2015 World Series Game Five Live Blog
| 7:41 |
: hello, all!
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| 7:42 |
: We’ll get this thing started shortly before first pitch. Here’s to another good night of baseball
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| 7:56 |
: commence chat!
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| 7:56 |
Screw the World Series, lets talk discuss who was better, John Olerud or Jeff Kent. |
| 7:56 |
: Getting to the important stuff early. I like it. I’ll take Olerud’s career
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| 7:59 |
Who makes more in free agency, Alex Gordon or Yoenis Cespedes?
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| 7:59 |
: Cespedes
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| 8:00 |
: Gordon is probably a little more valuable, but Cespedes is younger and there’s going to be a bidding war for his services. I feel like there’s enough mutual interest between Gordon and KC that he returns relatively easily
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| 8:02 |
: I think Cespedes will get a lot more than Gordon. Cespedes just had a career year, is younger, and power pays more than defense. Gordon might get $100 million, but Cespedes will likely get at least 50% more than that.
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| 8:03 |
Any guesses at those Gordon and Cespedes contracts? |
| 8:03 |
: Cespedes probably in the 6/140 range
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| 8:03 |
: Gordon… 4/100?
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| 8:03 |
: five with an option perhaps
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| 8:03 |
How much does Heyward make? |
| 8:03 |
: 10/200
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| 8:04 |
are you guys as high on AROD as an analyst as the rest of us are? |
| 8:04 |
: he’s been pretty awesome
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| 8:04 |
: I’m guessing Gordon get 6/100 and 7/160 for Cespedes
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| 8:04 |
: He’s had a couple uncomfortable slip-ups, but that’s to be expected from someone with no broadcast experience. His analysis has been great and insightful, and he has a sense of humor
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| 8:05 |
I hope Jessica Mendoza has a permanent spot on ESPN |
| 8:05 |
: Me too. She was the highlight of the broadcasts she was on earlier. Her and Chris Archer
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| 8:05 |
Jessica Mendoza…are you kidding????? |
| 8:05 |
: nope
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| 8:06 |
: A-Rod is great as an analyst, but he’s fortunate that he can still play the game at a high level. Pierzynski was fantastic early in the postseason and could transition immediately to the booth.
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| 8:06 |
: Agreed on Pierzynski. I didn’t want to like him as a broadcaster, but I really did.
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| 8:08 |
Do you really see the Royals giving $100MM to their #8 hitter? |
| 8:08 |
: It wouldn’t surprise me. Great attendance plus two postseason runs has given them a lot of extra payroll space. They were higher than the Mets this year.
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| 8:09 |
How much do you expect Daniel Murphy to get in FA? What team would most likely go after him? |
| 8:10 |
: maybe something like 4/50 and I could see someone like the Angels or Yankees going after him
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| 8:11 |
: worth pointing out that I always end up being on the low side of FA contract predictions
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| 8:11 |
Who will teams regret signing more, Alex Gordon or Yoenis Cespedes |
| 8:11 |
: Depends on the numbers, but Cespedes has a chance to be a pretty bad contract as he hits his late 30s. Gordon’s contract is likely to be shorter and for less AAV making it less likely to bust. I’m not sure I would feel really happy signing either one.
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| 8:12 |
Who signs Heyward to that kind of money? Possibly the Cardinals? |
| 8:12 |
: I think the Cardinals should do everything in their power to retain Heyward, though Craig is the expert on that matter
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| 8:12 |
Yankees sign heyward, trade gardner? |
| 8:12 |
: I don’t see it. Yankees don’t strike me as big spenders in this free agency. I think they’ll make a mid-level signing or two, and possibly address the rotation through a trade
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| 8:13 |
I don’t have a TV. In 2015, am I allowed to say that I LOVE baseball? |
| 8:13 |
: of course
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| 8:13 |
: I could see the Cardinals making the highest offer for Heyward. They have seen his value up close. Could play out similar to the Holliday deal back in 2009.
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| 8:13 |
When did Edinson Volquez get so good? |
| 8:13 |
: when Ray Searage got ahold of him
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| 8:13 |
Washington or the Dodgers could go for Murphy |
| 8:13 |
: also possibilities
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| 8:14 |
gardner and some mid level prospect for kimbrel to form super bullpen? |
| 8:15 |
: I wouldn’t trade Gardner straight up for Kimbrel
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| 8:15 |
If I were the Mets, I’d pay 4/55 if 4/50 was the hi bid |
| 8:15 |
: Especially not given the Yankees current bullpen. That makes 0 sense to me
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| 8:15 |
: I don’t see the Mets going that high on Murphy. They will get a draft pick if someone else signs him.
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| 8:15 |
Gardner had a crappy season! |
| 8:16 |
: Gardner was worth 3 wins with perhaps fluky defensive numbers
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| 8:16 |
:
 Going to be gauging the strike zone tonight for everyone |
| 8:17 |
: alright, enough offseason talk. baseball time!
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| 8:18 |
I sure hope the yankees stay away from murphy.. |
| 8:18 |
: He wouldn’t be a horrible fit for them with the ability to play multiple non-SS infield positions. Not as good as Zobrist though.
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| 8:18 |
: Yep
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| 8:18 |
: #EskyMagic baby
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| 8:20 |
Throw the man a breaking ball please! |
| 8:20 |
: that worked
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| 8:20 |
: couple hot sliders
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| 8:20 |
: yes, good adjustment by Harvey to not allow a leadoff inside the park homer that time
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| 8:20 |
I believe gardner can improve on his production, plus look at his team-friendly contract. Idk..wouldn’t be too out of the question for cashman to play with his name in trade talks this offseason..b |
| 8:21 |
: I do agree that Gardner is worth considering in a trade. But not for Kimbrel
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| 8:21 |
alright ill stop with the yankee talk 😉 |
| 8:21 |
: and I as well
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| 8:21 |
Cain is one of the most underrated players in baseball. |
| 8:21 |
: I’m not sure he’s underrated anymore. I think he’s rightly viewed as a star by most
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| 8:22 |
: Would anyone argue that he’s the best player on the Royals, who are the best team in the AL?
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| 8:23 |
: The most underrated player in baseball is AJ Pollock
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| 8:24 |
Me; I’d say it’s Zobrist |
| 8:24 |
: That was definitely true for a time, but he is not quite the same player he was in his prime.
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| 8:24 |
: Agreed. When Zobrist was one of the 10 or so best players in the game at his peak, he was definitely the most underrated player in baseball. Now, people have realized how good he was, but he’s also lost a step
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| 8:25 |
What do you think the Royals do with Infante? |
| 8:25 |
: not give him playing time next year
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| 8:25 |
: in one way or another
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| 8:25 |
No kidding! Pollock won my fantasy league for me! |
| 8:25 |
Giants fan here. Can confirm: AJ Pollock is amazing. |
| 8:25 |
Thor and Matz set the bar for Harvey, I expect a great performance |
| 8:25 |
: three (maybe four?) swings and misses in the first inning. Good start for Harvey.
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| 8:26 |
: my go-to hot take is that AJ Pollock is a top-3 center fielder in baseball
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| 8:26 |
: you know the first two
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| 8:26 |
97 on that last pitch. Well above where he was in his last start I believe. |
| 8:26 |
: doesn’t look like career-worst stuff this time!
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| 8:27 |
do you know how much more often teams steal in the playoffs compared to the regular season? seeing all these steals make me question why dont teams steal more often |
| 8:28 |
: Could be that teams have more detailed advanced scouting reports, therefore better understand the optimal times to run and take better advantage of it
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| 8:28 |
How much do you think WAR undervalues players w positional flexibity like Zobrist? It probably does undervalue them a bit, right? |
| 8:28 |
: was thinking about this earlier today, actually. I think it probably does
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| 8:28 |
: though I’m not sure it’s anything more than a half a win or so, at most
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| 8:28 |
: could totally be wrong about all of that, too!
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| 8:29 |
: Curtis Granderson: good ballplayer
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| 8:29 |
THE GRANDY MAN!! |
| 8:29 |
the grandy man can |
| 8:29 |
I think there are fewer runs scored in the postseason generally, which would mean that a stolen base is a higher leverage proposition than during the regular season. That should lead to more aggressiveness on the basepaths. |
| 8:29 |
: this too
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| 8:30 |
97 m.p.h. from Volquez? What? |
| 8:30 |
: been doing that most of the postseason
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| 8:31 |
: Great to hear NY fans chanting “Lets go Murphy”
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| 8:32 |
: I’m not sure WAR undervalues positional flexibility much. Most of the benefit comes in the form of extra PA which come through in WAR. It certainly helps in roster construction due to the types of players you can put on your bench, but I’m not sure how valuable that is.
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| 8:32 |
: I really feel terrible for the guy
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| 8:32 |
Royals giving Mets the lead to ensure the 100% effective comeback win strategy. Book it |
| 8:32 |
Is Granderson celebrating with snaps or with the Manziel Money sign? |
| 8:32 |
: he called it “Poetry Slam applause”
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| 8:33 |
: two-seam fastballs that catch the outer corner of the plate are my favorite pitch
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| 8:33 |
: Bartolo does it so well
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| 8:34 |
Isn’t it suspicious that a guy just gets 3-5mph on his fastball all of a sudden? |
| 8:34 |
: Not particularly. Most pitchers get a bump in the postseason, and Volquez averaged 94 mph during the season.
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| 8:35 |
What is the win probability for the mets right now? |
| 8:35 |
: 63%!
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| 8:36 |
: FYI, you can follow along with live win expectancy here: http://www.fangraphs.com/li…
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| 8:37 |
: Re: Volquez velocity boost — also very likely that most starters don’t pitch at maximum effort throughout the postseason. Look at what Verlander constantly did in his prime, ramping up his velocity third time through the order. Volquez is just pitching like someone making his final starts of the season right now
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| 8:37 |
: throughout the regular season* I meant
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| 8:37 |
How is it 63% when they are down 3 games to 1? |
| 8:37 |
: that’s just for tonight.
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| 8:37 |
contact contact contact………error error error |
| 8:38 |
: Royals baseball, apparently
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| 8:38 |
: might have been the slowest double play attempt of the season
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| 8:39 |
: Zobrist and Gordon, the only two patient hitters in the Royals lineup, have both swung at the first pitch tonight
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| 8:40 |
Future idea: Series-win probability overlay for playoff WE graphs? |
| 8:40 |
: this could be fun. I’ll take note of this now to ask Appelman
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| 8:40 |
In North Carolina:’nobody watches baseball here, plus Marriott sponsors football’ but it’s the world series! OK, you can have the small one over there, but no sound. |
| 8:40 |
: Have to think there are a few Harvey fans in North Carolina.
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| 8:41 |
: Harvey is really leaning on his slider tonight
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| 8:43 |
: Harvey: 23 pitches, 12 sliders!
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| 8:43 |
: Harvey looking a lot better tonight. Wonder if both managers will let the starters stay in a while after playing three days in a row.
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| 8:44 |
If you have the ability to amp up 2-3 MPH, how do you resist temptation to do that often, even if it has long term consequences? Baseball is hard. Seems like a lot of guys would just worry about the future when it comes and use whatever is in their abilities to get out of jams. |
| 8:44 |
: I’d wager they go to it here and there
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| 8:45 |
What if Sal Perez burns out after the crazy workloads the last 2 years? He’d never get his free agent payday. Not like he’s a cancer victim but that would be a tough break after all he gave the Royals. |
| 8:45 |
: He’s only 25 and will get another 15 M in options before he turns 30. He might be worn down but I’m not sure there is real danger of his earnings eroding too much. I’d be more worried about his hitting next summer.
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| 8:46 |
: You can see points of Volquez hitting 96-97 in the regular season: http://www.brooksbaseball.n…
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| 8:46 |
Maybe the ones that can’t resist the urge to go all out all the time burn out |
| 8:48 |
I would hope COllins does at least given the bullpen issues |
| 8:48 |
: If he is still pitching like this into the sixth, it will be difficult not to let him keep going. If he starts to slip a bit…
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| 8:49 |
If the Mets manage to win the World Series, should Bobby Bonilla get a ring? I mean, they ARE paying him like a $1 million. |
| 8:50 |
How short a leash do you leave on Harvey considering the off-day tomorrow? |
| 8:50 |
: If his spot comes up in the order in the fifth, you’d have begin to consider, it then. Otherwise, the first sign of trouble thereafter.
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| 8:51 |
:
 Volquez just looks like a different player tonight |
| 8:51 |
When the sun burns out the Mets will still be paying Bobby Bonilla. |
| 8:54 |
: Volquez got heem
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| 8:55 |
: Nice play by Murph!
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| 8:55 |
: I hope he only makes good plays from now on
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| 8:55 |
: Harvey throws first pitch offspeed to Escobar, then induces DP. Strategy worked!
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| 8:57 |
Isn’t the neighborhood play reviewable ? |
| 8:57 |
: force-outs are review-able. I don’t think the neighborhood play is.
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| 8:59 |
My wife on Granderson flying in to make the catch, “Good, don’t let Murphy touch the ball.” |
| 8:59 |
: tough crowd
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| 8:59 |
What’s Harvey averaging for velocity through first three? |
| 8:59 |
: don’t have an exact number, but 95 seems to be the mode right now
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| 9:00 |
: he’s got his good stuff. and it looks like it.
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| 9:01 |
: It’s early, but it looks like we have a pretty tight (or perhaps just accurate) strike zone. Pitchers will have to earn their strikes.
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| 9:03 |
Has anyone ever gone from hero to goat faster than Murphy? NY really does seem to be a what have you done for me VERY recently kind of town |
| 9:03 |
: kind of just the postseason, really
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| 9:04 |
: For those of you interested in that sort of thing, more than twice as many people watched last night’s game than the Notre Dame game on ABC.
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| 9:05 |
: both pitchers look pretty nasty. Volquez just made a bad pitch to Grandy in the first
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| 9:05 |
:
 Still at threat level blue so far |
| 9:05 |
: should I get Chobani flip
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| 9:06 |
: it actually looks pretty appetizing
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| 9:06 |
: reviews?
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| 9:06 |
Do you think the rules regarding the DH not being universal gives any team a distinct advantage in the World Series? |
| 9:06 |
: not for these two teams, but I think generally it benefits the AL team more because they are more likely to have a good hitter either in the lineup or on the bench.
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| 9:06 |
Yogurt is gross. |
| 9:06 |
Chobani Flip is excellent. Some of the best Greek yogurt out there. |
| 9:06 |
: I reject Siegmeyer’s premise, so I’m siding with Tom here
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| 9:06 |
: Yogurt is excellent
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| 9:06 |
yogurt is 50 flavor 70 nutrition |
| 9:07 |
The key lime with white chocolate chips and graham cracker pieces is really good. |
| 9:07 |
: i want this
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| 9:07 |
: commercials worked! I’m gonna get me some Chobani flip
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| 9:07 |
Austin Texas, your def the high man on Yogust flavor. Like Kiley McDaniel and Ozzy Albies |
| 9:07 |
Fage makes more traditional Greek yogurt – Chobani has more sugar |
| 9:07 |
: #YogurtTalk
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| 9:09 |
Harold Reynolds just provided us with his Tim McCarver impression. |
| 9:09 |
: what the hell was that
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| 9:09 |
: wow. Lorenzo Cain really went and swung at that fastball, huh
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| 9:10 |
: can’t tell if Cain looked terrible in that at-bat or Harvey looked awesome
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| 9:10 |
: probably both!
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| 9:10 |
What ever happened to McCarver? |
| 9:11 |
: retirement
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| 9:11 |
Doesn’t he still do Cards games? |
| 9:11 |
: He still does some Cardinals games. Fared pretty well this season.
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| 9:11 |
: I think so. He retired from the national games though
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| 9:11 |
if the series ends tonight, do we have a favorite for MVP? |
| 9:11 |
: Good question. Depends on how KC wins tonight. Wade Davis?
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| 9:12 |
: Man, Harvey looks filthy
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| 9:12 |
: yeah off the top of my head I’ve got no idea about MVP
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| 9:13 |
: Good lord.
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| 9:13 |
: That was a devastating inning
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| 9:13 |
Mvp Escobar.. Maybe zobrist? |
| 9:13 |
KC MVP – Cespedes’s foot |
| 9:13 |
Alex Gordon has had some big hits. |
| 9:13 |
the mvp is volquez if they win today |
| 9:13 |
Cueto? |
| 9:13 |
: There you have it. Consensus!
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| 9:14 |
Harvey seems to be adjusting the “no swing and miss” narrative so far |
| 9:15 |
According to OddsChecker.com, Salvador Perez was the favorite coming into tonight |
| 9:15 |
: gonna take a shot in the dark and say 1 doesn’t win this game
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| 9:17 |
Harvey’s fastballs that inning in order: 95 MPH 95 MPH 96 MPH 97 MPH 96 MPH 98 MPH |
| 9:17 |
: with some nasty breaking stuff
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| 9:17 |
espn’s front page story right now is a nfl game…do more people really care about a single regular season football game than a world series game? that cant be true |
| 9:17 |
: they air NFL games. They don’t have any more baseball games until next year. And tonight’s NFL game will probably have more viewers than the World Series. Sunday night football on NBC has been one of the highest rated shows since its inception. None of that will change the fact that baseball is a much better sport.
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| 9:18 |
I think the troubles the Mets had striking out the Royals in the first two games had more to do w Harvey and de Grom being off than it did w the Royals’ unwhiffable. |
| 9:18 |
: makes too much sense
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| 9:19 |
Seriously how does a batter ever make contact with any pitch ever? |
| 9:19 |
: as good of a question as there is
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| 9:20 |
How much of the nfl’s pooularity is due to gambling/fantasy? Doesnt seem like that many people like the game itself. |
| 9:20 |
: it certainly helped the sport gain in popularity, although I’m not sure how much of it is still the case.
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| 9:20 |
: seems like people really like the “event” of football Sunday
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| 9:20 |
: they want something to get really fired up about
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| 9:20 |
: man, Yoenis.
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| 9:21 |
Does anyone else think Ned Yost looks like a young George Bush? |
| 9:21 |
: been thinking this all World Series. googled “Ned Yost George Bush” and was surprised I didn’t find more than I did
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| 9:22 |
: Not sure how compromised Cespedes is physically right now.
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| 9:23 |
nbc sports front page: baseball… not the nfl. i just really feel as tho espns obsession with football hurts them. id watch espn more often if they at least pretended to care about baseball |
| 9:23 |
: ESPN cares about baseball. They just care about football more, especially when measured in the dollars they spend to air the sport.
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| 9:24 |
Underrated driver of NFL’s popularity is decades-long branding/popularity via NFL Films tying the game to masculinity, blue collar values, militarism. Baseball’s closest equivalent was Ken Burns’ sleepy “Baseball” doc series on PBS. Tons of people who don’t understand football at all as a game still get emotionally wrapped up in the values it represents which is the key to its mainstream popularity. |
| 9:24 |
: that Ken Burns doc is amazing though. was actually planning to rewatch it as soon as the WS ended. might be tonight!
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| 9:25 |
say two of the first three get on here; do you pinch hit for volquez? |
| 9:25 |
: yep
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| 9:26 |
That Burns doc keeps me warm in the winter. |
| 9:26 |
: it’s an annual offseason watch for me. such a pleasure
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| 9:27 |
ESPN long ago switched from a network about sports to a network about promoting the disney family properties |
| 9:27 |
: ESPN is Disney’s cash cow. They make billions in profits every year.
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| 9:27 |
: Man. Couple close pitches by Harvey there
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| 9:27 |
what a take |
| 9:28 |
: Harold Reynolds is the only person I’ve ever heard refer to command as “accuracy”
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| 9:30 |
Harold Reynolds also is the only person I’ve ever heard describe a perfect bunt as foul |
| 9:31 |
: Yeah, not getting that call, Rios
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| 9:31 |
Isn’t ESPN worth approximately 1/4 of Disney’s total net income? Or something similar? |
| 9:31 |
: more like half
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| 9:32 |
that is how you hit a spot holy cowD’Arnaud didn’t move |
| 9:32 |
wow – 98 on the lower corner. Is that one of the most unhittable pitches in the game? |
| 9:32 |
I have never heard the term ‘presentation’ until this postseason |
| 9:32 |
: suddenly, the people who say it appear to be quite adamant about the terminology
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| 9:33 |
Harvey showing that lots of k’s doesnt equal high pitch count. |
| 9:33 |
: the Mets have a 79% win expectancy. in other words, the Royals have them right where they want them
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| 9:35 |
How mixed are Scott Boras’ emotions right now? |
| 9:35 |
: Assuming he has emotions, it has got to be pretty happy to watch his client pitch so well on a big stage.
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| 9:35 |
How ridiculous was the Cespedes-for-NL-MVP narrative this summer? |
| 9:35 |
: very
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| 9:35 |
so the 6th is the 3rd time through the order for Harvey, little nervous for him, the 3rd time has not been kind to Met’s starters this series |
| 9:35 |
: hasn’t been kind to Harvey throughout his career
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| 9:36 |
: don’t know if it’s moreso than other pitchers, but he has a sizable TTO split
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| 9:36 |
Saying presentation makes more sense than saying framing. |
| 9:36 |
: but what Harvey is doing tonight is art.
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| 9:37 |
Isn’t the non-ESPN income also very volatile ? |
| 9:37 |
: that’s true for most movie studios. Depending on the set of movies that come out, they could have a ton of blockbusters or maybe just one or none.
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| 9:37 |
Fox resisting putting up a strike zone box until the AB is over is a ppleasantchange |
| 9:37 |
Is that more this year ( high TTO ). That could be pitch count mgmt related. |
| 9:38 |
: his career OPS allowed third timd time through is .150-.200 points higher than first two
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| 9:38 |
Presentation makes me think of food at a nice restaurant. Framing makes me think of convicting an innocent man of a crime. Presentation is better branding. |
| 9:38 |
What’s in the square/box on the backstop wall to the right of home plate? |
| 9:39 |
: camera?
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| 9:39 |
: I’m actually not sure
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| 9:39 |
It’s a big dish microphone. |
| 9:39 |
: this was my other thought. appears to be behind some sort of plexiglass, though?
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| 9:39 |
that’s where the bird lady from Home Alone 2 watches from |
| 9:41 |
It’s a hot box for front office types who fall into disfavor |
| 9:41 |
It’s HAL |
| 9:41 |
: i’m sorry, Middle-sized Hurt
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| 9:43 |
: good decision by Hosmer there. thought we might have our millionth double play of the night for a second
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| 9:43 |
Which player from each team is most likely to be revealed to have been playing hurt during the Series? |
| 9:43 |
: sal perez
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| 9:44 |
: Cespedes is the easy answer based on performance. I’d imagine David Wright’s always feeling something though
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| 9:44 |
: Lagares is pretty clearly injured, too
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| 9:44 |
It definitely feels like the Mets have to get another couple of runs before the end of the 6th, the win expectancy be damned. They feel like the underdog until that happens. |
| 9:44 |
: so pinch hit here?
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| 9:45 |
Lagares has looked injured all year |
| 9:45 |
: he has been
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| 9:46 |
I wouldn’t, Harvey has been so good |
| 9:46 |
Well, I wouldn’t pinch hit if only because I am keeping on rolling with Harvey. |
| 9:46 |
: always surprising to me how unanimously slow pitchers seem to be
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| 9:47 |
Would it be huge for the Mets though to end up winning 1-0, from a confidence point of view? |
| 9:47 |
: no more so than any other win
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| 9:49 |
Does NYC behave like LA? Is everybody on the Mets’ bandwagon there now? Like the way LA is a Lakers town until suddenly the Clippers are better? |
| 9:49 |
: I think the Yankees retain their fans pretty well.
|
| 9:51 |
I imagine pitchers are more cautious than slow. They run very rarely in general during the game and a leg pull would end their night. |
| 9:51 |
: I prefer to think that they are just so shocked that they made contact, it takes an extra second to get down the line.
|
| 9:51 |
Why does this make me not hate ARod as much? |
| 9:51 |
: Because there isn’t really all that much to hate him for over many other similar athletes.
|
| 9:51 |
Greg Maddux running the bases in a jacket was a treasure |
| 9:52 |
Feels like this is the Royals inning |
| 9:52 |
: noted
|
| 9:52 |
Closet Met fans coming out, but few converts. |
| 9:52 |
: I love A-Rod. Loved him before this October, love him more now that I know he’s an awesome analyst
|
| 9:53 |
Third time down the order, Royals get one in the sixth. Book it |
| 9:53 |
What percent of pitchers do you think could become major league caliber with a year or so of working on hitting? Like Bumgarner and Greinke probably could. |
| 9:53 |
: 11%?
|
| 9:53 |
: they’d need to have started that preparation earlier though
|
| 9:54 |
: like in the minors
|
| 9:55 |
Chris Archer has been wonderful too |
| 9:57 |
Besides A-Rod who are some current players that will be go into broadcasting? |
| 9:57 |
: hard to say. matters more about their desire to do it than what we perceive their abilities to be
|
| 9:58 |
Over under 250 million worth of free agents on the Royals? Cueto, Zobrist, Gordon is quite the start to get there |
| 9:58 |
: I’d go over on that one.
|
| 9:58 |
: Have to think there were a bunch of nervous Mets fans on that slow roller to Murphy.
|
| 9:59 |
: Royals aren’t pursuing Cueto in FA, if I recall correctly
|
| 9:59 |
: I’d guess they resign Gordon, get outbid for Zobrist
|
| 10:03 |
Oh come on, he didnt go around |
| 10:03 |
: hmm
|
| 10:04 |
: nice take by Grandy. he’s been great
|
| 10:04 |
I say over too. Hosmer, Cain, and Perez are all in for some nice pay days as well |
| 10:04 |
: Not sure on those guys. Hosmer would need a big year next year, Perez is signed through 2019, and Cain got a late start and he won’t hit FA until he is 31. Cain most likely to get a big payday.
|
| 10:04 |
: Volquez, very very unhappy
|
| 10:04 |
: unrightfully so
|
| 10:04 |
Zobrist is the sort of player that can be an integral part of any team. No one couldn’t use Zobrist! Let us appreciate Ben Zobrist, and those late-blooming versatile players like him. |
| 10:04 |
: hi john
|
| 10:05 |
: Third time through the order not off to a good start for Volquez.
|
| 10:05 |
: who’s warming in the KC pen?
|
| 10:05 |
: if the answer is “nobody, yet” i’m not sure why
|
| 10:05 |
The gimme 3-0 strike is ridiculous |
| 10:07 |
: the two players i’m most rooting for in this WS currently facing off
|
| 10:07 |
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Royals aren’t in playoffs next year. Losing Shields is one thing; losing Cueto, Zobrist, and Gordon is another. |
| 10:07 |
: Making the playoffs is hard, and next year might be the year the young Cleveland team rises up.
|
| 10:08 |
I’m with you on Cleveland. |
| 10:08 |
: Mets baseball right there. but the ball in play and force your opponent to make a mistake.
|
| 10:09 |
: Mets win expectancy, in a 1-0 game, currently 88%
|
| 10:09 |
: what just happened
|
| 10:09 |
Herrera up. Do we see Davis unless they have the lead? |
| 10:09 |
: or a tie in the ninth.
|
| 10:10 |
: that probably hurts a bit
|
| 10:10 |
: gotta love “Let’s Go Yo” chants
|
| 10:10 |
Ned Yost: Best bullpen, slowest hook. |
| 10:10 |
: he definitely has not been as aggressive this postseason compared to last.
|
| 10:11 |
More than anything, I’m just not ready for the season to end and want more games played |
| 10:11 |
: same
|
| 10:11 |
: offseason can be fun too!
|
| 10:11 |
Only two outcomes if he finishes the at bat: GS or K |
| 10:12 |
Roy Hobbs moment …. |
| 10:12 |
Could putting in a terrible reliever negatively affect Win Expectancy? |
| 10:13 |
: nope it’s just base/out state. mentally adjust for the players on the field
|
| 10:14 |
: oh, man. he doesn’t look good at all
|
| 10:14 |
: Lagares will be entering the game in the top half
|
| 10:15 |
: could be Cespedes’ last moment as a Met?
|
| 10:15 |
They just gave up an out keeping him in there. He was never going back in the field. |
| 10:15 |
So stupid. Because Cespedes wanted to pull a one in a million Kirk Gibson moment, he cost his team a chance at a run, when clearly he was nowhere near healthy enough to hit |
| 10:15 |
: Cespedes didn’t make that decision, though.
|
| 10:17 |
Ah, so that’s why the Royals didn’t score in the sixth. They can’t just come back. It has to be a multi-run comeback. Now here we go. |
| 10:18 |
Bases loaded, no outs. Mets will get 1 run. This is why the Royals are able to keep coming back in these games |
| 10:18 |
: bases loaded, no outs, Mets win expectancy: 91%
|
| 10:19 |
: end of inning win expectancy: 85%
|
| 10:20 |
Actual expectancy: about 25% |
| 10:20 |
2 run Mets lead. This series is over. Chill the champagne in the Royals clubhouse |
| 10:21 |
Lil late to the chat. Why is Yost leaving Edision in there? Do you think he’s playing for game 6 and 7 in KC? Is that even a good idea? |
| 10:21 |
: He had looked good, but Yost likely weighed a tired Volquez against a tired bullpen. Looks like he got pretty lucky, but this is not even the first time this has happened this postseason with Volquez.
|
| 10:21 |
You have to think that its just going to be Harvey/Familia right? |
| 10:21 |
This will be the infamous inning which will spurn many articles tomorrow about leaving Harvey in too long |
| 10:22 |
: should be a short hook this inning for sure. Gotta have someone ready to bridge the gap between Harvey/Familia
|
| 10:22 |
Each game’s hat poll I’ve seen show people picking the Mets but 98% of the comments in the chat are about how the Royals are going to win. |
| 10:23 |
: kinda sums up the Royals perfectly though right
|
| 10:23 |
:
 Strike zone update: threat level yellow |
| 10:26 |
: This Mets crowd is awesome tonight
|
| 10:26 |
Harvey! The man has risen to the ocassion |
| 10:27 |
If Harvey gets through this inning, do you go to the bullpen in the 8th? It’d be the 4th time through the lineup at that point |
| 10:27 |
: I don’t let him face Zobrist.
|
| 10:28 |
Although his night looks to be done with a PH likely in the bottom of the inning |
| 10:31 |
Yes |
| 10:31 |
: that hit ends Harvey’s night, probably
|
| 10:32 |
: welp
|
| 10:33 |
This seems dangerous. |
| 10:33 |
This feels like a mistake.. |
| 10:33 |
I dont think Harvey hits if Flores gets on |
| 10:33 |
: agreed
|
| 10:34 |
Terry Collins apparently accepted Yost’s challenge as to who could keep their starter in too long. |
| 10:34 |
The double play makes this an easier call, but I’d take Harvey for a fourth TTO over Clippard being terrible again |
| 10:35 |
: perhaps telegraphing the level of confidence Collins has in his non-Familia relievers
|
| 10:36 |
Definitely dont trust Clippard. Reed was hit hard last time. Robles is a wild one. Colon and Niese arent exactly anyones definition of a good high leverage option. Gilmartin is collecting dust. Thor? |
| 10:37 |
: let Harvey face batters a 4th time before you use Thor. I don’t think that’s even an option
|
| 10:38 |
: Colon/Niese honestly seem like the most trustworthy candidates right now. I’m a big Robles fan too but he seems pretty low on the pecking order
|
| 10:38 |
Do you agree with leaving Harvey in? |
| 10:38 |
: I wouldn’t have done it.
|
| 10:38 |
I answered yes to the poll because even if Harvey were as good as his PH replacement, he should be taken out anyway. |
| 10:38 |
2 outs no one on? I dknt have a problem. Especially withhow the Mets bullpen has pitched this series. |
| 10:39 |
OK We know now . Famila the next guy |
| 10:40 |
I know I’m alone here, but I’d let Harvey pitch the 9th if he gets one more quick out here. |
| 10:40 |
: AWESOME Mets crowd. Awesome.
|
| 10:41 |
I think it is defensible. Neither a good nor bad decision. |
| 10:41 |
: He got the desired result.
|
| 10:42 |
: Harvey just shoved.
|
| 10:42 |
: of course
|
| 10:42 |
Heat Familia, let Harvey go out for the 9th. Why not? He’s not pitching again this year, most likely. |
| 10:42 |
I think Familia has to come in now. No way should harvey face the middle of the order. |
| 10:42 |
Let him start the 9th! |
| 10:43 |
You cant leave Harvey in for the 9th, right? Familia has 2 blown saves, but he’s really only thrown one bad mistake pitch |
| 10:43 |
: consensus!
|
| 10:43 |
: I say no, FWIW
|
| 10:44 |
: I hate the “let him go until he puts a guy on” tactic. When he puts a guy on, the Mets are suddenly one pitch away from a tie game.
|
| 10:44 |
I changed my mind about trading Matt Harvey. I think the Mets should keep him. |
| 10:44 |
: I have a feeling you are not alone in that thought.
|
| 10:46 |
I dont care what the numbers say. I love watching starters go deep. No matter how irrational it is. Of course not every starter should have the beneift of the doubt. |
| 10:46 |
: Well, Matt Harvey told TC “no way you’re taking me out”
|
| 10:46 |
: Kinda love that
|
| 10:46 |
: even though I think its in the Mets best interest to let Familia start the inning clean
|
| 10:47 |
yeah that was great work by Fox right there |
| 10:47 |
Awesome dugout exchange |
| 10:47 |
I absolutely love that. |
| 10:47 |
The rational part of my brain says “take him out” though. |
| 10:47 |
: ^this is where I’m at
|
| 10:47 |
I think they keep Harvey on because Jeurys is so hittable atm |
| 10:47 |
: just like Harvey was so hittable coming into tonight too
|
| 10:48 |
The Mets have no legitimate defensive replacements d they ? reynolds ? Uribe ? |
| 10:48 |
: Not really. Lagares is in already.
|
| 10:50 |
I hate the idea of having Familia blow a third save, considering how great he was all year. |
| 10:50 |
: maybe he won’t?
|
| 10:50 |
: great quip from Rosenthal
|
| 10:51 |
: Harvey is pitching the ninth.
|
| 10:51 |
: let the record show, this chat was 2-to-1 against this decision
|
| 10:52 |
: Mets win expectancy currently 94%
|
| 10:52 |
I meant at 2B or SS. |
| 10:52 |
: Tejada injury pretty much took care of that possibility, unfortunately.
|
| 10:53 |
Who has a 94% chance of having to chat with us tomorrow |
| 10:53 |
fangraphs chatters should make all in game decisions. |
| 10:53 |
: The Dream Team, Cameron and Sullivan, have the final two games
|
| 10:54 |
: if necessary!
|
| 10:54 |
: I can’t get enough of this Mets crowd tonight. Awesome
|
| 10:54 |
This is so silly, the reason why you employ a manager is to say no to the player in this circumstances. |
| 10:55 |
Statistically, isn’t either decision overwhelmingly likely to work out? |
| 10:55 |
: yes, but it’s all about putting yourself in the best position!
|
| 10:56 |
Schilling comparison should be driving Boras nets |
| 10:56 |
Nuts |
| 10:56 |
Oh to be a fly on Scott Boras’ wall right now |
| 10:56 |
Reason so much managerial conventional wisdom is centered around keeping players happy is that in a 162 game season its not a huge tradeoff versus optimal tactics. World Series is totally opposite. |
| 10:56 |
: this is a good point
|
| 10:56 |
: welp
|
| 10:56 |
: Familia. Now
|
| 10:56 |
: wow
|
| 10:56 |
He needs to come out now … |
| 10:56 |
This is so stupid. |
| 10:56 |
wait wat |
| 10:56 |
Ok this is stupid |
| 10:56 |
Oh boy. Please dont let it end like this. |
| 10:57 |
: oh boy
|
| 10:57 |
: Royals have gained back 14% of win expectancy
|
| 10:58 |
: Now 31%!
|
| 10:58 |
: The poll was right.
|
| 10:58 |
: Odds are now 65/35 Mets. Was just 94% a second ago
|
| 10:58 |
This is so not fair to both Harvey and Familia |
| 10:59 |
At least Jeurys is very Familia with this type of situation. |
| 11:00 |
Harold Reynolds “you can’t say no to the player (harvey)”. So why bother having a manager if they aren’t going to make such decisions? |
| 11:00 |
: this is a very good question that rarely yields a satisfactory answer.
|
| 11:01 |
Debate all you want about starting Harvey in the inning, but letting him face Hosmer is pretty much inexcusable |
| 11:01 |
: I don’t think you should ever start a pitcher in an inning where you are willing to take him out if he lets one guy get on.
|
| 11:01 |
: agreed
|
| 11:01 |
: might agree more with Craig’s response though
|
| 11:02 |
: Tying run to third base.
|
| 11:03 |
jeez.. I love baseball… |
| 11:03 |
: me too
|
| 11:03 |
: Oh my god.
|
| 11:04 |
: Are you serious, Eric Hosmer
|
| 11:04 |
: He looked like he was going to be out by a MILE
|
| 11:04 |
holy crap |
| 11:04 |
Holy crap |
| 11:04 |
: how do you make that read
|
| 11:04 |
: this Royals team is absoutely god damn unbelievable
|
| 11:05 |
If they win the WS that’s their “moment” |
| 11:05 |
I don’t believe what i just saw. |
| 11:05 |
how do you have the balls to do that |
| 11:05 |
Terrible play by Duda |
| 11:06 |
Giving Familia a blown save is very unfair here. |
| 11:06 |
so much for headlines about matt harvey’s gem |
| 11:06 |
was it outstanding baserunning or just a terrible throw by duda? |
| 11:06 |
: might have been both
|
| 11:06 |
: quick glances at the replay, it actually looks like it might have been closer at home than I’d originally expected
|
| 11:06 |
: ehhhh good throw gets him. nevermind.
|
| 11:08 |
that’s a terrible decision by hosmer – it’s the process not the outcome, remember? |
| 11:08 |
: Big change in win expectancy, though. Might have been worth the risk.
|
| 11:09 |
These last 2 Royal come backs though are 100% due to bad decisions and errors though |
| 11:09 |
: and devilmagic
|
| 11:09 |
: from Tango: Hosmer added 0.35 wins with that run. Had he been thrown out, would have cost 0.17 W. Basically, needed to be safe 33% of time to justify.
|
| 11:10 |
: wow, Harvey’s reaction was brutal
|
| 11:10 |
: gut-wrenching
|
| 11:11 |
Was it Hosmer or the 3rd base coach? |
| 11:11 |
: Hosmer on this one.
|
| 11:12 |
Harvey and Familia were set up to fail. |
| 11:12 |
: it does not look like either one was put in the best possible situation to succeed.
|
| 11:13 |
The best argument for the Mets to win here: We get more amazing baseball. |
| 11:13 |
I’m sure Eric “barrels” Hosmer was doing the Tango math in his head. |
| 11:14 |
barrels? What does barrels mean? I don’t get the reference |
| 11:14 |
: barrel of the bat. cliche hitters go-to when talking about hitting. “i’m just trying to put the barrel on the ball”
|
| 11:14 |
: Hosmer is one of those guys
|
| 11:15 |
Extra Innings is ALSO “more amazing baseball”. |
| 11:15 |
Yes |
| 11:15 |
That was one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen. |
| 11:15 |
I never want to hear Eric referred to anything but “Barrels” Hosmer ever again |
| 11:17 |
the worst part about this, is theres almost no way the mets make it back next year or any time soon |
| 11:17 |
: No reason to be that down on them. Also, the game is not over.
|
| 11:18 |
: Funny that, at 0-0 before the game started, the poll was 73/27, Mets. Now, at 2-2 in the 10th, it’s 63/37, Royals
|
| 11:18 |
same could have been said about the Royals last year… |
| 11:18 |
Well, you got me fangraphs. I have now logged into your site because baseball is awesome and I need to chat with you about it. |
| 11:18 |
Royals 100% win expectency now |
| 11:18 |
Hilaroud August. Just belly laughs all around 🙁 |
| 11:19 |
: sorry 🙁
|
| 11:19 |
its not funny, you take harvey ver volquez, you dont take the mets pen over the royals pen |
| 11:19 |
: not saying I disagree with it. just a funny observation
|
| 11:19 |
When do you bring in Davis, if you’re Yost? |
| 11:19 |
: ASAP. You win this game now.
|
| 11:19 |
: no sense in waiting.
|
| 11:20 |
Do we see Davis in the 10th for KC, or wait until they have the lead? |
| 11:20 |
: I would put him in.
|
| 11:20 |
Serious stupid question: is WE at 50% now? |
| 11:20 |
: start of the inning: yes. After Morales K: 55% Mets
|
| 11:20 |
: Consensus!
|
| 11:20 |
: 58% with home field advantage
|
| 11:21 |
WE doesn’t know about Wade Davis |
| 11:21 |
: this is a fact
|
| 11:21 |
WE is also neutral of the players pitching, part of the lineup due up, etc..? |
| 11:21 |
: yes. adjust mentally in your head. shouldn’t be much though!
|
| 11:21 |
: these teams both have plenty of good players!
|
| 11:22 |
WE need a Davis Quotient. It causes your formula to divide itself by zero and then strike out |
| 11:22 |
It seem silly to account for homefield in WE when players, etc. are not factored in anyway |
| 11:22 |
: it’s a constant, though.
|
| 11:22 |
Davis only for 1 inning though, right? |
| 11:22 |
: don’t think this necessarily has to be the case
|
| 11:23 |
No need to save Davis, with the off day tomorrow. Let him go two unless the first one goes long. |
| 11:23 |
: Buck saying Davis only available for 1 inning, apparently.
|
| 11:23 |
Yost said before the game he’s only available for one inning after two yesterday. |
| 11:24 |
familia looking great right now |
| 11:24 |
: for sure
|
| 11:24 |
: Nasty stuff from Familia in that inning. Oh boy, this game.
|
| 11:24 |
Davis not a true talent 0.00 era pitcher |
| 11:24 |
: do we know that for sure?
|
| 11:24 |
MEts have a pretty good offense too btw. Im nervous |
| 11:24 |
: press box rule: you get to call one a game, and no one can judge you when you’re wrong. calling it now — Conforto walk-off
|
| 11:25 |
: it’s just crazy enough to work!
|
| 11:25 |
this may have been asked, but where is marlins man? |
| 11:25 |
: in this case, ignorance is bliss.
|
| 11:25 |
Flores walk off seems most storybook |
| 11:25 |
Dammit August, I was just typing a Conforto prediction |
| 11:25 |
No walk off hrs this post season, right? |
| 11:25 |
: i thiiiink?
|
| 11:26 |
Flores walk off is game 7 though |
| 11:27 |
 this poll attendance graph is fun: |
| 11:27 |
: wonder what caused the spike
|
| 11:27 |
Yep,no walk off HR’s. The only walk off at all was Hosmer’s sac fly. |
| 11:27 |
Bartolo Colon pinch hit walk-off in the 19th |
| 11:27 |
Flores walk-off in game 7? Will the Mets trade him before then? |
| 11:27 |
Flores hitting a walk off HR in KC in Game 7 would be unreal. Literally. |
| 11:27 |
Drama is high but I hope to go to bed before 1:30 tonight…. |
| 11:27 |
: priorities
|
| 11:28 |
: Yost probably saving Davis for top of the order, I’d guess
|
| 11:28 |
: Be surprised if Hochevar faces more than 3
|
| 11:29 |
: I wouldn’t let him, at least
|
| 11:29 |
Should play a drinking game where you drink when Harold bitches about the shift |
| 11:29 |
: dead
|
| 11:29 |
Davis so good you lose runs when he pitches |
| 11:29 |
: the math checks out.
|
| 11:30 |
Which manager do you like better to properly handle extra innings? |
| 11:30 |
: in this game? flip a coin. probably Yost
|
| 11:30 |
: touuuugh pitch.
|
| 11:30 |
would u let familia go 3? |
| 11:30 |
: I’d bring him out and then if he lets anybody get on, bring in a reliev…oh wait. That seems like a bad idea. I think I go to the pen.
|
| 11:30 |
What a great inning. If only they had brought him in with nobody on base and a 2-run lead. |
| 11:31 |
: no Conforto walkoff
|
| 11:31 |
Almost, August. Almost. |
| 11:31 |
No Conforto walkoff…yet. |
| 11:31 |
yet |
| 11:31 |
no Conforto walkoff yet* |
| 11:31 |
If Davis can only go one, does that make it justifiable to go with Hochever instead here? Since you’ll need to get 6 outs to win it, with the last three being Davis? |
| 11:31 |
: unless you never get to the second three outs.
|
| 11:32 |
: High-leverage Kelly Johnson
|
| 11:32 |
We forgot about potential Surprise Uribe walk off |
| 11:32 |
: This would be amazing.
|
| 11:32 |
: KELLY JOHNSON CAN “HIT THE BIG FLT WITH THE BEST OF ‘EM”
|
| 11:32 |
BONDS, SOSA, MCGWIRE, TROUT, RUTH, KELLY JOHNSON |
| 11:32 |
Kelly Johnson=Barry Bonds |
| 11:33 |
He literally can. He occasionally hits a bit fly, and sits in the general vicinity of the best of them. |
| 11:33 |
: that was a big fly, indeed.
|
| 11:34 |
:
|
| 11:34 |
: so, yeah.
|
| 11:35 |
: good throw, he’s out.
|
| 11:35 |
Yeah, but you have to get the 6 outs, no matter what, in some order. So does it matter if you fail to get the first three or the last three? |
| 11:35 |
: I would never want to leave my best arm unused.
|
| 11:35 |
: question is, though, how often is there a good throw!
|
| 11:35 |
How do you guys get to decide who writes about the Hosmer play? |
| 11:35 |
: i’d like to put it kind of seems like Sullivan territory. whoever claims it first. we’ll see how the rest of this game pans out.
|
| 11:35 |
: as of this moment, I’ve got no clue what to write about!
|
| 11:36 |
Has to be 2 good throws. If Wright’s throw isn’t almost perfect they have no chance |
| 11:36 |
Dave Cameron surely gets to write about the leaving Harvey in call, right? |
| 11:36 |
: seems up his alley
|
| 11:36 |
That is the benefit of playing from ahead. Good throw – you are still up one. Bad throw, you could win the series tonight |
| 11:36 |
: agreed, I think that certainly plays a role in evaluating the decision.
|
| 11:36 |
Duda ranked 17th out of 24 1b in arm accuracy, according to Fangraphs’ fan rankings. Surely Hosmer was simply running on the scouting report. |
| 11:36 |
: interesting
|
| 11:37 |
I’m sorry, but are you publishing posts from ‘Anus McGrundleburger’ right now? For real? |
| 11:37 |
: I don’t notice the names, really. and if I did, I would definitely publish as many posts by “Anus McGrundleburger” as I could.
|
| 11:37 |
“Is Bartolo Colon’s 19th Inning Walk-Off the Most Unlikely Event in Baseball History?”-By August Fagerstrom |
| 11:37 |
: title could use condensing
|
| 11:38 |
Does Syndergaard get consideration here? or Degrom? They should. |
| 11:38 |
: I don’t think so
|
| 11:38 |
I think the general idea was – the Mets D is lousy, take every shot you can. |
| 11:38 |
I love when someone has a ridiculous screen-name but is otherwise levelheaded in his or her hot takes |
| 11:38 |
: this is a hidden pleasure of the internet
|
| 11:39 |
What have been the dumbest words said tonight on the broadcast? I’m guessing it will be from harold but anything works. |
| 11:39 |
: might have been just minutes ago: “Kelly Johnson hits the big fly with the best of them”
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| 11:39 |
: Hosmer
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| 11:39 |
: Pasta diving Lucas Duda
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| 11:39 |
“Barrels” sure is a gamer |
| 11:40 |
Whatever words Terry Collins used to allow Harvey back out for the 9th. |
| 11:41 |
: Hosmer baserunning GOAT
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| 11:41 |
Hosmer most definitely scores here. It fits too perfectly |
| 11:41 |
Hosmer can be rearranged to spell Homers. Coincidence? Unlikely. |
| 11:42 |
So Collins already said Matz will not be used again this post season. When 25man roster spots are at a premium why use one for 6 innings? |
| 11:42 |
: Six innings can be pretty valuable.
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| 11:42 |
: MY HEART
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| 11:42 |
: HEART GONNA BEAT OUT OF CHEST
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| 11:42 |
that fly looked iffy for a bit |
| 11:42 |
: thought it was serious trouble off the bat
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| 11:43 |
Hosmer tied for best baserunning among first basemen this year. Seems like a very underrated part of his game. http://www.fangraphs.com/le… |
| 11:43 |
Can someone just end it one way or the other? I dont feel like staying up til 1:30 only to see a sac fly end it in unspectacular fashion |
| 11:43 |
: I was up until 5am writing my post last night. I’d really like an early finish, but I think I’d even rather have a great baseball game
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| 11:44 |
: and by “early” finish I of course mean “sooner, rather than later”
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| 11:44 |
Is it just me, or is d’arnaud a terrible catcher? Forget the framing stuff, but his blocking pitches and throwing to second has been seemingly horrific |
| 11:44 |
: pitchers are part of that, too.
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| 11:44 |
Do bloggers have to wake up early? |
| 11:44 |
: I’ve been waking up at 7:30 throughout the postseason to get my post in by ~11ish
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| 11:44 |
: not the norm, though. in the offseason I’ll write posts day before
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| 11:45 |
: Granderson’s been the Mets’ best player so far in this WS. Let’s see if he can keep it going
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| 11:46 |
Is there any doubt that Terry deserves to be fired after the last two games? They got to the World Series in spite of him, not because of him. |
| 11:46 |
: That’s not happening. Almost all games are won by players. Managers get too much credit/blame, and he managed a team that won the pennant.
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| 11:46 |
How is luke hochevar doing this |
| 11:46 |
: I just learned that Luke Hochevar had way worse of a regular season than I thought he had.
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| 11:47 |
I want to read blog posts first thing in my morning before my boss comes! |
| 11:47 |
: noted
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| 11:47 |
Still cant believe the Mets only have 3 hits. And one started the game! |
| 11:47 |
Btw, from a selfish, I want more baseball perspective and NARRATIVE, I want Wright to hit a HR here. That, or Wilmer Flores. |
| 11:48 |
: Nice positioning by Orlando in RF
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| 11:48 |
: Murphy walkoff could be the greatest moment right now
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| 11:50 |
: Passan saying that Royals scouts he’s talked to were willing to make Duda throw the ball, FWIW
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| 11:50 |
That was a strike … |
| 11:51 |
: very nice take by Murphy
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| 11:51 |
Rank Wright/Flores/Murphy in terms of how incredible their hypothetical walkoffs would be |
| 11:51 |
: right now? Murphy/Flores/Wright
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| 11:52 |
Wouldn’t Duda be the most incredible walk off, given he had a direct impact in the outcome of this game thus far? |
| 11:52 |
: he’d slot between Murphy and Flores
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| 11:52 |
: fat pitch Lagares just took
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| 11:52 |
: I don’t think you look to the on deck circle to get your outs. Seems like poor strategy.
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| 11:53 |
“If he steals he steals” that seems silly |
| 11:53 |
: Maybe he just really likes Rocky IV.
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| 11:53 |
: insanely so
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| 11:54 |
my comments dont work wtf.. |
| 11:55 |
: they need to be approved! and we get a lot of them! sorry if they’re not all getting through
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| 11:55 |
: plenty don’t
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| 11:55 |
I have to be at work at 7:30 tomorrow. Can we do a poll to ask how many more innings I should be willing to stay up? |
| 11:55 |
: a team could win the World Series tonight. you stay up for all of them.
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| 11:55 |
This game ill end with a tootblan again |
| 11:56 |
: god I hope not
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| 11:56 |
: I nominated TOOTBLAN for least pleasing way for a game to end, ever
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| 11:56 |
That’s physically impossible, August. There is a theoretical number where all of us would bail on this game |
| 11:56 |
: death isn’t a number
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| 11:56 |
What about a balk? |
| 11:56 |
: I think walkoff balks are pretty exciting, actually, just in its rarity. Rather have that than a TOOTBLAN
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| 11:57 |
: AND IT BEGINS…
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| 11:57 |
Bloop single. Fitting. |
| 11:57 |
How about a walkoff interference call at 3rd? |
| 11:58 |
: again, rare enough where it would be interesting. TOOTBLAN is the perfect mix of “seeing an athlete at his worst, sucks” and “happens enough to not be rare and interesting”
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| 11:58 |
Coming this summer, to theaters near you. “Death isn’t a number” |
| 11:59 |
TOOTBLAN? |
| 11:59 |
: Thrown Out On The Bases Like A Nincompoop
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| 11:59 |
: AKA how last night’s game ended
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| 11:59 |
: Dyson’d
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| 12:00 |
What’s WE for KC now? |
| 12:00 |
: Royals lead, 77-23%
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| 12:00 |
: Fun fact: Sal Perez’s single is the first time they were favorites all night!
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| 12:01 |
: now, at this second, they’re heavy favorites
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| 12:01 |
How have the Mets been completely unable to throw runners out? D’Arnaud isn’t THAT bad. |
| 12:01 |
D’arnaud takes forever to throw |
| 12:01 |
: ^^
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| 12:01 |
: mostly on the pitchers, though
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| 12:01 |
After watching this series, I really don’t see KC as being anything more than a very lucky good team |
| 12:01 |
: probably true for almost all World Series winners.
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| 12:01 |
: generally speaking, at least.
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| 12:03 |
: situation only
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| 12:03 |
Luck is the new market inefficiency |
| 12:04 |
: times like these I’d love to have heart rate monitors on players
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| 12:04 |
#weirdbaseball |
| 12:04 |
: who, on the field right now, do you think has the highest heart rate? gotta be Reed or Dyson, right?
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| 12:04 |
: Royals now at 70-30, btw
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| 12:05 |
Would Dyson dare attempt a steal of home? |
| 12:05 |
: no, but would be awesome to see.
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| 12:05 |
Heart rate monitors on players would be FANTASTIC. How do we make this happen |
| 12:05 |
: believe it’s been talked about
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| 12:05 |
: seems unlikely but it’s a thing that’s been thought of before right now
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| 12:05 |
European soccer players wear heart monitors. |
| 12:05 |
Colon – his resting heart rate is just that high |
| 12:06 |
How far behind 1B does the pop up to Duda have to be to send Dyson? |
| 12:06 |
: in the grass?
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| 12:06 |
: second time that the absence of Jonny Gomes on this postseason roster has been glaring
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| 12:06 |
If Dyson steals home, the Mets shouldn’t get to bat in the 12th. Just end it there. |
| 12:06 |
How about real balls/strikes before heart rate monitors. |
| 12:07 |
: one of these things dramatically affects the way baseball is played
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| 12:07 |
: Christian Colon.
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| 12:07 |
: Christian.
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| 12:07 |
: Colon.
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| 12:09 |
Huh – I am not entirely sure I knew he was on the team |
| 12:09 |
: oh no Murphy
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| 12:09 |
: oh no
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| 12:09 |
: 🙁
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| 12:09 |
: looked like it jumped up and bit him
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| 12:09 |
According to wikipedia, “”Christian Anthony Colón (born May 14, 1989) is a Puerto Rican professional baseball shortstop for the Kansas City Royals of Major League Baseball.”” Huh. |
| 12:09 |
BOOTBLAN |
| 12:09 |
Daniel “Boots” Murphy |
| 12:09 |
How many runs do the Royals score here? 13? 17? |
| 12:11 |
: Harold Reynolds saying these managers know their players after Collins left Harvey in to start the ninth…
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| 12:12 |
FOX should stay on the game and not cut to commercial after the third out when the teams switch sides. It will add drama. |
| 12:13 |
so again how much of sample size do we need for clutch rating on players and teams? |
| 12:13 |
: we’ve got massive, massive samples. It’s just not predictive. This Royals team has been excellent at it.
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| 12:14 |
This does not bode well for Team More Baseball |
| 12:14 |
: indeed
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| 12:14 |
: Royals being given theoretical 100% odds to win the game right now
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| 12:15 |
It pisses me off even more that all of us who say “Collins shouldnt have left Harvey in” will be seen as Monday Morning Quarterbacks, when we preached it at the exact time that it was ridiculously dumb |
| 12:15 |
: there was a poll and everything.
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| 12:16 |
: all of you who have been giving the Royals 100% odds since the fourth are finally proved right
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| 12:16 |
: @McCulloughStar: They are heading for the exits at Citi Field.
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| 12:17 |
yeah, but saber dudes always say take out the starter |
| 12:17 |
: Yep. There is a reason for that.
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| 12:17 |
if you were building a team from scratch, what qualities would you look for? |
| 12:17 |
: the best players
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| 12:18 |
Reynolds even straight up said that no one watching the game would have taken Harvey out. clearly he doesn’t spend any time on FanGraphs |
| 12:18 |
: think we knew that before tonight
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| 12:18 |
Grit, clutch, luck |
| 12:18 |
: This one’s over.
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| 12:18 |
: well this is just mean
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| 12:18 |
: The Royals are going to be champions of the world.
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| 12:20 |
: Alex Gordon
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| 12:21 |
I want to vote Zobrist but that will make him more expensive and harder for the Royals to keep (as if they had a chance) so I’m going with Wade Davis |
| 12:21 |
“Barrels” MVP |
| 12:21 |
If you don’t vote for Ben Zobrist, I’m gonna need you to turn in your FanGraphs I.D. card |
| 12:22 |
: Ben Zobrist appears to be the chat favorite for WS MVP.
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| 12:22 |
The Royals are the kings of jumping down your throat when you make the slightest mistake |
| 12:22 |
Does Harvey bear any responsibility for insisting on staying in? Apparently the decision had been made but he fought it. Understandable to a point, but does he need to trust his manager and not put him in that position? Or is it on Collins regardless; he has the authority in the end? |
| 12:22 |
: It is Harvey’s job to give all that he can on the field. It is Collins’ job to decide when that is not best for the team.
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| 12:23 |
: my gut instinct is that he’s an athlete, and that’s what he’s wired to do
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| 12:25 |
When would you have pulled harvey? after the 8th, after the leadoff walk or the double? |
| 12:25 |
: I would have pinch hit for him in the seventh.
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| 12:26 |
And who would you have pitch the 8th …. |
| 12:26 |
: probably Familia.
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| 12:27 |
Are we seriously calling Colon a good draft pick now? |
| 12:27 |
: #thepickworked
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| 12:27 |
: Cover It Live finally killed my web browser
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| 12:27 |
: I can no longer publish your comments
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| 12:27 |
: sorry folks. stay on it, Craig
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| 12:28 |
8th inning was against the bottom of the order. Different animal to let him face of meat of the order at 100+ pitches |
| 12:28 |
Collins played with fire on 8th, got away with it, did it again and got burned. |
| 12:28 |
: pretty much
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| 12:29 |
August, if you’re reading this and need to be rescued, blink twice. |
| 12:29 |
: I’m back! for now!
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| 12:29 |
: ninth time is a charm. we’ll see if it lasts.
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| 12:29 |
: That’s 2.
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| 12:29 |
: you guys need a Royals win expectancy update or nah?
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| 12:30 |
Kendrys Morales is telling cautionary tales about celebratory scrums in the dugout |
| 12:30 |
Craig is handsome. August is decidedly less so. |
| 12:30 |
: WHOA
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| 12:30 |
Familia REALLY does not deserve this |
| 12:31 |
August is very handsome |
| 12:31 |
: CUETO
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| 12:31 |
: BEAT WRITERS BETTER START REWRITING
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| 12:31 |
I’m English, follow baseball through watching MLB Gameday, and even I was confused by the manager leaving Harvey in. Obviously you pull him out and it is the manager’s call |
| 12:32 |
Win expectancy update??! |
| 12:32 |
: I believe the Royals expect to win and the Mets do not.
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| 12:34 |
WE was 0.0 and now it’s 0.1. It just increased INFINITELY |
| 12:34 |
: Champions.
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| 12:34 |
: Congrats Royals fans.
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| 12:35 |
: That was a blast of a series. About as fun as a 4-1 could get, methinks. Super happy for the Royals and their fanbase. They deserve this one
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| 12:35 |
: Thanks for chatting everybody. This was an absolute blast
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| 12:35 |
: Paulo Orlando out there with a Brazilian flag.
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| 12:36 |
Thanks August and Craig |
| 12:36 |
: thank you all!
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| 12:36 |
: Thanks everybody. Great game, great season. Have a nice night/morning.
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| 12:38 |
: closing up shop now. goodnight all! thanks again
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August used to cover the Indians for MLB and ohio.com, but now he's here and thinks writing these in the third person is weird. So you can reach me on Twitter @AugustFG_ or e-mail at august.fagerstrom@fangraphs.com.
Royals in 5.
Oh, francis. At least you’re consistent?
Are you Terry Collins?
No.
I’m Yostradamus …………