3:06 |
Dave Cameron: The schedule for today’s live blogs: Wendy Thurm and August Fagerstrom have the Orioles/Tigers game, and then I’ll be joined by David Temple for the Royals/Angels game at 9:30. We’ve got ~7 hours of baseball in front of us. Let’s have a good time.
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5:27 |
Comment From AlexHi Wendy!
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5:27 |
Comment From SantiagoCan the Royals make a this a competitive series? Can they get to a fifth game?
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5:28 |
Wendy Thurm: Royals’ opening is with the Angels’ starters. But Angels have same opening with Royals’ starters and have a much more potent offense. It does appear to be a mismatch, but that’s why you play the game.
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5:29 |
Comment From Bil TharpeI bet the royals wish they hadn’t traded away Wil Meyers for a 2 year Shields rental. I mean their fan base must be so upset right now.
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5:30 |
Wendy Thurm: Royals traded for strong starting pitching and it worked. A’s did same and it didn’t work. All we can do is make projections based on the best available info.
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5:30 |
August Fagerstrom: Hi people! I’ve never done this before so I hope I’m not a complete failure! Hi Wendy!
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5:30 |
Comment From BrandonHow many times through the O’s lineup can Scherzer go before he’s as bad as the Tigers’ bullpen
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5:32 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperWhat is a Fagerstrom
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5:32 |
Comment From Tylerwhat the O/U on bunts in the KC/LAA game tonight?
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5:32 |
August Fagerstrom: Ohp, that looks different from what the rest of the responses.
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5:33 |
Wendy Thurm: I’ll peg the O/U on bunts tonight at 3.5. Taking the over.
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5:33 |
Comment From PennsyFor that matter, what’s a Thurm?
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5:34 |
Comment From TylerWho do you like in the first game?
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5:34 |
August Fagerstrom: For what it’s worth, Orioles and Tigers were both in the bottom 10 in sac bunting this year. Think Ned might be blazing the trail on that one
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5:35 |
Comment From PennsyWhere do you stand on retiring 21 across the league in honor of Roberto Clemente?
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5:35 |
Comment From MichaelHe said Royals/Angels. God Fagerstrom, get it together
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5:36 |
Wendy Thurm: Interesting idea. I like giving teams the opportunity to honor their players, and let the league do it for the greats. I’d be inclined against, but don’t feel strongly about Clemente.
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5:37 |
Comment From TylerThanks Wendy, that’s what I wanted to hear 🙂 How important do you think it is for the Tigers to have a lead before going to the bullpen?
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5:37 |
Comment From MichaelWho’s able to make it a closer series, Orioles or Royals?
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5:38 |
Comment From BrandonAs few as 3200 tigers exist in the wild today
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5:38 |
Comment From SantiagoHow do you explain Steve Pearce and Nelson Cruz?
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5:39 |
August Fagerstrom: Hey look, baseball!
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5:39 |
Comment From Da BearWhich MLB manager will be first to advocate for a 30-man roster with 9 DHs?
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5:39 |
Comment From JakeHow much of the game do you guys miss tending to this chat?
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5:40 |
Comment From DeGroms HairWhat’s your guys’ ideal World Series matchup this October?
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5:40 |
August Fagerstrom: Out of the AL, I’d love to see the Royals make it because of the story, or the Angels make it because Trout
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5:41 |
Wendy Thurm: I don’t have an ideal matchup, although as a Giants fans, I’d prefer to not see either the Dodgers or the Cardinals in the WS.
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5:42 |
August Fagerstrom: 33% of Tillman’s pitches this season were fastballs in the upper-third. Can you tell?
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5:43 |
Comment From ChristianHopefully this is a good Wendy question and quasi relevant: With Chris Davis’s assertion he had an exception for Adderall last year and just didn’t get one this year, how does that happen? As someone that takes a similar medication it’s not really something you stop taking. Seems like between Chris, his agent, and the Orioles they wouldn’t let the exception lapse. Is there something weird where the MLB would take away his exception or is this just an excuse that doesn’t hold up?
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5:43 |
Comment From CoryWho is more legit, Steve Pearce or JD Martinez?
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5:43 |
Comment From SeanWhy would a Giants fan not like the Cradinals?
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5:44 |
Comment From MichaelOrioles/Nats is our last hope at a wacky, good World Series
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5:44 |
August Fagerstrom: Wow. That curve after all those high fastballs
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5:44 |
Wendy Thurm: Chris Tillman is a bit amped up.
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5:44 |
August Fagerstrom: And then right back to the heat. Hi, Chris Tillman.
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5:45 |
Comment From Grandpa CistulliCamden Yards seems like it’d help Cruz, but have you noticed he hit 25 of his 40 HRs away, with an OPS about .150 higher?
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5:45 |
Comment From JakeHas their ever been a postseason rotation with 3 consecutive Cy Young Award winners such as the Tigers’?
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5:46 |
Comment From JakeBy the sounds of it, we would be intrigued by a world series with any two of the remaining teams involved.
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5:47 |
Comment From PennsyAm I incorret in thinking it’s supposed to be “Game(s) One,” or just pedantic?
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5:47 |
Comment From HelberWhich team (other than the A’s) has the most trouble with high heat? Wonderful inning by Tillman
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5:48 |
Comment From Grandpa CistulliIt’s not 3 consecutive Cy Youngs, but considering Verlander shouldn’t count anymore, Kershaw-Greinke is at least 2!
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5:48 |
Comment From CorryI think a Angels – Dodgers WS would be most entertaining. Giants – A’s would have been fine as well.
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5:48 |
August Fagerstrom: Tigers, as a team, actually hit the high heat well this year. .378 SLG was seventh-best in MLB
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5:49 |
August Fagerstrom: Funny enough, nobody hit high fastballs quite like the Orioles (.437 SLG, 30 points better than second place)
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5:49 |
Comment From Tylerdo you think scherzer gets a similar deal to what cain got?
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5:50 |
Comment From JonHow did Markakis go from star to somewhat okay player?
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5:50 |
August Fagerstrom: Power disappearing didn’t help, either
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5:51 |
Comment From DeGroms HairI remember the name Fagerstrom for when Conan O’Brien went to Finland for an episode
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5:51 |
Comment From PuckHerRightInTheFussy2 strikes lost to framing already
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5:51 |
Comment From Seth FWhat’s your predicted W/L record for the Tigers bullpen this postseason?
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5:52 |
August Fagerstrom: Wonder if that’s the most inside/outside pitch Scherzer has thrown all year. Something tells me it is.
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5:53 |
Comment From JakeOh boy Jones..maybe take a pitch there.
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5:53 |
Wendy Thurm: Boom goes Cruz
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5:53 |
August Fagerstrom: I bet Dave’s glad he switched chat times today. He’d be getting hammered with “Nelson Cruz worst FA signing” comments right now.
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5:53 |
Comment From Guestso who gives Cruz 4/60 this offseason
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5:54 |
August Fagerstrom: Wow, if Cruz and Pearce went back-to-back off Scherzer with two outs in the first that would have been sooo Orioles
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5:54 |
Comment From Tylerthe phillies probably
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5:54 |
Comment From SeanThe Mariners
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5:55 |
Comment From Grandpa Cistulli1997 NLDS featured Braves with Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz. Each had at least 1 Cy Young by that point, and each got the win in their game on the way to a series sweep.
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5:55 |
Comment From Pale HoseThe 1997 Braves playoff team had six consecutive Cy Young winners (Glavine, Maddux, Maddux, Maddux, Maddux, Smoltz).
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5:56 |
Comment From DJust how on earth did Cruz not get picked up by anyone for more than 10 million, while Choo got 100?
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5:56 |
Comment From JakeWould O’s be World Series favorites with Machado, Weiters, and Davis?
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5:56 |
August Fagerstrom: Cruz had a great season, but he’s still not a very attractive free agent, TBH
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5:57 |
August Fagerstrom: Choo was coming off a .423 OBP season, can run the bases and hasn’t graded out terribly in the corners. Nobody could have seen the season he had coming
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5:58 |
Wendy Thurm: Lots of comments saying Mariners will sign Cruz
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5:58 |
Comment From Maddux, Smoltz, GlavineSince we all know pitching wins championships, I’m not even going to bother looking up how many they won. All of them, assuredly.
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5:59 |
August Fagerstrom: Cruz and Martinez to lead the way, who could have guessed?!
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5:59 |
Comment From MarkWelcome to Camden Yards everybody!
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5:59 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperJust because a player isn’t an attractive free agent doesn’t mean there aren’t one or teams who will stupidly overpay him
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5:59 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperWhy is Victor Martinez good again
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6:00 |
Comment From Tylerwhoever is doing the PBP has already shown more emotion than ernie johnson
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6:01 |
August Fagerstrom: Can I repost the comment that said “Welcome to Camden Yards everybody”?
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6:01 |
Wendy Thurm: Astros let JD Martinez go. Still crazy
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6:01 |
August Fagerstrom: Chris Tillman: career 1.26 HR/9
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6:01 |
Comment From ItsmidnighthereDo pitchers who are about to be a FA and perform well in the postseason get more money?
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6:02 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperWill there be more home runs in this game than there will be Royals bunts in the next?
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6:02 |
Comment From HawkWhere would the Tigers be without the Kinsler trade?
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6:03 |
Comment From BrandonHonestly these were home runs in most ballparks
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6:03 |
Comment From Grandpa CistulliVictor Martinez never had this much power. Is it because of the move off of catcher, you think?
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6:04 |
Comment From K-ManWhat are your favourite Postseason-coverage quirks? Love me some swearing picked up by on-field mics and awkward broadcasters’ apologies
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6:05 |
Comment From HowieIs there a type of pitcher that defies the worse-every-time-through-the-order?
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6:05 |
Comment From Alpha-QNDDoDickey has a huge times through the ordr penalty actually
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6:07 |
August Fagerstrom: So many fly balls.
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6:07 |
Comment From Corrywhere could one go to find stats on 2nd and 3rd time through the order?
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6:08 |
Comment From JonCan you post a screenshot of how many questions you are looking at at one time?
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6:10 |
Comment From Pretty good, whos that fagoot with a tuba?B-ref splits page has times through the order explicitly. It’s called “Times Facing Opponent in Game”
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6:12 |
Comment From HowieI feel like a deep repertoire would help, or just nasty stuff
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6:13 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperHow many people are in the chat?
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6:15 |
Comment From JonI wonder how many days in a row Mike Trout has been one of the 10 players in the drop down box when you go to search for players on Fangraphs
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6:15 |
Comment From WassI think Royals chat topped out at 2300.
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6:15 |
Comment From fatsDon’t you hate when the team you want to lose has great uniforms?
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6:16 |
Comment From GuestRoyals chat hit 2900 at the peak afaik.
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6:17 |
Comment From Gila MonsterHey Wendy, I feel like some idiot gave you a lot of **** on the Player of the Year article. I personally think your articles are some of the best and well written on the site. Thank You for being here.
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6:17 |
Comment From WassWas anyone else disappointed when Castellanos ruined the Tigers’ chances for a perfect 3 true outcomes game?
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6:18 |
Comment From grammaCream of wheat or oatmeal?
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6:18 |
Comment From DylanHow much money did Hardy cost himself this season? I fell like he went from an “elite FA shortstop” to almost a qualifying offer guy in one season…
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6:19 |
Comment From Jeff ArthurTo make it to the LCS in the last 20 years you needed to be either 1 or 2 in spending in your division. Like, 95% of LCS teams were 1 or 2. Why? And does Baltimore beat those odds?
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6:20 |
Comment From AlexWhy is Verlander starting in game two?
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6:21 |
Comment From grammaIsn’t defensive war into your 30’s tough to count on continuing?
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6:22 |
August Fagerstrom: Max Scherzer’s elbow just entered the Matrix
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6:22 |
Comment From Jeff ArthurWendy, now that we have you live chatting, what would it take to make you the next commissioner? And what would you change first? You would clearly be awesome at that job.
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6:22 |
Comment From K-ManWill Ausmus use A. Sanchez like a setup man or a traditional longman?
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6:23 |
Comment From TonyAusmus said the reason was to not have too long of a layoff in throwing for Verlander (his last start was last Wednesday).
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6:23 |
Comment From MarkFor what it’s worth, the Game 3 starter would be on normal rest for Game 1 of the LCS.
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6:23 |
Comment From JonI really like staying with the center field camera on singles up the middle– that was a nice view
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6:24 |
Comment From Gila MonsterSpeaking of that,Have you every though about going into business with a baseball agent? You have an elite level education(unfortunately still valued over skill in legal/business fields) and you obviously have terrific understand of off the field and on the field baseball matters.Scott Boras would be lucky to have you.
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6:24 |
Comment From JonI like the way you spell your name, Jon
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6:25 |
August Fagerstrom: Markakis’d
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6:25 |
Comment From JacobCan Verlander survive 6 innings tomorrow?
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6:27 |
Wendy Thurm: This start to the game is really going to test Ausmus’ bullpen management, which was not great this season.
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6:27 |
Comment From JonDoes this mean Scherzer will only get a QO now?
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6:27 |
Comment From grammaTBS needs a pitch count on the screen, so used to it now
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6:29 |
August Fagerstrom: Last home game, that is
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6:30 |
Comment From JonOkay google, how much should we regress defensive statistics when calculating WAR?
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6:31 |
Comment From JonAre you able to mentally recalculate what a player’s WAR should be once you have halved the UZR?
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6:32 |
Comment From RWhich broadcast is it that has the defensive positioning in the corner between pitches? I see it occasionally when MLB Network does live look-ins and it is amazing.
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6:32 |
August Fagerstrom: Well if you take a +20 run defender and make it +10, you can knock off about a win. From 10 to 5 knocks off about half a win. Doesn’t have to be exact
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6:32 |
Comment From AlexIf Phile Coke faces a right handed batter in this game how drinks should I have?
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6:32 |
Comment From Jon“how drinks should I have” sounds like you’re already deep enough
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6:35 |
Comment From AlexI’m actually just about to leave work I’m just already dreading the bullpen decision making given how Scherzer is pitching right now. Probably beer.
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6:35 |
Comment From grampaIs keeping hitters in the batters box a fair way of speeding up the game?
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6:35 |
Comment From Seth FHow long do you think until we start hearing about pitch framing on national television broadcasting?
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6:36 |
August Fagerstrom: I don’t think they ever cite him by name but they cite the same numbers and concepts that are clearly from his article.
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6:36 |
Wendy Thurm: Kinsler doing the lead off job beautifully with this AB.
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6:36 |
Comment From Jonto be fair, I’m on beer number 3
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6:37 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperI don’t think pitch framing itself is really a “non-traditional” sort of concept its just that no one ever thought it could be quantified.
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6:38 |
August Fagerstrom: Jesus, this at-bat
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6:38 |
Comment From K-ManDavid Cone does it on YES
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6:38 |
Comment From grampaCone loves Fangraphs etc on YES for the Yankees, Mets guys are a bit slower to embrace…Keith Hernandez loves wins
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6:39 |
Comment From Gila MonsterOk guys. How much should framing matter? I’ve been a Lucroy advocate for player of the year/NL MVPe. Including framing, he should be worth close to 9 WAR as BP says he has saved close to 24 runs.. If you half it, he is one level with Trout/Kershaw. Take it away, still a top 30 catching season of all time, especially considering the “intangibles” like calling a game/physical demand. What do you guys think? Is it that hard to believe a defensive player involved in EVERY pitch more unreliable than normal defensive metrics?
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6:39 |
August Fagerstrom: torii hunter 2-out bunt for hit?
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6:39 |
Comment From StevenKinsler didn’t do the lead-off job very well there, since I’m pretty sure the job is getting ob base.
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6:40 |
Comment From MarkDoes talking about the process of framing without citing run values count? Because Dan Dickerson has mentioned it a couple times this game on Tigers radio.
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6:40 |
Comment From K-Manpls don’t comment on game action, I’m 20 seconds behind
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6:42 |
Comment From RIs there somewhere that has what percentage of pitches a pitcher throws end up as foul balls? Cause Tillman has to be up there
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6:43 |
Comment From StevenWendy, I just get annoyed with this idea that fouling off pitches is really that important.
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6:43 |
August Fagerstrom: Phil Hughes led the league in foul balls by five (!) percentage points. He was at 25%, Kershaw was second at 20%
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6:44 |
Comment From EngineerinSFHey Wendy, I liked your article on the technology in stadiums, but felt personal comfort was neglected. Do teams underestimate how important thermal and visual comfort are to the viewing experience? Thanks
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6:44 |
Comment From guyThat was the most Adam Jones at bat ever
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6:44 |
Comment From MitchA&W, have you guys ever met? If not, do you even know each virtually very well or is this like an awkward Skype first date with the whole world watching?
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6:45 |
August Fagerstrom: She seems great though and is an excellent writer
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6:46 |
Comment From grampaAugust: Mets overtake #Natitude in ’15? Wild card? Or 7th losing season in a row?
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6:46 |
Comment From MitchUnder current FG thinking, that you should go to the bullpen very early in a playoff game, doesn’t driving up the pitch count matter a lot less?
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6:46 |
August Fagerstrom: It will be interesting to see what they do in the offseason to lineup/bullpen
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6:46 |
Comment From SF DaveWait… We’re going to refrain from talking about the game real time because some guy has the game paused and is 2 pitches behind? It’s a commercial K-Man. Fast forward
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6:47 |
August Fagerstrom: Sorry K-Man
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6:47 |
Comment From JonWendy, why do you think that Kinsler’s atbat was positive? Sure he had a lot of foul tips but he didn’t get on base.
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6:48 |
Comment From mattwith pitch framing data becoming a thing, will it be reflected in FIP?
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6:49 |
Comment From BDFI would like to be clear that my comment about Wendy on the POTY article was mocking the original commenter insulting her. I thought signing off “semper fudge” would give it away.
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6:50 |
Comment From MikeWhich city left in the playoffs has the best food?
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6:50 |
Comment From JonDo you guys play fantasy?
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6:51 |
Wendy Thurm: A lot of you think more than 6 relievers will be used. Unless we go extras, I can’t see that
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6:52 |
Comment From JonBut how many leagues did you play in?
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6:52 |
Comment From JonThat’s relievers total right?
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6:53 |
Comment From Seth FSince we’ve had like 3 questions on that one Kinsler AB, why not another one: Do you think broken bats have an affect on anything? Or is it just the result of a bad swing?
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6:53 |
Comment From JonHow old are you, August? You must have inherited a team I assume
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6:54 |
August Fagerstrom: This game is so Chris Tillman. Everything is good save for a couple costly singers
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6:54 |
August Fagerstrom: dingers, damnit autocorrect
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6:54 |
Comment From SF DavePIT? For Food? it’s better than Hotdogs and popcorn but have you been to AT&T? Hands down the best food and I’ve been to 22 of the 30. Then again, I like variety and fresh, non processed stuff.
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6:54 |
Comment From Jondoes this chat have autocorrect?
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6:56 |
Wendy Thurm: 5 more minutes on the poll. Want to make sure we end the poll before the first reliever.
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6:56 |
Comment From Boner JamzAT&T Park does have excellent food….But San Diego beats it in terms of beer
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6:57 |
Comment From Stringer BellAugust being a year younger than me makes me feel like a failure
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6:58 |
Comment From Queef pulverizerHow hot is Mila?
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6:58 |
Comment From GuestWhat are you studying August?
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6:59 |
Comment From Doc Ellistell us about getting into the industry august. what did you do
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7:00 |
Wendy Thurm: Ungroomed Brett Favre >>>>>>>>> groomed Brett Favre
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7:00 |
Comment From .Good luck man. I’m rooting for you. Your ability to write and a cool name will take you far
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7:01 |
Comment From GuestAre you sure there wasn’t any blackmail involved August?
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7:02 |
Comment From Section329If you eliminate Fenway and Wrigley AT+T=best stadium.
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7:02 |
Comment From StephenChance Nelson Cruz declines a QO? I could see many teams interested in him as a good DH.
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7:02 |
August Fagerstrom: Coors is beautiful too. Can’t beat Wrigley or Fenway for the atmosphere, but to be honest Wrigley is a dump (sorry cubs fans i love them too)
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7:03 |
Comment From KimballIf a contract has a team option that the team declines, can itthen make a QO to try to get draft pick compensation? Seems like it’s against the spirit, and might spawn a grievance, but is it actually against the rules?
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7:03 |
Comment From SF DaveYou can’t fit in a Beantown seat unless you are 5′ 6″
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7:04 |
Wendy Thurm: Closing the poll after this half inning.
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7:04 |
Comment From BobMy prediction: Tigers will win this game without ever putting a man on base.
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7:04 |
Comment From MattFenway is in a great location with a great atmosphere, but the stadium itself is still too small and kinda a dump.
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7:04 |
Comment From SF DaveI have to go pick up the kids now. Please don’t talk about the game at all until I return and catch up. I don’t want it spoiled.
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7:05 |
Comment From Boner JamzThis game needs more steals and bunts
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7:05 |
August Fagerstrom: definitely the wrong question
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7:05 |
Comment From Boner JamzWhat are your guys’ spirit animals?
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7:06 |
August Fagerstrom: I think you’re higher than me on the food chain
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7:06 |
Comment From Tim WhatleyWhat’s your prediction on the life of Kershaw’s contract: Bargain, Fair Deal, or Bust?
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7:07 |
Comment From EngineerinSFI have visited 30 MLB stadiums. Dont discount Miller park on best fan experience. Roof keeps the noise in, Lots of sausage, and there’s a free shuttle from the Miller Brewery. That’s a fun Satrday right there.
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7:07 |
Comment From MarkOh wow, I didn’t realize you were the one behind the lineup optimization article last year. I really enjoyed that one.
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7:07 |
Comment From GuestLower on the list of “things you might survive running into with your car” though.
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7:07 |
Comment From SF DaveDid Wendy mean Cougar?
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7:08 |
Comment From WassWe’ve now had comments from queef pulverizer and boner jamz. No commentary, just think it’s funny.
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7:08 |
Comment From GuestAugust, you are underestimating how big a Moose is and how small Jaguars are.
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7:09 |
Comment From grampaD Wright back to 5+ WAR next year?
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7:10 |
Comment From MitchA jaguar would destroy a moose in a fight. Those big cats are literally killing machines.
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7:10 |
Comment From Boner JamzYa, but how much has the moose been working out?
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7:11 |
August Fagerstrom: I think the closest I’ve ever been to a fist fight was with own of my best friends on who would fit a fight between a hippopotamus and a grizzly bear
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7:11 |
August Fagerstrom: This autocorrect is KILLING me
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7:11 |
Comment From carzGrizzly cmon bruh
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7:11 |
Comment From someoneHippo, right?
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7:11 |
August Fagerstrom: I love you guys
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7:12 |
August Fagerstrom: That’s how it all started.
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7:12 |
Wendy Thurm: Machado would’ve had that
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7:12 |
Comment From dgrusselsomeone needs to start walking around and stretching in the O’s ‘pen right?
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7:12 |
Wendy Thurm: Obvious comment is obvious
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7:13 |
August Fagerstrom: Wow. That guy is manning center field for the Tigers right now? might want to think about ezequiel carrera.
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7:14 |
Comment From GuestMoose weight up to a 1400 pounds and can stand 6-7 ft tall with 6ft wide antlers. A jaguar wouldn’t think of taking on something that massive.
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7:15 |
Comment From Seth F.What should managers do in playoff blowouts? Assuming it’s not an elimination game is it ever a good idea to punt a game? What would be the best way to go about this?
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7:15 |
Comment From dgrusselHunter-O’Day-Miller-Britton ENGAGE
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7:16 |
Comment From JacobTHT Wendy
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7:16 |
Comment From MarkRajai Davis has a career UZR/150 of 0.0 in CF and negative everywhere else.
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7:17 |
August Fagerstrom: Tigers’ hitters grit factor is off the charts right now
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7:18 |
August Fagerstrom: Crazy at-bat
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7:18 |
August Fagerstrom: That should be it for Tillman
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7:19 |
Wendy Thurm: Torii’s timing looks off.
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7:19 |
Comment From Not Jeff SullivanSo uh, pitch framing
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7:19 |
Comment From Guesttoo long for Tillman, right?
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7:19 |
August Fagerstrom: If I’m Showalter I’m doing anything in my power to make sure Miggy doesn’t bat this inning
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7:20 |
Comment From Kimball43% of Tillman’s pitches have been to Kinsler, that is just awesome.
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7:21 |
Comment From DylanNow would be the time for one of those groundball specialists.
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7:21 |
Comment From MattWas hoping for a Royals- Pirates WS to make TV networks cry, but what would be the second worse outcome for them?
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7:21 |
August Fagerstrom: How did Kinsler make that such a close play
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7:22 |
Comment From Darth StoutQuestion for Wendy – Will any of the ongoing litigation possibly result in local games available on MLB.TV? Or is that a pipe dream?
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7:22 |
Comment From dgrusselOrioles infielders are so scared to throw the ball hard at the base after their last few weeks of throwing teh ball all of the place
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7:22 |
Comment From Kimball(Correction, accidentally used strikes, not total pitches. Still, 30% (30/99) at the time Kinsler walked.)
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7:22 |
Comment From FishBaltimore fans are the worst. Stop with the Seven Nation Army, you aren’t a Big Ten school.
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7:23 |
Comment From Darth StoutSo no relief for those of us who would rather burn $100 per month than give it to Comcast…
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7:23 |
Comment From KimballGot the email today about MLB.tv streaming the playoffs on mobile devices, with a cable subscriber login — presumably a pilot program?
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7:25 |
August Fagerstrom: I just ordered a pizza. Yay pizza!
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7:26 |
Comment From grampawhere is his fanship talked about? link please?
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7:27 |
Comment From Skating TripodsJust search “Jack White Cubs” on Google Image Search. It’s clear how much he likes baseball.
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7:27 |
Comment From K-ManThere’s also this Tigers promo Video where Jack White refuses to say “get Miggy with it”
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7:27 |
Comment From ZaNever buy pizza. Always make your own. I’m snooty like that.
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7:29 |
Wendy Thurm: Did the Tigers borrow the Pirates defense?
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7:29 |
August Fagerstrom: The MLB’s worst defensive third baseman this season, ladies and genetlemen
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7:30 |
Comment From Seth F.On the win expectancy charts, what’s the difference between the green line and the gray line?
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7:32 |
Comment From Section329Don’t know White but was at that Cubs game. 98 degrees for my first day inChicago.
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7:33 |
Comment From The KidI think the grey line is the one that starts at the original win expectancy instead of 50/50. Because the tigers were at above 50 to start the game, hence why the grey line is lower
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7:34 |
Comment From Tylershouldnt this be o’day?
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7:35 |
Comment From dgrusseldid Wendy abandon us to go track down homeless-looking Brett Farve?
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7:36 |
August Fagerstrom: Miggy just made Steve Pearce look like a baby!!!! What is Pearce, like 5’3″?
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7:36 |
Comment From Seth F.Wendy, who won at the party?
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7:37 |
Comment From K-Manwhen did Vmart last strike out twice in a game?
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7:37 |
Comment From DenjiMaybe Buck considers Miller his best non-closer and wants him to face the middle of the order?
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7:37 |
Wendy Thurm: That was a guess
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7:38 |
Comment From GuestIt is odd that you don’t do chats more on timezone. I thought Wendy and Jeff would do the later game with August and someone else on east coast game.
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7:39 |
Comment From Boner JamzBuck Showalter is a good manager
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7:39 |
Comment From Boner Jamz3-2
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7:39 |
August Fagerstrom: Andrew Miller had a 1.35 ERA and 1.13 FIP with Baltimore this year. Jesus.
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7:40 |
August Fagerstrom: 2.02/1.51 for the season
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7:41 |
Comment From dgrusselpoor Wendy
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7:41 |
August Fagerstrom: 42.6 K%! 7 BB%! 0.43 HR/9!
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7:41 |
Comment From dgrusselhaving to trade with Dave and be with August
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7:44 |
Comment From guyWould you let Miller pitch next inning? Or would you bring in Hunter?
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7:45 |
Comment From dgrusselAugust, you’ve spent half this chat talking about being a moose
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7:45 |
Comment From dgrusselcreepiest car insurance commercial ever, thanks Progressive
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7:45 |
Comment From dgrusselhigh socks fans? love A. Jones look.
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7:46 |
Comment From Boner JamzWho would win in a fight between a Moose and a Hippopotamus?
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7:46 |
Comment From MattI think Miller could be one of those rare reliever trades that really matter. Good relievers are more undervalued than top end starters in the playoffs.
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7:47 |
August Fagerstrom: creepy Guest
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7:47 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperSometimes it seems like you publish questions based on the name moreso than the question
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7:48 |
Comment From dgrusselI was shocked that after carrying 3 LHRP all season, the O’s left Matusz and McFarland off the roster, with Miller being the only lefty, and he doesnt really play like a true lefty out of the pen who is exposed to RHPs
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7:48 |
Comment From Sgt. Pepper“Boner jamz”
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7:49 |
Wendy Thurm: Tigers defense doing work.
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7:49 |
August Fagerstrom: That’s the angriest a pitcher has ever been about an out before
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7:49 |
August Fagerstrom: The juxtaposition of Scherzer’s emotions from the strikeout to the ball coming off that bat were classic
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7:51 |
Wendy Thurm: Poll still open. Get those votes in.
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7:51 |
Comment From DenjiWhy Steve Pierce, why
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7:51 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperThat makes it slightly less painful to remember Pearce was claimed by the Blue Jays and refused to play there
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7:52 |
Comment From Aaron (UK)Pearce had to have got a slow jump out of the box there
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7:52 |
Comment From dgrusselShowalter is shaking his head and looking at his little book of names until play restarts
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7:52 |
Comment From GuestJD got a gun
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7:52 |
Comment From dgrusselBud Norris is super emotional everytime a ball goes in the air. It could be going 500 feet and it just points in the air right above the mound as if its going to hit a 747 and come shooting down for an IFFB
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7:52 |
Comment From Tom TinkleDo you take sherzer out now or try to extend because that bullpen sukc
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7:53 |
Comment From GuestYou need to work on your #brand if you don’t want those to show up on Google when looking for your writing August.
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7:53 |
August Fagerstrom: After the fourth “JD’s got a gun” comment, I get the joke
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7:54 |
August Fagerstrom: Andrew Miller’s making fools look silly right now
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7:56 |
Comment From Boner JamzWho does Scherzer play for next year?
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7:56 |
Comment From Hareeb al-SaqWhy have NBA and NFL always had plenty of black muslims but MLB doesn’t seem to have ever had one?
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7:57 |
August Fagerstrom: Showalter brought Miller in to face 5/6 righties and it appears to be genius
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8:00 |
Comment From Tom Tinklewhat’s his lefty righty split?
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8:00 |
August Fagerstrom: He’s their best reliever against to either side. Makes sense to have him go through the heart of the order
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8:02 |
Comment From simon saysMiller is a free agent next season and agent has to be going crazy
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8:02 |
Comment From grampaBlack baseball players are always the minority once they’re pro’s, so less exposure to others converting or teaching Koran, and not so for NBA/NFL
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8:02 |
Comment From Section329Decreasing # of African Americans in MLB?
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8:02 |
Comment From dgrusselthe amount of non-Muslim Black players in the NBA/NFL is similar to the amount of non-Black players in MLB
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8:02 |
Comment From dgrusselI mean, how many black players are there in MLB compared to NBA/NFL? its a sample size thing
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8:02 |
Comment From MattI think the lack of Black Muslims is more of a race thing. Most black players come from strongly Catholic countries in Latin America, not from the United States.
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8:03 |
Wendy Thurm: Poll closing before the first pitch of the B7
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8:03 |
Comment From Tom Tinkleother than britton you mean
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8:04 |
Comment From Tom Tinklewhy doesn’t miller close?
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8:07 |
August Fagerstrom: Hitters have not missed the mistake pitches in this game
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8:07 |
Wendy Thurm: JJ Hardy didn’t like all the attention Brandon Crawford got for his GS as a SS
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8:08 |
Comment From guyTBS’ coverage of this game tonight has actually been surprisingly good. Any thoughts on that?
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8:08 |
Comment From dgrusseldid you play baseball August?
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8:09 |
Comment From dgrusselposition?
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8:09 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperDo they call mixed amateur softball “beer leagues” in the US like they do in Canada
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8:10 |
Comment From K-Mancan you play hardball in the US without being in HS, College, Minors, Indie Ball, or the MLB?
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8:11 |
Comment From JacobAugust, are you a Tiger fan? I remember reading somewhere about someone missing Galarragas almost perfect game, that was you?
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8:11 |
Comment From DWrekSoftball bat > car payment. True or false?
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8:13 |
Comment From Larry BernandezIs Ausmus right to keep Scherzer in? It doesn’t seem like they have a reliable replacement for him in Det
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8:13 |
Comment From dgrusseldo you two read other FG writers chats from the regular week chats?
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8:14 |
Comment From BobOn a scale of zero to “I can’t believe this guy gets paid to make these decisions,” does Joba get the 8th over Sanchez or Soria?
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8:15 |
Comment From grampaShowalter vs Ausmus just might decide this series…
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8:17 |
Comment From dgrusselfun fact. Buck and Brad only have 12 years difference in age. seems like Buck could be Ausmus’s dad
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8:17 |
Comment From sempertyAs a Royals fan, should I be cheering for Baltimore here? Or are they a tougher match-up?
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8:18 |
Comment From Who?Honestly I think the Orioles can win this series just because they have such a formidable bullpen that they can actually hold onto leads they get.
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8:19 |
Comment From Larry BernandezBest night in regular season history: 2011 when TB beat NYY minutes after BOS blew a lead to BAL, completely turning the playoff picture Topsy Turvy. Agree or Disagree?
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8:22 |
Comment From Boner JamzWhich series has the best chance of going 5?
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8:23 |
Comment From HankIs it just me or does the crowd seem quiet for a 4-2 lead in the 8th?
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8:23 |
Wendy Thurm: All the home runs. ALL OF THEM
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8:23 |
August Fagerstrom: No way. I was in the process of typing “Miggy’s gonna go deep here” when he did that.
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8:24 |
August Fagerstrom: That Miggy guy
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8:24 |
August Fagerstrom: He’ll getcha
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8:24 |
August Fagerstrom: I was so close to having my own Anthony DiComo moment.
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8:25 |
August Fagerstrom: Did we just witness the Orioles outperforming their BaseRuns with lucky sequencing?
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8:26 |
Comment From RHis was way more of a stretch than “miggy’s going deep”
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8:26 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyFun how Britton went from a failed prospect to an elite closer. Pitchers, amiright?
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8:27 |
Comment From GeorgeAs an Orioles fan, this is what 90 percent of their games are like
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8:27 |
Comment From sempertyAnyone care to explain the Anthony DiComo moment”?
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8:28 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyMiller wasn’t as heralded as Britton though, was he?
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8:29 |
Comment From Larry BernandezWere most elite closers once upon a time starting prospects? Or is this an exaggeration?
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8:29 |
August Fagerstrom: Miller was the sixth overall pick in the 2006 draft. Britton was a third-rounder
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8:29 |
Comment From Boner JamzAndrew Miller was considered one of the better pitching prospects in baseball. Zach Britton was projected more as a middle of the rotation picther
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8:30 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyMore n00b comments: Steve Pearce had a 5 win season. What!?
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8:30 |
Comment From MarkMiller and Maybin were the main chips in the Cabrera/D-Train trade.
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8:31 |
August Fagerstrom: Guys this pizza is so good
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8:33 |
Comment From Syedwhy is Scherzer still pitching?
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8:34 |
Comment From Cleve LandsteamerHas anybody else seen more than enough Rob Lowe for 5 lifetimes?
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8:34 |
Comment From Tylerwhat kind?
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8:35 |
Comment From NickYou’re the Red Sox. Taking everything into account (money years player production) who would you rather sign. Sandoval or Headley? I’m all for Headley
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8:35 |
Wendy Thurm: Should clarify – if you’re giving a deal longer than 3 years, I’d give it to Sandoval, but only in the AL
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8:36 |
Comment From AlexIf there’s so much concern about Verlander why is he pitching in game 2? Why did Torii Hunter bunt? Why is Joba warming up? Why did they just call a hit and run with Miggy on deck? *head explodes*
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8:36 |
August Fagerstrom: Yeah, depends on the length of the contract but I like Headley
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8:37 |
Comment From Larry BernandezTeam A has a WRC+ of 125 but relies largely on power numbers.
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8:38 |
Comment From guyGreek pizza is objectively the best pizza
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8:40 |
Comment From Boner JamzDoes greek pizza not have tomato sauce or something?
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8:40 |
Wendy Thurm: There’s the Tigers defense we were expecting
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8:41 |
August Fagerstrom: Who could have seen the Tigers defense doing that
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8:41 |
Comment From NickYeah I just wouldn’t want to commit 4-5 years or whatever it’d take for Panda when you can probably give Headley 2 years. And Headley is probably the better overall player too
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8:42 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyPizza without tomato sauce isn’t pizza. It’s an abomination
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8:42 |
Comment From Boner JamzShould the Orioles use Gausman in their playoff rotation, or out of the pen?
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8:42 |
Comment From Boner JamzSandoval is actually a pretty solid defender. Not Headley good, but he’s not awful or anything
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8:43 |
August Fagerstrom: Jeez, Nelson Cruz
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8:43 |
Wendy Thurm: Now you know why Ausmus left Scherzer in
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8:44 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperWhen is the crowd going to start singing Hotel Yorba?
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8:45 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperDuring this game I learned that the Orioles are a threat and that scotch and chocolate chip cookies is not as bad a combination as it sounds
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8:46 |
Comment From AlexSoria > Sanchez > Joba > Nathan
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8:47 |
August Fagerstrom: Look at those Nelson Cruz intangibles
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8:47 |
Wendy Thurm: And the wheels on the bus are falling off, falling off, falling off
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8:47 |
August Fagerstrom: Are there intangibles in a sport where everything is quantified?
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8:47 |
Comment From Boner JamzThat play perfectly sums up the Cruz signing. Not a good idea whatsoever, but it works out in the end
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8:48 |
Comment From GuestI can’t wait to watch the gif of Cruz running ina circle over and over again.
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8:48 |
Comment From dgrusselhahaha, best thing Wendy has said all night
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8:48 |
Comment From R8 million dollar flyer for one year is not even close to a bad idea
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8:49 |
Wendy Thurm: Name the last time an IBB to load the bases worked out well for the team on the field.
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8:51 |
August Fagerstrom: Real laser from Romine there at short
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8:52 |
Comment From dgrusselBritton isnt coming back in right?
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8:52 |
August Fagerstrom: You could witness Torii Hunter’s self-esteem deflate as he chased the ball down in right field
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8:53 |
Comment From ell oh ellMiguel Cabrera selfishly directing the spotlight on himself by refusing playoff money = obvious distraction. Tigers weren’t ready to play.
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8:55 |
Comment From ell oh ell
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8:57 |
August Fagerstrom: Is it worth it to burn another pitcher to keep Britton’s pitch count down? Probably, but it’s something to think about
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8:59 |
Comment From dgrusselyes. miller isn’t pitching tomorrow, so you want your next best reliever around if possible right?
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8:59 |
Comment From Aaron (UK)They should let a bench bat close out this game. No one ever would, though…
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8:59 |
Dave Cameron: I have a hot take
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8:59 |
Dave Cameron: The Tigers defense and bullpen both suck.
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8:59 |
August Fagerstrom: also, scorching.
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8:59 |
Comment From dgrusselDave, August is trying to convince us he’s a moose. Like all chat long.
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9:00 |
Comment From chuckbThat analysis is why you get paid the big bucks, Dave.
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9:00 |
Wendy Thurm: Dave and David are here. I’m leaving. It’s been a pleasure. Thanks for keeping the misogyny to a minimum.
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9:00 |
Dave Cameron: Thanks for hosting, Wendy!
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9:00 |
Comment From GuestThank you Wendy.
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9:00 |
Comment From Astro and the VansThanks Wendy, you rule!
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9:00 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyWe love Wendy!
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9:02 |
Comment From dgrusselmost impressive part of Orioles/Tigers game?
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9:02 |
Dave Cameron: Buck Showalter’s bullpen management.
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9:03 |
Comment From Astro and the VansTemple, you old so-and-so, how the heck are you?
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9:03 |
Comment From Chris – a Phils fan ordinarilyHow do you like the Tigers’ chances of winning the series after this game is over?
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9:04 |
August Fagerstrom: That’s not what I meant. Maybe it’s time for me to log off too!
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9:04 |
Dave Cameron: Night August.
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9:05 |
Comment From mcgolfinMaybe the Tigers realized they can’t lose the series if the bottom of the 8th never ends
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9:05 |
Comment From RoboAugust has no place in October. (just kidding August you’re cool)
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9:05 |
Comment From Boner JamzI want to name my kid August Fagerstrom
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9:06 |
Comment From JakeThanks August. Now I want pizza and a moose
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9:06 |
August Fagerstrom: Later y’all. Thanks for chatting! It’s been fun
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9:06 |
August Fagerstrom: hey look a reliever
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9:06 |
David Temple: This is already the best episode of Castle I’ve ever seen.
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9:07 |
Comment From HieronymousDe Aza seems like a really good pick up for the Os. Basically got him for nothing.
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9:07 |
Comment From AJTI got here too late to ask why August’s name is a month.
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9:07 |
Dave Cameron: Yep, super underrated move.
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9:08 |
Comment From Boner JamzEw. Escobar is leading off again
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9:08 |
Dave Cameron: This is the Royals stock line-up.
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9:08 |
Comment From AJTThanks August, that is pretty cool
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9:09 |
Dave Cameron: 68 on the curve. Fun.
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9:10 |
Dave Cameron: Escobar looked useless there.
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9:10 |
Dave Cameron: helpless. I think I meant helpless, but useless is accurate too.
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9:11 |
David Temple: My dad is so mad the Brewers traded Aoki.
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9:11 |
Comment From chuckbHow about feckless? Fun word.
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9:11 |
Dave Cameron: Will Smith is pretty good, and Khris Davis was a fine replacement.
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9:12 |
Comment From NickFour years in a row now Jered weaver has seriously out-performed his FIP and xFIP; do you think that continues?
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9:12 |
Dave Cameron: Yep. He’s an infield fly machine, and extreme fly ball pitchers who get a lot of IFFBs usually post low BABIPs.
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9:12 |
Comment From Guestdo the angels have one of the worst starting rotations in a long while of top seeds entering the playoffs in recent years?
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9:13 |
Dave Cameron: I’m not sure the Orioles rotation this year is any better.
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9:13 |
Dave Cameron: Nori Aoki, sneakily terrible baserunner.
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9:14 |
Comment From GuestThat might be the first time I’ve ever seen the out at first on a pickoff delivered via backhand slap to the face
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9:14 |
David Temple: Gives it a little extra, doesn’t it?
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9:15 |
Comment From chuckbYikes! -10 bsr. That’s tough to do.
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9:15 |
Comment From someoneI don’t think you would reach base enough to do that
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9:16 |
Comment From JakeCan anyone write a post explaining why Aoki has been so bad running? Please
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9:16 |
Comment From Guestwhat is the justification for starting verlander in game 2? or at all for that matter in this series
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9:17 |
Dave Cameron: Over Price? I don’t know. In this series: Sanchez is hurt.
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9:17 |
Dave Cameron: Well, too hurt to start.
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9:17 |
Dave Cameron: That’s out in ~25 other ballparks.
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9:17 |
Comment From GuestFly ball to the Royals outfield? Can of corn.
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9:17 |
David Temple: It’s happening, nerds. Soak it in.
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9:17 |
Comment From grampaWOW, AL version of Lagares out there
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9:18 |
Comment From Tylervargas with a nice GIF face reaction
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9:19 |
Comment From HieronymousSpeaking of Sullivan and baserunning: that article he wrote about Dyson’s stolen base was amazing. One of the best baseball articles I’ve ever read.
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9:20 |
Dave Cameron: Lots of balls in the air. Jason Vargas doing Jason Vargas things.
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9:22 |
Comment From KimballIf a team declines a contract option, can it still make a QO to try to get a comp pick? Seems like it might cause a grievance, but is it against the rules?
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9:22 |
Dave Cameron: No, two separate decisions.
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9:23 |
Comment From KimballSo, KC could decline Butler’s 12.5 mil option, then offer him a 14/15 mil QO?
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9:24 |
Dave Cameron: Yes, but he’d instantly accept.
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9:24 |
David Temple: “You don’t want Eric Hosmer to beat you”
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9:24 |
Dave Cameron: Lots of breaking stuff from Weaver so far.
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9:25 |
Dave Cameron: Well, it’s true. I don’t want to get beaten up by anyone, especially a pro athlete.
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9:25 |
David Temple: I see your point. Hosmer would do a number on me, for sure.
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9:25 |
Comment From AJTWow Butler is slow
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9:26 |
David Temple: Aybar could have slammed a Mountain Dew before throwing.
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9:26 |
Dave Cameron: Just absurd how slow he got down the line.
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9:26 |
Dave Cameron: Billy Butler could hit .320 and still be a mediocre player.
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9:26 |
Dave Cameron: When he hits less than .320, he’s just garbage.
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9:28 |
David Temple: Grabbed my stopwatch. 4.69 secs contact to 1b mitt.
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9:28 |
Comment From LyleIf Butler was more of a fly ball hitter would that help his value out?
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9:28 |
Comment From Section329Oh, dear, that means a Mariner
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9:28 |
Comment From AJTButler has more GIDPs than Bonds did over his career.
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9:28 |
Comment From Guestbut the grit. he’s got grit. and grits
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9:29 |
Comment From TonyHow many years do the Mariners give Butler?
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9:29 |
David Temple: That’s what I wanted.
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9:30 |
Dave Cameron: I’ll guess 3/33.
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9:31 |
Comment From dgrusselnooo Mariners have to sign Cruz so Orioles get a draft pick
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9:31 |
Dave Cameron: Cruz has no interest in playing half his games in Safeco.
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9:32 |
David Temple: Whoa. Abrupt Castle just happened.
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9:32 |
Comment From RichardHamilton “just trying to make contact”… I can’t wait to see that!
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9:33 |
David Temple: Abrupt Castle was also the name of my jazz combo in college.
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9:33 |
Comment From GuestDave (both): do you actually think the M’s are so desperate that they offer Butler that kind of a deal?
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9:33 |
Dave Cameron: They’ve been trying to get him for years.
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9:33 |
David Temple: I think they look at other options, certainly. But it still may happen.
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9:35 |
David Temple: The correct answer was the Nationals, by the way. Matt Williams was drafted 3rd overall in 1986. Thanks for playing.
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9:35 |
David Temple: Bruce Bochy was also a first rounder!
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9:36 |
Comment From Guestis that a sad attempt at a playoff mustache by vargas
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9:36 |
Dave Cameron: He also might just be like me, and that’s five days worth of not shaving.
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9:36 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreCain is amazing to watch in CF, wow.
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9:36 |
Comment From chuckbNed Yost was a first rounder, too.
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9:36 |
Comment From sempertyWelcome to the joy that is Lorenzo Cain, America. You’re welcome.
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9:36 |
Comment From Guestvargas gif time
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9:37 |
Comment From JamieIf you can’t grow facial hair, you shouldn’t try
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9:37 |
Dave Cameron: I tried once
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9:37 |
Dave Cameron: Grew a super shaggy homeless “beard”
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9:37 |
David Temple: The mere image of that made me giggle.
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9:37 |
Dave Cameron: Flew out to Seattle, didn’t tell my parents I’d arrived, walked into my parents shop, and she said “I’ll be right with you sir.”
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9:37 |
Dave Cameron: (she being my mom)
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9:38 |
Comment From Sgt. PepperAre there pictures of the Dave Cameron beard
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9:38 |
Dave Cameron: Maybe? I don’t know. That was the first weekend I ever met Jonah Keri, too, so that was his first impression of me. Ask him about it sometime.
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9:39 |
David Temple: Honest question: I agree that some of the announcing so far has been subpar. But I also am reluctant to criticize because I know I would be terrible at it. Like, it’s a hard job. I know no one pays me to do it, but am I crazy for feeling sympathetic?
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9:40 |
David Temple: Like, it would be really hard. So much dead air to cover.
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9:40 |
Dave Cameron: And it’s not like you have time to give context
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9:40 |
Dave Cameron: It’s just snippet after snippet.
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9:40 |
Comment From KDLIt’s hard. But don’t you think it’s like anything else…After a while you should be pretty good, or someone else should get a shot.
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9:40 |
David Temple: This seems very reasonable.
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9:41 |
Dave Cameron: Jared Weaver, Curveball Machine.
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9:41 |
David Temple: I’m not going to post them all, but many of you are making valid arguments re: announcing.
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9:42 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyWithout looking, guess the over/under fcareer SB for Billy Butler
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9:43 |
Comment From AJTButler has 5
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9:43 |
David Temple: I WAS WAY OFF
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9:43 |
David Temple: Slightly embarrassed.
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9:43 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyBilly Butler has been worth 56 offensive runs, and negative 123 defensive runs
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9:44 |
Dave Cameron: I think the scouting report on the Royals line-up is “sucks at bendy pitches”
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9:44 |
Comment From Kimball“sucks *particularly* at bendy pitches”
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9:44 |
Comment From JoeThe fake rocks, just so Orange County and awful.
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9:45 |
David Temple: I actually applied for a job in LA once, and legit thought “ugh. I’d have to go to games in Anaheim.”
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9:45 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreSo Dave, are you going to be up at 9am to watch baseball? It has to be odd watching baseball so early.
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9:45 |
Dave Cameron: I live on the east coast. And I’m taking tomorrow off.
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9:45 |
Comment From Dave Camerons PuppyQuestion: how has Butler been worth -44 BsR, +56 Off, and -123 Def but is a career +10 WAR? Shouldn’t it be negative?
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9:46 |
Dave Cameron: First three are relative to average, not replacement.
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9:46 |
Comment From JoeYea, but getting out of the parking lot and onto the freeway in like 5 minutes is amazing.
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9:46 |
Dave Cameron: I’ve been ~5 times, and have never enjoyed it.
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9:47 |
Dave Cameron: “Don’t fake it, show it.” Cal Ripken on pickoffs, and sexual predators.
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9:49 |
Comment From chuckbOn stolen bases thinking about Jeff’s column on Dyson), how can we divide credit/blame on stolen bases between pitchers & catchers? How would we decide on the proper weighting?
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9:49 |
Dave Cameron: Max Weinstein did a bunch of posts on this over the last year. Google Max Weinstein battery effect or something and it should come up.
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9:50 |
Dave Cameron: And the first run will score on a curve. Of course.
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9:50 |
David Temple: Weaver has other pitches, yes?
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9:51 |
Dave Cameron: Yeah, his change is pretty good.
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9:51 |
Comment From sempertyHow much more dangerous will the KC pen be when they add Hochevar back next year?
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9:52 |
Dave Cameron: Isn’t he a free agent?
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9:52 |
Dave Cameron: And even if he isn’t/weren’t, reliever performance is not static. Very good chance their pen takes a step back next year, just because relievers.
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9:53 |
David Temple: Yep. This is why I will never be Dave Cameron (among many other reasons).
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9:53 |
Dave Cameron: Also, you blink.
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9:53 |
David Temple: Maybe not on TV. Haven’t checked yet.
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9:54 |
Comment From JamieDoes KC becomes the favorite in the series if they win this game?
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9:54 |
Dave Cameron: Every team that wins game 1 becomes the favorite.
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9:55 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreWould you try Britton out as a starter next year? Throwing the FB 91% of the time worries me, makes me think he has given up on his secondary pitches. Or is that something he still works on?
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9:55 |
Dave Cameron: He’s a reliever until he retires.
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9:55 |
Comment From DannyRobertDo any of you think its possible for a team to succeed without a manager and the players look out for themselves?
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9:55 |
David Temple: I don’t know but I like the way you think.
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9:56 |
David Temple: I mean, someone has to make the lineup and stuff. Is there a council that votes or something?
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9:56 |
Comment From Lt. Col. HabeneroWho would make bullpen decisions?
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9:57 |
David Temple: I guess we could go back to player/manager types or something.
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9:57 |
Comment From TonyYou’ve heard of ‘bullpen by committee’, right? Well we made it literal.
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9:57 |
Dave Cameron: Can you imagine the Dodgers figuring out their OF situation by themselve this year?
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9:57 |
Dave Cameron: I’m sure Ethier would have just been like “yeah, I’ll sit, no problem.”
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9:57 |
David Temple: It is now tied.
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9:58 |
Comment From Glenthat was a long time coming
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9:58 |
David Temple: I’m talking about LA/KC, in case some of you are still watching DET/BAL. I assume that’s still going on.
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9:58 |
Dave Cameron: If that game was tied, we’d be live blogging the crap out of it.
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9:59 |
David Temple: Oh, I just assumed the 8th was still happening.
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9:59 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreNoticed this in the Oriole game, why aren’t we getting the straight on view from CF all game? Seems they go to it during replay though.
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10:00 |
Comment From Doctor HoistWHERE THE HELL IS THE CASTLE LIVE BLOG?!?
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10:00 |
Dave Cameron: It’s still standing, and made of stone.
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10:01 |
Comment From JamieShould I keep watching this, or switch to the Duck game in half an hour?
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10:02 |
Dave Cameron: What hideous jersey choices have the Oregon Ducks made this year to distract you from the fact that the university is funded by the sweat of four year olds?
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10:02 |
Comment From Lt. Col. HabeneroThey are wearing actual duck feathers
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10:03 |
David Temple: Thanks for the Packers score updates in the comments. My dad should be in a good mood tomorrow. Maybe I’ll ask for money.
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10:04 |
Comment From Jonpackers up 98 – 0 !!
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10:04 |
Comment From RichardHaha, you think this poll is the absolute definition of respondent sample bias? Maybe?
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10:04 |
Comment From AndyDC, does taking the day off tomorrow just mean no writing for Fangraphs? Or is there another job you can play hooky from?
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10:04 |
Dave Cameron: I’ll write something tonight to run tomorrow.
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10:04 |
Dave Cameron: Probably on Buck Showalter’s awesome bullpen usage.
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10:05 |
Comment From Kimballvia @BenLindbergh: Reminder: The Angels have no below-average hitters, including their no. 9 guy.
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10:05 |
David Temple: I haven’t fact-checked that, but Ben seems smart.
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10:05 |
Dave Cameron: They would have interviewed Jeff, but he’s currently rolling a blunt.
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10:05 |
David Temple: DC, King of Zings.
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10:05 |
Comment From ell oh ellBut he’s asking of FG pays you enough to live off (on?).
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10:06 |
Dave Cameron: FG is my full time job. Same with Sullivan/Carson/Eno/Swydan/McDaniel, and of course Appelman. We’re a real business!
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10:06 |
David Temple: My wife just texted me. She’s going to Target. Do I need anything?
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10:07 |
Dave Cameron: Cargo shorts and a polo?
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10:07 |
David Temple: That’s insulting, Dave.
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10:08 |
Dave Cameron: Have you been in a Target? They actually make you change into that if you’re not wearing your own when you get there.
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10:08 |
David Temple: I live in Minneapolis. There are Targets every 500 feet. I do know if you go there in a red shirt, at least one person will ask you where something is.
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10:09 |
Comment From C-MescHow low is Cal Ripken on the list of ballplayers you’d like to watch a game with? Bottom eight?
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10:09 |
David Temple: Higher than his brother.
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10:09 |
Comment From RukiA baseball booth of Delmon Young, Yuniesky Betancourt and Michael Young. Best booth or worst booth?
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10:10 |
David Temple: Don’t know, but I’d be willing to find out.
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10:10 |
Comment From Glen1. Brandon McCarthy 2. Brandon Moss 3. Adam Dunn 4. Joey Votto 5. Hunter Pence
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10:10 |
David Temple: I hope Pence becomes an analyst SO MUCH
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10:10 |
Dave Cameron: You wouldn’t want to watch a game with Yasiel Puig? Heathen.
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10:12 |
Comment From JamieCouldn’t it be more fun in many ways to watch a game with someone who appreciates the game differently than you?
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10:13 |
David Temple: After watching 100+ games with my father, I can attest it gets old.
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10:13 |
David Temple: I mean, I love him. But the dude LOVES bunting.
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10:13 |
Comment From RobNBest games you’ve ever attended or watched?
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10:14 |
Dave Cameron: I went to a few of the Mariners games during their 1995 comeback, including the one where they got down 6-0 early, only to have Vince Coleman hit a grand slam to lead the comeback. That was pretty fun.
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10:14 |
Comment From sempertyCards/Cubs, late August-2006. Gary Bennet was playing for Yadi because of an injury, and walked off with a grand slam. It was incredible.
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10:14 |
David Temple: I’m not a real big Twins fan, but game 163 vs Tigers was a blast.
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10:15 |
Comment From MitchI was at Game 1 in 86, but best game I ever saw was Phils vs. somebody in 1993 (Year of Magic). Rain delays, extra innings, game went so late they eventually opened the gates to anyone who wanted to come see the end. Mitch Williams ended up driving in the winning run
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10:16 |
David Temple: I also went to a Jays/Astros game this year that was incredible. Jon Singleton homered. Altuve scored from first on an errant pickoff. Chris Carter stole a base. Robbie Grossman robbed a homer. It was pure joy.
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10:16 |
Comment From BallblasterAs a Braves fan, Chipper’s last home game was pretty great.
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10:16 |
Comment From Glenyanks sox game 7 03 alcs
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10:16 |
Comment From RobertWhite Sox – Angels, September 2007. Sox trail 7 to 1 after 6 1/2 innings only to come back and win on Jim Thome’s 500th home run in the 9th.
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10:17 |
Comment From Transient GadflyIt will never show up in the box score, it will never show up in the stats, it will never show up period. But the O’s/Tigers game was won in the 6th when Showalter brought Miller in to face the heart of the order. In the 6th. Inning.
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10:17 |
Dave Cameron: That is actually exactly what box scores were designed to show.
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10:17 |
Comment From GuestI wonder if “usually you pitch as good if not better at home” is something Colorado pitchers have ever said
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10:18 |
David Temple: There’s like a whole section for it.
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10:18 |
Comment From sempertyIf Vargas goes 5 and gives up 2, should the Royals fans be pretty happy with his performance?
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10:19 |
David Temple: If I want a lady to talk to me in a clinical way about my gentleman parts, it would not hurt if she had a British accent.
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10:20 |
Comment From RobertUh.. what are you talking about david?
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10:21 |
David Temple: Just life, in general.
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10:21 |
Dave Cameron: I love the lack of context for people reading the transcript later, or not watching the commercials now.
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10:21 |
Comment From RyanWhat are your expectations for Verlander tomorrow and the rest of the playoffs?
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10:21 |
Dave Cameron: Weaver throws a belt way, down the middle curve.
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10:21 |
Dave Cameron: Really got away with that one.
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10:21 |
Dave Cameron: belt way = belt high.
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10:21 |
Comment From RobertWhy didn’t Trout go after that ball?
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10:21 |
Dave Cameron: That was… odd.
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10:22 |
Comment From KifahBUNT HIM TO THIRD, BUNT HIM TO THIRD
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10:22 |
Dave Cameron: Lost it, I guess.
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10:22 |
Comment From ComptonIs Cistulli allowed to host chats? Or would his writing style break CIL? Seriously though, you should wrangle him into hosting one of these.
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10:22 |
Dave Cameron: Tomorrow, 1-5 pm.
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10:22 |
David Temple: If he wakes up in time.
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10:22 |
Comment From sempertyToo early for Yost to be justified in bunting?
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10:23 |
Comment From JamieAny idea what the Royals bullpen strategy will be tonight?
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10:23 |
Dave Cameron: Probably Frasor for 6, big three for 7-9.
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10:24 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreNo problem sending O’Day and Miller out there tomorrow right?
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10:24 |
David Temple: Ride ’em till they buck ya.
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10:24 |
Dave Cameron: Right. it’s the playoffs. You fire your bullets until you are out of them.
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10:25 |
Comment From KifahO’s haven’t played since sunday, no reason not to run your horses out there 2 days in a row.
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10:25 |
Dave Cameron: Another meatball.
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10:26 |
David Temple: Gordon would’ve had third anyway, but Hamilton falling for no reason was pretty funny.
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10:26 |
Dave Cameron: Weaver has gotten very lucky to not give up multiple dingers this inning.
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10:27 |
Comment From Dan GattiIs there any evidence for the “nighttime balls don’t carry” theory?
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10:27 |
Dave Cameron: Yep. Direct correlation between heat/humidity and batted ball distance.
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10:27 |
Comment From A. LaneOn the multiple home runs, it is the Royals.
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10:27 |
Comment From RichardYeah, science.
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10:28 |
David Temple: More like “Yeah! Science!”
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10:28 |
Comment From KimballDave, you’ve submitted your BBWAA ballots now, right? In the end, did you feel satisfied with your manager evaluation?
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10:29 |
Dave Cameron: I did the best I could. I looked at challenges, bullpen usage, willingness to use players out of conventional roles, and tried to gauge the respect of the clubhouse/crisis management stuff I could. And gave extra points to guys who actually had to overcome some adversity versus just rolling out the same time all year.
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10:29 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreSo you are telling us you voted for Buck, gotcha.
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10:30 |
Dave Cameron: I had an NL ballot.
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10:30 |
David Temple: Sorry, didn’t know closing the polls would post them like that.
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10:31 |
Comment From RyanLooking at bREF, the league had a slightly lower SLG in day games compared to night games; does something offset the flyball distance increase in day games?
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10:31 |
David Temple: I’m guessing the day game lineups.
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10:31 |
Dave Cameron: Day game after night is a very common off day for a lot of regulars.
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10:32 |
Comment From TonyDave. If the Cubs could do a trade for Cole Hamels with Baez being the centerpiece and then signing Lester, how good could they be next season?
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10:32 |
Dave Cameron: A legitimate contender.
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10:32 |
Comment From KimballDavid, it turns out you shouldn’t Google yourself. You specifically, I mean.
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10:33 |
David Temple: Note: I didn’t murder my wife. Some other dude named David Temple did. Just want to make that clear.
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10:33 |
David Temple: Also, he murdered his own wife. Not my wife.
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10:34 |
Comment From AJTIs there a player who doesn’t love playing in October?
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10:34 |
Dave Cameron: Rick Ankiel.
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10:34 |
Comment From KifahAll David Freese does is hit homers in October, and get hurt, and not hit for power in the regular season.
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10:34 |
Dave Cameron: Erick Aybar might have been faster if he wasn’t carrying 10 pounds of dip in his mouth.
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10:35 |
Comment From AndyDo players get pro-rated salary for the month of October? Wouldn’t that hurt club budgets? And if not, doesn’t that kind of suck for the players?
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10:35 |
David Temple: I posted this because I have no idea how that works and I assume Dave does.
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10:36 |
Dave Cameron: There’s a revenue split collectively bargained for the postseason, and the players vote on how their share should be divided. The pool grows the deeper into the postseason a team goes.
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10:36 |
Dave Cameron: Miguel Cabrera declined his share for this year, in fact.
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10:37 |
Comment From Xif the Cubs did a Baez + X for Hamels and signed Lester, would the A’s take McKinney and a secondary prospect for Samardzija?
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10:37 |
Dave Cameron: No. And I don’t think the Cubs trade Baez for Hamels.
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10:37 |
Comment From Lt. Col. HabeneroESPN reported that that was a joke. Cabrera took his share
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10:37 |
Comment From CatoblepasWhat is there to vote on? How it’s apportioned among the different players, or what? Like, would Pujols get twice as much as Trout normally?
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10:38 |
David Temple: Make that paper.
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10:38 |
Dave Cameron: Not everyone gets a full share. If you started the year with another team and were traded over at the end of the year, you might get a partial share.
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10:39 |
Comment From RukiPackers up 42-0 now. Deer lord.
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10:39 |
David Temple: ALL HAIL DEER LORD
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10:40 |
Comment From ComptonI really liked the the beer commercial about the dog and drunk driving the first few times. Now I’m just sad.
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10:40 |
Comment From Aussie MarinerAre we headed for extras? Does Dave C have a piece to write after tonight’s game?
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10:40 |
Dave Cameron: If this game goes too late, you just won’t get a piece from me tomorrow after all.
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10:41 |
Comment From AndyTied going into 6 is pretty good for the Royals, no? That bullpen…
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10:41 |
Dave Cameron: Yep, this is a good outcome for KCR.
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10:42 |
Comment From OblargIf you’re the Orioles, would you rather face the Royals or the Angels?
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10:42 |
David Temple: I still think Royals. Probably.
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10:42 |
Dave Cameron: Royals, easy.
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10:43 |
Comment From Aussie MarinerDo you think Yost goes to the pen now, or sticks with Vargas since it’s still tied and he’s only at 60 pitches?
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10:43 |
Dave Cameron: No way he pulls Vargas.
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10:44 |
Comment From AJTTough to fan
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10:45 |
Comment From dgrusselwere you as amazed as I was about the MadBum CG yesterday?
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10:45 |
David Temple: Dude was on point.
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10:45 |
Comment From DWrekIs that Scott Boras is the cage behind home plate? He is there every game and looks just like him.
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10:45 |
David Temple: I notice that too! I always thought it was him. Confirmation anyone?
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10:46 |
Dave Cameron: He lives out there.
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10:46 |
Dave Cameron: Weaver’s agent.
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10:46 |
Dave Cameron: Would make sense.
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10:46 |
David Temple: In the stadium?
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10:46 |
David Temple: Sweet crib.
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10:46 |
Dave Cameron: Yes, he owns Angels Stadium.
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10:46 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreWeaver is the answer when people complain about Boras’ players always going to FA.
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10:47 |
Dave Cameron: Andrus too.
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10:47 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreDidn’t Weaver also take an undervalued deal as well?
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10:47 |
Dave Cameron: Yeah, Weaver’s deal was light.
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10:47 |
Comment From KimballAny chance that Boras made some sort of deal with Morales/Drew to reduce their risk by holding out?
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10:47 |
Dave Cameron: There are rules about agents not being allowed to pay players, I believe.
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10:49 |
Comment From ComptonWhat’s the role of the agent in the years when he’s not negotiating with the team? Like if a player signs a 10-year deal, does the agent just kinda kick it for 9 years?
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10:49 |
Dave Cameron: They do more than just negotiate contracts. They’re basically all lawyers, and a lot of them handle marketing/promotional type stuff too.
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10:50 |
Comment From MilesI would imagine they take a lot of phone calls that players don’t have the time to take.
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10:50 |
Comment From KimballCan remember who, now, but there’s a couple guys who just started their own shop to offer cut-rate services — contract negotiations only, something like that, no endorsements, etc. Think that will catch on?
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10:50 |
Dave Cameron: That’s Proformance. Wendy wrote about it. I asked around and there’s a lot of skepticism that players care enough about the extra 2-3% to actually make that business model work. Players are rich. They buy back time.
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10:51 |
Comment From dgrusselDon’t players who are established want that guy one phone call away who can make things appear/disappear at a whim? thats why you are rich and thats why you pay someone like an agent
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10:52 |
Dave Cameron: Also, letting Vargas face Trout here is not great.
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10:52 |
Comment From GuestCan agents bail their players out of jail? and do the players have to pay that back?
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10:52 |
David Temple: They do in TV/movies.
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10:52 |
Dave Cameron: I know we bang the use-your-bullpen drum a lot, but Trout/Pujols against a lefty in a tie game in the playoffs is not wise.
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10:53 |
David Temple: That was the same pitch.
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10:53 |
Dave Cameron: He’s just throwing it to that spot hoping for random strikes.
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10:54 |
Comment From sempertyPop up! Thank you Mike Trout!
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10:55 |
David Temple: This is why winning the division is good. If you’re best player(s) has a bad night, you can still make it work.
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10:55 |
Comment From dgrusselmost people who are not considered flight risks (such as obvious public figures like professional athletes)are released on bond and not bail anyways (as long as they didn’t murder someone or something like that). And though the paper says ‘released on $5000 bond’, that doesnt mean the person released fronted that money, they just agreed to appear in court under the threat of owing that money in addition to other punishments if they didnt appear
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10:55 |
David Temple: Knowledge bomb = dropped.
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10:55 |
Comment From ComptonWhere does Sal Perez rank in terms of snazziest looking catcher gear?
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10:56 |
David Temple: Saw him in a bar in Minneapolis (he was at the same hotel as the SABR conference). Also dresses well in the wild.
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10:56 |
Dave Cameron: Bars in Minneapolis are “the wild” now?
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10:56 |
David Temple: Come up some time. Aaron Gleeman will show you a good time.
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10:57 |
Dave Cameron: I’ve been, twice, both in the summer. It was glorious.
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10:57 |
Comment From Art VandelayAt Stella’s fish bar
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10:58 |
Dave Cameron: Yost going to the mound after Vargas faces the tough righties?
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10:58 |
Dave Cameron: This was all very strange.
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10:58 |
Dave Cameron: And now sticking with him against another righty. Okay.
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10:59 |
Comment From Rube WaddellAt some point, you have to figure Ned Yost is just doing this to spite you, Dave.
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10:59 |
Comment From Guestwhat the efffffff
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10:59 |
Comment From KifahROYALS BASEBALL EVERYONE
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10:59 |
David Temple: Really thought that hit the wall at first glance.
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11:00 |
Comment From Marclooked like clean catch on replay
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11:01 |
Comment From KifahRoyals baseball is the action movie where the hero walks into an ambush and somehow never gets hit.
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11:01 |
Comment From OblargPerhaps Ned Yost is actually a wizard?
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11:01 |
Comment From MattMaybe Aoki had a ball in his pocket?
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11:02 |
Comment From Skoolbolboy jimHe was behind Cain when it caught it. He couldn’t even see it, incredible!
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11:02 |
Dave Cameron: That really is miraculous.
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11:03 |
David Temple: Pretty fun game, right?
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11:04 |
Dave Cameron: When scouts say a player has a long swing, they are talking about the one Hosmer just took.
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11:06 |
Dave Cameron: Pop-up Weaver.
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11:07 |
David Temple: Oh man, I forgot. I used to post music videos during the commercials so people had something else to watch.
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11:07 |
David Temple: If Cameron lets me do another chat, I’ll do that.
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11:07 |
Comment From ComptonHow, exactly, does one become a popup specialist like Weaver?
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11:07 |
Comment From dgrusselface the Royals.
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11:07 |
Dave Cameron: Four-seamers at the top of the zone with pinpoint command. If you’re too high, they won’t swing. Too low, it’s a dinger.
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11:08 |
Dave Cameron: In talking with some players, they’ve expressed the notion of a thin slice of the strike zone that is kryptonite. Looks great to swing at, but hard to get the swing plane high enough to hit it squarely.
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11:09 |
Dave Cameron: It’s how Chris Young survives, basically.
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11:09 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreWhat can Chris Tillman do in the offseason to put hitters away? All season long, he seems to get into a lot of 8/9/10 pitch batters? Is it really just location?
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11:10 |
Comment From Skoolbolboy jimChris Young survives?
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11:10 |
Dave Cameron: Career ERA- of 93 over 1,000+ innings? Yes.
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11:10 |
Comment From Riding the Hershey HighwayPetco and Safeco are how Chris Young survives on that plan
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11:10 |
Dave Cameron: Infield flies are infield flies everywhere.
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11:10 |
David Temple: I know with Phil Hughes (who has the same problem), it could have to do with the movement of his fastball and breaking stuff. His was very similar. Allowed hitters to just swing and hope.
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11:11 |
Comment From ColeDo you think Weaver could still be as successful pitching down in the zone
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11:11 |
Comment From GuestSo, time to just take pitches then
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11:11 |
Dave Cameron: No. Weaver’s entire game is pitching up.
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11:13 |
Comment From benjamindoes herrera have a blister or something?
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11:13 |
Dave Cameron: Seems likely.
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11:14 |
Dave Cameron: Finnegan now, maybe?
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11:14 |
Comment From Rube WaddellWho do they roll with in Herrera’s spot if he’s a no-go from here on out?
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11:15 |
Comment From KimballCistulli is having quite a year, between Kluber and now Finnegan
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11:15 |
Dave Cameron: To be fair, Finnegan was a first round pick a few months ago, and projected as a top 5 guy for a while.
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11:15 |
Dave Cameron: So not exactly a nobody.
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11:15 |
Comment From chuckbWouldn’t you use Davis or Holland now, with the leadoff runner on, tie game, bottom of the 7th?
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11:15 |
Dave Cameron: Lefties coming up.
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11:18 |
Comment From GuestAny chance Finnegan gets in the rotation next year?
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11:18 |
Dave Cameron: Strong chance, I’d say.
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11:19 |
David Temple: Finnegan fielded that pretty well.
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11:19 |
Dave Cameron: Awkward catch there.
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11:19 |
Comment From sempertyStill early for bunting? Or is the 7th good?
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11:19 |
Dave Cameron: That was fine, I think.
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11:19 |
Comment From OblargSo, the Angels have sac bunted before the Royals. Opposites day?
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11:20 |
Comment From GuestThey’ve also hit two dingers
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11:20 |
Comment From sempertyNah, Royals are still homer-less
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11:20 |
Comment From sempertyThe Royals haven’t hit a HR
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11:20 |
David Temple: Point made, hive mind.
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11:21 |
Comment From chuckbRight call here.
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11:21 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreWasn’t here for Orioles/Tigers chat, so excuse the question if asked already. Why did Asmus keep going to the bullpen after the game was decided? Mainly going to Coke to face Markakis.
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11:21 |
David Temple: Brad Ausmus’ bullpen decisions have come into question quite a bit all year.
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11:22 |
Comment From GuestWell, he’s not very smart and his bullpen isn’t any good, kind of a perfect storm.
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11:22 |
Comment From Larry BernandezBecause Coke is not that good
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11:22 |
Dave Cameron: Mopup work for a mopup reliever.
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11:23 |
David Temple: CJ Cron! He interests me.
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11:23 |
Comment From Martieyost hasn’t been bad these two games maybe stuck with Vargas too long but he’s been okay
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11:24 |
David Temple: What is happening.
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11:24 |
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I mostly agree with this. Reaction/bad decision ratio is way off.
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11:24 |
Comment From benjaminaoki lol
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11:24 |
Comment From OblargWhat on earth was that route?
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11:24 |
Comment From chuckbHorrendous route. Please mention that, Ernie.
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11:25 |
Comment From Larry Bernandezat least he caught it
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11:25 |
Comment From Jay29What’s the lowest Statcast route efficiency you can score while still making the catch?
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11:28 |
Dave Cameron: Joe Smith, super underrated.
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11:28 |
Comment From YoopkaDo you think Joe Smith’s name contributes to him being underrated?
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11:28 |
Dave Cameron: Absolutely.
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11:29 |
David Temple: Good strand rate.
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11:29 |
Comment From OblargJoe Smith or Darren O’Day?
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11:29 |
Dave Cameron: But I like O’Day too.
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11:30 |
Comment From AnonymousI hope that was an ironic hat-tip
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11:31 |
Comment From Not an expert“The Royals outfield defense is great” *shows fielding percentage*
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11:31 |
Dave Cameron: At least they aren’t wrong.
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11:31 |
David Temple: Trout coming up third in the 8th, btw.
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11:32 |
Comment From The Tools of IgnoranceI can’t stand this commentary, so I have the game on mute and am listening to a webcast rerun of my amateur baseball championship game last weekend…too much?
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11:33 |
Comment From Rube WaddellHow far off are we from seeing more advanced statistics on national broadcasts?
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11:33 |
Dave Cameron: ESPN uses them.
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11:33 |
David Temple: I mean, they are still talking about the game at hand. If you want to listen to something else, fire up Spotify or something. That’s what I do when I play NHL 15.
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11:33 |
Comment From Glenfox sports 1 is doing that JABO simulcast deal
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11:34 |
Dave Cameron: Right, next week.
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11:34 |
Comment From dgrusselare there game chats for tomorrow?
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11:35 |
Dave Cameron: All of them.
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11:35 |
Dave Cameron: Noon to midnight. One big long chat with rotating hosts.
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11:35 |
Comment From MattAny fangraphs people among their “special guests?”
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11:35 |
Dave Cameron: No, but Rob will be using our data a bunch.
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11:36 |
Comment From dgrusselyou guys are awesome. who has the early game? I’m paying for FanGraphs+ mostly because I just want to financially support the site in some manner
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11:36 |
Dave Cameron: Brad Johnson and Carson have the first shift.
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11:36 |
Dave Cameron: And thank you!
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11:37 |
Comment From Glenwhy does no broadcaster EVER mention odorozzi?
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11:37 |
Dave Cameron: They’ve probably never heard of him.
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11:38 |
Dave Cameron: That looked like an easy strike.
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11:38 |
Dave Cameron: That was basically down the middle.
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11:38 |
Comment From Seth F.TBS broadcaster talking about how well Perez framed that pitch…for some reason….
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11:38 |
Dave Cameron: Perez is a bad framer too.
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11:39 |
Comment From KyleYou bunt they walk Trout WTF!
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11:39 |
Dave Cameron: Yeah, don’t like the bunt here.
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11:40 |
Dave Cameron: No way you should be bunting 2-0.
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11:40 |
Dave Cameron: with a good hitter.
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11:40 |
Dave Cameron: and Trout on deck.
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11:41 |
Comment From chuckbSurely Scioscia’s not bunting 3-1.
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11:41 |
David Temple: Hey, I’m back. Sorry.
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11:41 |
Dave Cameron: You would hope not.
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11:42 |
David Temple: “Bunting is almost always dumb.” – my wife.
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11:42 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreEasy DP if he MM let it drop too.
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11:42 |
Comment From GuestThats the bunt of a player who has rarely been asked to bunt before
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11:43 |
Comment From ComptonDavid still trying to convince us he didn’t kill his wife.
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11:43 |
Comment From AndyDT’s wife didn’t really say that…you may recall that he murdered her
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11:43 |
David Temple: She came home from roller derby practice, saw that on tv, and stated that previous quote.
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11:44 |
David Temple: The point is, I did OK for myself.
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11:44 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreRoller Derby practice? At least make it believable.
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11:44 |
David Temple: Minnesota Roller Girls, yo!
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11:44 |
Dave Cameron: Iannetta with a super risky advance.
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11:44 |
Dave Cameron: Stop trying to make outs in front of Mike Trout.
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11:45 |
Comment From JoeWhen David actually kills her, this transcript is going to be so much less funny.
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11:45 |
Comment From Seth F.Man, if they had thrown him out they could have given an assist the the umpire’s balls.
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11:45 |
David Temple: I know this is morbid, but she would find it humorous.
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11:46 |
Comment From BrianFastball up, strike three
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11:46 |
Comment From benjaminfastball not far enough up, 4-2
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11:47 |
Comment From OblargThere should be a rule against stepping out twice between pitches.
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11:47 |
Dave Cameron: MLB testing out new no-step-out rules in AFL this year.
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11:48 |
Dave Cameron: Off the ump again.
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11:49 |
Comment From KimballTrout made contact with a high strike!
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11:49 |
Dave Cameron: I think everyone in the park knows that Davis wants to go hard/up here.
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11:50 |
Comment From AJTGreat AB by Trout
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11:50 |
Comment From benjamini’d warm up holland right now
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11:50 |
Comment From LGAngels27Pujols is going to GDP somehow.
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11:50 |
David Temple: Is Mike Scioscia having a hot flash?
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11:50 |
Dave Cameron: He does that a lot.
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11:50 |
Comment From ComptonMaybe not the worst thing in the world to walk Trout there?
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11:50 |
Dave Cameron: Puts go ahead run at second, though.
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11:51 |
Comment From sempertyGo ahead run was already at 2B
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11:51 |
Dave Cameron: Right, my bad.
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11:52 |
Comment From YoopkaAngels hitters are gonna make this a 12 hour game at this rate
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11:52 |
Dave Cameron: The Red Sox approve.
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11:52 |
Comment From sempertyHerrera with “fore arm tightness”, by the way.
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11:52 |
Dave Cameron: That’s not great.
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11:52 |
Dave Cameron: forearm tightness often means TJ surgery.
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11:53 |
Dave Cameron: Infante almost whiffed on that.
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11:54 |
Comment From chuckbNo infield fly called there? Thoughts, Braves fans?
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11:54 |
David Temple: Swing hard in case you hit it.
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11:54 |
Comment From chuckbLuckily that hanger hung a little too high
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11:55 |
Comment From benjamindavis made kendrick look foolish in that AB
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11:55 |
Comment From AnonymousWade Davis is a bad, bad man
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11:56 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreSo do you FGs fellas believe that no relief pitcher should get a 3 year deal? And is there any reliever you might break that mold for?
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11:56 |
Dave Cameron: No, we don’t believe that.
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11:57 |
Comment From sempertyDo you save Holland to face the top of the order, or use him vs. Beckham/Aybar/Hamilton?
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11:57 |
Dave Cameron: I’d probably mix and match in the 9th, save Holland for the good hitters.
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11:57 |
Dave Cameron: But have him warming in case the mixing and matching isn’t working.
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11:58 |
Comment From GuestDave, are relievers undervalued in the playoffs? Is say, Andrew Miller more valuable than a starter if you can manage the bullpen correctly in the playoffs?
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11:58 |
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I’ve written about this. Relievers are more valuable than one start starters in October, so you’d rather have a relief ace than a #4 starter if given the choice.
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11:59 |
Comment From sempertyDoes a relief ace and #4 starter cost the same?
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11:59 |
Dave Cameron: Roughly, yes.
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11:59 |
Dave Cameron: Though you can develop relief aces for cheap.
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12:00 |
Comment From AJTEscobar looked awful
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12:00 |
Dave Cameron: He has a really loopy swing on breaking balls, but it worked earlier.
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12:01 |
Comment From chuckbPossible that Wacha could be that relief ace for the Cards this year or is that just me wishcasting.?
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12:01 |
Dave Cameron: Depends on health, probably. Using a guy with recent arm problems aggressively on back-to-back days might be tough.
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12:02 |
Dave Cameron: Collins warming, so he’s probably the pick.
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12:02 |
Dave Cameron: With Holland as insurance.
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12:02 |
Dave Cameron: Which is what I’d do.
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12:03 |
David Temple: Whew. That was close.
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12:03 |
Dave Cameron: Kinda lazy there, Albert.
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12:03 |
Comment From LGAngels27Stop jogging, Pujols.
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12:04 |
Comment From KimballIf you knew that one game today would be a blowout, and the other a pitcher’s duel tied in the ninth, would you have picked correctly?
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12:04 |
Dave Cameron: Probably would have picked the other game as a blowout but other direction.
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12:08 |
Dave Cameron: Not sure that hit him.
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12:10 |
Comment From Guesthow on earth yost didnt challenge the HBP this late in the game? save it for what?
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12:11 |
Comment From GuestRemember when Josh Hamilton was good?
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12:12 |
David Temple: Tim Collins – Just a little bit taller than his teammates standing on the first step of the dugout.
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12:12 |
Comment From OblargSo, at this point which Hamilton would you rather have? Josh or Billy?
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12:12 |
Dave Cameron: Billy, not close.
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12:12 |
Comment From someoneI could have sworn Collins was a submariner. Am I crazy?
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12:12 |
Dave Cameron: He’s really short, so his normal delivery looks sidearm.
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12:13 |
Comment From chuckbAlmost rather have Alexander Hamilton
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12:13 |
David Temple: I was discussing with a friend how much $ Hamilton was still owed and he straight-up called me a liar. Would not believe it.
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12:13 |
Dave Cameron: Contract is backloaded too.
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12:13 |
Dave Cameron: Makes $30M per year at the end.
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12:14 |
Dave Cameron: Frasor, not Holland.
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12:16 |
Comment From dgrusselRipken speaks on average once every 7 minutes
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12:16 |
Dave Cameron: I’m okay with this.
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12:18 |
Comment From dgrusseldo these announcers get paid as wildly as I imagine for doing these games?
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12:19 |
David Temple: I’m sure it’s absurd.
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12:19 |
Dave Cameron: Walking CJ Cron isn’t so easy.
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12:20 |
Comment From JamesCan’t be as much as you two I’m sure.
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12:20 |
David Temple: TBS can’t afford us.
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12:20 |
Dave Cameron: Speak for yourself.
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12:20 |
Comment From sempertyThat was insane. If Frasor doesn’t touch the ball, that’s game.
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12:21 |
David Temple: I say this with no snark: I think Dave would be a great color guy. His view of the game is unmatched.
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12:22 |
David Temple: I mean, maybe some classes would be in order, but baseball comes so easy to him. He’d be great.
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12:22 |
David Temple: (Dave C has no input in my pay)
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12:22 |
Dave Cameron: I would be a terrible color guy.
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12:23 |
Dave Cameron: I talk insanely fast. I stumble over words. My voice cracks. I make nerdy jokes that no one laughs at.
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12:23 |
David Temple: I really think you’d be good. I’m not kissing butt. Well, I would love it at least.
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12:23 |
Dave Cameron: I would be a disaster, but thanks for the butt kissing.
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12:23 |
David Temple: Perhaps you would not test well. If we could beam your thoughts into someone else, perhaps.
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12:24 |
David Temple: I think that’s what I’m getting at. I just want your brain.
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12:24 |
Dave Cameron: You can have it when I die. But you can’t kill me like you did my wife.
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12:24 |
David Temple: But that dog would have to go 🙂
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12:25 |
Dave Cameron: See, I screw up jokes.
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12:25 |
Comment From MartieThere’s a very good game going on guys
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12:25 |
Dave Cameron: Someone struck out. News at 11.
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12:25 |
David Temple: Oh, we’re mostly paying attention.
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12:26 |
Comment From SteveFangraphs just got a shot out on ESPN Radio.
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12:26 |
Dave Cameron: Probably Jon Sciambi. He’s awesome.
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12:26 |
Comment From eric wprediction – how many innings?
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12:26 |
Comment From Doctor Hoistquit flirting
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12:26 |
Comment From semperty18. I’m going with 18 innings. Final answer.
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12:26 |
Dave Cameron: I will not live blog 18.
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12:27 |
Dave Cameron: Just saying it ahead of time.
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12:27 |
David Temple: Oh I will. I give very little attention to my real job.
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12:27 |
Comment From Only potatoeswhats your real job?
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12:27 |
Dave Cameron: Jepsen’s pitches this at-bat: middle-middle or almost to the backstop.
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12:28 |
David Temple: Very boring IT stuff.
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12:28 |
Dave Cameron: Anything but a walk by Butler there would have been grounds for extermination.
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12:28 |
Dave Cameron: Terrance Gore.
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12:28 |
Dave Cameron: He’s going to run.
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12:28 |
David Temple: It’s almost guaranteed.
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12:29 |
Comment From AnonymousI believe it’s ‘Grounds for termination’. Extermination seems a bit extreme for a baseball play.
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12:29 |
Dave Cameron: I meant what I said.
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12:30 |
Dave Cameron: Not even taking a big lead.
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12:30 |
Dave Cameron: Interesting.
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12:31 |
Comment From morFDoes he steal third here?
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12:31 |
Comment From YorkWhy is he carrying his gloves?
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12:31 |
David Temple: Some guys do that so they don’t bust up their fingers. Makes them slide knuckles first.
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12:31 |
Dave Cameron: He liked Willie Mays Hayes.
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12:32 |
Comment From OblargWhat would you think of a double-steal here?
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12:32 |
Dave Cameron: I wouldn’t risk Gordon running.
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12:32 |
Dave Cameron: Just have Gore take third.
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12:33 |
David Temple: This is a good baseball game.
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12:33 |
Comment From chuckbGordon should run if Gore goes. Pujols is nowhere near the bag & he can get a huge jump.
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12:34 |
Dave Cameron: Steal is off the table now too.
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12:34 |
Dave Cameron: Or should be at least.
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12:35 |
David Temple: One would think.
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12:35 |
Dave Cameron: New school is not “get to third, there’s so many other ways to score”
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12:36 |
Dave Cameron: Infante swinging at a pitch over his head.
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12:39 |
Comment From KimballDo you find it weird that damn-you-nerdy-bloggers-in-your-basements follow you on Twitter?
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12:39 |
David Temple: Nobody follows me on Twitter.
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12:39 |
Dave Cameron: People like to troll.
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12:39 |
David Temple: Same reason I follow JPM.
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12:40 |
David Temple: Restroom time!
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12:40 |
Comment From TracyRest of Career: Bryan Cranston or Leonardo Dicaprio?
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12:42 |
Dave Cameron: And apparently it’s going to be Duffy against the heart of the LAA order.
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12:42 |
Dave Cameron: Which is mostly RH.
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12:42 |
Dave Cameron: Not great, Ned. Not great.
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12:42 |
David Temple: I love Cranston, but imagine Leo when he’s 50-60. Dude’s gonna out-Brando Brando.
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12:43 |
David Temple: Anyway, baseball.
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12:44 |
Comment From KK-SwizzleSo this means we won’t see Holland, unless the Royals get a lead, right? Isn
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12:44 |
Dave Cameron: Right. This is Duffy until Royals get lead or lose.
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12:45 |
Comment From AdamWhat is the “business end” of a baseball?
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12:45 |
Dave Cameron: We need a physics professor for this. Get Alan Nathan.
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12:45 |
Comment From baseballYou don’t think Yost would get fired in the offseason?
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12:46 |
Comment From JoeI love the huge ball boy.
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12:47 |
David Temple: Proof that hyphens or commas can really impact a sentence.
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12:49 |
David Temple: Joe (in the comments) – I hear your argument, but this is not the place. Perhaps some other time.
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12:49 |
Dave Cameron: Trout missed a meatball.
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12:49 |
Comment From Claymag69Hard not to want a Mike Trout hero post-season moment..
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12:49 |
Comment From AnonymousPosting from the future. You guys are going to LOVE how this game ends…
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12:50 |
Comment From someoneMike Trout theft of home. calling it.
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12:50 |
Dave Cameron: Duffy gets Trout out with low-inside fastballs.
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12:50 |
David Temple: You heard it from someone…
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12:50 |
Dave Cameron: Trout kills low-inside fastballs.
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12:52 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreAny chance Trout runs here?
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12:52 |
Comment From Rob, BaltimoreAny chance Trout runs here?
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12:52 |
David Temple: I don’t see it.
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12:52 |
Dave Cameron: Seems like no.
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12:52 |
Dave Cameron: With two outs, though, he should go.
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12:52 |
Dave Cameron: Cost of a CS is now quite low.
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12:52 |
Comment From Grandpa CistulliWhat’s the deal with Trout not stealing as much this year?
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12:52 |
Dave Cameron: He got slower.
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12:53 |
David Temple: (and bigger)
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12:53 |
Dave Cameron: Those are related…
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12:54 |
Comment From PennsyIs Trout really the best player in MLB, by far, going into 2015? I always thought so much of his value was tied into his well-roundedness.
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12:54 |
Dave Cameron: If you think defense isn’t worth much, you could argue for Kershaw.
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12:54 |
Dave Cameron: But it’s one of those two.
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12:55 |
Comment From ZachIt looks like Trout still runs well though
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12:55 |
Dave Cameron: Trout-lite. Great player, but worse version of same skillset.
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12:55 |
Comment From OblargWhat about McCutchen?
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12:56 |
David Temple: My laptop is at 6% battery. Time to find the charger.
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12:57 |
Dave Cameron: I’m at 12%.
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12:58 |
Comment From SF Dave6% battery on a laptop is about 45 seconds. That gives DC about 90 to find a charger and keep us connected
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12:59 |
Comment From captain obvious“it’s one of those two.” over the past 3 years, trout has kershaw beat by almost 10 WAR. the difference between trout and kershaw over that period is the same as the difference between kershaw and phil hughes.
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1:00 |
Dave Cameron: Trout has been better. Trout might not be better going forward, by a lot.
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1:00 |
Dave Cameron: And I did put in that the argument would require that you don’t put much value on defense.
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1:00 |
Comment From RukiSOLO ROYALS!
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1:01 |
Comment From Doctor Hoistwow
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1:01 |
Comment From SF DaveI knew it coming out of ST!
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1:01 |
Comment From ComptonMoose?!
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1:02 |
David Temple: Eno thought Hosmer hit that.
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1:03 |
Comment From eric wsame stupid haircut
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1:03 |
Comment From SF DaveEno’s had a few libations
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1:04 |
Comment From sempertyAlso, for the Trout/Kershaw debate, going by RA9-WAR it’s like 5 WAR the last 3 seasons, not quite 10 wins.
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1:06 |
David Temple: Regardless, I’m excited for the game tomorrow.
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1:06 |
Comment From Andynow the Angels have a sac bunt and the Royals have a homer. Happy?
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1:08 |
Dave Cameron: It’s not hard to believe that they would take out Aoki, Ron Darling. We watched him run.
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1:09 |
Comment From JoeI just got the Eno/Hosmer joke.
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1:09 |
Comment From sempertyThe fact that the Royals defense is good enough to force Cain to RF gives me the warm-fuzzies all over.
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1:10 |
Dave Cameron: Gordon Beckham was a very good hitter in college. He looked like he couldn’t hit a college pitcher today.
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1:11 |
Dave Cameron: Maybe stop swinging at pitches thrown 50 feet?
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1:12 |
Comment From FletchNasty.
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1:12 |
Comment From SF DaveTerrable
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1:12 |
Comment From AnonymousGreg Holland, you naaaasty
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1:12 |
Comment From Adamwhoa, terrible
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1:12 |
Dave Cameron: So it’s a 50/50 nasty/terrible split.
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1:12 |
David Temple: Not a swing.
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1:13 |
Dave Cameron: You have to at least go to third base ump.
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1:13 |
David Temple: Well, then.
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1:14 |
Dave Cameron: The Royals have some more magic.
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1:14 |
David Temple: I guess that’s it for us.
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1:14 |
Dave Cameron: Thanks for hanging out with us everyone.
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1:14 |
Dave Cameron: Come back tomorrow for one crazy long live blog.
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