Yankees Reportedly Go Shopping From Red Sox Wish List

The Red Sox need a third baseman — at least, if they’re not going to give Rafael Devers a shot, like I think they should — and maybe some more relief help. This isn’t any kind of secret. Dave Dombrowski is even openly talking about it. And Todd Frazier, a walk-year player on a team trading everything that isn’t nailed down, was an obvious fit. He’d have been a fit if they wanted to keep the spot open for Devers, since he could have played some first base too, potentially giving them an upgrade over Mitch Moreland if Devers came up and mashed.

Like every other contender, they could also use another reliever or two. Their bullpen has been good so far, but also heavily worked, and no one every really has enough good bullpen arms. The White Sox were also selling good relievers, including a young controllable arm that Jeff just wrote up today. A deal between the two Sox franchises seemed like an obvious fit.

So, of course, the Yankees are apparently getting in the way, and according to reports, are closing on a deal for Frazier, David Robertson, and Tommy Kahnle.

Chase Headley has been decent enough at third base that Frazier would probably play first base in New York, or at least give them options to run some platoons at the corner infield spots with Frazier bouncing between the two spots. But for New York, this is probably more about getting two more good arms for a bullpen that has been pretty lousy so far, and then keeping Frazier away from their division rival because why not?

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Given what Ryan Madson and Sean Doolittle cost, I’d imagine this trio is going to fetch a decent return, depending on how much of Robertson’s salary the Yankees are picking up. If they’re absorbing all of the ~$18 million he’s owed through next season, that might lighten the package a bit, but Kahnle was likely going to cost a lot, given his dominance this season and remaining years of control. Odds are the Yankees simply outbid the Red Sox, and I wouldn’t be surprised if making sure the Red Sox didn’t get better easily was at least partly about the reason the Yankees got involved here.

Since the deal isn’t yet done, we don’t know what price New York is paying, but I certainly wouldn’t want to try and come back against this potential bullpen in October. Kahnle, Robertson, Dellin Betances, and Aroldis Chapman would be a pretty rough group to try and score off of.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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mattMember since 2023
9 years ago

I like how this deal basically being a done deal was reported bit more than a hour ago. And zero credible reporters have reported which prospects are going to the white sox

mattMember since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  matt

My pure guess is 2 or maybe even 3 of: Rutherford, Mateo, Fowler, Florial, Andujar, Adams. 1 of Dillon Tate/James Kaprielian. Abreu or Acevedo. And before you Rutherford truthers come at me, please look at his power output as a future COF without plus speed and explain to me why he should be untouchable

fuster
9 years ago
Reply to  matt

it wont be Rutherford, Adams or Mateo

mattMember since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  fuster

Well you look to be wrong as Rutherford is in the deal it appears

Jorge FabregasMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  matt
mattMember since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  Jorge Fabregas

IMO if Yankees get off sending just Rutherford among their “top” prospects that’s a win for them

mikejuntMember
9 years ago

This logic is exactly why it’s bizzare to me that the Dodgers couldn’t beat the highly questionable return the Tigers are getting for JD Martinez when Arizona is probably the team they’re most likely to play in the LDS.

piddy
9 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

You have to wonder how much shopping Detroit did to see if others could beat that offer

Johnston
9 years ago
Reply to  piddy

I am sure that a Dodgers offer would have badly beaten that crummy return the Tigers actually got.

Dave Stewart
9 years ago
Reply to  piddy

They probly just went by alphabetical order, and Arizona with an A was first.

LHPSU
9 years ago
Reply to  Dave Stewart

I presume that’s why you made all those trades with Atlanta, Dave.

Ruben Amaro Jr.
9 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

That, plus he’s a dumbass.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago

Clarkin, Rutherford and spare parts, apparently.

Rutherford’s a good get for the Sox…and the Yankees have an embarrassment of OF riches now and for the foreseeable future.

Seems like a good deal for both sides, even as having to give something up for Kahnle must rankle Cashman’s ego.

JS7
9 years ago

Yankees want all the Fraziers.

Paul22
9 years ago

Given Fraziers career 2nd half splits there is a bit of a risk but he is still an upgrade. Not sure YS3 is the best park for him.

Rutherford was the 4th pre-season ranked prospect for the Yankees although his stock may have slipped this year and there were high expectations for Clarkin before injuries.

This deal is as much about a salary dump as prospects. Yankees one ofcthe few teams that could absorb both Frazier and D-Robs salary Red Sox only had 9 million to spend for 2017.

Red Sox may be better off as they can try Devers at 3B. They may want a 1B/ DH type like Morales or Trumbo to bolster what they are getting out of 1B/DH but will need the Orioles or Jays to kick in some money. There are other arms available and the price may drop as we close in on the deadline

Twitchy
9 years ago
Reply to  Paul22

I would love for the Red Sox to be stupid enough to trade for Morales.

Doorknob11
9 years ago
Reply to  Paul22

Doing so would put Hanley back at first and I don’t know if you’d wish that kind of evil on somebody.

Mahoney
9 years ago

As a Red Sox fan, I hope we can get Solarte to plug in 3B for this season. A.J. Preller owes us one, IMHO 😉

Dooduh
9 years ago

Looks like the Yankees didn’t read your column that said they were on the fence…

LHPSU
9 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Neither Robertson nor Kahnle are rentals, so they’re not exactly selling away the future.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

Yeah, this is very much the “careful buyer” mentality that Cashman mentioned.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago

The Sox will promote Devers when they feel he’s ready, and not before.

As they damn well should.