August Fagerstrom FanGraphs Chat — 7/12/16
11:52 |
: here comes a baseball chat
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11:54 |
: chat soundtrack is Bryson Tiller – Trapsoul, which I’ve really been feeling the past couple days
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11:55 |
: if you’re not into the new wave of R&B stuff, I’ve also been revisiting Cold War Kids’ “Robbers & Cowards” which is excellent
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11:55 |
: Gonna let questions roll in for another few minutes and we’ll start at the top of the hour
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12:01 |
: Think Moncada debuts in ’17? What do you think his HR/SB combo will be? High SBs in the minors can be skewed.
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12:02 |
: Sure seems he’s on that track. Any HR/SB prediction from me at this time would be irresponsible, but the kid is gonna be good
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12:02 |
: Who do you think wins the 3 team ALE race?
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12:02 |
: Starting to lean off the Red Sox onto the Blue Jays
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12:03 |
: Indians’ biggest need at the deadline? Who fits best?
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12:03 |
: Hard to gauge how big they’re gonna go, but a weapon in the back of the pen probably makes the most sense. Melancon seemed real likely for a while there but now the Pirates may hold onto him. Arodys Vizcaino makes some sense
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12:04 |
: How excited should we be for the arrival of Andrew Benintendi? What type of player do you expect him to be?
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12:04 |
: Excited; a good one
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12:04 |
: Hi
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12:04 |
: this just reminded me I’ve started a chat without Bork!
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12:04 |
: oh no!
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12:04 |
: brb scrolling through the queue in search of Bork
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12:05 |
: oh no
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12:05 |
: no Bork
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12:05 |
: god, I hope he’s ok
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12:05 |
: Whats your opinion on the future career of hunter dozier
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12:05 |
: well I’ve heard of him now, so
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12:06 |
: Is Tyler Naquin better than we thought?
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12:06 |
: Starting to think that could be the case. Think I’ll be writing about this soon, in fact. I was not at all a believer, but, boy.
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12:07 |
: He’s pulling a Lindor, insofar as somehow showing power in the MLB that he never showed in the minors
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12:07 |
: What are you thoughts on Eloy Jimenez MLB ceiling? Player comp for him? Thnx
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12:08 |
: Eric Longenhagen chats on Mondays! He’s your guy for this. I’d never heard of Eloy Jimenez until a bunch of people on Twitter talked about him a couple days ago
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12:08 |
: This goes for pretty much all prospect questions, by the way.
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12:08 |
: The answer, almost always from me, will be “I don’t know” or “here’s what I read on a scouting report from someone who actually does know”
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12:08 |
: Thoughts on the D’backs closer situation ROS and beyond? Seems like Clippard will be the guy, but I’m wondering if they go with Hudson, instead, and leave Clippard in his more comfortable setup role.
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12:08 |
: I’d wager at least one of those guys still gets traded and it works itself out naturally
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12:10 |
: Are the Indians starting to regret signing Yan Gomes to a long term deal given his play the last two seasons? I know the deal is team friendly but Roberto Perez (the better catcher) might become expensive through arbitration and I have no faith that Gomes is ever going to turn it around thus becoming an albatross. Also, any chance the Indians are considering trading for Lucroy?
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12:10 |
: I doubt it
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12:10 |
: He’s still making just $2.5M this year
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12:10 |
: Even the Indians can stomach sending that down to AAA
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12:11 |
: $4.5M next year, never goes higher than $7M through 2019. Would be easily movable if they so desired
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12:11 |
: Plus, deals should never be evaluated like that in hindsight. It was a fantastic move at the time
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12:12 |
: Can’t call a contract an “albatross” when it never exceeds single-digits, IMO
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12:12 |
: The Lucroy thing makes a ton of sense but the Indians (and Kluber, especially) love Gomes, and should trust Perez as long as he’s healthy, and they’d have a lot of competition for Lucroy. I doubt it happens
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12:12 |
: Is this new Bud Norris for real or can we expect him to exit the LAD’s rotation soon after some folks get healthy?
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12:13 |
: If Kershaw, Maeda, Kazmir, Wood, and McCarthy are all healthy, have a hard time finding a spot for Norris
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12:13 |
: I’ve been a believer in the “pitchers can’t survive Coors” mantra. However, if you look back at their rotations for the past 10 years, of those that actually pitch more than 1/2 their games in Coors, there doesn’t appear to be a pattern that supports the mantra. It seems like they have simply been running bad pitchers out there. Agree or disagree?
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12:13 |
: Could argue that Coors hinders development
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12:14 |
: Or the Rockies have hindered development in the minor leagues overall
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12:14 |
: Maybe because of the impending Coors?
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12:14 |
: Would say it’s been a bit of both (Coors + actual lack of talented pitching)
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12:14 |
: The Astros quickly pulled the plug on Bregman at 3B in the minor leagues, yet will call him up soon to play 3B? Is that correct?
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12:14 |
: Wasn’t aware of the former
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12:15 |
: The latter was my belief
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12:15 |
: Is my belief?
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12:16 |
: Bryson Tiller makes music for people with 7 babymommas.
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12:16 |
: I don’t have any!
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12:16 |
: So he makes music for people with 0, too!
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12:16 |
: Would you rather be in the Batters Box facing Randy Johnson, or on the mound facing Giancarlo Stanton?
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12:16 |
: Mound, easily
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12:17 |
: Good article on the Cubs…Cubs starting pitching has had a “real” problem the last month. But they’ve also had a 18.9% HR/FB rate, including 30% in July. Some positive regression coming?
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12:17 |
: Sure, that’s not gonna keep up, none of it’s gonna keep up, but it’s still somewhat worrisome
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12:17 |
: The Arrieta zone% drop and BB% increase was most troubling to me
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12:19 |
: Is there any truth to the chatter that the Brewers would keep Lucroy if the high value they placed on him isn’t met in trade talks, or is this just typical trade posturing?
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12:19 |
: It’d be an upset, for sure
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12:20 |
: Given your Cubs article, what would you do if you were Cubs brass? Sounds like you mostly suggest hoping for organic improvements, other than getting a LHRP.
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12:20 |
: Would guess they’ll add at least one bullpen piece, and are likely pushing hard for Chapman/Miller
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12:20 |
: Can I have faith that after this year, or hopefully even better after the deadline, that White Sox fans will never have to watch Avi Garcia try to DH or hit in general? Or maybe the Sox still see him as the next Miguel Cabrera
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12:20 |
: It’s gotta be up after this yaer
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12:20 |
: I’ve seen many reasonable explanations for the rise in homers this year, but none provide any reason that is true of this year but not two years ago. What’s your take?
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12:21 |
: The quote at the end of my Jake Lamb piece from Monday is really interesting
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12:21 |
: Tewksbary and Pollock both insinuating that hitters across the league are changing their swings, swings that give them more power
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12:21 |
: The ball explanation still makes the most sense, but I found that quote fascinating
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12:21 |
: We have to consider Rich Hill an ‘ace’ at this point, right?
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12:21 |
: He’s a guy more than capable of consistently pitching like an ace
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12:22 |
: Ace is such a subjective term
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12:22 |
: Folks tend to prefer their aces to have multiple, consecutive 200-inning seasons, and Hill obviously is not that
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12:22 |
: Is Willson Contreras really that much of a problem as a catcher? Early framing stats have him as “average”, not good or bad. Am I missing something?
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12:23 |
: Familiarity is a huge part of the catcher-pitcher relationship
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12:23 |
: Being on the same page, knowing how a pitcher succeeds, when to throw which pitchers, where, how his sequences work best, etc.
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12:23 |
: And Contreras is relatively new to catching, too
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12:24 |
: I certainly wasn’t suggesting he’s ruined the pitching — he only catches three of the five starters
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12:24 |
: But it could be something
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12:24 |
: Someone’s gonna get hurt playing Pokémon.
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12:24 |
: I’m sure some folks already have
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12:25 |
: Do you love or hate the ASG?
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12:25 |
: I dont watch it
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12:25 |
: I really couldn’t care less about any of the ASB festivities
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12:26 |
: I don’t know how the Cubs upgrade their rotation–aren’t Hendricks / Hammel two of the very best #4 and #5?
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12:26 |
: Pretty much, though Hammel could be upgraded. Mentioned this in my piece today
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12:26 |
: The problem’s 100% been the rotation, but it sure doesn’t seem like the rotation *is* a problem, if that makes sense
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12:27 |
: Half way point of the season, who do you think survives each league and makes it to the W.S.?
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12:27 |
: I agree with the projections — the two best teams in each league, right now, look like the Cubs (still) and the Indians to me
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12:27 |
: Byron Buxton breaks out in : A) the second half B) 2017 or 2018 C) Never
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12:27 |
: Should probably look for any signs of life before a breakout
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12:27 |
: Saw Santana muffed a play at 1B…the return of Bro-hio???? I’m available.
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12:28 |
: actually not! I believe you recently took the year off to spend time with family
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12:28 |
: A CLE sportswriter said on the radio that Naquin is a trade chip at the deadline. Is there some merit to that thought or is this sportswriter overvaluing Naquin?
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12:28 |
: He was certainly a pre-season trade candidate. Now that he’s a Rookie of the Year candidate, it makes the former less likely
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12:29 |
: Jake Lamb as biggest All-Star snub?
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12:29 |
: or Crawford
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12:29 |
: what does it say about the state of these fangraph chats that the guys seem genuinely concerned when bork doesn’t say hello at the start
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12:29 |
: says I love Bork
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12:29 |
: He mentioned in chat he was becoming a father soon! Maybe that? Although cmon Bork…priorities.
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12:29 |
: maybe this is it!
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12:30 |
: What types of questions are you looking for in these chats? Is there any particular area that is a specialty/interest of yours which you would prefer to discuss?
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12:30 |
: Only ones that I routinely pass over are fantasy and prospect, because I don’t have enough information to answer either with any degree of certainty
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12:30 |
: any and all other baseball or life questions are welcome
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12:30 |
: Going to see Radiohead in NYC in two weeks. Would you prefer seats or floor tickets if given the option? Also, did you know Kyle Lohse is still pitching in the bigs? Is he the pitching equivalent to Willie Bloomquist?
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12:30 |
: Floor, always
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12:31 |
: when Radiohead played Bonnaroo in 2012, I got to the pit ~5 hours early and missed two shows I wanted to see at other stages to get front row for Radiohead
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12:31 |
: one of my better choices. Enjoy the NYC gig.
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12:32 |
: I’m eagerly awaiting the announcement of a date near me
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12:32 |
: Are Indians fans perplexed with Kipnis or do you just appreciate his solid value despite what type of hitter he is year to year?
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12:33 |
: He played through injury in 2014. Beside that, when he’s healthy, he’s pretty much a 110 wRC+ guy
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12:33 |
: Nice little player
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12:33 |
: Why are Lefty pitchers such a big deal, when the majority of people in the world are righties?
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12:33 |
: think you just answered your own question
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12:33 |
: What is Dan Vogelbachs value in a deal? Obviously he has more value to an AL team. But he’s not a centerpiece nor is he a throw in, right? What is his trade value
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12:33 |
: yeah, complementary piece
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12:34 |
: first basemen/DH never gonna have great trade value
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12:34 |
: If you had concerns about the Rangers right now, what would they be?
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12:34 |
: everyone that’s not a hitter or Cole Hamels, basically
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12:34 |
: What do the royals give up fo rich hill
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12:34 |
: not sure the Royals should be looking to buy, tbh
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12:35 |
Obviously their depth takes a hit, but would you shop them? |
12:35 |
: Right now? No, a World Series contender should not be looking to make their roster worse
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12:36 |
: Jeff constantly makes jokes regarding the boringness of the padres. Which MLB franchise do you constantly need to be reminded of its existence?
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12:36 |
: I need to constantly remind myself that the Orioles always win
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12:36 |
: So I’m 6′-6″, 240; good size and played D1 baseball. To hit for power, despite my size, I’d still describe my swing as max effort. Chris Davis looks like he’s flicking his wrists out there. Anyone else you can think of that looks like he’s putting less effort into crushing dingers?
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12:36 |
: Used to love this about Manny Ramirez
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12:36 |
: Gallo for Chapman/Miller. Who says no?
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12:37 |
: Chapman and Miller are insanely different trade commodities
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12:37 |
: Hey August: what are your thoughts on Dan Vogelbach? Guy sure can hit with great plate discipline. Do the Cubs let him rot in the minors as depth at 1B or does he get traded to an AL team where he becomes a DH?
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12:37 |
: He gets dealt
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12:38 |
: Do you think Rangers will actually go after Lucroy? They seem to have bigger needs (rotation, bullpen)
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12:39 |
: Could say that Lucroy could help those
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12:39 |
: What’s your thoughts on Jared Eickhoff?
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12:40 |
: Solid mid-rotation arm. Good, cheap guy for a rebuilding club
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12:40 |
: Hitters changing swings is believable, but is that really the sort of thing which could happen so suddenly and on such a widespread scale? It seemed to happen in the middle of last year, too, and a league-wide trend of hitters adjusting their swings all in the same way in midseason seems unlikely.
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12:41 |
: Right, this is what makes that theory tough
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12:41 |
: AND what makes the ball theory so easily explainable
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12:41 |
: Dave has in the past explained how lineup protection is a myth, but I still I’ll don’t quite understand. Can you explain the reasoning?
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12:42 |
: From what I understand, it does have an effect, in that the protected player draws some more walks. But there’s no evidence that shows anyone’s overall performance is affected. It’s just a different type of performance
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12:43 |
: Do you play fantasy baseball?
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12:43 |
: Played in one league my whole life, but I’ve started to lose interest the last couple years with baseball becoming my job
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12:44 |
: This is likely my last year
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12:45 |
: Is it crazy to think javier baez is better than addison russell
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12:45 |
: crazy is a little strong
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12:45 |
: but that’s not an opinion I’d share
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12:45 |
: Re: Bregman. Luhnow has said that he wanted his transition to hitting in AAA to be complete before he also added in having him play 3B there, hence why he’s been at SS the past couple weeks. The stated plan is to eventually (soon) get him substantial PT at 3B.
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12:46 |
: there you have it!
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12:46 |
: thanks, Pie
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12:46 |
: If a team of yous is facing a team of Giancarlos. What’s your strategy? And what’s your prediction for the final score?
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12:46 |
: my strategy is have a team full of Kershaws
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12:46 |
: Who will win AL rookie of the year and why is it Max Kepler?
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12:47 |
: right now it’s between Fulmer and Naquin
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12:47 |
: Mazara in the mix, too
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12:47 |
: Possibly even the favorite to take it in the second half
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12:47 |
: Not that Kepler doesnt have a chance, but he wouldnt be my pick at this juncture
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12:48 |
: AUGUST IM SORRY IM LATE IM IN DOCTOR WAITING ROOM WITH BORKWIFE RE: PREGNANCY
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12:48 |
: !!!
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12:48 |
: I wish we could have verified usernames on here so I’d know if this were the real Bork
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12:48 |
: The fact that he used “BORKWIFE” makes me think it is, though
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12:49 |
: And if so, god damn is that some dedication that I respect, Mr. Bork
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12:49 |
: Congrats on your potentially real child
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12:49 |
: Thoughts on Chris Sale and if he should go back to striking out 11 per 9 innings?
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12:50 |
: Yeah, I think if he can do that he probably should
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12:50 |
: What are the odds that Matt Harvey makes a complete recovery and returns to his former self in 2017?
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12:50 |
: Don’t love the history of pitchers with thoracic outlet syndrome
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12:50 |
: Do you like extra wild card spots? Seems like it makes it impossible to trade for anyone especially since of the few teams selling (braves) got spoiled by the dbacks this past offseason.
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12:50 |
: I do, yeah. Seems to bring more intensity to the end of the seaosn
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12:51 |
: when the fangraphs crew meets do you all stop, collaborate and listen?
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12:51 |
: we mostly drink
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12:51 |
: Can throwing “too hard” be a problem for pitchers? I see these guys getting hurt more often than finesse pitchers.
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12:51 |
: Pretty sure velocity is the biggest indicator of health risk for pitchers
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12:51 |
: Stanton seemed to make a mockery of the Derby last night. Does his power break the 20-80 scale Ala Hamilton speed?
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12:51 |
: no, it’s just an 80, and that’s why you almost never see 80’s
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12:52 |
: Do I miss another MVP this year because of the ineptitude surrounding me?
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12:52 |
: seems very possible :\
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12:52 |
: Is taking pitches a team strategy or is it up to each batter’s discretion?
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12:52 |
: Both, but certain teams seem to really stress it more than others
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12:52 |
: I mean, it’s always up to the batter to execute whatever he/his team want him to do
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12:53 |
: But, like, it was very apparent in the 2000’s that the Red Sox were preaching working the count. Was very apparent last year that the Rays were preaching early-count swings
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12:53 |
: Where have Sale’s strikeouts gone?
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12:53 | : Wrote about this in early May, though surely some things have changed since then: |
12:53 |
: Idea is the same, thogh
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12:53 |
: He made a conscious effort to pitch to contact this season
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12:54 |
: If Clayton Kershaw and Serena Williams had a baby, and Mike Trout and Ronda Rousey had a baby. And those babies grew up to have a baby together, would it become the greatest pitcher or Greatest position player of all time?
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12:54 |
: President
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12:54 |
: Who’s the biggest name Braves trade at the deadline? Markakis? Francoeur? Other than Teheran they don’t have much left to trade…
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12:54 |
: Vizcaino
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12:55 |
: Guys who played in the MLB – Scott Hatteberg, Rich Aurilia, Brian Lawrence, Scott Linebrink, Paul Lo Duca
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12:55 |
: Scott Linebrink!!!
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12:55 |
: great one
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12:55 |
: almost got through an entire chat without a “five recently-old baseball names” post
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12:55 |
: phew
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12:55 |
: Isn’t velocity also the single biggest indicator of success for pitchers?
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12:55 |
: a vicious cycle
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12:55 |
: What happened to MATT DAMON?
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12:55 |
: what the hell, man
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12:55 |
: all my chat regulars dipping out on me this week
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12:56 |
: Mazara’s batting stance bugs me. No question. Just a statement of opinion.
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12:56 |
: nothing worse than a player you want to enjoy having an aesthetically displeasing stance/delivery
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12:56 |
: Its all star week, they are on break.
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12:56 |
: good point
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12:56 |
: MATT. DAMON.
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12:56 |
: HEYYO
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12:57 |
: alright, that was a nice little stretch to end things
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12:57 |
: thanks for chatting, everyone
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12:57 |
: if you’re someone who enjoys the All-Star Game, well, enjoy the All-Star Game
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12:57 |
: Goodbye, friend!
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12:57 |
: bye, Bork!
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12:57 |
: good luck with the BORKFAMILY
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August used to cover the Indians for MLB and ohio.com, but now he's here and thinks writing these in the third person is weird. So you can reach me on Twitter @AugustFG_ or e-mail at august.fagerstrom@fangraphs.com.
cmon bregmannn haha