A Hypothetical Pitching All-Star Ballot

The All-Star Game ballot is no longer available in paper form. This comes to the chagrin of many, but probably didn’t really bother the vast majority of the baseball watching population. The paper ballot certainly had its limitations, and space was chief among them. There simply isn’t much room on the paper ballot, and often you had to squint to read the names, which is all the more difficult on a sunny day when you’re consuming some frosty beverages. Now that baseball has done away with the paper ballot though, it raises the following question:

Joe often comes up with good questions around MLB’s big events, and this was no exception. Given that there is no limit to how long the ballot can be online, and given how slick MLB’s online ballot actually is, there really doesn’t seem like much reason to keep pitchers off the ballot. For one thing, you’d be doing the managers a big favor, as the fans would be doing a lot of the work for them. There will still inevitably be pitchers who start on the Sunday before the game and are thus removed from the proceedings (side note: this bugs me when teams do this, though there really isn’t a good fix for it), not to mention normal injuires, so the managers won’t have their voting power completely stripped away. Still, this would alleviate some of their burden. There’s a chance that it could simply focus their pain on one or two decisions when crappy teams are involved and you need to pick an All-Star, any All-Star from said crappy team, but that seems like a risk worth taking to give fans more of a say.

We don’t get to do anything sort of official, but I thought we could have some fun with this, so I thought we’d set up a vote for you, the people. Just how many pitchers should fans be allowed to vote for? On the one hand, you don’t want to bog down the voters, or they may not complete their ballot. No current position on the ballot asks them to go more than three votes deep, and that position — the outfield — has always been the biggest chore for me as a voter. Perhaps it would be best to keep things simple and just go with three starters, one reliever. But for the sake of argument, let’s take a look at how many pitchers have been used in recent All-Star Games:

# Pitchers Used in All-Star Game, 2010-2014
Year AL SP AL RP NL SP NL RP
2014 6 5 4 6
2013 4 6 5 3
2012 5 4 7 4
2011 4 5 4 6
2010 6 4 4 5
Average 5.0 4.8 4.8 4.8

Roughly 10 pitchers per team, so let’s bump that starting pitcher tally to five. Still, I can’t shake the feeling that most fans will want to select five relief pitchers on a ballot, so let’s keep it at three. Perhaps the smaller number will even inspire the managers to use fewer of them in the actual game.

We’re not just dealing in hypotheticals though, let’s actually do this thing. I know that the ballots are decided at the beginning of the season, but it seems silly to not use the information we have at hand, and the games played thus far this season are certainly useful information. While the ballot will ask you to pick five starters, we’ll only list three per team, because what team has five good starting pitchers? How many have three? Going through the list of qualified starters team by team, you find that many teams only have three qualified starting pitchers, and sometimes the third is someone like Jeremy Guthrie.

We’ll start with the AL. If there was one tough omission, it was Danny Salazar. Maybe Anibal Sanchez. Some kind of constraint was necessary to determine eligibility for this exercise, though — and, otherwise, the putting together the ballots was pretty straightforward. Note, there is no way to prevent you from checking more than five boxes, so you’re officially on the honor system. Don’t let me down:

And now for the NL.

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Here, it was hard leaving Carlos Martinez off, as well as Kyle Hendricks and Jon Niese. And Stephen Strasburg I guess, though he isn’t a qualified pitcher (the answer to all of your questions about why Player X was left off is “he’s not a qualified pitcher.”). Also, two teams didn’t even have three qualified starters — the Marlins and Rockies. So with them, I made an exception and just listed Jose Fernandez and Jorge De La Rosa, respectively.

I’m actually going to stop here. If there’s demand for reliever ballots, I will create those next week over at InstaGraphs. Until then, happy voting. Perhaps next year we’ll be able to do it for real. It would be lots of fun. Imagine a team with a dominant rotation like the 70’s Orioles sweeping the starting pitcher ballot, or just having the ability to try and wash marginal All-Stars from the game. That’d be nice too. Either way, it’s time.





Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.

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Well-Beered Englishman
11 years ago

I can’t believe I just voted for Bartolo Colon.

A couple of nights ago, the Cubs broadcasters suggested, “There should eb a Home Run Derby just for pitchers.” Not only is this an amusing idea, but Bartolo Colon participating in a home run derby would, I think, be the single best baseball moment since Disco Demolition.

joser
11 years ago

And I can’t believe I just voted for Aaron Harang.

Wildcard09
11 years ago

I think Colon has to be an automatic all-star, whether he’s terrible or not. Just the fact that he can take the mound at all is amazing, let alone watching him swing.

Pro Golfer Nacho Elvira
11 years ago

Bartolo Colon is two years older than Jeff Suppan.

Phillies113
11 years ago

AL
Corey Kluber
Felix Hernandez
Chris Archer
Dallas Keuchel
Sonny Gray

NL
Madison Bumgarner
Clayton Kershaw
Max Scherzer
Gerrit Cole
Johnny Cueto

My overall strategy was voting for “good, young, and entertaining.” I orginally had Zack Greinke where Madison Bumgarner is in the NL, but then I realized people would be more entertained by seeing last year’s World Series hero than Greinke.

MikeS
11 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

Those are good choices, but how does Good + Young + Entertaining =/= Chris Sale?

Phillies113
11 years ago
Reply to  MikeS

When your choices are limited to only 5. Sale is a beast, and I’d love to see him at the game.

macdemarco
11 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

AL
Felix Hernandez
Sonny Gray
Chris Archer
Dallas Keuchel
Jake Odorizzi

NL
Max Scherzer
Aaron Harang
Shelby Miller
Zach Greinke
AJ Burnett

Lanidrac
11 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

And this is what is wrong with some All-Star voters. You’re supposed to vote for guys having the best year, not based on phony reasons like name recognition, previous years’ accomplishments, or promising youngsters who haven’t yet reached their full potential.

Part of the problem is that there’s no easy way to see everyone’s stats like on MLB’s official online ballot, but it’s just unreasonable to see big-name guys having only decent years like Kershaw and Bumgarner ahead of better 2015 performers like Wacha and Colon.

saltyslick
11 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

We as fans aren’t “supposed” to do anything. Voters vote based on who they want to watch play baseball, and name recognition, previous accomplishments, and major hype bring entertainment to a game that is only there for entertainment.

Jianadaren
11 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

No you’re not. You’re supposed to vote for the biggest stars of the game. It’s the All-Star game, not the One-Season Wonder show.

Darkstone42
11 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

If I can my ballot entirely by to-date performance today, it would look different than if I waited a week to do it. (Well, with pitchers maybe two weeks.)

Using past performance to predict future performance (i.e. who will be having the best season by the time the All-Star game arrives *or* by the end of the season, as your criteria may be) is a perfectly valid approach.

Kershaw has been dominant for years, best pitcher in the game good. Why shouldn’t the voter vote for him, knowing full well he’s fully capable of going on some dominant no-runs-in-40-innings run or something? There’s a very good chance he recovers his season to be one of the five best in the NL by the break and be in the Cy Young race at the year’s end. In fact, I expect it to happen.

So for me, yeah, I’ll look for the folks having the best seasons, but without some track record, I cannot vote for them because there’s nothing to say they won’t fall apart before the Midsummer Classic. Conversely, an elite player having a meh year has the track record to suggest he may explode with production.

Lanidrac
11 years ago
Reply to  Darkstone42

It’s always been a reward for the players having the best year. Kershaw is simply not one of those players at this point. Who knows if he’ll have a better second half, but right now he’s just not one of the best pitchers in baseball.

Yes, it would be better to wait until near the deadline to cast your votes (as I always do), but this article was posted now, so that’s all we’ve got to work with.

Poppymelt
11 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

I vote for who i think would make the best team out there, AJ Burnett might be having a great year but the team will be a lot better with Kershaw pitching even if he isn’t having as good of a year.

B Harter
11 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

It looks like your votes are based on 2015 projected stats as opposed to 2015 results to date. How does one’s ballot not include Michael Wacha?

It appears that Kershaw’s 2014 was so good that it resulted in some leftover 2015 All-Star votes. Let’s not reward the guy for past seasons. He is a very good pitcher but there are more deserving pitchers so far this season.

drewcorbMember since 2026
11 years ago
Reply to  B Harter

I think his AL pitchers are in line with 2015 success. In the NL guys like Kershaw, Bumgarner, and Cueto haven’t earned it over a number of other pitchers having good years.

stevenam
11 years ago
Reply to  Phillies113

To leave deGromm and Harvey off the list, particularly given your criteria, is sheer lunacy.

Wildcard09
11 years ago

Well, that’s the first time I’ve ever “voted” for the all-star game.

Declan
11 years ago

This is way harder than I thought it would be

Rob
11 years ago

My voting theory was to follow WHIP. The fewer baserunners a pitcher allows, the fewer runs they allow.

Going by strict WHIP gives us:

AL: Felix, Keuchel, Odorizza, Archer, Gray
NL: Greinke, Scherzer, Shelby, Hammel, Cueto

Seems like this approach produced a fair list. I’d consider replacing Hammel with Harang or Wacha, but it doesn’t seem like a big deal either way.

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Rob

1 – Allowing fewer baserunners does not necessarily mean you’ll allow fewer runs. WHIP considers a HR to be the same as a single.

2 – If your ultimate goal is to look for pitchers who give up the fewest runs, then why not go directly to the source and sort by ERA?

BipMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

2: i guess if the idea to go to something more predictive and less fluky than ERA, except that WHIP is definitely not that.

WHIP is a weird one. It’s something that I’ve seen non-stat people present as a “new stat”, and even accept to some degree, except that its flaws are obvious and no stat people actually use it.

Jianadaren
11 years ago
Reply to  Bip

WHIP is like opponent’s OBP except per inning instead of per PA. In that sense it’s not *terrible* – if I’m looking the minimize the chance of a big inning, I’m probably going for the low-WHIP guy, but there are better things out there.

Timbooya
11 years ago

AL:
Corey Kluber
King Felix
Chris Archer
Chris Sale
Dallas Keuchel

NL:
Jake Arrieta
Madison Bumgarner
Max Scherzer
Matt Harvey
Tim Lincecum

My main criteria were stats that the average type of fan who watches the all star game would understand – wins and era. I’d rather have Kershaw there and cite FIP, k/9, etc. etc. but the majority of the fairweather fans who soak up the all star gam antics don’t understand saber metrics and wouldn’t understand how a 3-5, 4.3 era guy was an all star. Maybe one day they will… A man can dream, can’t he?

Travis
11 years ago
Reply to  Timbooya

If you’re just going by wins and ERA, why no Shelby Miller?

TKDC
11 years ago
Reply to  Travis

Or Michael Wacha?

buctober 2015
11 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

or AJ Burnett?

Timbooya
11 years ago
Reply to  Travis

Not enough ballot spots… For once I had a problem of too many players to pick from (and I’m a Giants fan, so I’m a bit partial to supposed career-recoveries on my team). If I had more room:

Shelby Miller
Zack Greinke (Honestly he should have been on there instead of Timmy)
Cole Hamels
AJ Burnett
Gerrit Cole

TKDC
11 years ago

All of my guys were in the top 7 in their league (at the time I voted) except Jose Fernandez. He was, to me, the most “must see” pitcher in the game before he was hurt and he will likely be coming back just before the all-star game.

Schide
11 years ago

NL
Greinke
Scherzer
Harang(!)
Cole
Burnett

AL:
Keuchel
Gray
Hernandez
Archer
Odorizzi

Just did quick glance at WAR+RA9-WAR and went with what looked right. Now let’s do it again in a month when it will mean a little more.

stephen
11 years ago
Reply to  Schide

My strategy and results matched yours completely.

buctober 2015
11 years ago

NL
Scherzer
Kershaw
Arrieta
Cole
Burnett

AL
Kluber
Felix
Dallas
Sale
Gray

2014 National Champions
11 years ago

AL: Felix, Kluber, Sale, Sonny & Price

NL: Scherzer, Greinke, Kershaw, Cueto & Harvey

Not necessarily who deserves it the most but more how much I enjoy watching these guys pitch

Death To Flying Things
11 years ago

I guess that means you haven’t seen Dallas Keuchel. I find complete game four-hit shutouts with 11 Ks entertaining, for example. And we haven’t even talked about the beard.

Death To Flying Things
11 years ago

And if you enjoy watching pitchers who field their position like a middle infielder, in the tradition of Greg Maddux, I heartily recommend the Keuchel experience.

Kyle Gisser
11 years ago

Keuchel is having a great season, but he does not fit the “excitement” list.

With his rate stats if he pitched to 6 hitters, he’d get 1 Ks, 4 GBs, and a single.

People aren’t headed to Great American Launching Pad to watch Todd Frazier, Paul Goldschmidt, Bryce Harper and Giancarlo Stanton roll over balls to Marcus Semien and Dustin Pedroia.

stevenam
11 years ago

Better than Keuchel, deGromm is a bona fide ss with the glove. He’s clearly a top 5 SP in the NL. Easily.

KonoldoMember since 2020
11 years ago

I think the obvious answer to how many pitchers to vote for is 1. Vote for the starting pitcher to start the all-star game just like every other position. If the pitcher ends up being unavailable for the all-star game, then it is up to the manager’s discretion who starts just like for position players.

TKDC
11 years ago
Reply to  Konoldo

Well, I think you’re wrong, and I know it isn’t obvious, or someone in the first 25 comments would have said it. Each team has one starter at each position, and five starting pitchers. I’d argue each team really has four starting pitchers and a fifth starter. I’d make it four starters and one reliever.

But there obviously isn’t a right and wrong answer to a totally made up voting exercise and picking one guy wouldn’t be as much fun.

Urban Shocker
11 years ago

Voted for Collmenter. What’s the point of voting if you can’t have fun?

reds19
11 years ago

Went with:
AL: Hernandez, Keuchel, Kluber, Gray, Archer
NL: Miller, Scherzer, Greinke, Harvey, Cueto

is this a joke?
11 years ago

All these Corey Kluber-less ballots in comments seem insane to me…

TKDC
11 years ago

I agree. I think you have to automatically include the reigning Cy Young award winner, especially since he deserved to win it.

is this a joke?
11 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Not to mention, he’s even improved his xFIP and K% since then. And also has one of the best games in years in the books.

Phillies113
11 years ago

Not to mention the disturbing number of ballots that include Harang.

Pat's Bat
11 years ago

AL is pretty straightforward. The star quality and pitchers having breakout seasons falls off quickly after King Felix, Gray, Keuchel, Archer, and Kluber.

NL has a lot more worthy choices. I voted Scherzer, Cueto, Greinke, Cole. Bumgarner was my fifth pick because while he and Kershaw have the biggest star power of anyone on either list, Bumgarner is having a better season. Also, duck the Fodgers.

My echo and bunnymen
11 years ago
Reply to  Pat's Bat

Better season by ERA and HR/9? Not much else though. Bumgarner is probably the most overrated pitcher in baseball.

Pat's Bat
11 years ago

What year’s stats are you looking at? Bumgarner has a better WHIP and significantly fewer walks. (More wins too if anyone still cares.) He’s actually allowed one more home run than Kershaw.

Sounds like someone has World Champion envy.

Paul
11 years ago
Reply to  Pat's Bat

Sounds like some (i.e., Pat’s Bat) is a troll or … a troll.

stevenam
11 years ago
Reply to  Pat's Bat

Harvey is better than either.

Grant
11 years ago
Reply to  Pat's Bat

Maybe not so straight forward if you can look past ERA. A couple of other pitchers have been better than Keuchel, most notably Michael Pineda with his absurd K/BB.

Harold Reynolds
11 years ago

How is James Shields not #1 on every list?!?! He’s 6-0 people!

Well-Beered Englishman
11 years ago

On the Washington Nationals Fan Forum there’s a troll arguing that Michael Wacha will start the ASG, not Scherzer, because Wacha has 7 wins.

B Harter
11 years ago

It doesn’t surprise me to hear that. Nats fans have a Cardinals complex. If any team fan base has an innate fear of another team it is the Nats fans with the Cardinals. The only way Scherzer doesn’t start the ASG is if he pitches the Saturday/Sunday prior to the game.

steve berlin
11 years ago

Voted for:
AL: King Felix, Michael Pineda, Sonny Gray, Corey Kluber, Jake Odorizzi (Odorizzi’s quietly having a great year for the Rays) (also tough to leave out Dallas Keuchel, but I think his stats will fade somewhat from now till the break)

NL: Gerrit Cole, Matt Harvey, Max Scherzer, Zack Greinke, Jacob deGrom (It was between deGrom & Burnett, but I went with deGrom on the fact that I think he’ll be better from not up until the all star break, despite Burnett’s dominance so far)

There are a lot of other very very good pitchers who’ve had great performances so far that i had to leave out too (Michael Wacha, Kershaw, Shelby Miller, Burnett, Bumgarner in NL…….Keuchel, Archer, Sale, in AL)…very tough calls all around

wataboat
11 years ago

Voted for
AL:
Pineda, Archer, Kluber, Odorizzi, Salazar

NL:
Scherzer, Cole ,Arrieta, Harvey, Kershaw

Sonny Gray and DeGrom were probably the two hardest to snub.

wataboat
11 years ago
Reply to  wataboat

Actually posted this before voting and noticed Salazar wasn’t on the list replaced him with Sonny Gray. Salazar obviously becomes snub of snubs then.

Cory
11 years ago
Reply to  wataboat

How on earth can you leave Felix off of your ballot?

drewcorbMember since 2026
11 years ago
Reply to  wataboat

I’d go Gray over Salazar just on the difference in IP between the two. I think Salazar will be really good but I’d be much more impressed with his Ks if he could rack them up while actually getting deep into games.

bearproofsuit
11 years ago
Reply to  wataboat

So Felix didn’t even warrant an honorable mention? this ballot is invalid

WALDAN
11 years ago

AL
King Felix
Mike Pin-k-eda
Cory Kluber
Chris Sale
Dallas Keuchall

NL
Kersh-awe
King Cueto (each league should have a king)
Matt Harvey, the heir apparent
Gerrit Cole
And the ever-young Bartolo Colon

My relief ballot which I would love to see

AL
Dellin Betances
Greg Holland
Andrew Miller

NL
Storen
Cassilla
And the Reds amzing guy whose name alludes me

WonderKid
11 years ago
Reply to  WALDAN

Mad Max in DC would politely disagree

Yinka Double Dare
11 years ago

AL I started with the three best pitchers in the league: Felix, Kluber and Sale, all of whom are doing their thing again this year. From there I took a look at the leaderboards and went with Kuechel and Gray.

NL: Started of course with Kershaw. Scherzer is a no-brainer too. From there I went with Arrieta (who did this last year too), Grienke and Cole for the new guy. Cole could have been a variety of other options.

Go Nats
11 years ago

Chris sale only just got his era to be less than 4 in his last start (3.66). A high 3s era is not usually his thing! but otherwise mehhh!

Phil
11 years ago

The way I looked at it was if you were an fan with rooting interest for a particular side, which 5 pitchers would you least want to face?

NL:
Scherzer
Kershaw
Harvey
Bumgarner
Cole

AL:
Felix
Kluber
Sale
Archer
Pineda

BipMember since 2016
11 years ago

Here’s what I voted for off the top of my head, not wanting to influence my decision with the WAR leaderboard:

** AL: **
Kluber
Felix
Carrasco
Pineda
Archer

** NL: **
Kershaw
Scherzer
Cole
Bumgarner
Cueto

Here are the ones I feel like an idiot for leaving off, now that I’ve looked at the leaderboards:

Arrieta
Keuchel

The others I feel I could defend leaving out, even if I’d be wrong.

In my head, I feel like the weighting goes something like this:

50% xFIP/SIERA – even though it’s technically a predictor, I only want to vote for guys if what they’re doing look sustainable. This can be replaced by track record of beating these numbers, like for Cueto
10% FIP – Mostly covered by xFIP
25% ERA – Still should get credit for good, old-fashioned run prevention
15% NERD – My own personal, proprietary NERD score, which is effectively just how interesting I find them.

BipMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  Bip

Also should note that I really wanted to vote for Salazar

BDF
11 years ago
Reply to  Bip

You should *definitely* note that.

Lanidrac
11 years ago

You know, this is the All-Star team, not the All-Sabermetrics team. Players should be rewarded for their actual performances regardless of how lucky they may have been, not to mention that some pitchers do have the skill to consistently outpitch their peripherals. That being said, I find it ridiculous that not one person in these comments has included Michael Wacha among their listed votes. Even ignoring his stellar W/L record, 1.87 ERA starting pitchers don’t grow on trees, people!

TKDC
11 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

If I listed 5 guys based on ERA and IPs and nothing else, Wacha wouldn’t be on it. There are 4 guys with lower ERA and more innings and Harang has 8 more innings and his ERA is only .06 higher.

The only argument for Wacha is his W/L record, and that don’t play well ’round these parts of the interwebz.

Lanidrac
11 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Wins and losses are a better part of it than IP. At this point, someone could miss just one or two starts to a minor ailment and be at huge disadvantage in IP, and it’s not that impressive of a stat to begin with.

Ks, BBs, and WHIP should also be looked at, probably more than Wins and Losses. Before he gave up 4 runs in 5 & 2/3 the other night (after this article was posted), Wacha certainly was one of the five best pitchers in the NL with his 1.87 ERA, 7-0 record, outstanding WHIP, and career low BB% to help make up for his mediocre K total.

Go Nats
11 years ago

I just looked up the 5 fWAR Leaders that are pitchers in each league and voted for them! I am aghast of any regular reader who used a different philosophy!

Maximus21
11 years ago

My AL Ballot: Pineda, Gray, Kluber, Felix, Sale.
NL Ballot: Kershaw, Cole, Arrieta, Bumgarner, Scherzer.

OrangeJoos
11 years ago

AL:

1) Hernandez
2) Kluber
3) Keuchel
4) Gray
5) Sale

NL:

1) Scherzer
2) Wacha
3) Cole
4) Miller
5) Madbum

Rich Rieders
11 years ago

Your ballot did not include Hector Santiago who is 6th in the AL in ERA, 6th in RA9-WAR, 20th in fWAR and 11th in WPA. I wouldn’t put him in my top 5, but he deserves consideration for sure.

BubbaNoTrubba
11 years ago

This poll really shows how much better the pitching is at the moment in the NL.

…or is it a result of the no-DH? And somewhat more hitting friendly parks in general in the AL?

I think it’s a bit of both.

The talent pool seems a little higher among NL pitchers right now. But I think at least some has to do with the AL being more hitting friendly.

What’s your opinions?

jdbolickMember since 2024
11 years ago

I went by performance over the last calendar year. It’s kind of silly that only the first half of the season ever matters for All-Star appearances.

Lanidrac
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

That’s a legitimate strategy if you have the time to find and look at all those stats. “Sports Weekly” annually posts an All-Star team based on that very criterion.

So who got your votes based on that? I imagine Shelby Miller for one still looks very good after he improved significantly in the second half last year.

Philly Cheesesteak, hold the cheese, hold the steak
11 years ago

I have to wonder how different exercises like this would be if the ASG was played as an exhibition game at the end of Spring Training, and All-Star voting was conducted between the final out of the regular season and the first pitch of the divisional series.

WhatLeylandNoooo
11 years ago

AL: Felix Hernandez; Sonny Gray; Garrett Richards; Nate Karns; Chris Archer
NL: Max Scherzer; Cole Hamels; Zack Greinke; Shelby Miller; James Shields

My main voting process was how much contact hitters can get on a pitcher and how hard is that contact without negatively affecting those who throw harder (resulting in harder contact when/if made).

Trev
11 years ago

Next go around, could you add team to the ballot Paul?

e.g. “R.A. Dickey (TOR)”

Lucas A.
11 years ago

AL ballot was Pineda, Hernandez, Keuchel, Gray, Kluber

Brian
11 years ago

Danny Salazar is going to win the Cy Young and you can’t even vote for him smh.

TKDC
11 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Can I have some of your drugs?

libradawg
11 years ago

Okay, Mr. Skipper, you just made Game 7 of the World Series, that’s the good news. The bad news is you lost your scheduled starter. The great news is you get to choose between Kershaw and Wacha.

And that is why one guy is being taken over the other. Not a single person in here making ridiculous arguments wouldn’t choose Kershaw before strutting away laughing at such a foolish question. Even if we chased you down citing Wacha’s 2013 NL playoff success, you would keep walking the other direction, possibly flashing the bird in the process.

Debate semantics of All Star all you want. This is what defines who makes the game, and who makes the game great.

Kyle Gisser
11 years ago
Reply to  libradawg

By your standards David Ortiz should be an All-Star this season over Prince Fielder.

If I am playing in Game 7 of the World Series and need to pinch hit a lefty against a right handed closer in a 1 run game with a man on base and I have Ortiz or Fielder. I’m going to choose Ortiz because he was better in 2014 and 2013.

Lanidrac
11 years ago
Reply to  libradawg

If this hypothetical Game 7 were being played the next time both pitchers were fully rested, and the opposing lineup had very similar R/L splits, I would indeed choose Wacha, as he’s simply the better pitcher right now. Once Kershaw shows he’s back in Cy Young form, only then can he earn that start.

Ken "Hawk" Harrelson
11 years ago

I’m votin’ Sale, Quintana, and Samardzija. Woulda voted John Danks, but it’s total BS he ain’t on this ballot, so I guess I gotta go for Mark Buehrle.

5th spot I’m leavin’ blank for Yaz, who was probably one of if not the best “woulda been a great pitcher if he felt like pitchin” guys I ever saw.

Mike
11 years ago

Hawk may be a big-time homer, but half the words he says are kowtows to the opponent.

Jason B
11 years ago

Needs more Ron Kittle.

Kyle Gisser
11 years ago

This article and the comments, have proven exactly why if the game should count for something the fans shouldn’t be able to vote 35 times a day from each e-mail account they’ve created.

Lanidrac
11 years ago
Reply to  Kyle Gisser

If the game truly counted, the best hitters should play as much as possible outside of things like strategic pinch-hitting/running opportunities and late-inning defensive replacements, while inferior starters (like Jeter a couple years ago) are replaced after the first inning. It’s one of Selig’s rare screwups (although not the only one, i.e. lax enforcement of performance enhancing drugs for over a decade after they were first made illegal, or the lame one game play-in we now have).

DBRunsMember since 2025
11 years ago

Votting by Ottoneu points (in order):

AL
Dallas Keuchel
Corey Kluber
Sonny Gray
Chris Archer
Felix Hernandez
Just missed: Jake Odorizzi

NL
Max Scherzer
Aaron Harang
Zack Greinke
Shelby Miller
Gerritt Cole
Just missed: Matt Harvey, Clayton Kershaw

Joe D.
11 years ago

AL: Since the winner of the all-star game gets home field advantage and I’m a fan on an AL team, I always vote in the best interests of the American League on my All-Star ballots.

Here’s my ballot:

NL:
Kyle Kendrick
Julio Teheran
Mike Leake
Jerome Williams
Tom Koehler

AL:
Kluber
Pineda
King Felix
Archer
Gray

strata87
11 years ago

Kluber needs to be on every ASG “ballot.” In my humble opinion, he’s been the top SP in the AL (looking at all the numbers)so far despite 3 rough outings in the early going. At the least, he’s a top 5 SP. PLUS, he was last season’s biggest snub.

Dallas
11 years ago

Can’t vote on a list that omits Danny Salazar and includes Jeremie Guthrie. Credibility of list is gone right there…

NG
11 years ago

Just more evidence of how criminally underrated Jordan Zimmermann is. I don’t expect him to make the top 5, but seriously, he’s behind Francisco Liriano? And barely beats out Jose Fernandez who hasn’t thrown a pitch this year and couldn’t pitch in the hypothetical all-star game if he wanted to?