2016 Trade Value: Introduction
For most of baseball, it’s All-Star Week, a time where we celebrate the best players in the game by letting them strike out against guys throwing 100 mph for 20 pitches at a time. At FanGraphs, though, All-Star Week means something else; it’s time for the annual Trade Value series.
While it’s almost always an academic pursuit, given that most of these guys are practically unavailable in trade, it’s still fun to work through the various pros and cons of the game’s most valuable players. We’re kicking off the series with the introduction post today, which includes a look back at guys who aren’t carrying over from last year’s list, and will have the honorable mentions and the last 10 guys in tomorrow. We’ll do 10 spots per day, culminating with the top 10 on Friday.
I’ve been doing a list like this for 12 years now, with the first one coming way back in 2005, and I moved the exercise to FanGraphs in 2008. The process has changed over the years, and hopefully the information presented gets a little better each year. As with last year, Dan Szymborski has been kind enough to provide five year ZIPS forecasts for every player on the list, so you will be able see how his algorithm projects each player from 2017 through 2021. The players aren’t ranked based on those projections, but I think that piece of information provides some insight into how the long-term value of various players might compare to each other. We’re also displaying the contract status for each player, which is, of course, a major factor in determining their trade value.
For those new to the series, the list is an attempt to answer the question of who would bring back the most in trade for their team if they were to be put on the market and made available before the deadline. Because different teams have varying resources and roster needs, we’re not saying that if one player is ranked ahead of another player, the team with the lower ranked player would make a one-for-one swap for the higher ranked player; there are some teams that will put more of a premium on short-term value while others who are looking to maximize long-term potential, and salary is a larger factor for some organizations than others. Of course, every team would love to have a player who contributes both now and in the future, and does so without consuming a large part of their budget; guys who check all of those boxes will rank at the very top of the list.
For most players that we’ll discuss over the next week, though, they come with a combination of those features, but don’t check all those boxes. Weighing the pros and cons of their ability to help a team win right now, their place as a long-term building block, and how their salary plays into a team’s financial picture requires balancing different strengths and weaknesses, but there’s no question that the game has shifted towards younger players over the last few years, and teams have never put a higher price on youth than they do today. As such, this list is also going to skew younger than it has in most years, as teams have started to shy away from moving their best young talents, realizing that in many cases, the young guys — especially the ones close to the big leagues — are nearly as capable of helping a team today as “proven” older players.
And right now, we have a flood of great young talent pouring into baseball. Especially at shortstop, there’s a depth of talent perhaps never before seen, but at most every position, there are a host of terrific young players looking like they’re the future of the game. That wave of great young talent means that, with only 50 spots on the list, we’re simply not going to be able to include everyone, and many of the biggest name players in the game today have been pushed off the list in favor of the next generation, especially as these big name guys start to decline and get expensive at the same time. And, of course, it’s natural for players to lose trade value each year, as they march closer to free agency; some players just happen to lose value a little faster than others.
So, before we start to unveil the list, let’s talk about the players who made the cut last year but fell off the list this year.
| Player | Position | 2015 Rank |
| Andrew McCutchen | OF | #9 |
| Sonny Gray | SP | #15 |
| Giancarlo Stanton | OF | #21 |
| Anthony Rendon | 3B | #24 |
| Matt Harvey | SP | #27 |
| Yasiel Puig | OF | #28 |
| Jose Abreu | 1B | #29 |
| Andrelton Simmons | SS | #30 |
| Yordano Ventura | SP | #36 |
| Michael Wacha | SP | #37 |
| Felix Hernandez | SP | #38 |
| Freddie Freeman | 1B | #40 |
| Byron Buxton | OF | #42 |
| Yan Gomes | C | #43 |
| Jason Kipnis | 2B | #44 |
| Dallas Keuchel | SP | #45 |
| Todd Frazier | 3B | #46 |
| Jonathan Lucroy | C | #48 |
| Joe Panik | 2B | #49 |
| Jorge Soler | OF | #50 |
For most of those guys, their performance since the list was published last year simply hasn’t lived up to what they did previously, and they’ve eroded some of the league’s faith in their abilities to still perform at an elite level. McCutchen takes the biggest fall, but that is because, in addition to his 2016 struggles, he’s also now only two years away from free agency; he was going to drop significantly in the rankings even if he kept playing well, so his struggles have just compounded the slide. This doesn’t mean McCutchen is no longer a valuable trade chip, but that the Pirates probably wouldn’t get the same kind of haul for him that one might expect for a guy who has been an elite performer.
Stanton takes a big fall not only because his contact rates have raised some concerns about his long-term value this year, but because those concerns make it less likely that he’ll exercise the opt-out clause in his contract, which would void the final seven years of his deal. With that likelihood reduced, the full weight of his contract would likely scare off many suitors, and while a few teams would still happily trade for him, there probably wouldn’t be enough demand to take on the contract for the Marlins to also extract a big return in talent.
Gray leads the group of young pitchers who have regressed in 2016, with Harvey, Wacha, Ventura, and Keuchel also going the wrong way this year. With the exception of Angry Yordano, they’d certainly still be sought after in trade if they were made available at the deadline, but the prices on each have diminished significantly with their struggles and their closer proximity to arbitration and free agency.
Two guys from last year’s list were actually traded since the list was published, and in both cases, they went cheap relative to expectations; Simmons and Frazier both are off the list after MLB teams showed us exactly what their trade value really was. Frazier would have fallen off the list anyway, since he was getting close to free agency, and with teams moving towards youth over short-term veterans, he probably shouldn’t have made the cut a year ago. Simmons is a reminder that teams still don’t pay for defense the same way they pay for offense, and that defensive specialists aren’t going to bring back in trade what we might think based on their production.
Buxton and Soler are reminders that not every talented young player improves linearly, and while both could still have good careers, it seems pretty clear that the stock of both players is down relative to what it was a year ago. But in talking with people in the game, no one is taking their foot off the young player pedal, and even with those two falling off the list this year, you’re still going to see a lot of unproven guys on the list this year; teams are willing to take that risk to get a franchise young player.
Rendon, Puig, and Abreu have all ranked quite highly on this list at various times over the last few years, but each of them now look like they peaked early. If Buxton and Soler are reminders that prospects are no sure thing, these three serve as reminders that no one is a sure thing, even guys who look like MVP candidates early in their careers.
And then there are the guys who haven’t really lost value in terms of expected performance, but are simply moving down at the natural pace due to their march towards their more expensive years. Freeman is still a good player on a below-market contract, but he’s in the last of his super cheap years, and is set to make $17 million next season, so he’s not quite the bargain he was in past years. Panik remains a quality performer with a very interesting set of skills, but he’s used up one of his pre-arb years this year, so there’s less value to trade than there was last year; he now finds himself getting passed by a few of the elite young guys making their way up the ladder.
So those are the guys who won’t be coming back to the list after appearing last year. Tomorrow morning, we’ll cover the players who just missed the cut, and then we’ll publish #50 to #41 in the late-morning, kicking off the series in earnest. I hope you find this exercise as fun as I do, and enjoy a week of thinking about the trade value of guys who almost certainly won’t be traded.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Thanks for putting all of this together Dave! It’s definitely one of my favorite sets of articles at FG.
Love the annual list and can’t wait to see who the number 1 ZiPS projected player is that you teased last week. With that being said, I would thing Cutch would still be in the top 50 (in the 40-50 range). I don’t think there are any win now teams that don’t trade their top prospect for him (unless they do t have room in the outfield) and I don’t think there are enough cheap good production guys in the top 50 but I might be wrong.
Looking forward to the list this week.
That top ZIPS guy is almost certainly one of the young shortstops, and I’m guessing it’s Seager based on his combination of youth and performance this year. I considered Bryant, but it seems unlikely since he’s older than Trout, and Dave already ruled out Machado.
Did he say it was #1 or #2? I can’t imagine someone got a better projection than Trout.
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Found the quote
“Mike Trout only barely has the best ZIPS five year forecast; there’s a player expected to pass him as the best player on the planet in a couple of years.”
Can’t wait!! I was just arguing with my brother and nephew last night about what the Cubs would have to give the White Sox to get Chris Sale.
Well, last year Sale was #6, Rizzo was #7, and Bryant was #4. So similar to what it would take to get either Rizzo or Bryant from the Cubs, at least by Dave’s math.
Another way of looking at it is that the White Sox are paying Chris Sale $48M over four years (including this year and the two options on the end) and are anticipating about 24 WAR during that time. One WAR seems to be worth approximately $8M on the free agent market these days so Sale will be supplying $144M in excess value over the course of his contract. The injury risk for pitchers probably roughly cancels out the bust risk on prospects. The White Sox would have to be expecting something similar back.
That’s probably at least 2 grade A prospects and then maybe a couple more for filler.
Right. My brother was saying that they could get Sale for Baez, Contreras and Vogelbach or Soler. I said the number of top players the Sox would demand would make it unpalatable for the Cubs. I was thinking Schwarber and Contreras, along with Almora or Soler or both. Can’t see the Cubs making that trade.
With Stanton, Felix, and Freeman falling off the list, the only guys left that require a significant financial commitment left from last year are Trout and Posey. Everyone else is pre-arb, arb or signed for cheap. The next most expensive guy is Corey Kluber, and his biggest annual guarantee is $13m.
Buxton and Soler are just the most recent examples of why no prospect should ever truly be untouchable in trade. It’s about extracting the max expected value from a player, in whatever manner that comes.
I think a lot of GM’s are afraid to make that kind of trade, whether to get the prospect or send them away. For fear of trading away the next Trout or acquiring an absolute bust. Those are the kind of moves that can get you fired and never get another shot at GM.
Not really, in terms of examples. Soler was never even a top ten prospect, so he could hardly have ever been called “untouchable” anyways. Buxton isn’t a good example of anything yet, because declaring anything using him is woefully premature.
As to your greater point, sure, the idea is to not trade one of these guys unless you get more value than you expect the prospect to produce as a major leaguer. That’s why, to use Boston as an example, it would make sense to use Espinoza or Devers in a trade for a big piece (they are so far away that their projections are very wide), some sense to deal Moncada (as he looks like a safe enough bet and has max potential, but has enough flaws that success isn’t a guarantee) in a deal for a star, and little sense to deal Benintendi (as he looks about as sure a bet as you can find). At some point, the risk for any given prospect is enough that the trade return is a wiser bet.
1. Mookie Betts. 2. Mookie Betts. 3. Mookie Betts. 4. Mookie Betts. 5. Mookie Betts
Can’t wait for more anagrams.
Can’t wait for more, a man’s rag!
So Dave said that there is going to be a surprise #2 (or that there is a ZiPS projection that will surprise you after #1 Mike Trout) so my guess for the top 5:
#1 Trout
#2 Machado
#3 Harper
#4 (Corey) Seager
#5 Kris Bryant
I think Seager is that mystery projection but doesn’t pass Harper/Machado since it’s not just projections.
Except Seager is younger and cheaper than the other guys on the list. If he’s the mystery ZIPS projection, he might be #2.
My top 10. Syndegaard the only pitcher, which makes me think he could be the surprise top 2.
1-Trout
2-Bryant
3-Seager
4-Lindor
5-Syndegaard
6-Correa
7-Harper
8-Rizzo
9-Betts
10-Bogaerts
Accidently left off Machado, who I have 10th. So lets make it a dozen…..
1-Trout
2-Bryant
3-Seager
4-Lindor
5-Syndegaard
6-Correa
7-Harper
8-Rizzo
9-Betts
10-Machado
11-Bogaerts
12-Sale
I think those 12 are about right, +/- a few spots here and there. I think Rizzo’s absurdly team friendly contract might be enough to jump him up a few spots. Paul Goldschmidt probably is worthy of inclusion as well, for the same reason, an absurdly team friendly contract. Goldy came in at 3 last year and he obviously has one less year remaining since last year’s rankings but he’s only owed $8.875M in ’17, $11.1M in ’18 plus a team option for $14.5M in ’19.
For what he provides, that’s incredible value and less than he’d make in arbitration, never mind the open market. I’d throw Goldy in around 9-10, and only that low because of just how good, cheap and far away from free agency some of these other guys are.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Arenado or Altuve in the T-10, even though Altuve’s contract is a little short to make that big of a jump
Basically, the best comp for those two players is Bogaerts, who is also an IF and has just 3.5 years of control like them. Bogaerts has the edge in age by about 2 years and also has the position advantage. So they will need to out produce him to have the advantage.
I see no reason why Arenado should be ranked ahead. However, you make a good case with Altuve. He was next on my list at 13 and I could see him ahead of Bogaerts. Not ahead of Machado or Betts though. You talked me into Altuve at 11. Thats how see it the way I rank players.
Thanks.
Personally, I had Goldschmidt at just 9th at the end of last year. Goldschmidt is only controlled for 3.5 more years. He is having a touch of a down year[2.8 fWAR]. His ZIPS projection for the rest of the year isn’t that great[2.0] and he is by far the oldest player on the list[28.10]. Still top 15 though.
From 2005, #34; Andruw Jones. “He also doesn’t strike me as a player who is going to age particularly well.”
Yeah, that was a good call. He was in the middle of a great year, then had a very good year, then an ok-to-good year, and pretty much nothing worth mentioning after that, even if he did muddle along until age 35.
Not sure Abreu “peaked early” in the same way as Puig and Rendon may have. All three of them had their best year in 2014, but that was Puig’s age-23, Rendon’s age-24, and Abreu’s age-27. I’m more inclined to treat Abreu as sort of a unique situation due to the particulars of his signing and skill set.
lol Yan Gomes.
Indeed. I hope that either the five year forecasts have improved since last season or that they’re given much less weight.
This series is one of my favorites. Thanks Dave!
Thanks also for the walk down memory lane by linking your old lists.
Jeremy Bonderman, Felipe Lopez, and Daniel Cabrera made a top trade value list?
Good times!
Just out of curiosity, how do you factor no-trade clauses into this?
I don’t see that you would. Most of these guys (particularly at the top of the list) never will be traded, so they effectively have no-trade clauses anyway. This is the value they would fetch if they were traded, so you implicitly assume the player waived his no-trade clause if there happened to be one — just like you assume the commissioner doesn’t void the trade in “the best interests of baseball” either.
The most surprising addition to the top 30…Kiermaier. The Cubs reportedly were willing to pay a ransom in the offseason.
Was the usual credit given to Bill Simmons forgotten this year, or is that coming tomorrow? I appreciate how great his “trade value” column idea was because he made the freakin’ NBA interesting with it, so I like him to get the credit he deserves for inspiring the same exercise in a MUCH more interesting sport.
Can’t wait to see the results. They’re an annual treasure.
Bill Simmons was not the first person to do a trade value rankings column.
/audience gasps
True, but in previous iterations Dave has mentioned that Simmons’s NBA rankings were Dave’s inspiration to start doing his own MLB version.
He did, and yet Dave has been doing these for over a decade now. At some point you don’t need to keep genuflecting.
I didn’t realize that a quick notation of credit was “genuflecting”. Take it easy, buddy.
What the heck is with the thumbs downs? Simmons has been getting credit from the first edition of these right on through last year, so it isn’t as if I was saying that this column was a rip off and demanding that Simmons be given credit.
Also, for you thumbs down morons out there, whether Simmons was the first ever to do this type of item as a column or not, he 1) popularized this particular format, and 2) was the DIRECT influence for Dave Cameron’s version, right on down to DC using portions of Simmons’s opening explanation for his column.
Geez, some people…
From the 2005 article: “[Bobby] Crosby’s got a shot to be the best shortstop in the American League for the forseeable future.”
Technically correct. He had a shot.