Another Fine Addition to Their Collection: Mariners Acquire Brendan Donovan in Three-Team Swap

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The first thing Chaim Bloom did after taking over baseball operations in St. Louis was trade away everything that wasn’t nailed down. Sonny Gray? Thanks for your contributions, now go try to win a ring in Boston. Willson Contreras? Gone, and to the same team. Nolan Arenado? Thanks for the memories, enjoy the desert. With those trades sorted, he’s moved on to step two: prying up some of those aforementioned nails to make more deals. The most recent shoe to drop in the Cardinals retooling might be the biggest one, though. Brendan Donovan is now a Seattle Mariner, the key piece in a three-team trade that sends Ben Williamson to Tampa Bay and a heaping helping of prospects and draft picks to the Cardinals.

Donovan isn’t a household name like many of the best Cardinals of recent years, but that has far more to do with the team’s middling success of late than any lack of talent. His combination of versatility and offensive firepower calls to mind Ben Zobrist, and unlike almost every other flexible defender who gets compared to Zobrist, this one actually makes sense. Zobrist ran a 121 wRC+ during his seven-year peak. Donovan’s career mark is 119, the same as his 2025 total. He’s under team control for two more years at a reasonable rate, too: $5.8 million this year, with his last trip through arbitration set for 2027.

“A plus bat who can play defense everywhere” generally isn’t a good title to have applied to you. That’s because most of the hitters who receive that label either aren’t plus bats, don’t play good defense, or both. But as I mentioned, that’s not Donovan, and we might as well examine each of those two skills, as he’s the entire reason this trade happened, the best player going to any of the three clubs by a mile.

On offense, Donovan plays like a rough approximation of Steven Kwan. His standout skill is the kind of batting eye/contact combo you’d draw up in a lab. If you throw him something outside of the strike zone, he’s probably not going to swing at it. He chased just 25% of the bad pitches he saw in 2025, a 70th-percentile mark league wide and coincidentally the worst mark of his career. When he did swing, he made contact at a 95th-percentile clip, with a swinging strike rate less than half the big league average. That means that he takes a fair number of walks even though pitchers have no interest in giving him a free pass.

Like I said, that’s basically Steven Kwan. The difference is that Donovan swings the bat six ticks faster on average. He posts league average exit velocities thanks to a respectably fast bat and an absolute mountain of bat control, with his squared-up rate in the 96th percentile. Let’s put it this way: Donovan has a career 42.4% hard-hit rate. Kwan has a career rate of 20%, while Luis Arraez checks in at 26%. That combination means that Donovan’s line drives skip past outfielders and to the wall a lot more frequently than his less-powerful brethren. His career .130 ISO isn’t exactly gaudy – the league average hovers around .160 – but it’s spectacular in the context of the rest of his offensive skills.

Even better for the Mariners, Donovan looks to me like a solid fit for their park. T-Mobile is brutal for hitters, but it’s less punishing for lefties, particularly lefties who get a lot of value from singles and doubles. It’s not even so cavernous that he can’t hit homers there; Busch Stadium is tougher for lefty home run hitters. The biggest thing that makes T-Mobile a pitcher’s park is how much more frequently hitters strike out there. I truly can’t tell you exactly why that is — theories abound — but knowing that’s the problem, I don’t hate a guy who just doesn’t strike out as a solution.

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Hitting somewhere near the top of the order, Donovan is going to put opponents in a bind. He gets on base a ton. He hits for a high enough average, and does enough damage, that just lobbing the ball down the middle isn’t a great counter. With at least one of Cal Raleigh or Julio Rodríguez presumably lurking behind him, letting him reach base is going to feel very bad. We’re projecting him as the fourth-best Mariners hitter, behind those two and Josh Naylor, but I’ll go ahead and call it now: Donovan is going to be the hitter that pitchers are most annoyed to face. Snap off three perfect sliders against Raleigh or Rodríguez, and you can probably get them out. Snap off three perfect sliders against Donovan, and it’s probably a 2-1 count.

While Donovan’s offensive upside is obvious, his defensive value is more nebulous. Yes, he won a Gold Glove in 2022, but it was the utility Gold Glove that seems to sometimes just reward guys who play multiple positions, rather than guys who play multiple positions well. He’s played more second base than any other position in the majors, and he’s roughly average there: -5 DRS, +1 FRV. He’s been good in a small sample at third, bad in a small sample at first, and “wait, what why are you even trying this?” in an even smaller sample at short.

His second-most-frequent position isn’t any of those infield spots, but left field. I think he’s an adequate outfield defender, though our models are mixed: DRS thinks he’s been two runs above average in his 1,450 innings, while Statcast’s FRV thinks he’s been five runs below average. As far as I’m concerned, I wouldn’t want to play him out there but wouldn’t feel awful if I had to. In fact, that just about describes Donovan everywhere on the diamond: remarkably competent.

In Seattle, that’s going to mean a heaping helping of third base to start out. We had Williamson atop the depth chart there before this trade, and not much behind him. Donovan is an easy substitution at the hot corner, but he can do more than that. Cole Young is coming into the year with the inside track on the second base job, but he also looked overmatched at the plate in his 77-game major league debut last year. J.P. Crawford’s fielding is headed south, and he’s more of an offensive contributor than a key fielder these days. That offense cratered in the second half last year, though, so the future looks uncertain. Top shortstop prospect Colt Emerson is knocking on the door, but we aren’t sure if he’ll stick at short long-term, and he’d be a better fit at third than at second.

In other words, the infield is a complicated combination of moving pieces, an intricate puzzle to be solved. What better way to handle that than with a guy who plays all over the place? No matter who the odd man out is, there’s probably some configuration involving Donovan that works. That’s great news for a Mariners team that had to play some dicey bats to make their infield defense work in 2025. They handed 684 plate appearances to the combination of Williamson, Dylan Moore, and Donovan Solano last year, and got an 80 wRC+ and meh defense in the aggregate for their trouble. That’s a Donovan-sized hole that would add something like three wins if filled with the genuine article.

To make that enormous upgrade, the Mariners sent the Cards two intriguing young prospects, Jurrangelo Cijntje and Tai Peete, as well as a Comp Round B pick. The headliner of the deal is Cijntje, a 2024 first round pick who is most notable for his switch-pitching. He has monster potential as a righty, sitting in the upper 90s with a nasty fastball and secondaries that flash very well at times. As a lefty, he’s more of a matchup guy; lower 90s, inconsistent shape on his secondaries, intermittent command problems. He’s a 22-year-old who is doing something that almost no one has ever done, so it’s hardly surprising that he’s still developing, but right now he looks like a righty starter plus a little novelty value. The Mariners were reportedly planning on using him as a righty to start spring training, and it wouldn’t shock me to see the same in St. Louis.

That’s an excellent addition to their stable of young pitching prospects, and I’d put him second on that list behind only Liam Doyle, the fifth pick in last year’s draft. Cijntje is a phenomenal athlete who has the capability to improve pretty much across the board, but he’s still a work in progress. As Brendan Gawlowski put it in Cijntje’s write-up for our recent Mariners prospect list, “Catch him on the right day and you might put a no. 2 grade on him. But he’s inconsistent, perhaps not unexpectedly given how many reps he’s lost. His velo can dip mid-outing, and… he’ll lose his release point and start spraying the ball everywhere but the target.” Despite his intermittent command, he racked up gaudy strikeout numbers in his first pro season by outstuffing people, to borrow Brendan’s phrase. If he doesn’t have the command to be a starter, he has the stuff to close as a righty, and then there’s still the whole switch-pitching thing. In other words, there’s a lot of variance in the future outcomes here.

Do I know how the Cardinals will use him? I don’t even have a clue. Seattle struggled with this exact question last year. While he’s clearly better as a righty, that still leaves a lot of options. Is he a righty starter plus a lefty reliever, but only one at a time? An ambidextrous closer? A righty starter who is his own LOOGY? A true switch-pitcher who wears a six-fingered glove to the mound and goes all Pat Venditte on guys? The most likely outcome is the boring one — a righty starter with minimal lefty pitching — but there’s a chance that he ends up being very fun. He’s a 50 FV prospect on The Board, and I like the odds of him developing a little bit better than that.

Peete was a first-rounder a year before Cijntje as a high schooler out of Georgia. He’s also a phenomenal athlete, with plus raw power, a strong arm, and easy plus speed. He took up center field as a professional and looked very good in the outfield in 2025. There’s just one problem: his bat control. Now, the hit tool is just one of the five tools, but it’s surely the most important one. Peete has struck out around 30% of the time, and he’s done that very consistently across multiple levels. As Brendan noted, it’s the scary kind of strikeout problem, too: a 44% whiff rate against breaking pitches, big non-competitive hacks at fastballs out of the zone, everything you can imagine. Back when I used to hunt for breakout prospect picks, I cared a lot about strikeouts at the lower levels. If you’re swinging and missing that often against 20-year-olds, the majors might be out of the question.

The counter to that is that data can lie. Sure, batters who strike out 30% of the time in A-ball usually don’t pan out. But those batters tend to be bad. I mean, obviously – they’re striking out a lot in the low minors. Teams draft lots of players who even they don’t think will reach the majors. They give a lot of playing time to long shots and development projects. Peete’s cohort of whiff-prone minor leaguers almost certainly looks nothing like him. He’s a tooled-out first rounder who might be able to contribute in the majors even if he never hits. It’s reasonable to give him a little grace here. Sure, most players like him don’t develop their offense enough to hit major league pitching, but if he does, the upside is enormous. We have him as a 40+ FV, but with huge error bars; there are detailed write-ups of both him and Cijntje on that aforementioned Mariners list.

Oh yeah! The Rays got in on this trade too, as they are wont to do. They sent Colton Ledbetter and a Comp Round B pick of their own to the Cardinals and got Williamson from Seattle in exchange. Let’s cover the St. Louis side first, just to get that out of the way. Ledbetter is a 24-year-old outfielder who will likely start 2026 in Double-A. Here’s Eric Longenhagen on the last player St. Louis is receiving:

After two underclass seasons at Samford, Ledbetter made a successful transition to the SEC with Mississippi State in 2023 and was Tampa’s second round pick. He hit for power at High-A Bowling Green (45 extra-base hits in 109 games, .484 SLG), but struck out at an alarming 28.3% clip. He cut his strikeout rate to 23.9% at Double-A Montgomery in 2025, but lost the sexy power (just seven homers, .378 SLG), partially due to the hitting environment of the Southern League. Ledbetter is going to swing underneath a lot of fastballs and be a below-average contact hitter in the big leagues, but he has extra-base power to all fields against pitches in the bottom two thirds of the zone. It’s not huge raw power, more average, but Ledbetter has feel for getting underneath the baseball and is going to spray a lot of doubles.

Though he’s played some center field, he’s not speedy enough to be a team’s primary center fielder and should play in the corners (mostly right field). There are a lot of flawed part-time outfielders with similar strikeout issues, but who have more power than Ledbetter (a relatively maxed out 24-year-old) has or is apt to have. So I consider him a lesser, 1-ish WAR version of a platoon outfielder, a 40-FV prospect. He’ll be competing for a 40-man spot throughout 2026.

A Comp Round B comes between the second and third rounds of the draft, with the Cardinals slated to receive picks 68 and 72. The slot value around there is about $1.25 million, and that makes it a valuable trade commodity, whether the Cards are looking to increase the size of their draft pool by taking someone underslot there and splashing the money elsewhere, or just plan to draft the best player available. The underslot plan gets a lot better with two of these picks – an extra $2 million and change is a meaningful amount of overslot money to offer. Comp Round B picks from recent years have turned into 40/40+ FV players on average, so that’s a decent rule of thumb if you’re trying to convert picks into prospect terms you’re more used to, but I think the value is higher than that. They’re a nice addition to the trade, and I’d value either pretty close to where I value Peete, but clearly below Cijntje.

Williamson’s inclusion in the deal makes a lot of sense for the Rays as they try to patch together a strange combination of infielders. He looks to me like an elite defensive third baseman, and our prospect team and DRS concur. He’s mainly played third as a professional, but I think that’s because the Mariners had a few options blocking him at second, and the Rays have historically been very open to moving defenders around the infield.

That’s good for a few reasons. First, the obvious place they can use Williamson is as a platoon partner for fellow recent three-team-trade acquisition Gavin Lux. Lux is a mediocre defensive second baseman with enormous platoon splits. Williamson isn’t a good hitter, but Lux has a career 54 wRC+ against lefties. Williamson’s bat would be an upgrade on that, and his glove would be a huge help too.

Second, there’s at least some chance that the Rays are getting out of the Taylor Walls business. Walls makes me question my sanity every year, and I bet the Rays feel similar confusion at times. He’s a plus defender, but in a way that Statcast’s defensive metrics just don’t buy. On the other hand, his +17 defense at short in only 720 innings (DRS’ estimate) isn’t credible either. Baseball Prospectus’ RDA has him somewhere in the middle, and that seems reasonable to me, but make no mistake, this is a tricky defensive evaluation.

On the other hand, the offensive evaluation is easy: He stinks. Walls has a career 70 wRC+, a career-high mark of 84, and a career .195/.286/.298 slash line if you’re not a big wRC+ fan. In other words, he’s an offensive black hole. At age 29, there’s not a lot of hope that he’s going to improve. His walk rate plummeted in 2025 when pitchers realized he has a career .104 ISO and started flooding the zone; you can imagine things tilting even further from here. In other words, a backup plan seems wise. Now, the long-term backup plan isn’t even really a backup, it’s top prospect Carson Williams. He had a rough 2025, though, and his 40% strikeout rate in a 100-plate appearance cup of coffee means that the Rays probably shouldn’t count on him breaking out early in 2026. Williamson might not have much professional experience at shortstop, but I’m pretty sure Tampa Bay will at least try him there.

I’m probably singing Williamson’s praises a little too much here. Like Walls, there’s a decent chance that he can’t hit major league pitching for long. If you think Walls didn’t hit for much power last year, wait until I tell you about Williamson’s .058 ISO and one homer in 295 plate appearances. But he’s a nice rotational infielder, and Tampa Bay loves its nice rotational infielders. I don’t think this is the same kind of coup for the Rays that the Lux deal was, but I appreciate what they’re doing here by shaping their roster in the direction they want by stepping in as a middleman in the trade to make one team’s return (St. Louis’, in this case) match up more closely with its heart’s desire.

Speaking of what the Cardinals most desire, it’s time for some trade grades. The Rays get a B- from me, which works out. I think of their organization as a machine for turning slightly positive EV decisions into big edges, basically aiming for as many B- deals as possible. Small edges are only small if they don’t compound. This fits pretty much perfectly into their strategy – but since it affects their franchise meaningfully less than the two other teams in the trade, they get only a short paragraph.

The Cardinals look like they’re not going to stop until the major league roster is devoid of contributors who are approaching free agency. Donovan was the prize of their hoard of trade chips, and they opted for a return that’s quantity over quality but has a clear headliner. Cijntje is risky but he has a huge ceiling, the exact kind of pitcher the Cardinals seem to be aiming for as they rebuild their farm system. Peete and Ledbetter are more in the dart throw vein, but as I love mentioning in these trade evaluations, the best way to be good at dart throws is by throwing a lot of darts. Two Comp Round B picks mean that the Cards are going to have a ton of draft flexibility; while they draft 13th this year, they could feasibly try to float someone from the top five with all the extra bonus money they can offer thanks to their expanded pool. Add it all up, and I think that the Cardinals got fair value for Donovan – my surplus value model has them coming out ahead, but that’s pretty much always the case when you trade the best player in a deal that features five players and two draft picks.

The Mariners, meanwhile, have pulled off a nifty little renovation. Between Naylor and Donovan, they’ve made their offense a lot OBP-heavier than it had been, and stacking OBP is very valuable when you already have a good offense. Cijntje was a strange fit on a team with elite starters already; Donovan is going to be phenomenally more useful to them. Williamson is a valuable major leaguer, but he was getting squeezed by the prospects coming up behind him and Donovan’s arrival, so he was expendable. Peete is the sort of guy who gets moved to rebuilders from contenders: tooled up, inconsistent, and probably in need a lot of playing time to figure out what’s there. It’s a classic case where a dime and four nickels are less useful to the Mariners than a quarter. You can’t lean in this direction too frequently, but I think that this was an excellent time for Seattle to use minor leaguers who weren’t in the team’s immediate plans to chase short-term improvement.

So that’s the deal. The Rays get some needed insurance on the infield. The Cardinals begin the part of their rebuild where they take the roster down to the studs, all while hoping Cijntje’s upside will raise the ceiling. And the Mariners? They reinforce the top of their lineup with Donovan, who our own Davy Andrews has compared to a breakfast nook. Not that I’m sure the nickname will stick.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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jdbolickMember since 2024
5 months ago

I love that so many teams are going for it, but I’m mystified by one who isn’t. What in the world are the Red Sox doing? They have the weakest infield in the A.L. East, and that’s even if Trevor Story can stay healthy again, which he almost certainly won’t. You couldn’t have dreamed up a better platoon partner for Romy Gonzalez than Donovan and Boston has plenty of prospects to deal. Couple that with Suárez signing for a very reasonable amount that the Red Sox could have easily surpassed and I’m utterly flummoxed.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  jdbolick

I don’t blame the Red Sox for not wanting to pay this price, especially for a guy with platoon splits this massive. But it looks to me like the Red Sox had no plan B after Bregman signed with the Cubs. And with the issues you outlined that looks pretty bad.

JimmieFoxxalorianMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  jdbolick

I am equally confused and bewildered as to what Breslow’s plan is. The rotation is incredibly deep. The infield is incredibly weak. The lineup is heavily left-handed and in a notably worse state than it was last February. Even the bench is worse, there’s no more lefty-mashing Refsnyder, who had plenty of fans and was one of the veteran leaders in the clubhouse.

Beyond Roman Anthony, this is a fairly weak lineup in a loaded AL East, and if the renewed post-Breggy focus was to be stronger on defense, there remains a glaring hole at 2B, and Story’s defense declined substantially at SS last season, despite staying healthy and generally productive with the bat (outside of a May slump).

Mayer is being handed 3B. He looked good there on brief playing time at the position when Bregman was injured, but it’s not his natural position. Mayer had been quite injury prone so far in his young career, and at the plate he has struggled (in both the minors and majors) specifically with off speed pitches low in the zone.

There are far more questions than answers with this team, amid what seems to be an ironclad focus on staying below the next luxury tax tier no matter the on-field cost

Last edited 5 months ago by JimmieFoxxalorian
sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

I think Breslow must get fixated on specific targets and price and without considering the idea that it might not work out.

I wouldn’t be surprised if now he’s focused on trading for a specific player (Hoerner?) and the other team just isn’t interested.

Hoerner would be a good fit, but with all the weird parameters of his search it is going to end with something crazy like them trading Early and Tolle for Caleb Durbin. Has to be right handed, plays good defense at either second or third, ideally wouldn’t put them over the next luxury tax level…

dangledangleMember since 2024
5 months ago

To me it looks like an average lineup it honestly feels very St Louis to me where there is a lot of average hitters. Last year they ranked #7 in runs scored and they upgraded at 1st but subtracted at 3rd. Bregman is obviously the better player. They really needed a bat Eugenio Suarez would have been perfect. They are relying on Story staying healthy and some of their young guys to continue to improve but that’s a lot to ask. They need another bat I don’t get why they have assembled starting rotations for two teams. Ranger Suerez helps but they were already so deep and acquired so much already that the marginal gain is muted. I’m not knocking Ranger but if that was the money that they had to work with the greatest ROI would have been an infielder with a good bat.

I just don’t get the it.

I also need to add that they have been a very weird organization for a while. They did a whole infield defense is overrated approach under Bloom and boxed themselves in with players playing higher on the defensive spectrum than they were capable of especially whenever Story was/is hurt.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  jdbolick

I’d have tried to beat this offer also, but they probably would have had to trade Tolle if the Cardinals specifically wanted high upside pitching. I can see not wanting to do that. Donovan is probably a 1 win improvement.

Their IF isn’t terrible unless Story busts, which he certainly might.

They seem to be betting that the OF gets 12 WAR, IF/C/DH 12 WAR and the pitching dominates.

I’d try to rehabilitate Campbell in complex and then AAA as a 2B pretending that 2025 was just a bad dream.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Even if Story has consecutive healthy seasons for the first time in 7 years, Donovan’s projected as a clear 1.5 WAR improvement over both Mayer and Gonzalez.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
5 months ago

Yes I’d have tried to make it work. I’d try for Paredes. I can see not wanting to trade Tolle though

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

The main issue, which is not actually an issue, is that Breslow is focused on making the lineup less left-handed.

I find this to be a very strange fixation.

You’re concerned with the suboptimal allocation of resources to destroying right-handed pitching while remaining weaker to right-handed pitching?

But you are totally fine with the suboptimal allocation of not having enough infielders?

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

By “you” if you mean me I’m not OK with the IF as in it’s a weakness

If you mean Breslow I’d say he’s not willing to “lose” a trade even if he’s making the 2026 team worse. He isn’t exactly ok with weaknesses all over the IF and surplus OF and SP, but he can’t bring himself to make a deal where he gives up more total value to improve 2026 value

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

The latter–I’m rhetorically speaking to Breslow, since I don’t actually have his cell phone number.

Lanidrac
5 months ago

To be clear, it’s no secret why Donovan won that Gold Glove. It’s a huge flaw in the voting for the Utility Gold Glove that as far as I know still hasn’t been fixed:

That year, the two other finalists for the NL Utility Gold Glove Award, who were both clearly better fielders than Donovan, were Daulton Varsho, and Donovan’s teammate at the time, Tommy Edman. However, the latter two were also finalists for the Gold Glove at their respective most played positions. As such, they clearly had their votes split between those voters who thought they qualified as utility fielders and those who didn’t.

ItsALightBatMember since 2025
5 months ago

I’d be interested to see Williamson’s velocity ##s
from the hot corner along with a scouts impression. I think he can get to a lot of balls at short, but I’m not sure he can make the throws. His arm was A+ accurate last year, but so much of that seemed to be from picture perfect footwork and an organized full body throw. This isn’t a guy who can whip it across the diamond off one leg. As such, he seemed to play a shallow 3B, relying on quick hands to get balls with enough time to organize his feet and power thru the throw. A brilliant defender, no doubt, but one that might be calibrated towards a very specific variety of 3B.

jaysfan39Member
5 months ago
Reply to  ItsALightBat

By baseball savant arm strength board he would be slightly below average but stronger than a bunch of regular SS including JP Crawford, Swanson, Seager, Lindor, Betts, Bogaerts, Volpe, Turner & Story

ItsALightBatMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  jaysfan39

Not surprising, but those SS are making throws from all angles with varied opportunities to use their whole body. That has to bring down their arm strength metric, right? Williamson is apex-Emanski. Not a lot of time to pivot and throw through your lead arm on a slow 3-hooper to the 6 hole. As with all defensive metrics, I see the evidence and leave with more questions!

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  ItsALightBat

Savant’s measure uses the average of the top 5% of SS throws. So you’re generally looking at the plays where a dude really has to chuck it. You can be relatively successful without a top-notch arm, but you have to know when to really heave it — which is a how Lindor or Swanson (and before his shoulder gave out on him, Volpe) can succeed.

choinamanMember since 2026
5 months ago
Reply to  ItsALightBat

100% agree here. Astute observation.

aldenMember since 2019
5 months ago
Reply to  ItsALightBat

Williamson has all of 14 career minor league games at SS and 6 at 2B. I mostly agree with your analysis, he definitely doesn’t have the top-shelf arm utility you would like to see from a regular SS but from my visual evaluation of his play last season, he is very good at popping up from a dive and quickly getting to a good throwing platform. I think he could hack it at SS with enough reps, but undoubtedly he has honed his craft to 3B through his minor league career.

Graham LewisMember since 2019
5 months ago

I would kill to know what the Giants offered for Donovan. They certainly could have beat this offer from a value perspective, but I suspect the Cardinals really wanted high-minors high-upside pitching, and that’s one thing the Giants don’t have. Jacob Bresnahan would be the closest match, and I think I would have been okay with them pairing him with another 45+ FV prospect + Comp B pick in this deal.

sadhulkMember since 2020
5 months ago

There wasn’t a better fit for the Mariners who wouldn’t have required subtracting from their major league roster or cost an amount of money they were willing to spend. Glad they could get him without giving up a top prospect but it’s a good haul for the Cards.

I don’t get why the Rays were willing to give up a comp pick for Williamson. After trading Jose Cabellero for Everson Periera for Steven Wilson this feels like a worse fit than Cabby.

O'KieboomerMember since 2021
5 months ago
Reply to  sadhulk

Two words: league. minimum.

g4Member since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  O'Kieboomer

Man, it almost makes one wonder if the Rays view losing a Comp B pick that would cost them $1.2M on a less-than-likely future major leaguer as a fringe benefit. smdh

sadhulkMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

Which is why I’m confused why they wanted a 31 reliever who was bad until last year and a slap hitter who is unproven anywhere other than 3B instead of Caballero and the pick.

3cardmontyMember since 2025
5 months ago

Cole Young’s range at 2B looks rough, I’d like to see him give 3B a try (and have to compete with Emerson) and give 2B to Donovan

kingofdiamondsMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  3cardmonty

Young’s range might be bad, but his arm is for sure worse, he had 4th percentile arm strength by Statcast last year, the only non-first basemen who threw slower than Young last year were Ozzie Albies and Adael Amador.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  kingofdiamonds

This suggests that maybe Cole Young is not a viable major league player at second base.

And with his sub-.300 xwOBA that means he is probably not a good option for them at all.

3cardmontyMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  kingofdiamonds

Yikes, didn’t realize, just had a bad overall impression of his defense. Makes the decision to ship Williamson more interesting. Hopefully Emerson can play his way into a job because that seems like what they’re banking on.

ItsALightBatMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  3cardmonty

I’m more concerned with his availability than his actual defense. He was hampered with elbow issues in 2024, arm soreness all 2025, and then tore his meniscus while rehabbing the arm. Seems like he’s tried to play through all of it, but not well enough. Needs to get his body right.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

I understand why the Mariners like Donovan, and I would too. There are some serious platoon splits with him but he’s so good against right handed pitching and that’s who you face most of the time. He should be good at third base and is good enough at second to play there if needed.

But I cannot wrap my brain around the Mariners trading this much for Donovan when a player who was literally more valuable last year had to sign a pillow deal with the Reds. I know Jerry has been really obsessed with avoiding strikeouts in the last few years and Donovan does that well. I don’t necessarily think that preference should beat out value and overall performance.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

In fairness, ZiPS projects Donovan for 1 more WAR, Steamer projects him for 1.8 more WAR…and Donovan can play 2B and LF, with an extra year of team control and a far lower salary.

And Donovan’s crazy tOPS+ is more a function of how much he crushes righties – an 88 wRC+ with scratch 2B/3B defense and baserunning is a 1.5 WAR player.

kingofdiamondsMember since 2025
5 months ago

Suarez is also 5 years older and has the sort of profile that looks like it could fall apart at any moment (and wasn’t very good for the Mariners after they traded for him last year), while Donovan seems like a much safer bet.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  kingofdiamonds

Ding ding ding!

Younger, more versatile…and the price difference can’t be written off, with this ownership.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

I don’t think that first 75 PAs in the majors left handed pitchers had any idea how to attack him, and without 2022 he is pretty close to platoon territory.

The ideal situation for him is having a platoon partner at third base but also serving as a second baseman when absolutely needed but since their options for platooning are Ryan Bliss and Leo Rivas I am going to say that is not happening.

compucles
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Why the focus on 3B? Part of Donovan’s appeal is that he also plays decent defense at 2B, LF, RF, or 1B, as well as being playable at SS. At 2B especially, he’s just about as good defensively as he is at 3B.

The Mariners in particular can also use him at 2B or LF depending on how their other players perform. It won’t be just “when absolutely needed” except at shortstop.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  compucles

He’s probably a better defender at third base. He is competent at second, and that is a bonus. But he can’t play two positions at one time!

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

But whichever of Emerson, Young, and Arroyo work out, he has a clear path to playing time over the next two years – even with a Crawford rebound.

SculpinMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

their options for platooning are Ryan Bliss and Leo Rivas I am going to say that is not happening.”

Why not? I asked this question on a different thread and got a few downvotes for my troubles: do you really believe in WAR? Do you or any of us really believe that Jose Caballero (1 yr, $2M) is as valuable a player as Pete Alonso (5 yr, $150M), since they both project for about 3 WAR in a full season with Alonso needing to hit 40+ homers to get there and Caballero only needing to keep playing excellent defense and stealing tons of bases? I’ll admit this comparison makes me a little queasy and they are of course from opposite ends of the how-do-they-get-to-WAR distribution.

Leo Rivas produced 0.8 WAR in 111 plate appearances last year, and while he did have a WRC+ of 121 and may not sustain that, he gets to most of it the same way as Caballero, with plus defense and plus baserunning.

Rivas is a switch hitter who does most of his damage against lefties. If the line-up was chosen today, Donovan platooning with Rivas is clearly the best option.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Sculpin

Looks like Rivas’s career splits are 117 wRC+ vs right handed pitching and 91 wRC+ against left-handed pitching. I think his likely performance versus RHP and LHP is totally up in the air.

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SculpinMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I failed to look at his career splits, your point is well taken.

I will humbly present this as a small sample size, “something clicked last year” argument knowing full well how much variance I am swallowing.

Could Rivas be the RH platoon guy, and anyway, just how different are Rivas and Donovan?

Rivas had an inauspicious start against MLB pitching in 86 PAs in 2024, producing 0.1 WAR. He had a nice 11.6% walk rate and an 89 wRC+ but also a 28% SO and an .041 ISO.

This is where the something clicks. He took off in 2025, demolishing AAA pitching over 299 PAs with a stupefying 21/20 W/SO, .188 ISO, .471 OBP, and .155 wRC+. He hit 10 homers. He got called up.

Under the hood, his 111 PA 2025 MLB stint looked a lot more like those video game AAA numbers than his MLB 2024 ones. His W/SO remained ridiculous at 18/22, he pulled his ISO up to .089, his wRC+ to 121, and his OBP to .389. He hit 2 homers.

On the Mariners roster, he has either the best or the second-best bat control of any of the hitters, only occasionally surpassed by JP when he is on a roll. With all his walks, he is the only Mariner who will intentionally lay off a pitch early in the count he suspects will be a strike, waiting for something he likes better. You can’t just throw it past him, he will lace it the other way.

On defense, he has graded out slightly negative for the obvious reason that he is a rookie filling in all across the diamond. He has very quick hands and feet and seems to be still getting better. He would have easily turned the two double plays in the ALCS that Polanco turned too slowly; that led to Polanco’s shuffle to DH with Canzone going to the bench and Rivas going to second. On the basepaths, he is a threat to steal 30 bases in a full season.

Under the hood, his splits as a righty facing a lefty were excellent in 2025. His W/SO was 12/17, suggesting a desire to swing more against lefties. He put up .306 average, .390 OBP, .751 OPS, and 125 wRC+.

I think Brendan Donovan is a good candidate to put up 3+ WAR over the full season, but I just don’t see that much light between him and Leo Rivas.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Sculpin

The 28 year old with 0.8 career WAR who outperformed his xwOBA by 45 points?

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Since when is a 50FV prospect and 40FV filler an overpay for two cheap seasons of a versatile 3WAR/600PA guy under 30?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  Mitchell Moore

I don’t think it’s an overpay. I think it’s fair. But I just don’t understand why they were so fixated on this specific guy (or avoiding Suarez) that they would ignore the massive difference in price.

ItsALightBatMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If I’m Geno, I take a 1yr deal in Cinn, but need the Mariners to give me 2-3yr. One can envision Geno hitting 35-40HR at GABP, perhaps be another deadline darling, and position himself for another round in FA. A summer at T-Mobile and the surface stats may not lead him to another bag. I think the Mariners were wise to pass and I’m glad Geno is going back to a place where he can mash.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  ItsALightBat

I would have just given him a 3 year deal. Or a deal like the one Polanco got.

In terms of one year deals, I agree with you in terms of the top-line results. He will definitely have better surface stats in Cincinnati, and teams are weird enough about not giving him a multi-year deal after he hit 49 homers.

But from the Mariners’ side I wouldn’t be concerned. At least not any more than the Reds are. He is 46th out of 139 players in wRC+ at Great American Ballpark between 2014 and 2025. He is 52nd out of 149 players in wRC+ at T-Mobile. And that’s with Suarez playing his age 23-29 seasons for the Reds and his ages 30-31 and part of his age 33 seasons in Seattle.

compucles
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

But would the Mariners have been willing to give him a 3-year deal at a similar (or even reasonably close) AAV that he got with the Reds? He probably settled a one-year deal, because no team including the Mariners was willing to give him a fair multi-year deal.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If I’m operating with Seattle’s constraints (and upcoming IF prospects), I don’t to pay Suarez $40-50m for his 34-36 years – especially when I have Naylor at 1B.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

Ah I think I see it now: “Operating with Seattle’s constraints”

Seattle ownership is such a bunch of chickens. They came how close to making it to the world series last year and they’re not going to even run it back?

darrenasuMember since 2025
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

As a long-suffering M’s fan…I hear you on the cash constraints. It’s infuriating.
But they have gotten as good a look at Geno as anyone the past few years…and I assume they saw his slowing bat speed, his age, his diminishing defense, and his boom or bust approach and figured they wanted to lengthen the line up in a way that kept the pressure on opposing defenses. Especially since they lost to a team in the ALCS that does exactly that…avoid striking out.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  darrenasu

I like this WAY better than paying Geno – Donovan’s versatility makes him exactly what they need.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yes, they’re awful.

Remember when the Yankees lost the ALCS in G7, cut payroll by $32m the next year…and then *didn’t sign* Harper or Machado after the reset?

It’s a vanishingly small list of owners for whom I’d slow down in a crosswalk.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

The only owners I can think of who aren’t awful are the Dodgers, Phillies, and Brewers. Every other team owner is somewhere in between aggravating to baseball fans and actively trying to destroy the world.

*Ones I wouldn’t know how to rate are the Braves, Blue Jays, and Padres

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Cohen might fall in the latter category, but at least he DOES want to win!

And yeah, RIP Peter Seidler

bookbookMember since 2024
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think the Mariners do not want to block Emerson or Young. Donovan being able to play 3b,2b, or OF means they can play him as much as they want and still let the kids take over as much of the spots as they can handle.

It’s secondary, but there is some logic in getting a good leadoff guy. Surrounding Cal and Julio with as much high-OBP talent as possible can help maximize their impact.

Jerry seemingly thought Geno was cooked two years ago. He brought him back to hit for a 91 OPS+ in 2025, and may have felt vindicated in his earlier impression.

compucles
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Even with the pillow deal, who says the Mariners were willing to outbid the Reds? Or maybe Suarez took somewhat less money and had some sort of other preference to pick the Reds over the Mariners? Once they were unable to sign Suarez, there weren’t any other good options left, which is likely why this trade went through so soon after the Suarez signing.

As for price, while Donovan cost a lot in prospects, he costs a lot less for the Major League payroll (along with an extra year of control). Maybe the Mariners were more willing to pay in prospects than they were in direct money for their upgrade?

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catmanwayne
5 months ago
Reply to  compucles

Suarez supposedly had an offer from the Pirates for more money but he turned it down. He really likes the Reds and hitting in GABP, he signed that extension with them so many moons ago and now that he finally got his first run at free agency he went back there to DH. I bet if he had a no-trade clause in his extension he would have never waived it.

sadhulkMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Suarez has barely cracked .700 OPS in almost 200 games in T-Mobile if you want to talk about performance. I also think there’s something to getting a steadier OBP driven bat to complement the streaky power of Raleigh, Rodríguez, and Arozarena.

He’s a fan favorite in Seattle and it would have been a lot of fun for him to come back but Donovan fit what was missing from the infield and the lineup.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  sadhulk

Yep – an ultra versatile metronome is *exactly* what the Ms needed.

silvertail34
5 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Are the splits that big? a 75w wrc is bad, but it was 90 last season against lefties. I just feel like there is notable overreaction here.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

I love this deal for the Cardinals. I thought they were going to have to hold Donovan and wait for a deal like this, but they pulled it off now. Peete and Ledbetter are kind of throw ins IMO, but Cijntje is a very good prospect and the Comp B picks give them a lot of flexibility even if they aren’t particularly valuable on their own.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

It’s very nice of the Rays to step in and help out their friends by sending out more value than they received. Really makes the trade work.

I had the exact same thought as Ben. The Rays think if you can play one infield position you can play the others, and they just don’t care that much about infield defense in general. They’re going to try and turn him into a second baseman or shortstop.

The problem is that Williamson just isn’t that good. I would also be interested in getting out of the Taylor Walls business but I have a hard time believing that this is the best they could do for that Comp B pick.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago

Kind of funny that the projected lineup at Roster Resource has an all left handed infield and all right handed outfield.

bubblesMember since 2024
5 months ago

What is the youngest MLB average age of an Opening Day lineup? Nootbaar likely won’t be ready Opening Day and he would be the oldest at 28. Beyond him, there is Pages and Burleson at 27. 3 23 year olds in the starting lineup

compucles
5 months ago
Reply to  bubbles

Come to think of it, if Nootbaar isn’t ready for Opening Day, who would be the starting LF? They may still sign a RH OF, but otherwise it’s not a good sign if they have to use both Walker and someone like Church in their Opening Day OF. The other option would be to play Burleson in LF, Weatherholt at 1B, and Saggese at 2B or 3B (with Gorman at the other one), but that’s not ideal, either.

shampain
5 months ago
Reply to  compucles

At Bloom’s presser today he mentioned they still want to acquire an OF, but also expect to use Saggese and Fermin there some (Fermin has MiLB experience there and profiles similarly to Donovan but from the right side). They also signed Nelson Velasquez as a platoon option (with Nootbaar or Church or even the just-acquired Ledbetter).

Josh Baez also might be ready at some point in-season, he destroyed AA last year after being promoted. Burleson can play there if Herrera needs to move to 1B.

It probably won’t be great but also probably can’t be worse than last year’s OF (which had 1 WAR cumulatively).

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 months ago
Reply to  compucles

If Church is going to be on the roster they might as well see what they have in him.

Baez is also on the 40-man, although he might not be ready by opening day (or ever). Exciting power though, he would be worth a shot at some point.

Don’t know what Grichuk’s plan for opening day is either.

BigDaddy
5 months ago

I enjoy a punny headline as much as the next reader, but don’t typically comment. It would be a grievous oversight to not commend the work here. Bravo.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
5 months ago

The Rays are a bit like that guy in college who hangs around listening to people’s plans in the dorm and then invites himself along.