Prospect Watch: NL East Prospects
Each weekday during the minor-league season, FanGraphs is providing a status update on multiple rookie-eligible players. This particular Prospect Watch feature will focus on prospect notes from around the minors — focusing on both top prospects and sleepers.
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People continue to over rate D’Arnaud. Maybe he’s not 100% healthy. If he is, he looks pretty far from being a plus ML hitter. He looks very overmatched at the plate.
Carry on.
You’re right. Who would want a young catcher with a 9.5% walk rate, 18% K rate and 120ISO. 16% LD rate giving him a .218BABIP but yeah he’s not unlucky, he’s just overmatched.
I don’t know what this post purports to say about TdA. I didn’t say he isn’t due some correction and better results. I am clearly saying that reports of him being an elite catcher (4 straight years as BA top 50 prospect) overstated his potential as a player. He has no standout tool/skill. He can an average ML catcher but probably not more.
Based on what, exactly? Catchers take plenty of time to develop. It’s pretty hard to say that right now, a few weeks into his Major League career, that he’ll never be an above average offensive catcher. Yadier Molina wasn’t above average offensively until his 6th (5th full) season.
Moreover, TdA seems to be a) above-average defensively and b) is already an improvement over every single catcher that the Mets have had over the past several years.
Moving forward, the offensive bar for catchers isn’t very high and it still seems perfectly reasonable for TdA to hit for an .800+ OPS in the not-too-distant future – which would immediately make him one of the stronger offensive catchers in baseball.
I’d be patient with d’Arnaud. The prospect hype and poor offesnive performance at the outset of his ML career remind me exactly of Devin Mesoraco. Catcher development is always erratic, unless you’re an MVP like Buster Posey.
D’Arnaud will be nowhere near the hitter that Mesoraco can be. He simply doesn’t have that kind of power.
.230+ ISO at every stop since 2011 and even before that .150+. You seem to be a D’Arnaud hater with nothing to back it up.
what?! hater?? oh please. I’ve seen him play. Let’s leave it at that. And be careful about any analysis that includes vegas results…
Won’t disagree about Vegas but he also had a .230 ISO in AA.
yes. he had one very good non-vegas year in the minors or two if you want to add 2008 which was about 100 yrs ago. Look, multiple injuries may have taken a toll on him. I don’t know. All I know is that he looks very overmatched at the plate and even when he hits something squarely, it’s about 340 foot power.
I don’t think he’s a lost cause bc as someone said his underlying numbers suggest a correction. But even corrected, he’s not an impact hitter. I think we’re looking at a Kurt Suzuki kind of guy (and I know he’s having a very good year now), not more.
Funny you mention Mesoraco as a comp – a player who hit very poorly in his first FOUR stints in the Major Leagues. Go look at Mesoraco’s MLB stats before this year. Now look at d’Arnaud’s, and figure out why you can’t use Mesoraco as a comp for what d’Arnaud won’t be. Also look at d’Arnaud’s superior minor league homer rate while you’re at it.
Mesoraco just didn’t get the playing time. That isn’t an issue the issue for D’Arnaud.
Of course the minor league track record is better for Mesoraco in terms of power potential. But he did play in parts of 3 seasons in the bigs, including over 100 games last year, exhibiting solid walk/strikeout rates and low BABIPs. Not like his current tear is going to last forever, but Mesoraco is finally living up to the hype regardless.
Also, d’Arnaud was never rated as highly as Mesoraco ever was; his status as a BA top-50 prospect has more to do with his position than any standout tools. Though I have to say, his pitch framing skills are fairly promising.
Mesoraco played over 100 games last year with a 74 wRC+ and a .124 ISO, so let’s drop the playing time argument. The wRC+ and ISO are pretty close to what d’Arnaud has done this year – 69 and .118 respectively. How about let’s let d’Arnaud play the rest of this year because in all likelihood, he’ll put up better numbers this year than Mesoraco did last year.
have you seen D’Arnaud play or are you just repeating what scouting reports have said for the past few years…? because they’re never wrong…
you’re saying that TdA is going to be as good as Mesoraco?? Do I have that right?