The Good Outweighs the Bad with Pittsburgh’s Tyler Glasnow

Less than a month ago, the Pirates called up top prospect Jameson Taillon from the minor leagues, and slotted him into their struggling rotation. With Taillon now sidelined by shoulder fatigue, the Pirates have once again dipped into their minor-league repository. Today, they’ve called up yet another top-tier pitching prospect in Tyler Glasnow. Glasnow’s spent the past three months putting up sick-nasty numbers with the Pirates’ Triple-A affiliate. In 96 innings across 17 starts, he boasts a 1.78 ERA and 2.94 FIP. He’s struck out a remarkable 30% of batters faced this year, which is tops among qualified Triple-A hurlers. Triple-A hitters proved to be no match for his filthy fastball-curveball combination.

Glasnow’s mowed down minor-league hitters, but many are concerned that his lackluster command will prevent him from succeeding at the next level. That’s a big reason why the Pirates kept him in the minors as long as they did, and why they passed him over for Taillon when they needed a pitcher last month. As lead prospect analyst Eric Longenhagen noted in a recent chat, “His stuff is hellacious and pitchers with that body type often develop command late, but there’s a non-zero chance Glasnow never throws enough strikes to dominate.”

Glasnow’s lack of command shows up in the numbers, as well. He’s walked an alarming 14% of opposing batters this season, which is third-worst among qualified Triple-A pitchers (“trailing” only Henry Owens and Jorge Lopez). He walked a similarly concerning 11% between 2014 and 2015. I had the opportunity to play with some minor-league COMMANDf/x data a couple of years ago, and let’s just say the numbers didn’t paint Glasnow in a very favorable light. Of the prospects with whom I was familiar, his readings were easily among the worst in my sample. That data was from 2014, but seeing how his walk rates haven’t improved since then, it’s probably safe to conclude his command and control haven’t budged much either.

Despite the walks allowed, KATOH still sees Glasnow as one of the most promising young pitchers on the planet due to his gaudy strikeout rates. Heading into the year, my system pegged him for 9.5 WAR over the next six years, which placed him 13th overall and third among pitchers. His forecast has since ticked down to 7.8 WAR, largely due to his worsened walk rate. But his projection is still near-elite.

To put some faces to Glasnow’s statistical profile, let’s go ahead and generate some statistical comps for the 6-foot-7 righty. I calculated a weighted Mahalanobis Distance between Glasnow’s Triple-A performance this year and every Triple-A season since 1991 in which a pitcher recorded at least 350 batters faced. In the table below, you’ll find the 10 most similar seasons, ranked from most to least similar. In generating Glasnow’s comps, I only considered pitchers who cracked Baseball America’s top-100 list either before or after the season in question. This is intended to act as a proxy for “good stuff,” which Glasnow certainly has. The WAR totals refer to each player’s first six seasons in the major leagues. A lower “Mah Dist” reading indicates a closer comp.

Please note that the Mahalanobis analysis is separate from KATOH. KATOH relies on macro-level trends, rather than comps. The fates of a few statistically similar players shouldn’t be used to draw sweeping conclusions about a prospect’s future. For this reason, I recommend using a player’s KATOH forecast to assess his future potential. The comps give us some interesting names that sometimes feel spot-on, but they’re mostly just there for fun.

Tyler Glasnow’s Mahalanobis Comps
Rank Mah Dist Name Proj. WAR Actual WAR
1 4.0 Scott Elarton 10.8 4.9
2 15.8 Aaron Sele 7.7 11.6
3 17.9 Chris Carpenter 5.9 9.3
4 19.3 Jason Schmidt 8.3 12.9
5 26.2 Cal Eldred 4.4 8.3
6 26.5 Ed Yarnall 5.7 0.0
7 29.9 Jimmy Haynes 5.4 6.9
8 30.4 Dan Reichert 6.7 2.2
9 30.6 Colby Lewis 6.6 0.2
10 32.5 Jeff Niemann 4.0 5.8

Glasnow’s command is iffy, and he’ll likely post higher-than-average walk rates in Pittsburgh — just as he did in the minor leagues. All else being equal, you’d prefer to have a pitcher that doesn’t push 15% with his walk rate. But all else isn’t equal with Glasnow. His ability to generate strikeouts, especially at such a young age, is a huge point in his favor. According to my math, the good far outstrips the bad in Glasnow’s case.

In the here and now, Glasnow should give the Pirates a nice little boost that could help keep them in the thick of the NL Wild Card race. Steamer calls for a 3.84 ERA from here on out, which would certainly be an upgrade over whomever he replaces in Pittsburgh’s rotation. Shifting innings away from Jeff Locke, Jon Niese and Chad Kuhl can only help matters. In the longer term, Glasnow has the chance to blossom into one of baseball’s best and most exciting pitchers.





Chris works in economic development by day, but spends most of his nights thinking about baseball. He writes for Pinstripe Pundits, FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. He's also on the twitter machine: @_chris_mitchell None of the views expressed in his articles reflect those of his daytime employer.

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szielinski
8 years ago

The Pirates do not want to shift in innings from Kuhl to Glasnow. They want both pitchers in the rotation.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
8 years ago
Reply to  szielinski

I think it is far more likely that Kuhl is a middle reliever than a SP. He’s a two pitch guy that struggles to miss bats. The sinker, fastball mix plays up in the pen.a la Jared Hughes.

Spa City
8 years ago

I agree with Pirates Hurdles. In all likelihood Kuhl is a relief pitcher. He has only 2 pitches that he can use with any frequency in the majors, and neither is elite. He does not have a useful “off-speed” pitch, but he also lacks enough velocity for his fastball/sinker to make it through a major league batting order 3 times a game.

Some pitchers add substantial velocity when used 1 inning at a time. Kuhl is exactly the type of pitcher whose K rate could climb substantially when used in the bullpen.

Just my admittedly non-expert opinion.

LHPSU
8 years ago
Reply to  Spa City

Is Kuhl’s stuff really so different from Charlie Morton? I would be happy to get Charlie Morton, and I would rather have a pitch to contact type of guy at the back of the rotation rather than the bullpen.

He’s been a starter throughout the minors and consistently put up good numbers. Maybe it doesn’t translate to the majors, but I think he deserves the chance to prove that he can’t do it. He’s still 23 and moved pretty steadily through the minors. Plenty of time for him to work on the secondary stuff. Jared Hughes was 26 by the time HE made his debut and never had the sort of results that Kuhl had as a starter.

Also, the Pirates are not known for grooming their pitchers through the minor leagues as starters only to put them in the bullpen at the MLB level.

BillClinton
8 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

“Also, the Pirates are not known for grooming their pitchers through the minor leagues as starters only to put them in the bullpen at the MLB level.”

Tony Watson, Justin Wilson, and Jared Hughes beg to differ but I do think they’d like to give Kuhl a shot to be a SP.

“he also lacks enough velocity for his fastball/sinker to make it through a major league batting order 3 times a game.”

He was hitting 95mph. I’d say that’s adequate velocity if he’s hitting his spots.

LHPSU
8 years ago
Reply to  BillClinton

Tony Watson was moved to the bullpen in AA and was purely a reliever by the time he hit AAA. Jared Hughes languished for years in the minors putting up mediocre numbers before putting it together as a pure reliever in AAA in 2011. Justin Wilson is the closest comparison, but his bottom-line results were average at best.

Unlike those three, Chad Kuhl has never pitched out of the bullpen, and his ability to prevent runs as a starter has been phenomenal through the minors. The Pirates would be crazy to turn him into a reliever at this point.

The only pitcher in recent years that I can remember who was groomed exclusively as a starter only to be converted into a reliever without given a chance to fail as starter is Trevor Rosenthal. I still think the Cardinals were insane to do that, even if they did get a few good years out of him as a closer.