualified starters, even if he could be a bit more prone to an elevated level due to his high ground-ball/low infield-fly rates so far this season. And, to be fair, Freddy Galvis hit a ringing double and stole third right before this at-bat. So let’s just forget about the weakly-hit single to score the run and focus on the stolen base — because as we’ll see, that’s the important takeaway from all this. Take a look:
The first few seconds are the telling ones: Galvis moves a few steps back toward second during Syndergaard’s brief check over the shoulder, then basically gets a running start to third, even before Syndergaard picks his leg up. From this example, it’s both a lack of attention and the relatively slow delivery that allows the stolen base — and subsequently the run. This would be the fourth and most meaningful stolen base of the year for Syndergaard up until that point, and it wouldn’t be his last — not by a long shot.
Start #4, 4/25/16, 3 ER, 5 Stolen Bases
It doesn’t take long for the book on someone to make the rounds, and by Syndergaard’s fourth start, the league had found what was really their only angle of attack against the young righty: steal, steal some more, and then hope someone can drive them in. And, against the Reds on April 25th, it almost worked! Here’s Billy Hamilton, after a bunt single to second base:
At the very start of the video, we can see Syndergaard check for a brief moment (he had already thrown over once), then it’s all eyes on the man at the plate. It’s an easy steal for a guy like Hamilton, and he doesn’t even wait for another pitch before he does this:
To be fair to Syndergaard, he had already faked back to second twice before this happened. But again, you can see the attention is more or less completely gone from the runner, and looking at it from this angle we can possibly make the argument that Hamilton could’ve gotten an even better jump than he did: he dances back toward second right before he takes off, possibly thinking Syndergaard might take a final look over his shoulder. The throw almost gets Hamilton but doesn’t, and Zack Cozart drives him in with a sac fly to center field.
Fast forward to the seventh inning, after the Reds had already stolen five bases in the preceding innings. On a 1-2 count, Tyler Holt somehow manages a single out of this swing he puts on this ball:
That ball left the bat at 70.6 mph, and, after one successful check on the runner, disaster struck:
In effect, Holt turned a ball he hit with a soggy newspaper into two bases. After Hamilton flew out, Cozart singled to drive in the run. A walk to Eugenio Suarez and another single by good baseball player Joey Votto later, and the game was tied. Though the Mets would go on to win 5-3, the Reds scored two runs off of Syndergaard in the seventh by simply making him uncomfortable with runners on base — by rattling him. Sure, any pitcher can make a throwing error on an attempted pickoff, but a guy who has already had five bases stolen against him during the game is probably more likely to do so.
Start #5, 5/1/16, 4 ER, 4 Stolen Bases
In Syndergaard’s fifth start, it was pretty clear what the Giants were going to do from the outset. Brandon Crawford swiped a bag in the third inning. Matt Duffy was taking preliminary leads this long in the fourth:

As you might imagine, that lead drew a throw that almost picked Duffy off, but the young third baseman was undeterred. He took a slightly longer lead, didn’t draw a throw, and went on first move — stealing the base easily. Posey was fortunate to single on the next pitch, given much he got jammed:
At this point in our video journey, I started noticing that a lot of the hits Syndergaard has given up this year have been, well, pretty poorly hit. Posey is a fantastic hitter, but what we see above is a cue shot, leaving the bat at just 81.1 mph. With that in mind, I calculated the average batted-ball exit velocity on hits given up by Syndergaard this season. It’s only 86.5 mph. Hitters batted .227 on balls hit between 85-89 mph last season, and 11 of the 28 hits against him in 2016 have been under 80 mph — where we see an almost total lack of extra-base potential.
For reference, the average exit velocity for all of Jake Arrieta’s batted balls against (including outs) is 86.7 mph. There’s more than just exit velocity to hitting, of course, and we’ve mentioned Syndergaard’s inflated BABIP already. But it’s good to remind ourselves that the Mets’ righty has given up the softest contact in baseball this season, and that extends into many of the rather unfortunate hits he’s given up.
Finally, there are a couple words to be said about the only home run Syndergaard has conceded this season. Following the Posey single above, Brandon Belt drove in a run on a ground out, bringing up Hunter Pence. On an 0-1 count, Pence did this:
If they gave out a yearly award for the most Hunter Penceish home run, this might win for 2016. A 98 mph four-seamer on the outside corner? Pence casually takes it out to right field. That got me thinking: when was the last time a right-handed hitter hit a pitch traveling at least 98 mph in that location out to right field? Using Baseball Savant, I found out there weren’t any in 2015, but Adam Jones did it in 2014, and Ryan Raburn did it in 2013. Before that, you have to go back to 2008, when Manny Ramirez accomplished the feat. We’re obviously narrowing our sample of pitchers down to a small subset by the velocity readings, but still: this is what homering off of Noah Syndergaard can take. We can say he could’ve been frazzled by the Giants running wild on the bases during this game (and the inning in question), but it still takes the extraordinary to do what Pence did.
Bringing everything together, most of what we’ve considered today is about one thing: base-runners. It seems like there’s dangerous territory for Syndergaard if he starts worrying too much about the running game. He doesn’t have a slide-step delivery, and adding one now seems like a risky play mechanics-wise just to hold a few more runners on base. Does Syndergaard need to improve with runners on base? Probably. In truth, for a lesser pitcher, this would be a much bigger deal. But Syndergaard strikes 30% of batters out; he could go the route of simply not caring too much about this issue. There’s a long and storied history of successful power pitchers allowing lots of stolen bases, and Syndergaard’s advantages are so great that they almost totally gloss over this weakness.
However, as we’ve seen above, sometimes it doesn’t matter how good most of your processes are — weaknesses invite exploitation, especially ones that so effectively turn one base into two, or three. Bloops and seeing-eye grounders happen to everyone. Broken-bat singles happen. Syndergaard needs to improve on controlling the running game, or teams will inevitably score runs through that weakness, regardless of how dominant he is otherwise.
We’ve answered our question, though, after all of this. How do you score runs off of Noah Syndergaard? Run for your life, and pray the guy behind you can put the bat on the ball.
Owen Watson writes for FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. Follow him on Twitter @ohwatson.
what do you make of his relatively high HR rate that’s followed him around so far?
MLB: 0.99hr/9
AAA: 0.72hr/9
AA: 1.33hr/9
After pence’s home run the giants’ announcers ointed out that to hit a homer against him you don’t have to hardly swing at all, if you can manage to make decent contact you’ve got a good chance.
Yeah, but the same could be said for any guy that throws 96 consistently. Randy Johnson gave up .89 HR/9 for his career, but didn’t seem to hurt him.
Speed of the pitch is a relatively small portion of exit velocity or batted ball distance, per Alan Nathan. You still have to put a good swing and square it up.
After starting the anointed leaders such huge problems will not fly against him rare game, if you can make contact with a lot of you, I have a good chance.
Well, the Mets AAA team is in Vegas, which is a crazy hitters park.
The AA sample is just 50 innings.
His MLB numbers this year are .28 HR/9. Last year I would chalk up to being a rookie, and inexperience.
Indeed. He has a brief bout of homeritis last year, and it was primarily d’Arnaud’s pitch selection. It’s been fixed and hopefully that rate will stay low.
Is the problem that he’s just not used to allowing many baserunners, that the odd time someone gets on base he forgets they’re there?
The problem seems to be that he’s just terrible at holding runners on, can’t disguise a pickoff at all, and takes a huge amount of time to deliver the ball to the plate. The giants who stole against him aren’t normally base stealers, they have almost none this year, the game was played in a rainstorm that made the field muddy and difficult to run on, and they still all stole the base easily, practically standing up.
I would like to see that as his response when asked postgame about a giving up a run.
Actually he gave up 4 runs in 5.2 innings.
I was speaking of a hypothetical, not of this specific instance. There was no heretical comment about the Giants, John. You may relax, if possible.
You missed another related point about the game last sunday–on belt’s groundout which drove in duffy, the giants started posey, their slowest runner. Belt’s grounder would have been a double play ending the inning if poset hadn’t been running. If you have a good enough contact team you can start runners with impunity against syndergaard no matter who’s on base and who’s batting.
And with the kind of stuff Syndergaard has, piecing together runs this way just has that much more value. So if you have good contact guys you absolutely should be aggressive on the basepaths.
(Wish I could have posted this as “Ned Yost”)
Hardly with impunity. Against the high-contact Giants, Syndergaard retired 6 on strikes in 5 2/3 innings. Nobody is really a high contact team against Syndergaard. KC? 9 k’s in 6 innings.
What I don’t understand is why they don’t try pitching out. His control is phenomenal, so an extra ball shouldn’t be so bad. He can gun the ball straight to the catcher at like 97 MPH, so the catcher can just gun it to 2nd base.
What’s the success rate on correctly timed pitchouts?
In the game i saw it wouldn’t have mattered. Everyone got such a jump they would have stolen easily even against a pitchout.
Pitch outs don’t improve his time to the plate, which is what matters most for base stealers.
I would suggest if the call was a pitchout, his windup would be less deliberate, and the time to the plate would be much shorter
masturbating to noah syndergaard by owen watson
Randy Johnson also gave up a lot of SB and finally got to the point where he didn’t let it bother him and that’s when he REALLY took off. One of my favorite RJ memories is the time he was pitching, man on 1st. Runner goes, no swing, Damian Miller comes up FIRING down to 2nd. . . . .and Johnson was so oblivious to the runner that he snagged Miller’s throw down. Just had no idea and is grumbling because it was a ball. Then gets back up on the rubber and looks for the sign. Miller is standing there kind of stunned and finally just gets back down and gives the sign.
Since people have caught on syndergaard is giving up like .7 stolen bases an inning, and that doesn’t count hit-and-runs. Things never got that out of hand with johnson.
Hasn’t the ‘since people have caught on’ thing been about 2 starts? Are you sure Johnson didn’t give up a bunch of stolen bases in consecutive starts?
I just meant that the present situation clearly isn’t something that syndergaard can just ignore.
I don’t think Randy Johnson allowed multiple baserunners in consecutive starts once he became Randy Johnson
I tried to find a video of this, but was unsuccessful. That sounds like something that would be interesting to watch.
A fine example of what makes Fangraphs great.
On the SNY broadcast of the Reds or Giants game Ron Darling said that Noah has a flaw that indicates whether he is going to first or home but didn’t want to reveal what it was basically because he is in the employ of the Mets. He added the flaw would be readily picked up by ML teams but is easily correctable.
A tell would make the most sense. I get being aggressive on the bases, but runners have been almost suicidal on their leads and jumps against him this season. In the videos above, Duffy especially exhibits it: after one throw-over, Duffy takes a massive lead, digs his drive foot into the dirt, and is off on first move. Seems like he knew.
He also said — as this piece conjectures — that apart from whatever the tell is, he wouldn’t suggest Syndergaard should bother making any mechanical adjustments, rather than just living with the stolen bases while continuing to pitch as well as he is. Maybe Ron Darling needs a FanGraphs blog.
That looks crazy to me. You can’t just give everyone on the other team a free pass to 3rd every time they get on.
Cool, guess that’s settled, then
Tell that to jon Lester, he can’t even throw to 1st.
Yep, I remember the wildcard game he pitched vs. KC in 2014, it was pathetic, they ran him ragged.
Also, as a Mets diehard, it has to be said, the Mets infield defense is ah… not good. Feels like with all those weak grounders Noah induces, a team with a plus defensive SS and 2B would just dominate.
I especially like how it all gets boiled down to the last sentence. It’s basically the same strategy for surviving a certainly impending alien invasion: RUN AND PRAY.
I couldn’t even get past the Deitrich RBI without thinking about Giancarlo running around third with a Chewbacca mask on.