Travis Sawchik FanGraphs Chat
12:02 |
: Don’t be sad the 2017 season is over, friends …
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12:02 |
: Be glad it happened
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12:03 |
: Now, on to 2018 …
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12:03 |
: So what’s your off-season sports drug of choice?
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12:03 |
: It’s such a dark period in my life
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12:03 |
: My favorite non-MLB event is the NCAA men’s basketball tournament if you consider spring training to be offseason
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12:04 |
: I will watch NFL but not with the zeal I once did
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12:04 |
: Probably a stupid question, but when does the offseason start?
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12:04 |
: Free agents can begin signing with other clubs at 5 p.m. eastern today, so in about five hours
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12:06 |
: What do you think Hosmer gets in free agency compared to what you think he’s actually worth?
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12:06 |
: If Hosmer would stop pounding the ball into the ground 2.5 GB/FB ratio he could really be something
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12:06 |
: But he hasn’t shown a willingness or ability to do it … but I suspect there’s more in there
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12:06 |
: I think he’ll get more than his 3-year performance suggests he should
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12:07 |
: And he’s only entering his Age 28 season. So he could get a bunch of years at, say, $25m aav
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12:07 |
: If you are Kansas City would you trade Whit Merrifield?
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12:08 |
: If I’m the Royals I would go for a total rebuild, so, yeah, I’d look at moving anyone of value for as much future surplus value as possible
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12:08 |
: Merrifield’s value may never be greater than it is right now
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12:10 |
: when assessing trade package values, is there an industry standard discount rate applied to prospect production/value?
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12:10 |
: I would think each club approaches it slightly differently, but, yeah there’s probably something along the lines of your premise
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12:10 |
: Should the Indians look to move Yan Gomes this winter?
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12:11 |
: I could see it … unless they think Mejia is not really a catcher
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12:11 |
: Mejia has been getting some looks at third base
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12:11 |
: I thought the offseason started the minute the final game ended? Free agency is what begins today.
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12:12 |
: I suppose it depends on what you consider the five-day “quiet period” to be
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12:12 |
: If Vlad Jr can hit an MLB home run in the 2018 season, he’ll be the youngest Blue Jay to ever homer, beating out a 37 year old record owned by the current Boston Celtics GM
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12:12 |
: Who knew!
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12:12 |
: Thoughts on Brantley and Tomlins options being picked up for the Tribe?
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12:13 |
: Tomlin’s was going to get picked up. He’s still a cheap strike-thrower .. the Brantley decision ($12 million) option was more questionable
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12:14 |
: If he’s healthy, Brantley should easily produce enough surplus value to justify the contract … But will he be healthy? With with a number of pre-arb replacements on the 40-man, could the Indians have better spent that money elsewhere?
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12:15 |
: I think Indians are going to be between $120-$130 million entering the offseason just on guaranteed contracts and projected arbitration numbers. Probably not a ton of budget to work with
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12:15 |
: With a bunch of money off the books(though it all won’t be spent) and lots of needs what do the Mets do this offseason?
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12:16 |
: Mets are an interesting juncture … The staff has the upside to lead it back to relevance, but with so many question marks I could see justifying tearing down, too. I have no idea what the Mets will do
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12:16 |
: Do you think the difference between smart teams and not-so-smart teams is now bigger than ever? I’m thinking along the lines of Astros/Dodgers/Indians vs Tigers/Marlins
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12:17 |
: I think the gap is smaller since just about every team has analytics and is valuing players in similar ways. There are exceptions. I think payroll and spending power is going to become more important in the coming years than it has been over the last decade plus
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12:18 |
: For a time like the Yankees, or another stacked AL team.. would you prefer a dedicated DH (ie Santana), or rotate position players to give them rest?
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12:20 |
: If I can get a stud bat, I would prefer just to plug him into the DH spot, though I know teams prize versatility. Re: Santana, he’s actually become a pretty good 1B (10 DRS!) adding to his value.
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12:20 |
: There is a lot of talk about a Darvish/Ohtani link in free agency. Are the two actually close or is this just assumed because they’re both Japanese?
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12:21 |
: I don’t know how close they but I could see having a countryman in the clubhouse being attractive if you are going to work in a foreign country
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12:21 |
: You expecting any type of sophomore slump in either Bregman or Benintendi?
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12:21 |
: I think Bregman will put up a better overall line and I’m not too worried about Benintendi. I love the swing and approach
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12:21 |
: Is Santana the most underrated free agent this season? He’s been better and more consistent than Hosmer the last 3 seasons, but will very likely get a lot less money.
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12:22 |
: I love Santana and now he’s playing above-average defense … and the plate discipline is something you can count on every year (and he’s been really durable)
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12:22 |
: I think there should be a decent market for Santana, which is probably another reason the Indians picked up Brantley
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12:23 |
: Interestingly, Antonetti mentioned Brantley had some minor league experience playing 1B when speaking to reporters last week
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12:24 |
: Darvish and Ohtani are actually friends and train together in the offseason
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12:24 |
: FWIW
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12:25 |
: Do you think Stanton is traded and if so who do you see as the favorite?
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12:25 |
: The Padres would have to give up _________ to get Stanton?
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12:25 |
: As Dave noted in his off-season movers-and-shakers piece, the Cardinals need to consolidate their 40 man roster. Do you think we could see a Stanton deal at the GM meetings next week?
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12:26 |
: I do think Stanton is going to eventually be traded ….whether it’s this offseason or down the road. Cardinals might be a candidate. Basically any team with a number of prospects and budget space is a contender
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12:27 |
: Stanton’s value is somewhat tricky to evaluate with the contract and how will he age? I’d have more interest as an AL team with the DH to fall back on
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12:27 |
: At least the Browns didn’t lose this weekend, eh?
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12:28 |
: Ha. Well, it’s in the Browns best interest to lose. The Browns have been on the Astros’ plan since 1999, they just haven’t executed as well
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12:30 |
: What “bargain bin” deals in free agency would you be most interested in?
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12:31 |
: I need to dig into this a little more but if you want to drill really deep I like Francisco Liriano converted to a reliever
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12:31 |
: Should the Dodgers pick up Forsythe’s option? Or do you see them slotting Taylor at 2b and trying the Joc/Kiké thing in CF again?
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12:32 |
: The option is only $8.5m, so they’ll pick up up … he was still a 1.7 WAR player last season and he could very well be better in 2018
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12:32 |
: Taylor gives the club a lot of versatility
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12:33 |
: When are free agent predictions coming out?
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12:33 |
: Good question!
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12:33 |
: I don’t think you’ll have to wait too long
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12:34 |
: Who wins the World Series next year?
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12:34 |
: Can’t we just enjoy the offseason first? haha
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12:35 |
: Astros, Dodgers, Indians, Yankees, Nats are my top five right now
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12:35 |
: Not exactly going out on a limb
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12:35 |
: how cool would it be if baseball had a 1st day of free agency similar to what we see in the other sports?
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12:36 |
: It would be nice to have a little more activity early, but the slow burn is perhaps good for the sport because it provides intrigue fuel for months
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12:36 |
: Any chance the Dodgers make a run at Stanton? They’re at a point where it’s increasingly difficult to upgrade the roster. Stanton represents that upgrade and they’re almost uniquely capable of taking the financial risk.
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12:37 |
: That would be fun … And, yeah, it’s becoming tough to upgrade a lot of areas on the LAD roster, for sure
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12:37 |
: Do FG and MLBTR compete to see whose FA predictions are more accurate?
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12:38 |
: I’m not aware of an actual scoreboard, but I’ m sure someone is keeping track. It’s always nice to be the most accurate.
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12:39 |
: So where would be the coolest place for Otani to end up?
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12:39 |
: Angels?
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12:40 |
: Big market (good for MLB)… and helps get Trout into October
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12:40 |
: Seattle would be kind of cool: A Paxton-Otani combo
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12:41 |
: I’d like to see him added to a team that’s fringe contender
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12:41 |
: I really don’t want to see everybody sign on day one. I don’t want to be deprived of the next two months of baseball news distracting me from two months of Christmas.
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12:41 |
: Yeah, I
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12:41 |
: ‘m good with the slow burn
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12:42 |
: What are your major award predictions?
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12:42 |
: Kluber/Scherzer/Judge/Stanton
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12:42 |
: Should the Indians pay Santana at 1B again? Will they? Do you think he’s good for 3wins for the next three years?
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12:43 |
: Indians will miss him if he departs, I suspect the Brantley option suggests they think Santana is going to get paid. Plus, Indians already have a sizeable $$$ commitment to DH. Not sure they want to wrap up 25 percent of their budget to DH and first base
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12:44 |
: For a long time I’ve believed injury prevention/generating peak performance is the next way teams will gain competitive advantages. With the Mariners hiring a “Director of Player Performance” and other teams presumably following suit, I was wondering what trend may be next for teams to adopt early.
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12:45 |
: I think that’s a big area of focus right now and there’s still a lot to be done there. So I think that’s still the big thing
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12:45 |
: If you were running the A’s what would you do this winter? Are they at a -wait-for-talent-to-mature place? or should they deal Lowrie and lock up Davis?
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12:45 |
: Go get Ohtani!
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12:46 |
: The Red Sox need a 1B. I would love to see them go after Carlos Santana, but I’m afraid they are going to be in the running for Eric Hosmer. Do you think they sign a free agent 1B, or do they run it back with Moreland?
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12:46 |
: Alonso is out there, too
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12:46 |
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12:47 |
: Thoughts on Tanaka’s NOT-opt-out? Seems like the safe play, but I think he could have gotten one more year, or more money over the same time frame.
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12:48 |
: Yeah, I was kind of surprised. But, then again it’s probably a little terrifying to turn down tens of millions of dollars …and the elbow concern lingers. I suspect the Yankees are happy with the decision
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12:48 |
: Where do you think Darvish Yu is going to end up in?
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12:48 |
: Cubs
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12:48 |
: Was Judge’s performance really head-n-shoulders above Altuve’s, though?
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12:49 |
: I would have voted for Altuve but I think the dingers will win the day in a close race
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12:50 |
: Is Georgia Roddy the AL MOTR? If so, is he destined to become the answer to the trivia question, “Who is the only manager to win the MOTR award in both leagues and be let go in the same years?”
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12:50 |
: Couple things: I began a Google search typing in “Georgia …
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12:50 |
: And I totally forgot Girardi managed the Marlins
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12:51 |
: Thoughts on Gabe Kapler? His introductory conference impressed me, but he may just be a good talker. He seems like someone who could rub players the wrong way (I’m sure some players in the Dodgers system may agree). Do you think his pros (analytics, intensity, intelligence) outweigh his cons (overbearing, lack of experience, odd intrigue with coconut oil) ?
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12:51 |
: I like the hire. If you’re trying to tap more into performance and getting more out of players, I think Kapler could be a great fit
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12:51 |
: It’s certainly inspired
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12:52 |
: If Morton was 2017, who is 2018?
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12:52 |
: I think 2018 is going to be an extension of 2017, only more extreme
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12:52 |
: Thoughts on what the Dodgers should do with Grandal?
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12:53 |
: Wait for a great return, and if it never arrives keep your 9 WARP catching combo
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12:53 |
: Is paying for clubhouse presence overrated? For example, giving more money to Hosmer because he’s a good clubhouse guy.
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12:53 |
: I think it matters to a degree … but does anyone have a good handle on the value? Performance value is mostly what I would be comfortable paying for
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12:54 |
: Maybe 90 percent performance/10 percent intangible?
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12:54 |
: Forget the length, doesn’t $25m AAV for Hosmer seem nuts? It values him at ~3 WAR over the length of the deal, yet he’s never strung together back-to-back 1 WAR seasons, and averages ~2 WAR over the past 4 seasons (Ages 25-28). Gonna be a massive overpay on AAV *and* years, no?
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12:55 |
: I feel like the Hosmer brand is stronger than the actual product
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12:55 |
: Can we all remember Bregman’s throw in ALCS Game 7 real quick? That was a ridiculous throw!
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12:55 |
: Sorry but we’ve moved on to 2018 concerns!
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12:55 |
: What does a big contract (in terms of AAV) look like for a DH/1B? In recent years, $15M/yr for 3 years would be a pretty big contract unless you were Votto or Goldy, right?
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12:56 |
: There’s been some reluctance to pay for bat-first players (See: Encarnacion)
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12:57 |
: But now with fewer balls being put in play, and the scoring environment up, I think bats will fare a little better this offseason
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12:57 |
: Maybe I will be completely wrong, but JD Martinez and Carlos Santana can really impact a team and lineup
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12:57 |
: Let’s say the Cardinals do trade for Stanton. Maybe Luke Weaver is part of the package. Does this get them close enough to Chicago for hopes of a division title race, or just more safely in the wild card hunt?
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12:58 |
: Chicago’s pitching situation is pretty uncertain … so I’d be aggressive in StL
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12:58 |
: The overall division landscape is not that daunting in 2018
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12:58 |
: I’m a Red Sox fan. What are the odds Dombrowski does something stupid like shelling out $150 million for Eric Hosmer?
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12:59 |
: I could see it
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12:59 |
: Do you see any under-the-radar free agents this offseason who could benefit a team in the way Charlie Morton did for Houston?
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12:59 |
: We have some projects in the works here at FG!
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1:00 |
: Who will be the biggest star to be traded this offseason?
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1:00 |
: Stanton … if he’s traded
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1:00 |
: What do you miss about being on a team beat? What do you prefer about working at FG?
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1:01 |
: I do not miss deadline writing every night and rain delays … I do miss the press box camaraderie and some of the travel. At FG, I love that there’s an entire industry to cover and there are rarely bad ideas to explore
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1:01 |
: In general, which is more difficult: predicting where free agents will sign, or who will win the end-of-season awards?
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1:01 |
: Free agents
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1:02 |
: Do the Astros add a bat during the Winter?
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1:02 |
: Let’s get Stanton to the Astros
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1:02 |
: Other than Big Data Baseball, what’s a baseball book you’d recommend to get us through the long offseason?
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1:03 |
: So much great writing out there right now … But Ball Four is a must read if you haven’t
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1:03 |
: but doesn’t a lot of the activity run into the holidays and then the football playoffs?
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1:03 |
: The holidays used to be an unspoken ceasefire … not as much anymore. I don’t think football plays overshadow signings
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1:03 |
: Manfred has denied any tomfoolery but would you be surprised if the players arrive to work in 2018 and all the balls are suddenly the 2014 model?
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1:04 |
: I don’t think MLB wants a return to the 2014 environment but it wouldn’t surprise me to see the standards tightened
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1:04 |
: Pretty clear the Indians won’t be retaining Bryan Shaw. Even if they re-sign Joe Smith, wouldn’t it make sense to use Danny Salazar in a relief role? With Tomlin coming back they have more than 5 SPs and Allen/Miller are FA’s after 2018.
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1:04 |
: I really want to see Salazar in a bullpen role. I think he could excel there and maybe stay healthier
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1:05 |
: I’d love to see him deployed like Devinski
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1:05 |
: Should the Red Sox try and trade for Yasmani Grandal? They can’t continue to ignore the catcher position.
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1:05 |
: If I’m a team in need of a catcher, I’d make an offer for Grandal
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1:05 |
: Something about Boston’s front office situation depresses me. Dave Dombrowski is doing Dave Dombrowski things, the farm system is depleted, and it appears it’ll be another winter of large spending for players who probably aren’t worth it (Hosmer). Sure, they have a young core that Theo and Ben built – but I still tend to believe the Dombrowski hiring cut their viable years to compete without a rebuild from 7-8 years to maybe 5. Not sure why such a progressive front office is getting so much older (La Russa, Wren) and backwards.
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1:07 |
: Yeah, I think the Red Sox might have been better off by holding onto their young talent and supplementing via FA. The window has been reduced. The tough thing is Sale is so good, if he goes Bumgarner in a postseason the price is worth it.
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1:07 |
: How scary would the astros be with Stanton aiming at the Crawford Boxes?
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1:08 |
: That and he’s have an easier time with the opposite field
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1:08 |
: They should contract the Montreal franchise.
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1:09 |
: Contract an HBD flagship?
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1:09 |
: Do you see the Astros having a relatively quiet offseason?
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1:10 |
: Typically it’s tough to upgrade a WS winning roster
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1:10 |
: So, yeah, probably more quiet than loud
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1:10 |
: Is the fact that Votto rarely comes up in MVP discussion (despite repeatedly being the best pure hitter in the game) evidence he is among the most underrated and unappreciated players of this generation? Would it be different if he played his games in pinstripes?
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1:10 |
: That’s a logical and rational position … I really want to see Votto in October
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1:11 |
: Pirates feel like a team on the fringe. Are they destined to end up in that 75-83 win purgatory zone or could you see them competing/tanking?
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1:11 |
: They are in that middle-ground. If enough things go right (everything went wrong in 2017), I could see them in wild-card picture in 2018
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1:11 |
: Death to the Sacre Bleu.
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1:11 |
: This is what I deal with in my private HBD life, folks
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1:12 |
: Fun bit of trivia: For MLB players that went by Gabe (at least as searchable by FanGraphs) – Kapler actually only finished with the second most WAR! Care to guess who finished ahead of him?
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1:12 |
: It’s Gabe Gross, shockingly
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1:12 |
: Fun fact time!
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1:12 |
: Is someone like Keon Broxton a good trade target? Do you think he has hope of curbing the K%?
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1:13 |
: I’m still on the Keon bandwagon
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1:13 |
: In all this free-agent and Stanton discussion, what’s one other “TRADE” that could/should happen this winter?
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1:13 |
: Cubs should do something with that position player log jam
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1:13 |
: Isn’t counting on Sale in the postseason kind of foolish though, given his 2nd half struggles typically?
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1:13 |
: Sale is a guy who might need to be handled more carefully in regular season
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1:15 |
: At least Oakland isn’t saying Montreal are Disappointments
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1:15 |
: Plus 1
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1:15 |
: Can you explain the Tyler Glasnow mystery – will he ever make it as a starter or would he be more effective as a reliever?
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1:15 |
: I’d work him in as a reliever
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1:16 |
: Such a frustrating player, but not the type you want to give up on before you have to
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1:16 |
: for what teams is this offseason the most important for?
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1:17 |
: Cardinals, Red Sox, Cubs, Marlins, Angels
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1:18 |
: Whats with some Steamer projections being an incredibly low number of games? Examples include J.D. Martinez only playing 81 games and Jay Bruce playing just 16…
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1:18 |
: I think we are working through some playing time issues related to free agents
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1:18 |
: Pirates listen on Cole?
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1:19 |
: Yes, but I think they’ll probably wait and see how the first three months go
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1:19 |
: Thanks for the questions everyone. Happy offseason, it should be a fascinating one
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1:19 |
: I will be back next week. Hopefully, some interesting things have happened. Until then, be good and do good
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A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.
“Colt Holt: Is the fact that Votto rarely comes up in MVP discussion (despite repeatedly being the best pure hitter in the game) evidence he is among the most underrated and unappreciated players of this generation?”
I grabbed the position players with 30+ fWAR 2010-2016 and their MVP shares from baseball reference for those years. Divide A by B and you get their wins per 100% MVP share rates:
808 Zobrist
446 Kinsler
90.8 Pedroia
59.1 Longoria
25.3 Beltre
22.8 Bautista
20.0 Posey
18.3 Cano
16.5 Votto
14.9 McCutchen
14.7 Donaldson
12.0 Trout
11.8 Cabrera
Seems like there are a good number of very good players getting less MVP recognition given their fWAR at least.