2016 NL Wild Card Live Blog

7:59
Dave Cameron: Welcome to the NL Wild Card live blog. August Fagerstrom and I will be hanging out with you tonight.

7:59
Dave Cameron: Let’s do a poll!

8:00
Dave Cameron: On the question of who you’re rooting for, there’s no wrong answer, unless you picked the Giants.

8:01
Dave Cameron: Because we’ve all seen enough San Francisco championships lately.

8:02
Dave Cameron: Do the Giants really draw a bunch of walks? This doesn’t feel like a high walk team.

8:03
Dave Cameron: Huh, 4th in MLB in BB%. Who knew?

8:03
anonymous: Just for that, I’m rooting for the Giants tonight

8:04
5 Run Homer: Do you think Syndergaaard’s problems with the running game will affect this game in any tangible way?

8:04
Dave Cameron: I think the Giants will run every chance they have.

8:04
Dave Cameron: The question is how many baserunners they get.

8:04
weezy: Brewers 3rd in bb%… also who knew?

8:05
Matt: Who will have more combined strikeouts tonight – hitters, or pitchers?

8:05
Dave Cameron: Hmm. This is either a trick question, or I’m an idiot, but won’t the pitchers and hitters have the exact same number of strikeouts?

8:06
Brian: Those options are not mutually exclusive, Dave.

8:07
august fagerstrom: Hello! I am here now!

8:07
Ryan: Over/Under 6 hits allowed combined by both starters?

8:07
Dave Cameron: Over, easily

8:08
august fagerstrom: Can’t wait to watch this game on significant delay and get all the biggest moments spoiled by this chat!

8:08
Pinstripe Wizard: So we got one handed August and otherwise occupied Dave. I expect big things from this chat.

8:08
Dave Cameron: I left the wife with the baby and the dog and found a sports bar.

8:08
Dave Cameron: So I’m good, at least until the drunks start eyeing my laptop.

8:09
John: Hot damn, Laptop at the Sports Bar Guy!

8:09
august fagerstrom: Live-blogging on your laptop in a sports bar is like the epitome of FanGraphs nerdom

8:09
august fagerstrom: well done Dave

8:09
Dave Cameron: And if anyone cares, I ordered nachos from the bar for dinner. They are the Ubaldo Jimenez of nachos.

8:10
SpencerLB: They were super good 6 years ago?

8:10
Michelle: Dave, are you drinking at the bar? If so, what’re you having?

8:10
Dave Cameron: I don’t drink, so water. I’m extra annoying bar attendee.

8:10
Dave Cameron: But I tip well.

8:11
august fagerstrom: First pitch from Syndergaard is 98. Mets must be concerned the velo is so low.

8:12
august fagerstrom: Now 97! Get him out, TC

8:12
Dave Cameron: A strikeout!

8:12
august fagerstrom: god you’re sooo far ahead of me dave

8:12
Matt: August – why are you streaming? No cable?

8:13
august fagerstrom: bingo

8:13
Dave Cameron: I don’t know how anyone ever hits this guy.

8:13
august fagerstrom: hey Dave isn’t there a way to get the new messages to come in at the top of queue rather than the bottom

8:13
Bork: August is the Carson of tonight. He had no idea what was going on all game

8:13
august fagerstrom: could’ve sworn that was a feature but can’t find it

8:13
anonymous: How is paying for cable not a tax write-off for sports journalists?

8:13
august fagerstrom: yeah Dave

8:13
august fagerstrom: how isn’t it

8:13
Dave Cameron: You do realize tax writeoffs don’t make things free, right?

8:13
august fagerstrom: oh

8:13
Dave Cameron: (It is, though)

8:14
august fagerstrom: !

8:14
Timb: Question: someone on fangraphs said fangraphs says the mets have a 53% chance to win. But on the fnagaohs playoff odds page has them at a 43% chance to move to the division series. What’s the difference?

8:14
Dave Cameron: The playoff odds on the standings page don’t take pitching match-ups into account.

8:14
Dave Cameron: Or lineups

8:14
Dave Cameron: Use the ones on the scoreboard

8:15
Jay Z: Are you going to any of the games in Cleveland August?

8:15
august fagerstrom: yes I am, Mr. Jay-Z sir

8:16
august fagerstrom: I will be at them all

8:16
Jordan: August why aren’t you the one at a bar?

8:16
august fagerstrom: Just got home for the first time in two weeks! Couldn’t be happier to be in my own apartment

8:17
Dave Cameron: Wait, you’ve been in the hospital?

8:17
Nietsniew: I love that Thor throws a 93 MPH slider

8:17
Bob: My strategy against Bumgarner would be to bait him into getting ejected/crazy. The Odell Beckham strategy in baseball

8:17
august fagerstrom: Mom’s house! Wasn’t really able to do most things on my own until a few days ago

8:17
Dave Cameron: Well I feel like a jerk for making you work now.

8:18
Dave Cameron: But I’m just living up to my reputation, I guess.

8:18
august fagerstrom: I devised a system using a series of pillows and a USB keyboard that put my immobilized arm in a pretty decent position to type.

8:18
Dave Cameron: Nachos update: they’re actually getting worse as I eat them. They’re now more like the Jared Weaver of nachos.

8:18
august fagerstrom: what’s on the nachos

8:18
John: Here’s hoping Thor throws a gem. As a Cubs fan i’d much rather face the Mets for some reason.

8:19
Dave Cameron: Maybe because all their other good pitchers are hurt?

8:19
Bork: Will you be in the press box or just rando seats?

8:19
John: Nachos have an incredibly steep aging curve

8:19
august fagerstrom: press box

8:19
AJ: Isn’t it Jered?

8:19
Dave Cameron: These nachos are so bad they’re like Jered’s less talented twin.

8:19
BARTOLO COLON: WHAT SAY YE ABOUT THE OTHER GOOD PITCHERS? BARTY ANGRY

8:20
The Hamburglar: What sports bar are you at, Dave? So we know to never go there and eat nachos

8:20
Dave Cameron: I don’t want to call them out. They’re letting me live blog here.

8:20
Bork: Jay Bruce looks like he won a contest to be an MLB player for a day and just never left.

8:21
a: lol I’ve never even heard of TJ Rivera

8:21
august fagerstrom: I’ve seen him referred to as Rene on *Mets* broadcasts on multiple occassions

8:21
august fagerstrom: They dont know who he is either

8:21
another Ryan: So without cable how are you streaming?

8:21
Miky: Hello everyone, 2:20 am here in Czech Republic, go Mets!

8:21
august fagerstrom: MLB.tv!

8:22
august fagerstrom: and a PS4

8:22
august fagerstrom: which is a terrible combination

8:22
august fagerstrom: MLBtv works perfectly on my Xbox and lags constantly on my Ps4. But the Ps4 is where the big tv is.

8:22
august fagerstrom: Most first-world problem of all time ^^^

8:22
august fagerstrom: Surprised Bumgarner didnt go Clemens and throw the ball back at Asdrubal

8:22
august fagerstrom: (yes i know it was a bat)

8:23
anonymous: Is Yo’s walk-up music really the Lion King opening credits theme?

8:23
august fagerstrom: HELL YES

8:23
ChatzMcGee: Cespedes coming out to The Circle of Life is pretty great.

8:23
august fagerstrom: Posey setting up real high on the heat

8:24
august fagerstrom: High fastballs: MadBum’s strength, Yo’s weakness. Interesting matchup

8:24
Dave Cameron: Fun story: when I was a kid, I really wanted the soundtrack, so i traded my brother that I would take his chore of mowing the lawn if he bought it for me (and drove us there to buy it). So he traded mowing the lawn for two years for a $13 tape.

8:24
The Hamburglar: Couldnt you just switch the PS4 and Xbox….

8:24
John: Curvesconnect.com hahahaha

8:24
Dave Cameron: This is a real thing?

8:24
Dave Cameron: That commercial wasn’t an onion video?

8:25
august fagerstrom: Aha! But I keep the Xbox in my room to watch (totally legally downloaded) movies/Tv shows on a flash drive in bed, which the PS4 frustratingly does not support

8:25
Uncle Jimbo: You are the Dave Stewart of tapes.

8:25
august fagerstrom: it’s quite the conundrum

8:25
Pinstripe Wizard: Why is Reyes starting a playoff game?

8:25
august fagerstrom: he’s actually been good

8:25
august fagerstrom: plus everyone on the Mets is hurt, anyway

8:26
august fagerstrom: but even if they weren’t, Reyes has been surprisingly solid.

8:26
Ozzie: Other best walk up songs in MLB? I nominate Rizzo coming up to Bad Blood by TSwift.

8:26
august fagerstrom: Lindor – Space Jam theme song

8:26
Bork: Why is Reyes allowed to have that hair in a playoff game?

8:26
Dave Cameron: More apt question; why is Reyes allowed to play in the postseason? Suspended for PEDs = no playoffs. Suspended for domestic violence = ehh be an October here.

8:27
The Hamburglar: Ya, but I mean…You just switch it for one night. Disconnect the xbox and plug it into the big TV for the night

8:27
august fagerstrom: i have one arm

8:27
august fagerstrom: Syndergaard is so good that I was legitimately impressed by how well Pence hit that ball

8:27
august fagerstrom: That was like 99 on the inner-black

8:28
Strumpet: Beltre can hit home runs on one knee. Surely you can connect an xbox with one arm.

8:28
Dave Cameron: I continue to not know how anyone hits Thor.

8:29
august fagerstrom: It was mostly a cop-out answer because I hadn’t even thought of that idea.

8:29
Otis Redding: At the same time though, Syndergaard does provide all the velocity for that ball to go far!

8:29
august fagerstrom: pretty sure this has been proven to not be a thing

8:29
Dave Cameron: Correct.

8:29
Dave Cameron: A pitcher’s velo provides something like 15% of the variance in batted ball distance.

8:29
Vic Romano: Do you literally have only one arm now? Or did you just have one of your arms immobilized and rendered temporarily less-than-fully-usable?

8:30
august fagerstrom: the latter

8:30
Dave Cameron: 92 slider down and in.

8:30
Dave Cameron: And he made contact!

8:30
Dave Cameron: Baseball players are amazing.

8:30
Dave Cameron: Thor is more amazing.

8:31
august fagerstrom: selling him short on that repertoire box by maxing his velo out at 100

8:31
a eskpert: Relevant Ted Williams Quote; “I never want to face him again.”

8:31
britishcub: just go for deep counts giants! get the ‘pen in there

8:31
Dave Cameron: Mets pen is not bad.

8:32
august fagerstrom: HUNTER PENCE!

8:32
Dave Cameron: Thor is good.

8:32
august fagerstrom: holy shit

8:32
august fagerstrom: what a guy

8:32
august fagerstrom: whenever Syndergaard isnt pitching, the camera should just be on Hunter Oence

8:32
august fagerstrom: and I mean like always. in the offseason and stuff too

8:33
Dave Cameron: Did you know Pence partially re-signed in SF because he liked riding his scooter to the park?

8:33
august fagerstrom: Yeah I think I just learned that a couple weeks ago. Amazing

8:33
august fagerstrom: Terry Francona lives a couple buildings down from me and rides his scooter to the park too

8:33
august fagerstrom: Seeing him on it in the street is hysterical

8:33
Sean: he can’t take his scooter to another city?

8:33
Dave Cameron: Most cities aren’t as scooter friendly.

8:34
august fagerstrom:

8:34
The Hamburglar: Hunter Pence looks like he’s on LSD

8:34
Bork: Hunter Pence scares me.

8:34
SpencerLB: Hunter Pence looks like he’s in the dugout telling everyone about the government nanobots in their brains.

8:34
Paul: Is Hunter Pence Enzo Amore?

8:34
Jonathan : Pretty sure fangraphs called Addison Reed a right handed Andrew Miller within the last two months

8:34
august fagerstrom: that was me!

8:34
The Hamburglar: That Francona picture looks like the lamest Jason Bourne sequel

8:36
Sonny: Is Carson here? I’ve used wildflower seeds to create a meadow garden and replace grass. I’d like to discuss this and Hunter Pence in no order

8:36
Dave Cameron: We put him back to pasture.

8:36
august fagerstrom: People who watch the Mets: How has Granderson looked in CF?

8:36
Clare: Can someone verify if my comments are going thru, I posted a couple but dont see any, thanks.

8:36
august fagerstrom: yes they’re here. we have to push them through, and there’s a ton of them

8:37
Dave Cameron: Hmm, just noticed my laptop battery is already down to 59%. This should be a fun race to the end of the game.

8:37
august fagerstrom: you didn’t bring a charger?

8:37
Dave Cameron: To a bar?

8:37
Sirras: Does MadBum have a popup tendency in general? Seems like he’s gotten nearly everybody on them.

8:37
Dave Cameron: Are bars known for their outlet options?

8:38
august fagerstrom: almost exactly league average

8:38
august fagerstrom: might be able to find one!

8:38
ChatzMcGee: The Mets really should work the counts though…

8:38
Dave Cameron: My battery disagrees.

8:39
brendan: gameday thingy is marking all the bumgarner outs as ‘popouts’. Is that accurate? Have the mets done nothing but hit short harmless flies?

8:39
EccentricChemist: At this pace…how long can each SP go…13 innings?

8:39
august fagerstrom: actually pretty much yeah

8:39
august fagerstrom: (to brendan)

8:39
Dave Cameron: It will be interesting to see what it takes for Bochy to go to the pen.

8:39
Miky: Not bringing a charger is like not using your best reliever, man.

8:39
Dave Cameron: Or if he just goes with Cueto after Bumgarner and says screw my relievers.

8:39
august fagerstrom: *fire emojis*

8:39
Nate: You went to a bar to watch the game, you’re not going to drink, and you plan to be there 3 hours?

8:39
august fagerstrom: THE ROAST OF DAVE CAMERON

8:39
august fagerstrom: LET’S GOOOO

8:40
Dave Cameron: Other option was to fight off a grumpy toddler and an energetic dog.

8:40
Dave Cameron: The key to successful live blogging? Be single and petless.

8:40
Well-Beered Englishman: Which do you prefer:
1. grumpy toddler and energetic dog
2. energetic toddler and grumpy dog

8:41
Dave Cameron: I think #2.

8:41
Dave Cameron: Energetic dog must be exercised outside, and it’s cold.

8:41
august fagerstrom: Man Syndergaard is just painting the corners on the bottom of the zone

8:41
EccentricChemist: Odds that one of the pitcher’s gets a hit before one of the hitters?

8:41
Dave Cameron: I don’t know how anyone gets a hit tonight.

8:41
august fagerstrom: Seems like everything’s been low from Syndergaard and high from Bumgarner

8:41
august fagerstrom: Jeeeeeeesus

8:41
august fagerstrom: Just saw the first K

8:42
august fagerstrom: that swing

8:42
LT: Sf contact tendencies not exactly coming through atm

8:42
Dave Cameron: Maybe time to refresh your stream, August.

8:42
august fagerstrom: first K of the inning I mean!

8:42
august fagerstrom: Gillaspie is up? With one out in the third? Is that bad?

8:43
Dave Cameron: Actually, Britton is pitching, bottom 9.

8:43
Dave Cameron: This is just silly.

8:43
Dan Uggla: Thor is a monster.

8:43
SpencerLB: I know this is redundant, but Thor is a god.

8:43
Miky: How is Thor even fair I dont know

8:43
Cap: This is fun.

8:44
Jack: You have one at-bat: rather face Thor, or Chapman?

8:44
Dave Cameron: I’m good, I’ll pass.

8:44
LT: That might be the hardest hit ball all night

8:44
august fagerstrom: Bumgarner best hit ball of the nighit. Ha

8:45
weezy: man I wanted a pticher dinger

8:45
Dave Cameron: Tom Cruise looks weird now.

8:46
SpencerLB: Is this going to be a 90 minute game?

8:46
august fagerstrom: i’m all for it

8:46
august fagerstrom: except now i’ve jinxed it

8:46
august fagerstrom: damnit

8:46
Dave Cameron: We pay hourly now, August.

8:46
Dave Cameron: FYI.

8:46
august fagerstrom: i’m tired enough to take the hit

8:47
Dave Cameron: That laying down in bed while your mom takes care of you really take it out of you these last few weeks?

8:47
Jaack: If Bumgarner decided to become a full time position player for some reason this offseason, how many dingers would he hit over the course of the season?

8:47
Bork: THE ROAST OF AUGUST FAGERSTROM

8:47
august fagerstrom: he still strikes out in like 40% of his at-bats. he’d get adjusted to pretty quick

8:47
Dave Cameron: A hit!

8:47
august fagerstrom: Ha! I was up till ~5AM writing that Pillar post last night and had a post-op appointment at 9AM this morning

8:48
august fagerstrom: running on fumes

8:48
august fagerstrom: A hit!

8:48
august fagerstrom: sick stat there

8:48
august fagerstrom: 3-for-4

8:48
Vic Romano: Is “fumes” your little secret word of “awesome painkillers”?

8:48
august fagerstrom: painkillers make me sick. ditched them after day 3 or 4

8:48
Dave Cameron: James Loney starting against a lefty in an elimination game. 2016.

8:49
august fagerstrom: A hit erased!

8:49
CarrotJuice: Loney: because scoring is overrated

8:49
Scott: Pitches with a runner on base: 1

8:50
Jack: I feel like this Mets team is just a compilation of players I don’t know

8:50
Count Von Count: I find it funny how the Mets are the ones making all the contact and the Giants are making all the strikeouts

8:50
CarrotJuice: Thor looks majestic even when he swings and misses.

8:50
Minty: August, I’m getting labrum surgery on Monday. 75% of my left labrum is torn or born without it. Any post op suggestions?

8:50
Oden: 7 pitches each inning

8:50
august fagerstrom: Have someone close by to do everything for you

8:51
G: Bumgarner on course to throw a complete game in 63 pitches.

8:51
Miky: 3 innings complete in like 10 minutes

8:52
Dave Cameron: 43, but still, this is moving.

8:52
Ben: I think the least pitches in a CG this year was 89

8:52
august fagerstrom: double playoff Maddux watch

8:52
Al: Maybe we get an old school 10+ shutout innings start here? that would be sweet

8:52
Minty: August, I’m just happy that I’m right handed. It’ll keep me from playing hockey goalie for 4-6 months. I also heard to sleep in a good recliner.

8:53
august fagerstrom: yes! this should’ve been my advice

8:53
Dave Cameron: Wonder how many more pitches Bumgarner would be allowed to throw than Thor tonight? I’d bet it’s at least 30.

8:53
august fagerstrom: recliner is somehow way more comfortable than bed

8:53
Sam: Considering the Giants bullpen I wouldn’t take BumBum out before the 15th

8:53
august fagerstrom: #BumBum

8:54
Al: What would you guess the pitch limits are? 120 for syndergaard and 150 for madbum?

8:54
Dave Cameron: 110/140

8:54
Dave Cameron: Or maybe 115/145.

8:54
Scott: Why 30 pitches higher for BumBum?

8:54
Dave Cameron: Thor has the bone spur, is younger, doesn’t have Bumgarner’s track record of health.

8:55
Vic Romano: Taking the over on 6 combined hits allowed for these guys seems like a bad bet at this point…

8:55
a: and giants bullpen sucks

8:55
Jt: I know you should evaluate pitchers on batters faced and times through the order and not pitch counts. But when a guy is cruising and guys are swinging at the first pitch can you stretch it? It may take you 5 at bats before you see everything a pitchers got

8:56
august fagerstrom: I think the correct answer is no, it shouldnt change things, but it’s also not the human answer

8:56
AJ: Thor’a motion looks very simple and non dangerous for lack of a better word does that bide well for his arm? His motion seems easy

8:56
Dave Cameron: I don’t think there’s any evidence that we can look at a guy’s delivery and determine he’ll be fine or not.

8:57
august fagerstrom: I also kind of disagree

8:57
august fagerstrom: It seems like he uses so little of his body

8:57
britishcub: bravo span working that count

8:57
august fagerstrom: Which is a thing scouts don’t like, right? Because it puts more stress on the arm? I don’t know. I’m out of my element. I don’t even know if he uses less body than the average pitcher

8:57
Dave Cameron: Scouts tend to just not like small/skinny guys. Beyond that, I don’t know that there’s much consensus.

8:58
august fagerstrom: Also any delivery that results in 102MPH is dangerous. Velocity is a killer

8:58
Andy: “Seriously, don’t look at motions to project arm issues down the road.” — Chris Sale

8:58
august fagerstrom: “sure thing” — Stephen Strasburg

8:58
august fagerstrom: sorry

8:59
Dave Cameron: Did he get tagged in the face?

8:59
august fagerstrom: Syndergaard really acting like he can hold baserunners

8:59
SpencerLB: THOSE GIANTS STOLEN BASES WE WERE WAITING FOR

8:59
august fagerstrom: ha! and then he immedaitely gets thrown out

8:59
Bork: The closeline tag, very effective.

8:59
august fagerstrom: shows what I know

8:59
Matt: He might be safe!

8:59
Dave Cameron: Pretty clearly safe.

9:00
Vic Romano: That might be one of those cases where he very briefly came off the bag between the lead foot and the bag leg.

9:00
Dave Cameron: Think the arm was on.

9:01
Jt: Sliding off the bag is the worst side effect of replay

9:01
Dave Cameron: Agreed.

9:01
Dave Cameron: Uh, ok.

9:01
Nick: Giants have to be fuming.

9:01
Nick: Wow.

9:01
august fagerstrom: it’s funny because every time I see a play like this now I think to myself “would’ve been out with Baez tagging”

9:01
august fagerstrom: oh ok he’s out anyway

9:01
ChatzMcGee: Ohhh, August is never right.

9:01
Spry: I think it’s because his foot comes off

9:02
Dave Cameron: So silly.

9:02
Dave Cameron: Runners beats throw, runner safe.

9:02
Dave Cameron: If you are like a foot off the bag, okay, you’re out.

9:02
Nodog: Does anyone else hate it when guys get called out for coming off the bag for a fraction of a second — something impossible to see in real time?

9:02
august fagerstrom: yes so much

9:02
Dave Cameron: But momentarily lose contact because of physics? Still safe.

9:02
august fagerstrom: does not seem to be in the spirit of replay at all

9:02
august fagerstrom: but it’s there, and they cant ignore it

9:02
Matt: “As a compromise between people who want replay and those who don’t, we’ll add replay but make the entire system make no sense.” – MLB

9:03
Paul: Rule 162.2 – “If you’re a foot off the bag, okay, you’re out” haha. Not disparaging you, just, damn it must be hard to write a rulebook, no?

9:03
Dave Cameron: Yes, defining this stuff is tough. But this current definition is dumb.

9:04
Guest:

9:04
Ichbod von Nutsack: Just change the oversliding rule to be that you’re considered on the bag once you touch it until your whole body goes past it on the other side

9:04
Dave Cameron: Yeah, something like a vertical extension of the base would be my suggestion. If you’re over the base, but not touching it, still safe.

9:05
Dakota McKee: you should be able to shoot webbing from your cleats (a la spiderman but the feet) so that call doesn’t happen

9:05
august fagerstrom: strong agree here

9:05
Dave Cameron: Thor getting help.

9:06
Dave Cameron: A big zone and this stuff is unfair.

9:06
Brad: Hunter pence looks like he eats raw eggs for breakfast

9:06
Timb: That K brought to you by the Umpire’s Union

9:07
The Hamburglar: He got help on that, but ball 2 was a strike

9:08
Bork: So the reasoning is that they didn’t have enough evidence to overturn it. If it was called safe, would they have enough evidence to overturn it?

9:08
Dave Cameron: Yeah, default to whatever is on the field call.

9:08
Matt: Hunter Pence looks like he eats recently hatched eggs for breakfast

9:08
Dave Cameron: Laptop battery update: 45%. Don’t think I’m going to make it.

9:08
Dave Cameron: Nachos update: still awful

9:09
The Hamburglar: Let’s see when Dave’s laptop battery life meets Bumgarner’s pitch count

9:10
Paul: My name is Hunter Pence. I am a certified G and a bonafide stud and you…can’t…teach…that

9:10
august fagerstrom: didn’t realize Brian Wilson got into wrestling

9:11
The Hamburglar: Leave it to Jose Reyes to be the first Met to work the count

9:12
anonymous: Working the count = fouling off pitches outside of the zone

9:12
Triple deek: Jose Reyes has seen like 25% of the total pitches

9:13
Dave Cameron: Well that was a terrible pitch.

9:13
august fagerstrom: That was kind of a weird segment, talking about how he’s trying to come in but missing over the plate while showing pitches spotted right at the upper edge of the zone

9:13
august fagerstrom: Maybe the approach is up, not in?

9:14
Dave Cameron: It’s kind of the Giants thing, after all.

9:14
Nodog: Is it possible MadBum’s post-season greatness is a skill?

9:14
august fagerstrom: His skill is just being great always, and constantly having the opportunity to pitch in the postseason

9:15
There’s No God: Jetering

9:15
Dave Cameron: Asdrubal got like four meatballs in that at-bat.

9:15
Dave Cameron: Finally got one.

9:16
Netflix and Rich Hill: Cabrera’s spray chart would show he should be shifted with 7 guys down the left field line in his next PA

9:16
august fagerstrom: Conor Gillaspie and Jose Reyes being the starting third basemen for the Giants and Mets, respectively, in a Wild Card game in the year 2016 is too good

9:17
Dave Cameron: Pretty sure the high fastball thing is the plan to Yo.

9:17
august fagerstrom: I like that HR graphic

9:17
august fagerstrom: Yeah, the approach against Yo couldn’t be more obvious

9:18
Dave Cameron: This is just one pitch over and over.

9:18
august fagerstrom: i love this

9:18
Dave Cameron: And that’s different.

9:19
Triple deek: I can’t believe he got a piece of that

9:19
Dave Cameron: I don’t think Bumgarner threw a pitch in the zone that whole at-bat.

9:20
anonymous: swing at ALL the things!

9:20
august fagerstrom: Bumgarner vs. Cespedes currently in the lead for “thing i want to write about tomorrow”

9:20
august fagerstrom: maybe now usurped by Yo’s hair

9:20
Dave Cameron: That breaking ball was great.

9:21
Mattingly’s Sideburns: Say you had an extreme groundball pitcher on the mound and a batter that very rarely hit the ball to RF should a team play with 5 infielders and shift your 2 OFs accordingly?

9:21
august fagerstrom: oh you mean howie kendrick

9:21
Triple deek: Being a lefty here must suck

9:22
S: Why does it seem like there’s so many underwhelming rosters in the postseason this year?

9:22
august fagerstrom: injuries

9:22
Kyle: cameron battery update vs mad bum pitch count?

9:22
Dave Cameron: He passed me a minute or two ago.

9:23
Compton: When they had the HR v LHP graphic overlaid, you could see Yoenis’ pre-AB swings go directly through the heart of the plot. Anything to that?

9:23
SpencerLB: The 4th inning is as long as the first 3 innings

9:23
august fagerstrom: Yeah, Pedro talked about this on MLB Network last year. Been meaning to write a post about that actually

9:23
august fagerstrom: He said he’d look at hitter’s pre-AB swings and read their planes

9:23
august fagerstrom: That they’d alwas swing where they wanted the ball

9:23
Dave Cameron: Got away with another middle-middle fastball.

9:24
Dave Cameron: Bumgarner’s command that inning was awful.

9:25
Bork: Who’s going to take over if Dave’s laptop doesn’t make it? Surely you don’t trust the one armed man.

9:25
august fagerstrom:

9:25
Josiah: thats why you always bring a charger

9:25
august fagerstrom: A++++++++ comment

9:26
weezy: so this is the thing about command I find interesting: Thor’s painted the black on lots of pitches, BumBum missed a lot of spots that inning. But Thor’s got two walks, MadBum none. I know rediculously SSS, but have we moved away from bb% as a proxy for command?

9:26
august fagerstrom: I’m not sure many people view BB% as a proxy for command

9:26
august fagerstrom: BB% is a proxy for *control* which is an annoying stipulation but a necesssary one

9:26
Dave Cameron: Yeah. There are definitely guys with control but not command; low walk dudes who just center everything and get lit up. Carlos Silva was always my go to example.

9:26
august fagerstrom: also pretty sure stipulation is not the word I was looking for there but I’m tired so whatever

9:27
Joe: August, can you please explain the difference between command and control?

9:27
august fagerstrom: control = putting ball over plate

9:27
august fagerstrom: command = putting ball where you want, when you want

9:27
august fagerstrom: AKA being able to throw fastball to all four quadrants of the zone, being able to frontdoor/backdoor slider, etc.

9:28
Triple deek: I hate the behind the plate camera angle

9:28
Dave Cameron: It is so useless.

9:28
august fagerstrom: it’s so bad

9:28
august fagerstrom: except for the occasional gif where you see how much a pitch moves

9:28
august fagerstrom: but for in-game viewing, it’s terrible

9:28
Matt: You guys should have a podcast you name Command & Control. Sounds badass.

9:28
Dave Cameron: Sounds like a dice game.

9:28
Dave Cameron: I bet Szymborski plays it.

9:29
Nick: Would a pitcher with the ability to throw 95 MPH within an inch’s accuracy be able to survive if it was his only pitch?

9:29
Dave Cameron: You mean Mariano Rivera?

9:29
august fagerstrom: I was gonna say it sounds like something out of the BDSM community

9:29
august fagerstrom: But that’s a little dark for a baseball chat.

9:29
august fagerstrom: So I didn’t say it.

9:29
Evan: August deserves credit for not bringing that up.

9:29
Bubba: Isn’t that what Bartolo Colon does? Only with an 88 mph fastball?

9:30
Dave Cameron: 93 mph sliders are so nasty you can hang them and still get whiffs.

9:30
BumBum: Chat’s not awkward now thanks August.

9:30
august fagerstrom: np

9:30
Dave Cameron: That was 80 stuff, 20 location.

9:30
august fagerstrom: 93 slider!

9:30
august fagerstrom: what the hell!

9:31
Pinstripe Wizard: Dave mentions dice games. August mentions fetishes. I think that’s basically this chat in a nutshell.

9:31
jon: Who are 80 command pitchers in MLB today

9:31
august fagerstrom: Kershaw

9:31
august fagerstrom: Miller

9:31
august fagerstrom: fin?

9:31
Dave Cameron: Colon.

9:31
august fagerstrom: Colon, yeah

9:31
Rico: Nasty 89 change bottom of the zone

9:32
august fagerstrom: ooooooh my god that 88 change

9:32
Anthony: Hendricks an 80 command guy???

9:32
Dave Cameron: Feels early to say that yet.

9:32
Dave Cameron: But maybe.

9:32
august fagerstrom: Think that’s getting liberal with 80s

9:32
Wes: That change was as fast as Tillmans fastball from last night

9:33
august fagerstrom: It’s funny, whenever you asks the 80 question, you answer the top two or three logical guys, and then keep trying to extend the list further and further

9:33
Sonny: goodness this is so much better than Tillman and Ubaldo

9:33
august fagerstrom: Thus discrediting the entire idea of an 80, which is like 3+ standard deviation guys, meaning by definition there should only be a couple

9:33
Dave Cameron: Peak Cliff Lee was an 85

9:34
Dave Cameron: Watching him, then watching Felix the next day, made me actually dislike watching Felix, which felt impossible.

9:34
Aaron: I miss peak Cliff Lee so much

9:34
Dave Cameron: The best.

9:34
august fagerstrom: my all-time favorite Jeff tweet

9:35
Dave Cameron: Nice hustle, Pagan.

9:35
Dave Cameron: Based on his reaction I thought the ball was foul by 50 feet.

9:36
BLA: Pagan’s playing with a bad hammy

9:36
Bork: Can you please ms paint Pagan’s route?

9:36
august fagerstrom: it’d just be a dot

9:36
Dave Cameron: Okay, legitimate excuse.

9:36
Cal: Does WPA calculate crappy, but not error-worthy, defense like Pagan there? Is there a stat that does?

9:36
Dave Cameron: UZR and DRS.

9:36
august fagerstrom: splitting BA w/ RISP into two half-season samples is good

9:37
Dave Cameron: But people hate them…

9:37
weezy: I’d love just once to stand in the lefty box and watch a BumBum breaker

9:37
august fagerstrom: looove #BumBum being a thing

9:37
Dave Cameron: Most predictable K ever.

9:37
The Hamburglar: That was an awful at bat

9:38
Aaron: OH MY GOD I FOUND IT ON THE WAYBACK MACHINE
https://web.archive.org/web/20150415035347/http://cliftonphiferlee.com/

9:38
august fagerstrom: what the hell am i looking at

9:38
august fagerstrom: is this a YTMND page

9:38
Jaack: Jon Jay Bruce Chen

9:38
august fagerstrom: George Harrison Ford Explorer

9:39
Dave Cameron: Hey, a high fastball.

9:40
Billy: Hey, anotha one

9:40
Dave Cameron: What was Rivera doing?

9:41
Dave Cameron: I’m just going to stand here in the baseline and see if you field that.

9:41
ChatzMcGee: TOOTBLAN

9:41
august fagerstrom: thats not what you want

9:41
Triple deek: Dang he made it to second, pretty awesome

9:41
Vic Romano: Maybe the tootiest of blans

9:41
Spry: One might say no harm done and tired out the fielders?

9:41
Dave Cameron: Results based analysis!

9:41
Dave Cameron: They’re walking Loney????

9:42
Dave Cameron: What am I missing?

9:42
Sam: I get that the pitcher is next, but walking Loney still feels like a waste of an easy out

9:42
Dave Cameron: Yeah. Take the out, get Thor out next inning too.

9:42
John: Oh God please a pitcher hit, murder even year bullshit with a rusty hammer

9:42
Helloball: Thor can probably hit better than Loney.

9:42
august fagerstrom: Really? I’d think even with Thor being a good-hitting-pitcher that the difference would be large enough to be worth it

9:43
Dave Cameron: Loney’s better, but not enough to give up the out.

9:43
august fagerstrom: great note by Buster

9:43
Walrusman: Pitcher on deck. Think a study on FG indicated pitcher next was only time IBB made sense.

9:43
august fagerstrom: does he have like a buzzer or something where when he has a great fun fact he can just chime in?

9:43
Dave Cameron: That study wasn’t when ace lefty was facing replacement level lefty hitter.

9:44
Dave Cameron: This bar has just gone pro-Giants with some newcomers.

9:44
Perry: What about ace left facing lefty-hitting pitcher with a lower wRC+ than the replacement level lefty hitter?

9:44
august fagerstrom: wellllp

9:45
Dave Cameron: Obviously you’d rather face Thor than Loney if all things are equal. But if you don’t IBB, you get to face both.

9:45
Dave Cameron: It’s not one or the other. It’s two outs or one.

9:45
hurricanexyz: James Loney vs. LHP, 2016: .218 OBP
Madison Bumgarner vs. LHB, 2016: .218 OBP

9:45
august fagerstrom: why do all these numbers keep coming up the same

9:46
Dave Cameron: Single season platoon splits aren’t what you want to use, but yeah, Loney against a great LHP is a terrible matchup.

9:46
Nick: Everyone should get Sling.

9:46
Dave Cameron: I think August is getting tired of his.

9:46
august fagerstrom: as someone with his arm in a sling for the last two weeks and also the next four, I strongly disagree

9:46
Dave Cameron: /zing

9:46
Dave Cameron: Oh man

9:46
Dave Cameron: /jinxed zing

9:46
Compton: Trivia time(is this allowed?): Why are the Mets colors blue and orange?

9:47
august fagerstrom: got me

9:47
Nick: Because seven ate nine?

9:47
The Hamburglar: Dodger blue, giant orange

9:47
august fagerstrom: jesus everybody in the queue knew that

9:47
Spry: Somebody decided they liked the colors

9:47
august fagerstrom: woulda been my answer

9:48
Paul: A baseball team with Purple colors is overdue, right? Esp. since D-Backs abandoned it?

9:48
august fagerstrom: i miss the rockies too

9:49
Adam: what about green?

9:49
Jack: I’m suprised that there is only on team with Green colors

9:49
august fagerstrom: wait, yeah

9:49
august fagerstrom: why isn’t there more green?

9:49
weezy: that breake was insane

9:50
august fagerstrom: I love when syndegaard reminds everyone he throws a curveball too

9:50
august fagerstrom: so easy to forget

9:50
Triple deek: That’s some nasty break at 91

9:50
Nick: WOW

9:50
Spry: Gorgeous

9:50
dan: I know Bum is just guessing up there, but Thor looks unfair right now.

9:50
weezy: then a 91 slider, great

9:50
Bork: BumBum getting angry. It begins.

9:51
august fagerstrom: I really don’t enjoy watching Madison Bumgarner in baseball

9:51
august fagerstrom: play baseball*

9:51
august fagerstrom: Like maybe less so than any other player in the game

9:51
Nick: Bumgarner: “DON’T CALL THAT. DON’T CALL THAT.”

9:51
august fagerstrom: People who are never happy aren’t fun to be around or even watch on TV, it turns out

9:52
Helloball: Dave’s battery died

9:52
Dave Cameron: Not yet, just letting August rant against Bumgarner.

9:53
Dave Cameron: A hit!

9:53
Nick: Way to ruin the mood, Span.

9:53
Joe: Dave do you have a plan to rejoin the chat once you get a charger or will you be leaving us for the night?

9:53
Dave Cameron: I’ll just go home and get attacked by the dog.

9:53
Dave Cameron: Then try to chat with her barking in my face.

9:53
Enzo Amore: Third time through… how long do you guys stick with Thor here?

9:54
Dave Cameron: Probably have Reed warming next inning, but try to get through 7.

9:54
Dave Cameron: Safe this time.

9:54
Alex Reinhart: that was remarkably close for such a huge jump

9:54
Evan: Span had a running lead…

9:54
august fagerstrom: Crazy how close that was

9:55
Jaack: That was closer than last time.

9:56
Spry: Has anyone ever recorded a routine play at a sporting event and actually rewatched it?

9:56
august fagerstrom: I ask myself this at concerts all the time

9:56
august fagerstrom: *Nobody* rewatches those videos

9:56
august fagerstrom: they are completely pointless and so damn frustrating

9:56
weezy: not worth the high odds of a successful steal of third, right?

9:56
Dave Cameron: Right.

9:56
Dave Cameron: Ball not carrying tonight.

9:56
Tyler: nice catch

9:56
Triple deek: Wow great play

9:57
Adam: WHOA

9:57
ChatzMcGee: What a catch.

9:57
Spry: Beautiful. Hope he’s Ok

9:57
Chuckb: Granderson!

9:57
august fagerstrom: welp

9:57
The Hamburglar: Its made infinitely more remarkable that Granderson was the one who made it

9:57
august fagerstrom: about Granderson’s ability in center…

9:59
Aadik: Wow. Giants fan, but wow. What a catch. I was convinced that was gone.

10:00
Dave Cameron: In July, it probably is.

10:00
Skore: Why is it hard for people to believe in volatility on defense? Just cause Granderson sucks in center doesn’t mean he can’t make a great play once in a while, in the same way that backup catchers have hit home runs in the major leagues while being awful hitters

10:00
august fagerstrom: I never understand this

10:01
august fagerstrom: Hate to be *that guy* and it’s not like I played at any level beyond HS, but whenever I hear that argument I assume that person never played baseball. My defense absolutely slumped

10:01
august fagerstrom: and “got hot”

10:01
S: Is anyone a bigger whiner than Bumgarner?

10:01
Dave Cameron: Paul O’Neill

10:01
august fagerstrom: sweet replay

10:02
august fagerstrom: Bumgarner ruins everything

10:02
AJ: Don’t understand why people hate passion he just wants to win what’s wrong with that?

10:02
Dave Cameron: You can be passionate without being a dick.

10:02
august fagerstrom: guys in the bullpen engaging with and cheering on the fans behind them! I love it

10:02
BumBum: View 2 new Tweets
Daren Willman ?@darenw 1m1 minute ago
The batted ball Brandon Belt hit was 105.9 MPH at a 25 degree launch angle… Similar batted balls are a HR 91% of the time.

10:03
Dave Cameron: Yeah. Seems like ball really not going anywhere.

10:03
Bork: BumBum thinks he can have passion, but no one else can.

10:03
CarrotJuice: Bumgarner should aspire to be more like Lackey: a dick, but an amusing dick.

10:03
Nick: Shouting randomly at people and holding people to rules you never told them about is being a dick.

10:03
august fagerstrom: These three tweets perfectly encapsulate my feelings toward Bumgarner

10:03
august fagerstrom: Also, those are totally not tweets.

10:03
august fagerstrom: Jesus.

10:04
Alex Reinhart:

10:04
august fagerstrom: looove this gif

10:04
august fagerstrom: what’s the grade on that Asdrubal walk bat flip?

10:04
august fagerstrom: strong 70

10:04
august fagerstrom: 70+

10:05
Dave Cameron: High fastball to Yo!

10:05
Dave Cameron: How surprising.

10:05
Dave Cameron: Another one.

10:05
Dave Cameron: Feels like Yo should just not swing this whole AB.

10:05
hurricanexyz: his bat flip on his walk-off home run a couple weeks ago was, I know you said not to give out too many 80-grades but it felt 80-grade

10:05
Dave Cameron: Odds he gets a strike are very low.

10:05
august fagerstrom: was absolutely 80

10:06
Dave Cameron: So he takes a strike…

10:06
ChatzMcGee: Nice swing.

10:06
Jack: I can’t imagine how a player could mess up a bat flip. As long as its flipped it seems hard for it to be bad

10:06
august fagerstrom: I can’t bat flip

10:06
Dave Cameron: That was the “ah man I shouldn’t be doing this” swing

10:07
august fagerstrom: I tried in softball all year whenever I got a hold of one and I could never fire off a good one

10:07
Dave Cameron: Well that’s a fun strike for Bumgarner.

10:07
Dave Cameron: If he gets that call regularly, the Mets are hosed.

10:07
august fagerstrom: wow

10:07
august fagerstrom: no kidding

10:08
Dave Cameron: Another middle-middle one.

10:08
Dave Cameron: So many mistakes gotten away with.

10:09
Dave Cameron: New race; does the bartender bring me my check before my battery (18%) dies?

10:09
Netflix and Rich Hill: Bumgarner near the top of spin rates for 4-seam?

10:09
august fagerstrom: nope

10:09
august fagerstrom: just above average

10:09
Dave Cameron: That’s quite the link.

10:09
august fagerstrom: sure is

10:09
Tim : have a longer url i dare you

10:09
Belated to be elated : Who gets away with most middle middle in baseball?

10:09
august fagerstrom: Kershaw

10:09
august fagerstrom: Sam Miller wrote an article or five about this earlier this year

10:10
Dan: I wish someone would do a video HOW TO for Baseball Savant

10:10
Dave Cameron: Good idea for an offseason post.

10:10
Netflix and Rich Hill: wow august, you are resourceful and fast.

10:10
Dave Cameron: That’s what August’s BDSM people say.

10:10
Dave Cameron: (/zing?)

10:10
august fagerstrom: thanks, definitely not me on another account

10:10
august fagerstrom: LOG OFF DAVE

10:10
august fagerstrom: LOG OF

10:10
august fagerstrom: YOUR BATTERY IS DEAD

10:10
august fagerstrom: GO HOME

10:10
august fagerstrom: I’LL TAKE IT FROM HERE

10:10
Dave Cameron: I think my employee just fired me.

10:11
Bork: WELCOME BACK TO THE ROAST OF AUGUST FAGERSTROM

10:11
CarrotJuice: That’s more creepy than zingy

10:11
Nick: Dave is drunk, go home?

10:11
Ned Ghost: Dave Cameron already resigned once this year!

10:11
Mike Oxlong: August’s favorite stat is WHIP?

10:11
august fagerstrom: holy shit

10:11
august fagerstrom: lol at that Posey swing

10:12
Dave Cameron: I like that these chats show up in google search results. Good luck future August girlfriends.

10:12
Skore: Well that was an awful call

10:12
august fagerstrom: yeah, this is definitely what would ruin it for me

10:12
archer: feel like ump is struggling a bit

10:12
Nick: Wow, that was a Maddux corner.

10:13
BumBum: Keywords include: BDSM and Bumbum. Godspeed August.

10:13
Santiago: Remember earlier tonight when someone asked what the odds of the starters giving up 6 or less hits combined were?

10:13
Dave Cameron: Never bet on baseball.

10:13
Dave Cameron: — Not Pete Rose

10:14
Dave Cameron: 89 change down and away in the 7th.

10:14
Dave Cameron: Lol.

10:14
Paul: Dave, you guessed Syndergaard’s pitch limit would be 110-115. Assuming that’s what you think the Mets will do, would you do it differently?

10:14
Dave Cameron: I’d probably be going with Reed next inning.

10:15
The Hamburglar: He doesnt seem to be getting some of the same calls Bumgarner gets

10:15
Dave Cameron: He got plenty of calls earlier.

10:15
Dave Cameron: The zone has been inconsistently bad, but not in either direction.

10:16
Sean: Blevins!!

10:16
dan: Don’t you want Reed at least throwing right now anyways?

10:16
Dave Cameron: Yeah, at this point, I don’t know why you don’t just get two guys warm.

10:16
Dave Cameron: You’re going to use them.

10:17
Joe: Syndegaard’a last batter no matter what?

10:17
Dave Cameron: I think so.

10:17
weezy: wow this game has slowed to a crawl

10:18
august fagerstrom: The best way to guarantee a slow second half of a game is to mention the quick pace of the first half of the game

10:18
august fagerstrom: The only superstition I believe in

10:18
august fagerstrom: Too much time spent in press boxes

10:18
Jart: “I like this.” – Baseball Commetator

10:18
Jaack: No, the best way to slow the second half of a game is to put Jonathan Papelbon in.

10:18
Dave Cameron: I would like to acquaint you with Joaquin Benoit.

10:19
august fagerstrom: I’m about to start booing Syndegaard

10:19
Mr. Woods: Pedro Baez is the worst.

10:19
Well, Actually…: Pedro Baez says hello

10:19
Alex Reinhart: Pedro Baez

10:20
august fagerstrom: did his helmet just fall off

10:20
august fagerstrom: what was that play

10:20
Dave Cameron: Loney seemed like he could have gotten that?

10:20
Dave Cameron: Obviously not, or he would have, but it looked close-ish.

10:20
august fagerstrom: that was all so weird

10:20
Bork: Lemme just lightly toss that to 1st

10:20
britishcub: very casual d from loney to my eyes

10:20
Defense Man: Loney at lease wave your glove at it man

10:21
august fagerstrom: things about that play, ranked:

1. Helmet falling off on swing
2. Loney no effort
3. Thor stretch
4. Rivera soft toss

10:21
Asabin: Heart stops

10:21
Netflix and Rich Hill: PHEW!

10:21
august fagerstrom: JESUS you guys were not kidding about Pedro Baez

10:22
BumBum: That was about as BABIPy as it gets

10:22
august fagerstrom: fuck that

10:22
Jon: Back to back extra inning wild card games anyone?

10:22
Adam: Loney is in there for his bat

10:22
Nick: Whenever a ball goes off the pitcher’s glove in a playoff game I get heart palpitations.

10:22
august fagerstrom: just like they all say

10:22
Alex Reinhart: The Dodgers told Pedro Baez he needed to slow the game down. Several weeks later they discovered he thought they meant it literally.

10:23
John: Pedro Baez literally said the reason he is so slow is because dodger coaches told him to “slow the game down”

10:23
august fagerstrom: this is amazing

10:23
C. Montgomery Burns: This going to extras? How is the Mets bullpen? I know Giants has been shaky…

10:23
Dave Cameron: Mets bullpen is underrated.

10:24
Grady little: 29 out of 30 were relievers… Coincidence?

10:24
Dave Cameron: No. Pace slows way down in high leverage situations .

10:24
Dave Cameron: See this with SPs too.

10:25
Bartholomew Cologne: Is Piazza drinking port? Fancy guy

10:25
Mike: Mike Piazza drinks red wine…

10:25
Spencer: Piazza drinking wine lololololololol

10:25
Joe: Is that because runners on base?

10:26
Dave Cameron: Runners on base means more signs, more lookovers, more everything slow.

10:26
Tim : Piazza and Cistuilli got a lot to talk about

10:26
Dave Cameron: Reed warming.

10:26
BumBum: Inside Edge ?@InsideEdgeScout 1m1 minute ago
Noah Syndergaard threw 42 pitches 98+ mph tonight. That’s more than the Phillies (41) and Indians (35) threw all year. #Thor

10:27
Dave Cameron: I don’t think ’04 Bonds could hit one out to CF tonight.

10:28
Dave Cameron: Another middle-middle fastball, fouled off.

10:28
Dave Cameron: Bumgarner must be crazy deceptive.

10:28
Dave Cameron: Because he has missed his spots a lot tonight.

10:29
britishcub: or the mets suck at hitting dave?

10:29
Dave Cameron: Also possible.

10:29
Mets Hitters: Guys I think he might be throwing high

10:29
august fagerstrom: The Mets have like a 14-man bench and Eric Campbell is the first pinch hitter

10:29
Sonny: little bit of A little bit of B

10:30
Dave Cameron: Okay, off to race home. This is all August for the next ~10 minutes.

10:30
Dave Cameron: Try not to do anything interesting, teams.

10:30
Jack: Do we have any way to quantify deception?

10:31
10:31
august fagerstrom: Taking fastballs for called strikes seems to infer some deception, in my mind

10:31
august fagerstrom: Could also just be good command on the edges though

10:32
Oden: Carrasco, Salazar, Allen, and Miller, and only 35 at 98+?!?!?

10:32
august fagerstrom: Surprised me too. Apparently everyone just throws 95-97

10:32
Bork: Okay August boss is gone lets talk about the Cavs

10:32
Nick: *pulls out whip and chains*

10:32
The Hamburglar: Dave comes home to a 6-5 Mets lead

10:33
Mattingly’s Sideburns: Britton is going to pitch while Dave is gone.

10:33
APODionysus: Man that was a sweet inside the park homer!

10:33
joseph: Dave’s gone, everyone spam BDSM things! For August!

10:33
BigBadVlad: Get Cistulli to pinch blog

10:33
august fagerstrom: aaaand Bumgarner is going to hit for himself

10:33
Crusty Juggler: Prediction: August’s ask man bun becomes unruly and causes him to wilt under the pressure.

10:33
august fagerstrom: cut it in June!

10:33
august fagerstrom: when I dislocated my shoulder

10:33
august fagerstrom: solely because I couldn’t put it up in a bun anymore

10:34
Spencer: taking fastballs for strikes down the middle?

10:34
dan: Would middle-middle BAA or OPS against be a good sign of deception?

10:34
august fagerstrom: would prefer the former

10:34
weezy: how’d you dislocate your shoulder?

10:35
august fagerstrom: Softball. Was playing third and jumped for a throw from catcher, dislocated at the apex of my reach

10:35
august fagerstrom: I’d dislocated it two years prior playing volleyball so it was already weak

10:35
asabin: Do you disagree with Bumgarner hitting?

10:35
august fagerstrom: Probably wanted to bunt anyway

10:36
august fagerstrom: And Bochy I’m sure is nervous of his pen

10:36
august fagerstrom: Found something out earlier today though:

10:37
august fagerstrom: last few years, Bumgarner’s suffered one of the largest 3rd time through the order penalties

10:37
august fagerstrom: contrary to popular belief

10:37
august fagerstrom: then again, it was smaller earlier in his career, so who knows, but still interesting given his reputation

10:37
Brian: Which FG employee is most capable of being an announcer for one of these games?

10:38
august fagerstrom: not sure if “capable” is the right word but I’d 100% nominate Carson

10:38
Jack: Did you catch it?

10:38
august fagerstrom: I did, and made the tag

10:38
august fagerstrom: and then writhed on the ground and swore loudly for a few minutes with small children nearby

10:39
Evan: An actual play or throwing around after a strikeout?

10:39
august fagerstrom: Actual play. Runner thought about going second-to-home on single, our CF threw home, runner turned and came back to third, catcher threw high to me at 3B

10:39
august fagerstrom: Pretty sure it was the highest Ive ever jumped

10:39
Pinstripe Wizard: Your softball league is apparently taken way more seriously than most I’ve been in.

10:39
august fagerstrom: it was the playoffs

10:40
ShinyThing: WHAT IS IT WITH THE LONG URLS

10:40
niko: HOLY LINKS LENGTH

10:40
Vic Romano: Please, make your links bigger

10:40
BumBum: The king of all URLs

10:40
anonymous: HAIL AUGUST: LORD OF MEGALINKS

10:40
Zock jr: Wow way to whip your huge URL. This is a family chat, August.

10:40
hurricanexyz: didn’t someone dare August to come up with a longer link earlier in this thread? challenge accepted, evidently!

10:40
Bartholomew Cologne: Like that announcers implicitly talk about framing now

10:41
august fagerstrom: Yep

10:41
august fagerstrom: Most everything Jessica Mendoza says is insightful too

10:41
august fagerstrom: Feels like the zone expanded all night and then suddenly shrank?

10:41
august fagerstrom: And wow Rivera

10:42
august fagerstrom: that probably should have been a strike, right?

10:42
august fagerstrom: seems like a future Jeff Sullivan article

10:43
hurricanexyz: it was right down the middle (the passed ball, that is)

10:43
august fagerstrom: Rivera: negative blocker http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1937686

10:43
Moooooooookie: Dave couldn’t have picked a worse time to leave

10:43
august fagerstrom: sucker

10:44
august fagerstrom: boy oh boy

10:44
august fagerstrom: that was fun

10:45
Ben: Here is a thing I’m interested in- what’s the winning percentage of the team that “wins” the highest leverage AB of the game?

10:45
august fagerstrom: boy do I love this idea

10:46
Bork: REED SHOWED EMOTION. GET EM BUMBUM

10:46
Well-Beered Englishman: Imagine a broadcast booth of Cistulli, Dayn Perry, and Harold Reynolds

10:46
Sonny: was that a ‘catch the fucking ball’ from Reed?

10:46
august fagerstrom: Buster said he was talking to Winters

10:46
Fletch: Reed was jawing at the umpire there..I don’t blame him

10:46
Fletch: Harold would off himself within ~30 minutes

10:47
august fagerstrom: calling Campbell dinger

10:48
Dave Cameron: So what did I miss?

10:48
august fagerstrom: an even longer link than the first one I posted

10:48
Dave Cameron: Not possible.

10:48
august fagerstrom: and Eric Campbell is the Mets’s first pinch hitter off the bench

10:49
august fagerstrom: oh and the highest leverage situation of the game

10:49
august fagerstrom: bases loaded

10:49
Guest: The Mets PH has a worse batting line than their SP

10:49
Bork: oh hey dave august taught us a lot of new BDSM stuff

10:49
august fagerstrom: and a future Jeff Sullivan article when Rivera let a fastball middle-middle go to the backstop and get called a ball

10:49
august fagerstrom: and what Bork said

10:49
Dave Cameron: That sounds fun.

10:49
Dave Cameron: The called ball, not the BDSM.

10:49
august fagerstrom: you sure about that

10:49
jon: 80 grade skill: bumgarner snot rocket blowing

10:50
Bartholomew Cologne: Campbell followed by Ty Kelly. Lol.

10:50
JoshP: @august: pretty sure that Campbell has a .400+ OBP as a PH

10:50
Dave Cameron: Injuries, man.

10:50
august fagerstrom: is this in 5 at bats

10:50
august fagerstrom: that was not a good pitch

10:50
Elbo: If the Mets had a RH who could hit he would have been in the lineup.

10:50
Dock Ellis: Who the duck is Ty Kelly?

10:51
Dave Cameron: Carson special. High walk/no power AAAA guy.

10:51
Ned Ghost: Ty Kelly is a Beanie Baby.

10:51
Matt: I thought Ty’s weren’t allowed in baseball.

10:51
august fagerstrom: not after how the last one turned out

10:52
Tim : Ty Kelly looks like a computer programmer, not a major league baseball player.

10:52
Tim : Ty from IT

10:52
BumBum: Bumgarner celebrating! Go yell at him BumBum!

10:52
Daniel norris’ van: Emotion

10:52
5 Run Homer: BUMGARNER SHOWED EMOTION

10:53
niko: 103 pitches for Bumgarner. Probably won’t come up to bat in the top of the 9th, think he comes out to pitch again?

10:53
Dave Cameron: Yes. I would bet he’s going 120+.

10:55
Dock Ellis: August, where’s E at? We need players named Ty who used to play in the MLB. All I can think of is Ty Wiggingham, Ty Cobb.

10:55
august fagerstrom: yeah Cobb is the one I was referring to

10:55
august fagerstrom: forgot about Wigginton

10:55
Tyler: that has to be one of the easiest come backers all-time.

10:55
august fagerstrom: yeah that was so weird

10:55
august fagerstrom: he had time to get under it

10:55
Dave Cameron: So the beeping in that Echo commercial just freaked my dog out.

10:55
Dave Cameron: She got so scared she ran upstairs.

10:55
Dave Cameron: Thanks, Amazon!

10:55
august fagerstrom: I wait in silence during the commerials

10:56
APODionysus: Look at this. Using your closer in the 9th of a tie game! Revolutionary

10:57
Dave Cameron: Home team.

10:57
august fagerstrom: Little different being the home team

10:57
august fagerstrom: but still

10:57
Dave Cameron: — Buck Showalter.

10:57
Nick: I want to say that I love having this outlet to watching amazing playoff baseball together with you guys. Everyone I know in real life hates baseball and I don’t really dig sports bars.

10:57
august fagerstrom: <3

10:57
august fagerstrom: The vindication of Showalter.

10:57
Nick: That looked like it might be caught off the bat.

10:58
Buck Showalter: See? closer in a non-save situtation. Not going well

10:58
Johnny: oh god here comes the even year magic

10:58
Matt: Bad. Zone.

10:58
ticohans: Where was that pitch?!

10:58
archer: this strikezone has become a joke

10:58
ChatzMcGee: Another strike taken away by Rivera.

10:58
johnny5alive: where are these pitches

10:59
Matt: rivera stabbing at these low strikes is killing the mets!

10:59
Nick: Could this game bring framing into the national discussion?

10:59
Dave Cameron: I think it already is.

11:00
august fagerstrom: Rivera one of baseball’s best framers this year: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1921605

11:01
Ned Ghost: Maybe this is why BumBum has been throwing it down the middle

11:02
Vic Romano: That was like a 6 strike AB.

11:02
KK: Huuuuge K.

11:02
APODionysus: That’s a big K. Helluva journey to get there

11:03
Bartholomew Cologne: Dave, linguists have said that periods in texts make you look like a “monster.” At least according to NY Magazine

11:03
august fagerstrom: co-sign

11:04
Eric Y: Are we all just going to gloss over bunting in that situation?

11:04
Dave Cameron: Nope!

11:04
Ben: #neverbunt

11:04
Dave Cameron: You should bunt sometimes.

11:04
Dave Cameron: But not that often.

11:04
Badison Mumgarner: Who has the bigger postseason legend at this point: Bumgarner or Ortiz?

11:04
august fagerstrom: Beltran

11:05
Chuckb: I didn’t like the 2-0 or 3-1 bunt. I didn’t even really like a bunt at all with a lefty hitter.

11:05
Matt: Freese

11:05
Ben: bigger postseason legend……. Dave Roberts

11:06
august fagerstrom: honestly the biggest postseason legend is probably Buckner

11:06
august fagerstrom: just

11:06
Adam: pinch hit for madbum if it comes to him?

11:06
august fagerstrom: y’know

11:06
Dave Cameron: Yes

11:07
Paul: This decision has to be a blog tomorrow, right?

11:07
Dave Cameron: Or later tonight!

11:08
Stewie: Gillespie with a couple cup adjustments. All-time leader in the category has to be Jim Thome.

11:08
august fagerstrom: wow great 80 tool

11:08
august fagerstrom: Thome cup adjustment

11:09
AJ: CRUSHED!!!!

11:09
Matt: Wow

11:09
Bartholomew Cologne: What??

11:09
august fagerstrom: oh i guess a home run is coming

11:09
Guest: Good night

11:09
BumBum: Ballgame

11:09
august fagerstrom: there it is

11:09
joe: even year

11:09
Chuckb: Now you don’t pinch hit

11:09
joseph: Guess BumBum is hitting after all

11:09
Nick: God, not the Giants again.

11:09
august fagerstrom: did that ball not even look like it was hit that well or was it just me

11:09
Joe: Baseball is awesome. That is all.

11:09
august fagerstrom: felt like Bruce/Bumgarner/others all made better contacts

11:09
Nick: it didn’t look hard hit, no.

11:09
Dave Cameron: That ball carried better than any other one tonight.

11:10
Buck: See! This is why you dont bring your closer in to a tie game!

11:11
Daniel norris’ van: When sinker ballers throw it belt high

11:11
Jack: This stadium is dead silent

11:12
Paul: Would Dave Cameron be sending Bumgarner back out at this point or bringing in Romo/Smith/Casilla/Strickland?

11:12
Dave Cameron: I’d probably stick with Bumgarner, with Romo/Smith warming.

11:12
Dave Cameron: 3 run lead, should be able to hold it fairly easily, so give Bumgarner chance for CG.

11:14
Vic Romano: Update on the O/U 6 hits by BumBum and Thor combined — They are currently at exactly 6.

11:14
Jaack: Madison Bumgarner and Conor Gillaspie have a combined .945 WPA

11:15
Walrusman: Who would have been the bigger underdog vs the cubs?

11:15
asabin: How do you continue to pitch if you’re Familia?

11:15
Dave Cameron: Mets.

11:15
august fagerstrom: better

11:15
Dave Cameron: Their roster is decimated.

11:16
Vic Romano: I was pulling for the Mets for precisely that reason. As a Cub fan, I’ve got no interest in seeing Cueto and BumBum 3 times.

11:16
JoshP: So as a Mets fan, do I get upset about the even year bullshit, or just appreciate that this was a great game from start to familia?

11:16
Dave Cameron: Given all the injuries, probably just be happy you got a meaningful game in October.

11:17
Bob: Dave, does Bumgarner start to look like an HOF candidate given the postseason multiplier you discussed on the podcast?

11:17
Dave Cameron: The bar for SPs is so high right now.

11:17
Dave Cameron: If Mussina and Schilling can’t get in, I’m not comfortable assuming writers will put anyone in.

11:19
Ty wiggington: Can someone tell me how the Mets got to the playoffs in the first place with this anemic lineup and a decimated rotation?

11:19
Dave Cameron: The NL has three good teams.

11:19
Dave Cameron: But five postseason spots.

11:19
Henry: Game 2 is of the NLDS is Saturday (three days rest) Game 5 is Thursday (5 days later), any chance Bum goes twice next series?

11:20
Dave Cameron: Would bet they’ll lean that way.

11:20
joseph: August when’s your next BDSM workshop / Playoff chat?

11:20
august fagerstrom: can’t answer either of these questions for very different reasons

11:21
Uncle Jimbo: And Schilling also had post season drama and he does not seem to get much credit for that.

11:21
august fagerstrom: Schilling’s lack of Hall of Fame love is confounding

11:21
Dave Cameron: Schilling not being in is so insane.

11:21
ShinyThing: BumBum does it again

11:21
august fagerstrom: Those guys are victims of crowded ballots though, right?

11:21
august fagerstrom: I bet Bum’s playoff legacy carries him in if he’s even close

11:22
Dave Cameron: Congrats to the Giants.

11:22
Dave Cameron: And Madison Bumgarner, who is really something.

11:22
august fagerstrom: thanks for chatting everyone! always fun.

11:24
Dave Cameron: Indeed. Thanks for hanging out everyone.

11:24
Dave Cameron: We’ll see you again later this postseason!

11:25
Dave Cameron: And as a representative of everyone outside of the bay area, let’s go Cubs!





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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Bipmember
7 years ago

Somehow, somehow at this point I even kind of expect the Giants to win in the playoffs and the Dodgers to lose, but what really drives the icepick through my fan heart is when Bumgarner continues to dominate the playoffs, even though every FIP-indicator says he shouldn’t be, and Kershaw continues to be mediocre even though every FIP-indicator says he is dominating. I should not care about the reputations of these specific individuals so much. That is all. Carry on.

YKnotDisco
7 years ago
Reply to  Bip

Kershaw has allowed more BB & HR than Bumgarner has in almost 30 less innings. IMO Bumgarner has pitched better. Also, IMO Kershaw is a better pitcher.

YKnotDisco
7 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

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