An Improved KATOH Top-100 List

Back in January, I made some tweaks to my KATOH projection system, and have been using that updated model for the past several months. That model was unquestionably better than the previous versions, but it left me unsatisfied. While it addressed many of the flaws from previous iterations, there was still a lot of information it wasn’t taking into account.

I’ve been plugging away behind the scenes, and finally have a new version KATOH to share with the world. In what follows, you’ll find some detail on the new model, including its notable updates. I’ll be using this model in all of my prospect analysis from this point forward. Below, you’ll find a quick run-through of the notable tweaks, followed by an updated top-100 list.

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Added Features

Choosing projection window based on level, rather than age

In my previous model, I projected out based on a player’s age. If a player were 22, I projected him through age 28; If he were 24, I projected through age 30. This resulted in KATOH undervaluing players who were old for their level. The goal of KATOH is to predict the value a player will generate during his six-plus years of team control. By projecting a 22-year-old through age 28, KATOH failed to capture some of that value in cases where the 22-year-old was still in A-ball.

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This time around, I chose my windows based on level, rather than age. I projected the next six seasons for players in Triple-A. I did the next seven for players in Double-A, eight for A-ballers, and nine for Rookie ballers.

Accounting for defensive performance, not just position

KATOH got significantly better when I added defensive position to the mix last winter, but there was still a lot for which I wasn’t accounting on the defensive side of things. Most notably, I was ignoring how good or bad a player was at the position he was playing. As we learned last decade when defensive metrics became a thing, the gap between a good defender and a bad defender at the same position can be huge. I’ve addressed this issue by incorporating minor-league defensive data compiled and published by Clay Davenport.

Somewhat surprisingly, the defensive metrics don’t add a ton of predictive value to what was already picked up by a players’ defensive position. A strong minor-league defensive performance will help a player’s projection, but won’t make a huge difference in most cases. It’s my guess that this has something to do with the fact that minor leaguers are often learning new positions, where they might be prone to making a lot of errors.

Incorporating ground-ball rates for pitchers

I also incorporated ground-ball rates for pitchers that I pulled from Clay Davenport’s site. With all else being equal, ground-ball pitchers have rosier outlooks than fly-ball pitchers, though not by a wide margin. In other words, ground-ball rates don’t add a ton of predictive value that isn’t already picked up by more conventional metrics.

Incorporating Baseball America top-100 lists

I’ve been conflicted about whether to include prospect rankings in my projections. There will always be important information the stats just don’t pick up that actual humans can. As a result, adding a variable for “BA rank” improves the models.

So why not include something that improves the projections? Well, for one, there’s potentially an issue of data consistency. The methodology behind 2016’s Baseball America rankings is unquestionably different than the methodology behind their 1991 rankings. They were done by different people who were using different information, so they aren’t necessarily consistent across years.

Secondly, there’s the philosophical question regarding what we want from KATOH. Incorporating scouting data makes KATOH a more accurate projection system, and makes it more useful as a stand-alone. But KATOH isn’t meant to act as a stand-alone. Rather, it’s best used as a tool for identifying potentially under- or overrated prospects. Including a variable for prospect ranking causes KATOH to shade closer to the industry consensus. This makes it more difficult to identify the guys KATOH likes and dislikes relative to the establishment. Perhaps I’m overthinking things, but I don’t think “more accurate” necessarily equates to “more useful” in this case.

Rather than picking a lane, I decided to create two parallel KATOHs: one that incorporates top-100 ranking and one that doesn’t. This is similar to what FiveThirtyEight does with their election forecasts, where they have a “polls only” model and one that also incorporates an index for economic performance. I will call the scouting-infused version “KATOH+” and will leave the original moniker to the one that excludes the BA rankings.

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Top-100 Lists

The models and lists I’m unveiling today aren’t perfect, but if held off on publishing projections until I had a system with which I was completely happy, I’d never write another article for FanGraphs. All in all, I’m content with what I have (for now, at least). I still have some ideas to improve things, but I’m saving them for another day.

This considers all players with at least 200 plate appearances or batters faced (plus Jose De Leon, since I know someone would ask). The figures in the far-right column refer to each player’s projected WAR over his first six seasons in the major leagues. As a reminder, these forecasts are not gospel. Take my math as seriously as you wish.

First, the version that considers stats only, and not prospect rankings.

KATOH Top 100
Rank Player Org Position KATOH
1 Alex Bregman Astros SS 17.1
2 Dylan Cozens Phillies OF 14.1
3 Jose De Leon Dodgers RHP 10.4
4 Joey Gallo Rangers 3B 10.3
5 Manuel Margot Padres OF 10.0
6 J.P. Crawford Phillies SS 10.0
7 Alex Verdugo Dodgers OF 10.0
8 Trea Turner Nationals SS 9.6
9 Ozzie Albies Braves 2B 9.4
10 Austin Meadows Pirates OF 9.3
11 Andrew Benintendi Red Sox OF 9.1
12 David Dahl Rockies OF 9.0
13 Jake Bauers Rays OF 8.5
14 Tyler Glasnow Pirates RHP 8.1
15 Lewis Brinson Rangers OF 7.7
16 Zack Granite Twins OF 7.5
17 Bradley Zimmer Indians OF 7.4
18 Alex Reyes Cardinals RHP 7.3
19 Jameson Taillon Pirates RHP 7.3
20 Edwin Rios Dodgers 3B 7.3
21 Orlando Arcia Brewers SS 7.2
22 Yoan Moncada Red Sox 2B 7.1
23 Tyler O’Neill Mariners OF 7.0
24 Willie Calhoun Dodgers 2B 6.9
25 Mitchell Haniger Diamondbacks OF 6.9
26 Rhys Hoskins Phillies 1B 6.7
27 Willy Adames Rays SS 6.7
28 Gavin Cecchini Mets SS 6.4
29 Blake Snell Rays LHP 6.4
30 Victor Robles Nationals OF 6.3
31 Trey Mancini Orioles 1B 6.3
(32) Zach Eflin* Phillies RHP 6.3
32 Willson Contreras Cubs C 6.2
33 Derek Fisher Astros OF 6.2
(34) Dalton Pompey* Blue Jays OF 6.2
34 Jose Berrios Twins RHP 6.0
35 Dansby Swanson Braves SS 6.0
36 Amed Rosario Mets SS 5.9
37 A.J. Reed Astros 1B 5.9
38 Kyle Tucker Astros OF 5.8
39 Luis Arraez Twins 2B 5.7
40 Harrison Bader Cardinals OF 5.7
41 Gary Sanchez Yankees C 5.7
42 Gleyber Torres Cubs SS 5.6
43 Andrew Toles Dodgers OF 5.6
44 Raul Mondesi Royals SS 5.6
45 Kevin Newman Pirates SS 5.6
46 Joe Musgrove Astros RHP 5.5
47 Luis Urias Padres 2B 5.5
48 Hunter Dozier Royals 3B 5.5
49 Reese Mcguire Pirates C 5.5
50 Josh Bell Pirates 1B 5.4
51 Cody Reed Reds LHP 5.3
52 Brandon Nimmo Mets OF 5.2
53 Garrett Stubbs Astros C 5.2
54 Albert Almora Cubs OF 5.2
55 Max Moroff Pirates 3B 5.1
56 Jesse Winker Reds OF 5.1
57 Boog Powell Mariners OF 5.0
58 Jorge Polanco Twins SS 5.0
59 Brock Stewart Dodgers RHP 5.0
60 Dan Vogelbach Mariners 1B 5.0
61 Rowdy Tellez Blue Jays 1B 5.0
62 Josh Hader Brewers LHP 4.9
63 Raimel Tapia Rockies OF 4.9
64 Benjamin Gamel Yankees OF 4.9
65 Cody Bellinger Dodgers 1B 4.9
66 Matt Chapman Athletics 3B 4.9
67 Adam Frazier Pirates OF 4.8
68 Kyle Higashioka Yankees C 4.8
(69) Luis Severino* Yankees RHP 4.7
69 Samir Duenez Royals OF 4.6
70 Aaron Judge Yankees OF 4.6
71 Franklin Barreto Athletics SS 4.6
72 Chance Sisco Orioles C 4.6
73 Andrew Knapp Phillies C 4.6
74 Lucas Giolito Nationals RHP 4.5
75 Luke Weaver Cardinals RHP 4.5
76 Andrew Aplin Astros OF 4.5
77 Kyle Wren Brewers OF 4.5
78 Ryan Cordell Rangers OF 4.4
79 German Marquez Rockies RHP 4.4
80 Josh Naylor Marlins 1B 4.4
81 Stephen Gonsalves Twins LHP 4.4
82 Austin Barnes Dodgers C 4.4
83 David Paulino Astros RHP 4.3
84 Charlie Tilson Cardinals OF 4.3
85 Reynaldo Lopez Nationals RHP 4.3
86 Eloy Jimenez Cubs OF 4.3
87 Oscar Hernandez Diamondbacks C 4.3
88 JaCoby Jones Tigers SS 4.2
89 Jeff Hoffman Rockies RHP 4.2
90 Rafael Devers Red Sox 3B 4.2
91 Jordan Patterson Rockies OF 4.2
92 Chad Green Yankees RHP 4.2
(93) Dilson Herrera* Mets 2B 4.1
93 Daniel Palka Twins OF 4.1
94 Sean Reid-Foley Blue Jays RHP 4.1
(95) Tim Anderson* White Sox SS 4.1
95 Nick Williams Phillies OF 4.0
96 Cody Reed Diamondbacks LHP 3.9
97 Brent Honeywell Rays RHP 3.9
98 Max Povse Braves RHP 3.9
99 Richard Urena Blue Jays SS 3.9
100 Tyler Austin Yankees OF 3.9
104 Phil Bickford** Giants RHP 3.8
111 Nick Delmonico** White Sox 1B 3.6
133 Sherman Johnson** Angels 2B 3.3
*No longer rookie eligible.
**Not in top 100, but top prospect in organization.

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This next list incorporates stats, as well as rankings from Baseball America’s Midseason Top 100.

KATOH+ Top 100
Rank Player Org Position KATOH
1 Alex Bregman Astros SS 17.7
2 J.P. Crawford Phillies SS 16.5
3 Trea Turner Nationals SS 15.1
4 Andrew Benintendi Red Sox OF 14.4
5 Yoan Moncada Red Sox 2B 13.0
6 Austin Meadows Pirates OF 13.0
7 Alex Reyes Cardinals RHP 12.4
8 Manuel Margot Padres OF 12.1
9 Dansby Swanson Braves SS 12.0
10 Joey Gallo Rangers 3B 11.9
11 Jose De Leon Dodgers RHP 11.8
12 Ozzie Albies Braves 2B 11.8
13 Tyler Glasnow Pirates RHP 11.7
14 David Dahl Rockies OF 11.1
15 Victor Robles Nationals OF 10.2
16 Kyle Tucker Astros OF 10.1
17 Lewis Brinson Rangers OF 9.9
18 Orlando Arcia Brewers SS 9.9
19 Bradley Zimmer Indians OF 9.9
20 Alex Verdugo Dodgers OF 9.8
21 Lucas Giolito Nationals RHP 9.3
22 Jake Bauers Rays OF 8.7
23 Dylan Cozens Phillies OF 8.4
24 Josh Bell Pirates 1B 8.3
25 Willy Adames Rays SS 8.3
26 Amed Rosario Mets SS 8.2
27 Jose Berrios Twins RHP 8.1
28 Joe Musgrove Astros RHP 7.2
29 Gleyber Torres Cubs SS 7.1
30 Zack Granite Twins OF 7.1
31 Jameson Taillon Pirates RHP 7.0
32 Kevin Newman Pirates SS 6.8
33 Tyler O’Neill Mariners OF 6.6
34 Gary Sanchez Yankees C 6.6
35 Brent Honeywell Rays RHP 6.5
36 Willie Calhoun Dodgers 2B 6.3
37 Jesse Winker Reds OF 6.3
38 Blake Snell Rays LHP 6.3
39 Josh Hader Brewers LHP 6.3
40 Willson Contreras Cubs C 6.3
41 Rafael Devers Red Sox 3B 6.2
42 Cody Bellinger Dodgers 1B 6.1
43 A.J. Reed Astros 1B 6.0
44 Raul Mondesi Royals SS 6.0
45 Jorge Polanco Twins SS 5.9
(46) Zach Eflin* Phillies RHP 5.9
46 Edwin Rios Dodgers 3B 5.8
47 Franklin Barreto Athletics SS 5.7
48 Eloy Jimenez Cubs OF 5.7
49 Gavin Cecchini Mets SS 5.5
50 Brandon Nimmo Mets OF 5.5
51 Aaron Judge Yankees OF 5.5
52 Derek Fisher Astros OF 5.4
53 Kyle Wren Brewers OF 5.3
54 Max Moroff Pirates 3B 5.3
55 Reynaldo Lopez Nationals RHP 5.3
56 Jeff Hoffman Rockies RHP 5.3
57 Brendan Rodgers Rockies SS 5.3
58 Nick Williams Phillies OF 5.2
59 Cody Reed Reds LHP 5.2
60 Phil Bickford Giants RHP 5.1
61 Raimel Tapia Rockies OF 5.1
62 Luis Arraez Twins 2B 5.1
63 Reese Mcguire Pirates C 5.1
64 Luis Urias Padres 2B 5.1
65 Harrison Bader Cardinals OF 5.0
66 David Paulino Astros RHP 5.0
67 Adam Frazier Pirates OF 5.0
68 Anderson Espinoza Padres RHP 4.9
(69) Dalton Pompey* Blue Jays OF 4.9
69 Dan Vogelbach Mariners 1B 4.9
70 Benjamin Gamel Yankees OF 4.9
71 Luke Weaver Cardinals RHP 4.9
72 Andrew Toles Dodgers OF 4.8
73 Clint Frazier Indians OF 4.7
74 Garrett Stubbs Astros C 4.7
75 Brock Stewart Dodgers RHP 4.7
76 Boog Powell Mariners OF 4.6
77 Josh Naylor Marlins 1B 4.6
78 Rhys Hoskins Phillies 1B 4.5
79 Mitch Keller Pirates RHP 4.5
(80) Luis Severino* Yankees RHP 4.4
80 Chance Sisco Orioles C 4.4
81 Charlie Tilson Cardinals LHP 4.4
82 Trey Mancini Orioles 1B 4.4
83 Jorge Mateo Yankees SS 4.3
84 Austin Barnes Dodgers C 4.3
85 Nick Gordon Twins SS 4.3
86 Sean Reid-Foley Blue Jays RHP 4.2
87 Albert Almora Cubs OF 4.2
88 Andrew Knapp Phillies C 4.2
89 Chad Green Yankees RHP 4.1
90 Francis Martes Astros RHP 4.1
91 Andrew Aplin Astros OF 4.1
92 Hunter Dozier Royals 3B 4.0
93 Mitchell Haniger Diamondbacks OF 4.0
94 Adalberto Mejia Giants LHP 3.9
95 Samir Duenez Royals OF 3.9
96 Jordan Patterson Rockies OF 3.9
(97) Tim Anderson* White Sox SS 3.9
97 Jose Peraza Reds 2B 3.8
98 Jake Thompson Phillies RHP 3.8
99 Amir Garrett Reds LHP 3.7
100 Tony Kemp Astros 2B 3.7
156 Sherman Johnson** Angels 2B 2.8
168 Adam Engel** White Sox OF 2.6
*No longer rookie eligible.
**Not in top 100, but top prospect in organization.

Note: The KATOH+ top 100 list I originally published was slightly inaccurate. My code was not correctly pulling BA rankings for hitters at the Low-A level, which caused the system to ignore the fact that Victor Robles, Kyle Tucker, Eloy Jimenez, Brendan Rodgers and Josh Naylor were top 100 prospects. As a result, these prospects were underrated in the second list. The issue has been resolved.





Chris works in economic development by day, but spends most of his nights thinking about baseball. He writes for Pinstripe Pundits, FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. He's also on the twitter machine: @_chris_mitchell None of the views expressed in his articles reflect those of his daytime employer.

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free-range turducken
9 years ago

Can’t believe Cistulli’s given up on the Angels’ top prospect.

Trey Baughn
9 years ago

Interesting that Giolito gets a massive bump up the list only when the BA rankings are accounted for.

mattMember since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  Trey Baughn

His minor league stats aren’t that great

TonyMember since 2018
9 years ago

Does K% have a reduced role in the new KATOH? It looks like some high strikeout prospects seem to be ranked a tad higher than I would have expected. From your older commentary, I believe K% was a strong indicator of future performance at higher levels.

jdbolickMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

I agree with Tony, this model looks like it’s not placing enough emphasis on K%.

TonyMember since 2018
9 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

I think something about Bradley Zimmer seems overrated and the K% is a real red flag. 23yr/7mo in AA, .252 avg/28% K% isn’t anything to rave about despite all the ‘toolsyness’ all the scouts rave about.

Damaso
9 years ago
Reply to  Tony

agreed.

I almost think zimmer must be a simple data entry error. his numbers don’t seem to be anywhere near good enough in any respect to produce this kind of rank.

jdbolickMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Plus, he’s a college bat, so the fact that he’s already 23 isn’t super concerning.

It isn’t concerning, but it absolutely should discount the value of his production in AA. A 21 year old with a 137 wRC+ in AA is impressive whereas a 23 year old doing it is not. To my eye, the adjustments you made to this new model were a large step in the wrong direction.

TonyMember since 2018
9 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

At this point I feel Zimmer’s pathway towards the majors will diverge towards that of Jason Heyward or Jake Marisnick. Both are tall/lanky OF, plus fielding, great .spd, .200-ish iso, in minors. But biggest difference was Heyward K’ed only 9-14% in A+/AA as a 19yr old, while Marisnick K’d ~20% in AA. Eventually AAA/MLB pitching will catch up to Zimmer’s 25-28 K%, and weak contact could jeopardize his career.

d_iMember since 2016
9 years ago

So how do you handle someone like AJ Reed who wasn’t eligible for the latest BA list since he was in the majors? I see he is lower on the ranking incorporating the prospect rankings (not sure what the default is for players like him), but he would most definitely be ranked higher had he been eligible.

TKDCMember since 2016
9 years ago

How does KATOH deal with a guy liike Albies who is 19, crushed it at AA, then was mediocre at AAA, and is now crushing it again at AA? Does the ordering matter? As in, would his ranking change if he had just recently been called up to AAA and was struggling?

Damaso
9 years ago

A rigorous data analysis which both recognizes the ignored amazing performances of Blue Jays prospects Rowdy Tellez and Richard Urena AND sees that every red sox prospect is (over)rated significantly above their actual performance level (most especially devers and espinoza)?

Be still my beating heart. I love you, Chris Mitchell.

Manute Bol sings better than this
9 years ago
Reply to  Damaso

I analyzed the data, that the Blue Jays will ignore the opportunity to Netherlands Antilles and Richard Urena and prospects of all carbon monoxide (because) in its ability (such as Devers and Espinosa)?

My heart was still beating. I love you, Chris Mitchell.

Damaso
9 years ago

Rowdy Tellez to Dutch Antilles.

Fascinating.

redsoxu571
9 years ago
Reply to  Damaso

Rafael Devers has so far been a clone of Miguel Cabrera as a prospect. Even if Cabrera hadn’t continued on to becoming a superstar, there was an expectation that he would be a quality power bat in the major leagues, so “they” were right. So far, the treatment of Devers in most rankings has been similar to that of Cabrera’s, so you can’t say that he’s overrated on the basis of getting preferential treatment (as Cabrera got the same treatment) or that the similar treatment given Cabrera as a prospect was wrong (seeing as it was right and all).

Any ranking/projection system that is bearish on Devers is a system that still needs significant refinement. To be fair, such prospects are rather unique and so not the best inaccuracy for the creators of a system to take aim at, but rating him low is nonetheless “wrong” given baseball history.

If such an objectively still-flawed (but no system is perfect, this isn’t a criticism) system makes your heart flutter, that says more about you than about the relative value of said system.

Damaso
9 years ago
Reply to  redsoxu571

any system that doesn’t consider devers the next cabrera is fatally flawed.

got it.

jdbolickMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  redsoxu571

Rafael Devers has so far been a clone of Miguel Cabrera as a prospect.

No one cheerleaded Devers more last year than I did, and even I find this comment to be ridiculous. I watched him in person last season and this season, and I can tell you that Devers has legitimately taken a step back as a prospect. I was very excited about him last year because he had such an advanced, balanced approach at the plate such that he rarely got fooled and drove the ball the other way with authority. Sometime during the off-season he made adjustments to his swing that opened up his front foot and hip, presumably to sell out for pull power. That was a huge mistake in my view, as he surrendered his control of the outer portion and diminished his ability to adjust to off-speed pitches.

jrubyMember since 2026
9 years ago

14.1 for Dylan Cozens whaaaaaat?

Seriously, as a Phillies fan I love it. I guess .280/.366/.573 with 25 HR and 17 SB in 413 PAs at AA from a 22-year-old 6’6″, 235lb outfielder will do that for you though.

I see his K% is 28.8, which seems too high, but I guess KATOH sees that power/speed display from a guy his size and a 12.1% BB rate and says “physically, the sky’s the limit”?

mike sixelMember since 2016
9 years ago

I think everyone that has heard of Zach Granite is impressed with the stats….but 16th? Wow.

Brian ReinhartMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  mike sixel

Steve Stone is most impressed with his name.

Mahoney
9 years ago
Reply to  Brian Reinhart

Sounds like the Flintstones name for the new star pitcher on the Arizona Diamondrocks.

ap0001
9 years ago

A couple interesting Rockies notes: KATOH loved Kevin Padlo in the offseason and thought that trade was even worse than it looked on paper (it also assumed Dickerson and McGee would both not forget how to play baseball, which, oops), now it likes German Marquez just as much as it liked Padlo.

It also grades Jordan Patterson pretty highly (for Jordan Patterson standards) but doesn’t register Brendan Rodgers at all, not even in the rankings factoring in BA. He was generally given a higher ceiling than either Swanson or the Breg Man when that draft was happening. I’m less complaining about his absence and more just surprised.

jdbolickMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

But what it tells us probably has less to do with Rodgers than with your newest model. He’s a 19 year old running a .193 ISO and 132 wRC+ as a shortstop in Low-A. Isan Diaz has slightly better numbers at a similar age, while no other shortstop in Low-A even comes remotely close to those two. I’m a fan of KATOH, but you really need to scrap this version.

jdbolickMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Rodgers’ K% isn’t “iffy.” The only guy in A-ball who has a similar ISO and age with a lower K% is Francisco Mejia, and his ISO is BABIP-fueled. I also don’t know why you would have Diaz or especially Rodgers grading out as below average defensively. That doesn’t fit the scouting reports I’ve read, particularly for Rodgers. Brendan Rodgers is not a “flawed Low-A” prospect, he’s a guy that is dramatically underrated by a very flawed prospect model.

Lunch AngleMember since 2016
9 years ago

Great stuff Chris! I’ve been waiting for the KATOH 100 to come out!

Does your model incorporate platoon splits for hitters? I’d think platoon splits would be indicative of future MLB performance–is it?

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Does it factor handedness at all? I would imagine marginal LHB prospects would underperform the WAR of marginal RHB prospects, on average, simply bc full-time starter status is more difficult to achieve as a left-handed batter.

mattMember since 2023
9 years ago

Urias!

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago

Can you break out offensive WAR and defensive WAR?

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Cool. I think it would be worth the effort, esp. since you’re using defensive skill as an input now.

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago

In backtesting, how much better was KATOH+ than KATOH?

rss0002
9 years ago

Chris, I think KATOH is fantastic and give you total props for undertaking this project that is brutally hard. When I look at KATOH projections they often seem low. There will be way more than 44 guys who are currently KATOH eligible who will contribute more than 1 WAR a season to their teams while under team control, yes? And way more than 9 who will offer 2?

I guess two questions if you don’t mind taking the time:

1. What percentage the WAR we might expect KATOH eligible players to put up in their team control years is accounted for in this list (i.e. solve for x; x=Total war in right hand column above/likely amount of WAR all current KATOH eligible prospects will put up in their team control years).
2. Do you think KATOH is more valuable as a prediction or comparison tool? I.e. should I focus on the fact that Dansby Swanson is only projected to be a 2 win player (which would make him basically a league average shortstop) or the fact that he is likely a top 10 future contributor during his team control years?

Thanks!

jdbolickMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

agree they “feel” low, but there is evidence that this distribution is about right for prospect lists. Jeff Zimmerman looked at old Baseball America lists and found that WAR = 2.25.x (BA Rank)^(-.45).

But isn’t the point of KATOH to identify more of those future major league contributors that are slipping through the cracks of traditional prospect lists? If you’re not identifying more future WAR than those lists, then you’re just trading players that the former misses with players that the latter misses.

jdbolickMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Gotcha. Thanks.

rss0002
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Hmm. So this suggests that if anything KATOH might be too optimistic on the whole?

Oh and if a team Kris Bryant or David prices a guy for 6 and 2/3 years of team control I assume KATOH doesn’t account for that, the projection assumes 6 years on the dot?

rss0002
9 years ago
Reply to  Chris Mitchell

Awesome. Thanks!

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago

Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but KATOH is still only using current-season stats, right?

Matthias
9 years ago

You may have covered this before, and if so, I’m sorry! Are there adjustments made for park/league effects in the model’s inputs?

This question is motivated by thinking about projecting players coming from the PCL, for example, known to be a big offensive booster.