KATOH’s 2017 Top-100 Prospects

It’s that time of the year again. Baseball America recently published their top-100-prospects list, as have Baseball Prospectus, Keith Law and MLB Pipeline. Eric Longenhagen will be putting out his top-100 this spring, too. Below, you’ll find my KATOH projection system’s take on baseball’s most promising rookie-eligible players.

As usual, hitters far outnumber pitchers on these lists, by about three to one. The reason for this, I think, is two-fold. Primarily, it’s just that even the best pitching prospects are risky. They get hurt; they lose velocity; they move to bullpen — all with little notice. Even the pitchers who do pan out are less likely to sustain their success over several years than their hitting counterparts. Secondly, KATOH does not directly account for pitchers’ velocity (or any other measure of “stuff”). If I were able to include a measure of fastball velocity, for example, I imagine most of the top pitching prospects would project more favorably. There isn’t an obvious scouting analogue for hitters that is glaringly omitted by the numbers.

The first top-100 list ranks prospects by KATOH+, which takes into account players’ performance, age, height and ranking on traditional prospect lists. This is the more “accurate” version of KATOH. As it did previously, this incorporates a player’s rank on Baseball America’s top-100 list. However, this version also folds in Eric Longenhagen’s FV ranking for the players who weren’t ranked by Baseball America, ensuring borderline top-100 guys aren’t dinged as hard as non-prospects.

The second list is the old, “stats only” version of KATOH, that doesn’t account for any sort of scouting. This is an obvious flaw, as there’s a reason people in the industry always say “don’t scout the stat line.” But by considering the stats exclusively, this version is 100% objective. And since it doesn’t downgrade prospects who lack scouting pedigree, it’s good for identifying statistical standouts who have gone unnoticed.

All players with at least 200 plate appearance or batters faced in the minors last year qualify. Enjoy!

(Note: Mark Karaviotis originally appeared due to a coding error. KATOH thinks he’s interesting — 2.2 WAR on both versions — but he’s not a top-100 guy.)

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KATOH+ Top-100 Prospects
Rank Name Team Pos WAR thru First 6 Seasons
1 Andrew Benintendi Red Sox OF 19.2
2 Vladimir Guerrero Blue Jays 3B 18.9
3 Dansby Swanson Braves SS 16.3
4 Austin Meadows Pirates CF 15.4
5 J.P. Crawford Phillies SS 14.6
6 Manuel Margot Padres CF 14.6
7 Yoan Moncada White Sox 2B/3B 13.8
8 Ozzie Albies Braves 2B 13.4
9 Cody Bellinger Dodgers 1B/OF 12.7
10 Kyle Tucker Astros OF 11.6
11 Nick Senzel Reds 3B 11.0
12 Victor Robles Nationals CF 10.7
13 Gleyber Torres Yankees SS 10.5
14 Willy Adames Rays SS 10.4
15 Amed Rosario Mets SS 10.2
16 Jake Bauers Rays 1B/OF 9.9
17 Alex Reyes Cardinals RHP 9.9
18 Eloy Jimenez Cubs LF 9.4
19 Rafael Devers Red Sox 3B 9.3
20 Franklin Barreto Athletics SS 9.3
21 Thomas Szapucki Mets LHP 9.0
22 Mickey Moniak Phillies CF 8.9
23 Tyler O’Neill Mariners OF 8.8
24 Bradley Zimmer Indians CF 8.6
25 Josh Bell Pirates 1B 8.4
26 Dylan Cozens Phillies RF 8.2
27 Alex Verdugo Dodgers CF 8.1
28 Jose De Leon Rays RHP 8.0
29 Triston Mckenzie Indians RHP 8.0
30 Tyler Glasnow Pirates RHP 7.9
31 Lewis Brinson Brewers CF 7.9
32 Michael Kopech White Sox RHP 7.9
33 Raimel Tapia Rockies OF 7.5
34 Josh Hader Brewers LHP 7.4
35 Garrett Stubbs Astros C 7.3
36 Jesse Winker Reds RF 7.2
37 Francis Martes Astros RHP 7.2
38 Lucas Giolito White Sox RHP 7.0
39 Matt Chapman Athletics 3B 6.7
40 A.J. Reed Astros 1B 6.7
41 Franklin Perez Astros RHP 6.6
42 Luke Weaver Cardinals RHP 6.5
43 Kevin Newman Pirates SS 6.5
44 Brandon Nimmo Mets CF 6.5
45 Clint Frazier Yankees RF 6.5
46 Dan Vogelbach Mariners 1B 6.2
47 German Marquez Rockies RHP 6.2
48 Ramon Laureano Astros CF 6.2
49 Tyler Beede Giants RHP 6.0
50 Isaac Paredes Cubs SS 5.8
51 Casey Gillaspie Rays 1B 5.8
52 Aaron Judge Yankees RF 5.8
53 Brent Honeywell Rays RHP 5.7
54 Mike Soroka Braves RHP 5.6
55 Zack Granite Twins CF 5.6
56 David Paulino Astros RHP 5.6
57 Willie Calhoun Dodgers 2B 5.5
58 Luis Arraez Twins 2B 5.5
59 Reynaldo Lopez White Sox RHP 5.5
60 Kolby Allard Braves LHP 5.4
61 Francisco Mejia Indians C 5.4
62 Luis Urias Padres 2B 5.4
63 Derek Fisher Astros CF 5.3
64 Chance Sisco Orioles C 5.3
65 Andrew Toles Dodgers OF 5.2
66 Gavin Cecchini Mets SS 5.2
67 Mitch Keller Pirates RHP 5.2
68 John Schuknecht Angels OF 5.1
69 Dustin Fowler Yankees CF 5.1
70 Alec Hansen White Sox RHP 5.0
71 Albert Almora Cubs CF 5.0
72 Jonathan Holder Yankees RHP 4.9
73 Jack Flaherty Cardinals RHP 4.8
74 Jeff Hoffman Rockies RHP 4.8
75 Keibert Ruiz Dodgers C 4.7
76 Jeimer Candelario Cubs 3B 4.7
77 Anderson Espinoza Padres RHP 4.6
78 Dominic Smith Mets 1B 4.6
79 Rowdy Tellez Blue Jays 1B 4.6
80 Ben Gamel Mariners OF 4.4
81 Ian Happ Cubs 2B 4.4
82 Mark Zagunis Cubs LF 4.4
83 Mitch Haniger Mariners OF 4.3
84 Max Moroff Pirates IF 4.3
85 Teoscar Hernandez Astros RF 4.2
86 Bruce Maxwell Athletics C 4.2
87 Leody Taveras Rangers OF 4.2
88 Charlie Tilson White Sox OF 4.2
89 Hunter Dozier Royals 3B 4.2
90 Daniel Robertson Rays SS 4.2
91 Stephen Gonsalves Twins LHP 4.2
92 Yadier Alvarez Dodgers RHP 4.2
93 Jose Antequera Phillies 2B 4.1
94 Austin Barnes Dodgers C 4.1
95 Boog Powell Mariners OF 4.1
96 Yohander Mendez Rangers LHP 4.0
97 Adalberto Mejia Twins LHP 4.0
98 Reese Mcguire Blue Jays C 4.0
99 Brock Stewart Dodgers RHP 4.0
100 Edwin Rios Dodgers 1B/3B 3.9

And here’s the “stats only” version.

KATOH Top-100 Prospects
Rank Name Team Pos WAR thru First 6 Seasons
1 Dylan Cozens Phillies RF 13.8
2 Manuel Margot Padres CF 13.5
3 Vladimir Guerrero Blue Jays 3B 12.5
4 Austin Meadows Pirates CF 12.4
5 Jake Bauers Rays 1B/OF 11.5
6 J.P. Crawford Phillies SS 11.4
7 Andrew Benintendi Red Sox OF 11.4
8 Ozzie Albies Braves 2B 11.1
9 Cody Bellinger Dodgers 1B/OF 10.5
10 Garrett Stubbs Astros C 10.0
11 Kyle Tucker Astros OF 9.6
12 Luis Arraez Twins 2B 9.4
13 Tyler O’Neill Mariners OF 9.4
14 Thomas Szapucki Mets LHP 9.4
15 Matt Chapman Athletics 3B 8.6
16 Alex Verdugo Dodgers CF 8.5
17 Dansby Swanson Braves SS 8.3
18 Franklin Barreto Athletics SS 8.1
19 Bradley Zimmer Indians CF 8.0
20 Victor Robles Nationals CF 7.4
21 Brandon Nimmo Mets CF 7.4
22 Derek Fisher Astros CF 7.3
23 Zack Granite Twins CF 7.2
24 Jesse Winker Reds RF 7.2
25 Dan Vogelbach Mariners 1B 7.0
26 Edwin Rios Dodgers 1B/3B 7.0
27 Raimel Tapia Rockies OF 7.0
28 Michael Kopech White Sox RHP 6.8
29 Gavin Cecchini Mets SS 6.7
30 Ramon Laureano Astros CF 6.7
31 Willy Adames Rays SS 6.7
32 Josh Bell Pirates 1B 6.6
33 Triston Mckenzie Indians RHP 6.6
34 Josh Hader Brewers LHP 6.5
35 Gleyber Torres Yankees SS 6.5
36 Yoan Moncada White Sox 2B/3B 6.5
37 Jose De Leon Rays RHP 6.5
38 Max Moroff Pirates IF 6.4
39 Amed Rosario Mets SS 6.3
40 Tyler Glasnow Pirates RHP 6.3
41 Ben Gamel Mariners OF 6.3
42 Andrew Toles Dodgers OF 6.2
43 Isaac Paredes Cubs SS 6.2
44 Alex Reyes Cardinals RHP 6.2
45 Dustin Fowler Yankees CF 6.0
46 Rafael Devers Red Sox 3B 6.0
47 Rowdy Tellez Blue Jays 1B 5.9
48 Luis Urias Padres 2B 5.9
49 Lewis Brinson Brewers CF 5.8
50 Willie Calhoun Dodgers 2B 5.8
51 Casey Gillaspie Rays 1B 5.7
52 Austin Slater Giants OF 5.7
53 Aaron Judge Yankees RF 5.7
54 Rhys Hoskins Phillies 1B 5.7
55 Charlie Tilson White Sox OF 5.7
56 Jonathan Holder Yankees RHP 5.7
57 Luke Weaver Cardinals RHP 5.7
58 Eloy Jimenez Cubs LF 5.6
59 Tyler Beede Giants RHP 5.6
60 Boog Powell Mariners OF 5.6
61 Clint Frazier Yankees RF 5.5
62 A.J. Reed Astros 1B 5.5
63 Alec Hansen White Sox RHP 5.4
64 Harrison Bader Cardinals OF 5.4
65 Reese Mcguire Blue Jays C 5.4
66 Samir Duenez Royals 1B 5.3
67 David Paulino Astros RHP 5.3
68 Rio Ruiz Braves 3B 5.3
69 Albert Almora Cubs CF 5.3
70 German Marquez Rockies RHP 5.3
71 Jack Flaherty Cardinals RHP 5.2
72 Kevin Newman Pirates SS 5.1
73 Matt Olson Athletics 1B 5.1
74 Mark Zagunis Cubs LF 5.0
75 Teoscar Hernandez Astros RF 5.0
76 Stephen Gonsalves Twins LHP 5.0
77 Jeimer Candelario Cubs 3B 5.0
78 Mauricio Dubon Brewers SS 5.0
79 Chance Sisco Orioles C 4.9
80 Alen Hanson Pirates 2B 4.9
81 Mitch Haniger Mariners OF 4.9
82 Lucas Giolito White Sox RHP 4.8
83 Nick Senzel Reds 3B 4.8
84 Daniel Robertson Rays SS 4.7
85 Yohander Mendez Rangers LHP 4.7
86 John Schuknecht Angels OF 4.7
87 Hunter Dozier Royals 3B 4.6
88 Michael De Leon Rangers SS 4.5
89 Francis Martes Astros RHP 4.5
90 Dominic Smith Mets 1B 4.5
91 Yusniel Diaz Dodgers OF 4.5
92 Nick Delmonico White Sox 1B/3B 4.4
93 Adalberto Mejia Twins LHP 4.4
94 Bruce Maxwell Athletics C 4.4
95 Matthew Gage Giants LHP 4.4
96 Austin Barnes Dodgers C 4.4
97 Andrew Stevenson Nationals OF 4.4
98 Keibert Ruiz Dodgers C 4.4
99 Brock Stewart Dodgers RHP 4.3
100 Andrew Aplin Astros OF 4.3





Chris works in economic development by day, but spends most of his nights thinking about baseball. He writes for Pinstripe Pundits, FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. He's also on the twitter machine: @_chris_mitchell None of the views expressed in his articles reflect those of his daytime employer.

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JimboMember since 2016
9 years ago

Wow that’s a hell of a projection for the 17 year old Vlad Jr (btw, the name currently links to his dad).

Damaso
9 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

fyi last time a super young jay popped up at the top of this list was Osuna, though in a much tinier sample. katoh still saw him coming.

eph_unitMember since 2016
9 years ago

surprised to see no Travis Demeritte

PlatypiMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  eph_unit

When Chris ran him back in August he projected for 1.4 WAR through KATOH and 1.2 WAR through KATOH+

victorvran
9 years ago

Seeing Alex Reyes that high surprises me, I’m gonna assume this isn’t taking his 1-2 years of service well recovering from surgery into account in that projection?

hypnotoad
9 years ago

John Schuknecht?

matteosox
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Wow, I couldn’t find a single prospect list he’s even mentioned in… Just curious, why is it that he’s higher with KATOH+? Given he’s not on any Top 100 lists (or any lists for that matter…), I’d expect him to be lower, not higher, right?

Enlightening RoundMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  matteosox

He’s not even listed in BA’s top 30 or on their minor league depth chart that reaches even further

Uncle RicoMember since 2017
9 years ago

So the only Angels prospect to crack the list was a 37th round pick from last year? Hope he pans out…it is going to be a long few (many?) years in Los Angeles of Anaheim.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago

I love it when there’s a list that comes up with totally different names. Dylan Cozens, Jake Bauers, Garrett Stubbs, Luis Arraez, Edwin Rios, Ramon Laureano, Max Moroff, Isaac Paredes, Rowdy Tellez, Casey Gillaspie, Austin Slater, Mark Karaviotis, Jonathan Holder, Samir Duenez, John Schuknecht… Of all those, the only one that surprises me is Chapman–isn’t he the archetype of the type of prospect that KATOH doesn’t like?

HughesMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Rowdy Tellez is getting some buzz with Jays news. Maybe just maybe hinted at for later in the year.

rydrury
9 years ago

Katoh loves Jonathan Holder. I think the Yankees would be thrilled if he put up either WAR as a reliever

Joey Butts
9 years ago

I’m relieved to see Aaron Judge’s rankings, here. His stock is way down after doing poorly in MLB last year. But if the system that is all about the actual results remains at least pretty high on him, then the reaction was probably too severe.

Joey Butts
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

I see. Thanks!

settenson23Member since 2020
9 years ago

I’m curious to know more about Mark Karaviotis. I havent seen him on any prospect lists for the Dbacks and definetely want to know why you are so high in him.

jrubyMember since 2026
9 years ago

Who is Jose Antequera? I’m a Phillies fan and had never heard of him. Not on Eric’s Top 33 Phillies list… (and not in the other 20 prospects of note, and, most importantly, not Cistulli’s Guy…) I guess I’m just a little… surprised. I mean, looking at his stats… that can’t be right, can it?

That being said, glad to see KATOH’s still the conductor on the Dylan Cozens train!

jrubyMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Great answer, thanks!

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago

Matt Chapman seems high, considering the combination of swing and miss and a low BABIP.

Towel
9 years ago

Best 3b defender in pro baseball probably helps.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Towel

What does Manny Machado have to do with this article?

TrevorCap
9 years ago

In all seriousness, Clay Davenport has Chapman as being very comparable to Machado defensively at 3B. He’s the real deal with the leather. Question with him is just if he can make enough contact to be successful with the bat.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  TrevorCap

Don’t Davenport’s metrics tell us that Chapman is nearly as much better than the average AA 3B as Manny Machado is the average MLB 3B?

Davenport’s 2017 defensive projection for Chapman is just 6 FRAA (equivalent to Jose Ramirez), as opposed to 7 for Machado…and 10 for Seager and Arenado.

Which is really good! But not enough to carry a guy who couldn’t hit .245 as a 23 year old in AA, while whiffing more than Chris Carter did at the same level.

Anyway, does he construct these stats with BIS stringer data for every MiLB game? Or does Chris just use them for KATOH because they’re the only data available?

Genuinely curious.

Towel
9 years ago

Couple of things to unpack here:

Carter’s MiLB k rate hovered between 20 and 25%. His absolute lowest was the 20.1 in AA which immediately rebounded to the 25% it had been previously. So yes Chapman struck out more than Carter did during the season with his career best K Rate, but that year was an outlier for Carter. But considering K rates are up pretty significantly from 7 years ago and the fact that Chapman’s K rate was buyoued by a really bad May (40%!) But from July on it was 24.7. I’d call it a wash.

Secondly, all parks aren’t created equal and Midland (and even more so in Nashville) have seemed to suppress players who hit for power to RC and RF. And a look at his spray chart for last year certainly makes it seem like he had an abnormally large amount of fly outs at the warning track in RC and RF. Now while I don’t think Chapman’s going to hit for a high average, I think the .245 had more to do with the park than ability.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Towel

Meanwhile,Chris Carter’s K% at the same age “from July on” was 21.5%…in AAA

And what do you blame for his .250 AVG as a 22 year old in the Cal League?

Or the .237 AVG as a 21 year old in Low-A?

I’d be much more inclined to believe in Midland’s being to blame for his low average if Chapman had ever hit more than .250, at any level.

Towel
9 years ago

I’d say that 200 PAs in low A doesn’t really tell me anything and .250 is fine as long as he continues he’s to maintain a +90 OBP and hit for power.

Again, strikeouts are up just a tad from 7 years ago.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Towel

You’re right. “Just a tad” is an accurate way to describe the 2.6% increase in average MLB K-rate over the last 7 years, when compared to the difference between Carter and Chapman.

2010 wasn’t 2004 — it’s the year offense dropped off league-wide.

Also…hitting .250 in the Cal League as a 22 year old out of D1 really isn’t an indicator of being able to hit .250 in the MLB.

Towel
9 years ago

You seem overly concerned with his batting average. As long as his OBP stays north of .315 or so and he continues slugging around 500 I don’t really see the issue here.

WRC+ is league adjusted and in Stockton he was 139. Midland 141. Combine that with Gold Glove defense (Sickels: “Chapman may be the best 3b glove I’ve ever seen) it not hard to see why KATOH liked him so much.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Towel

If he can’t hit .220, his OBP won’t stay north of .315, and he won’t slug around .500.

Not sure why you have so much trouble understanding that…

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago

One thing I’ve noticed is that scouts are really skeptical of Phillies AA prospects. Hoskins and Cozens had crazy numbers there, but how well does the park factor for that stadium represent the power spikes there? If the park factor for that stadium is off (and I assume there’s a park factor input for KATOH) then it might explain why KATOH thinks Cozens is the next home run king.

BrockWasOverrated
9 years ago

OK, I’m a life-long Cubs fan and I read several Cubs blogs on a regular basis. So yes, I’ve heard of Isaac Paredes before, and I know that the organization thinks he’s got some nice upside potential. But I haven’t seen anyone that even lists him in the Cubs top 10 (MLBPipeline has him at number 19, and Eric Longenhagen has him at 17). So … to see him in MLB’s top 50 on both of your lists was a bit of shock. Seriously, I hope the guy goes golden and makes you look like a genius, but he’s got barely 200 PAs combined in Rookie and Low-A (mostly Rookie) with a slash line of .296/.350/.425 – that’s nice, but you’re packing a whole lot of projection into a #43 KATOH rank, and I just don’t get how KATOH+ doesn’t ding him more for not even sniffing a baseball-wide ranking.

BrockWasOverrated
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Oh yeah, he’s definitely a legitimate prospect. And at his age he could definitely still develop into a useful or even good major leaguer. But #2 in the Cubs organization ahead of guys who are already so close to contributing at the major league level like Happ, Almora, Candelario, and Zagunis …? At this point those guys all have a floor of at least a cup of coffee in The Show – Paredes has several years of possibly flaming out before he gets there. By way of illustration, Almora already has .9 fWAR. As much as I’d like to be wrong, at this point I’m not sure that I’d take the over on Paredes even exceeding Almora’s current career totals.

But bottom line, I’d love for you to be a genius 🙂

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago

Happ strikes out a lot, Almora was just average at the plate in the minors, Zagunis is 24, Candelario is slow, and Paredes is really young and KATOH loves youth.

SenorGato
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Paredes was also unusually good especially at things KATOH likes. The only thing dragging down his line is the showing at SB where he still only struck out 2 times in 13 PAs as a 17 YO. He hit for above average power in the AZL where the league ISO was .108, hit for average, didn’t strike out, even stole some bases and took some walks….His age 17 in the AZL was stronger than Torres’ offensively, and Torres is a strong SS/MIF prospect.

BrockWasOverrated
9 years ago
Reply to  SenorGato

All true. But as Chris said, his ranking still feels weird.

BTW, interestingly enough, Torres’s post AZL KATOH in 2015 was 10.6 which placed him 10th overall.

SenorGato
9 years ago

Paredes’ AZL tour was better than Torres’, but Torres went to Eugene and picked up 6 XBHs in 32 PAs, including a HR. That probably explains the difference.

BrockWasOverrated
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If I understand it correctly, KATOH is supposed to run like a life insurance pricing algorithm: given person X at age Y with baseline circumstances Z, you figure out how likely is the person to die at any given age through the term of the policy, and then add premium payments to hopefully ensure that on average the insurance company comes out ahead. For example, when comparing life insurance for a 20 year old healthy kid and a 50 year old smoker, the premiums over time for the 50 year-old are adjusted upwards to compensate for his likely poor health, but relatively speaking, the 20 year old kid still gets dinged for the fact that he may die in a car crash before he reaches 50.

In this context, the point is that Paredes could still check out any time between Short Season and AAA – and probably will. OTOH, Happ, Almora, Candelario and Zagunis have already passed that point and have a far greater chance of ever reaching the majors. KATOH is basically telling us that that in order to compensate for the extra time and development that it’ll take for Paredes to get to the majors, his upside is better than that of anyone else in the organization – not just better, but significantly better. I find that hard to believe (but I’d be overjoyed if true).

Please note, I’m not trying to point out how wonderful the other four are (or Jiminez for that matter, who raw KATOH still rates below Paredes), but just how surprising it is that Paredes is rated so highly based on so little performance data. As it is, as far as I can tell, he only had 198 PAs in his debut last season, so I’m not even sure why he’s on this list at all.

While we are at it, regarding a couple of your specific points: If Almora can be average at the plate in the majors, then he will far exceed his KATOH projections with defense alone. And if the worst thing you can say about a corner infielder is that he’s slow, then he must be a really good player.

Moranall
9 years ago

In the top prospects posts, Anthony Banda was given a 4.3 KATOH+ and he’s at the top of my Dbacks prospects lists and in a couple top 100s. Not enough to make it here?

TKDCMember since 2016
9 years ago

If traditional prospect top 100 lists gave some context for projected WAR, perhaps people would chill a bit. For example, a Dodgers fan might get pissed that Yadier Alvarez is ranked 93rd while Mike Soroka is ranked 54th if this were a traditional list. But by KATOH+, that is a projected difference of about 0.2 WAR per season. That is 39 spots in the rankings that don’t make a whole lot of difference. The difference between #2 and #3 is almost twice as large.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Eh, the FV rankings do that.

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
9 years ago

What defensive stat/stats does KATOH use for minor leaguers?

bananas
9 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

Great question since someone like Margot is going to be heavily dependent on his defensive value.

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Thanks! In the link, it just says “Defense” and gives a value. Could you give a rough idea of what this number is based on?

CraftyRighty
9 years ago

I guess it makes sense that Cozen’s 40/20 season vaulted him to #1 on raw stats, but I am surprised factoring in scouting didn’t drop him lower than #26 on list 1. He hasn’t sniffed any top 100 lists out there . . .

xman1813
9 years ago

One thing I find interesting about this list is that Beede is ranked 49th on this list yet is ranked 2nd on the Giants prospects list, which is topped off by Arroyo. I understand that it’s because of the difference between their KATOH projections. I’m just wondering why the disparity between KATOH and their respective FV ratings.

NattyFanMember since 2019
9 years ago

Impressed by Victor Robles placement in the “stats only” list. Should I be? Not knowing the ages of the other prospects, can other fans point out the “under 20” prospects in the top 50 in that list?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  NattyFan

No, you’re right to be impressed by Robles. He’s got a lot going for him. Ozzie Albies, Kyle Tucker, Rafael Devers, and Gleyber Torres played last year under 20 (just over 20 now). Arraez, Triston McKenzie, Isaac Paredes, and Luis Urias are still under 20. Szapucki and Verdugo are close. This sort of method heavily rewards prospects who are young for their level though, so it’s going to penalize college players more than prep/international stars because college players are almost never young for their level.

SenorGato
9 years ago
Reply to  NattyFan

Robles is excellent. He and Rosario right now are the favorites for #1 in 2018. That had little to do with your post

bananas
9 years ago

Hey remember when all these guys used to be on the red sox?

cnote66Member since 2017
9 years ago

Was looking for F. Martes — no love from KATOH?

cnote66Member since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

THANKS!

Dan Rausch
9 years ago

I’m curious what changed between the release of the team lists and this top-100 list. For example, Jose De Leon had a KATOH+ of 10.1 in the Dodgers Top 21 list, but only an 8.0 on this list. I’m assuming the updated BA top-100?

znullmeyer
9 years ago

How is John Schuknecht that high on both lists? He only has 200 professional at-bats and all in Rookie Ball. He was been solid but nothing special for a 21-year-old. I have never even seen him on an Angels prospects list. 37th round pick last year.

BassDefenseMember since 2020
9 years ago

Despite the lack of velocity data, there are some interesting pitchers high on this list than the other guys have them. Including some that aren’t even on those lists: Szapucki, McKenzie, Beede. Even Kopech isn’t a universal top prospect list pick despite his flame throwing fame. Perhaps the system is still biased to velocity through K rates anyway?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  BassDefense

I want to talk about Szapucki some more, since the Mets article went up today. His stats are ridiculous, but he’s barely pitched at all. Does KATOH think he’s a starter, or is it giving him that projection even though it considers him a reliever?

ctcyawni
9 years ago

There’s something unsavory about this list. There are a ton of 17 year olds that hit better in rookie ball than did Vlad Jr, and not only are they not ahead of him, they’re not even among the top 100. Something is really fishy about the methodology here.

ctcyawni
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Andres Gimenez, Juan Soto, Oswaldo Cabrera, Esteury Ruiz… to start.

To those down voting me, it’s healthy to question why things are the way they are, instead of just accepting things when they don’t look right.

CheeseballMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  ctcyawni

Might it have something to do with their high BABIPs when Baby Vlad ran a .283 BABIP?

ctcyawni
9 years ago
Reply to  Cheeseball

Andres Gimenez had a higher walk rate, a lower strikeout rate and an identical ISO. Both the walk rate and the strikeout rate are significantly on the side of Gimenez.

ctcyawni
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Thanks for the answer. That’s really informative and it definitely helps that you separate different league performances.

For Guerrero, which 6 years are you counting for him? Is this assuming he makes the majors starting in 2019?

Socrates Johnson
9 years ago

Seeing Barreto and Chapman so high up on your lists seriously made my day. Thanks for the optimism, Chris!

Raidas77
9 years ago

Damn, Houston. With the current MLB roster and this, go ahead and schedule the parades.

DavidYoungTBLA
9 years ago

I followed one of the links but stupidly still couldn’t figure it out. What is the definition of “thru First 6 Seasons”, or what is it intended to represent? Is it the first six years they appear in the majors at all?

rustyspatula
9 years ago

Interesting that German Marquez joined the list while Kevin Padlo fell off — a weird trade just keeps getting weirder

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  rustyspatula

Padlo had a weird year–whacked a bunch of HRs and had an average of .230. But that was in A-Ball as a 20 year old. I bet he fell off because his strikeout rate jumped a bit.

HughMember since 2020
9 years ago

Surprised Brendan Rodgers misses the KATOH+ list entirely… 60 FV from Longenhagen, 16 on the BA list, put up pretty good numbers while playing a decent share of his games at short

ctcyawni
9 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

This is pretty shocking. His K/BB/ISO and level are almost identical to Eloy Jimenez AND he plays shortstop. This one probably needs an explanation.

HughMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  ctcyawni

OK, I’m a Rockies fan, so I thought maybe I was just being a homer…

If you think he’s stuck at second, I’m not sure how his profile looks worse than someone like Antequera. If you combine Antequera’s stints between A- and R ball, he’s got a few points on Rodgers in K% but is worse in most everything else (Age, Level, prospect ranking, position, BB%, ISO, BABIP).

It looks like Rodgers made a bunch of errors at short last year, so maybe KATOH doesn’t think he sticks there, but I used the comp to Antequera because he’s a 2B (played most his innings there last year). Not sure a few points in K% should sacrifice all those other benefits.

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago

Any plans for multiple seasons of inpout for KATOH? Also, regressing the stats so that 100 PA are not weighted the same as 600 PA?

vaakintolaMember since 2024
9 years ago

KATOH doesn’t see cozen’s huge home/road, splits platoon splits or strikeout rate? why does it like him so much?

SenorGato
9 years ago

Finally some gosh dang respeck for the potential stud that is Isaac Paredes. Dude can hit! All I’m looking for is a Kipnis/Pedroia hybrid at 2B, that’s it. His season was on point, periphs as well as the money making lines. Arguably the best age 17 season in the Cubs’ minor league history, largely because I’m too lazy to fact check to the extent it should be.

Brad
9 years ago

I guess I am still learning but I am confused why Nimmo is 21 overall in KATOH 2017 and Cecchini #28, yet everything else I see is so pessimistic about their futures. Is it because they don’t have a clear fielding position at the majors for their tools?

teeclay
9 years ago

What about Corey Ray? No love… Love your work by the way!