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RosterResource Chat: November 12, 2026

There are reports that a lot of free agents are being offered 1 year deals because of the uncertainty, but there are also reports that teams aren’t interested in trading for guys with 1 year remaining because of the uncertainty. How does this make sense?

Big difference in risk here. If you're trading prospects with 6+ years of club control for a rental, there's a chance that there's no season (or a significantly shortened one) and you gave up prospects for a player who barely played for you, if at all. Signing a player only costs money, money that the player will never get (and that you won't have to pay) if there's no season, and players would only get the prorated portion of their agreed-to salary if the season has, say, 81 games.

Odds that each of Trevor Story and Masataka Yoshida are on Boston’s Opening Day roster? Is it possible to trade them to save a little bit of money by attaching a prospect, or are they just going to get cut if it comes down to that?

I don't think they'll cut either. Worst-case, they'll take on a big % of salary remaining. Both have enough value to trade. How much another team takes on would be the question. Would depend on return and, of course, any prospects attached.

Also, I think the Red Sox believe Franklin Arias will be ready in 2027. But can he be the starting SS on Opening Day? Not sure they want to do that with no backup plan, although their depth then becomes important. Do they trust Monasterio/Sogard to hold it down until Arias is ready to step in? Probably. But I think they value Story's veteran presence. They won't just give him away for nothing.

I think Duran is more likely to be traded since he's not far removed from being really good for 3 consecutive seasons. Even then, Yoshida might not have a big enough role to stick around. He can hit. But the Red Sox treat him as un-playable in the OF so not sure why another team would think otherwise.

Ketel Marte for Anthony Santander (plus other valauble assets from TOR, say a top pitching prospect) – is that a potential fit?

Both teams shed a problematic player. Both deals have complicated deferral structures, too, which may make it easier to accomodate a swap.

I don't really see the value in this from the Diamondbacks' end unless they're really getting a ton back from Toronto. I don't think you can count of Santander for much of anything health or production wise and while Marte does have a lot of contract left, his contract isn't actually a bad value even if 2026 Marte is just who he is now. Santander's contract is underwater. I'd think a Marte-to-Toronto trade is very possible but would be much more straightforward than foisting Santander on anyone.

What are your thoughts on Buster Posey’s comments hinting that they are only planning to sign 1 starting pitcher? Seems very light.

Didn't see the quote so I have no context, but I'd assume he's talking one impact addition to go along with Webb and Roupp. Adding a SP4 from the free agent group at a reasonable rate should also be on the priority list and I think they have a decent group of No. 5 candidates (Houser, Wilkinson, Molina, Marte, Whitman). Then you have Birdsong possible back in the 2nd half and Jackson Flora could force his way to the majors in 2027.

But, at least on paper at this moment, you'd probably have a good argument that they should be looking to add 2 impact starters.

Lots of Cashman's comments yesterday hinted at minor changes (outside of the pen maybe), suggesting they could roll with Volpe, McM, Stanton, and Ali Sanchez again. Is this just GM speak to not create a desperation tax (we can call it the Bubba Crosby rule that Cashman himself used)?

I only thought he was really definitive about Stanton, who Cashman said in no uncertain terms is going to be with the team in spring training (whenever it is) and that they expect production from him. The other comments I saw were more leaving the door open to possibilities that Volpe (starting 2B), McMahon (starting 3B) and Sánchez (backup C) would all have roles on the team. I think that's basically the most you can say as a POBO/GM, you're not going to get up there and say "yeah I don't think this guy has a future with us" when he's on the 40-man and projected active roster right now. Sánchez ending up with a spot would be especially surprising to me.

Baltimore has returning Westburg, disappointing Holliday, disappointing Mayo, surprisingly decent Alexander, and surprisingly decent CES for like 2.5 lineup spots (assuming Basallo gets a bunch of DH time). All too good to bury at the end of the bench, nothing left to do in AAA, and none with real trade value. All but Holliday are right-handed. How do you figure that shakes out?

At this point, they're relying on Gunnar Henderson bouncing back, Jordan Westburg returning to his pre-injury form, and a lot of young guys taking a big step forward. Even if Alonso continues to be productive, I think they probably need to add one more impact bat. They need someone who is reliable enough that they can be fine with just some combination of those things happening. Because not all the young guys will step up. The good version of CES might not show up. Tyler O'Neill might never be healthy/productive.

Coby Mayo absolutely crushes LHP so I think they're in a good spot there as long as they don't need him to be an everyday guy. Blaze Alexander has been really good offensively the past 2 seasons and can play just about every position. Maybe he can be even better if locked in at one spot. I think they can probably shake things up a bit — trading someone like Holliday or Cowser? — but having a solid rotation/bullpen is going to be the priority.

Is Chandler Simpson untradeable? It seems like he'd be a great fit for the Mariners who need more speed, more defense, a left fielder, and players who get on base.

I think the Rays have one untradeable player, and that's Junior Caminero. But I don't think the timing for a Simpson trade is quite right, without a clear heir apparent with Jacob Melton having an injury-ravaged 2026 and not likely to be stepping in early on in 2027. But I could definitely see it get more and more into consideration with Melton in Triple-A, Theo Gillen probably starting in Double-A, and Brendan Summerhill behind Gillen. That's a lot of LHH OF to think about and Simpson is a really fun player but if he loses a step a lot of that value goes away really quickly.

The over/under for games played in 2027? I will go with 100

I'll go with over/under 144 and go with the Over. I'm optimistic compared to most people but the lockout is just an obvious move for the owners. They have so much leverage in these negotiations and they're going to use it. Players only have a limited window to monetize their talent. Owners think they're gonna live until 100 years old or longer and never stop making money. No pressure for them. I do believe they'll take it further than 5 years ago, but baseball is in a great place and they won't want to lose more than a handful of games. My guess would be mid-to-late April start and 154 games after re-scheduling.

I'm going to set it at 120 but still take the over. A lot of the same reasoning Jason gives, and I'd also add that if owners are so concerned with franchise values growing at a slower rate than other sports… you probably don't want to tank an entire season or anywhere near it, because that'll certainly kill value growth.

What do you think the Cubs wind up doing to fill out their rotation? I feel like Peterson is a no-brainer since he’ll probably be cheap for a 1-year deal and he was mostly fine as a back-end guy. On paper Holmes seems like a fit, but he didn’t impress. Does Matt Shaw have any trade value left? It feels like there’s a fit with NYY to trade for one of their young starters, and then see if you can bring back Happ for cheap or splurge on Suzuki and hope for the best.

I don't think I've seen a single free agent prediction that thinks Peterson is going anywhere but back to the Cubs, he's a great fit there with all the ground balls and I think he has more upside (and should be cheaper) than Clay Holmes since he's much younger. I saw some pontificating that they could be a fit for Logan Gilbert as a trade-and-extend candidate (since there's so much risk in trading for a rental, as I talked about earlier), and Shaw would be as good a fit for the Mariners as Gilbert is for the Cubs, a righty super utility complement to Brendan Donovan. All the talk with the Cubs has (rightfully) been on pitching but losing Suzuki, Happ, Conforto, and Kelly to free agency leaves big shoes to fill, too, and it'll be interesting to see how they go about it.

Do you think the Blue Jays being interested in Adames has legs?

Sure, it's possible. Not straight up, though. Adames is due an est. 5-yr, $140MM and Gimenez is something like 3-yr, $70MM. Giants might have to eat some salary and additional players would likely be part of a deal, but I can see the reasoning for both sides. Giants upgrade defense and could save $. Jays add some power, vibes, and bounce-back potential.

Important part of this would be each team's SS prospects. JoJo Parker is likely the Jays' starting SS in 2028 so they'd likely move Adames to 2B/3B for the last 4 years of his contract. So his SS defense is not going to hold things up. If they think he'd be a productive bat with adequate defense at 2B or 3B, he's a fit.

Giants have 4 great/really good SS prospects (Jhony Level, Gavin Kilen, Josuar Gonzalez, Luis Hernandez), although Gimenez is only under contract for 3 more seasons and can also play 2B. So might not be as much of a factor, especially if the Giants can save money.

As to the leverage point, isnt there a cutoff date where the broadcasting deals get tolled for an additional year? Thats a huge leverage spot for the union.

Right. If at least 60 games are missed, all the deals get punted back a year, which delays Manfred's plan to revamp all the TV deals, line them all up, etc. The flip side is that if an entire season is missed the league still gets paid for 2027 but then they have to give away all of 2029 for free. Evan Drellich wrote about it in The Athletic a few months back: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7627090/2026/09/25/mlb-lock…

West Sacramento Tommy White over under Plate Appearances?

Even before they make any offseason additions, I have him with 120 PA … https://www.fangraphs.com/projections/playing-time/teams/ath…

So maybe 100 PA would be my over/under. He wasn't very productive in 2026. As long as Nick Kurtz is healthy, there won't be many opportunities at 1B. Same with Brent Rooker at DH. I think he was fine at 3B, but not sure he's going to get an extended look there.

If you were the yankees or mets, would you be interested in alec bohm

Yes, but only for a pretty limited, Paul Goldschmidt-like role where he's only facing lefties and certain righties, platooning with Garcia or McMahon in the Bronx or Jared Young in Queens. But if I'm Bohm, I don't see a reason to sign such a deal. It's a weak free agent market and he should have no problem getting a decent-size deal (one year or two years with an opt out, perhaps, for $10M-$12M a year) to start. We've only seen those two teams connected to him so far but plenty of others make a lot more sense. The Pirates and Cardinals both come to mind there.

Where's your wRC+ cutoff where a hitter goes from "you can contend with this guy batting 8th or 9th" to "he is a black hole who seriously limits your offense"? I say it's 83.

Really depends on position and how good they are defensively. Most extreme example is Patrick Bailey. He had a 70 wRC+ in 2025 and that was probably just good enough for the Giants to pencil him as their everyday guy in 2026. He was at 13 wRC+ when they traded him but I'm guessing that anything under 60 and he would've lost playing time.

Ke'Bryan Hayes is another extreme example. With his elite defense, I think the Pirates or Reds could've lived with an 85-90 wRC+. But he's not even close to that, which is why he's probably not a starting 3B anymore.

For someone who is just an average defender (or worse), I think anything 100 wRC+ and their job is on the line.

Skubal landing spot: you picking the Dodgers or the field?

Definitely the field, and specifically the Mets. I'm seeing too much cold water poured on the idea that the Dodgers are going to be super in on him (they don't want to go long-term, for example) and too much Mets chatter and articles more or less saying that everyone is focused on the Mets there to see him end up anywhere else at this point. But, of course, the meetings he's taking with teams next week could change things, and there are always mystery teams!

How is it possible to project IP for guys like Glasnow and Snell?

Projecting is easy. Predicting is impossible because you have no idea when either is finally going to stay healthy. Thus, a lot of people will disagree with a “projection” because they’re thinking of it as a “prediction”.

With those two specifically, they’re getting a lower % just based on injury history. And then you consider that the Dodgers will be super cautious with them in order to have them ready for the playoffs. That’s specific to the Dodgers because of their division. So maybe a bit lower again because of that factor.

Even after considering that, they’re both healthy, not old, and likely coming into camp with no limitations. So my current projections of 150 IP (Snell) and 140 IP (Glasnow) are already assuming that they’re going to get hurt and miss close to 2 months with a yet-to-happen injury. I do think of these as reasonable over/under totals, based on several factors that could change before Opening Day.

The chatter on the Red Sox blogs is that they are all-in on Suzuki which would only add to the mess that is the team's outfield. I assume Rafaela is locked in and Anthony, despite not showing much yet, is penciled in for LF. Abreu has taken home 3 Gold Gloves while playing the toughest RF in baseball, and has 25 HR power, but looks like the odd man out. I am thinking that he might be able to pry Hancock, Woo or Kirby from the Mariners.

I haven't seen it specifically framed as all-in and more just interest, but anyway I don't think it'd be very hard to squeeze him in. Duran is as good as gone and Suzuki and Anthony could just rotate DH and LF without much friction, players will get hurt, etc. The Red Sox ultimately really need another power threat and Suzuki (or Arozarena for that matter) would be the best way to add one in free agency.

Anthony Volpe has had individual seasons in which he ran a >10% barrel rate, played a 13 OAA shortstop, stole 20+ bases, ran a double-digit BB%, increased his avg. bat speed 3 ticks, and gotten his ZCon% up around the 85% mark while lowering his Chase%. Needless to say he has not put these all together. What are the odds that he eventually does?

I have no idea. But one of the really cool things about this sport is that "I have no idea" has nothing to do with all of the analytics we have to tell a story and everything to do with these are human beings and it's just going to click for some guys and it can be much later in their career. It can click for one season and they can suck the next season. It's a mental grind and I don't think any of these players (current, past) are great at explaining it. It makes the game more unpredictable. It makes for a lot of great stories.

That will do it for today. Thanks for joining us! We'll be back next Thursday at the same time.


Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 11/12/26

And we are alive! I actually have this open as an open chat, I think, rather than a stricter Q&A. Think of it as an experiment

What is zips seeing with Theo Gillen, Kaelan Culpepper, and Josue de Paula for the 2026 season? Such interesting minor league seasons…how rewarded were they?

ZiPS has a league-average SS; remember, it always liked Culpepper. Gillen would be there too, but ZiPS doesn't really like his CF defense. ZiPS is right around where Steamer is for JDP

You mentioned in the 2027 Brewers write-up that Jesus Made is currently projected to have 40-something career WAR, which would be a fantastic career. Made me think — what’s the single best pre debut projection the model has ever produced? Anyone have their median forecast be HOF worthy?

Trout is the highest I believe, and it's not particularly close. Now, I don't have him right before his debut, but after his cup of coffee, and ZiPS was pegging him at *70* WAR which is unreal for a projection

As a counting stat that depends on available opportunities, RBIs are discounted as a measure of a player’s performance. Have you seen a measure along the lines of “percent of RBI opportunities converted”? For example, the percent of time a hitter drives in a runner on second base, and so on? Is or would such a stat be meaningful in measuring and comparing a player’s hitting results?

It's interesting and STATS did it in a couple of their books. I think the thing you run into is that RBI/opportunity kinda falls in the middle where it has limited use. If you just want to talk about RBIs, then talk about RBIs. if you want to talk about underlying RBI ability, you talk SLG and ISO. So something like this only really comes up when you're discussion something very specific. It's not useless, of course, but the applications are just limited

I feel like I'm in a minority of Tigers fans who don't view moving off Spencer Torkelson as an absolute need in the offseason. I understand the underperformance compared to expectations, but he's been fine offensively for two seasons now. If Detroit were to move on from Tork, what's the upgrade that Scott Harris would be willing to make? Is it simply moving Colt Keith over to first (who I do NOT necessarily view as an upgrade) and make Valencia full-time DH? Would they realistically spend to get France?

Imagine projecting this and being the UNDER

BA OBP SLG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO HP SB CS SH SF + DR WAR
.268 .340 .468 152 568 103 152 26 11 22 67 53 142 10 34 10 3 2 110 2 4.1
.274 .352 .523 151 558 110 153 28 12 29 77 58 148 10 31 9 3 2 127 2 5.4
.278 .360 .542 154 568 116 158 29 11 33 83 63 147 11 32 8 3 2 134 2 6.1
.285 .370 .568 156 572 122 163 30 12 36 89 67 142 11 30 8 3 2 142 1 6.9
.284 .371 .565 156 570 122 162 30 11 36 88 69 143 11 29 8 3 2 142 1 6.8
.282 .370 .558 156 568 122 160 30 11 35 86 70 142 11 28 8 3 2 140 1 6.5
.281 .372 .558 155 565 122 159 29 11 35 86 72 143 11 26 7 3 2 141 1 6.5
.278 .369 .552 155 562 121 156 29 10 35 85 72 144 11 25 7 3 2 138 0 6.2
.274 .364 .535 152 555 116 152 28 9 33 80 70 139 10 23 6 3 2 133 0 5.6
.272 .360 .520 149 544 112 148 27 9 30 76 66 128 10 20 6 3 2 128 0 5.0
.269 .355 .505 145 531 105 143 25 8 28 72 62 117 10 18 5 3 2 123 0 4.5
.267 .350 .489 138 509 98 136 24 7 25 66 57 107 9 13 4 3 2 118 0 3.8
.262 .343 .449 131 485 90 127 23 1 22 58 52 96 9 11 3 3 2 107 -1 2.8
.258 .33

I'd be inclined to, the problem being that options aren't great. France is 32 and coming off his best season and had been really meh for years. Keith is in one of those awkward spots where if you don't have enough defense to play third but not enough offense to play first, you end up as a platoon role player

Briceño is in AAA

Briceño probably needs at least another half-season in AAA though, no?

I'd rather run out Keith, Valencia, Tork and Briceño for a year before blocking the position with a guy like France.

And it missed low! lol

What do you make of Alec Bohm? Is the 3B defense as terrible as his reputation or can it be coached up to where it was in 2024-25, which was just kind of subpar? I think he’s an interesting buy-low candidate to deliver like a 3.5 WAR season for you for $9M

Note that unless I screwed something up, this is an *open* discussion, so all of you can add your opinions to these things!

My opinion is that this is a terrible idea! Have you seen my opinions?!

speaking of trout, whats the variance around his ZIPS projection for 2027? hes getting older but hes only a few years removed from 5-6 fWAR paced seasons

Tinkering with this as an offseason format. While I'm still answering as much as I can, I like the idea of a more open format thing rather than me pronouncing from the Mount.

My only hope for the franchise formerly known as the Cincinnati Reds is a salary floor. Any ideas Dan?

Trout Percentile 2B HR BA OBP SLG OPS+ WAR
95% 28 34 .295 .432 .551 169 5.5
90% 25 30 .280 .416 .529 161 4.8
80% 23 27 .268 .402 .498 149 4.2
70% 22 25 .257 .393 .476 143 3.8
60% 21 24 .251 .383 .460 136 3.3
50% 20 22 .244 .375 .444 130 3.0
40% 19 21 .237 .368 .430 124 2.5
30% 18 19 .230 .360 .413 117 2.2
20% 16 17 .218 .350 .391 111 1.7
10% 14 14 .204 .334 .362 97 1.0
5% 12 12 .188 .323 .329 89 0.4

if he can get 22 homers over the next 4 seasons on average, that gets him to 500, the only thing i ask of the baseball gods

Eventually we'll be able to post images

but this looks less horrible than in jotcast

Reds fans would benefit from a salary floor, but getting a salary cap is going to be required to get a salary floor and you have to defeat the MLBPA to get that

Have you seen MY opinions?

BRef has (or at least used to have) an RBI/Opp report. I do agree with you that it isn't all that useful. Players don't tend to have a preternaturally good/bad ability to convert RBIs that doesn't also correlate with their other hitting stats

Has there been any reporting as to what the vibes are in the MLBPA right now? I'm hoping the players are united AF right now, and I'm wondering if there's any evidence of that

I've said it before and I've said it again: if MLB were really considered about revenue disparities between teams, then they'd actually solve…revenue disparities between teams. And I've written about it!

But increasing revenue sharing pools and giving it on the basis of market size AND wins in order to make marginal wins value across markets doesn't naturally suppress salaries.

I'm not sure on the vibes. The thing is that at some point I somehow became one of the olds and I talk to teams/agents more than individual players

Age probably has something to do with it. I realized halfway through fall ball that my kid’s little league coach was born sometime after I started college. Time is undefeated.

I'd imagine Wander Franco's career projections were pretty stellar?

Oh, they were

They'd still be if not for…you know

Dan! What’s the ZiPS machine expect Seiya to get in free agency? I realize the Cubs probably can’t fit him AND an entire rotation into their miserly budget, but I’ll miss him terribly. For big stretches of the season he carried the offense (well, he carried the half that PCA wasn’t carrying).

I have the general impression that both sides are fired up now, but we don't have the pressure points yet

ZiPS suggests 4/102 for Suzuki

Excuse me, 4/105

$ CUM
$38.7 $38.7
$30.5 $69.2
$22.5 $91.7
$13.2 $104.9

See that’s just frustrating. The idea that the third- or fourth-most-valuable franchise in baseball can’t fit that into their budget is insane.

Time is the ultimate badass. Except I guess the Big Bang which kinda created time

When I was making ZiPS, it was still kinda weird to be older than some MLB players

Now I'm 48, so I'm old enough to be the dad of a huge percentage of them

Wait’ll you get to 51 and parts of you stop working for no apparent reason.

$ CUM 😹

OnlyZIPS

It looks worse if I don't do all caps. But I don't like letting an unfortunate word tell ME what to do

What does ZiPS see for Tyler Mahle's performance over the next couple years? He somehow held onto his second-half performance gains in the playoffs. Could he be a 3-4 win pitcher again?

Who does ZiPS like better next season, Tolle or L.Henderson? Need to pick one in a keeper league

Good to see you Alex!

BAM Player Yr Tm T Age W L S ERA G GS IP H R ER HR BB SO HP WP G/GF HBP GDP IBB BK ERA+ FIP WAR 5WAR WPr 3YERA+
701656 Logan Henderson 2027 MIL R 25 9 7 0 3.79 25 25 116.3 98 53 49 17 32 124 3 3 41% 3 5 0 0 109 3.82 1.8 9.0 15 108
801139 Payton Tolle 2027 BOS L 24 10 6 0 3.41 29 28 153.0 134 63 58 18 40 165 6 4 44% 6 7 1 1 123 3.42 3.2 16.2 15 124

You too, Dan! Also, Dan didn't answer about Alec Bohm, so I will: he's a super BA-dependent righty corner infielder who offers neither power nor defense. I'd be terrified that he turns into Chris Johnson at any moment. I could certainly see him getting a one-year shrug emoji contract – I'm sure he can outhit Ke'Bryan Hayes!

If you were running a team that was in the market for a corner OF would you prefer Seiya, or Arozarena as a value play? I’ve seen a lot of people projecting Randy to get a lot less (Ben had him at 3/$70m), but I’m not sure he’s ~30% worse of a player.

Oops, forgot about Bohm. I'm with Alex. He's kinda stopgappy

I'd prefer Seiya. I honestly think people are underrating what Arozarena will get

What 2027 ZiPS projections surprised you the most? I'm very surprised that the Phillies and Mets both project as pretty good at the moment.

which FA do you think most likely to turn into a pumpkin compared to expectations? i do feel like randy is a top choice

Tolle has the funner comps too

Comp1 Comp2 Comp3 Comp4 Comp5 Comp6
Billy Loes Scott Bankhead Brett Tomko Scott Sanderson Larry Dierker Art Mahaffey
Mike McCormick Jim Merritt Frank Tanana Greg Swindell Chris Sale Billy Hoeft

Man I loved me some late-career Tanana back in the day. Those early-90s Tigers teams were a fun bunch. Massive TTO guys hitting bombs, your ace is a 43yo guy throwing 82mph, your closer occasionally throws a knuckleball, and one of your best players has 20 starts at 6 different positions. Didn’t result in a lot of wins, but they were entertaining.

I like Trevor Rogers, but he's really risky – he's one of the best non-Skubal pitchers in FA and he might get a crazy contract relative to projections

But of course, the lockout throws a monkey wrench into the works

Man, those are some wild comps for Tolle. Dierker is much underrated. A true ace, but injuries took a toll on his arm from early on.

Jeremy, remember, the projected standings are Steamer only right now! I've only JUST got ZiPS running official projections, so I'm not yet at the point where I have enough breathing space to think about that stuff

I lost a day projecting players in the year 20227 and my damn IP address changed last weekend and I lost some time until I was updated for FTP access (I needed some of the data we have on our FTP)

In 20227 baseball will be played on the moon and Coors Field will be considered a pitcher's park

Underrated as a manager too

Tanana has such an interesting career since he spent a large part of it as a flamethrower and a large part as a low MPH slop tosser

He probably lost 8-10 mph on his fastball which is REALLY hard to overcome

I remember reading an interview where they asked him what he threw, and he said “a curve, a slider, a split, a change, and whatever that thing is that used to be my fastball.”

Ok, in that case what Steamer 2027 projections surprised you the most? For me, it was projecting the Mets and Phillies to be pretty good.

According to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the last World Series will be played in 16 years

What do you make of Crochet in 2027?

Bigger fan of traditional knitting. You can’t kill a man with a crochet hook.

The Bell Riots already shoudl have happened two years ago!

you can TRY

101 IP of 3.10 ERA | 3.30 FIP | 3.61 xFIP at AAA from 2025 to 2026 and 123 IP of 2.33 ERA | 2.92 xERA | 3.26 FIP | 3.31 xFIP | 3.14 SIERA in MLB from 2025 to 2026 shakes out to a 3.79 ERA projection for Logan Henderson? Why such heavy regression for a 25yo pitcher who has done nothing but perform at the highest levels over the last two years?

regression for all pitchers is pretty significant!

I'm surprised Steamer liked the Brewers so much

ZiPS has kinda been the most optimistic

Thoughts on valuing RBIs and Wins for season end awards? I've circled back to finding them valuable if the awards are meant to reward what happened vs. skill

(though still missing horribly low)

I haven't circled around. I still think of those as things that happened *for the teams*

Antietam was a big deal and it DID happen, but I'm not giving George McClellan any MVG trophies

Imagine Wander and Caminero playing next to each other for a decade

On Henderson, remember that there's still a lot of 2025 AAA performance in there – AAA performance doesn't become less predictive when we have MLB performance near it

Matt Shaw: Yankees opening day 3B?

Don’t threaten me with a good time.

Which of the glut of FA 2B does ZiPS like the most? Relatedly, which does ZiPS think is the most cost-effective?

Note on new chat format: the format doesn't appear right when you post a column of stats. Also, where can I find replies to my comments? Just scrolling back?

Hi Dan! I doubt we'll miss an entire 2027 season, but how would that theoretically affect ZiPS in 2028? Would you just assume an ageing curve for each player and weigh the past 3 seasons a bit more evenly?

Unique stadiums give a big advantage to the home team. Why are new stadiums looking traditional? How about a giant stadium?

ZiPS has Lowe with the best 2027 projection, but Arraez with the best five-year projection

2026 Misio was projected at 1.7 WAR with 2.8 WAR as the 80th percentile. He ended up with 6.6 fWAR | 7.4 rWAR. Did he exceed his 99th percentile projection?

Unique stadiums also make things awkward for road games though

How much are we trusting the defensive turnaround from Lowe and Arraez btw? I know OAA isn't super sticky but both went from horrible to stellar….

If we don't have 2027, probably filling in 2026 projection with the missed time non-injury modifier

I really hope I don't have to do that though for obvious reasons!

93. Not in fWAR, but the percentiles were based on like 110 innings

I'll note that ZiPS chops a LOT off of Arraez and Lowe defense

For those of you here, I'd like to see what you think of something

For some of our offseason/lockout options, I'm hoping to propose some kind of FanGraphs Audio type of revival where me and someone else (maybe Ben?) actually have it set up for callins, so that FG subscribers can bring up what's on their minds and argue with us a bit

Hi Dan & Ben, long time listener first time caller. What's for lunch? I'll hang up and listen.

Defensive metrics remain a black box to me. I don't get how you can go from abysmal to elite, and I super don't get how per OAA Walls is below average but per DRS he's Andrelton Simmons.

Is that the kind of thing anyone would be interested in?

I hate it! What is it?

Without baseball, I want to push more community things for our members

If zips sees De Paula like STEAMER, seems like it likes his bat a little less than McGonigle's…what are some of the differences? surprising since similar lines in AA and de paula had a good mlb stint (sss)

Oh that’d be fun. I’d absolutely subscribe. I’m not sure you’d want me calling in, but I’d listen for sure.

I feel that one of the reasons we survived COVID isn't just that we started directly asking for money, but that our readers felt they were part of something

or I might be wrong and romanticizing?

I take feedback from you guys very seriously!

I had a cheeseburger for lunch!

DoorDash sent me a notification about a Hardee's deal and I though "Whoa, I forgot they still exist" and had a burger. It was decent but needed salt

Any teasers for which teams you will project next?

Is it just me that forgets that Hardee's exists?

I grew up around Hardee’s but never went to one, then moved to CA for college and they became Carl’s Jr. Which Id eat at for a while when I was in college, but they’re just not that good.

Pirates!

then Rangers probably monday

ZiPS going to be a little more flexible than usual. Pre-lockout transactions may swamp things and I want to be able to grab some of those myself

Makes sense. I’m curious if there will or won’t be the flood of transactions predicted because of the impending lockout.

A couple weeks ago, I realized that ROY ROGERS still exist. And their roast beef is better than Arby's

Apparently, western MD still loves Roy Rogers

I forget Hardee’s exists, but in live in California where it’s called Carl’s Jr.

I dont' think Hardee's has ever been as popular as Carl's Jr. is in CA. No?

I’d take an In-n-out burger over Carl’s any day of the week…

I don't spend much time in CA

I was shocked to see Roy Rogers in Cumberland. The moderately nice woman my age who doesn't like when I tell stories about her wanted to stop at the dispensary and I saw Roy Rogers so HAD to get it

I assumed they had all gone out of business in 1998 or something

But I mean Carl's Jr is still more popular in CA than hardee's elsewhere, I think. Not making a burger value judgment

Any other baseball stuff before we go? I gotta get Pirates ready for Meg and Matt so it can go in the morning

I mostly listen to audio things in my car, would you guys be likely to set up FG audio on pop streaming platforms like YT music or spotify or keep it in-house? I'd make a point to listen regardless but I'd probably frequently forget otherwise

FA has been on spotify!

Yeah, Carl’s is reasonably popular out here. I’ll happily make the burger value judgement for you on this one.

It's been on hiatus since Dylan Higgins left

We haven't really had a podcast person since

I do miss doing FanGraphs Audio and would like to see it back in some form

Or if not, just do a really weird Szymborski podcast

OK, on that note, I'll close this off for the week

But again, this is an OPEN chat, so you guys can freely talk things


Back Healthy, Blue Jays Prospect Jake Bloss Is Looking To Regain His Top-100 Form

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Jake Bloss is looking to rebound after two years of frustration. A Top 100 prospect beginning with our midseason update in 2024 — he ranked 82nd with a 50 FV — the 25-year-old right-hander made his major league debut with the Houston Astros that June before being traded to the Toronto Blue Jays. He subsequently landed on the shelf after tearing his UCL six minor league starts into the 2025 season, and he is still battling his way back to full form. Returning to the mound this summer, Bloss registered a 6.18 ERA and a 6.01 FIP over 39 1/3 minor league frames. Much for those reasons, he ranked just ninth on our newly-released Blue Jays top prospects list. Moreover, his FV has been downgraded to a 40+.

In his recent report on Bloss, Brendan Gawlowski noted that, “I still like him and, health willing, see a path to the mid-rotation projection he had last year. Between the injury and uneven performance, though, he slides into this FV tier for now.”

The road to Toronto currently has Bloss in Arizona, where his outings with the Mesa Solar Sox have been something of a mixed bag. As chance would have it, I attended arguably the best of them on a drizzly October 31 afternoon at Scottsdale Stadium. Pitching against a Scorpions lineup that included highly-regarded prospects such as Nathan Flewelling and Zyhir Hope, Bloss fanned four batters and allowed just a pair of baserunners over three innings. Notably, his fastball velocity sat 96-97 mph throughout. Read the rest of this entry »


Welcome to We Tried Season

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With another season in the books, it looks like it’s going to be a long winter. The good news is that for certain flavors of sicko, this is when the real action happens. Welcome to We Tried Season. In case you’ve forgotten, We Tried is the catch-all term for when a player signs with one team and another team subsequently makes it known that they also tried to sign that player, or at least had some interest in him. It’s a way of mollifying the fans who desperately want their team to get better. “No, we didn’t sign the player you wanted us to sign,” says the team, “but we are committed to getting better. Just not as committed as the team that actually signed him. Please don’t be mad at us.”

Imagine that it’s Christmas morning. Your son wakes up and sprints down to the tree to find his presents. You’re already up, sitting in an armchair with your slippers on and a steaming cup of tea. “Hey little guy,” you say with a smile. “You can stop looking. Santa didn’t bring you any presents this year. But don’t you worry! He strongly considered getting you that Lego set you wanted, before ultimately deciding that it wasn’t the best allocation of his limited resources.” Wouldn’t that make your son feel better?

That’s the essence of the We Tried, and here at FanGraphs, we’ve spent the past two offseasons and trade deadlines documenting them all, both in writing and in needlessly complicated spreadsheets. We haven’t seen an official We Tried so far this offseason, but reports of which teams are interested in which players are starting to fly, and we’ve already come very close. After right-hander Ryan Weiss signed a one-year deal with the Padres, Jesse Rogers of ESPN reported that Weiss “had interest around the league and a chance to return to the KBO.” Maybe we’ll find out which other teams were interested in Weiss, but for the meantime, we can be generous and credit the entire country of South Korea with the first We Tried of the offseason. Congratulations Korea, and thank you for gochujang. It is amazing. Read the rest of this entry »


2027 Contemporary Baseball Era Committee Candidate: Dusty Baker

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This post is part of a series covering the 2027 Contemporary Baseball Era Committee Managers/Umpires/Executives ballot, which includes candidates in those categories who made their greatest impact from 1980 to the present. You’ll find an introduction to the ballot here. The eight candidates will be voted on in San Diego on December 6, and anyone receiving at least 75% of the vote from the 16 committee members will be inducted in Cooperstown on July 25, 2027 along with any candidates elected by the BBWAA.

2027 Contemporary Baseball Candidate: Manager Dusty Baker
Manager G W-L W-L% G>.500 Playoffs Pennants WS
Dusty Baker 4046 2183-1862 .540 321 13 3 1
AVG HOF Mgr* 3636 1943-1673 .537 270 7 5 2.5
Source: Baseball-Reference
* Average based on the careers of 22 enshrined AL/NL managers from the 20th and 21st centuries

By the time he was 20 years old, Dusty Baker had been drafted by the Braves, fished with Satchel Paige, attended the Monterey Pop Festival, smoked marijuana with Jimi Hendrix, enlisted in the Marine Corps Reserves, and collected his first two major league hits. More than half a century later, after a 19-year playing career and 24-plus seasons as a manager, he secured his 2,000th win as a skipper and led the Astros to a championship, becoming the oldest manger to win a World Series (age 73) in the process. In between those two points, he was mentored by Henry Aaron while the slugger chased and surpassed Babe Ruth’s all-time home run record, inadvertently helped invent the high five, won a World Series as a player, endured several excruciating near-misses as a manager, and became friends with future president Barack Obama. The lives and careers of baseball figures don’t get much more fascinating. Read the rest of this entry »


Effectively Wild Episode 2556: Benge, Don’t Break

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Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about Andrew Friedman’s comments about the Brewers, non-baseball historical comps for Pat Murphy’s unprecedented third consecutive Manager of the Year Award, and what it would take for him to extend the streak to four. Then (27:17) Meg breaks down her NL Rookie of the Year ballot, followed by additional discussion of why the Cubs won’t sign Tarik Skubal, Scott Boras puns, Ty France’s roof ball, a few stray signings/hirings, and NPB ghost wins.

Audio intro: PJ Harding, “Effectively Wild Theme”
Audio outro: Josh Busman, “Effectively Wild Theme”

Link to Friedman thread
Link to FG preseason staff predictions
Link to Dan S. on ZiPS
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Link to Sharpe novels wiki
Link to Aubrey–Maturin novels wiki
Link to superfecta wiki
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Link to McGwire Simpsons clip
Link to Stewart monthly splits
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Link to Benge arm article
Link to rookie WPA leaders
Link to EW Episode 2531
Link to best ML rookie wRC+
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Link to Sahadev on Skubal
Link to MLBTR on Skubal bidding
Link to MLBTR on Brown surgery
Link to Boras phone ring
Link to Boras on Skubal
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Link to Boras on Jeffers
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The Tigers Are Pagán the Future of Their Bullpen on This Offseason’s First Free Agent Signing

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In the days before the 2021-22 lockout, there was an unprecedented leaguewide free agent spending bacchanal that set high expectations for this November. On Tuesday night, the Detroit Tigers showed up to the party and picked the first canapé off the tray, signing reliever Emilio Pagán to a one-year, $11 million contract.

Pagán is the first of our top 50 free agents to come off the board, and we’re starting from the bottom of the list: Ben Clemens had him ranked right at no. 50 and predicted a two-year, $16 million contract for the 35-year-old from South Carolina. Our crowdsourced predictions were the same, to within half a million dollars. Read the rest of this entry »


FanGraphs Power Rankings: Offseason 2027 (No. 1–15)

There was a spark in the hot stove yesterday when Emilio Pagán signed with the Tigers, but it’s still pretty early in the offseason and not too much has happened. On Monday, I examined how the early 2027 projections viewed the bottom 15 teams in baseball. Today, I’ll take a look at the clubs projected to finish with a .500-or-better record in 2027.

The rankings below present each team as they are currently constructed, based on our Depth Charts playing time projections. This should give us a pretty good idea of which teams would be ready to compete if the 2027 season started today, and which ones have a lot of work ahead of them this offseason.

Our power rankings use a modified Elo rating system. If you’re familiar with chess rankings, you’ll know that Elo is an elegant ranking format that measures teams’ relative strength and is very reactive to recent performance. For these offseason rankings, I’ve pulled the Depth Charts projections and calculated an implied Elo ranking for each team. Our projections are entirely powered by the 2027 Steamer projections right now; the ZiPS projections will be added later on in the offseason. The delta column in the full rankings below shows the change in ranking from the final regular season run of the power rankings. Read the rest of this entry »


The Year in Outfield Force Outs

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Julio Rodríguez only made one five-star catch this year. Well, that’s not entirely true. Rodríguez is indeed credited with making only one five-star play this year, but as you can see, it wasn’t a catch.

With one out and runners on the corners, Detroit’s Dillon Dingler lifted a popup into shallow center field. Either because he knew he wouldn’t get there in time or he knew that the runner on first would have to wait to see whether the ball was caught, Rodríguez pulled up, fielded the ball on the hop, and fired to second for a force out.

I happen to love this kind of play. I love it when the outfielder gets to turn into an infielder for a moment, trying to pick a good hop, snapping the ball up and making a quick transfer, and trying their best to whip the ball to second with the short stroke of a second baseman in time to catch the runner. I’ve had my eye on these outfield force outs ever since Rodríguez made a similar play in 2024.

I noticed that particular play because I was surfing around the defense section of Rodríguez’s Statcast page, and I couldn’t help clicking on that one lonesome dot that indicated he’d made a play that wasn’t just difficult, but quite possibly impossible.

It turned out that catching it in the air was impossible, but in the right situation with the right baserunner, recording the out could still be done. I had intended, over the winter, to write a roundup of that season’s outfield force outs. “Fun video article,” I wrote in my list of article ideas, “outfielders making force plays.” But as is so often the case, other, more pressing matters kept coming up. Now here we are two years later, and the roundup’s time has finally come, though you could argue that it’s coming too late. The 2026 season saw 17 outfield force outs. Not counting 2020, that’s tied for the lowest total in the pitch tracking era. In fact, the numbers seem to be trending downward very slightly.

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Ty France’s Roof Banger: Home Run or Not?

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Every now and then, something takes place in a major league baseball game that causes my inbox to light up. That’s what happened on October 4, when then-Padres first baseman Ty France hit a towering fly ball down the left field line during Game 1 of the NLDS at American Family Field. The ballpark has a retractable roof, which was closed at the time. As a result, the ball hit a roof cable in fair territory, slowing its progress to the point where it was caught on the warning track by Brewers left fielder Jackson Chourio. Since the ball struck the cable in fair territory, it was in play according to the American Family Field ground rules, so the caught ball was ruled an out. Nobody disputes those facts.

But here’s the question everyone seemed to be asking me: Had the ball not hit the cable, would it have cleared the left field fence in fair territory for a home run? Note that the fence is 342 feet from home plate and eight feet high. Note also that the ball was hit down the line. So the question of whether it would have been a home run reduces to two separate questions regarding the location of the ball once it reached 342 feet from home plate:

  • Was the height of the ball greater than eight feet?
  • Was the ball to the field side of the foul line?

Normally, given the exit velocity and launch angle, determining whether France’s ball would have been a home run would be easy. I would simply use my Trajectory Calculator with default values for the unknown parameters to calculate the full trajectory. Those default parameters are based on analysis of Statcast batted ball data from past major league seasons. However, this particular batted ball was somewhat unusual in that, while the exit velocity was a respectable 105.3 mph, the launch angle, 48.7 degrees, was considerably steeper than is typical for a major league home run. Had the ball been hit at close to the optimum launch angle of about 30 degrees, it would have carried over 400 feet, making the answer to our first question a resounding “yes.” But that is not what happened. Read the rest of this entry »