2016 NL Wild Card Live Blog
| 7:59 |
: Welcome to the NL Wild Card live blog. August Fagerstrom and I will be hanging out with you tonight.
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| 7:59 |
: Let’s do a poll!
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| 8:00 |
: On the question of who you’re rooting for, there’s no wrong answer, unless you picked the Giants.
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| 8:01 |
: Because we’ve all seen enough San Francisco championships lately.
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| 8:02 |
: Do the Giants really draw a bunch of walks? This doesn’t feel like a high walk team.
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| 8:03 |
: Huh, 4th in MLB in BB%. Who knew?
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| 8:03 |
: Just for that, I’m rooting for the Giants tonight
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| 8:04 |
: Do you think Syndergaaard’s problems with the running game will affect this game in any tangible way?
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| 8:04 |
: I think the Giants will run every chance they have.
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| 8:04 |
: The question is how many baserunners they get.
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| 8:04 |
: Brewers 3rd in bb%… also who knew?
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| 8:05 |
: Who will have more combined strikeouts tonight – hitters, or pitchers?
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| 8:05 |
: Hmm. This is either a trick question, or I’m an idiot, but won’t the pitchers and hitters have the exact same number of strikeouts?
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| 8:06 |
: Those options are not mutually exclusive, Dave.
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| 8:07 |
: Hello! I am here now!
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| 8:07 |
: Over/Under 6 hits allowed combined by both starters?
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| 8:07 |
: Over, easily
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| 8:08 |
: Can’t wait to watch this game on significant delay and get all the biggest moments spoiled by this chat!
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| 8:08 |
: So we got one handed August and otherwise occupied Dave. I expect big things from this chat.
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| 8:08 |
: I left the wife with the baby and the dog and found a sports bar.
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| 8:08 |
: So I’m good, at least until the drunks start eyeing my laptop.
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| 8:09 |
: Hot damn, Laptop at the Sports Bar Guy!
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| 8:09 |
: Live-blogging on your laptop in a sports bar is like the epitome of FanGraphs nerdom
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| 8:09 |
: well done Dave
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| 8:09 |
: And if anyone cares, I ordered nachos from the bar for dinner. They are the Ubaldo Jimenez of nachos.
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| 8:10 |
: They were super good 6 years ago?
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| 8:10 |
: Dave, are you drinking at the bar? If so, what’re you having?
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| 8:10 |
: I don’t drink, so water. I’m extra annoying bar attendee.
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| 8:10 |
: But I tip well.
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| 8:11 |
: First pitch from Syndergaard is 98. Mets must be concerned the velo is so low.
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| 8:12 |
: Now 97! Get him out, TC
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| 8:12 |
: A strikeout!
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| 8:12 |
: god you’re sooo far ahead of me dave
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| 8:12 |
: August – why are you streaming? No cable?
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| 8:13 |
: bingo
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| 8:13 |
: I don’t know how anyone ever hits this guy.
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| 8:13 |
: hey Dave isn’t there a way to get the new messages to come in at the top of queue rather than the bottom
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| 8:13 |
: August is the Carson of tonight. He had no idea what was going on all game
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| 8:13 |
: could’ve sworn that was a feature but can’t find it
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| 8:13 |
: How is paying for cable not a tax write-off for sports journalists?
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| 8:13 |
: yeah Dave
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| 8:13 |
: how isn’t it
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| 8:13 |
: You do realize tax writeoffs don’t make things free, right?
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| 8:13 |
: oh
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| 8:13 |
: (It is, though)
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| 8:14 |
: !
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| 8:14 |
: Question: someone on fangraphs said fangraphs says the mets have a 53% chance to win. But on the fnagaohs playoff odds page has them at a 43% chance to move to the division series. What’s the difference?
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| 8:14 |
: The playoff odds on the standings page don’t take pitching match-ups into account.
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| 8:14 |
: Or lineups
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| 8:14 |
: Use the ones on the scoreboard
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| 8:15 |
: Are you going to any of the games in Cleveland August?
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| 8:15 |
: yes I am, Mr. Jay-Z sir
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| 8:16 |
: I will be at them all
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| 8:16 |
: August why aren’t you the one at a bar?
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| 8:16 |
: Just got home for the first time in two weeks! Couldn’t be happier to be in my own apartment
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| 8:17 |
: Wait, you’ve been in the hospital?
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| 8:17 |
: I love that Thor throws a 93 MPH slider
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| 8:17 |
: My strategy against Bumgarner would be to bait him into getting ejected/crazy. The Odell Beckham strategy in baseball
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| 8:17 |
: Mom’s house! Wasn’t really able to do most things on my own until a few days ago
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| 8:17 |
: Well I feel like a jerk for making you work now.
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| 8:18 |
: But I’m just living up to my reputation, I guess.
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| 8:18 |
: I devised a system using a series of pillows and a USB keyboard that put my immobilized arm in a pretty decent position to type.
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| 8:18 |
: Nachos update: they’re actually getting worse as I eat them. They’re now more like the Jared Weaver of nachos.
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| 8:18 |
: what’s on the nachos
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| 8:18 |
: Here’s hoping Thor throws a gem. As a Cubs fan i’d much rather face the Mets for some reason.
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| 8:19 |
: Maybe because all their other good pitchers are hurt?
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| 8:19 |
: Will you be in the press box or just rando seats?
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| 8:19 |
: Nachos have an incredibly steep aging curve
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| 8:19 |
: press box
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| 8:19 |
: Isn’t it Jered?
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| 8:19 |
: These nachos are so bad they’re like Jered’s less talented twin.
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| 8:19 |
: WHAT SAY YE ABOUT THE OTHER GOOD PITCHERS? BARTY ANGRY
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| 8:20 |
: What sports bar are you at, Dave? So we know to never go there and eat nachos
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| 8:20 |
: I don’t want to call them out. They’re letting me live blog here.
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| 8:20 |
: Jay Bruce looks like he won a contest to be an MLB player for a day and just never left.
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| 8:21 |
: lol I’ve never even heard of TJ Rivera
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| 8:21 |
: I’ve seen him referred to as Rene on *Mets* broadcasts on multiple occassions
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| 8:21 |
: They dont know who he is either
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| 8:21 |
: So without cable how are you streaming?
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| 8:21 |
: Hello everyone, 2:20 am here in Czech Republic, go Mets!
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| 8:21 |
: MLB.tv!
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| 8:22 |
: and a PS4
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| 8:22 |
: which is a terrible combination
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| 8:22 |
: MLBtv works perfectly on my Xbox and lags constantly on my Ps4. But the Ps4 is where the big tv is.
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| 8:22 |
: Most first-world problem of all time ^^^
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| 8:22 |
: Surprised Bumgarner didnt go Clemens and throw the ball back at Asdrubal
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| 8:22 |
: (yes i know it was a bat)
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| 8:23 |
: Is Yo’s walk-up music really the Lion King opening credits theme?
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| 8:23 |
: HELL YES
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| 8:23 |
: Cespedes coming out to The Circle of Life is pretty great.
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| 8:23 |
: Posey setting up real high on the heat
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| 8:24 |
: High fastballs: MadBum’s strength, Yo’s weakness. Interesting matchup
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| 8:24 |
: Fun story: when I was a kid, I really wanted the soundtrack, so i traded my brother that I would take his chore of mowing the lawn if he bought it for me (and drove us there to buy it). So he traded mowing the lawn for two years for a $13 tape.
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| 8:24 |
: Couldnt you just switch the PS4 and Xbox….
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| 8:24 |
: Curvesconnect.com hahahaha
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| 8:24 |
: This is a real thing?
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| 8:24 |
: That commercial wasn’t an onion video?
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| 8:25 |
: Aha! But I keep the Xbox in my room to watch (totally legally downloaded) movies/Tv shows on a flash drive in bed, which the PS4 frustratingly does not support
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| 8:25 |
: You are the Dave Stewart of tapes.
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| 8:25 |
: it’s quite the conundrum
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| 8:25 |
: Why is Reyes starting a playoff game?
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| 8:25 |
: he’s actually been good
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| 8:25 |
: plus everyone on the Mets is hurt, anyway
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| 8:26 |
: but even if they weren’t, Reyes has been surprisingly solid.
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| 8:26 |
: Other best walk up songs in MLB? I nominate Rizzo coming up to Bad Blood by TSwift.
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| 8:26 |
: Lindor – Space Jam theme song
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| 8:26 |
: Why is Reyes allowed to have that hair in a playoff game?
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| 8:26 |
: More apt question; why is Reyes allowed to play in the postseason? Suspended for PEDs = no playoffs. Suspended for domestic violence = ehh be an October here.
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| 8:27 |
: Ya, but I mean…You just switch it for one night. Disconnect the xbox and plug it into the big TV for the night
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| 8:27 |
: i have one arm
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| 8:27 |
: Syndergaard is so good that I was legitimately impressed by how well Pence hit that ball
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| 8:27 |
: That was like 99 on the inner-black
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| 8:28 |
: Beltre can hit home runs on one knee. Surely you can connect an xbox with one arm.
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| 8:28 |
: I continue to not know how anyone hits Thor.
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| 8:29 |
: It was mostly a cop-out answer because I hadn’t even thought of that idea.
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| 8:29 |
: At the same time though, Syndergaard does provide all the velocity for that ball to go far!
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| 8:29 |
: pretty sure this has been proven to not be a thing
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| 8:29 |
: Correct.
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| 8:29 |
: A pitcher’s velo provides something like 15% of the variance in batted ball distance.
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| 8:29 |
: Do you literally have only one arm now? Or did you just have one of your arms immobilized and rendered temporarily less-than-fully-usable?
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| 8:30 |
: the latter
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| 8:30 |
: 92 slider down and in.
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| 8:30 |
: And he made contact!
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| 8:30 |
: Baseball players are amazing.
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| 8:30 |
: Thor is more amazing.
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| 8:31 |
: selling him short on that repertoire box by maxing his velo out at 100
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| 8:31 |
: Relevant Ted Williams Quote; “I never want to face him again.”
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| 8:31 |
: just go for deep counts giants! get the ‘pen in there
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| 8:31 |
: Mets pen is not bad.
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| 8:32 |
: HUNTER PENCE!
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| 8:32 |
: Thor is good.
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| 8:32 |
: holy shit
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| 8:32 |
: what a guy
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| 8:32 |
: whenever Syndergaard isnt pitching, the camera should just be on Hunter Oence
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| 8:32 |
: and I mean like always. in the offseason and stuff too
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| 8:33 |
: Did you know Pence partially re-signed in SF because he liked riding his scooter to the park?
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| 8:33 |
: Yeah I think I just learned that a couple weeks ago. Amazing
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| 8:33 |
: Terry Francona lives a couple buildings down from me and rides his scooter to the park too
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| 8:33 |
: Seeing him on it in the street is hysterical
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| 8:33 |
: he can’t take his scooter to another city?
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| 8:33 |
: Most cities aren’t as scooter friendly.
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| 8:34 |
:
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| 8:34 |
: Hunter Pence looks like he’s on LSD
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| 8:34 |
: Hunter Pence scares me.
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| 8:34 |
: Hunter Pence looks like he’s in the dugout telling everyone about the government nanobots in their brains.
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| 8:34 |
: Is Hunter Pence Enzo Amore?
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| 8:34 |
: Pretty sure fangraphs called Addison Reed a right handed Andrew Miller within the last two months
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| 8:34 |
: that was me!
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| 8:34 |
: That Francona picture looks like the lamest Jason Bourne sequel
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| 8:36 |
: Is Carson here? I’ve used wildflower seeds to create a meadow garden and replace grass. I’d like to discuss this and Hunter Pence in no order
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| 8:36 |
: We put him back to pasture.
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| 8:36 |
: People who watch the Mets: How has Granderson looked in CF?
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| 8:36 |
: Can someone verify if my comments are going thru, I posted a couple but dont see any, thanks.
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| 8:36 |
: yes they’re here. we have to push them through, and there’s a ton of them
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| 8:37 |
: Hmm, just noticed my laptop battery is already down to 59%. This should be a fun race to the end of the game.
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| 8:37 |
: you didn’t bring a charger?
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| 8:37 |
: To a bar?
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| 8:37 |
: Does MadBum have a popup tendency in general? Seems like he’s gotten nearly everybody on them.
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| 8:37 |
: Are bars known for their outlet options?
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| 8:38 |
: almost exactly league average
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| 8:38 |
: might be able to find one!
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| 8:38 |
: The Mets really should work the counts though…
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| 8:38 |
: My battery disagrees.
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| 8:39 |
: gameday thingy is marking all the bumgarner outs as ‘popouts’. Is that accurate? Have the mets done nothing but hit short harmless flies?
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| 8:39 |
: At this pace…how long can each SP go…13 innings?
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| 8:39 |
: actually pretty much yeah
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| 8:39 |
: (to brendan)
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| 8:39 |
: It will be interesting to see what it takes for Bochy to go to the pen.
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| 8:39 |
: Not bringing a charger is like not using your best reliever, man.
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| 8:39 |
: Or if he just goes with Cueto after Bumgarner and says screw my relievers.
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| 8:39 |
: *fire emojis*
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| 8:39 |
: You went to a bar to watch the game, you’re not going to drink, and you plan to be there 3 hours?
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| 8:39 |
: THE ROAST OF DAVE CAMERON
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| 8:39 |
: LET’S GOOOO
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| 8:40 |
: Other option was to fight off a grumpy toddler and an energetic dog.
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| 8:40 |
: The key to successful live blogging? Be single and petless.
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| 8:40 |
: Which do you prefer:
1. grumpy toddler and energetic dog 2. energetic toddler and grumpy dog |
| 8:41 |
: I think #2.
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| 8:41 |
: Energetic dog must be exercised outside, and it’s cold.
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| 8:41 |
: Man Syndergaard is just painting the corners on the bottom of the zone
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| 8:41 |
: Odds that one of the pitcher’s gets a hit before one of the hitters?
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| 8:41 |
: I don’t know how anyone gets a hit tonight.
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| 8:41 |
: Seems like everything’s been low from Syndergaard and high from Bumgarner
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| 8:41 |
: Jeeeeeeesus
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| 8:41 |
: Just saw the first K
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| 8:42 |
: that swing
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| 8:42 |
: Sf contact tendencies not exactly coming through atm
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| 8:42 |
: Maybe time to refresh your stream, August.
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| 8:42 |
: first K of the inning I mean!
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| 8:42 |
: Gillaspie is up? With one out in the third? Is that bad?
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| 8:43 |
: Actually, Britton is pitching, bottom 9.
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| 8:43 |
: This is just silly.
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| 8:43 |
: Thor is a monster.
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| 8:43 |
: I know this is redundant, but Thor is a god.
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| 8:43 |
: How is Thor even fair I dont know
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| 8:43 |
: This is fun.
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| 8:44 |
: You have one at-bat: rather face Thor, or Chapman?
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| 8:44 |
: I’m good, I’ll pass.
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| 8:44 |
: That might be the hardest hit ball all night
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| 8:44 |
: Bumgarner best hit ball of the nighit. Ha
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| 8:45 |
: man I wanted a pticher dinger
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| 8:45 |
: Tom Cruise looks weird now.
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| 8:46 |
: Is this going to be a 90 minute game?
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| 8:46 |
: i’m all for it
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| 8:46 |
: except now i’ve jinxed it
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| 8:46 |
: damnit
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| 8:46 |
: We pay hourly now, August.
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| 8:46 |
: FYI.
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| 8:46 |
: i’m tired enough to take the hit
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| 8:47 |
: That laying down in bed while your mom takes care of you really take it out of you these last few weeks?
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| 8:47 |
: If Bumgarner decided to become a full time position player for some reason this offseason, how many dingers would he hit over the course of the season?
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| 8:47 |
: THE ROAST OF AUGUST FAGERSTROM
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| 8:47 |
: he still strikes out in like 40% of his at-bats. he’d get adjusted to pretty quick
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| 8:47 |
: A hit!
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| 8:47 |
: Ha! I was up till ~5AM writing that Pillar post last night and had a post-op appointment at 9AM this morning
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| 8:48 |
: running on fumes
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| 8:48 |
: A hit!
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| 8:48 |
: sick stat there
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| 8:48 |
: 3-for-4
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| 8:48 |
: Is “fumes” your little secret word of “awesome painkillers”?
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| 8:48 |
: painkillers make me sick. ditched them after day 3 or 4
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| 8:48 |
: James Loney starting against a lefty in an elimination game. 2016.
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| 8:49 |
: A hit erased!
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| 8:49 |
: Loney: because scoring is overrated
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| 8:49 |
: Pitches with a runner on base: 1
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| 8:50 |
: I feel like this Mets team is just a compilation of players I don’t know
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| 8:50 |
: I find it funny how the Mets are the ones making all the contact and the Giants are making all the strikeouts
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| 8:50 |
: Thor looks majestic even when he swings and misses.
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| 8:50 |
: August, I’m getting labrum surgery on Monday. 75% of my left labrum is torn or born without it. Any post op suggestions?
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| 8:50 |
: 7 pitches each inning
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| 8:50 |
: Have someone close by to do everything for you
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| 8:51 |
: Bumgarner on course to throw a complete game in 63 pitches.
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| 8:51 |
: 3 innings complete in like 10 minutes
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| 8:52 |
: 43, but still, this is moving.
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| 8:52 |
: I think the least pitches in a CG this year was 89
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| 8:52 |
: double playoff Maddux watch
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| 8:52 |
: Maybe we get an old school 10+ shutout innings start here? that would be sweet
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| 8:52 |
: August, I’m just happy that I’m right handed. It’ll keep me from playing hockey goalie for 4-6 months. I also heard to sleep in a good recliner.
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| 8:53 |
: yes! this should’ve been my advice
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| 8:53 |
: Wonder how many more pitches Bumgarner would be allowed to throw than Thor tonight? I’d bet it’s at least 30.
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| 8:53 |
: recliner is somehow way more comfortable than bed
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| 8:53 |
: Considering the Giants bullpen I wouldn’t take BumBum out before the 15th
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| 8:53 |
: #BumBum
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| 8:54 |
: What would you guess the pitch limits are? 120 for syndergaard and 150 for madbum?
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| 8:54 |
: 110/140
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| 8:54 |
: Or maybe 115/145.
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| 8:54 |
: Why 30 pitches higher for BumBum?
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| 8:54 |
: Thor has the bone spur, is younger, doesn’t have Bumgarner’s track record of health.
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| 8:55 |
: Taking the over on 6 combined hits allowed for these guys seems like a bad bet at this point…
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| 8:55 |
: and giants bullpen sucks
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| 8:55 |
: I know you should evaluate pitchers on batters faced and times through the order and not pitch counts. But when a guy is cruising and guys are swinging at the first pitch can you stretch it? It may take you 5 at bats before you see everything a pitchers got
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| 8:56 |
: I think the correct answer is no, it shouldnt change things, but it’s also not the human answer
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| 8:56 |
: Thor’a motion looks very simple and non dangerous for lack of a better word does that bide well for his arm? His motion seems easy
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| 8:56 |
: I don’t think there’s any evidence that we can look at a guy’s delivery and determine he’ll be fine or not.
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| 8:57 |
: I also kind of disagree
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| 8:57 |
: It seems like he uses so little of his body
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| 8:57 |
: bravo span working that count
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| 8:57 |
: Which is a thing scouts don’t like, right? Because it puts more stress on the arm? I don’t know. I’m out of my element. I don’t even know if he uses less body than the average pitcher
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| 8:57 |
: Scouts tend to just not like small/skinny guys. Beyond that, I don’t know that there’s much consensus.
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| 8:58 |
: Also any delivery that results in 102MPH is dangerous. Velocity is a killer
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| 8:58 |
: “Seriously, don’t look at motions to project arm issues down the road.” — Chris Sale
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| 8:58 |
: “sure thing” — Stephen Strasburg
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| 8:58 |
: sorry
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| 8:59 |
: Did he get tagged in the face?
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| 8:59 |
: Syndergaard really acting like he can hold baserunners
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| 8:59 |
: THOSE GIANTS STOLEN BASES WE WERE WAITING FOR
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| 8:59 |
: ha! and then he immedaitely gets thrown out
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| 8:59 |
: The closeline tag, very effective.
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| 8:59 |
: shows what I know
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| 8:59 |
: He might be safe!
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| 8:59 |
: Pretty clearly safe.
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| 9:00 |
: That might be one of those cases where he very briefly came off the bag between the lead foot and the bag leg.
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| 9:00 |
: Think the arm was on.
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| 9:01 |
: Sliding off the bag is the worst side effect of replay
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| 9:01 |
: Agreed.
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| 9:01 |
: Uh, ok.
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| 9:01 |
: Giants have to be fuming.
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| 9:01 |
: Wow.
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| 9:01 |
: it’s funny because every time I see a play like this now I think to myself “would’ve been out with Baez tagging”
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| 9:01 |
: oh ok he’s out anyway
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| 9:01 |
: Ohhh, August is never right.
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| 9:01 |
: I think it’s because his foot comes off
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| 9:02 |
: So silly.
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| 9:02 |
: Runners beats throw, runner safe.
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| 9:02 |
: If you are like a foot off the bag, okay, you’re out.
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| 9:02 |
: Does anyone else hate it when guys get called out for coming off the bag for a fraction of a second — something impossible to see in real time?
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| 9:02 |
: yes so much
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| 9:02 |
: But momentarily lose contact because of physics? Still safe.
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| 9:02 |
: does not seem to be in the spirit of replay at all
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| 9:02 |
: but it’s there, and they cant ignore it
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| 9:02 |
: “As a compromise between people who want replay and those who don’t, we’ll add replay but make the entire system make no sense.” – MLB
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| 9:03 |
: Rule 162.2 – “If you’re a foot off the bag, okay, you’re out” haha. Not disparaging you, just, damn it must be hard to write a rulebook, no?
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| 9:03 |
: Yes, defining this stuff is tough. But this current definition is dumb.
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| 9:04 |
:
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| 9:04 |
: Just change the oversliding rule to be that you’re considered on the bag once you touch it until your whole body goes past it on the other side
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| 9:04 |
: Yeah, something like a vertical extension of the base would be my suggestion. If you’re over the base, but not touching it, still safe.
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| 9:05 |
: you should be able to shoot webbing from your cleats (a la spiderman but the feet) so that call doesn’t happen
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| 9:05 |
: strong agree here
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| 9:05 |
: Thor getting help.
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| 9:06 |
: A big zone and this stuff is unfair.
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| 9:06 |
: Hunter pence looks like he eats raw eggs for breakfast
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| 9:06 |
: That K brought to you by the Umpire’s Union
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| 9:07 |
: He got help on that, but ball 2 was a strike
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| 9:08 |
: So the reasoning is that they didn’t have enough evidence to overturn it. If it was called safe, would they have enough evidence to overturn it?
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| 9:08 |
: Yeah, default to whatever is on the field call.
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| 9:08 |
: Hunter Pence looks like he eats recently hatched eggs for breakfast
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| 9:08 |
: Laptop battery update: 45%. Don’t think I’m going to make it.
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| 9:08 |
: Nachos update: still awful
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| 9:09 |
: Let’s see when Dave’s laptop battery life meets Bumgarner’s pitch count
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| 9:10 |
: My name is Hunter Pence. I am a certified G and a bonafide stud and you…can’t…teach…that
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| 9:10 |
: didn’t realize Brian Wilson got into wrestling
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| 9:11 |
: Leave it to Jose Reyes to be the first Met to work the count
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| 9:12 |
: Working the count = fouling off pitches outside of the zone
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| 9:12 |
: Jose Reyes has seen like 25% of the total pitches
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| 9:13 |
: Well that was a terrible pitch.
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| 9:13 |
: That was kind of a weird segment, talking about how he’s trying to come in but missing over the plate while showing pitches spotted right at the upper edge of the zone
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| 9:13 |
: Maybe the approach is up, not in?
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| 9:14 |
: It’s kind of the Giants thing, after all.
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| 9:14 |
: Is it possible MadBum’s post-season greatness is a skill?
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| 9:14 |
: His skill is just being great always, and constantly having the opportunity to pitch in the postseason
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| 9:15 |
: Jetering
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| 9:15 |
: Asdrubal got like four meatballs in that at-bat.
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| 9:15 |
: Finally got one.
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| 9:16 |
: Cabrera’s spray chart would show he should be shifted with 7 guys down the left field line in his next PA
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| 9:16 |
: Conor Gillaspie and Jose Reyes being the starting third basemen for the Giants and Mets, respectively, in a Wild Card game in the year 2016 is too good
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| 9:17 |
: Pretty sure the high fastball thing is the plan to Yo.
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| 9:17 |
: I like that HR graphic
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| 9:17 |
: Yeah, the approach against Yo couldn’t be more obvious
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| 9:18 |
: This is just one pitch over and over.
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| 9:18 |
: i love this
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| 9:18 |
: And that’s different.
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| 9:19 |
: I can’t believe he got a piece of that
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| 9:19 |
: I don’t think Bumgarner threw a pitch in the zone that whole at-bat.
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| 9:20 |
: swing at ALL the things!
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| 9:20 |
: Bumgarner vs. Cespedes currently in the lead for “thing i want to write about tomorrow”
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| 9:20 |
: maybe now usurped by Yo’s hair
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| 9:20 |
: That breaking ball was great.
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| 9:21 |
: Say you had an extreme groundball pitcher on the mound and a batter that very rarely hit the ball to RF should a team play with 5 infielders and shift your 2 OFs accordingly?
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| 9:21 |
: oh you mean howie kendrick
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| 9:21 |
| 9:21 |
: Being a lefty here must suck
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| 9:22 |
: Why does it seem like there’s so many underwhelming rosters in the postseason this year?
|
| 9:22 |
: injuries
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| 9:22 |
: cameron battery update vs mad bum pitch count?
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| 9:22 |
: He passed me a minute or two ago.
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| 9:23 |
: When they had the HR v LHP graphic overlaid, you could see Yoenis’ pre-AB swings go directly through the heart of the plot. Anything to that?
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| 9:23 |
: The 4th inning is as long as the first 3 innings
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| 9:23 |
: Yeah, Pedro talked about this on MLB Network last year. Been meaning to write a post about that actually
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| 9:23 |
: He said he’d look at hitter’s pre-AB swings and read their planes
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| 9:23 |
: That they’d alwas swing where they wanted the ball
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| 9:23 |
: Got away with another middle-middle fastball.
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| 9:24 |
: Bumgarner’s command that inning was awful.
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| 9:25 |
: Who’s going to take over if Dave’s laptop doesn’t make it? Surely you don’t trust the one armed man.
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| 9:25 |
:
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| 9:25 |
: thats why you always bring a charger
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| 9:25 |
: A++++++++ comment
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| 9:26 |
: so this is the thing about command I find interesting: Thor’s painted the black on lots of pitches, BumBum missed a lot of spots that inning. But Thor’s got two walks, MadBum none. I know rediculously SSS, but have we moved away from bb% as a proxy for command?
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| 9:26 |
: I’m not sure many people view BB% as a proxy for command
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| 9:26 |
: BB% is a proxy for *control* which is an annoying stipulation but a necesssary one
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| 9:26 |
: Yeah. There are definitely guys with control but not command; low walk dudes who just center everything and get lit up. Carlos Silva was always my go to example.
|
| 9:26 |
: also pretty sure stipulation is not the word I was looking for there but I’m tired so whatever
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| 9:27 |
: August, can you please explain the difference between command and control?
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| 9:27 |
: control = putting ball over plate
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| 9:27 |
: command = putting ball where you want, when you want
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| 9:27 |
: AKA being able to throw fastball to all four quadrants of the zone, being able to frontdoor/backdoor slider, etc.
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| 9:28 |
: I hate the behind the plate camera angle
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| 9:28 |
: It is so useless.
|
| 9:28 |
: it’s so bad
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| 9:28 |
: except for the occasional gif where you see how much a pitch moves
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| 9:28 |
: but for in-game viewing, it’s terrible
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| 9:28 |
: You guys should have a podcast you name Command & Control. Sounds badass.
|
| 9:28 |
: Sounds like a dice game.
|
| 9:28 |
: I bet Szymborski plays it.
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| 9:29 |
: Would a pitcher with the ability to throw 95 MPH within an inch’s accuracy be able to survive if it was his only pitch?
|
| 9:29 |
: You mean Mariano Rivera?
|
| 9:29 |
: I was gonna say it sounds like something out of the BDSM community
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| 9:29 |
: But that’s a little dark for a baseball chat.
|
| 9:29 |
: So I didn’t say it.
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| 9:29 |
: August deserves credit for not bringing that up.
|
| 9:29 |
: Isn’t that what Bartolo Colon does? Only with an 88 mph fastball?
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| 9:30 |
: 93 mph sliders are so nasty you can hang them and still get whiffs.
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| 9:30 |
: Chat’s not awkward now thanks August.
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| 9:30 |
: np
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| 9:30 |
: That was 80 stuff, 20 location.
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| 9:30 |
: 93 slider!
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| 9:30 |
: what the hell!
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| 9:31 |
: Dave mentions dice games. August mentions fetishes. I think that’s basically this chat in a nutshell.
|
| 9:31 |
: Who are 80 command pitchers in MLB today
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| 9:31 |
: Kershaw
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| 9:31 |
: Miller
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| 9:31 |
: fin?
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| 9:31 |
: Colon.
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| 9:31 |
: Colon, yeah
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| 9:31 |
: Nasty 89 change bottom of the zone
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| 9:32 |
: ooooooh my god that 88 change
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| 9:32 |
: Hendricks an 80 command guy???
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| 9:32 |
: Feels early to say that yet.
|
| 9:32 |
: But maybe.
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| 9:32 |
: Think that’s getting liberal with 80s
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| 9:32 |
: That change was as fast as Tillmans fastball from last night
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| 9:33 |
: It’s funny, whenever you asks the 80 question, you answer the top two or three logical guys, and then keep trying to extend the list further and further
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| 9:33 |
: goodness this is so much better than Tillman and Ubaldo
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| 9:33 |
: Thus discrediting the entire idea of an 80, which is like 3+ standard deviation guys, meaning by definition there should only be a couple
|
| 9:33 |
: Peak Cliff Lee was an 85
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| 9:34 |
: Watching him, then watching Felix the next day, made me actually dislike watching Felix, which felt impossible.
|
| 9:34 |
: I miss peak Cliff Lee so much
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| 9:34 |
: The best.
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| 9:34 |
: my all-time favorite Jeff tweet
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| 9:35 |
: Nice hustle, Pagan.
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| 9:35 |
: Based on his reaction I thought the ball was foul by 50 feet.
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| 9:36 |
: Pagan’s playing with a bad hammy
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| 9:36 |
: Can you please ms paint Pagan’s route?
|
| 9:36 |
: it’d just be a dot
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| 9:36 |
: Okay, legitimate excuse.
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| 9:36 |
: Does WPA calculate crappy, but not error-worthy, defense like Pagan there? Is there a stat that does?
|
| 9:36 |
: UZR and DRS.
|
| 9:36 |
: splitting BA w/ RISP into two half-season samples is good
|
| 9:37 |
: But people hate them…
|
| 9:37 |
: I’d love just once to stand in the lefty box and watch a BumBum breaker
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| 9:37 |
: looove #BumBum being a thing
|
| 9:37 |
: Most predictable K ever.
|
| 9:37 |
: That was an awful at bat
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| 9:38 |
: OH MY GOD I FOUND IT ON THE WAYBACK MACHINE
https://web.archive.org/web/20150415035347/http://cliftonphiferlee.com/ |
| 9:38 |
: what the hell am i looking at
|
| 9:38 |
: is this a YTMND page
|
| 9:38 |
: Jon Jay Bruce Chen
|
| 9:38 |
: George Harrison Ford Explorer
|
| 9:39 |
: Hey, a high fastball.
|
| 9:40 |
: Hey, anotha one
|
| 9:40 |
: What was Rivera doing?
|
| 9:41 |
: I’m just going to stand here in the baseline and see if you field that.
|
| 9:41 |
: TOOTBLAN
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| 9:41 |
: thats not what you want
|
| 9:41 |
: Dang he made it to second, pretty awesome
|
| 9:41 |
: Maybe the tootiest of blans
|
| 9:41 |
: One might say no harm done and tired out the fielders?
|
| 9:41 |
: Results based analysis!
|
| 9:41 |
: They’re walking Loney????
|
| 9:42 |
: What am I missing?
|
| 9:42 |
: I get that the pitcher is next, but walking Loney still feels like a waste of an easy out
|
| 9:42 |
: Yeah. Take the out, get Thor out next inning too.
|
| 9:42 |
: Oh God please a pitcher hit, murder even year bullshit with a rusty hammer
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| 9:42 |
: Thor can probably hit better than Loney.
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| 9:42 |
: Really? I’d think even with Thor being a good-hitting-pitcher that the difference would be large enough to be worth it
|
| 9:43 |
: Loney’s better, but not enough to give up the out.
|
| 9:43 |
: great note by Buster
|
| 9:43 |
: Pitcher on deck. Think a study on FG indicated pitcher next was only time IBB made sense.
|
| 9:43 |
: does he have like a buzzer or something where when he has a great fun fact he can just chime in?
|
| 9:43 |
: That study wasn’t when ace lefty was facing replacement level lefty hitter.
|
| 9:44 |
: This bar has just gone pro-Giants with some newcomers.
|
| 9:44 |
: What about ace left facing lefty-hitting pitcher with a lower wRC+ than the replacement level lefty hitter?
|
| 9:44 |
: wellllp
|
| 9:45 |
: Obviously you’d rather face Thor than Loney if all things are equal. But if you don’t IBB, you get to face both.
|
| 9:45 |
: It’s not one or the other. It’s two outs or one.
|
| 9:45 |
: James Loney vs. LHP, 2016: .218 OBP
Madison Bumgarner vs. LHB, 2016: .218 OBP |
| 9:45 |
: why do all these numbers keep coming up the same
|
| 9:46 |
: Single season platoon splits aren’t what you want to use, but yeah, Loney against a great LHP is a terrible matchup.
|
| 9:46 |
: Everyone should get Sling.
|
| 9:46 |
: I think August is getting tired of his.
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| 9:46 |
: as someone with his arm in a sling for the last two weeks and also the next four, I strongly disagree
|
| 9:46 |
: /zing
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| 9:46 |
: Oh man
|
| 9:46 |
: /jinxed zing
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| 9:46 |
: Trivia time(is this allowed?): Why are the Mets colors blue and orange?
|
| 9:47 |
: got me
|
| 9:47 |
: Because seven ate nine?
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| 9:47 |
: Dodger blue, giant orange
|
| 9:47 |
: jesus everybody in the queue knew that
|
| 9:47 |
: Somebody decided they liked the colors
|
| 9:47 |
: woulda been my answer
|
| 9:48 |
: A baseball team with Purple colors is overdue, right? Esp. since D-Backs abandoned it?
|
| 9:48 |
: i miss the rockies too
|
| 9:49 |
: what about green?
|
| 9:49 |
: I’m suprised that there is only on team with Green colors
|
| 9:49 |
: wait, yeah
|
| 9:49 |
: why isn’t there more green?
|
| 9:49 |
: that breake was insane
|
| 9:50 |
: I love when syndegaard reminds everyone he throws a curveball too
|
| 9:50 |
: so easy to forget
|
| 9:50 |
: That’s some nasty break at 91
|
| 9:50 |
: WOW
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| 9:50 |
: Gorgeous
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| 9:50 |
: I know Bum is just guessing up there, but Thor looks unfair right now.
|
| 9:50 |
: then a 91 slider, great
|
| 9:50 |
: BumBum getting angry. It begins.
|
| 9:51 |
: I really don’t enjoy watching Madison Bumgarner in baseball
|
| 9:51 |
: play baseball*
|
| 9:51 |
: Like maybe less so than any other player in the game
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| 9:51 |
: Bumgarner: “DON’T CALL THAT. DON’T CALL THAT.”
|
| 9:51 |
: People who are never happy aren’t fun to be around or even watch on TV, it turns out
|
| 9:52 |
: Dave’s battery died
|
| 9:52 |
: Not yet, just letting August rant against Bumgarner.
|
| 9:53 |
: A hit!
|
| 9:53 |
: Way to ruin the mood, Span.
|
| 9:53 |
: Dave do you have a plan to rejoin the chat once you get a charger or will you be leaving us for the night?
|
| 9:53 |
: I’ll just go home and get attacked by the dog.
|
| 9:53 |
: Then try to chat with her barking in my face.
|
| 9:53 |
: Third time through… how long do you guys stick with Thor here?
|
| 9:54 |
: Probably have Reed warming next inning, but try to get through 7.
|
| 9:54 |
: Safe this time.
|
| 9:54 |
: that was remarkably close for such a huge jump
|
| 9:54 |
: Span had a running lead…
|
| 9:54 |
: Crazy how close that was
|
| 9:55 |
: That was closer than last time.
|
| 9:56 |
: Has anyone ever recorded a routine play at a sporting event and actually rewatched it?
|
| 9:56 |
: I ask myself this at concerts all the time
|
| 9:56 |
: *Nobody* rewatches those videos
|
| 9:56 |
: they are completely pointless and so damn frustrating
|
| 9:56 |
: not worth the high odds of a successful steal of third, right?
|
| 9:56 |
: Right.
|
| 9:56 |
: Ball not carrying tonight.
|
| 9:56 |
: nice catch
|
| 9:56 |
: Wow great play
|
| 9:57 |
: WHOA
|
| 9:57 |
: What a catch.
|
| 9:57 |
: Beautiful. Hope he’s Ok
|
| 9:57 |
: Granderson!
|
| 9:57 |
: welp
|
| 9:57 |
: Its made infinitely more remarkable that Granderson was the one who made it
|
| 9:57 |
: about Granderson’s ability in center…
|
| 9:59 |
: Wow. Giants fan, but wow. What a catch. I was convinced that was gone.
|
| 10:00 |
: In July, it probably is.
|
| 10:00 |
: Why is it hard for people to believe in volatility on defense? Just cause Granderson sucks in center doesn’t mean he can’t make a great play once in a while, in the same way that backup catchers have hit home runs in the major leagues while being awful hitters
|
| 10:00 |
: I never understand this
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| 10:01 |
: Hate to be *that guy* and it’s not like I played at any level beyond HS, but whenever I hear that argument I assume that person never played baseball. My defense absolutely slumped
|
| 10:01 |
: and “got hot”
|
| 10:01 |
: Is anyone a bigger whiner than Bumgarner?
|
| 10:01 |
: Paul O’Neill
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| 10:01 |
: sweet replay
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| 10:02 |
: Bumgarner ruins everything
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| 10:02 |
: Don’t understand why people hate passion he just wants to win what’s wrong with that?
|
| 10:02 |
: You can be passionate without being a dick.
|
| 10:02 |
: guys in the bullpen engaging with and cheering on the fans behind them! I love it
|
| 10:02 |
: View 2 new Tweets
Daren Willman ?@darenw 1m1 minute ago The batted ball Brandon Belt hit was 105.9 MPH at a 25 degree launch angle… Similar batted balls are a HR 91% of the time. |
| 10:03 |
: Yeah. Seems like ball really not going anywhere.
|
| 10:03 |
: BumBum thinks he can have passion, but no one else can.
|
| 10:03 |
: Bumgarner should aspire to be more like Lackey: a dick, but an amusing dick.
|
| 10:03 |
: Shouting randomly at people and holding people to rules you never told them about is being a dick.
|
| 10:03 |
: These three tweets perfectly encapsulate my feelings toward Bumgarner
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| 10:03 |
: Also, those are totally not tweets.
|
| 10:03 |
: Jesus.
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| 10:04 |
:
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| 10:04 |
: looove this gif
|
| 10:04 |
: what’s the grade on that Asdrubal walk bat flip?
|
| 10:04 |
: strong 70
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| 10:04 |
: 70+
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| 10:05 |
: High fastball to Yo!
|
| 10:05 |
: How surprising.
|
| 10:05 |
: Another one.
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| 10:05 |
: Feels like Yo should just not swing this whole AB.
|
| 10:05 |
: his bat flip on his walk-off home run a couple weeks ago was, I know you said not to give out too many 80-grades but it felt 80-grade
|
| 10:05 |
: Odds he gets a strike are very low.
|
| 10:05 |
: was absolutely 80
|
| 10:06 |
: So he takes a strike…
|
| 10:06 |
: Nice swing.
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| 10:06 |
: I can’t imagine how a player could mess up a bat flip. As long as its flipped it seems hard for it to be bad
|
| 10:06 |
: I can’t bat flip
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| 10:06 |
: That was the “ah man I shouldn’t be doing this” swing
|
| 10:07 |
: I tried in softball all year whenever I got a hold of one and I could never fire off a good one
|
| 10:07 |
: Well that’s a fun strike for Bumgarner.
|
| 10:07 |
: If he gets that call regularly, the Mets are hosed.
|
| 10:07 |
: wow
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| 10:07 |
: no kidding
|
| 10:08 |
: Another middle-middle one.
|
| 10:08 |
: So many mistakes gotten away with.
|
| 10:09 |
: New race; does the bartender bring me my check before my battery (18%) dies?
|
| 10:09 |
: Bumgarner near the top of spin rates for 4-seam?
|
| 10:09 |
: nope
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| 10:09 |
: just above average
|
| 10:09 |
: That’s quite the link.
|
| 10:09 |
: sure is
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| 10:09 |
: have a longer url i dare you
|
| 10:09 |
: Who gets away with most middle middle in baseball?
|
| 10:09 |
: Kershaw
|
| 10:09 |
: Sam Miller wrote an article or five about this earlier this year
|
| 10:10 |
: I wish someone would do a video HOW TO for Baseball Savant
|
| 10:10 |
: Good idea for an offseason post.
|
| 10:10 |
: wow august, you are resourceful and fast.
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| 10:10 |
: That’s what August’s BDSM people say.
|
| 10:10 |
: (/zing?)
|
| 10:10 |
: thanks, definitely not me on another account
|
| 10:10 |
: LOG OFF DAVE
|
| 10:10 |
: LOG OF
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| 10:10 |
: YOUR BATTERY IS DEAD
|
| 10:10 |
: GO HOME
|
| 10:10 |
: I’LL TAKE IT FROM HERE
|
| 10:10 |
: I think my employee just fired me.
|
| 10:11 |
: WELCOME BACK TO THE ROAST OF AUGUST FAGERSTROM
|
| 10:11 |
: That’s more creepy than zingy
|
| 10:11 |
: Dave is drunk, go home?
|
| 10:11 |
: Dave Cameron already resigned once this year!
|
| 10:11 |
: August’s favorite stat is WHIP?
|
| 10:11 |
: holy shit
|
| 10:11 |
: lol at that Posey swing
|
| 10:12 |
: I like that these chats show up in google search results. Good luck future August girlfriends.
|
| 10:12 |
: Well that was an awful call
|
| 10:12 |
: yeah, this is definitely what would ruin it for me
|
| 10:12 |
: feel like ump is struggling a bit
|
| 10:12 |
: Wow, that was a Maddux corner.
|
| 10:13 |
: Keywords include: BDSM and Bumbum. Godspeed August.
|
| 10:13 |
: Remember earlier tonight when someone asked what the odds of the starters giving up 6 or less hits combined were?
|
| 10:13 |
: Never bet on baseball.
|
| 10:13 |
: — Not Pete Rose
|
| 10:14 |
: 89 change down and away in the 7th.
|
| 10:14 |
: Lol.
|
| 10:14 |
: Dave, you guessed Syndergaard’s pitch limit would be 110-115. Assuming that’s what you think the Mets will do, would you do it differently?
|
| 10:14 |
: I’d probably be going with Reed next inning.
|
| 10:15 |
: He doesnt seem to be getting some of the same calls Bumgarner gets
|
| 10:15 |
: He got plenty of calls earlier.
|
| 10:15 |
: The zone has been inconsistently bad, but not in either direction.
|
| 10:16 |
: Blevins!!
|
| 10:16 |
: Don’t you want Reed at least throwing right now anyways?
|
| 10:16 |
: Yeah, at this point, I don’t know why you don’t just get two guys warm.
|
| 10:16 |
: You’re going to use them.
|
| 10:17 |
: Syndegaard’a last batter no matter what?
|
| 10:17 |
: I think so.
|
| 10:17 |
: wow this game has slowed to a crawl
|
| 10:18 |
: The best way to guarantee a slow second half of a game is to mention the quick pace of the first half of the game
|
| 10:18 |
: The only superstition I believe in
|
| 10:18 |
: Too much time spent in press boxes
|
| 10:18 |
: “I like this.” – Baseball Commetator
|
| 10:18 |
: No, the best way to slow the second half of a game is to put Jonathan Papelbon in.
|
| 10:18 |
: I would like to acquaint you with Joaquin Benoit.
|
| 10:19 |
: I’m about to start booing Syndegaard
|
| 10:19 |
: Pedro Baez is the worst.
|
| 10:19 |
: Pedro Baez says hello
|
| 10:19 |
: Pedro Baez
|
| 10:20 |
: did his helmet just fall off
|
| 10:20 |
: what was that play
|
| 10:20 |
: Loney seemed like he could have gotten that?
|
| 10:20 |
: Obviously not, or he would have, but it looked close-ish.
|
| 10:20 |
: that was all so weird
|
| 10:20 |
: Lemme just lightly toss that to 1st
|
| 10:20 |
: very casual d from loney to my eyes
|
| 10:20 |
: Loney at lease wave your glove at it man
|
| 10:21 |
: things about that play, ranked:
1. Helmet falling off on swing |
| 10:21 |
: Heart stops
|
| 10:21 |
: PHEW!
|
| 10:21 |
: JESUS you guys were not kidding about Pedro Baez
|
| 10:22 |
: That was about as BABIPy as it gets
|
| 10:22 |
: fuck that
|
| 10:22 |
: Back to back extra inning wild card games anyone?
|
| 10:22 |
: Loney is in there for his bat
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| 10:22 |
: Whenever a ball goes off the pitcher’s glove in a playoff game I get heart palpitations.
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| 10:22 |
: just like they all say
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| 10:22 |
: The Dodgers told Pedro Baez he needed to slow the game down. Several weeks later they discovered he thought they meant it literally.
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| 10:23 |
: Pedro Baez literally said the reason he is so slow is because dodger coaches told him to “slow the game down”
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| 10:23 |
: this is amazing
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| 10:23 |
: This going to extras? How is the Mets bullpen? I know Giants has been shaky…
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| 10:23 |
: Mets bullpen is underrated.
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| 10:24 |
: 29 out of 30 were relievers… Coincidence?
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| 10:24 |
: No. Pace slows way down in high leverage situations .
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| 10:24 |
: See this with SPs too.
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| 10:25 |
: Is Piazza drinking port? Fancy guy
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| 10:25 |
: Mike Piazza drinks red wine…
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| 10:25 |
: Piazza drinking wine lololololololol
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| 10:25 |
: Is that because runners on base?
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| 10:26 |
: Runners on base means more signs, more lookovers, more everything slow.
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| 10:26 |
: Piazza and Cistuilli got a lot to talk about
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| 10:26 |
: Reed warming.
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| 10:26 |
: Inside Edge ?@InsideEdgeScout 1m1 minute ago
Noah Syndergaard threw 42 pitches 98+ mph tonight. That’s more than the Phillies (41) and Indians (35) threw all year. #Thor |
| 10:27 |
: I don’t think ’04 Bonds could hit one out to CF tonight.
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| 10:28 |
: Another middle-middle fastball, fouled off.
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| 10:28 |
: Bumgarner must be crazy deceptive.
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| 10:28 |
: Because he has missed his spots a lot tonight.
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| 10:29 |
: or the mets suck at hitting dave?
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| 10:29 |
: Also possible.
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| 10:29 |
: Guys I think he might be throwing high
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| 10:29 |
: The Mets have like a 14-man bench and Eric Campbell is the first pinch hitter
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| 10:29 |
: little bit of A little bit of B
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| 10:30 |
: Okay, off to race home. This is all August for the next ~10 minutes.
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| 10:30 |
: Try not to do anything interesting, teams.
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| 10:30 |
: Do we have any way to quantify deception?
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| 10:31 |
: Not really, but I tried: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/another-way-to-quantify-aaron-nolas-deception/
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| 10:31 |
: Taking fastballs for called strikes seems to infer some deception, in my mind
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| 10:31 |
: Could also just be good command on the edges though
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| 10:32 |
: Carrasco, Salazar, Allen, and Miller, and only 35 at 98+?!?!?
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| 10:32 |
: Surprised me too. Apparently everyone just throws 95-97
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| 10:32 |
: Okay August boss is gone lets talk about the Cavs
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| 10:32 |
: *pulls out whip and chains*
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| 10:32 |
: Dave comes home to a 6-5 Mets lead
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| 10:33 |
: Britton is going to pitch while Dave is gone.
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| 10:33 |
: Man that was a sweet inside the park homer!
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| 10:33 |
: Dave’s gone, everyone spam BDSM things! For August!
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| 10:33 |
: Get Cistulli to pinch blog
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| 10:33 |
: aaaand Bumgarner is going to hit for himself
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| 10:33 |
: Prediction: August’s ask man bun becomes unruly and causes him to wilt under the pressure.
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| 10:33 |
: cut it in June!
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| 10:33 |
: when I dislocated my shoulder
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| 10:33 |
: solely because I couldn’t put it up in a bun anymore
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| 10:34 |
: taking fastballs for strikes down the middle?
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| 10:34 |
: Would middle-middle BAA or OPS against be a good sign of deception?
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| 10:34 |
: would prefer the former
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| 10:34 |
: how’d you dislocate your shoulder?
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| 10:35 |
: Softball. Was playing third and jumped for a throw from catcher, dislocated at the apex of my reach
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| 10:35 |
: I’d dislocated it two years prior playing volleyball so it was already weak
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| 10:35 |
: Do you disagree with Bumgarner hitting?
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| 10:35 |
: Probably wanted to bunt anyway
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| 10:36 |
: And Bochy I’m sure is nervous of his pen
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| 10:36 |
: Found something out earlier today though:
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| 10:37 |
: last few years, Bumgarner’s suffered one of the largest 3rd time through the order penalties
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| 10:37 |
: contrary to popular belief
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| 10:37 |
: then again, it was smaller earlier in his career, so who knows, but still interesting given his reputation
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| 10:37 |
: Which FG employee is most capable of being an announcer for one of these games?
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| 10:38 |
: not sure if “capable” is the right word but I’d 100% nominate Carson
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| 10:38 |
: Did you catch it?
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| 10:38 |
: I did, and made the tag
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| 10:38 |
: and then writhed on the ground and swore loudly for a few minutes with small children nearby
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| 10:39 |
: An actual play or throwing around after a strikeout?
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| 10:39 |
: Actual play. Runner thought about going second-to-home on single, our CF threw home, runner turned and came back to third, catcher threw high to me at 3B
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| 10:39 |
: Pretty sure it was the highest Ive ever jumped
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| 10:39 |
: Your softball league is apparently taken way more seriously than most I’ve been in.
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| 10:39 |
: it was the playoffs
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| 10:40 |
: WHAT IS IT WITH THE LONG URLS
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| 10:40 |
: HOLY LINKS LENGTH
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| 10:40 |
: Please, make your links bigger
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| 10:40 |
: The king of all URLs
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| 10:40 |
: HAIL AUGUST: LORD OF MEGALINKS
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| 10:40 |
: Wow way to whip your huge URL. This is a family chat, August.
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| 10:40 |
: didn’t someone dare August to come up with a longer link earlier in this thread? challenge accepted, evidently!
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| 10:40 |
: Like that announcers implicitly talk about framing now
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| 10:41 |
: Yep
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| 10:41 |
: Most everything Jessica Mendoza says is insightful too
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| 10:41 |
: Feels like the zone expanded all night and then suddenly shrank?
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| 10:41 |
: And wow Rivera
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| 10:42 |
: that probably should have been a strike, right?
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| 10:42 |
: seems like a future Jeff Sullivan article
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| 10:43 |
: it was right down the middle (the passed ball, that is)
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| 10:43 |
: Rivera: negative blocker http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1937686
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| 10:43 |
: Dave couldn’t have picked a worse time to leave
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| 10:43 |
: sucker
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| 10:44 |
: boy oh boy
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| 10:44 |
: that was fun
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| 10:45 |
: Here is a thing I’m interested in- what’s the winning percentage of the team that “wins” the highest leverage AB of the game?
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| 10:45 |
: boy do I love this idea
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| 10:46 |
: REED SHOWED EMOTION. GET EM BUMBUM
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| 10:46 |
: Imagine a broadcast booth of Cistulli, Dayn Perry, and Harold Reynolds
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| 10:46 |
: was that a ‘catch the fucking ball’ from Reed?
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| 10:46 |
: Buster said he was talking to Winters
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| 10:46 |
: Reed was jawing at the umpire there..I don’t blame him
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| 10:46 |
: Harold would off himself within ~30 minutes
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| 10:47 |
: calling Campbell dinger
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| 10:48 |
: So what did I miss?
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| 10:48 |
: an even longer link than the first one I posted
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| 10:48 |
: Not possible.
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| 10:48 |
: and Eric Campbell is the Mets’s first pinch hitter off the bench
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| 10:49 |
: oh and the highest leverage situation of the game
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| 10:49 |
: bases loaded
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| 10:49 |
: The Mets PH has a worse batting line than their SP
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| 10:49 |
: oh hey dave august taught us a lot of new BDSM stuff
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| 10:49 |
: and a future Jeff Sullivan article when Rivera let a fastball middle-middle go to the backstop and get called a ball
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| 10:49 |
: and what Bork said
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| 10:49 |
: That sounds fun.
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| 10:49 |
: The called ball, not the BDSM.
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| 10:49 |
: you sure about that
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| 10:49 |
: 80 grade skill: bumgarner snot rocket blowing
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| 10:50 |
: Campbell followed by Ty Kelly. Lol.
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| 10:50 |
: @august: pretty sure that Campbell has a .400+ OBP as a PH
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| 10:50 |
: Injuries, man.
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| 10:50 |
: is this in 5 at bats
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| 10:50 |
: that was not a good pitch
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| 10:50 |
: If the Mets had a RH who could hit he would have been in the lineup.
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| 10:50 |
: Who the duck is Ty Kelly?
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| 10:51 |
: Carson special. High walk/no power AAAA guy.
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| 10:51 |
: Ty Kelly is a Beanie Baby.
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| 10:51 |
: I thought Ty’s weren’t allowed in baseball.
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| 10:51 |
: not after how the last one turned out
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| 10:52 |
: Ty Kelly looks like a computer programmer, not a major league baseball player.
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| 10:52 |
: Ty from IT
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| 10:52 |
: Bumgarner celebrating! Go yell at him BumBum!
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| 10:52 |
: Emotion
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| 10:52 |
: BUMGARNER SHOWED EMOTION
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| 10:53 |
: 103 pitches for Bumgarner. Probably won’t come up to bat in the top of the 9th, think he comes out to pitch again?
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| 10:53 |
: Yes. I would bet he’s going 120+.
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| 10:55 |
: August, where’s E at? We need players named Ty who used to play in the MLB. All I can think of is Ty Wiggingham, Ty Cobb.
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| 10:55 |
: yeah Cobb is the one I was referring to
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| 10:55 |
: forgot about Wigginton
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| 10:55 |
: that has to be one of the easiest come backers all-time.
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| 10:55 |
: yeah that was so weird
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| 10:55 |
: he had time to get under it
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| 10:55 |
: So the beeping in that Echo commercial just freaked my dog out.
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| 10:55 |
: She got so scared she ran upstairs.
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| 10:55 |
: Thanks, Amazon!
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| 10:55 |
: I wait in silence during the commerials
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| 10:56 |
: Look at this. Using your closer in the 9th of a tie game! Revolutionary
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| 10:57 |
: Home team.
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| 10:57 |
: Little different being the home team
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| 10:57 |
: but still
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| 10:57 |
: — Buck Showalter.
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| 10:57 |
: I want to say that I love having this outlet to watching amazing playoff baseball together with you guys. Everyone I know in real life hates baseball and I don’t really dig sports bars.
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| 10:57 |
: <3
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| 10:57 |
: The vindication of Showalter.
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| 10:57 |
: That looked like it might be caught off the bat.
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| 10:58 |
: See? closer in a non-save situtation. Not going well
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| 10:58 |
: oh god here comes the even year magic
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| 10:58 |
: Bad. Zone.
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| 10:58 |
: Where was that pitch?!
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| 10:58 |
: this strikezone has become a joke
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| 10:58 |
: Another strike taken away by Rivera.
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| 10:58 |
: where are these pitches
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| 10:59 |
: rivera stabbing at these low strikes is killing the mets!
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| 10:59 |
: Could this game bring framing into the national discussion?
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| 10:59 |
: I think it already is.
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| 11:00 |
: Rivera one of baseball’s best framers this year: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1921605
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| 11:01 |
: Maybe this is why BumBum has been throwing it down the middle
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| 11:02 |
: That was like a 6 strike AB.
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| 11:02 |
: Huuuuge K.
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| 11:02 |
: That’s a big K. Helluva journey to get there
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| 11:03 |
: Dave, linguists have said that periods in texts make you look like a “monster.” At least according to NY Magazine
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| 11:03 |
: co-sign
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| 11:04 |
: Are we all just going to gloss over bunting in that situation?
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| 11:04 |
: Nope!
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| 11:04 |
: #neverbunt
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| 11:04 |
: You should bunt sometimes.
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| 11:04 |
: But not that often.
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| 11:04 |
: Who has the bigger postseason legend at this point: Bumgarner or Ortiz?
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| 11:04 |
: Beltran
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| 11:05 |
: I didn’t like the 2-0 or 3-1 bunt. I didn’t even really like a bunt at all with a lefty hitter.
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| 11:05 |
: Freese
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| 11:05 |
: bigger postseason legend……. Dave Roberts
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| 11:06 |
: honestly the biggest postseason legend is probably Buckner
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| 11:06 |
: just
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| 11:06 |
: pinch hit for madbum if it comes to him?
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| 11:06 |
: y’know
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| 11:06 |
: Yes
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| 11:07 |
: This decision has to be a blog tomorrow, right?
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| 11:07 |
: Or later tonight!
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| 11:08 |
: Gillespie with a couple cup adjustments. All-time leader in the category has to be Jim Thome.
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| 11:08 |
: wow great 80 tool
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| 11:08 |
: Thome cup adjustment
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| 11:09 |
: CRUSHED!!!!
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| 11:09 |
: Wow
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| 11:09 |
: What??
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| 11:09 |
: oh i guess a home run is coming
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| 11:09 |
: Good night
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| 11:09 |
: Ballgame
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| 11:09 |
: there it is
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| 11:09 |
: even year
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| 11:09 |
: Now you don’t pinch hit
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| 11:09 |
: Guess BumBum is hitting after all
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| 11:09 |
: God, not the Giants again.
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| 11:09 |
: did that ball not even look like it was hit that well or was it just me
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| 11:09 |
: Baseball is awesome. That is all.
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| 11:09 |
: felt like Bruce/Bumgarner/others all made better contacts
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| 11:09 |
: it didn’t look hard hit, no.
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| 11:09 |
: That ball carried better than any other one tonight.
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| 11:10 |
: See! This is why you dont bring your closer in to a tie game!
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| 11:11 |
: When sinker ballers throw it belt high
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| 11:11 |
: This stadium is dead silent
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| 11:12 |
: Would Dave Cameron be sending Bumgarner back out at this point or bringing in Romo/Smith/Casilla/Strickland?
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| 11:12 |
: I’d probably stick with Bumgarner, with Romo/Smith warming.
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| 11:12 |
: 3 run lead, should be able to hold it fairly easily, so give Bumgarner chance for CG.
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| 11:14 |
: Update on the O/U 6 hits by BumBum and Thor combined — They are currently at exactly 6.
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| 11:14 |
: Madison Bumgarner and Conor Gillaspie have a combined .945 WPA
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| 11:15 |
: Who would have been the bigger underdog vs the cubs?
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| 11:15 |
: How do you continue to pitch if you’re Familia?
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| 11:15 |
: Mets.
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| 11:15 |
: better
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| 11:15 |
: Their roster is decimated.
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| 11:16 |
: I was pulling for the Mets for precisely that reason. As a Cub fan, I’ve got no interest in seeing Cueto and BumBum 3 times.
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| 11:16 |
: So as a Mets fan, do I get upset about the even year bullshit, or just appreciate that this was a great game from start to familia?
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| 11:16 |
: Given all the injuries, probably just be happy you got a meaningful game in October.
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| 11:17 |
: Dave, does Bumgarner start to look like an HOF candidate given the postseason multiplier you discussed on the podcast?
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| 11:17 |
: The bar for SPs is so high right now.
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| 11:17 |
: If Mussina and Schilling can’t get in, I’m not comfortable assuming writers will put anyone in.
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| 11:19 |
: Can someone tell me how the Mets got to the playoffs in the first place with this anemic lineup and a decimated rotation?
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| 11:19 |
: The NL has three good teams.
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| 11:19 |
: But five postseason spots.
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| 11:19 |
: Game 2 is of the NLDS is Saturday (three days rest) Game 5 is Thursday (5 days later), any chance Bum goes twice next series?
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| 11:20 |
: Would bet they’ll lean that way.
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| 11:20 |
: August when’s your next BDSM workshop / Playoff chat?
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| 11:20 |
: can’t answer either of these questions for very different reasons
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| 11:21 |
: And Schilling also had post season drama and he does not seem to get much credit for that.
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| 11:21 |
: Schilling’s lack of Hall of Fame love is confounding
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| 11:21 |
: Schilling not being in is so insane.
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| 11:21 |
: BumBum does it again
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| 11:21 |
: Those guys are victims of crowded ballots though, right?
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| 11:21 |
: I bet Bum’s playoff legacy carries him in if he’s even close
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| 11:22 |
: Congrats to the Giants.
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| 11:22 |
: And Madison Bumgarner, who is really something.
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| 11:22 |
: thanks for chatting everyone! always fun.
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| 11:24 |
: Indeed. Thanks for hanging out everyone.
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| 11:24 |
: We’ll see you again later this postseason!
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| 11:25 |
: And as a representative of everyone outside of the bay area, let’s go Cubs!
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Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Somehow, somehow at this point I even kind of expect the Giants to win in the playoffs and the Dodgers to lose, but what really drives the icepick through my fan heart is when Bumgarner continues to dominate the playoffs, even though every FIP-indicator says he shouldn’t be, and Kershaw continues to be mediocre even though every FIP-indicator says he is dominating. I should not care about the reputations of these specific individuals so much. That is all. Carry on.
Kershaw has allowed more BB & HR than Bumgarner has in almost 30 less innings. IMO Bumgarner has pitched better. Also, IMO Kershaw is a better pitcher.
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