ALDS Game One(s) Live Blog

3:06
Dave Cameron: The schedule for today’s live blogs: Wendy Thurm and August Fagerstrom have the Orioles/Tigers game, and then I’ll be joined by David Temple for the Royals/Angels game at 9:30. We’ve got ~7 hours of baseball in front of us. Let’s have a good time.

5:25
Wendy Thurm: Welcome.

5:27
Comment From Alex
Hi Wendy!

5:27
Comment From Santiago
Can the Royals make a this a competitive series? Can they get to a fifth game?

5:28
Wendy Thurm: Royals’ opening is with the Angels’ starters. But Angels have same opening with Royals’ starters and have a much more potent offense. It does appear to be a mismatch, but that’s why you play the game.

5:29
Comment From Bil Tharpe
I bet the royals wish they hadn’t traded away Wil Meyers for a 2 year Shields rental. I mean their fan base must be so upset right now.

5:30
Wendy Thurm: Royals traded for strong starting pitching and it worked. A’s did same and it didn’t work. All we can do is make projections based on the best available info.

5:30
August Fagerstrom: Hi people! I’ve never done this before so I hope I’m not a complete failure! Hi Wendy!

5:30
Comment From Brandon
How many times through the O’s lineup can Scherzer go before he’s as bad as the Tigers’ bullpen

5:31
Wendy Thurm: I’ll say 7.

5:32
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
What is a Fagerstrom

5:32
Comment From Tyler
what the O/U on bunts in the KC/LAA game tonight?

5:32
August Fagerstrom: Ohp, that looks different from what the rest of the responses.

5:33
Wendy Thurm: I’ll peg the O/U on bunts tonight at 3.5. Taking the over.

5:33
Comment From Pennsy
For that matter, what’s a Thurm?

5:34
Comment From Tyler
Who do you like in the first game?

5:34
August Fagerstrom: For what it’s worth, Orioles and Tigers were both in the bottom 10 in sac bunting this year. Think Ned might be blazing the trail on that one

5:35
Comment From Pennsy
Where do you stand on retiring 21 across the league in honor of Roberto Clemente?

5:35
Comment From Michael
He said Royals/Angels. God Fagerstrom, get it together

5:36
Wendy Thurm: Interesting idea. I like giving teams the opportunity to honor their players, and let the league do it for the greats. I’d be inclined against, but don’t feel strongly about Clemente.

5:37
Comment From Tyler
Thanks Wendy, that’s what I wanted to hear 🙂 How important do you think it is for the Tigers to have a lead before going to the bullpen?

5:37
Comment From Michael
Who’s able to make it a closer series, Orioles or Royals?

5:38
Comment From Brandon
As few as 3200 tigers exist in the wild today

5:38
Comment From Santiago
How do you explain Steve Pearce and Nelson Cruz?

5:39
August Fagerstrom: Hey look, baseball!

5:39
Comment From Da Bear
Which MLB manager will be first to advocate for a 30-man roster with 9 DHs?

5:39
Comment From Jake
How much of the game do you guys miss tending to this chat?

5:40
Comment From DeGroms Hair
What’s your guys’ ideal World Series matchup this October?

5:40
August Fagerstrom: Out of the AL, I’d love to see the Royals make it because of the story, or the Angels make it because Trout

5:41
Wendy Thurm: I don’t have an ideal matchup, although as a Giants fans, I’d prefer to not see either the Dodgers or the Cardinals in the WS.

5:42
August Fagerstrom: 33% of Tillman’s pitches this season were fastballs in the upper-third. Can you tell?

5:43
Comment From Christian
Hopefully this is a good Wendy question and quasi relevant: With Chris Davis’s assertion he had an exception for Adderall last year and just didn’t get one this year, how does that happen? As someone that takes a similar medication it’s not really something you stop taking. Seems like between Chris, his agent, and the Orioles they wouldn’t let the exception lapse. Is there something weird where the MLB would take away his exception or is this just an excuse that doesn’t hold up?

5:43
Comment From Cory
Who is more legit, Steve Pearce or JD Martinez?

5:43
Comment From Sean
Why would a Giants fan not like the Cradinals?

5:44
Comment From Michael
Orioles/Nats is our last hope at a wacky, good World Series

5:44
August Fagerstrom: Wow. That curve after all those high fastballs

5:44
Wendy Thurm: Chris Tillman is a bit amped up.

5:44
August Fagerstrom: And then right back to the heat. Hi, Chris Tillman.

5:45
Comment From Grandpa Cistulli
Camden Yards seems like it’d help Cruz, but have you noticed he hit 25 of his 40 HRs away, with an OPS about .150 higher?

5:45
Comment From Jake
Has their ever been a postseason rotation with 3 consecutive Cy Young Award winners such as the Tigers’?

5:46
Comment From Jake
By the sounds of it, we would be intrigued by a world series with any two of the remaining teams involved.

5:47
Comment From Pennsy
Am I incorret in thinking it’s supposed to be “Game(s) One,” or just pedantic?

5:47
Comment From Helber
Which team (other than the A’s) has the most trouble with high heat? Wonderful inning by Tillman

5:48
Comment From Grandpa Cistulli
It’s not 3 consecutive Cy Youngs, but considering Verlander shouldn’t count anymore, Kershaw-Greinke is at least 2!

5:48
Comment From Corry
I think a Angels – Dodgers WS would be most entertaining. Giants – A’s would have been fine as well.

5:48
August Fagerstrom: Tigers, as a team, actually hit the high heat well this year. .378 SLG was seventh-best in MLB

5:49
August Fagerstrom: Funny enough, nobody hit high fastballs quite like the Orioles (.437 SLG, 30 points better than second place)

5:49
Comment From Tyler
do you think scherzer gets a similar deal to what cain got?

5:50
Comment From Jon
How did Markakis go from star to somewhat okay player?

5:50
August Fagerstrom: Power disappearing didn’t help, either

5:51
Comment From DeGroms Hair
I remember the name Fagerstrom for when Conan O’Brien went to Finland for an episode

5:51
Comment From PuckHerRightInTheFussy
2 strikes lost to framing already

5:51
Comment From Seth F
What’s your predicted W/L record for the Tigers bullpen this postseason?

5:52
August Fagerstrom: Wonder if that’s the most inside/outside pitch Scherzer has thrown all year. Something tells me it is.

5:53
Comment From Jake
Oh boy Jones..maybe take a pitch there.

5:53
Wendy Thurm: Boom goes Cruz

5:53
August Fagerstrom: I bet Dave’s glad he switched chat times today. He’d be getting hammered with “Nelson Cruz worst FA signing” comments right now.

5:53
Comment From Guest
so who gives Cruz 4/60 this offseason

5:54
August Fagerstrom: Wow, if Cruz and Pearce went back-to-back off Scherzer with two outs in the first that would have been sooo Orioles

5:54
Comment From Tyler
the phillies probably

5:54
Comment From Sean
The Mariners

5:55
Comment From Grandpa Cistulli
1997 NLDS featured Braves with Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz. Each had at least 1 Cy Young by that point, and each got the win in their game on the way to a series sweep.

5:55
Comment From Pale Hose
The 1997 Braves playoff team had six consecutive Cy Young winners (Glavine, Maddux, Maddux, Maddux, Maddux, Smoltz).

5:56
Comment From D
Just how on earth did Cruz not get picked up by anyone for more than 10 million, while Choo got 100?

5:56
Comment From Jake
Would O’s be World Series favorites with Machado, Weiters, and Davis?

5:56
August Fagerstrom: Cruz had a great season, but he’s still not a very attractive free agent, TBH

5:57
August Fagerstrom: Choo was coming off a .423 OBP season, can run the bases and hasn’t graded out terribly in the corners. Nobody could have seen the season he had coming

5:58
Wendy Thurm: Lots of comments saying Mariners will sign Cruz

5:58
Comment From Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine
Since we all know pitching wins championships, I’m not even going to bother looking up how many they won. All of them, assuredly.

5:59
August Fagerstrom: Cruz and Martinez to lead the way, who could have guessed?!

5:59
Comment From Mark
Welcome to Camden Yards everybody!

5:59
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Just because a player isn’t an attractive free agent doesn’t mean there aren’t one or teams who will stupidly overpay him

5:59
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Why is Victor Martinez good again

6:00
Comment From Tyler
whoever is doing the PBP has already shown more emotion than ernie johnson

6:01
August Fagerstrom: Can I repost the comment that said “Welcome to Camden Yards everybody”?

6:01
Wendy Thurm: Astros let JD Martinez go. Still crazy

6:01
August Fagerstrom: Chris Tillman: career 1.26 HR/9

6:01
Comment From Itsmidnighthere
Do pitchers who are about to be a FA and perform well in the postseason get more money?

6:02
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Will there be more home runs in this game than there will be Royals bunts in the next?

6:02
Comment From Hawk
Where would the Tigers be without the Kinsler trade?

6:03
Comment From Brandon
Honestly these were home runs in most ballparks

6:03
Comment From Grandpa Cistulli
Victor Martinez never had this much power. Is it because of the move off of catcher, you think?

6:04
Comment From K-Man
What are your favourite Postseason-coverage quirks? Love me some swearing picked up by on-field mics and awkward broadcasters’ apologies

6:05
Comment From Howie
Is there a type of pitcher that defies the worse-every-time-through-the-order?

6:05
Comment From Alpha-QNDDo
Dickey has a huge times through the ordr penalty actually

6:06
Comment From K-Man
MGL did something on this a year ago http://www.baseballprospect…

6:07
August Fagerstrom: So many fly balls.

6:07
Comment From Corry
where could one go to find stats on 2nd and 3rd time through the order?

6:08
Comment From Jon
Can you post a screenshot of how many questions you are looking at at one time?

6:10
Comment From Pretty good, whos that fagoot with a tuba?
B-ref splits page has times through the order explicitly. It’s called “Times Facing Opponent in Game”

6:12
Comment From Howie
I feel like a deep repertoire would help, or just nasty stuff

6:13
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
How many people are in the chat?

6:15
Comment From Jon
I wonder how many days in a row Mike Trout has been one of the 10 players in the drop down box when you go to search for players on Fangraphs

6:15
Comment From Wass
I think Royals chat topped out at 2300.

6:15
Comment From fats
Don’t you hate when the team you want to lose has great uniforms?

6:16
Comment From Guest
Royals chat hit 2900 at the peak afaik.

6:17
Comment From Gila Monster
Hey Wendy, I feel like some idiot gave you a lot of **** on the Player of the Year article. I personally think your articles are some of the best and well written on the site. Thank You for being here.

6:17
Comment From Wass
Was anyone else disappointed when Castellanos ruined the Tigers’ chances for a perfect 3 true outcomes game?

6:18
Comment From gramma
Cream of wheat or oatmeal?

6:18
Comment From Dylan
How much money did Hardy cost himself this season? I fell like he went from an “elite FA shortstop” to almost a qualifying offer guy in one season…

6:19
Comment From Jeff Arthur
To make it to the LCS in the last 20 years you needed to be either 1 or 2 in spending in your division. Like, 95% of LCS teams were 1 or 2. Why? And does Baltimore beat those odds?

6:20
Comment From Alex
Why is Verlander starting in game two?

6:21
Comment From gramma
Isn’t defensive war into your 30’s tough to count on continuing?

6:22
August Fagerstrom: Max Scherzer’s elbow just entered the Matrix

6:22
Comment From Jeff Arthur
Wendy, now that we have you live chatting, what would it take to make you the next commissioner? And what would you change first? You would clearly be awesome at that job.

6:22
Comment From K-Man
Will Ausmus use A. Sanchez like a setup man or a traditional longman?

6:23
Comment From Tony
Ausmus said the reason was to not have too long of a layoff in throwing for Verlander (his last start was last Wednesday).

6:23
Comment From Mark
For what it’s worth, the Game 3 starter would be on normal rest for Game 1 of the LCS.

6:23
Comment From Jon
I really like staying with the center field camera on singles up the middle– that was a nice view

6:24
Comment From Gila Monster
Speaking of that,Have you every though about going into business with a baseball agent? You have an elite level education(unfortunately still valued over skill in legal/business fields) and you obviously have terrific understand of off the field and on the field baseball matters.Scott Boras would be lucky to have you.

6:24
Comment From Jon
I like the way you spell your name, Jon

6:25
August Fagerstrom: Markakis’d

6:25
Comment From Jacob
Can Verlander survive 6 innings tomorrow?

6:27
Wendy Thurm: This start to the game is really going to test Ausmus’ bullpen management, which was not great this season.

6:27
Comment From Jon
Does this mean Scherzer will only get a QO now?

6:27
Comment From gramma
TBS needs a pitch count on the screen, so used to it now

6:29
August Fagerstrom: Last home game, that is

6:30
Comment From Jon
Okay google, how much should we regress defensive statistics when calculating WAR?

6:31
Comment From Jon
Are you able to mentally recalculate what a player’s WAR should be once you have halved the UZR?

6:32
Comment From R
Which broadcast is it that has the defensive positioning in the corner between pitches? I see it occasionally when MLB Network does live look-ins and it is amazing.

6:32
August Fagerstrom: Well if you take a +20 run defender and make it +10, you can knock off about a win. From 10 to 5 knocks off about half a win. Doesn’t have to be exact

6:32
Comment From Alex
If Phile Coke faces a right handed batter in this game how drinks should I have?

6:32
Comment From Jon
“how drinks should I have” sounds like you’re already deep enough

6:35
Comment From Alex
I’m actually just about to leave work I’m just already dreading the bullpen decision making given how Scherzer is pitching right now. Probably beer.

6:35
Comment From grampa
Is keeping hitters in the batters box a fair way of speeding up the game?

6:35
Comment From Seth F
How long do you think until we start hearing about pitch framing on national television broadcasting?

6:36
August Fagerstrom: I don’t think they ever cite him by name but they cite the same numbers and concepts that are clearly from his article.

6:36
Wendy Thurm: Kinsler doing the lead off job beautifully with this AB.

6:36
Comment From Jon
to be fair, I’m on beer number 3

6:37
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
I don’t think pitch framing itself is really a “non-traditional” sort of concept its just that no one ever thought it could be quantified.

6:38
August Fagerstrom: Jesus, this at-bat

6:38
Comment From K-Man
David Cone does it on YES

6:38
Comment From grampa
Cone loves Fangraphs etc on YES for the Yankees, Mets guys are a bit slower to embrace…Keith Hernandez loves wins

6:39
Comment From Gila Monster
Ok guys. How much should framing matter? I’ve been a Lucroy advocate for player of the year/NL MVPe. Including framing, he should be worth close to 9 WAR as BP says he has saved close to 24 runs.. If you half it, he is one level with Trout/Kershaw. Take it away, still a top 30 catching season of all time, especially considering the “intangibles” like calling a game/physical demand. What do you guys think? Is it that hard to believe a defensive player involved in EVERY pitch more unreliable than normal defensive metrics?

6:39
August Fagerstrom: wat?

6:39
August Fagerstrom: torii hunter 2-out bunt for hit?

6:39
Comment From Steven
Kinsler didn’t do the lead-off job very well there, since I’m pretty sure the job is getting ob base.

6:40
Comment From Mark
Does talking about the process of framing without citing run values count? Because Dan Dickerson has mentioned it a couple times this game on Tigers radio.

6:40
Comment From K-Man
pls don’t comment on game action, I’m 20 seconds behind

6:41
Comment From K-Man
2

6:42
Comment From R
Is there somewhere that has what percentage of pitches a pitcher throws end up as foul balls? Cause Tillman has to be up there

6:43
Comment From Steven
Wendy, I just get annoyed with this idea that fouling off pitches is really that important.

6:43
August Fagerstrom: Phil Hughes led the league in foul balls by five (!) percentage points. He was at 25%, Kershaw was second at 20%

6:44
Comment From EngineerinSF
Hey Wendy, I liked your article on the technology in stadiums, but felt personal comfort was neglected. Do teams underestimate how important thermal and visual comfort are to the viewing experience? Thanks

6:44
Comment From guy
That was the most Adam Jones at bat ever

6:44
Comment From Mitch
A&W, have you guys ever met? If not, do you even know each virtually very well or is this like an awkward Skype first date with the whole world watching?

6:45
August Fagerstrom: She seems great though and is an excellent writer

6:46
Comment From grampa
August: Mets overtake #Natitude in ’15? Wild card? Or 7th losing season in a row?

6:46
Comment From Mitch
Under current FG thinking, that you should go to the bullpen very early in a playoff game, doesn’t driving up the pitch count matter a lot less?

6:46
August Fagerstrom: It will be interesting to see what they do in the offseason to lineup/bullpen

6:46
Comment From SF Dave
Wait… We’re going to refrain from talking about the game real time because some guy has the game paused and is 2 pitches behind? It’s a commercial K-Man. Fast forward

6:47
August Fagerstrom: Sorry K-Man

6:47
Comment From Jon
Wendy, why do you think that Kinsler’s atbat was positive? Sure he had a lot of foul tips but he didn’t get on base.

6:48
Comment From matt
with pitch framing data becoming a thing, will it be reflected in FIP?

6:49
Comment From EngineerinSF
I’m trying to engage the giants on it with some tech invented by the CBE at Berkeley, http://www.cbe.berkeley.edu/, if you have a contact it’d be appreciated. pancakeindian@yahoo.com

6:49
Comment From BDF
I would like to be clear that my comment about Wendy on the POTY article was mocking the original commenter insulting her. I thought signing off “semper fudge” would give it away.

6:50
Comment From Mike
Which city left in the playoffs has the best food?

6:50
Comment From Jon
Do you guys play fantasy?

6:51
Wendy Thurm: A lot of you think more than 6 relievers will be used. Unless we go extras, I can’t see that

6:52
Comment From Jon
But how many leagues did you play in?

6:52
Comment From Jon
That’s relievers total right?

6:53
Comment From Seth F
Since we’ve had like 3 questions on that one Kinsler AB, why not another one: Do you think broken bats have an affect on anything? Or is it just the result of a bad swing?

6:53
Comment From Jon
How old are you, August? You must have inherited a team I assume

6:54
August Fagerstrom: This game is so Chris Tillman. Everything is good save for a couple costly singers

6:54
August Fagerstrom: dingers, damnit autocorrect

6:54
Comment From SF Dave
PIT? For Food? it’s better than Hotdogs and popcorn but have you been to AT&T? Hands down the best food and I’ve been to 22 of the 30. Then again, I like variety and fresh, non processed stuff.

6:54
Comment From Jon
does this chat have autocorrect?

6:56
Wendy Thurm: 5 more minutes on the poll. Want to make sure we end the poll before the first reliever.

6:56
Comment From Boner Jamz
AT&T Park does have excellent food….But San Diego beats it in terms of beer

6:57
Comment From Stringer Bell
August being a year younger than me makes me feel like a failure

6:58
Comment From Queef pulverizer
How hot is Mila?

6:58
Comment From Guest
What are you studying August?

6:59
Comment From Doc Ellis
tell us about getting into the industry august. what did you do

7:00
Wendy Thurm: Ungroomed Brett Favre >>>>>>>>> groomed Brett Favre

7:00
Comment From .
Good luck man. I’m rooting for you. Your ability to write and a cool name will take you far

7:01
Comment From Guest
Are you sure there wasn’t any blackmail involved August?

7:02
Comment From Section329
If you eliminate Fenway and Wrigley AT+T=best stadium.

7:02
Comment From Stephen
Chance Nelson Cruz declines a QO? I could see many teams interested in him as a good DH.

7:02
August Fagerstrom: Coors is beautiful too. Can’t beat Wrigley or Fenway for the atmosphere, but to be honest Wrigley is a dump (sorry cubs fans i love them too)

7:03
Comment From Kimball
If a contract has a team option that the team declines, can itthen make a QO to try to get draft pick compensation? Seems like it’s against the spirit, and might spawn a grievance, but is it actually against the rules?

7:03
Comment From SF Dave
You can’t fit in a Beantown seat unless you are 5′ 6″

7:04
Wendy Thurm: Closing the poll after this half inning.

7:04
Comment From Bob
My prediction: Tigers will win this game without ever putting a man on base.

7:04
Comment From Matt
Fenway is in a great location with a great atmosphere, but the stadium itself is still too small and kinda a dump.

7:04
Comment From SF Dave
I have to go pick up the kids now. Please don’t talk about the game at all until I return and catch up. I don’t want it spoiled.

7:05
Comment From Boner Jamz
This game needs more steals and bunts

7:05
August Fagerstrom: definitely the wrong question

7:05
Comment From Boner Jamz
What are your guys’ spirit animals?

7:06
August Fagerstrom: I think you’re higher than me on the food chain

7:06
Comment From Tim Whatley
What’s your prediction on the life of Kershaw’s contract: Bargain, Fair Deal, or Bust?

7:07
Comment From EngineerinSF
I have visited 30 MLB stadiums. Dont discount Miller park on best fan experience. Roof keeps the noise in, Lots of sausage, and there’s a free shuttle from the Miller Brewery. That’s a fun Satrday right there.

7:07
Comment From Mark
Oh wow, I didn’t realize you were the one behind the lineup optimization article last year. I really enjoyed that one.

7:07
Comment From Guest
Lower on the list of “things you might survive running into with your car” though.

7:07
Comment From SF Dave
Did Wendy mean Cougar?

7:08
Comment From Wass
We’ve now had comments from queef pulverizer and boner jamz. No commentary, just think it’s funny.

7:08
Comment From Guest
August, you are underestimating how big a Moose is and how small Jaguars are.

7:09
Comment From grampa
D Wright back to 5+ WAR next year?

7:10
Comment From Mitch
A jaguar would destroy a moose in a fight. Those big cats are literally killing machines.

7:10
Comment From Boner Jamz
Ya, but how much has the moose been working out?

7:11
August Fagerstrom: I think the closest I’ve ever been to a fist fight was with own of my best friends on who would fit a fight between a hippopotamus and a grizzly bear

7:11
August Fagerstrom: This autocorrect is KILLING me

7:11
Comment From carz
Grizzly cmon bruh

7:11
Comment From someone
Hippo, right?

7:11
August Fagerstrom: I love you guys

7:12
August Fagerstrom: That’s how it all started.

7:12
Wendy Thurm: Machado would’ve had that

7:12
Comment From dgrussel
someone needs to start walking around and stretching in the O’s ‘pen right?

7:12
Wendy Thurm: Obvious comment is obvious

7:13
August Fagerstrom: Wow. That guy is manning center field for the Tigers right now? might want to think about ezequiel carrera.

7:14
Comment From Guest
Moose weight up to a 1400 pounds and can stand 6-7 ft tall with 6ft wide antlers. A jaguar wouldn’t think of taking on something that massive.

7:15
Comment From Seth F.
What should managers do in playoff blowouts? Assuming it’s not an elimination game is it ever a good idea to punt a game? What would be the best way to go about this?

7:15
Comment From dgrussel
Hunter-O’Day-Miller-Britton ENGAGE

7:16
Comment From Jacob
THT Wendy

7:16
Comment From Mark
Rajai Davis has a career UZR/150 of 0.0 in CF and negative everywhere else.

7:17
August Fagerstrom: Tigers’ hitters grit factor is off the charts right now

7:17
August Fagerstrom: Wow.

7:18
August Fagerstrom: Crazy at-bat

7:18
August Fagerstrom: That should be it for Tillman

7:19
Wendy Thurm: Torii’s timing looks off.

7:19
Comment From Not Jeff Sullivan
So uh, pitch framing

7:19
Comment From Guest
too long for Tillman, right?

7:19
August Fagerstrom: If I’m Showalter I’m doing anything in my power to make sure Miggy doesn’t bat this inning

7:20
Comment From Kimball
43% of Tillman’s pitches have been to Kinsler, that is just awesome.

7:21
Comment From Dylan
Now would be the time for one of those groundball specialists.

7:21
Comment From Matt
Was hoping for a Royals- Pirates WS to make TV networks cry, but what would be the second worse outcome for them?

7:21
August Fagerstrom: How did Kinsler make that such a close play

7:22
Comment From Darth Stout
Question for Wendy – Will any of the ongoing litigation possibly result in local games available on MLB.TV? Or is that a pipe dream?

7:22
Comment From dgrussel
Orioles infielders are so scared to throw the ball hard at the base after their last few weeks of throwing teh ball all of the place

7:22
Comment From Kimball
(Correction, accidentally used strikes, not total pitches. Still, 30% (30/99) at the time Kinsler walked.)

7:22
Comment From Fish
Baltimore fans are the worst. Stop with the Seven Nation Army, you aren’t a Big Ten school.

7:23
Comment From Darth Stout
So no relief for those of us who would rather burn $100 per month than give it to Comcast…

7:23
Comment From Kimball
Got the email today about MLB.tv streaming the playoffs on mobile devices, with a cable subscriber login — presumably a pilot program?

7:25
August Fagerstrom: I just ordered a pizza. Yay pizza!

7:25
Comment From Jack White
http://www.spin.com/article…

7:26
Comment From grampa
where is his fanship talked about? link please?

7:27
Comment From Skating Tripods
Just search “Jack White Cubs” on Google Image Search. It’s clear how much he likes baseball.

7:27
Wendy Thurm: Here’s the article on staggered rotations in the postseason.

http://www.hardballtimes.co…

7:27
Comment From K-Man
There’s also this Tigers promo Video where Jack White refuses to say “get Miggy with it”

7:27
Comment From Za
Never buy pizza. Always make your own. I’m snooty like that.

7:29
Wendy Thurm: Did the Tigers borrow the Pirates defense?

7:29
August Fagerstrom: The MLB’s worst defensive third baseman this season, ladies and genetlemen

7:30
Comment From Seth F.
On the win expectancy charts, what’s the difference between the green line and the gray line?

7:32
Comment From Section329
Don’t know White but was at that Cubs game. 98 degrees for my first day inChicago.

7:33
Comment From The Kid
I think the grey line is the one that starts at the original win expectancy instead of 50/50. Because the tigers were at above 50 to start the game, hence why the grey line is lower

7:34
Comment From Tyler
shouldnt this be o’day?

7:35
Comment From dgrussel
did Wendy abandon us to go track down homeless-looking Brett Farve?

7:36
August Fagerstrom: Miggy just made Steve Pearce look like a baby!!!! What is Pearce, like 5’3″?

7:36
Comment From Seth F.
Wendy, who won at the party?

7:37
Comment From K-Man
when did Vmart last strike out twice in a game?

7:37
Comment From Denji
Maybe Buck considers Miller his best non-closer and wants him to face the middle of the order?

7:37
Wendy Thurm: That was a guess

7:38
Comment From Guest
It is odd that you don’t do chats more on timezone. I thought Wendy and Jeff would do the later game with August and someone else on east coast game.

7:39
Comment From Boner Jamz
Buck Showalter is a good manager

7:39
Comment From Boner Jamz
3-2

7:39
August Fagerstrom: Andrew Miller had a 1.35 ERA and 1.13 FIP with Baltimore this year. Jesus.

7:40
August Fagerstrom: 2.02/1.51 for the season

7:41
Comment From dgrussel
poor Wendy

7:41
August Fagerstrom: 42.6 K%! 7 BB%! 0.43 HR/9!

7:41
Comment From dgrussel
having to trade with Dave and be with August

7:44
Comment From guy
Would you let Miller pitch next inning? Or would you bring in Hunter?

7:45
Comment From dgrussel
August, you’ve spent half this chat talking about being a moose

7:45
Comment From dgrussel
creepiest car insurance commercial ever, thanks Progressive

7:45
Comment From dgrussel
high socks fans? love A. Jones look.

7:46
Comment From Boner Jamz
Who would win in a fight between a Moose and a Hippopotamus?

7:46
Comment From Matt
I think Miller could be one of those rare reliever trades that really matter. Good relievers are more undervalued than top end starters in the playoffs.

7:47
August Fagerstrom: creepy Guest

7:47
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Sometimes it seems like you publish questions based on the name moreso than the question

7:48
Comment From dgrussel
I was shocked that after carrying 3 LHRP all season, the O’s left Matusz and McFarland off the roster, with Miller being the only lefty, and he doesnt really play like a true lefty out of the pen who is exposed to RHPs

7:48
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
“Boner jamz”

7:49
Wendy Thurm: Tigers defense doing work.

7:49
August Fagerstrom: That’s the angriest a pitcher has ever been about an out before

7:49
August Fagerstrom: The juxtaposition of Scherzer’s emotions from the strikeout to the ball coming off that bat were classic

7:51
Wendy Thurm: Poll still open. Get those votes in.

7:51
Comment From Denji
Why Steve Pierce, why

7:51
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
That makes it slightly less painful to remember Pearce was claimed by the Blue Jays and refused to play there

7:52
Comment From Aaron (UK)
Pearce had to have got a slow jump out of the box there

7:52
Comment From dgrussel
Showalter is shaking his head and looking at his little book of names until play restarts

7:52
Comment From Guest
JD got a gun

7:52
Comment From dgrussel
Bud Norris is super emotional everytime a ball goes in the air. It could be going 500 feet and it just points in the air right above the mound as if its going to hit a 747 and come shooting down for an IFFB

7:52
Comment From Tom Tinkle
Do you take sherzer out now or try to extend because that bullpen sukc

7:53
Comment From Guest
You need to work on your #brand if you don’t want those to show up on Google when looking for your writing August.

7:53
August Fagerstrom: After the fourth “JD’s got a gun” comment, I get the joke

7:54
August Fagerstrom: Andrew Miller’s making fools look silly right now

7:56
Comment From Boner Jamz
Who does Scherzer play for next year?

7:56
Comment From Hareeb al-Saq
Why have NBA and NFL always had plenty of black muslims but MLB doesn’t seem to have ever had one?

7:57
August Fagerstrom: Showalter brought Miller in to face 5/6 righties and it appears to be genius

8:00
Comment From Tom Tinkle
what’s his lefty righty split?

8:00
8:00
August Fagerstrom: He’s their best reliever against to either side. Makes sense to have him go through the heart of the order

8:02
Comment From simon says
Miller is a free agent next season and agent has to be going crazy

8:02
Comment From grampa
Black baseball players are always the minority once they’re pro’s, so less exposure to others converting or teaching Koran, and not so for NBA/NFL

8:02
Comment From Section329
Decreasing # of African Americans in MLB?

8:02
Comment From dgrussel
the amount of non-Muslim Black players in the NBA/NFL is similar to the amount of non-Black players in MLB

8:02
Comment From dgrussel
I mean, how many black players are there in MLB compared to NBA/NFL? its a sample size thing

8:02
Comment From Matt
I think the lack of Black Muslims is more of a race thing. Most black players come from strongly Catholic countries in Latin America, not from the United States.

8:03
Wendy Thurm: Poll closing before the first pitch of the B7

8:03
Comment From Tom Tinkle
other than britton you mean

8:04
Comment From Tom Tinkle
why doesn’t miller close?

8:07
August Fagerstrom: Hitters have not missed the mistake pitches in this game

8:07
Wendy Thurm: JJ Hardy didn’t like all the attention Brandon Crawford got for his GS as a SS

8:08
Comment From guy
TBS’ coverage of this game tonight has actually been surprisingly good. Any thoughts on that?

8:08
Comment From dgrussel
did you play baseball August?

8:09
Comment From dgrussel
position?

8:09
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Do they call mixed amateur softball “beer leagues” in the US like they do in Canada

8:10
Comment From K-Man
can you play hardball in the US without being in HS, College, Minors, Indie Ball, or the MLB?

8:11
Comment From Jacob
August, are you a Tiger fan? I remember reading somewhere about someone missing Galarragas almost perfect game, that was you?

8:11
Comment From DWrek
Softball bat > car payment. True or false?

8:13
Comment From Larry Bernandez
Is Ausmus right to keep Scherzer in? It doesn’t seem like they have a reliable replacement for him in Det

8:13
Comment From dgrussel
do you two read other FG writers chats from the regular week chats?

8:14
Comment From Bob
On a scale of zero to “I can’t believe this guy gets paid to make these decisions,” does Joba get the 8th over Sanchez or Soria?

8:15
Comment From grampa
Showalter vs Ausmus just might decide this series…

8:17
Comment From dgrussel
fun fact. Buck and Brad only have 12 years difference in age. seems like Buck could be Ausmus’s dad

8:17
Comment From semperty
As a Royals fan, should I be cheering for Baltimore here? Or are they a tougher match-up?

8:18
Comment From Who?
Honestly I think the Orioles can win this series just because they have such a formidable bullpen that they can actually hold onto leads they get.

8:19
Comment From Larry Bernandez
Best night in regular season history: 2011 when TB beat NYY minutes after BOS blew a lead to BAL, completely turning the playoff picture Topsy Turvy. Agree or Disagree?

8:22
Comment From Boner Jamz
Which series has the best chance of going 5?

8:22
August Fagerstrom: Ouch.

8:23
Comment From Hank
Is it just me or does the crowd seem quiet for a 4-2 lead in the 8th?

8:23
Wendy Thurm: All the home runs. ALL OF THEM

8:23
August Fagerstrom: No way. I was in the process of typing “Miggy’s gonna go deep here” when he did that.

8:24
August Fagerstrom: That Miggy guy

8:24
August Fagerstrom: He’ll getcha

8:24
August Fagerstrom: I was so close to having my own Anthony DiComo moment.

8:25
August Fagerstrom: Did we just witness the Orioles outperforming their BaseRuns with lucky sequencing?

8:26
Comment From R
His was way more of a stretch than “miggy’s going deep”

8:26
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Fun how Britton went from a failed prospect to an elite closer. Pitchers, amiright?

8:27
Comment From George
As an Orioles fan, this is what 90 percent of their games are like

8:27
Comment From semperty
Anyone care to explain the Anthony DiComo moment”?

8:28
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Miller wasn’t as heralded as Britton though, was he?

8:29
Comment From Larry Bernandez
Were most elite closers once upon a time starting prospects? Or is this an exaggeration?

8:29
August Fagerstrom: Miller was the sixth overall pick in the 2006 draft. Britton was a third-rounder

8:29
Comment From Boner Jamz
Andrew Miller was considered one of the better pitching prospects in baseball. Zach Britton was projected more as a middle of the rotation picther

8:30
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
More n00b comments: Steve Pearce had a 5 win season. What!?

8:30
Comment From Mark
Miller and Maybin were the main chips in the Cabrera/D-Train trade.

8:31
August Fagerstrom: Guys this pizza is so good

8:33
Comment From Syed
why is Scherzer still pitching?

8:34
Comment From Cleve Landsteamer
Has anybody else seen more than enough Rob Lowe for 5 lifetimes?

8:34
Comment From Tyler
what kind?

8:35
Comment From Nick
You’re the Red Sox. Taking everything into account (money years player production) who would you rather sign. Sandoval or Headley? I’m all for Headley

8:35
Wendy Thurm: Should clarify – if you’re giving a deal longer than 3 years, I’d give it to Sandoval, but only in the AL

8:36
Comment From Alex
If there’s so much concern about Verlander why is he pitching in game 2? Why did Torii Hunter bunt? Why is Joba warming up? Why did they just call a hit and run with Miggy on deck? *head explodes*

8:36
August Fagerstrom: Yeah, depends on the length of the contract but I like Headley

8:37
Comment From Larry Bernandez
Team A has a WRC+ of 125 but relies largely on power numbers.

8:38
Comment From guy
Greek pizza is objectively the best pizza

8:40
Comment From Boner Jamz
Does greek pizza not have tomato sauce or something?

8:40
Wendy Thurm: There’s the Tigers defense we were expecting

8:41
August Fagerstrom: Who could have seen the Tigers defense doing that

8:41
Comment From Nick
Yeah I just wouldn’t want to commit 4-5 years or whatever it’d take for Panda when you can probably give Headley 2 years. And Headley is probably the better overall player too

8:42
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Pizza without tomato sauce isn’t pizza. It’s an abomination

8:42
Comment From Boner Jamz
Should the Orioles use Gausman in their playoff rotation, or out of the pen?

8:42
Comment From Boner Jamz
Sandoval is actually a pretty solid defender. Not Headley good, but he’s not awful or anything

8:43
August Fagerstrom: Jeez, Nelson Cruz

8:43
Wendy Thurm: Now you know why Ausmus left Scherzer in

8:44
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
When is the crowd going to start singing Hotel Yorba?

8:45
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
During this game I learned that the Orioles are a threat and that scotch and chocolate chip cookies is not as bad a combination as it sounds

8:46
Comment From Alex
Soria > Sanchez > Joba > Nathan

8:47
August Fagerstrom: Look at those Nelson Cruz intangibles

8:47
Wendy Thurm: And the wheels on the bus are falling off, falling off, falling off

8:47
August Fagerstrom: Are there intangibles in a sport where everything is quantified?

8:47
Comment From Boner Jamz
That play perfectly sums up the Cruz signing. Not a good idea whatsoever, but it works out in the end

8:48
Comment From Guest
I can’t wait to watch the gif of Cruz running ina circle over and over again.

8:48
Comment From dgrussel
hahaha, best thing Wendy has said all night

8:48
Comment From R
8 million dollar flyer for one year is not even close to a bad idea

8:49
Wendy Thurm: Name the last time an IBB to load the bases worked out well for the team on the field.

8:51
August Fagerstrom: Real laser from Romine there at short

8:52
Comment From dgrussel
Britton isnt coming back in right?

8:52
August Fagerstrom: You could witness Torii Hunter’s self-esteem deflate as he chased the ball down in right field

8:53
Comment From ell oh ell
Miguel Cabrera selfishly directing the spotlight on himself by refusing playoff money = obvious distraction. Tigers weren’t ready to play.

8:55
Comment From ell oh ell

8:57
August Fagerstrom: Is it worth it to burn another pitcher to keep Britton’s pitch count down? Probably, but it’s something to think about

8:58
Dave Cameron: Hey guys

8:59
Comment From dgrussel
yes. miller isn’t pitching tomorrow, so you want your next best reliever around if possible right?

8:59
Comment From Aaron (UK)
They should let a bench bat close out this game. No one ever would, though…

8:59
Dave Cameron: I have a hot take

8:59
Dave Cameron: The Tigers defense and bullpen both suck.

8:59
August Fagerstrom: also, scorching.

8:59
Comment From dgrussel
Dave, August is trying to convince us he’s a moose. Like all chat long.

9:00
Comment From chuckb
That analysis is why you get paid the big bucks, Dave.

9:00
Dave Cameron: I do?

9:00
Wendy Thurm: Dave and David are here. I’m leaving. It’s been a pleasure. Thanks for keeping the misogyny to a minimum.

9:00
Dave Cameron: Thanks for hosting, Wendy!

9:00
Comment From Guest
Thank you Wendy.

9:00
Comment From Astro and the Vans
Thanks Wendy, you rule!

9:00
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
We love Wendy!

9:01
David Temple: Oh, hello.

9:02
Comment From dgrussel
most impressive part of Orioles/Tigers game?

9:02
Dave Cameron: Buck Showalter’s bullpen management.

9:03
Comment From Astro and the Vans
Temple, you old so-and-so, how the heck are you?

9:03
Comment From Chris – a Phils fan ordinarily
How do you like the Tigers’ chances of winning the series after this game is over?

9:04
August Fagerstrom: That’s not what I meant. Maybe it’s time for me to log off too!

9:04
Dave Cameron: Night August.

9:05
Comment From mcgolfin
Maybe the Tigers realized they can’t lose the series if the bottom of the 8th never ends

9:05
Comment From Robo
August has no place in October. (just kidding August you’re cool)

9:05
Comment From Boner Jamz
I want to name my kid August Fagerstrom

9:06
Comment From Jake
Thanks August. Now I want pizza and a moose

9:06
August Fagerstrom: Later y’all. Thanks for chatting! It’s been fun

9:06
August Fagerstrom: hey look a reliever

9:06
David Temple: This is already the best episode of Castle I’ve ever seen.

9:07
Comment From Hieronymous
De Aza seems like a really good pick up for the Os. Basically got him for nothing.

9:07
Comment From AJT
I got here too late to ask why August’s name is a month.

9:07
Dave Cameron: Yep, super underrated move.

9:08
Comment From Boner Jamz
Ew. Escobar is leading off again

9:08
Dave Cameron: This is the Royals stock line-up.

9:08
Dave Cameron: Angels

9:08
David Temple: POLL TIME

9:08
Comment From AJT
Thanks August, that is pretty cool

9:09
Dave Cameron: 68 on the curve. Fun.

9:10
Dave Cameron: Escobar looked useless there.

9:10
Dave Cameron: helpless. I think I meant helpless, but useless is accurate too.

9:11
David Temple: My dad is so mad the Brewers traded Aoki.

9:11
Comment From chuckb
How about feckless? Fun word.

9:11
Dave Cameron: Will Smith is pretty good, and Khris Davis was a fine replacement.

9:12
Comment From Nick
Four years in a row now Jered weaver has seriously out-performed his FIP and xFIP; do you think that continues?

9:12
Dave Cameron: Yep. He’s an infield fly machine, and extreme fly ball pitchers who get a lot of IFFBs usually post low BABIPs.

9:12
Comment From Guest
do the angels have one of the worst starting rotations in a long while of top seeds entering the playoffs in recent years?

9:13
David Temple: Well then.

9:13
Dave Cameron: I’m not sure the Orioles rotation this year is any better.

9:13
Dave Cameron: Nori Aoki, sneakily terrible baserunner.

9:14
Comment From Guest
That might be the first time I’ve ever seen the out at first on a pickoff delivered via backhand slap to the face

9:14
David Temple: Gives it a little extra, doesn’t it?

9:15
Comment From chuckb
Yikes! -10 bsr. That’s tough to do.

9:15
Comment From someone
I don’t think you would reach base enough to do that

9:16
Comment From Jake
Can anyone write a post explaining why Aoki has been so bad running? Please

9:16
Comment From Guest
what is the justification for starting verlander in game 2? or at all for that matter in this series

9:17
Dave Cameron: Over Price? I don’t know. In this series: Sanchez is hurt.

9:17
Dave Cameron: Well, too hurt to start.

9:17
Dave Cameron: That’s out in ~25 other ballparks.

9:17
Comment From Guest
Fly ball to the Royals outfield? Can of corn.

9:17
David Temple: It’s happening, nerds. Soak it in.

9:17
Comment From grampa
WOW, AL version of Lagares out there

9:18
Comment From Tyler
vargas with a nice GIF face reaction

9:19
Comment From Hieronymous
Speaking of Sullivan and baserunning: that article he wrote about Dyson’s stolen base was amazing. One of the best baseball articles I’ve ever read.

9:19
Dave Cameron: Yup.

9:20
Dave Cameron: Lots of balls in the air. Jason Vargas doing Jason Vargas things.

9:22
Comment From Kimball
If a team declines a contract option, can it still make a QO to try to get a comp pick? Seems like it might cause a grievance, but is it against the rules?

9:22
Dave Cameron: No, two separate decisions.

9:23
Comment From Kimball
So, KC could decline Butler’s 12.5 mil option, then offer him a 14/15 mil QO?

9:24
Dave Cameron: Yes, but he’d instantly accept.

9:24
David Temple: “You don’t want Eric Hosmer to beat you”

9:24
Dave Cameron: Lots of breaking stuff from Weaver so far.

9:25
Dave Cameron: Well, it’s true. I don’t want to get beaten up by anyone, especially a pro athlete.

9:25
David Temple: I see your point. Hosmer would do a number on me, for sure.

9:25
Comment From AJT
Wow Butler is slow

9:26
David Temple: Aybar could have slammed a Mountain Dew before throwing.

9:26
Dave Cameron: Just absurd how slow he got down the line.

9:26
Dave Cameron: Billy Butler could hit .320 and still be a mediocre player.

9:26
Dave Cameron: When he hits less than .320, he’s just garbage.

9:28
David Temple: Grabbed my stopwatch. 4.69 secs contact to 1b mitt.

9:28
Comment From Lyle
If Butler was more of a fly ball hitter would that help his value out?

9:28
Dave Cameron: Yes.

9:28
Comment From Section329
Oh, dear, that means a Mariner

9:28
Comment From AJT
Butler has more GIDPs than Bonds did over his career.

9:28
Comment From Guest
but the grit. he’s got grit. and grits

9:29
David Temple: Whoops.

9:29
Comment From Tony
How many years do the Mariners give Butler?

9:29
David Temple: That’s what I wanted.

9:30
Dave Cameron: I’ll guess 3/33.

9:31
Comment From dgrussel
nooo Mariners have to sign Cruz so Orioles get a draft pick

9:31
Dave Cameron: Cruz has no interest in playing half his games in Safeco.

9:31
Dave Cameron: Angels

9:32
David Temple: Whoa. Abrupt Castle just happened.

9:32
Comment From Richard
Hamilton “just trying to make contact”… I can’t wait to see that!

9:33
David Temple: Abrupt Castle was also the name of my jazz combo in college.

9:33
Comment From Guest
Dave (both): do you actually think the M’s are so desperate that they offer Butler that kind of a deal?

9:33
Dave Cameron: They’ve been trying to get him for years.

9:33
David Temple: I think they look at other options, certainly. But it still may happen.

9:35
David Temple: The correct answer was the Nationals, by the way. Matt Williams was drafted 3rd overall in 1986. Thanks for playing.

9:35
David Temple: Bruce Bochy was also a first rounder!

9:36
Comment From Guest
is that a sad attempt at a playoff mustache by vargas

9:36
Dave Cameron: He also might just be like me, and that’s five days worth of not shaving.

9:36
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Cain is amazing to watch in CF, wow.

9:36
Comment From chuckb
Ned Yost was a first rounder, too.

9:36
Comment From semperty
Welcome to the joy that is Lorenzo Cain, America. You’re welcome.

9:36
David Temple: Correct!

9:36
Comment From Guest
vargas gif time

9:37
Comment From Jamie
If you can’t grow facial hair, you shouldn’t try

9:37
Dave Cameron: I tried once

9:37
Dave Cameron: Grew a super shaggy homeless “beard”

9:37
David Temple: The mere image of that made me giggle.

9:37
Dave Cameron: Flew out to Seattle, didn’t tell my parents I’d arrived, walked into my parents shop, and she said “I’ll be right with you sir.”

9:37
Dave Cameron: (she being my mom)

9:38
David Temple: HA!

9:38
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Are there pictures of the Dave Cameron beard

9:38
Dave Cameron: Maybe? I don’t know. That was the first weekend I ever met Jonah Keri, too, so that was his first impression of me. Ask him about it sometime.

9:39
David Temple: Honest question: I agree that some of the announcing so far has been subpar. But I also am reluctant to criticize because I know I would be terrible at it. Like, it’s a hard job. I know no one pays me to do it, but am I crazy for feeling sympathetic?

9:39
Dave Cameron: No

9:40
David Temple: Like, it would be really hard. So much dead air to cover.

9:40
Dave Cameron: And it’s not like you have time to give context

9:40
Dave Cameron: It’s just snippet after snippet.

9:40
Comment From KDL
It’s hard. But don’t you think it’s like anything else…After a while you should be pretty good, or someone else should get a shot.

9:40
David Temple: This seems very reasonable.

9:41
Dave Cameron: Jared Weaver, Curveball Machine.

9:41
David Temple: I’m not going to post them all, but many of you are making valid arguments re: announcing.

9:42
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Without looking, guess the over/under fcareer SB for Billy Butler

9:42
David Temple: 18?

9:42
Dave Cameron: 7

9:43
Comment From AJT
Butler has 5

9:43
David Temple: !!

9:43
David Temple: I WAS WAY OFF

9:43
David Temple: Slightly embarrassed.

9:43
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Billy Butler has been worth 56 offensive runs, and negative 123 defensive runs

9:44
Dave Cameron: I think the scouting report on the Royals line-up is “sucks at bendy pitches”

9:44
Comment From Kimball
“sucks *particularly* at bendy pitches”

9:44
Comment From Joe
The fake rocks, just so Orange County and awful.

9:45
David Temple: I actually applied for a job in LA once, and legit thought “ugh. I’d have to go to games in Anaheim.”

9:45
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
So Dave, are you going to be up at 9am to watch baseball? It has to be odd watching baseball so early.

9:45
Dave Cameron: I live on the east coast. And I’m taking tomorrow off.

9:45
Comment From Dave Camerons Puppy
Question: how has Butler been worth -44 BsR, +56 Off, and -123 Def but is a career +10 WAR? Shouldn’t it be negative?

9:46
Dave Cameron: First three are relative to average, not replacement.

9:46
Comment From Joe
Yea, but getting out of the parking lot and onto the freeway in like 5 minutes is amazing.

9:46
Dave Cameron: I’ve been ~5 times, and have never enjoyed it.

9:47
Comment From Robo
Here are the anti-David Temples: http://deadspin.com/fans-of…

9:47
Dave Cameron: “Don’t fake it, show it.” Cal Ripken on pickoffs, and sexual predators.

9:49
Comment From chuckb
On stolen bases thinking about Jeff’s column on Dyson), how can we divide credit/blame on stolen bases between pitchers & catchers? How would we decide on the proper weighting?

9:49
Dave Cameron: Max Weinstein did a bunch of posts on this over the last year. Google Max Weinstein battery effect or something and it should come up.

9:50
Dave Cameron: And the first run will score on a curve. Of course.

9:50
David Temple: Weaver has other pitches, yes?

9:51
Dave Cameron: Yeah, his change is pretty good.

9:51
Comment From A. Lane
http://www.fangraphs.com/bl…

9:51
Comment From semperty
How much more dangerous will the KC pen be when they add Hochevar back next year?

9:52
Dave Cameron: Isn’t he a free agent?

9:52
Dave Cameron: And even if he isn’t/weren’t, reliever performance is not static. Very good chance their pen takes a step back next year, just because relievers.

9:53
David Temple: Yep. This is why I will never be Dave Cameron (among many other reasons).

9:53
Dave Cameron: Also, you blink.

9:53
David Temple: Maybe not on TV. Haven’t checked yet.

9:54
Comment From Jamie
Does KC becomes the favorite in the series if they win this game?

9:54
Dave Cameron: Every team that wins game 1 becomes the favorite.

9:55
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Would you try Britton out as a starter next year? Throwing the FB 91% of the time worries me, makes me think he has given up on his secondary pitches. Or is that something he still works on?

9:55
Dave Cameron: He’s a reliever until he retires.

9:55
Comment From DannyRobert
Do any of you think its possible for a team to succeed without a manager and the players look out for themselves?

9:55
David Temple: I don’t know but I like the way you think.

9:56
David Temple: I mean, someone has to make the lineup and stuff. Is there a council that votes or something?

9:56
Comment From Lt. Col. Habenero
Who would make bullpen decisions?

9:57
David Temple: I guess we could go back to player/manager types or something.

9:57
Comment From Tony
You’ve heard of ‘bullpen by committee’, right? Well we made it literal.

9:57
Dave Cameron: Can you imagine the Dodgers figuring out their OF situation by themselve this year?

9:57
Dave Cameron: I’m sure Ethier would have just been like “yeah, I’ll sit, no problem.”

9:57
David Temple: It is now tied.

9:58
Comment From Glen
that was a long time coming

9:58
David Temple: I’m talking about LA/KC, in case some of you are still watching DET/BAL. I assume that’s still going on.

9:58
Dave Cameron: If that game was tied, we’d be live blogging the crap out of it.

9:59
David Temple: Oh, I just assumed the 8th was still happening.

9:59
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Noticed this in the Oriole game, why aren’t we getting the straight on view from CF all game? Seems they go to it during replay though.

10:00
Comment From Doctor Hoist
WHERE THE HELL IS THE CASTLE LIVE BLOG?!?

10:00
Dave Cameron: It’s still standing, and made of stone.

10:01
Comment From Jamie
Should I keep watching this, or switch to the Duck game in half an hour?

10:01
Comment From Jamie
Oregon

10:02
Comment From Jamie
Yes

10:02
Dave Cameron: What hideous jersey choices have the Oregon Ducks made this year to distract you from the fact that the university is funded by the sweat of four year olds?

10:02
Comment From Lt. Col. Habenero
They are wearing actual duck feathers

10:03
David Temple: Thanks for the Packers score updates in the comments. My dad should be in a good mood tomorrow. Maybe I’ll ask for money.

10:04
Comment From Jon
packers up 98 – 0 !!

10:04
David Temple: !! Indeed!

10:04
Comment From Richard
Haha, you think this poll is the absolute definition of respondent sample bias? Maybe?

10:04
Comment From Andy
DC, does taking the day off tomorrow just mean no writing for Fangraphs? Or is there another job you can play hooky from?

10:04
Dave Cameron: I’ll write something tonight to run tomorrow.

10:04
Dave Cameron: Probably on Buck Showalter’s awesome bullpen usage.

10:05
Comment From Kimball
via @BenLindbergh: Reminder: The Angels have no below-average hitters, including their no. 9 guy.

10:05
David Temple: I haven’t fact-checked that, but Ben seems smart.

10:05
Dave Cameron: They would have interviewed Jeff, but he’s currently rolling a blunt.

10:05
David Temple: DC, King of Zings.

10:05
Comment From ell oh ell
But he’s asking of FG pays you enough to live off (on?).

10:06
Dave Cameron: FG is my full time job. Same with Sullivan/Carson/Eno/Swydan/McDaniel, and of course Appelman. We’re a real business!

10:06
David Temple: My wife just texted me. She’s going to Target. Do I need anything?

10:07
Dave Cameron: Cargo shorts and a polo?

10:07
David Temple: That’s insulting, Dave.

10:08
Dave Cameron: Have you been in a Target? They actually make you change into that if you’re not wearing your own when you get there.

10:08
David Temple: I live in Minneapolis. There are Targets every 500 feet. I do know if you go there in a red shirt, at least one person will ask you where something is.

10:09
Comment From C-Mesc
How low is Cal Ripken on the list of ballplayers you’d like to watch a game with? Bottom eight?

10:09
David Temple: Higher than his brother.

10:09
Comment From Ruki
A baseball booth of Delmon Young, Yuniesky Betancourt and Michael Young. Best booth or worst booth?

10:10
David Temple: Don’t know, but I’d be willing to find out.

10:10
Comment From Glen
1. Brandon McCarthy 2. Brandon Moss 3. Adam Dunn 4. Joey Votto 5. Hunter Pence

10:10
David Temple: I hope Pence becomes an analyst SO MUCH

10:10
Dave Cameron: You wouldn’t want to watch a game with Yasiel Puig? Heathen.

10:12
Comment From Jamie
Couldn’t it be more fun in many ways to watch a game with someone who appreciates the game differently than you?

10:13
David Temple: After watching 100+ games with my father, I can attest it gets old.

10:13
David Temple: I mean, I love him. But the dude LOVES bunting.

10:13
Comment From RobN
Best games you’ve ever attended or watched?

10:14
Dave Cameron: I went to a few of the Mariners games during their 1995 comeback, including the one where they got down 6-0 early, only to have Vince Coleman hit a grand slam to lead the comeback. That was pretty fun.

10:14
Comment From semperty
Cards/Cubs, late August-2006. Gary Bennet was playing for Yadi because of an injury, and walked off with a grand slam. It was incredible.

10:14
David Temple: I’m not a real big Twins fan, but game 163 vs Tigers was a blast.

10:15
Comment From Mitch
I was at Game 1 in 86, but best game I ever saw was Phils vs. somebody in 1993 (Year of Magic). Rain delays, extra innings, game went so late they eventually opened the gates to anyone who wanted to come see the end. Mitch Williams ended up driving in the winning run

10:16
David Temple: I also went to a Jays/Astros game this year that was incredible. Jon Singleton homered. Altuve scored from first on an errant pickoff. Chris Carter stole a base. Robbie Grossman robbed a homer. It was pure joy.

10:16
Comment From Ballblaster
As a Braves fan, Chipper’s last home game was pretty great.

10:16
Comment From Glen
yanks sox game 7 03 alcs

10:16
Comment From Robert
White Sox – Angels, September 2007. Sox trail 7 to 1 after 6 1/2 innings only to come back and win on Jim Thome’s 500th home run in the 9th.

10:17
Comment From Transient Gadfly
It will never show up in the box score, it will never show up in the stats, it will never show up period. But the O’s/Tigers game was won in the 6th when Showalter brought Miller in to face the heart of the order. In the 6th. Inning.

10:17
Dave Cameron: That is actually exactly what box scores were designed to show.

10:17
Comment From Guest
I wonder if “usually you pitch as good if not better at home” is something Colorado pitchers have ever said

10:18
David Temple: There’s like a whole section for it.

10:18
Comment From semperty
If Vargas goes 5 and gives up 2, should the Royals fans be pretty happy with his performance?

10:19
Dave Cameron: Thrilled.

10:19
David Temple: If I want a lady to talk to me in a clinical way about my gentleman parts, it would not hurt if she had a British accent.

10:20
Comment From Robert
Uh.. what are you talking about david?

10:21
David Temple: Just life, in general.

10:21
Dave Cameron: I love the lack of context for people reading the transcript later, or not watching the commercials now.

10:21
Comment From Ryan
What are your expectations for Verlander tomorrow and the rest of the playoffs?

10:21
Dave Cameron: Weaver throws a belt way, down the middle curve.

10:21
Dave Cameron: Really got away with that one.

10:21
Dave Cameron: belt way = belt high.

10:21
Comment From Robert
Why didn’t Trout go after that ball?

10:21
Dave Cameron: That was… odd.

10:22
Comment From Kifah
BUNT HIM TO THIRD, BUNT HIM TO THIRD

10:22
Dave Cameron: Lost it, I guess.

10:22
Comment From Compton
Is Cistulli allowed to host chats? Or would his writing style break CIL? Seriously though, you should wrangle him into hosting one of these.

10:22
Dave Cameron: Tomorrow, 1-5 pm.

10:22
David Temple: If he wakes up in time.

10:22
Comment From semperty
Too early for Yost to be justified in bunting?

10:22
Dave Cameron: Yes.

10:23
Comment From Jamie
Any idea what the Royals bullpen strategy will be tonight?

10:23
Dave Cameron: Probably Frasor for 6, big three for 7-9.

10:24
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
No problem sending O’Day and Miller out there tomorrow right?

10:24
David Temple: Ride ’em till they buck ya.

10:24
Dave Cameron: Right. it’s the playoffs. You fire your bullets until you are out of them.

10:25
Comment From Kifah
O’s haven’t played since sunday, no reason not to run your horses out there 2 days in a row.

10:25
Dave Cameron: Another meatball.

10:26
David Temple: Gordon would’ve had third anyway, but Hamilton falling for no reason was pretty funny.

10:26
Dave Cameron: Weaver has gotten very lucky to not give up multiple dingers this inning.

10:27
Comment From Dan Gatti
Is there any evidence for the “nighttime balls don’t carry” theory?

10:27
Dave Cameron: Yep. Direct correlation between heat/humidity and batted ball distance.

10:27
Comment From A. Lane
On the multiple home runs, it is the Royals.

10:27
Comment From Richard
Yeah, science.

10:28
David Temple: More like “Yeah! Science!”

10:28
Comment From Kimball
Dave, you’ve submitted your BBWAA ballots now, right? In the end, did you feel satisfied with your manager evaluation?

10:29
Dave Cameron: I did the best I could. I looked at challenges, bullpen usage, willingness to use players out of conventional roles, and tried to gauge the respect of the clubhouse/crisis management stuff I could. And gave extra points to guys who actually had to overcome some adversity versus just rolling out the same time all year.

10:29
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
So you are telling us you voted for Buck, gotcha.

10:30
Dave Cameron: I had an NL ballot.

10:30
David Temple: Sorry, didn’t know closing the polls would post them like that.

10:31
Comment From Ryan
Looking at bREF, the league had a slightly lower SLG in day games compared to night games; does something offset the flyball distance increase in day games?

10:31
David Temple: I’m guessing the day game lineups.

10:31
Dave Cameron: Day game after night is a very common off day for a lot of regulars.

10:32
Comment From Tony
Dave. If the Cubs could do a trade for Cole Hamels with Baez being the centerpiece and then signing Lester, how good could they be next season?

10:32
Dave Cameron: A legitimate contender.

10:32
Comment From Kimball
David, it turns out you shouldn’t Google yourself. You specifically, I mean.

10:33
Dave Cameron: Crushed.

10:33
David Temple: Note: I didn’t murder my wife. Some other dude named David Temple did. Just want to make that clear.

10:33
David Temple: Also, he murdered his own wife. Not my wife.

10:34
Comment From AJT
Is there a player who doesn’t love playing in October?

10:34
Dave Cameron: Rick Ankiel.

10:34
David Temple: +1

10:34
Comment From Kifah
All David Freese does is hit homers in October, and get hurt, and not hit for power in the regular season.

10:34
Dave Cameron: Erick Aybar might have been faster if he wasn’t carrying 10 pounds of dip in his mouth.

10:35
Comment From Andy
Do players get pro-rated salary for the month of October? Wouldn’t that hurt club budgets? And if not, doesn’t that kind of suck for the players?

10:35
David Temple: I posted this because I have no idea how that works and I assume Dave does.

10:36
Dave Cameron: There’s a revenue split collectively bargained for the postseason, and the players vote on how their share should be divided. The pool grows the deeper into the postseason a team goes.

10:36
Dave Cameron: Miguel Cabrera declined his share for this year, in fact.

10:37
Comment From X
if the Cubs did a Baez + X for Hamels and signed Lester, would the A’s take McKinney and a secondary prospect for Samardzija?

10:37
Dave Cameron: No. And I don’t think the Cubs trade Baez for Hamels.

10:37
Comment From Lt. Col. Habenero
ESPN reported that that was a joke. Cabrera took his share

10:37
Comment From Catoblepas
What is there to vote on? How it’s apportioned among the different players, or what? Like, would Pujols get twice as much as Trout normally?

10:38
David Temple: Make that paper.

10:38
Dave Cameron: Not everyone gets a full share. If you started the year with another team and were traded over at the end of the year, you might get a partial share.

10:39
Comment From Ruki
Packers up 42-0 now. Deer lord.

10:39
David Temple: ALL HAIL DEER LORD

10:40
Comment From Compton
I really liked the the beer commercial about the dog and drunk driving the first few times. Now I’m just sad.

10:40
Comment From Aussie Mariner
Are we headed for extras? Does Dave C have a piece to write after tonight’s game?

10:40
Dave Cameron: If this game goes too late, you just won’t get a piece from me tomorrow after all.

10:41
Comment From Andy
Tied going into 6 is pretty good for the Royals, no? That bullpen…

10:41
Dave Cameron: Yep, this is a good outcome for KCR.

10:42
Comment From Oblarg
If you’re the Orioles, would you rather face the Royals or the Angels?

10:42
David Temple: I still think Royals. Probably.

10:42
Dave Cameron: Royals, easy.

10:43
Comment From Aussie Mariner
Do you think Yost goes to the pen now, or sticks with Vargas since it’s still tied and he’s only at 60 pitches?

10:43
Dave Cameron: No way he pulls Vargas.

10:44
Comment From AJT
Tough to fan

10:45
Comment From AJT
Yes

10:45
Comment From dgrussel
were you as amazed as I was about the MadBum CG yesterday?

10:45
David Temple: Dude was on point.

10:45
Comment From DWrek
Is that Scott Boras is the cage behind home plate? He is there every game and looks just like him.

10:45
David Temple: I notice that too! I always thought it was him. Confirmation anyone?

10:46
Dave Cameron: He lives out there.

10:46
Dave Cameron: Weaver’s agent.

10:46
Dave Cameron: Would make sense.

10:46
David Temple: In the stadium?

10:46
David Temple: Sweet crib.

10:46
Dave Cameron: Yes, he owns Angels Stadium.

10:46
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Weaver is the answer when people complain about Boras’ players always going to FA.

10:47
Dave Cameron: Andrus too.

10:47
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Didn’t Weaver also take an undervalued deal as well?

10:47
Comment From Bryan
cargo

10:47
Dave Cameron: Yeah, Weaver’s deal was light.

10:47
Comment From Kimball
Any chance that Boras made some sort of deal with Morales/Drew to reduce their risk by holding out?

10:47
Dave Cameron: There are rules about agents not being allowed to pay players, I believe.

10:49
Comment From Compton
What’s the role of the agent in the years when he’s not negotiating with the team? Like if a player signs a 10-year deal, does the agent just kinda kick it for 9 years?

10:49
Dave Cameron: They do more than just negotiate contracts. They’re basically all lawyers, and a lot of them handle marketing/promotional type stuff too.

10:50
Comment From Miles
I would imagine they take a lot of phone calls that players don’t have the time to take.

10:50
Comment From Kimball
Can remember who, now, but there’s a couple guys who just started their own shop to offer cut-rate services — contract negotiations only, something like that, no endorsements, etc. Think that will catch on?

10:50
Dave Cameron: That’s Proformance. Wendy wrote about it. I asked around and there’s a lot of skepticism that players care enough about the extra 2-3% to actually make that business model work. Players are rich. They buy back time.

10:51
Comment From dgrussel
Don’t players who are established want that guy one phone call away who can make things appear/disappear at a whim? thats why you are rich and thats why you pay someone like an agent

10:51
Dave Cameron: Yep.

10:52
Dave Cameron: Also, letting Vargas face Trout here is not great.

10:52
Comment From Guest
Can agents bail their players out of jail? and do the players have to pay that back?

10:52
David Temple: They do in TV/movies.

10:52
Dave Cameron: I know we bang the use-your-bullpen drum a lot, but Trout/Pujols against a lefty in a tie game in the playoffs is not wise.

10:53
David Temple: That was the same pitch.

10:53
Dave Cameron: He’s just throwing it to that spot hoping for random strikes.

10:54
Comment From semperty
Pop up! Thank you Mike Trout!

10:55
David Temple: This is why winning the division is good. If you’re best player(s) has a bad night, you can still make it work.

10:55
Comment From dgrussel
most people who are not considered flight risks (such as obvious public figures like professional athletes)are released on bond and not bail anyways (as long as they didn’t murder someone or something like that). And though the paper says ‘released on $5000 bond’, that doesnt mean the person released fronted that money, they just agreed to appear in court under the threat of owing that money in addition to other punishments if they didnt appear

10:55
David Temple: Knowledge bomb = dropped.

10:55
Comment From Compton
Where does Sal Perez rank in terms of snazziest looking catcher gear?

10:56
David Temple: Saw him in a bar in Minneapolis (he was at the same hotel as the SABR conference). Also dresses well in the wild.

10:56
Dave Cameron: Bars in Minneapolis are “the wild” now?

10:56
David Temple: Come up some time. Aaron Gleeman will show you a good time.

10:57
Dave Cameron: I’ve been, twice, both in the summer. It was glorious.

10:57
Comment From Art Vandelay
At Stella’s fish bar

10:57
David Temple: Exactly.

10:58
Dave Cameron: Yost going to the mound after Vargas faces the tough righties?

10:58
Dave Cameron: This was all very strange.

10:58
Dave Cameron: And now sticking with him against another righty. Okay.

10:59
Comment From Rube Waddell
At some point, you have to figure Ned Yost is just doing this to spite you, Dave.

10:59
Dave Cameron: Well then.

10:59
Comment From Guest
what the efffffff

10:59
Comment From Kifah
ROYALS BASEBALL EVERYONE

10:59
David Temple: Really thought that hit the wall at first glance.

11:00
Comment From Marc
looked like clean catch on replay

11:00
David Temple: Agreed.

11:01
Comment From Kifah
Royals baseball is the action movie where the hero walks into an ambush and somehow never gets hit.

11:01
Comment From Oblarg
Perhaps Ned Yost is actually a wizard?

11:01
Comment From Matt
Maybe Aoki had a ball in his pocket?

11:02
Comment From Skoolbolboy jim
He was behind Cain when it caught it. He couldn’t even see it, incredible!

11:02
Dave Cameron: That really is miraculous.

11:03
David Temple: Pretty fun game, right?

11:04
Dave Cameron: When scouts say a player has a long swing, they are talking about the one Hosmer just took.

11:06
Dave Cameron: Pop-up Weaver.

11:07
David Temple: Oh man, I forgot. I used to post music videos during the commercials so people had something else to watch.

11:07
David Temple: If Cameron lets me do another chat, I’ll do that.

11:07
Comment From Compton
How, exactly, does one become a popup specialist like Weaver?

11:07
Comment From dgrussel
face the Royals.

11:07
Dave Cameron: Four-seamers at the top of the zone with pinpoint command. If you’re too high, they won’t swing. Too low, it’s a dinger.

11:08
Dave Cameron: In talking with some players, they’ve expressed the notion of a thin slice of the strike zone that is kryptonite. Looks great to swing at, but hard to get the swing plane high enough to hit it squarely.

11:09
Dave Cameron: It’s how Chris Young survives, basically.

11:09
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
What can Chris Tillman do in the offseason to put hitters away? All season long, he seems to get into a lot of 8/9/10 pitch batters? Is it really just location?

11:10
Comment From Skoolbolboy jim
Chris Young survives?

11:10
Dave Cameron: Career ERA- of 93 over 1,000+ innings? Yes.

11:10
Comment From Riding the Hershey Highway
Petco and Safeco are how Chris Young survives on that plan

11:10
Dave Cameron: Infield flies are infield flies everywhere.

11:10
David Temple: I know with Phil Hughes (who has the same problem), it could have to do with the movement of his fastball and breaking stuff. His was very similar. Allowed hitters to just swing and hope.

11:11
Comment From Cole
Do you think Weaver could still be as successful pitching down in the zone

11:11
Comment From Guest
So, time to just take pitches then

11:11
David Temple: Here is something I wrote regarding that on fangraphs dot com http://www.fangraphs.com/bl…

11:11
Dave Cameron: No. Weaver’s entire game is pitching up.

11:13
Comment From benjamin
does herrera have a blister or something?

11:13
Dave Cameron: Seems likely.

11:14
Dave Cameron: Finnegan now, maybe?

11:14
Comment From Rube Waddell
Who do they roll with in Herrera’s spot if he’s a no-go from here on out?

11:14
Dave Cameron: Frasor?

11:15
Comment From Kimball
Cistulli is having quite a year, between Kluber and now Finnegan

11:15
Dave Cameron: To be fair, Finnegan was a first round pick a few months ago, and projected as a top 5 guy for a while.

11:15
Dave Cameron: So not exactly a nobody.

11:15
Comment From chuckb
Wouldn’t you use Davis or Holland now, with the leadoff runner on, tie game, bottom of the 7th?

11:15
Dave Cameron: Lefties coming up.

11:18
Comment From Guest
Any chance Finnegan gets in the rotation next year?

11:18
Dave Cameron: Strong chance, I’d say.

11:19
David Temple: Finnegan fielded that pretty well.

11:19
Dave Cameron: Awkward catch there.

11:19
Comment From semperty
Still early for bunting? Or is the 7th good?

11:19
Dave Cameron: That was fine, I think.

11:19
Comment From Oblarg
So, the Angels have sac bunted before the Royals. Opposites day?

11:20
Comment From Guest
They’ve also hit two dingers

11:20
Comment From semperty
Nah, Royals are still homer-less

11:20
Comment From semperty
The Royals haven’t hit a HR

11:20
David Temple: Point made, hive mind.

11:21
Comment From chuckb
Right call here.

11:21
Dave Cameron: Agree.

11:21
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Wasn’t here for Orioles/Tigers chat, so excuse the question if asked already. Why did Asmus keep going to the bullpen after the game was decided? Mainly going to Coke to face Markakis.

11:21
David Temple: Brad Ausmus’ bullpen decisions have come into question quite a bit all year.

11:22
Comment From Guest
Well, he’s not very smart and his bullpen isn’t any good, kind of a perfect storm.

11:22
Comment From Larry Bernandez
Because Coke is not that good

11:22
Dave Cameron: Mopup work for a mopup reliever.

11:23
David Temple: CJ Cron! He interests me.

11:23
Comment From Martie
yost hasn’t been bad these two games maybe stuck with Vargas too long but he’s been okay

11:24
David Temple: What is happening.

11:24
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I mostly agree with this. Reaction/bad decision ratio is way off.

11:24
Comment From benjamin
aoki lol

11:24
Comment From Oblarg
What on earth was that route?

11:24
Comment From chuckb
Horrendous route. Please mention that, Ernie.

11:25
Comment From Larry Bernandez
at least he caught it

11:25
Comment From Jay29
What’s the lowest Statcast route efficiency you can score while still making the catch?

11:28
Dave Cameron: Joe Smith, super underrated.

11:28
Comment From Yoopka
Do you think Joe Smith’s name contributes to him being underrated?

11:28
Dave Cameron: Absolutely.

11:29
David Temple: 2.85 FIP

11:29
David Temple: Good strand rate.

11:29
Comment From Oblarg
Joe Smith or Darren O’Day?

11:29
Dave Cameron: Smith.

11:29
Dave Cameron: But I like O’Day too.

11:30
Comment From Anonymous
I hope that was an ironic hat-tip

11:31
Comment From Not an expert
“The Royals outfield defense is great” *shows fielding percentage*

11:31
Dave Cameron: At least they aren’t wrong.

11:31
David Temple: Trout coming up third in the 8th, btw.

11:32
Comment From The Tools of Ignorance
I can’t stand this commentary, so I have the game on mute and am listening to a webcast rerun of my amateur baseball championship game last weekend…too much?

11:32
David Temple: Yep.

11:33
Comment From Rube Waddell
How far off are we from seeing more advanced statistics on national broadcasts?

11:33
Dave Cameron: ESPN uses them.

11:33
David Temple: I mean, they are still talking about the game at hand. If you want to listen to something else, fire up Spotify or something. That’s what I do when I play NHL 15.

11:33
Comment From Glen
fox sports 1 is doing that JABO simulcast deal

11:34
Dave Cameron: Right, next week.

11:34
Comment From dgrussel
are there game chats for tomorrow?

11:35
Dave Cameron: All of them.

11:35
Dave Cameron: Noon to midnight. One big long chat with rotating hosts.

11:35
Comment From Matt
Any fangraphs people among their “special guests?”

11:35
Dave Cameron: No, but Rob will be using our data a bunch.

11:36
Comment From dgrussel
you guys are awesome. who has the early game? I’m paying for FanGraphs+ mostly because I just want to financially support the site in some manner

11:36
Dave Cameron: Brad Johnson and Carson have the first shift.

11:36
Dave Cameron: And thank you!

11:37
Comment From Glen
why does no broadcaster EVER mention odorozzi?

11:37
Dave Cameron: They’ve probably never heard of him.

11:38
Dave Cameron: That looked like an easy strike.

11:38
Dave Cameron: That was basically down the middle.

11:38
Comment From Seth F.
TBS broadcaster talking about how well Perez framed that pitch…for some reason….

11:38
Dave Cameron: Perez is a bad framer too.

11:39
Comment From Kyle
You bunt they walk Trout WTF!

11:39
Dave Cameron: Yeah, don’t like the bunt here.

11:40
Dave Cameron: No way you should be bunting 2-0.

11:40
Dave Cameron: with a good hitter.

11:40
Dave Cameron: and Trout on deck.

11:41
Comment From chuckb
Surely Scioscia’s not bunting 3-1.

11:41
David Temple: Hey, I’m back. Sorry.

11:41
Dave Cameron: You would hope not.

11:41
David Temple: Ugh.

11:42
David Temple: “Bunting is almost always dumb.” – my wife.

11:42
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Easy DP if he MM let it drop too.

11:42
Comment From Guest
Thats the bunt of a player who has rarely been asked to bunt before

11:43
Comment From Compton
David still trying to convince us he didn’t kill his wife.

11:43
Comment From Andy
DT’s wife didn’t really say that…you may recall that he murdered her

11:43
David Temple: She came home from roller derby practice, saw that on tv, and stated that previous quote.

11:44
David Temple: The point is, I did OK for myself.

11:44
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Roller Derby practice? At least make it believable.

11:44
David Temple: Minnesota Roller Girls, yo!

11:44
Dave Cameron: Iannetta with a super risky advance.

11:44
Dave Cameron: Stop trying to make outs in front of Mike Trout.

11:45
Comment From Joe
When David actually kills her, this transcript is going to be so much less funny.

11:45
Comment From Seth F.
Man, if they had thrown him out they could have given an assist the the umpire’s balls.

11:45
David Temple: I know this is morbid, but she would find it humorous.

11:46
Comment From Brian
Fastball up, strike three

11:46
Comment From benjamin
fastball not far enough up, 4-2

11:47
Comment From Oblarg
There should be a rule against stepping out twice between pitches.

11:47
Dave Cameron: MLB testing out new no-step-out rules in AFL this year.

11:48
Dave Cameron: Off the ump again.

11:48
Dave Cameron: Poor guy.

11:49
Comment From Kimball
Trout made contact with a high strike!

11:49
Dave Cameron: I think everyone in the park knows that Davis wants to go hard/up here.

11:50
Comment From AJT
Great AB by Trout

11:50
Comment From benjamin
i’d warm up holland right now

11:50
Comment From LGAngels27
Pujols is going to GDP somehow.

11:50
David Temple: Is Mike Scioscia having a hot flash?

11:50
Dave Cameron: He does that a lot.

11:50
Comment From Compton
Maybe not the worst thing in the world to walk Trout there?

11:50
Dave Cameron: Puts go ahead run at second, though.

11:51
Comment From semperty
Go ahead run was already at 2B

11:51
Dave Cameron: Right, my bad.

11:52
Comment From Yoopka
Angels hitters are gonna make this a 12 hour game at this rate

11:52
Dave Cameron: The Red Sox approve.

11:52
Comment From semperty
Herrera with “fore arm tightness”, by the way.

11:52
Dave Cameron: That’s not great.

11:52
Dave Cameron: forearm tightness often means TJ surgery.

11:53
Dave Cameron: Infante almost whiffed on that.

11:54
Comment From chuckb
No infield fly called there? Thoughts, Braves fans?

11:54
David Temple: Swing hard in case you hit it.

11:54
Comment From chuckb
Luckily that hanger hung a little too high

11:55
Comment From benjamin
davis made kendrick look foolish in that AB

11:55
Comment From Anonymous
Wade Davis is a bad, bad man

11:56
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
So do you FGs fellas believe that no relief pitcher should get a 3 year deal? And is there any reliever you might break that mold for?

11:56
Dave Cameron: No, we don’t believe that.

11:57
Comment From semperty
Do you save Holland to face the top of the order, or use him vs. Beckham/Aybar/Hamilton?

11:57
Dave Cameron: I’d probably mix and match in the 9th, save Holland for the good hitters.

11:57
Dave Cameron: But have him warming in case the mixing and matching isn’t working.

11:58
Comment From Guest
Dave, are relievers undervalued in the playoffs? Is say, Andrew Miller more valuable than a starter if you can manage the bullpen correctly in the playoffs?

11:58
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I’ve written about this. Relievers are more valuable than one start starters in October, so you’d rather have a relief ace than a #4 starter if given the choice.

11:59
Comment From semperty
Does a relief ace and #4 starter cost the same?

11:59
Dave Cameron: Roughly, yes.

11:59
Dave Cameron: Though you can develop relief aces for cheap.

12:00
Comment From AJT
Escobar looked awful

12:00
Dave Cameron: He has a really loopy swing on breaking balls, but it worked earlier.

12:01
Comment From chuckb
Possible that Wacha could be that relief ace for the Cards this year or is that just me wishcasting.?

12:01
Dave Cameron: Depends on health, probably. Using a guy with recent arm problems aggressively on back-to-back days might be tough.

12:02
Dave Cameron: Collins warming, so he’s probably the pick.

12:02
Dave Cameron: With Holland as insurance.

12:02
Dave Cameron: Which is what I’d do.

12:03
David Temple: Whew. That was close.

12:03
Dave Cameron: Kinda lazy there, Albert.

12:03
Comment From LGAngels27
Stop jogging, Pujols.

12:04
Comment From Kimball
If you knew that one game today would be a blowout, and the other a pitcher’s duel tied in the ninth, would you have picked correctly?

12:04
Dave Cameron: Probably would have picked the other game as a blowout but other direction.

12:08
Dave Cameron: Not sure that hit him.

12:08
David Temple: It didn’t.

12:10
Comment From Guest
how on earth yost didnt challenge the HBP this late in the game? save it for what?

12:10
Dave Cameron: Agree.

12:10
Dave Cameron: Use it.

12:11
Comment From Guest
Remember when Josh Hamilton was good?

12:12
David Temple: Tim Collins – Just a little bit taller than his teammates standing on the first step of the dugout.

12:12
Comment From Oblarg
So, at this point which Hamilton would you rather have? Josh or Billy?

12:12
Dave Cameron: Billy, not close.

12:12
David Temple: Not even.

12:12
Comment From someone
I could have sworn Collins was a submariner. Am I crazy?

12:12
Dave Cameron: He’s really short, so his normal delivery looks sidearm.

12:13
Comment From chuckb
Almost rather have Alexander Hamilton

12:13
David Temple: I was discussing with a friend how much $ Hamilton was still owed and he straight-up called me a liar. Would not believe it.

12:13
Dave Cameron: Contract is backloaded too.

12:13
Dave Cameron: Makes $30M per year at the end.

12:14
Dave Cameron: Frasor, not Holland.

12:14
Dave Cameron: Heh.

12:16
Comment From dgrussel
Ripken speaks on average once every 7 minutes

12:16
Dave Cameron: I’m okay with this.

12:18
Comment From dgrussel
do these announcers get paid as wildly as I imagine for doing these games?

12:19
David Temple: I’m sure it’s absurd.

12:19
Dave Cameron: Walking CJ Cron isn’t so easy.

12:20
Comment From James
Can’t be as much as you two I’m sure.

12:20
David Temple: TBS can’t afford us.

12:20
Dave Cameron: Speak for yourself.

12:20
Comment From semperty
That was insane. If Frasor doesn’t touch the ball, that’s game.

12:21
David Temple: I say this with no snark: I think Dave would be a great color guy. His view of the game is unmatched.

12:22
David Temple: I mean, maybe some classes would be in order, but baseball comes so easy to him. He’d be great.

12:22
David Temple: (Dave C has no input in my pay)

12:22
Dave Cameron: I would be a terrible color guy.

12:23
Dave Cameron: I talk insanely fast. I stumble over words. My voice cracks. I make nerdy jokes that no one laughs at.

12:23
David Temple: I really think you’d be good. I’m not kissing butt. Well, I would love it at least.

12:23
Dave Cameron: I would be a disaster, but thanks for the butt kissing.

12:23
David Temple: Perhaps you would not test well. If we could beam your thoughts into someone else, perhaps.

12:24
David Temple: I think that’s what I’m getting at. I just want your brain.

12:24
Dave Cameron: You can have it when I die. But you can’t kill me like you did my wife.

12:24
David Temple: But that dog would have to go 🙂

12:25
Dave Cameron: Your wife.

12:25
Dave Cameron: See, I screw up jokes.

12:25
Comment From Martie
There’s a very good game going on guys

12:25
Dave Cameron: Someone struck out. News at 11.

12:25
David Temple: Oh, we’re mostly paying attention.

12:26
Comment From Steve
Fangraphs just got a shot out on ESPN Radio.

12:26
Dave Cameron: Probably Jon Sciambi. He’s awesome.

12:26
Comment From eric w
prediction – how many innings?

12:26
David Temple: 12

12:26
Dave Cameron: 13.

12:26
Comment From Doctor Hoist
quit flirting

12:26
Comment From semperty
18. I’m going with 18 innings. Final answer.

12:26
Dave Cameron: I will not live blog 18.

12:27
Dave Cameron: Just saying it ahead of time.

12:27
David Temple: Oh I will. I give very little attention to my real job.

12:27
Comment From Only potatoes
whats your real job?

12:27
Dave Cameron: Jepsen’s pitches this at-bat: middle-middle or almost to the backstop.

12:28
David Temple: Very boring IT stuff.

12:28
Dave Cameron: Anything but a walk by Butler there would have been grounds for extermination.

12:28
Dave Cameron: Terrance Gore.

12:28
Dave Cameron: He’s going to run.

12:28
David Temple: It’s almost guaranteed.

12:29
Comment From Anonymous
I believe it’s ‘Grounds for termination’. Extermination seems a bit extreme for a baseball play.

12:29
Dave Cameron: I meant what I said.

12:30
Dave Cameron: Not even taking a big lead.

12:30
Dave Cameron: Interesting.

12:30
David Temple: No chance.

12:31
Comment From morF
Does he steal third here?

12:31
Dave Cameron: I would.

12:31
Comment From York
Why is he carrying his gloves?

12:31
David Temple: Some guys do that so they don’t bust up their fingers. Makes them slide knuckles first.

12:31
Dave Cameron: He liked Willie Mays Hayes.

12:32
Comment From Oblarg
What would you think of a double-steal here?

12:32
Dave Cameron: I wouldn’t risk Gordon running.

12:32
Dave Cameron: Just have Gore take third.

12:33
David Temple: This is a good baseball game.

12:33
Comment From chuckb
Gordon should run if Gore goes. Pujols is nowhere near the bag & he can get a huge jump.

12:33
Dave Cameron: True.

12:34
David Temple: “Big Out”

12:34
Dave Cameron: Indeed.

12:34
Dave Cameron: Steal is off the table now too.

12:34
Dave Cameron: Or should be at least.

12:35
David Temple: One would think.

12:35
Dave Cameron: New school is not “get to third, there’s so many other ways to score”

12:35
Dave Cameron: Sorry.

12:36
Dave Cameron: Infante swinging at a pitch over his head.

12:37
David Temple: So close.

12:39
Comment From Kimball
Do you find it weird that damn-you-nerdy-bloggers-in-your-basements follow you on Twitter?

12:39
David Temple: Nobody follows me on Twitter.

12:39
Dave Cameron: People like to troll.

12:39
David Temple: Same reason I follow JPM.

12:40
David Temple: Restroom time!

12:40
Comment From Tracy
Rest of Career: Bryan Cranston or Leonardo Dicaprio?

12:40
David Temple: Leo.

12:42
Dave Cameron: And apparently it’s going to be Duffy against the heart of the LAA order.

12:42
Dave Cameron: Which is mostly RH.

12:42
Dave Cameron: Not great, Ned. Not great.

12:42
David Temple: I love Cranston, but imagine Leo when he’s 50-60. Dude’s gonna out-Brando Brando.

12:43
David Temple: Anyway, baseball.

12:44
Comment From KK-Swizzle
So this means we won’t see Holland, unless the Royals get a lead, right? Isn

12:44
Dave Cameron: Right. This is Duffy until Royals get lead or lose.

12:45
Comment From Adam
What is the “business end” of a baseball?

12:45
Dave Cameron: We need a physics professor for this. Get Alan Nathan.

12:45
David Temple: Cistulli.

12:45
Comment From baseball
You don’t think Yost would get fired in the offseason?

12:46
David Temple: God, no.

12:46
Dave Cameron: No way.

12:46
Comment From Joe
I love the huge ball boy.

12:47
David Temple: Proof that hyphens or commas can really impact a sentence.

12:49
David Temple: Joe (in the comments) – I hear your argument, but this is not the place. Perhaps some other time.

12:49
Dave Cameron: Trout missed a meatball.

12:49
Comment From Claymag69
Hard not to want a Mike Trout hero post-season moment..

12:49
Comment From Anonymous
Posting from the future. You guys are going to LOVE how this game ends…

12:50
Comment From someone
Mike Trout theft of home. calling it.

12:50
Dave Cameron: Duffy gets Trout out with low-inside fastballs.

12:50
David Temple: You heard it from someone…

12:50
Dave Cameron: Trout kills low-inside fastballs.

12:52
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Any chance Trout runs here?

12:52
Comment From Rob, Baltimore
Any chance Trout runs here?

12:52
David Temple: I don’t see it.

12:52
Dave Cameron: Seems like no.

12:52
Dave Cameron: With two outs, though, he should go.

12:52
Dave Cameron: Cost of a CS is now quite low.

12:52
Comment From Grandpa Cistulli
What’s the deal with Trout not stealing as much this year?

12:52
Dave Cameron: He got slower.

12:53
David Temple: (and bigger)

12:53
Dave Cameron: Those are related…

12:53
David Temple: Nodding.

12:54
Comment From Pennsy
Is Trout really the best player in MLB, by far, going into 2015? I always thought so much of his value was tied into his well-roundedness.

12:54
Dave Cameron: If you think defense isn’t worth much, you could argue for Kershaw.

12:54
Dave Cameron: But it’s one of those two.

12:55
Comment From Zach
It looks like Trout still runs well though

12:55
Dave Cameron: Trout-lite. Great player, but worse version of same skillset.

12:55
Comment From Oblarg
What about McCutchen?

12:56
David Temple: My laptop is at 6% battery. Time to find the charger.

12:57
Dave Cameron: I’m at 12%.

12:58
Comment From SF Dave
6% battery on a laptop is about 45 seconds. That gives DC about 90 to find a charger and keep us connected

12:59
Comment From captain obvious
“it’s one of those two.” over the past 3 years, trout has kershaw beat by almost 10 WAR. the difference between trout and kershaw over that period is the same as the difference between kershaw and phil hughes.

1:00
Dave Cameron: Trout has been better. Trout might not be better going forward, by a lot.

1:00
Dave Cameron: And I did put in that the argument would require that you don’t put much value on defense.

1:00
David Temple: Oh boy.

1:00
Comment From Ruki
SOLO ROYALS!

1:01
Comment From Doctor Hoist
wow

1:01
Comment From SF Dave
I knew it coming out of ST!

1:01
Comment From Compton
Moose?!

1:02
David Temple: Eno thought Hosmer hit that.

1:03
Comment From eric w
same stupid haircut

1:03
Comment From SF Dave
Eno’s had a few libations

1:04
Comment From semperty
Also, for the Trout/Kershaw debate, going by RA9-WAR it’s like 5 WAR the last 3 seasons, not quite 10 wins.

1:06
David Temple: Regardless, I’m excited for the game tomorrow.

1:06
Comment From Andy
now the Angels have a sac bunt and the Royals have a homer. Happy?

1:08
David Temple: Aoki out 🙁

1:08
Dave Cameron: It’s not hard to believe that they would take out Aoki, Ron Darling. We watched him run.

1:09
Comment From Joe
I just got the Eno/Hosmer joke.

1:09
Comment From semperty
The fact that the Royals defense is good enough to force Cain to RF gives me the warm-fuzzies all over.

1:10
Dave Cameron: Gordon Beckham was a very good hitter in college. He looked like he couldn’t hit a college pitcher today.

1:11
Dave Cameron: Maybe stop swinging at pitches thrown 50 feet?

1:12
Comment From Fletch
Nasty.

1:12
Comment From SF Dave
Terrable

1:12
Comment From Anonymous
Greg Holland, you naaaasty

1:12
Comment From Adam
whoa, terrible

1:12
Dave Cameron: So it’s a 50/50 nasty/terrible split.

1:12
David Temple: Not a swing.

1:13
Dave Cameron: You have to at least go to third base ump.

1:13
David Temple: Right?

1:13
David Temple: Well, then.

1:14
Dave Cameron: The Royals have some more magic.

1:14
David Temple: I guess that’s it for us.

1:14
Dave Cameron: Thanks for hanging out with us everyone.

1:14
Dave Cameron: Come back tomorrow for one crazy long live blog.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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hookstrapped
10 years ago

Those lucky Orioles