World Series Game 2 Live Blog
| 7:56 |
: I think James Taylor just sang the wrong song…
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| 7:56 |
WHY DOES AMERICA NEED SO MANY SONGS |
| 7:57 |
BECAUSE AMERICA |
| 7:57 |
Because… ‘Merica! |
| 7:57 |
I love American. Mass obesity has its charms |
| 7:59 |
: For those wondering, no Sullivan tonight, but Zimmerman might swing by later to keep our Jeff quota going.
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| 8:00 |
Today you mention that pitching to the score was baloney in the comments section of your blowout article; yet last night you made comments about the pitch selection based on the score – while I realize the goal is the same score neutral, aren’t those two ideas contradictory? |
| 8:00 |
: Last night I was mocking Tim McCarver’s stupid comments about pitching to the score.
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| 8:01 |
: And, look, even if you think pitchers might back off some and just groove fastballs in the regular season, if you think they’re doing that in the WORLD SERIES, you’re insane.
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| 8:02 |
Dave, have you ever bet on baseball? |
| 8:02 |
: Nope.
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| 8:03 |
Hey Dave, don’t let your Cardinals fandom cloud your judgment. Your article today seemed to make an excuse for how badly the Cardinals got beat |
| 8:03 |
: That’s me, well known Cardinals fan.
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| 8:03 |
: Here’s a tip for you: announcers/writers/people aren’t biased against you just because they wrote something you don’t agree with.
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| 8:04 |
Dave, what do you make of the Red Sox walking just once yesterday? I roll my eyes at the idea of pitching to the score, but at a certain point of a blowout, do you think some hitters become less selective? |
| 8:04 |
: Adam Wainwright has good control.
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| 8:05 |
Is Beltran playing? |
| 8:05 |
: Starting. They didn’t promise he will play the whole game.
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| 8:05 |
Did Carson watch Game 1? |
| 8:06 |
: He seemed to be aware of what happened when we talked about it on the podcast today, so either yes, or he read a really thorough recap.
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| 8:06 |
I heard that Carson hates the playoffs. Is this true? |
| 8:07 |
: Hate is a strong word. They aren’t his favorite thing.
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| 8:07 |
Podcast was great, that’s why I was wondering. Used to live overseas and watching stuff in the middle of the night is rough. |
| 8:07 |
: I’m sure he didn’t watch it live. We didn’t record that podcast until 5 pm eastern his time.
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| 8:07 |
Any thoughts on Gomes over Nava? |
| 8:07 |
: Can never know if Nava is dealing with an injury or something, but if he’s healthy, it’s the wrong call.
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| 8:08 |
Nava seemed healthy when he pinch hit last night |
| 8:08 |
: Agreed
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| 8:08 |
: That lack of punctuation was in honor of Jeff.
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| 8:09 |
: The Red Sox “key to the game” is to “feel the momentum”.
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| 8:09 |
What is your least favorite thing about baseball? |
| 8:09 |
: Tim McCarver?
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| 8:09 |
: Might be recency bias at play.
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| 8:10 |
: Second night in a row Drew makes a rushed throw for out #1 of the game.
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| 8:10 |
Does Drew thing Carpenter is faster than he is? Seems to be rushing things? |
| 8:12 |
: Wasn’t even that close to swinging, crowd boos no strike call anyway.
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| 8:12 |
: Gomes Effect.
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| 8:12 |
Why does he dive for everything…? |
| 8:12 |
: He has no range.
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| 8:13 |
Does he ever realize that it’s probably going to drop in anyway? |
| 8:13 |
: Helps his grittiness factor.
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| 8:14 |
: Too close to take, eh Tim?
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| 8:14 |
: That’s like a foot high.
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| 8:14 |
why doesnt fenway have a batter’s eye area like pretty much every other stadium? |
| 8:14 |
: It does – it’s the really tall wall.
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| 8:15 |
All the momentum to the Sox after that Gomes putout. |
| 8:15 |
: It only matters if they feel it.
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| 8:17 |
theres a wolf at the fence in my backyard. what do i do???? |
| 8:17 |
: Rent a tiger.
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| 8:18 |
Shoot it. You’re American, you should have a gun or two, right? |
| 8:18 |
: There’s a fox in our neighborhood, and our neighbors have been sending around emails about it. I’m shocked one of them hasn’t gunned it down yet.
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| 8:19 |
what does the fox say? |
| 8:19 |
I was going to make a joke about finding out what the fox says, but I thought better of it |
| 8:19 |
but foxes keep rodent populations in check |
| 8:19 |
What’s it say? |
| 8:19 |
You have a neighborhood email chain? |
| 8:19 |
: Yep.
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| 8:19 |
Are foxes dangerous for dog and cats? |
| 8:20 |
: Theoretically, yes.
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| 8:20 |
FoxGraphs |
| 8:20 |
: Oh good, Texarkana talk!
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| 8:21 |
Dogs and cats who get eaten by foxes just don’t want it enough |
| 8:21 |
: Wacha is living up in the zone.
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| 8:21 |
: After Buck spent all pregame talking about his downward plane.
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| 8:22 |
: Nasty change-up.
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| 8:23 |
Matheny talked about bringing Wainwright back to potentially start game 4 on short rest. If you’re in that situation, what’s the series have to be at for you to do that: 3-0 or down 2-1? |
| 8:23 |
: I probably wouldn’t do it either way.
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| 8:23 |
In that situation, Dave would throw a bullpen game and go matchup heavy. |
| 8:23 |
: Yep.
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| 8:24 |
: Wacha is really good .
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| 8:24 |
If Waino on normal rest for Game 5- can use him for relief in Game 7 if necessary? |
| 8:25 |
: Yes. You’re better off with full rest Wainwright/relief in Game 7 on throw day than two short rest starts.
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| 8:25 |
Do you think it’s possible to win a WS where your starter never goes more than 2 or 3 innings (i.e. TB in game 4 of the ALDS)? |
| 8:25 |
: Yep, and we’ll see a team do it in the next 10-20 years.
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| 8:26 |
but why not throw him on short rest to tie the series? live for today, not tomorrow |
| 8:26 |
: No, live to win four games or it doesn’t matter what day you lose on.
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| 8:27 |
: They’re advertising that they’re going to run an ad?
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| 8:27 |
: Tune in on Sunday, so you can see this ad we’re promoting now.
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| 8:28 |
: Lackey is living up at the neck.
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| 8:28 |
: And they’re swinging.
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| 8:29 |
Line drive on the scorecard! |
| 8:29 |
: Or a fliner, more likely.
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| 8:30 |
Glad we got that family interview. Always exciting, Fox. |
| 8:30 |
: Lackey is really living up in the zone.
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| 8:31 |
What do John Lackey’s parent’s think about his performance? |
| 8:31 |
It’s always the parents of rookies too. It’s like parents just stop caring after the first season. |
| 8:32 |
Cards already have 4 swinging strikes on high fsstballs. |
| 8:32 |
: Five, now.
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| 8:33 |
: Nasty curveball.
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| 8:33 |
If you’re the FOX stat guy, how angry to you get when they come to ask you to find out the pitchers with the most days between world series starts? |
| 8:33 |
Is there a win probability chart up for today’s game? All I see is yesterday’s. |
| 8:34 |
Is the transcript from yesterday’s chat somewhere? It seems to have disappeared. |
| 8:34 |
: These things are too long, so they break the transcript tool.
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| 8:35 |
Why do all the Red Sox infielders act like they’ve got Billy Hamilton running to first? The Cardinals are slow – walk the ball to first before they get there. |
| 8:37 |
: I feel like The Desolation of Smaug should be what Greenpeace calls themselves.
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| 8:39 |
Odds Papi makes the HOF? |
| 8:40 |
: 90%. He does all the things voters love.
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| 8:40 |
I can’t see Ortiz getting in unless Edgar does. |
| 8:40 |
: Ortiz has dingers and postseason clutch narrative.
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| 8:41 |
Ortiz plays(ed) in the bigger market, too |
| 8:41 |
: Boston got Jim Rice into the Hall of Fame based on nothing more than “fear”.
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| 8:42 |
JONNY GOMES IS A WINNER WITHOUT THE NUMBERS |
| 8:42 |
Winners! |
| 8:42 |
Jonny Gomes #winner |
| 8:42 |
Gomes is a winner without the numbers to back it up. |
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(jonny gomes has INTANGIBLES) |
| 8:42 |
Winner = choosing good teams apparently |
| 8:43 |
Nava only has tangibles |
| 8:44 |
has wacha thrown the curve yet? |
| 8:44 |
: I haven’t seen one.
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| 8:45 |
: Wacha living up in the zone with his fastball too. Seems to be the gameplan for both pitchers today. Wonder if the cold gives pitchers more incentive to go upstairs?
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| 8:46 |
whats the most pitches wacha has thrown this year? at 36 already |
| 8:46 |
: 112.
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| 8:46 |
Apparently fastballs down are better than fastballs up (for the hitter)? I was always told don’t leave anything up… |
| 8:46 |
: Up gets more swings and misses, but also more dingers.
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| 8:47 |
I’m guessing the faster you throw the safer it is to live up there? |
| 8:47 |
: It’s more about location than velo, but velo helps too.
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| 8:48 |
Dave, I asked this question during Paul’s chat, but how could so many teams “miss” on Wacha? With all the money and time spent on scouting, how does a guy with Wacha’s obvious talent and makeup become that undervalued? He was only in the Cardinals system for a year, so it cannot be that much about player development. |
| 8:48 |
: Scouts love breaking balls.
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| 8:49 |
I suspect, but have no evidence, that changeup-heavy pitchers tend to overperform their first time through the league. |
| 8:49 |
: I think changeup heavy pitchers tend to overperform period. Or, said differently, they’re underrated.
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| 8:51 |
: Pretty great slider to a lefty.
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| 8:51 |
: Don’t see that too often.
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| 8:52 |
a plus changeup and a plus fastball has to be one of the best combos for any pitcher |
| 8:52 |
: Yeah, if you have a good two-seam that eats up righties, better off with great change than great breaking ball.
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| 8:53 |
Are changeups underrated because people don’t realize that its very hard to hit a pitch that’s 10 mph slower than you expect, even if it moves very little? |
| 8:53 |
: Change-ups are underrated because people think they don’t move much. The good ones move like crazy.
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| 8:54 |
: Lackey’s slider is really good tonight.
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| 8:56 |
Cole Hamels change = love. |
| 8:56 |
Rob Neyer just pointed out that Carp was signed for $1,000….that’s incredible. |
| 8:56 |
: He was a college senior. They have no leverage.
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| 8:57 |
Pedro’s change up was absurd. |
| 8:57 |
: Maybe the best pitch I’ve ever seen. Rivera’s cutter only competition, probably.
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| 8:58 |
: If Hall of Famers are made, not born, the new market inefficiency will be finding the HOFer factory.
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| 8:58 |
: That change-up is so good.
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| 8:58 |
Wacha curve sighting |
| 8:59 |
: Wacha came inside. Rare.
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| 8:59 |
what is wacha’s floor? 2/3 even if the breaking pitch never gets to a ‘plus’ pitch? |
| 9:00 |
: He’s James Shields without the breaking ball. If he adds a plus slider, he’d be, I don’t know, the best pitcher in baseball or something.
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| 9:00 |
Another filthy changeup. |
| 9:00 |
Filthy change! |
| 9:01 |
and a get me over curve. |
| 9:01 |
: Curves are often taken for called strikes.
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| 9:02 |
I mean, what can you even do as a hitter if a pitcher can consistently hit his spots in and out, up and down with 93-97, and has a change with the movement/deception of Wacha’s? If he doesn’t make you swing and miss, it’s likely he’s put the ball in a great spot and you’re fouling it away, popping it up, or weakly grounding out. Unfair. |
| 9:02 |
: Don’t miss it when they leave one hanging.
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| 9:03 |
Yadi vs Jacoby?????? |
| 9:03 |
: Too early.
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| 9:03 |
3 hits tonight in 3 innings and all three of them have been bloops. |
| 9:04 |
*Medium depth fly ball* *every crowd on earth goes crazy* |
| 9:04 |
if both bullpens start at the 6th inning, which bullpen has the advantage? |
| 9:04 |
: STL.
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| 9:07 |
: High fastball, imagine that.
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| 9:07 |
: And that high fastball is going for a triple.
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| 9:07 |
: Matt Holliday, still very good.
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| 9:08 |
: Guess, I logged in to get the offense going.
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| 9:08 |
Ellsbury misplayed that. Should know the bounce. |
| 9:08 |
: Not much you can do though.
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| 9:08 |
: Hi Jeff.
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| 9:08 |
100% grit |
| 9:09 |
: Hi Dave, I finally got me kids put to sleep.
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| 9:09 |
: “the most creative…”
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| 9:09 |
: Yes, diving is genius!
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| 9:09 |
I have some of Pedroia’s original works of art. |
| 9:09 |
: I am listening to the radio feed instead of Buck and McCarver, it seems to save brain cells.
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| 9:09 |
I might try fielding in short right to a pull heavy lefty! |
| 9:10 |
He’s like da Vinci |
| 9:10 |
Is the radio laggy for you as well, Jeff? |
| 9:10 |
smart play by Pedi, as hard as it must have been to concede a run with Wacha pitching |
| 9:10 |
: A bit, but well worth it.
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| 9:10 |
wasnt creative enough to get the runner out at home! |
| 9:12 |
A great base running team that’s league average in BsR |
| 9:12 |
: Given the speed of their players, though, that’s kind of impressive.
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| 9:13 |
Do we know if Craig can play first in STL? |
| 9:13 |
: Unlikely.
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| 9:13 |
: Adams is good enough that there’s no need to force it.
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| 9:14 |
: Craig is back too early, he probably won’t play 1B in StL, but we will see.
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| 9:14 |
: Pedroia’s collapse to get out of Drew’s way was very… pronounced.
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| 9:14 |
Would you say it was… creative? |
| 9:14 |
I think you mean creative, Dave |
| 9:14 |
It was a creative collapse |
| 9:15 |
It was a work of art |
| 9:15 |
needed to get more dirt on his uni |
| 9:15 |
wow, people type fast |
| 9:15 |
I like how the guy with the RBI bounce-out “produced” the run instead of the guy with the triple. |
| 9:16 |
anybody, and I mean anybody, can hit a triple with no one on and no pressure. It takes a real player to drive that run in with a meek groundout. |
| 9:16 |
: I like these Ford “And” commercials.
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| 9:16 |
: The sour chicken gets me every time.
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| 9:17 |
While he obviously plays hard, is there a player who engages in more “false hustle” than Pedroia? |
| 9:17 |
: Miguel Olivo.
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| 9:17 |
I wonder if that guy ever gets teased for being in a commercial and saying “I Wonder WHat These Nuts Are For” |
| 9:17 |
Pedrioa making masterpieces in the batters box with his shoes |
| 9:18 |
dirty uni mention! |
| 9:18 |
Too many Viagra ads |
| 9:18 |
Win expectancy? |
| 9:18 |
: Pedroia crushed that.
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| 9:19 |
: Pedroia didn’t fall for decoy.
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| 9:19 |
Pedrioa moving to a more abstract expressionist phase with that double |
| 9:19 |
What would that little deke have accomplished? there was no one on base. |
| 9:20 |
I’m kind of digging this hit speed tidbits. |
| 9:20 |
Now hopefully we can get two consecutive right side groundballs to produce a run |
| 9:20 |
Wacha losing his command? |
| 9:20 |
: Or pitching around a big scary dude.
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| 9:21 |
: Ortiz was the league leader in IBB, people pitched around all year.
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| 9:21 |
no harm in setting up the double play for napoli i guess |
| 9:21 |
Michael Walka |
| 9:21 |
Michael Walk-a |
| 9:21 |
: No creativity there, guys.
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| 9:22 |
: And that’s why you pitch around Ortiz.
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| 9:22 |
: Look at the big brain on Floyd.
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| 9:22 |
called it |
| 9:23 |
: Wacha is just very good.
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| 9:25 |
Jonny Gomes is 5 – 30 |
| 9:25 |
Still don’t know why Gomes is in this game |
| 9:25 |
Wacha > Miller next year? |
| 9:25 |
: Yes.
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| 9:25 |
Miller is dead.Everyone > Miller. |
| 9:26 |
Wacha > Cole?? |
| 9:26 |
: Maybe.
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| 9:26 |
: Good question, poll time.
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| 9:29 |
Why does steamer have Wacha down for twice as many innings as Cole next year? |
| 9:29 |
: Ignore the playing time projections right now. They’re based on the depth charts, and STL/BOS only teams still playing.
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| 9:29 |
off the base? |
| 9:30 |
: Looked like it from that last replay.
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| 9:30 |
: Time for the deadly 3rd time through the lineup
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| 9:31 |
: Pretty nice inning for Stephen Drew.
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| 9:32 |
Why all the Pearl Jam? |
| 9:32 |
: Because they’re not lighting mups.
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| 9:32 |
: Agree
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| 9:32 |
Man, was Drew this good defensively before his injury? Never realized how great he is at SS. |
| 9:32 |
: He’s been underrated for a while.
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| 9:33 |
“A partnership with Fox Sports will include extensive use of 48 Pearl Jam songs across the promotional and music beds for this month’s World Series coverage, set to air Oct. 23-31 on Fox, and feature the group’s music throughout November as Artist of the Month across all Fox Sports properties” |
| 9:33 |
: That sounds annoying.
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| 9:34 |
: Very
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| 9:34 |
Very,Very |
| 9:34 |
i LOVE pearl jam AND baseball win win for me |
| 9:34 |
Boston fans would have liked Drew so much better if his name was Drew Stephens instead. |
| 9:35 |
: The Red Sox best scoring chance will be the next couple of innings.
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| 9:35 |
: Truth.
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| 9:36 |
: The 5th pitch was called a strike quite a bit this game.
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| 9:37 |
uggggggggggggggggggggh bunt |
| 9:37 |
As bad as Drew has been, a bunt might be advisable |
| 9:38 |
: You don’t want to make decisions based on stuff like that.
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| 9:38 |
You don’t want to take hitter quality into in game decisions? |
| 9:39 |
: Hitter quality isn’t decided on a week or two worth of PAs.
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| 9:39 |
I would consider a .776 OPS quality…. |
| 9:40 |
How does Bogaerts project defensively at SS? |
| 9:40 |
: Good enough.
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| 9:40 |
: The scout on Gameday is a little faster than me, but Wacha’s speed is down at least 3 mph, maybe more.
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| 9:41 |
: Wacha’s change is maybe already top 10 in baseball.
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| 9:41 |
: At least among starters.
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| 9:41 |
Who would you say has the best? |
| 9:41 |
: Strasburg, maybe.
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| 9:42 |
jeff, any real data on throwing “too hard” as in straightening out the FB? |
| 9:43 |
: All depends on spin on the pitch. The harder the pitch, less chance for gravity to affect it, so it will be straighter.
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| 9:44 |
Next inning will be Boston’s best chance most likely. Victorino, Pedroia, Ortiz 3rd PA’s against a ‘tiring’ Wacha. |
| 9:44 |
Wacha could make Votto pop up? |
| 9:44 |
Sorry if this has already been addressed, but is there any major league pitcher that consistently throws his offspeed pitches from a different arm slot? McCarver seems to make a big deal out of it. |
| 9:45 |
: Bronson Arroyo changes arm angles all the time.
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| 9:45 |
: Bruce Chen is another if you consider him a MLB pitcher.
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| 9:45 |
I do not. |
| 9:46 |
Seems like changing arm angles would be bad for you. Both health wise and results wise. |
| 9:46 |
seems to me changing arm angles would help to alleviate wear and tear from the same ligaments/tendons |
| 9:46 |
: Disagreements.
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| 9:47 |
: Changing arm angles will either hurt you or help you stay healthy. This has been brought to you by FanGraphs MD.
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| 9:47 |
We should all just admit we know little. |
| 9:47 |
At least we’ve eliminated the possibility that it has no effect at all. |
| 9:47 |
Was that some Bruce Chen blasphemy? |
| 9:47 |
Hey I’m a Twins fan so I consider Chen a #1 SP |
| 9:48 |
: Lackey’s breaking ball has been awesome.
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| 9:49 |
E5 |
| 9:49 |
: Will be ruled a hit, but should have made that.
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| 9:49 |
: Radio is blaming the shift.
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| 9:51 |
: Okay, that Chromebook commercial was the worst thing ever.
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| 9:51 |
75% of the Canadian commercials are about hockey. Stereotypes are real people. |
| 9:52 |
75% of American commercials are about movies, cars and erection pills. |
| 9:52 |
What are the other 25%? |
| 9:53 |
Umm…beer says hello. |
| 9:53 |
Don’t forget the beer and car insurance. |
| 9:53 |
: Curveball alert.
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| 9:53 |
: Not a very good one, but got a strike.
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| 9:53 |
: Two straight curves!
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| 9:53 |
: Second one was better.
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| 9:54 |
: “Dana Demuth was right there” as if that would help him avoid an obviously bad call.
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| 9:55 |
: Surprised that STL doesn’t have anyone up in the pen.
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| 9:55 |
: This could get ugly in a hurry.
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| 9:56 |
: Wacha picking up the velocity, but keeping the ball up.
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| 9:56 |
I’d get Maness personally. |
| 9:57 |
: Ripped.
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| 9:57 |
: Managers will eventually stop asking their starters to get these outs.
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| 9:58 |
2-1 change. Big leagues. |
| 9:58 |
: Third time through the order…
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| 9:59 |
BOOM |
| 9:59 |
: with a pitcher over 100 pitches
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| 9:59 |
Unfortunately not even that home run will teach Matheny to pull his starters on time… |
| 9:59 |
What a rally killer by Ortiz |
| 9:59 |
Belt high fastball… |
| 9:59 |
That was a pretty poor pitch. Ouch! |
| 10:00 |
Nobody loves curtain calls more than David Ortiz. |
| 10:00 |
So is not letting you starter go through the lineup a 3rd time in a close game the next “market inefficiency”? |
| 10:00 |
: In the postseason, yes.
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| 10:01 |
: In the regular season, tough to pull everyone early every day.
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| 10:01 |
: I agree, especially will a loaded bullpen.
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| 10:01 |
Having Shelby Miller sitting on the bench through the whole postseason is a huge inefficiency |
| 10:02 |
It’s not just ‘3rd time through.’ It’s tiring, with a runner on, with their best hitter at the plate who’s seen you twice. |
| 10:02 |
: And has a significant platoon split. And you have a lefty out machine.
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| 10:03 |
: Wacha is very good, but that wasn’t too hard to see coming. That’s on Matheny.
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| 10:03 |
: Freese playing defense, who knew?
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| 10:04 |
if its hit at him he’s pretty good |
| 10:05 |
Matheny has been slow to the bullpen the entire postseason. |
| 10:05 |
: Yep.
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| 10:06 |
It’s not just the postseason, though…. |
| 10:07 |
:
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| 10:07 |
: For those asking for a pupdate.
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| 10:07 |
: She sleeps that way.
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| 10:07 |
Dave, hypothetically as a manager would you have a policy of always pulling pitchers before third time through the order? |
| 10:07 |
: No, always/never rules are silly. But would absolutely have a shorter hook than MLB managers do now, especially in postseason.
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| 10:08 |
There’s something to be said for integrity, but the page view potential of including puppy images in FG posts is pretty high. Wife has grown much more interested in what I’m doing on the computer since pupdates became a thing. |
| 10:09 |
: We are not above pandering.
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| 10:09 |
would you have lackey out there now? |
| 10:09 |
: Nope.
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| 10:10 |
Koji for 6 tonight right? |
| 10:10 |
: Probably, yes.
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| 10:10 |
Any link to a classic times through the order piece? I know it’s conventional wisdom but I’ve never actually seen the studies. |
| 10:11 |
Got to hook him now. |
| 10:11 |
: Staying with him.
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| 10:11 |
: Too much faith in the starters continues.
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| 10:11 |
: Ortiz > Jay
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| 10:12 |
Thats a bold statement Jeff |
| 10:12 |
i hope jay goes yard just to spite jeff |
| 10:13 |
: Better late than never.
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| 10:14 |
You can tell from the lack of F bombs and whining that even Lackey knows it’s time to go. |
| 10:14 |
: Farrell was getting a little greedy
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| 10:14 |
: Gotta pinch hit here. This could easily be game, Kozma defensive upgrade anyway.
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| 10:14 |
1 batter too late. He knows, though, that the Cards really have no one to hit for Descalso. I guess the Cards could use Robinson. It’s either that or (gulp!) Matheny may ask Descalso to bunt. |
| 10:15 |
robinson?’ |
| 10:15 |
Kozma is PR for Freese. Mathenius everyone! |
| 10:15 |
: Huh.
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| 10:16 |
Huh is right. |
| 10:16 |
What the. |
| 10:16 |
: How is pinch running more important than pinch hitting here?
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| 10:17 |
Kozma can’t hit. Might as well make the speed useful. |
| 10:17 |
: Kozma vs LHPs way better than Descalso.
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| 10:17 |
Almost a Nick Punto |
| 10:17 |
: Not with one out.
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| 10:17 |
: Generous call.
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| 10:19 |
I feel like I watched too many Reds games this year, because I really don’t know why the Cards are not bunting here. |
| 10:19 |
: Because there’s an out. Bunting guys to third with two outs isn’t helpful.
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| 10:20 |
: Dave, you have not watch enough Ned Yost managed teams.
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| 10:20 |
double steal! |
| 10:20 |
: If you were going to do that, why not earlier, when the SF was more likely since there were more pitches left in this AB?
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| 10:22 |
: And of course Descalso gets on and makes it all moot.
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| 10:22 |
Is that call a repay of the generous first strike? |
| 10:22 |
: That was inside.
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| 10:22 |
Anybody else think Fox has terrible camera angles? |
| 10:22 |
: The worst.
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| 10:23 |
: Clown shoes.
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| 10:23 |
WHAT |
| 10:23 |
Baseball! |
| 10:23 |
Yay defense! |
| 10:23 |
Matheny is a genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:23 |
Also, this World Series is creating the best series of gifs. |
| 10:24 |
Boston’s turn tonight. |
| 10:24 |
: How long until we can get a .gif of that throw?
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| 10:24 |
Did Breslow throw that? |
| 10:24 |
: Yes
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| 10:24 |
Gomes’d |
| 10:24 |
Looked like Breslow threw a two-seamer. |
| 10:25 |
E2 and E1. |
| 10:25 |
: Breslow looks totally rattled. Historically, he is decent with runners on base.
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| 10:25 |
Error on Salty seems weird |
| 10:25 |
: Was a pretty easy catch to make.
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| 10:26 |
Everyone who gives up a WS lead looks rattled. |
| 10:26 |
Thats what happens when you take out the starter too early. LOL |
| 10:26 |
And the best part? Wacha is in line for the win! |
| 10:26 |
There was 0 to gain from Breslow throwing to third on that play. |
| 10:27 |
Not 0, he could have thrown him out if he didn’t take a crow hop and made a decent throw |
| 10:27 |
: Didn’t look like he had a real shot.
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| 10:28 |
Defensive miscues > managerial decisions. |
| 10:28 |
Red Sox went from 50.1 WE to 31.9 on that play. Now at 20.4. |
| 10:29 |
I wouldn’t rule out Matheny bringing Wacha out to start the bottom of the 7th. I’ll be yelling at the TV if he does, but I wouldn’t rule it out. |
| 10:29 |
is this the whitest world series possible? |
| 10:29 |
: The Utah Jazz could be in it.
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| 10:30 |
well, not *ever* ever |
| 10:31 |
Should Koji have replace Lackey? |
| 10:31 |
: Breslow was right call.
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| 10:32 |
Against Descalso and Carp with no good options on the bench. LOOGY was the way to go. |
| 10:33 |
: Well, he might not sing America the Beautiful
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| 10:33 |
: Maybe he’ll sing something else again.
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| 10:33 |
Isn’t that cute, my DVR thinks it’s time for the postgame show |
| 10:33 |
: Time to get some snacks
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| 10:33 |
This is going to take awhile… |
| 10:33 |
That dude in the “Boston Strong” shirt has no idea what to do with his hands right now |
| 10:34 |
What do I do with my hands? |
| 10:35 |
How much does Koji get this off-season? |
| 10:35 |
: His option vested.
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| 10:36 |
How much does Wacha get this offseason? |
| 10:36 |
I’m still amazed that even if Gomes made a good throw, he probably wouldn’t have gotten the runner at the plate. He was what 200-250ft from home? |
| 10:36 |
: Yeah, he’s not very good out there.
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| 10:36 |
so, America the beautiful, take me out to the ballgame, and Sweet Caroline? I’m gonna run to the liquor store. Anyone need anything? |
| 10:37 |
Sweet Caroline is the 8th |
| 10:38 |
Martinez 2 IP, Rosenthal 2 IP, or in between? |
| 10:38 |
: Probably Martinez for two.
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| 10:38 |
: “the key is to the keep the batter off the base”
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| 10:39 |
NICE PLAY! KOZMA REDEEMED! CAPS!!! |
| 10:40 |
Dang…. |
| 10:40 |
take kozma’s glove away from him, thats obviously the problem |
| 10:40 |
He should play without a glove. |
| 10:41 |
Fastest 3 outs all series? We might be back on a mere 4hour pace now! |
| 10:43 |
: American Idol is still a thing?
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| 10:43 |
They have celebrities on now though. Dave Matthews won it last year. |
| 10:45 |
: Well I guess Doubront isn’t starting Game 4.
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| 10:45 |
Workman a starter or reliever long term? |
| 10:45 |
: Starter.
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| 10:46 |
Wrong, Dave, according to McCarver, “He could just be throwing without rhyme or reason.” |
| 10:46 |
Martinez and or Rosenthal become starters eventually? |
| 10:46 |
: No.
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| 10:48 |
: Pan to guy in Cardinals hat. “He’s from St. Louis, right?”
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| 10:48 |
JON HAMM DAVE NOT JUST SOME GUY |
| 10:48 |
: I don’t know who that is.
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| 10:49 |
My roommate just found out his mom has leukemia. Discharged from hospital, home to hospice, one to two months left. How about those Cardinals? |
| 10:49 |
: Oh man, I’m sorry.
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| 10:49 |
: Screw Leukemia.
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| 10:49 |
Jeff, do your data suggest that Bucholz is hurt? |
| 10:51 |
: He was before the end of the season, velocity and Zone% were down. He really hasn’t improved since then
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| 10:52 |
Still time for a grand slam |
| 10:52 |
: Gotta make that play.
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| 10:53 |
Ellsbury v. Molina now?! |
| 10:53 |
: No way you send him. No way.
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| 10:53 |
: A home run would be such a rally killer
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| 10:53 |
Yep. This almost certainly brings Ortiz to the plate this inning. I wonder if Choate’s warming now! |
| 10:54 |
It was too early to send him before…too risky to send him now. Are you just implying you shouldn’t run on Yadi? |
| 10:54 |
: Tying run at the plate. You don’t run.
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| 10:54 |
: Tough pitch.
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| 10:55 |
That was actually fairly hittable… was Victorino trying to get that pitch to hit his arm? |
| 10:55 |
: 95, diving in, stops on the corner… yeah, that wasn’t hittable.
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| 10:55 |
Too lazy to look it up… is Martinez up there in terms of movement on his 2 seamer – seems like a ton of armside run given the velocity |
| 10:55 |
: The most. Of anyone.
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| 10:56 |
martinez’s ball must look like a whiffle ball, on steroids, alert bud selig |
| 10:57 |
: I don’t think injecting a whiffle ball with steroids would be very helpful.
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| 10:57 |
: Martinez’s slider is sick.
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| 10:57 |
Artistic swing and a miss |
| 10:58 |
Long term starter? Long reliever? Set-up man? Closer? |
| 10:58 |
: Probably a reliever.
|
| 10:58 |
: Sticking with the RHP again.
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| 10:58 |
: Amazing.
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| 10:59 |
: This is not Mike Matheny’s finest day.
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| 10:59 |
isnt choate on the roster specifically for ortiz? |
| 10:59 |
Why is Choate on the team if not for that spot? |
| 10:59 |
: He doesn’t seem to have many of “good days”.
|
| 11:00 |
This is the ballgame here. |
| 11:00 |
: I’d probably have Rosenthal in here.
|
| 11:01 |
** heart resumes beating ** |
| 11:01 |
Nava to lead off the ninth surely? |
| 11:02 |
Gomes OBP this post season is .212 |
| 11:02 |
is FanGraphs down? |
| 11:02 |
: Looks like it.
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| 11:03 |
the cards should have 15 position players on the roster with the way matheny has managed so far |
| 11:03 |
: And they all wouldn’t be able to hit.
|
| 11:04 |
15? more like 18. |
| 11:05 |
: 1 walk since ASB. Still hilarious.
|
| 11:06 |
why on earth bring koji in to this game? |
| 11:06 |
: To keep the game close, give him work.
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| 11:06 |
: Off day tomorrow, not a big deal IMO.
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| 11:06 |
: Drew looks like every play is a total panic.
|
| 11:07 |
eh i guess thats true. he does get through every inning on like 9 pitches |
| 11:08 |
Would it kill Drew to plant and throw? |
| 11:08 |
: Maybe. He is a Drew.
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| 11:08 |
: Maybe the Cards could use Rosenthal at SS, he played there in college.
|
| 11:09 |
pinch Nava for Gomes, Middlebrooks for Drew? |
| 11:09 |
: Gomes.
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| 11:10 |
: The double steal didn’t do anything, Fox.
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| 11:10 |
: Descalso walked.
|
| 11:11 |
Rosenthal hit 100 this inning? 101? |
| 11:11 |
No Nava. Unbelievable. |
| 11:11 |
#freenava |
| 11:11 |
: starting out at 96
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| 11:11 |
hah gomes batting. farrell will not be outdone by matheny. |
| 11:11 |
I don’t understand |
| 11:12 |
Something tells me we see Nava starting game 3 |
| 11:12 |
: I should go talk to Rosenthal’s college coach, their campus is just a few miles down the road.
|
| 11:12 |
: He already said that he would be.
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| 11:13 |
: Nava is going to hit for Drew, not Gomes?
|
| 11:13 |
: I… don’t… get… it.
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| 11:14 |
You’re from Kansas City, Jeff?! I never knew cool people lived in the same place I did. |
| 11:14 |
: Actually down by Wichita, Cowley County is few miles away.
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| 11:14 |
: Worth noting, Rosenthal is filthy, no matter who is hitting.
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| 11:15 |
: Insane
|
| 11:15 |
3 K’s on what, like 12 pitches. Stunning. |
| 11:15 |
: 11.
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| 11:15 |
Bad game, good result. |
| 11:15 |
if rosenthal developed a kimbrel slider, would the universe explode? |
| 11:16 |
: Alright, Paul and Klaassen will be here on Saturday. Thanks for hanging out everyone.
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