Yankees vs. Twins Division Series Game 1 Chat
6:48 |
: Hey everyone — thanks for joining us. We’ll get started right around first pitch, but feel free to drop your questions in before that. Go baseball!
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6:50 |
Aaron Judge (R) RF Brett Gardner (L) CF Edwin Encarnacion (R) DH Giancarlo Stanton (R) LF Gleyber Torres (R) 2B Gary Sanchez (R) C Didi Gregorius (L) SS Gio Urshela (R) 3B |
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Jorge Polanco (S) SS Nelson Cruz (R) DH Eddie Rosario (L) RF Miguel Sano (R) 3B Max Kepler (L) CF Marwin Gonzalez (S) LF C.J. Cron (R) 1B Luis Arraez (L) 2B |
6:52 | : Jay (who will be joining us here to chat a little bit later) wrote the preview for this series, which can be found here if you haven’t read it already: |
7:05 |
: Alright folks, let get this thing rolling
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7:05 |
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7:06 |
: I’ll take the under because that’s what math says. Personally, I’d love to see the over. Home runs are fun
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7:07 |
: That my reaction was not immediately, five! that’s impossible! is an indication that 2019 has gone somewhat off the rails.
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7:07 |
: Costas and Smoltz? That’s a real bummer, man.
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7:07 |
: Over/under on 3 anti-analytics comments by Smoltz within the first inning?
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7:08 |
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7:09 |
: Broadcasting is very, very hard, and I don’t envy anyone the task of having to be engaging and well-spoken for three hours (and not swear!) but it does feel like we could perhaps staff these booths with folks who might be able to meet the current state of the game with greater enthusiasm mixed in with valid critique.
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7:09 |
: Yanks going to mercy rule the Twins, right?
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7:10 |
: They’re favored in this game, but these two teams are pretty evenly matched, and not so dissimilar in their construction, etc.
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7:10 |
: A catcher and a 1B being the two leadoff hitters gives me more satisfaction than it should.
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7:11 |
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7:11 |
: add Garver to the list of things I did not see coming this season
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7:13 |
: and there’s the first one already
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7:13 |
: One down.
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7:13 |
: (sorry, all the yankees fans are beautiful, my interface hung)
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7:14 |
: *considers scrolling back up and editing my comment*
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7:14 |
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7:16 |
How many HRs will be hit in this game?
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2 (0% | 0 votes)
3 (0% | 0 votes)
4 (26.0% | 6 votes)
5 (17.3% | 4 votes)
5< (56.5% | 13 votes)
Total Votes: 23
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7:17 |
: Sometimes I think about how James Paxton and Nelson Cruz are playing postseason baseball and Félix is sitting at home and then I don’t do work for a little while
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7:18 |
: Things are getting interesting in the ninth in Atlanta, as the Cardinals now have the tying run at the plate in the form of Yadier Molina.
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7:19 |
: Every time I give up on a cardinals-braves game, they get interesting
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7:20 |
: This is one of the very best days of baseball, though I end up being very, very tired by the end of it.
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7:20 |
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7:21 |
: Molina strikes out — two gone in the ninth
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7:21 |
: Any idea how many nerd casts they are doing for this post season? Those are great.
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7:22 |
: Just confirmed with Petriello that they’re done for the year — the NerdCast is an ESPN thing, and they don’t have anymore games so…
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7:23 |
: Bummer.
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7:24 |
: Agreed — it is quite good.
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7:25 |
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7:25 |
: Jay will be along in a bit, and Josh is here (say hi Josh)
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7:25 |
: hi
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7:26 |
: Quick note on the broadcast: Smoltz is right about Berrios’s breaking ball movement — his horizontal movement on his curveball this year was 70% better than league average. Both Berrios and Paxton throw with a lot of angle and generate above average horizontal movement
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7:26 |
: Both of them generally have below average spin rates on all their pitches
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7:27 |
: hi josh
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7:27 |
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7:27 |
: how is he able to generate so much break with below average spin?
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7:28 |
: Usually spin axis/release point. His movement profile is more of a traditional “slurve” than true curveball
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7:29 |
: his four seamer has 26% better than average tail, so they juxtapose each other well. Probably a lot of fun for a coach like Wes Johnson to design that type of arsenal
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7:31 |
: Berrios has thrown almost 7% more changeups in 2019 than 2018 and the xwOBA against it is down over 40 points
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7:34 |
: Looked out to me.
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7:34 |
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7:34 |
: My eyes are so good, folks.
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7:36 |
: I recently read Ben Lindbergh’s book about development and a lot of it seemed to be “throw your bad pitch less and your good pitch more”, oversimplified as that may be
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7:36 |
: (assuming you’re talking about MVP Machine by Ben and Travis Sawchik) That is simplified but not wrong, yeah
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7:37 |
: Costas mentioned Garver’s framing earlier — he’s right that it has improved though I don’t know I’d call it good — we had him worth -9.2 framing runs last year (BP had him at -8.2), and he’s improved to +0.8 runs (BP’s model liked him better at +4.2). So not a huge asset but hardly a liability anymore either.
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7:39 |
: “Slurve” is usually a pejorative term for a breaking ball, but with how quickly pitching dev is evolving do you think we’ll see more good slurvy pitches in the near future?
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7:39 |
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7:41 |
: do you think the Yankees resign me for next year? if not, what might they do instead?
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7:42 |
: tough market to gauge at this point. Torres at SS, LeMahieau at 2B isn’t the worst MIF combo in the game, to say the least. But, I have no idea what teams might think of Didi’s market this offseason
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7:42 |
: oopsies
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7:42 |
: Oh no DJ
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7:42 |
: I wish more than anything it was called the infield oops rule
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7:45 |
: It feels like defense has been not been good so far this postseason.
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7:45 |
: couple notable flubs to be sure, though some very nifty plays as well — we tend to remember the flubs more clearly imo
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7:46 |
: It was on that “Twin” killing
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7:46 |
: Not bad
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7:46 |
: (I’m not talking to myself in the chat, I swear)
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7:47 |
: okay I take back my comment about smoltz (or owe him an apology) he feels really well prepared for this game with a mix of data and old school scouting.
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7:47 |
: tbc my issue with his approach doesn’t stem from a perceived lack of preparedness — he can just be a grump about the current state of the game.
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7:47 |
: Which isn’t to say there aren’t things to critique or improve.
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7:48 |
: But the postseason is our biggest look-in audience of the year. It’s when casual fans see players they don’t know well. And there’s so much good stuff!
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7:48 |
: Just seems shortsighted and also, brings down a great exciting time.
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7:51 |
: Does MLB have any say in announcers or is it entirely up to the network?
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7:51 |
: You’d think they’d have the most influence over an MLB Network game?
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7:51 |
: (I’m not sure)
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7:51 |
: Smoltz is entitled to his opinion about the state of today’s game. Getting older myself, there are a lot of things about this world that I am sour on. That said, your broadcast should focus on selling today’s game or at least focus on the positives.
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7:52 |
: Yes, for sure. I don’t love the aesthetic direction of some parts of the game. I’m sympathetic, and it’s a worthy discussion.
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7:52 |
: But maybe for June or November.
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7:53 |
: do you think the concept of bullpenning has kind of peaked and we’re heading back to at least more a balance of starting/relieving?
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7:53 |
: I don’t, unless there are rule changes. As long as it keeps working, teams will keep doing it
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7:55 |
: If nothing else, Yanks seeing lots of pitches.
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7:55 |
: With the reliever rule changes it might at least put a stopper in and I think shift things back some, but I’d expect that means we see more relievers who have a deeper repertoire of pitches, rather than a dramatic shift back to starters going seven.
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7:55 |
: depends on how good starters are
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7:56 |
: That’s the other part — the really good dudes you still want innings from, even if you’re concerned about injuries, times through the order, etc
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7:56 |
: watching a game without a strike zone box is weird now
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7:56 |
: It’s so nice.
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7:57 |
: I also think the 15 day IL thing next year for pitchers will change things somewhat as well. Make it tougher to have the train from AAA to MLB.
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7:57 |
: Yup yup
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7:57 |
: Does that rule also apply to MiLB ILs?
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7:58 |
: I don’t know but, if not, it could be incentive for clubs to manipulate option-able players
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7:58 |
: Obviously these two might fall back into old habits, but right now the broadcast is actually really enjoyable. When he’s providing analysis Smoltz is pretty engaging, and they both seem to really know their stuff for today. And unless I missed something, no complaining about the game (yet).
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7:58 |
: And it’s interesting that during the draft a lot of complaints are that the announcers are too hyperbolic (ie comparing 2nd rd picks to HOFers) but then they don’t seem to like the current game. It’s kind of an odd dynamic
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7:59 |
: nice dig by Cron
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7:59 |
: He’s been fine so far, and obviously, someone who only talks about how AMAZING EVERY SINGLE THING IS can get tiresome, too. It’s a really hard job!
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8:00 |
: hadn’t heard…. one other thing with next year. We have 26 from start of season thru August. 28 in September. For October- is it going to be back to 26, or will it revert back to 25? I asked Dan and all of them earlier and they didn’t know…..
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8:00 |
: My understanding is it applies to postseason games as well
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8:01 |
: Wouldn’t make sense to make you carry fewer dudes in October.
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8:01 |
: Funny. I like the strike zone box, but I didn’t note its absence.
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8:02 |
: My annoyance with it is mostly due to the reaction on twitter, as it isn’t always right. But I’ve been talking with you fine people instead of looking at twitter.
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8:04 |
: Seems like it would be rad to be 20,000 feet tall?
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8:05 |
Ok, now how many HR
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2 (2.7% | 1 vote)
3 (5.5% | 2 votes)
4 (22.2% | 8 votes)
5 (27.7% | 10 votes)
5< (41.6% | 15 votes)
Total Votes: 36
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8:06 |
: Reporting live from Yankee Stadium: fans nonplussed that excitement after catch immediately countered by Cruz. You heard it here first.
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8:07 |
: Be in the moment, Adam2. We’ll be here to chat another day.
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8:07 |
: How bad of an idea would it be to expand rosters increasingly throughout the playoffs (e.g., 26 in WC to 40 in WS)?
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8:08 |
: Think bigger — expand rosters and let teams draft from teams eliminated from contention.
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8:08 |
: Just wanted to say how great the ‘How they were acquired’ has been!
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8:08 |
: Yeah, Jason has done a great job. His attention to detail is inspiring.
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8:09 |
: Nelson Cruz still having it makes me feel good
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8:09 | : In case you missed them, for this game: |
8:09 |
: I’m not sure I’ve ever had as much confidence in anything I’ve done as he did on his bat flip right there
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8:09 |
: Cruz, that is
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8:09 |
: Like, that ball was about 320 feet. And he knew it
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8:09 |
: I’d be so afraid.
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8:10 |
: I think that’s why I’d favor the bat drop a la Canó.
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8:10 |
: Easier to recover from if you’re wrong.
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8:10 |
: Can’t disagree
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8:11 |
: Well, it’s probably a single for Nelson Cruz either way, and I doubt he gets lambasted by the media for a bat-flip there. And bat-flips are fun! Players should bat-flip more.
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8:11 |
: DJ LeBABIPieu
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8:11 |
: (sorry)
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8:11 |
: Oh bat flips are great. This is a comment on my own anxiety and cowardice.
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8:11 |
: I think Nelson Cruz has earned batflip privileges by now
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8:11 |
: Bat flips are great! Players having fun is great! Everyone should have fun
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8:11 |
: Baseball is fun
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8:12 |
: We are pro-fun.
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8:12 |
: We are just scaredy cats.
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8:12 |
: these popups falling in make it look like my softball leagues
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8:12 |
: must be a hell of a league
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8:12 |
: If there was any playoff baseball series where the runs will be solely scored via HR, it is going to be this one.
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8:14 |
: The Twins were third by Guillen Number (the percentages of runs scored on homers); the Yankees were fourth.
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8:14 |
: And like, barely fourth.
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8:14 | : (Toronto was first, Milwaukee was second: |
8:16 |
This is literally the first time the Yankees have used these 9 players in the same lineup.
This is when it all counts. This is when it matters. #NextManUp
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8:17 |
: If anyone is interested, there’s a documentary about Sanó’s signing called “Ballplayer: Pelotero.” It’s pretty good
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8:18 |
: Twins exercise Nellie’s $12-million option for next year? Should they?
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8:18 |
: Yes. Yes.
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8:18 |
: They definitely should
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8:20 |
: in a just world, they’d decline cruz’s option and give that man a raise!
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8:20 |
: It didn’t really matter, but Gonzalez played that bounce off the wall really well
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8:23 |
: Bat slams are the new bat flips?
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8:24 |
: the sport should feature a beautiful range of expression
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8:24 |
: Ruh roh.
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8:24 |
: wow
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8:26 |
: Cron should’ve made that catch IMO
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8:26 |
: Think he’d likely agree.
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8:28 |
: Does it feely poopier to be a hitter down 0-2 or a pitcher down 3-0?
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8:29 |
: Since we’re noted scaredy cats here, I’d say I’d rather be down 3-0 than down 0-2. I didn’t hit past high school but I pitched through college, and I always felt like I was on the defensive behind in the count as a hitter, but if I went 3-0 on a batter, it was my fault and that’s fixable
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8:29 |
: But, more importantly, the scaredy cat thing. Obviously
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8:33 |
: I know Kepler’s story is well-known for the FanGraphs crowd, but I think Costas did a nice job consolidating it there for the fans listening
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8:34 |
: I agree
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8:34 |
: and that’s the sort of detail that
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8:34 |
: is great to share in postseason imo
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8:34 |
: 100%
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8:37 |
: Are bloop hits between 2b and rf that go off the second baseman’s glove the real key to the postseason?
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8:38 |
: In the sense that it’s a lot about being lucky in the right moments they are.
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8:38 |
: Or unlucky, as the case may be
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8:39 |
: Is this my last inning?
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8:41 |
: I’ll say no
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8:41 |
: if he goes quickly here, no — much of that last inning wasn’t his fault
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8:41 |
: I think if I were a major league catcher, well, I’d do a lot of things badly, but I think the most revealing would be how often I’d toss aside my mask assuming I had a play on the ball in foul territory that was in the stands
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8:42 |
: those masks probably aren’t the most comfortable. Nice way to get a breather
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8:44 |
: nifty
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8:44 |
: Meg, hockey style mask or classic?
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8:45 |
: Hockey — supposed to be better for your noggin, and I like my brain workin’.
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8:45 |
: Brains are cool
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8:45 |
: FanGraphs: pro-brains
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8:46 |
: what do you guys think of the Nats move to have Strasburg start tonight in game 2 on 2 days rest(with 34 pitches on Tuesday)?
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8:47 |
: Kind of a necessity. He hasn’t relieved since he was a freshman in college, if I remember correctly, and didn’t seem to have any trouble adjusting to it again this week. Perhaps he can make this adjustment, too. It’s not ideal, but necessary
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8:48 |
: Totally unrelated: who has a better fantasy outlook for next year, me or Rendon?
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8:49 |
: There are few things in baseball I know less about than fantasy. So, *shrug emoji* is my answer. Sorry
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8:51 |
: “gutting it up” sounds messy
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8:51 |
: Is Stanton usually this….slow?
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8:53 |
: still not totally healthy
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8:54 |
: Players look slower with baggy pants. This is a fact
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8:54 |
: are those pants considered baggy?
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8:54 |
: Last year he was an above average runner per statcast
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8:55 |
: 73rd percentile 90 feet run time
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8:55 |
: ^^^^ when he wore his socks high
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8:56 |
: Sure, but still, quite trim.
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8:56 |
: Meg how do you get all the info about the job postings you put up every day?
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8:56 |
: Teams reach out to me to get stuff posted.
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8:57 |
: That’s so cool
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8:57 |
: They’ve gotten some great candidates through our readership, which is pretty rad.
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8:59 |
: Hey folks, I’m back, almost. Just catching up on this game via Tivo after an adventurous hour of trying to convince my 3-year-old daughter to go to bed.
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8:59 |
: Hello there, Jay
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9:00 |
: Hi Jay — once Jay tags in, I’m going to tag out to go edit our Braves/Cardinals game piece.
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9:02 |
: For some number references, Stanton’s 10ft running splits are 84th percentile, even though his 90ft splits are 73rd percentile, indicating some of of his “speed” comes from acceleration. He’s been negative on both his burst and reaction in the field.
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9:02 |
: and I’m up to live action just as Giancarlo Stanton makes a hash of things for the second time in left field. Woof
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9:02 |
: Ok pals, enjoy the rest of the chat — might duck back in post editing.
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9:02 |
: Jay, does the li’l tyke still call home runs ‘baseball runaways’?
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9:02 |
: Thanks Meg
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9:03 |
: She does, and it’s adorable. Which I try to remember in her less adorable times
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9:03 |
: Bye, Meg!
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9:03 |
: re: Stanton’s run times – would be interesting to see if there’s a correlation with body type and speed tendencies
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9:04 |
: (backpocket idea for a piece, perhaps)
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9:05 |
: Ottavino’s SL horizontal movement is 116% better than league average
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9:05 |
: Lots of spin, lots of movement, lots of weak contact
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9:05 |
: wow
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9:06 |
: Arraez’s -8 DRS in 390 innings doesn’t look like an aberration
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9:07 |
: he’s had a rough time out there from what I’ve seen. Gotta assume he’s not 100% right now too. Rusty, at the very least. Hey, we saw Kolten Wong, statistically the best this year at 2B, have trouble yesterday as well
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9:08 |
: Think the Yankees bring back Gardner next year?
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9:09 |
: I suspect this is their last time around but I guess it depends on whether Hicks needs surgery. The roster really doesn’t have a center fielder besides Hicks and Gardner, unless they can find all of Jacoby Ellsbury’s body parts
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9:10 |
: Kahnle has more than doubled his changeup usage since 2017 and the average launch angle against it this year is negative. xwOBA of .192. Also in the 92nd percentile in fastball velocity league-wide. Should see a lot of high four seamers, low changeups here
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9:11 |
: Or just, ya know, one pitch…
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9:11 |
: How bad would the Yankees have to loose for Aaron Boone to lose his job
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9:12 |
: Ottavino is from Brooklyn (as is Betances) and Kahnle is from the Albany, NY area. NYY hasn’t had to stray too far from home for this bullpen!
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9:12 |
: if they were eliminated in two games, he might be fired. Other than that, he’s staying.
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9:14 |
: the job that Boone did this year, amid all of the injuries, keeping this team in the hunt for the best record, has bought him a fair bit of leeway
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9:15 |
: Judge almost sentenced that ball to die. Nearly hit the LF pole
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9:16 |
: Boone manager of the year?
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9:16 |
: I’d say it’s either Boone or Baldelli
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9:18 |
: Nelson Cruz’s contract option is any easy pickup for next year, right? Even with some decline he’s still crushing
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9:18 |
: Yes
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9:18 |
: It’s very tough to get the “exceeds expectations” credit needed for MoY when you’ve got a $200M payroll but given the injuries, this is a case where it’d be merited. Then again, the Twins not just winning but running away with the AL Central as a powerhouse was well beyond expectations
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9:19 |
: oh, heavens yes on Cruz. $12 million option? No-brainer
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9:19 |
: Isn’t Tauchman able to play CF?
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9:21 |
: He had positive metrics… in 99 innings. I don’t know that he’s gonna be able to pull that off full-time, though Statcast does like him in terms of jumps, sprint speed, and outs above average
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9:21 |
: *I* certainly didn’t see enough of him out there, but like i said, it was only 99 innings
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9:21 |
: Duffey’s xwOBA-against is in the 94th percentile and his slider has 33% above average sink
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9:21 |
: Kevin Cash a strong candidate too
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9:22 |
: yes indeed.
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9:22 |
: A little fun fact, Tyler Duffey went 26 appearances without giving up a run the end of July to the end of September, that’s the longest in the bigs in this season (Pressly’s was over two seasons). And the peripherals back it up too, he’s doubled his strikeout rate. Him and Taylor Rogers can match up with anyone in baseball.
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9:23 |
: As I said in my preview, the numbers on these two teams’ top five relievers are very, very close. Anybody sleeping on this Twins bullpen does so at their peril. Not the hardest-throwing bunch but no slouches
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9:23 |
: Wes Johnson magic!
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9:23 |
: Tauchman is out w/injury, no?
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9:23 |
: yes, this concerns the Gardner return question.
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9:24 |
: Jay can u answer fantasy questions by chance haha
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9:25 |
: chance is the only way I’m going to get one right. I haven’t played fantasy in 9 years, haven’t written for a fantasy pub in 6-7.
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9:25 |
: I started cooking burritos at the beginning of the fifth innings. They are cooked, eaten and the innings isn’t remotely over yet
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9:25 |
: how were they?
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9:26 |
: I would like Stanton to invent a new thing to do with the bat after each walk. Slam, flip, toss, shoot out of t shirt cannon. Anything to keep it interesting.
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9:26 |
: I support all of this
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9:27 |
: Will we be doing a Nats-Dodgers chat?
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9:28 |
: I don’t believe so officially but I’m willing to stick around if you guys want to, for at least a little while. At this rate, the games might end at the same time, too
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9:28 |
: I want to know about Geoff’s burritos
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9:28 |
: The burritos were as good as Stanton’s night
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9:29 |
: bases loaded, full count, here we go
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9:29 |
: Man, if you can’t make a competent burrito, that’s on you
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9:30 |
: Giancarlo’s last 2 ABs have been good, but he’s been bad in the field, so the burritos were…ok?
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9:30 |
: Exactly
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9:31 |
: Torres with the scorcher off Sano’s glove, 2-run double, and the Yankees have their biggest lead.
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9:36 |
: First pitch coming in LA soon and we’re STILL only in the 5th inning in New York. We have Too Much Baseball Going On, and I’m going to have to move off the couch and to my office to get two screens going.
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9:36 |
: Is it safe to say the Braves Shane Greene trade was a fail?
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9:36 |
: so far the results haven’t been great but the Braves have another year of club control so yes, too early
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9:38 |
: Is this one continuous chat until all of the games are over?
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9:38 |
: Folks — Jay is going to focus mostly on this Yankees-Twins game and I’m going to shift mostly to Dodgers-Nationals
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9:38 |
: Thanks Josh!
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9:38 |
: we all fall asleep on the couch until Meg comes back to wake us up and send us to bed
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9:38 |
: This is true
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9:40 |
: Bunting 🙁
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9:40 |
: Probably not the most ideal first inning strategy
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9:40 |
: Lol bunt popouts are fun. I am biased though.
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9:40 |
: Nats fan?
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9:41 |
: wow, homer by Sano that just made it into the first row. Twins have a 3-0 homer advantage but are still down 5-4
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9:44 |
: Kershaw walks Rendon, 2 on and 1 out in the 1st in LA. Soto up
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9:47 |
: Bases loaded against Kershaw
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9:48 |
: Will Smith does a very nice job framing on the corners, for anyone interested in that sort of thing
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9:50 |
: Smith started a bit shaky early on in terms of framing, but this series so far he’s been masterful at it
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9:50 |
: yeah, his minor league metrics were always strong
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9:50 |
: Sorry, toddler detour. I’m back. I think she’s reached her mound visits count
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9:51 |
: She is all of us
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9:52 |
: How do they not check on that check swing??
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9:53 |
: Is there a consensus on Sanchez’s defensive ability? Or is it too volatile over the last few years to have a legitimate opinion?
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9:54 |
: I have to wonder how much the groin/lower body injuries have had an impact on his framing. When squatting is no fun I have to think everything is that much harder. I also think there’s been so much complaining about his blocking that focusing on that may have compromised his framing.
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9:58 |
: Strasburg’s curveball — which is excellent — is his most-used pitch. Everything in his arsenal has above average horizontal movement. The xwOBA against his changeup this year was .189 and the average launch angle was 0
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10:00 |
: and now it’s DJ LeMahieu with a big solo homer. 105.7 off the bat, 426 feet on a fastball down the middle. he didn’t miss it, folks
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10:01 |
: Dodger fans, how does Turner get pine tar on that particular part of his back?
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10:01 |
: Lots of pine tar, lots of practice swings
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10:03 |
: So what does Austin Barnes’s future in LA look like?
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10:03 |
: He’s still a plus defender who is under team control. I would imagine the answer has a lot to do with the answer to what Keibert Ruiz’s future looks like
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10:04 |
: you guys it’s a home run
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10:05 |
: That’s 5 with many hours of baseball left
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10:05 |
: Gardner, 103 off the bat, 375 to right field. Five solo homers tonight. This is what’s made me weary of the flood of ’em, when it’s just solo after solo after solo. Well-hit balls, but you don’t get as much drama as the big 3-run homer that breaks the dam open in a pressure-packed situation.
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10:10 |
: Does Kershaw look physically well? Command has been especially poor tonight.
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10:10 |
: I certainly don’t want to speculate from a TV feed, but he hasn’t been great thus far
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10:12 |
: Adam Eaton with an RBI single, 2-0 Washington in the top of the 2nd in LA
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10:13 |
: Rendon with a double off the wall to score Eaton
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10:13 |
: Not a good start for Kershaw
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10:14 |
: I thought that ball was well gone off of Rendon’s bat, kind of surprised that stayed in the park.
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10:15 |
: The broadcast keeps dwelling on Kershaw’s curveball — to be clear, it has been his third-most used pitch for a decade. He throws a fastball or slider almost 83% of the time. He isn’t locating, but the mix isn’t abnormal
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10:15 |
: @Dystopian Future same here
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10:18 |
: So who pitches the 8th for the yankees ???
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10:18 |
: Does Soto usually struggle as much against lefty sliders as his last three at-bats would suggest?
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10:18 |
: Quick glance at Statcast says no
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10:18 |
: Emphasis on quick glance
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10:18 |
: that’s a good question, as they’ve burned through Ottavino, Kahnle, Green and now Britton, leaving them Chapman from among their top 5.
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10:19 |
: wow, that is a big catch from Judge.
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10:19 |
: that 19 DRS from him in 2/3 of a season is looking about right
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10:20 |
: I’m thinking Severino in the 8th for his throw day. Let’s get a little nuts.
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10:21 |
: Is there an LA-WAS chat or should we all just ramble here?
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10:21 |
: For now, I’m on LAD-WAS and Jay is on NYY-MIN
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10:22 |
: Wow Stephen Strasburg looks good
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10:22 |
: we’re all just rambling. I’m past my pitch count
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10:22 |
: So who cleans up the mess for Kershaw? Is Maeda still at all stretched out from starting earlier this year?
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10:22 |
: Urias? May?
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10:22 |
: Stripling
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10:23 |
: Are framing runs offset in the offensive or pitching stats? If a catcher frames a strike out, if he’s credited for it, then the pitcher should see the value of the strike out decrease as they didn’t “earn” it.
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10:23 |
: Framing runs come out of the pitching WAR. Noticed when I was writing about the Yankees’ bullpen, which set WAR records in each of the two previous years, that they had decreased because of our framing stats as well as slight tweaks to the 5-year park factors
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10:23 |
: I think Boone will start with britton and relieve him with chapman as needed unless they get a few runs here and can go to someone like loaisiga or cessa
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10:23 |
: Happ is available in theory too
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10:24 |
: but then I’d have thought he’d be in for the Rosario-Sano-Kepler sequence, with 2 lefties out of 3.
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10:26 |
: What about green?
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10:26 |
: he threw 8 pitches in the 6th, got 2 outs, and departed
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10:28 |
: Doesn’t Happ have fairly neutral platoon splits?
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10:28 |
: oh heavens no. .249 wOBA vs LHB over the past 3 seasons, .324 vs RH. This year, .280 and .345
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10:33 |
: I have embarrassed myself in front of Jay Jaffe
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10:34 |
: unless you’re managing against Happ, no need to be embarrassed. we don’t all walk around with these numbers in our heads or in binders next to us
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10:35 |
: Plot twist: Belli Flop is Rocco Baldelli
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10:37 |
: whoa
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10:37 |
: Yeah I’m on my phone in the dugout.
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10:37 |
: It’s only one game, but Didi Gregorius seems to swing at every pitch, no matter how far out of the strike zone
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10:39 |
: Didi’s been a bit of a mess this year. Maybe it’s because he hasn’t been 100%, or maybe he felt the pressure of missing nearly half his walk year due to TJS while watching Torres play the position adequately, but is 41.1% O-Swing is his worst since his rookie year, and his 84 wRC+ his worst since 2014
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10:39 |
: Nice diving catch there from Soto
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10:43 |
: Seems like the Yankees’ strategy is to make sure that all their relieves will be able to pitch in Game 2 , while Minnesota is mostly burning their guys
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10:43 |
: well the Twins haven’t used Rogers (and won’t need him if the score stays like this), Romo, or May, and the Yankees have left themselves a bit of a rickety bridge to Chapman here by going short with their guys — Ottavino not retiring a hitter, for example
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10:44 |
: Excellent play there by Kershaw
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10:45 |
: And DJ LeMahieu again with the big hit, a bases-loaded double, 10-4
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10:46 |
: 3-for-5 with 4 RBI for Deej tonight.
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10:47 |
: And with that, I think I can shift over to focusing on Dodgers-Nats.
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10:47 |
: Welcome aboard
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10:47 |
: You’ve missed Strasburg being decent
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10:48 |
: Yes but i’ve been spared watching Kershaw, it sounds like
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10:49 |
: They’ve been…not the same
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10:49 |
: Decent?! It’s drool worthy.
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10:49 |
: Second time through the order coming up for the Dodgers
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10:50 |
: and the answer to the Yankees question is Happ pitching in the 8th
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10:55 |
: Strasburg with 47 pitches and 6 K’s in 4 perfect innings. Tough to be much better than he has been so far
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10:56 |
: He’s facing a really good lineup and they’ve looked utterly overwhelmed
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10:57 |
: I haven’t gotten to see much but Statcast tells me that all but one of the balls in play he’s allowed were hard hit (95+)
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10:57 |
: granted, most of them on the ground
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10:57 |
: but a couple with xBAs in the .500 range
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10:58 |
: ^ noteworthy
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10:58 |
: Jay, that one ball was off the bat of Clayton Kershaw
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10:58 |
: yes, I see that
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11:00 |
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11:00 |
: Does Strasburg opt out after this season?
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11:01 |
: I think so, yes. His contract is so complicated with the opt outs and deferred $ but the annual salaries are 20:$25M, 21:$15M, 22:$15M, 23:$45M
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11:01 |
: i have to think he can easily go get more than $100 million now
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11:02 |
: FWIW, Eaton’s F8 had an xBA of .640. Rendon’s single had an xBA of .070
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11:02 |
: Baseball is weird
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11:02 |
: location, location, location
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11:02 |
: lol
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11:05 |
: Bottom 8 in the Bronx. 10-4 Yankees
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11:06 |
: Does Kershaw go another inning after this?
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11:06 |
: I would say most likely, yes
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11:07 |
: Pending what happens in the bottom half of the inning, of course
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11:08 |
Dave Roberts said after Clayton Kershaw’s rough first two innings he wanted to see more breaking balls. This inning typified those adjustments. Kershaw threw 44 pitches in the first two innings (21 fastballs) and 17 in the 5th (two fastballs).
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11:11 |
: Strasburg has gotten 13 outs so far and has 13 swinging strikes, 7 of them on the curve.
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11:14 |
: EJ just said “high degree of soft contact tonight” against Strasburg and… I can’t even.
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11:15 |
: Yeah, there are so many accurate ways to say how good he’s been…
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11:15 |
: Chapman in for NYY
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11:16 |
: they actually need his inning tonight
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11:16 |
: absolutely
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11:17 |
: and there’s the Dodgers’ first it, just as I was pulling up Craig Edwards’ guide
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11:17 |
: KARMA, JAY!
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11:17 |
: 86.4 mph, 20 degree LA
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11:20 |
: Dustin May warming up
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11:23 |
: Your boy, Josh
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11:24 |
: That explains why he didn’t answer my text…
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11:24 |
: lol
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11:24 |
: a little busy, I guess
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11:24 |
: It’s over in the Bronx, folks
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11:25 |
: Yankees beat the Twins, 10-4
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11:26 |
: Big win for the Yankees. Their bullpen won the battle tonight but i’m struck by the fact that 5 of the 7 runs the Twins’ pen gave up were by guys outside of their top 5. Gibson and Stashak. Gotta get your best guys in there when it’s close
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11:27 |
: Couldn’t agree more
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11:27 |
: Especially with such a strong front line in the pen
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11:27 |
: meanwhile, that was a 25-pitch inning for Strasburg but his total pitch count is still just 72
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11:29 |
: And with that, the fact that this isn’t going to be a no-hitter in LA, and that I’ll be in the press box at Yankee Stadium tomorrow, I’m going to tap out and crack open an adult beverage
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11:30 |
: Enjoy, Jay!
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11:30 |
: Josh is going to stick around, though, so you’re in good hands!
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11:30 |
: what do you think Strasburg’s max pitch count is tonight? Like would they go 120+?
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11:31 |
: I would say they’ll have a fairly liberal pitch count for him, yeah
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11:33 |
: Per Joel Sherman, Dobnak starts tomorrow for Min, Odorizzi G3
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11:34 |
: How much more does Cole get that Strasburg on the market? How much does postseason play this year factor into that?
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11:34 |
: Have to imagine quite a bit more. He’s two years younger, has a longer track record of durability, no major injury history, and has been a good bit better
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11:35 |
: I don’t think the postseason would (or should) factor into anything related to free agency for anyone ever
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11:37 |
: FYI to all of you here — there hasn’t been a drop off in readers, so I’ll stick around as long as you guys do to continue chatting. Feel free to keep submitting questions and comments as we roll
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11:38 |
: How much do you think Strasburg improved his future contract outlook by going over 200 innings this year
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11:38 |
: I think it’ll be a big factor w/r/t years, more so than AAV
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11:40 |
: Josh, I don’t think I’ve seen you chat this year on FG. What’s your background, interest, vibe? How can we, the chatters, fit into your particular brand a la Kiley and DanZzzz
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11:40 |
: Haha. I spent three years scouting and coaching in the minor leagues for the Dodgers. We can chat about whatever you guys would like
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11:41 |
: In other words, what silly tangents will you indulge?
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11:41 |
: I’ll let Kiley handle Matt Damon-esque things
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11:42 |
: did you work with any current dodgers?
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11:42 |
: A little bit, yeah
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11:43 |
: More of a Ben Affleck type guy then?
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11:43 |
: Absolutely
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11:44 |
: Rank these pitchers over the next 3 years (walker Buehler, jack flaherty, Tyler glassnow
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11:44 |
: That order seems plausible
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11:44 |
: Are there particular Nats hitters you think May would be better/worse against (and why)?
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11:45 |
: He’d probably be worse against Rendon and better against Strasburg
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11:46 |
: Pedro Baez in for LAD
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11:46 |
: As a former dodgers guy, how much better run is their operation than the giants was pre-Farhan?
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11:46 |
: I don’t know enough about SFG to say and, truthfully, I wouldn’t do so publicly if I did
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11:46 |
: how does scouting/coaching work? Do you spend most of your time with one team? Or on the road like a typical area scout?
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11:47 |
: I covered North Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas and then right after the draft, I left and spent the remainder of the summer through the end of instructional league coaching
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11:48 |
: I will say, Josh Herzenberg is maybe the most middle reliever-y name I’ve seen on FanGraphs
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11:48 |
: I’ve been told worse, so I’ll take that as a compliment
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11:49 |
: A very LA moment: Delaying a playoff game to retrieve a beach ball on the field
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11:52 |
: Kolarek and May up in the pen. Soto is on deck
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11:53 |
: You wrote the called up piece on May, right? That was fun to read–must be amazing to watch him make the postseason roster
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11:55 |
: I’m happy for him and all the players I scouted/coached that are experiencing the postseason
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11:55 |
: Seeing Lux hit the HR yesterday was super cool
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11:56 |
: I wonder if the 3-batter limit means that lefty specialists and low-leverage one-inning bullpen guys get replaced by longer, innings-eater types to try and save the high-leverage one-inning relievers.
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11:57 |
: Solid assumption, I would imagine
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11:58 |
: Does Kolarek face anyone not named Juan Soto this series? And does he show up in every game?
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11:58 |
: Probably not? Maybe?
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12:02 |
: so Lux, May… What about Buehler, Beaty, Will Smith? Are all those instructional guys?
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12:02 |
: I never worked directly with Beaty. I was in Ogden in 2016 and Rancho Cucamonga in 2017, and then instructional league in the fall
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12:03 |
: have the nats announced their pitching yet for 3/4? I assume scherzer for 4.
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12:04 |
: Scherzer has been announced for 3
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12:05 |
: Good AB here from Soto
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12:07 |
: Well, it’s Dustin May vs Howie Kendrick. Here we go.
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12:07 |
: May!!! Cool cool.
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12:07 |
: (ok, going back to editing now)
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12:08 |
: I assume you popped back in because my slack notifications are on mute
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12:08 |
: Now that you are no longer working in MLB/Dodgers, are you able to be a fan? Or does it make it harder (like other writers have talked about)?
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12:09 |
: Yeah, definitely. I grew up a Yankee fan in the NYC area, but now I have a lot of friends in the game. I mostly just hope they all do well
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12:11 |
: I coached both the guys in the battery here and I signed the pitcher
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12:11 |
: To be clear, he was not this good in high school. If he was, we would have drafted him much earlier than the 3rd round
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12:15 |
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12:16 |
: Really cool to have this kind of perspective at fg, Josh. Reading some of your work as I watch – particularly dug the May piece and the Nogowski piece
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12:16 |
: Thanks!
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12:16 |
: Strasburg was fantastic tonight
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12:16 |
: Scherzer warming
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12:17 |
: has a team ever used its top two starters as relievers AND starters like this before
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12:18 |
: I mean the Red Sox did a lot of having starters in relief last year with a shaky bullpen.
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12:20 |
: Muncy. That was a bomb.
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12:20 |
: 103.5 mph, 29 degree LA, 413 feet
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12:23 |
: so thinking about what the Nationals are thinking… 2 innings from Scherzer and get out of LA tied 1-1?
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12:23 |
: The Johnson/Schilling Dbacks, as I recall, did a lot of that
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12:25 |
: or was that like Kershaw a few years ago, that the warmup doubles as his “side day”, and he’s likely not pitching the 8th
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12:26 |
: Do you think they’d still go with Scherzer game 3 then if that were the case?
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12:28 |
: Depends on the pitch count. Today is likely a throw day for him, so possibly
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12:28 |
: I’d guess Scherzer has a pitch limit of ~30 and if they need another arm they go with Hudson?
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12:28 |
: I imagine it doesn’t particularly matter whether Scherzer starts game 3 or game 4 if you win this game, so I guess you might as well use him to even the series up ehre
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12:30 |
: You can use 3-days rest Corbin in game 4, might mean they’d prefer to use Scherzer in game 3
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12:32 |
: Might be time to consider Jansen warming
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12:32 |
: It seems unlikely that kind of system could last too long, right?
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12:33 |
: that was a great at-bat from Suzuki
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12:33 |
: Seems like Robles might have tweaked something there
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12:35 |
: …shouldn’t have Suzuki scored there?
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12:35 |
: The rare RBI TOOTBLAN
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12:35 |
: TOOTBLAN
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12:35 |
: TOOTBLAN
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12:36 |
: Who gets the last 6 outs for the Nats? Scherzer? Hudson?
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12:38 |
: Scherzer in
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12:39 |
: Who is Josh Herzenberg?
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12:39 |
: Per some people here, I think I am a Batman-loving middle reliever
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12:41 |
: Can confirm that Lux didn’t see sliders like that in the Pioneer League or the Cal League…
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12:41 |
: That was…a swing
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12:42 |
: Hudson up in the pen
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12:43 |
: If you read The Arm by Jeff Passan, it’s really easy to root for Daniel Hudson
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12:44 |
: Agreed
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12:44 |
: Also not-so-shameless plug…Jeff did a fantastic job on that book and if you haven’t read it, you should
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12:45 |
: That inning was impressive as hell
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12:45 |
: seriously. This Scherzer kid looks good
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12:45 |
: Might have a future
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12:45 |
: Where did the Nats find this random 35 year old reliever? He looks pretty good out there
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12:46 |
: Disney movie coming out soon
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12:48 |
: Urías has given up some of the softest contact in the league this year. Hard Hit % against is 100th percentile, as is EV against. xwOBA, 89th, xSLG, 94th
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12:49 |
: Very high spin fastball
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12:51 |
: Think he’ll fare well as a starter next season? I imagine going from ~70 IP to double that (or more) takes its toll
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12:52 |
: Yeah, it’ll all depend on how the shoulder holds up. He was a starter through the minors and maintained his stuff every time I saw him there, so he’s capable of length, it just depends on health
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12:52 |
: The surgery he had was pretty serious
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12:52 |
: I would imagine, should they fully transition him back, they’ll be conservative
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12:53 |
: IP totals would likely mirror Tony Gonsolin’s in the 2018 minor league season, which was his first as a starter
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12:57 |
: what’s your take on Gonsolin? Does he have any more projection given his late start to pitching?
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12:58 |
: #4 starter upside. Good athlete. Very good splitter
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12:59 |
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1:02 |
: Just finished my softball game. Hustled home to catch the end of this last game and this chat!!
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1:02 |
: Lots of weird emotions about this name, FKT
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1:04 |
: What’s the narrative if the Nats blow this one? Should’ve stuck with Scherzer for 2 IP?
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1:05 |
: We’re in a Good Place
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1:06 |
: The Best Place seemed intriguing
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1:06 |
: FKT FTW
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1:07 |
: I’d guess it’d be that they should’ve let Strasburg go longer. He only went 85 pitches (though on 2 days rest, and T7 went long, so IMO it’s defensible)
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1:08 |
: Bold strategy here, Cotton
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1:10 |
: Well, this turned interesting
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1:10 |
: Does Seager swing at the first pitch in this situation?
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1:11 |
: Well, there isn’t anyone else they can put in, at least nobody better.
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1:14 |
: Is Jansen warming?
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1:14 |
: Great pitch
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1:15 |
: 4-2 final
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1:15 |
: Thanks for chatting Josh!
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1:15 |
: Thanks Josh!
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1:15 |
: and everyone!
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1:16 |
: Well, folks, this has been a lot of fun. I’m beyond 7 hours of chatting so I’m going to bid you all adieu. Thanks for joining for an evening full of great baseball and great fun. Let’s do it again some time!
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1:16 |
: Thanks Josh!
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Meg is the editor-in-chief of FanGraphs and the co-host of Effectively Wild. Prior to joining FanGraphs, her work appeared at Baseball Prospectus, Lookout Landing, and Just A Bit Outside. You can follow her on Bluesky @megrowler.fangraphs.com.