2022 ZiPS Projections: Seattle Mariners
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Seattle Mariners.
Batters
This is one case where just taking a glance at the depth chart graphic could lend the wrong impression. In the below graphic, two of the four most valuable ZiPS-projected hitters have their contributions split among multiple positions, with lesser players bringing down their overall numbers, and a third isn’t even on the depth chart. What’s more, the Mariners have reasonably good depth, especially offensively, and while the ceiling on most of the lineup isn’t exceptionally high, I do think they have a pretty high floor. I also don’t believe that Evan White has anywhere near enough remaining rope to get 300 plate appearances in 2022 if he matches his projection below.
Suffice it to say, ZiPS is convinced by Julio Rodríguez now. His 2019 performance for West Virginia in the Sally League was tremendous given his age at the time (18), but the low minors are still the low minors. 2020 cost him a year of development, but now that he has hit farther up the ladder, while still being young for the levels he traversed in 2021, there aren’t any statistical reasons to quibble. ZiPS doesn’t project three-win seasons from players this young on a whim. The complete list of hitters age 22-and-under who have projected for 3 WAR since I started making WAR part of the standard projections is below; note that the 2020 projections are pro-rated for the shortened season:
Year | Player | Projected WAR | Actual |
---|---|---|---|
2014 | Mike Trout | 9.5 | 8.3 |
2017 | Carlos Correa | 6.5 | 5.1 |
2021 | Juan Soto | 6.3 | 6.6 |
2021 | Fernando Tatis Jr. | 5.4 | 6.1 |
2019 | Juan Soto | 5.1 | 4.9 |
2016 | Carlos Correa | 4.9 | 5.2 |
2014 | Bryce Harper | 4.9 | 1.6 |
2014 | Manny Machado | 4.5 | 2.3 |
2018 | Cody Bellinger | 4.4 | 3.6 |
2019 | Ozzie Albies | 4.3 | 4.5 |
2015 | Manny Machado | 4.2 | 6.6 |
2019 | Ronald Acuña Jr. | 4.0 | 5.5 |
2016 | Corey Seager | 3.9 | 6.9 |
2016 | Francisco Lindor | 3.8 | 5.5 |
2015 | Bryce Harper | 3.5 | 9.3 |
2018 | Ozzie Albies | 3.3 | 3.7 |
2014 | Gregory Polanco | 3.2 | 0.5 |
2015 | Mookie Betts | 3.1 | 4.8 |
2019 | Kyle Tucker | 3.1 | 0.5 |
2020 | Juan Soto | 2.2 | 2.5 |
2020 | Ronald Acuña Jr. | 1.9 | 2.4 |
2020 | Bo Bichette | 1.3 | 0.8 |
2020 | Fernando Tatis Jr. | 1.2 | 2.9 |
2020 | Vladimir Guerrero Jr. | 1.2 | 0.2 |
ZiPS actually under-projected this group by about 0.2 WAR per year. There’s only one player you can really call a bust, Gregory Polanco, but even he was an average player for several years, which isn’t exactly Brien Taylor territory. Most of these players are now fabulously wealthy men netting lots and lots of wins for their respective clubs. Rodríguez may join them soon.
Seattle’s lineup is generally solid but unexciting, which is one reason I hope Rodríguez pushes his way to the majors quickly, as few of the players on the team have anywhere near his dizzying upside. (I should also note that I’m more optimistic about Jarred Kelenic than the computer is.) The Mariners are in a tricky position here because while the solid nature of their group of hitters is a welcome feature, a team with two-win players everywhere is also a tricky one to upgrade in the short-term. I’d love to see Seattle sign Freddie Freeman, moving Ty France to an outfield corner (with positional flexibility) and Mitch Haniger to DH, or bring in Kris Bryant to take over third base, even with Abraham Toro on the roster. But I suspect that if they’re planning something that big it’s more likely to be targeted at pitching. Speaking of which…
Pitchers
Robbie Ray was an excellent pickup, giving the team the kind of legitimate ace they’ve been sorely lacking since the decline of King Félix. If the projections are to be believed, Seattle also has good choices with which to populate the middle and back parts of the rotation, with some perfectly reasonable options should injuries strike next year. George Kirby, Brandon Williamson, and Matt Brash all look like they can contribute imminently, and it’s not just the computer that likes them; my colleagues Eric Longenhagen and Kevin Goldstein ranked Kirby as baseball’s No. 41 prospect in their September Top 100 prospect update, with the other two players I mentioned in the team’s top 10. Emerson Hancock ranking lower in the projections isn’t an expression of the algorithm’s dislike, but simply a reflection of the fact that he only has 44 2/3 professional innings under his belt.
What the Mariners still need if they expect to be a contender — and I really think they can be — is someone to pair with Ray at the top of the rotation. Now, several options have already come off the board, but it’s hard to not see a use for Carlos Rodón, Clayton Kershaw, or Zack Greinke in this rotation.
The bullpen could also still use a bit of extra sizzle. Our Depth Charts are currently driven by Steamer, but ZiPS is in broad agreement with the idea that Seattle’s bullpen is below-average at the moment. Like the rotation prior to the signing of Ray, there’s the middle and back of a good ‘pen here, but the Mariners are still missing the top two guys. Some of the best options are already unavailable, but if I was in charge in Seattle, I’d be burning up the phones trying to work something out with Andrew Chafin, Collin McHugh, or Ryan Tepera (among others), at least when they’re allowed to do so again.
So where are the Mariners now? Probably in the 80-85 win range, but it’s a solid 80-85 wins. Hopefully when baseball resumes, Seattle makes a big push to find even more out there.
Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here.
Player | B | Age | PO | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Julio Rodríguez | R | 21 | RF | 411 | 376 | 56 | 106 | 19 | 1 | 16 | 51 | 29 | 96 | 15 | 4 |
Ty France | R | 27 | 1B | 640 | 567 | 84 | 160 | 31 | 2 | 21 | 83 | 43 | 115 | 1 | 1 |
J.P. Crawford | L | 27 | SS | 653 | 585 | 80 | 152 | 31 | 3 | 11 | 57 | 56 | 120 | 5 | 5 |
Mitch Haniger | R | 31 | RF | 612 | 547 | 91 | 136 | 25 | 2 | 31 | 91 | 50 | 152 | 3 | 0 |
Adam Frazier | L | 30 | 2B | 615 | 559 | 75 | 151 | 27 | 4 | 9 | 45 | 43 | 77 | 7 | 6 |
Kyle Seager | L | 34 | 3B | 571 | 514 | 63 | 117 | 26 | 1 | 25 | 89 | 48 | 129 | 3 | 1 |
Donovan Walton | L | 28 | SS | 445 | 395 | 58 | 101 | 18 | 2 | 12 | 50 | 32 | 67 | 2 | 5 |
Abraham Toro | B | 25 | 2B | 518 | 461 | 65 | 112 | 22 | 2 | 14 | 56 | 43 | 92 | 6 | 4 |
Jose Marmolejos | L | 29 | 1B | 453 | 405 | 55 | 101 | 19 | 1 | 19 | 63 | 41 | 107 | 0 | 0 |
Kyle Lewis | R | 26 | CF | 448 | 405 | 49 | 97 | 18 | 0 | 15 | 47 | 40 | 136 | 4 | 1 |
Luis Torrens | R | 26 | C | 460 | 420 | 47 | 99 | 20 | 2 | 15 | 56 | 34 | 115 | 0 | 1 |
Jake Fraley | L | 27 | LF | 375 | 324 | 44 | 75 | 15 | 2 | 14 | 51 | 42 | 106 | 13 | 5 |
Dylan Moore | R | 29 | 2B | 373 | 329 | 43 | 70 | 15 | 2 | 12 | 42 | 34 | 103 | 20 | 7 |
Jarred Kelenic | L | 22 | CF | 535 | 484 | 65 | 111 | 23 | 3 | 23 | 76 | 44 | 137 | 12 | 6 |
Jantzen Witte | R | 32 | 3B | 436 | 402 | 51 | 100 | 15 | 0 | 11 | 44 | 26 | 91 | 3 | 3 |
Tom Murphy | R | 31 | C | 307 | 273 | 32 | 58 | 10 | 1 | 12 | 38 | 30 | 99 | 1 | 1 |
Kevin Padlo | R | 25 | 3B | 434 | 385 | 46 | 76 | 16 | 1 | 15 | 45 | 39 | 142 | 6 | 2 |
Cal Raleigh | B | 25 | C | 411 | 381 | 42 | 84 | 22 | 0 | 16 | 52 | 24 | 106 | 3 | 1 |
Taylor Trammell | L | 24 | CF | 513 | 449 | 63 | 90 | 15 | 2 | 16 | 52 | 50 | 165 | 10 | 6 |
Alberto Rodriguez | L | 21 | RF | 469 | 430 | 60 | 94 | 18 | 1 | 13 | 52 | 31 | 118 | 8 | 3 |
Brian O’Keefe | R | 28 | C | 415 | 380 | 44 | 83 | 12 | 0 | 16 | 48 | 32 | 123 | 2 | 1 |
José Godoy | L | 27 | C | 343 | 314 | 39 | 75 | 13 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 19 | 72 | 1 | 0 |
Noelvi Marte | R | 20 | SS | 534 | 495 | 63 | 108 | 17 | 1 | 20 | 65 | 36 | 138 | 13 | 3 |
Luis Liberato | L | 26 | CF | 367 | 333 | 38 | 74 | 12 | 2 | 9 | 32 | 24 | 98 | 3 | 2 |
Zach DeLoach | L | 23 | RF | 519 | 478 | 60 | 112 | 23 | 2 | 13 | 49 | 36 | 131 | 5 | 3 |
Dillon Thomas | L | 29 | RF | 427 | 383 | 49 | 83 | 16 | 2 | 10 | 41 | 30 | 143 | 11 | 4 |
Eric Campbell | R | 35 | 3B | 293 | 260 | 32 | 59 | 12 | 0 | 5 | 27 | 27 | 64 | 3 | 2 |
Joe Rizzo | L | 24 | 3B | 505 | 469 | 56 | 104 | 19 | 1 | 12 | 49 | 29 | 126 | 2 | 3 |
Kaden Polcovich | B | 23 | 2B | 445 | 394 | 56 | 74 | 12 | 2 | 11 | 43 | 38 | 121 | 12 | 2 |
Jordan Cowan | L | 27 | SS | 411 | 374 | 39 | 84 | 13 | 1 | 4 | 23 | 31 | 85 | 12 | 3 |
Jack Larsen | L | 27 | CF | 484 | 435 | 55 | 90 | 17 | 2 | 14 | 52 | 42 | 156 | 5 | 3 |
Jake Bauers | L | 26 | 1B | 424 | 373 | 44 | 81 | 16 | 1 | 10 | 38 | 46 | 114 | 8 | 4 |
Sam Travis | R | 28 | 1B | 364 | 337 | 38 | 80 | 14 | 1 | 10 | 35 | 23 | 103 | 3 | 1 |
Patrick Frick | R | 25 | SS | 420 | 376 | 57 | 88 | 12 | 0 | 5 | 31 | 33 | 96 | 4 | 2 |
Alen Hanson | B | 29 | 2B | 208 | 194 | 21 | 42 | 6 | 2 | 4 | 17 | 10 | 46 | 6 | 2 |
Evan White | R | 26 | 1B | 341 | 316 | 36 | 67 | 11 | 1 | 13 | 42 | 21 | 104 | 2 | 1 |
Stephen Wrenn | R | 27 | LF | 400 | 362 | 44 | 72 | 14 | 3 | 8 | 33 | 27 | 132 | 17 | 4 |
Shed Long Jr. | L | 26 | LF | 332 | 301 | 35 | 66 | 13 | 2 | 9 | 33 | 27 | 97 | 5 | 2 |
Caleb Joseph | R | 36 | C | 220 | 204 | 22 | 41 | 9 | 1 | 5 | 17 | 10 | 65 | 0 | 0 |
Cade Marlowe | L | 25 | RF | 456 | 418 | 48 | 85 | 13 | 3 | 14 | 51 | 32 | 144 | 12 | 5 |
Sam Haggerty | B | 28 | LF | 282 | 248 | 32 | 49 | 10 | 2 | 4 | 18 | 28 | 90 | 14 | 3 |
Jack Reinheimer | R | 29 | SS | 363 | 330 | 40 | 69 | 10 | 1 | 4 | 24 | 24 | 88 | 12 | 3 |
Jake Scheiner | R | 26 | 1B | 480 | 437 | 52 | 95 | 18 | 2 | 16 | 55 | 30 | 138 | 2 | 4 |
Dom Thompson-Williams | L | 27 | RF | 352 | 328 | 33 | 61 | 13 | 2 | 10 | 34 | 19 | 137 | 7 | 3 |
Bobby Honeyman | L | 26 | 1B | 417 | 388 | 44 | 87 | 14 | 1 | 5 | 30 | 22 | 73 | 2 | 2 |
Cody Grosse | L | 25 | LF | 255 | 227 | 29 | 41 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 13 | 21 | 77 | 6 | 1 |
Marcus Wilson | R | 25 | LF | 441 | 389 | 49 | 72 | 14 | 2 | 13 | 36 | 44 | 178 | 10 | 3 |
Tyler Keenan | L | 23 | 3B | 313 | 276 | 30 | 48 | 10 | 0 | 6 | 22 | 21 | 126 | 0 | 1 |
Zach Vincej | R | 31 | 3B | 396 | 371 | 36 | 80 | 16 | 0 | 7 | 34 | 18 | 74 | 1 | 3 |
Cesar Izturis Jr. | B | 22 | 2B | 411 | 390 | 45 | 82 | 14 | 0 | 4 | 29 | 15 | 95 | 4 | 3 |
Dariel Gomez | L | 25 | 1B | 382 | 346 | 38 | 62 | 13 | 1 | 10 | 33 | 30 | 154 | 0 | 1 |
Connor Hoover | L | 25 | 1B | 411 | 369 | 33 | 62 | 13 | 1 | 11 | 31 | 37 | 135 | 10 | 3 |
Matt Scheffler | R | 24 | C | 259 | 237 | 30 | 44 | 6 | 0 | 6 | 24 | 17 | 76 | 1 | 1 |
Jake Anchia | R | 25 | C | 332 | 309 | 30 | 52 | 8 | 0 | 11 | 34 | 15 | 115 | 0 | 0 |
Player | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Julio Rodríguez | .282 | .341 | .465 | 123 | .184 | .341 | 6.2 | 11 | 3.3 | Austin Kearns |
Ty France | .282 | .356 | .455 | 125 | .173 | .323 | 6.1 | 0 | 3.2 | Paul Konerko |
J.P. Crawford | .260 | .329 | .379 | 98 | .120 | .311 | 4.5 | 1 | 2.6 | Leo Cardenas |
Mitch Haniger | .249 | .319 | .472 | 117 | .223 | .288 | 5.5 | 0 | 2.6 | Geronimo Berroa |
Adam Frazier | .270 | .332 | .381 | 99 | .111 | .300 | 4.6 | 3 | 2.4 | Jerry Lumpe |
Kyle Seager | .228 | .298 | .428 | 100 | .200 | .256 | 4.5 | 0 | 1.9 | Ed Sprague |
Donovan Walton | .256 | .323 | .403 | 102 | .147 | .282 | 4.5 | -1 | 1.7 | Jeff Treadway |
Abraham Toro | .243 | .320 | .390 | 98 | .148 | .276 | 4.4 | 0 | 1.7 | Luis Alicea |
Jose Marmolejos | .249 | .319 | .442 | 110 | .193 | .294 | 5.1 | 3 | 1.5 | Larry Sheets |
Kyle Lewis | .240 | .308 | .395 | 95 | .156 | .323 | 4.4 | 1 | 1.5 | Joe Vitiello |
Luis Torrens | .236 | .293 | .400 | 92 | .164 | .290 | 4.1 | -1 | 1.4 | Geronimo Gil |
Jake Fraley | .231 | .326 | .420 | 107 | .188 | .299 | 4.9 | 0 | 1.2 | Stu Pederson |
Dylan Moore | .213 | .301 | .380 | 89 | .167 | .271 | 4.1 | 1 | 1.1 | Matt Macri |
Jarred Kelenic | .229 | .297 | .432 | 101 | .202 | .272 | 4.5 | -7 | 1.1 | Paul O’Neill |
Jantzen Witte | .249 | .297 | .368 | 85 | .119 | .297 | 3.9 | 5 | 1.1 | Rich Rollins |
Tom Murphy | .212 | .293 | .388 | 89 | .176 | .284 | 3.9 | 0 | 0.9 | Kelly Stinnett |
Kevin Padlo | .197 | .275 | .361 | 76 | .164 | .268 | 3.4 | 6 | 0.8 | Ken Bonifay |
Cal Raleigh | .220 | .270 | .404 | 85 | .184 | .263 | 3.8 | -3 | 0.7 | Al Pardo |
Taylor Trammell | .200 | .287 | .350 | 77 | .149 | .276 | 3.3 | 3 | 0.6 | Dan Cholowsky |
Alberto Rodriguez | .219 | .274 | .356 | 75 | .137 | .271 | 3.4 | 11 | 0.6 | Chad Mottola |
Brian O’Keefe | .218 | .282 | .376 | 82 | .158 | .278 | 3.7 | -3 | 0.6 | Jeff Banister |
José Godoy | .239 | .288 | .344 | 76 | .105 | .292 | 3.6 | 0 | 0.5 | Roger Hansen |
Noelvi Marte | .218 | .275 | .378 | 80 | .160 | .261 | 3.7 | -6 | 0.4 | Luis Rivera |
Luis Liberato | .222 | .271 | .351 | 73 | .129 | .288 | 3.3 | 4 | 0.3 | Jason Grove |
Zach DeLoach | .234 | .295 | .372 | 85 | .138 | .296 | 3.8 | 2 | 0.3 | Otis Green |
Dillon Thomas | .217 | .293 | .347 | 79 | .131 | .317 | 3.6 | 4 | 0.3 | Mike Neill |
Eric Campbell | .227 | .305 | .331 | 79 | .104 | .283 | 3.5 | 0 | 0.2 | Jerry Royster |
Joe Rizzo | .222 | .270 | .343 | 70 | .122 | .278 | 3.1 | 5 | 0.2 | Scott Cooper |
Kaden Polcovich | .188 | .269 | .312 | 63 | .124 | .240 | 3.0 | 4 | 0.2 | Gary Miller-Jones |
Jordan Cowan | .225 | .288 | .297 | 65 | .072 | .281 | 3.1 | 0 | 0.1 | Stu Cole |
Jack Larsen | .207 | .280 | .352 | 76 | .145 | .287 | 3.3 | -2 | 0.0 | Gene Gentile |
Jake Bauers | .217 | .307 | .346 | 83 | .129 | .285 | 3.7 | 0 | -0.2 | Howard Prager |
Sam Travis | .237 | .289 | .374 | 84 | .136 | .313 | 3.9 | -1 | -0.2 | Rich Murray |
Patrick Frick | .234 | .308 | .306 | 73 | .072 | .302 | 3.3 | -7 | -0.2 | Ed Jurak |
Alen Hanson | .216 | .256 | .330 | 63 | .113 | .264 | 3.0 | 0 | -0.3 | Kevin Davis |
Evan White | .212 | .264 | .377 | 77 | .165 | .271 | 3.4 | 1 | -0.3 | Tommy Everidge |
Stephen Wrenn | .199 | .264 | .320 | 63 | .122 | .288 | 3.1 | 4 | -0.4 | Steve Martin |
Shed Long Jr. | .219 | .285 | .365 | 81 | .146 | .292 | 3.6 | -3 | -0.4 | Jeff Hermann |
Caleb Joseph | .201 | .247 | .328 | 59 | .127 | .269 | 2.7 | -2 | -0.4 | Mike Macfarlane |
Cade Marlowe | .203 | .262 | .349 | 69 | .146 | .273 | 3.2 | 4 | -0.4 | Garrick Haltiwanger |
Sam Haggerty | .198 | .286 | .302 | 65 | .105 | .292 | 3.2 | -1 | -0.5 | Mike Loggins |
Jack Reinheimer | .209 | .266 | .282 | 54 | .073 | .273 | 2.7 | -1 | -0.6 | Ray Holbert |
Jake Scheiner | .217 | .275 | .378 | 80 | .160 | .279 | 3.4 | -1 | -0.7 | Julio Vinas |
Dom Thompson-Williams | .186 | .236 | .329 | 56 | .143 | .282 | 2.6 | 3 | -1.0 | Richie Robnett |
Bobby Honeyman | .224 | .272 | .304 | 61 | .080 | .265 | 2.8 | 4 | -1.0 | Mike Wolff |
Cody Grosse | .181 | .253 | .233 | 38 | .053 | .264 | 2.1 | 2 | -1.1 | Freddie Money |
Marcus Wilson | .185 | .273 | .332 | 68 | .147 | .298 | 3.1 | -4 | -1.1 | Jim Orsag |
Tyler Keenan | .174 | .238 | .275 | 43 | .101 | .292 | 2.1 | 0 | -1.2 | Matt Whitney |
Zach Vincej | .216 | .254 | .315 | 58 | .100 | .252 | 2.6 | -4 | -1.3 | Danny Thompson |
Cesar Izturis Jr. | .210 | .242 | .277 | 45 | .067 | .268 | 2.2 | -1 | -1.6 | John Flannery |
Dariel Gomez | .179 | .249 | .309 | 55 | .130 | .286 | 2.5 | -1 | -1.6 | Ian Bladergroen |
Connor Hoover | .168 | .246 | .298 | 52 | .130 | .229 | 2.5 | -3 | -1.9 | Joe Dusan |
Matt Scheffler | .186 | .248 | .287 | 50 | .101 | .245 | 2.3 | -14 | -1.9 | Alan Probst |
Jake Anchia | .168 | .215 | .301 | 42 | .133 | .224 | 2.1 | -12 | -2.3 | Jeff Winchester |
Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | FIP |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Robbie Ray | L | 30 | 10 | 7 | 3.46 | 28 | 28 | 166.7 | 128 | 64 | 27 | 51 | 218 | 3.66 |
Chris Flexen 플렉센 | R | 27 | 9 | 9 | 4.32 | 31 | 28 | 158.3 | 164 | 76 | 23 | 42 | 121 | 4.43 |
Yusei Kikuchi | L | 31 | 8 | 8 | 4.29 | 28 | 28 | 149.0 | 144 | 71 | 21 | 51 | 147 | 4.17 |
Logan Gilbert | R | 25 | 7 | 6 | 4.18 | 26 | 26 | 125.0 | 117 | 58 | 21 | 35 | 131 | 4.25 |
Marco Gonzales | L | 30 | 9 | 9 | 4.37 | 25 | 25 | 144.0 | 142 | 70 | 22 | 38 | 110 | 4.53 |
Brandon Williamson | L | 24 | 5 | 5 | 4.16 | 20 | 20 | 97.3 | 90 | 45 | 14 | 37 | 104 | 4.18 |
Tyler Anderson | L | 32 | 7 | 8 | 4.52 | 27 | 26 | 141.3 | 140 | 71 | 25 | 36 | 126 | 4.50 |
Diego Castillo | R | 28 | 6 | 4 | 3.23 | 62 | 2 | 61.3 | 48 | 22 | 7 | 21 | 76 | 3.41 |
Matt Brash | R | 24 | 5 | 6 | 4.49 | 22 | 21 | 104.3 | 98 | 52 | 15 | 46 | 100 | 4.63 |
George Kirby | R | 24 | 4 | 4 | 4.30 | 14 | 14 | 67.0 | 67 | 32 | 10 | 20 | 58 | 4.42 |
Ryan Weber | R | 31 | 5 | 6 | 4.66 | 25 | 16 | 102.3 | 110 | 53 | 17 | 21 | 78 | 4.61 |
Penn Murfee | R | 28 | 5 | 5 | 4.54 | 27 | 15 | 83.3 | 83 | 42 | 12 | 32 | 77 | 4.54 |
Nick Margevicius | L | 26 | 6 | 7 | 4.71 | 20 | 17 | 91.7 | 97 | 48 | 14 | 26 | 74 | 4.53 |
Paul Sewald | R | 32 | 6 | 5 | 3.82 | 58 | 1 | 63.7 | 51 | 27 | 10 | 22 | 88 | 3.54 |
Justus Sheffield | L | 26 | 7 | 9 | 4.84 | 27 | 21 | 109.7 | 114 | 59 | 16 | 54 | 97 | 4.95 |
Ken Giles | R | 31 | 2 | 1 | 3.49 | 40 | 0 | 38.7 | 31 | 15 | 6 | 12 | 51 | 3.49 |
Justin Dunn | R | 26 | 4 | 5 | 4.88 | 19 | 19 | 90.3 | 83 | 49 | 16 | 44 | 92 | 5.07 |
Casey Sadler | R | 31 | 2 | 1 | 3.81 | 44 | 1 | 49.7 | 43 | 21 | 7 | 15 | 48 | 4.17 |
Logan Verrett 베렛 | R | 32 | 5 | 7 | 4.90 | 16 | 15 | 90.0 | 102 | 49 | 18 | 12 | 61 | 4.96 |
Devin Sweet | R | 25 | 5 | 6 | 4.79 | 27 | 13 | 88.3 | 93 | 47 | 16 | 28 | 78 | 4.89 |
Wyatt Mills | R | 27 | 3 | 3 | 3.94 | 37 | 1 | 48.0 | 44 | 21 | 6 | 18 | 50 | 4.03 |
Darren McCaughan | R | 26 | 5 | 7 | 5.08 | 23 | 23 | 125.7 | 139 | 71 | 25 | 24 | 89 | 5.07 |
Anthony Misiewicz | L | 27 | 6 | 7 | 4.63 | 52 | 10 | 83.7 | 86 | 43 | 15 | 23 | 80 | 4.57 |
Matt Andriese | R | 32 | 3 | 3 | 4.12 | 38 | 1 | 59.0 | 56 | 27 | 9 | 19 | 61 | 4.21 |
Emerson Hancock | R | 23 | 2 | 2 | 4.80 | 14 | 14 | 50.7 | 52 | 27 | 8 | 20 | 42 | 4.94 |
Joe Smith | R | 38 | 3 | 3 | 3.82 | 43 | 1 | 35.3 | 35 | 15 | 5 | 7 | 30 | 4.09 |
Yohan Ramirez | R | 27 | 3 | 4 | 4.50 | 37 | 5 | 64.0 | 51 | 32 | 8 | 47 | 80 | 4.74 |
Robert Dugger | R | 26 | 6 | 8 | 5.06 | 27 | 21 | 112.0 | 117 | 63 | 20 | 40 | 93 | 5.07 |
Erik Swanson | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 4.74 | 34 | 9 | 62.7 | 60 | 33 | 12 | 19 | 64 | 4.68 |
Asher Wojciechowski | R | 33 | 5 | 6 | 5.12 | 20 | 18 | 89.7 | 90 | 51 | 19 | 33 | 89 | 5.25 |
Ian McKinney | L | 27 | 5 | 7 | 5.13 | 20 | 18 | 94.7 | 94 | 54 | 15 | 49 | 87 | 5.14 |
Hector Santiago | L | 34 | 2 | 3 | 4.84 | 20 | 7 | 57.7 | 56 | 31 | 11 | 25 | 61 | 5.00 |
Collin Kober | R | 27 | 3 | 2 | 4.18 | 38 | 0 | 51.7 | 50 | 24 | 6 | 21 | 48 | 4.23 |
Sean Doolittle | L | 35 | 3 | 3 | 4.18 | 52 | 0 | 47.3 | 44 | 22 | 8 | 15 | 51 | 4.30 |
Adam Hill | R | 25 | 6 | 8 | 5.20 | 21 | 20 | 98.7 | 106 | 57 | 15 | 47 | 77 | 5.21 |
Joey Gerber | R | 25 | 2 | 2 | 4.23 | 44 | 0 | 44.7 | 41 | 21 | 6 | 22 | 46 | 4.48 |
Alejandro Requena | R | 25 | 6 | 8 | 5.17 | 23 | 16 | 92.3 | 102 | 53 | 13 | 39 | 62 | 5.10 |
Dayeison Arias | R | 25 | 2 | 2 | 4.40 | 34 | 1 | 45.0 | 41 | 22 | 7 | 19 | 50 | 4.38 |
Drew Steckenrider | R | 31 | 3 | 3 | 4.31 | 56 | 0 | 56.3 | 52 | 27 | 9 | 17 | 51 | 4.51 |
Andrés Muñoz | R | 23 | 2 | 2 | 4.37 | 24 | 1 | 22.7 | 19 | 11 | 4 | 13 | 31 | 4.59 |
Reid Morgan | R | 25 | 3 | 4 | 4.64 | 22 | 2 | 42.7 | 45 | 22 | 7 | 13 | 33 | 4.82 |
Brian Schlitter | R | 36 | 1 | 2 | 4.66 | 38 | 3 | 46.3 | 49 | 24 | 6 | 17 | 30 | 4.80 |
Fred Villarreal | R | 24 | 2 | 2 | 4.72 | 32 | 3 | 55.3 | 58 | 29 | 7 | 22 | 42 | 4.66 |
Michael Stryffeler | R | 26 | 4 | 4 | 4.38 | 43 | 0 | 39.0 | 34 | 19 | 5 | 24 | 45 | 4.54 |
Daniel Zamora | L | 29 | 3 | 3 | 4.53 | 40 | 1 | 47.7 | 45 | 24 | 8 | 21 | 50 | 4.77 |
Matt Festa | R | 29 | 2 | 3 | 4.60 | 26 | 1 | 31.3 | 31 | 16 | 5 | 13 | 30 | 4.78 |
Justin Grimm | R | 33 | 2 | 3 | 4.56 | 44 | 1 | 49.3 | 44 | 25 | 8 | 24 | 58 | 4.52 |
Aaron Fletcher | L | 26 | 3 | 3 | 4.50 | 44 | 0 | 58.0 | 60 | 29 | 8 | 20 | 47 | 4.54 |
Levi Stoudt | R | 24 | 4 | 6 | 5.40 | 16 | 16 | 81.7 | 87 | 49 | 16 | 37 | 69 | 5.54 |
Moises Gomez | R | 25 | 2 | 3 | 4.68 | 38 | 1 | 50.0 | 48 | 26 | 8 | 23 | 48 | 4.90 |
Evan Johnson | R | 25 | 2 | 2 | 5.25 | 18 | 5 | 36.0 | 34 | 21 | 5 | 25 | 36 | 5.24 |
Ben Onyshko | L | 25 | 3 | 3 | 4.72 | 33 | 1 | 55.3 | 54 | 29 | 8 | 26 | 55 | 4.64 |
David Ellingson | R | 27 | 2 | 2 | 4.59 | 35 | 0 | 51.0 | 55 | 26 | 7 | 17 | 36 | 4.73 |
Jimmy Yacabonis | R | 30 | 2 | 4 | 5.34 | 34 | 7 | 57.3 | 60 | 34 | 10 | 26 | 48 | 5.34 |
Darin Gillies | R | 29 | 2 | 3 | 5.21 | 40 | 1 | 48.3 | 49 | 28 | 10 | 21 | 48 | 5.31 |
Max Roberts | L | 24 | 0 | 1 | 6.15 | 18 | 5 | 33.7 | 36 | 23 | 6 | 23 | 27 | 6.12 |
Leon Hunter | R | 25 | 3 | 4 | 5.37 | 27 | 1 | 55.3 | 60 | 33 | 10 | 23 | 45 | 5.31 |
Nick Duron | R | 26 | 2 | 4 | 5.59 | 35 | 0 | 38.7 | 40 | 24 | 7 | 23 | 33 | 5.77 |
Player | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BB% | K% | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
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Robbie Ray | 11.8 | 2.8 | 1.5 | 7.6% | 32.4% | .271 | 121 | 83 | 3.3 | Johan Santana |
Chris Flexen | 6.9 | 2.4 | 1.3 | 6.2% | 18.0% | .292 | 96 | 104 | 1.7 | Jon Lieber |
Yusei Kikuchi | 8.9 | 3.1 | 1.3 | 8.0% | 23.1% | .298 | 97 | 103 | 1.6 | Sterling Hitchcock |
Logan Gilbert | 9.4 | 2.5 | 1.5 | 6.7% | 25.0% | .289 | 100 | 100 | 1.5 | Keith Foulke |
Marco Gonzales | 6.9 | 2.4 | 1.4 | 6.3% | 18.2% | .278 | 95 | 105 | 1.4 | Brian Anderson |
Brandon Williamson | 9.6 | 3.4 | 1.3 | 8.9% | 24.9% | .295 | 100 | 100 | 1.2 | Ted Lilly |
Tyler Anderson | 8.0 | 2.3 | 1.6 | 6.1% | 21.3% | .285 | 92 | 109 | 1.2 | Terry Mulholland |
Diego Castillo | 11.2 | 3.1 | 1.0 | 8.3% | 30.0% | .283 | 129 | 78 | 1.1 | Cecilio Guante |
Matt Brash | 8.6 | 4.0 | 1.3 | 10.1% | 21.9% | .287 | 93 | 108 | 0.9 | Gary Wex |
George Kirby | 7.8 | 2.7 | 1.3 | 7.0% | 20.3% | .292 | 97 | 103 | 0.7 | Mark Knudson |
Ryan Weber | 6.9 | 1.8 | 1.5 | 4.8% | 17.9% | .296 | 89 | 112 | 0.6 | Don Wengert |
Penn Murfee | 8.3 | 3.5 | 1.3 | 8.8% | 21.2% | .298 | 92 | 109 | 0.6 | Tim Pugh |
Nick Margevicius | 7.3 | 2.6 | 1.4 | 6.6% | 18.7% | .300 | 88 | 113 | 0.6 | Brian Shouse |
Paul Sewald | 12.4 | 3.1 | 1.4 | 8.4% | 33.7% | .293 | 109 | 92 | 0.5 | Xavier Hernandez |
Justus Sheffield | 8.0 | 4.4 | 1.3 | 10.9% | 19.6% | .304 | 86 | 116 | 0.5 | Bruce Ruffin |
Ken Giles | 11.9 | 2.8 | 1.4 | 7.6% | 32.5% | .284 | 119 | 84 | 0.4 | Justin Duchscherer |
Justin Dunn | 9.2 | 4.4 | 1.6 | 11.1% | 23.2% | .279 | 85 | 117 | 0.4 | Allen Edwards |
Casey Sadler | 8.7 | 2.7 | 1.3 | 7.2% | 23.2% | .269 | 109 | 91 | 0.4 | Bob Howry |
Logan Verrett | 6.1 | 1.2 | 1.8 | 3.1% | 16.0% | .294 | 85 | 118 | 0.4 | Brian Tollberg |
Devin Sweet | 7.9 | 2.9 | 1.6 | 7.3% | 20.3% | .298 | 87 | 115 | 0.4 | Luis Andujar |
Wyatt Mills | 9.4 | 3.4 | 1.1 | 8.7% | 24.3% | .295 | 106 | 95 | 0.3 | Barry Johnson |
Darren McCaughan | 6.4 | 1.7 | 1.8 | 4.5% | 16.6% | .291 | 82 | 122 | 0.3 | Heath Totten |
Anthony Misiewicz | 8.6 | 2.5 | 1.6 | 6.4% | 22.3% | .301 | 90 | 111 | 0.3 | Bryan Ward |
Matt Andriese | 9.3 | 2.9 | 1.4 | 7.6% | 24.3% | .296 | 101 | 99 | 0.3 | Jay Howell |
Emerson Hancock | 7.5 | 3.6 | 1.4 | 9.0% | 18.8% | .293 | 87 | 115 | 0.3 | Jerome Gamble |
Joe Smith | 7.6 | 1.8 | 1.3 | 4.8% | 20.4% | .291 | 109 | 92 | 0.3 | Dick Hall |
Yohan Ramirez | 11.3 | 6.6 | 1.1 | 16.2% | 27.5% | .285 | 93 | 108 | 0.2 | John D’Acquisto |
Robert Dugger | 7.5 | 3.2 | 1.6 | 8.1% | 18.9% | .292 | 82 | 122 | 0.2 | Ismael Ramirez |
Erik Swanson | 9.2 | 2.7 | 1.7 | 7.1% | 24.1% | .286 | 88 | 114 | 0.2 | Mike Burns |
Asher Wojciechowski | 8.9 | 3.3 | 1.9 | 8.4% | 22.7% | .290 | 81 | 123 | 0.2 | Mike Gardiner |
Ian McKinney | 8.3 | 4.7 | 1.4 | 11.5% | 20.4% | .294 | 81 | 123 | 0.2 | Ray Hayward |
Hector Santiago | 9.5 | 3.9 | 1.7 | 9.9% | 24.1% | .294 | 86 | 116 | 0.2 | Glendon Rusch |
Collin Kober | 8.4 | 3.7 | 1.0 | 9.3% | 21.3% | .299 | 100 | 100 | 0.1 | Mark Lee |
Sean Doolittle | 9.7 | 2.9 | 1.5 | 7.5% | 25.5% | .290 | 100 | 100 | 0.1 | Rheal Cormier |
Adam Hill | 7.0 | 4.3 | 1.4 | 10.5% | 17.2% | .300 | 80 | 125 | 0.1 | Ken Ray 레이 |
Joey Gerber | 9.3 | 4.4 | 1.2 | 11.2% | 23.5% | .292 | 98 | 102 | 0.1 | Scott Gentile |
Alejandro Requena | 6.0 | 3.8 | 1.3 | 9.4% | 14.9% | .300 | 81 | 124 | 0.1 | Bill Swift |
Dayeison Arias | 10.0 | 3.8 | 1.4 | 9.8% | 25.8% | .293 | 95 | 106 | 0.1 | Barry Jones |
Drew Steckenrider | 8.1 | 2.7 | 1.4 | 7.2% | 21.5% | .274 | 97 | 104 | 0.1 | Lance Carter |
Andrés Muñoz | 12.3 | 5.2 | 1.6 | 13.0% | 31.0% | .294 | 95 | 105 | 0.1 | Armando Benitez |
Reid Morgan | 7.0 | 2.7 | 1.5 | 7.0% | 17.8% | .292 | 90 | 111 | 0.1 | Joe Roa |
Brian Schlitter | 5.8 | 3.3 | 1.2 | 8.4% | 14.8% | .291 | 89 | 112 | 0.0 | Fred Gladding |
Fred Villarreal | 6.8 | 3.6 | 1.1 | 9.0% | 17.1% | .298 | 88 | 113 | 0.0 | Rocky Childress |
Michael Stryffeler | 10.4 | 5.5 | 1.2 | 13.7% | 25.7% | .293 | 95 | 105 | 0.0 | Jim Stoops |
Daniel Zamora | 9.4 | 4.0 | 1.5 | 10.0% | 23.9% | .291 | 92 | 109 | 0.0 | Wayne Franklin |
Matthew Festa | 8.6 | 3.7 | 1.4 | 9.4% | 21.7% | .295 | 91 | 110 | 0.0 | Jesus Colome |
Justin Grimm | 10.6 | 4.4 | 1.5 | 11.2% | 27.0% | .293 | 91 | 110 | 0.0 | Juan Eichelberger |
Aaron Fletcher | 7.3 | 3.1 | 1.2 | 7.9% | 18.6% | .297 | 93 | 108 | 0.0 | Ryan Meaux |
Levi Stoudt | 7.6 | 4.1 | 1.8 | 10.1% | 18.8% | .295 | 77 | 130 | -0.1 | Rich DeLucia |
Moises Gomez | 8.6 | 4.1 | 1.4 | 10.4% | 21.7% | .288 | 89 | 112 | -0.1 | Brandon Kolb |
Evan Johnson | 9.0 | 6.3 | 1.3 | 15.0% | 21.6% | .293 | 79 | 126 | -0.1 | Tim Meeks |
Ben Onyshko | 8.9 | 4.2 | 1.3 | 10.6% | 22.4% | .301 | 88 | 113 | -0.1 | Joe Klink |
David Ellingson | 6.4 | 3.0 | 1.2 | 7.6% | 16.1% | .298 | 91 | 110 | -0.1 | Justin Huisman |
Jimmy Yacabonis | 7.5 | 4.1 | 1.6 | 10.1% | 18.6% | .294 | 78 | 128 | -0.2 | Mike Villano |
Darin Gillies | 8.9 | 3.9 | 1.9 | 9.8% | 22.4% | .293 | 80 | 125 | -0.4 | Julio Manon |
Max Roberts | 7.2 | 6.1 | 1.6 | 14.5% | 17.0% | .297 | 68 | 148 | -0.4 | Jason Norderum |
Leon Hunter | 7.3 | 3.7 | 1.6 | 9.3% | 18.1% | .299 | 78 | 129 | -0.5 | Jim Brink |
Nick Duron | 7.7 | 5.4 | 1.6 | 12.9% | 18.5% | .292 | 75 | 134 | -0.5 | Rick Greene |
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Paul O’Neill a pretty nice comp for Kelenic considering his stats were cratered by rushing him to the majors last year.
I thought Kelenic’s call up was delayed to get an extra year of service time?
I remember someone making that argument but forget exactly who did it. My guess is that whoever made it is very happy that at least some of us have forgotten about it.
That was the claim, and because some imprudent comments were made by Mariners brass, it actually likely caused him to be called up sooner, but the reality is Kelenic was called up with only 21 games of AA experience and 6 games of AAA experience.
Julio Rodriguez, who is also on the fast track, by comparison, already has 46 games of AA experience.
I think it’s not entirely fair to cite the number of official games without the context. The pandemic wiped out what would have been a season of aa/aaa, maybe some mlb ball. There was almost 2 years between him making double a and playing in triple a. But it’s not like he was laying on the couch eating bon bons during that time. He was at the alternate site getting at bats and playing games with other members of the 60 man roster in 2020, which was made up mostly of high level minor leaguers. Even if you don’t credit that exactly the same as playing all those games at triple a, he had a lot going on besides just the 6 games. And of course, there’s a level of subjective scouting of whether a player is ready, and I think the determination was later confirmed by the fact that he absolutely murdered triple a whenever he played there.
Experience makes you ready, not age. accordingly, missing a year should delay a call up
Rushed to the majors? Nah dude, he was crushing Triple A and we were all making fun of Seattle for holding him down to work on his defense.
He had played a total of 6 games at AAA when he was called up.
Ok, but due to the pandemic, those games were more than 1.5 years after he reached double a. And then he went back down and smushed triple a again because he was overqualified for triple a. Whatever his issues with the majors, I don’t see any basis for saying he was rushed.
There are tons of guys who smash Triple A and aren’t ready for the majors. I don’t see why it is that controversial to say that a guy called up with 27 games of upper minors experience was rushed.
I mean, there are outliers like Soto, but typically even top hitting prospects have close to a full year in the upper minors before being called up.
It’s controversial to say he was rushed because the Mariners went on the record saying they intended to manipulate his service time, suggesting that they saw him as MLB-ready and were only keeping him down until the clock turned over. That’s the opposite of a team “rushing” someone they knew to be unready. It’s further corroborated by Kelenic’s own account that they offered to call him up in 2020 if he signed an extension. The Mariners FO clearly, subjectively believed that he was MLB-ready as early as 2020. The fact that he faceplanted when called up just means they were wrong in that belief, not that they didn’t believe it in the first place.
I understand that, and it seems clear that at least some people in the Mariners FO thought he was ready. But on the other hand, it is hard to find many top hitting prospects who are called up with less than 27 games of upper minors experience. Heck, even Bryce Harper (58 games) and Mike Trout (111 games) had a lot more. Soto had less. But he is a major outlier, and Kelenic is not on the uberprospect level with any of those three guys.
He was TERRIBLE, and the whole reason to call him up is if he is going to be good. The Mariners made the correct decision to wait.
Only Kelenic, or his agent would want a few months of a .150 hitter than a full season on Kelenic 5-6 years from now. Such a consistently stupid argument. WHY would they do that? Charity and good will? He stunk for three months straight. Like, one of the very worst players in baseball.
Same, resent this whole thing of fans arguing for *more* MiLB time to a guy with Kelenic’s baseball resume both pro and amateur. Boo hoo, he didn’t put up fancy stats as a rookie immediately “after” covid with SafeCo as the home park to make you seem like a fantasy genius…I really hate even the idea of it, he’s going to be fine and it’s mostly a passive plot for manufacturing a manageable timeline with maximum [cost] certainty because money is involved…It’s rotten at the core, but because roster management for the always coming never here Future is all the rage seems clever and appealing rather than basic and at least maybe limiting…The earlier you get these kind of talents up the better. That he didn’t get some arbitrary amount of upper minors PAs is mostly made up, especially in this era of teams running through so many players and putting so much Value in option years
It’s better for the player to come up earlier, but the team has to decide if it’s better for them. The reason why some teams have to say “He needs more AAA time” is because agents and fans have made it so the team can’t just plainly say “We don’t want to trade three months of Kelenic hitting .150 at age 21, for a WHOLE SEASON of Kelenic hitting .278 with 28 bombs, 25 steals, and 75 walks at age 26. That would be silly, and y’all are silly for suggesting it.”
People act like everyone is supposed to act in favor of their own best interests, except management of baseball teams. Why?
I would make the argument that there is no manipulation going on, just easy decisions.