Time for Terry to Go?

The Boston Red Sox are ready to start making changes. Following one of the biggest collapses in recent memory, Manager Terry Francona was the first casualty of a potential front office purge. Some of Francona’s comments on the situation seemed to indicate that he had lost the clubhouse during the collapse. If Francona had already lost the team, how could the Red Sox put their faith in him to regain the clubhouse going forward? Thankfully, this isn’t the first time a team has squandered a large lead with their playoff hopes on the line. Looking back at some of baseball’s more recent collapses, we can get a better idea of how teams deal with their managers in similar situations.

1995 California Angels

What happened: Two separate late-season nine game losing streaks dropped the Angels out of first place just as the season was coming to a close. The Angels rebounded to win their last five games, only to lose a one game playoff to the Seattle Mariners.

And their manager: Marcel Lachemann kept his job following the collapse, but was fired the next season; after posting a 52-59 record.

2007 New York Mets

What happened: The Mets lost 12 of their last 17 games and failed to qualify for the playoffs after holding a a seven game lead on September 12th.

And their manager: Willie Randolph also kept his job following the Mets’ choke. That didn’t last long, however, as he was fired on June 17th the following season.

2008 New York Mets

What happened: The Mets went 7-10 down the stretch and failed to make the post-season after their second consecutive September swoon.

And their manager: Following the dismissal of Randolph in June, the Mets promoted Jerry Manuel. Despite the Mets’ failures down the stretch, Manuel signed a two-year deal to remain with the Mets. In those two seasons, Manuel led the Mets to two consecutive fourth place finishes in the division. He was fired following the 2010 season.

2009 Detroit Tigers

What happened: The Tigers held a seven game lead on September 7th; only to blow it to the surging Twins — who won 16 of their last 20 games.

And their manager: Jim Leyland took ownership of the collapse and kept his job. After leading the Tigers to an 81-81 record the following season, Leyland’s Tigers are currently one win away from another ALCS appearance.

2010 San Diego Padres

What happened: The surprise team of 2010 couldn’t keep the magic going down the stretch. A ten-game losing streak eventually knocked them out of first place; allowing the division rival San Francisco Giants to win the World Series.

And their manager: Despite the collapse, Bud Black was named the 2010 Manager of the Year. This season, the Padres weren’t as fortunate; finishing fifth in the NL West.

2011 Atlanta Braves

What happened: The Braves suffered a late-season meltdown that rivaled the Red Sox’s collapse.

And their manager: Fredi Gonzalez is still the manager…for now.

Looking at some of the more recent baseball collapses, it’s easy to see why the Red Sox decided to make a change. While many managers kept their jobs following September failures, their teams failed to respond in the following seasons. The jury is still out on Black and Gonzalez, but Jim Leyland is the only manager on this list that has led his team back to the post-season following an epic collapse. Francona may be the more successful than any manager on this list — and it’s possible he could’ve been the exception to the rule — but it looks like once a manager loses control of the clubhouse, it’s incredibly tough to get it back.





Chris is a blogger for CBSSports.com. He has also contributed to Sports on Earth, the 2013 Hard Ball Times Baseball Annual, ESPN, FanGraphs and RotoGraphs. He tries to be funny on twitter @Chris_Cwik.

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Jason
13 years ago

Is Francona more successful than Jim Leyland? Leyland has taken three different teams to the playoffs and won the WS with an expansion team if I am remembering correctly. Not a bad record.

Jason
13 years ago
Reply to  Jason

Out of curiousity, I looked both of their managerial records up:

Leyland: http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/leylaji99.shtml

Francona: http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/francte01.shtml

Tough to call one better than the other. Francona has a winning record, while Leyland is just under .500. However, Francona never managed to get the Phillies to play .500 ball, while Leyland had winning seasons with all of the teams he has managed except for his one year stint in Colorado.

Francona’s success was all had in the toughest division in baseball which is a plus for him. On the other hand, Francona missed the playoffs 3 out of 8 years despite being favored for a playoff spot in all of those years. Aside from those Pittsburgh teams of the early 90’s that Leyland was very successful with, he has never been given a clear favorite. He has still been pretty successful with a bunch of teams however.

Leyland won a lot of games this year despite insisting on batting his best hitters at the bottom of his lineup (+ 1 for intentionally handicapping himself and still winning).

Drew
13 years ago
Reply to  Jason

I don’t give Francona a whole lot of credit for doing well in the toughest division in basball. The massive resources of his former team is one of the two obvious reasons the division is considered so tough. I’d say it’s the toughest division in baseball if you are not the Yankees or Red Sox. So Francona was almost competing solely against the Yankees, and with the Rays to a lesser degree, and then likewise with Toronto and Baltimore. In the spirit of using arbitrary multipliers, I’d guess he was really only competing with 2.7-3.0 teams at most. That’s equivalent to competing in the AL West.

Jason
13 years ago
Reply to  Jason

That’s a good point Drew. He hasn’t done well competing against his one team then, as the Yankees win the East almost every year.

JDA
13 years ago
Reply to  Jason

Managerial records? whaaaat are you guys doing?