Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 1/25/21
2:01 |
: Hey everyone, happy Monday
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2:01 |
: Seems like we’re back into the ‘no big signings’ portion of the offseason for a bit now that Springer has signed, but there are plenty of minor things going on
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2:02 |
: And let’s be honest, you’re reading a chat about baseball in the middle of January, minor things are probably something you’re interested in
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2:02 |
: So let’s chat!
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2:02 |
: Why don’t the Rockies rebuild?
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2:02 |
: Really good question that I don’ know the answer to
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2:02 |
: Last year they thought (or at least Dick Monfort thought) they’d win 94 games!
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2:03 |
: It could be that they just disagree with the premise that they need to rebuild
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2:03 |
: Over/Under 83 wins for NL Central Division winner in 2021
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2:03 |
: Over
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2:03 |
: Even though I might not project any of the teams higher than that, someone will spike it
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2:03 |
: At 88 I’m not sure which way I’d go
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2:03 |
: So Brad Hand got himself a 15% raise (1 m buyout, 10.5 contract) because teams were trying to be cheap and galaxy brain their way through the off-season. Do any front offices take a lesson from this? Maybe just … get the good player when he’s available?
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2:04 |
: Not really clear. He got himself a 15% raise, but teams got some information too
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2:04 |
: They got to see what players signed for over 1.5 months
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2:04 |
: As it turns out, signings are mostly beating expectations
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2:04 |
: I think a lot of front offices will convince themselves they had a good process/bad outcome situation here
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2:05 |
: But overall, I agree with you that teams are a little too cute about trying to grab little edges
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2:05 |
: Good Day Ben. I know the Padres Signed Kim Ha-Seong for just Four years but do they control him through arbitration for 2 aditional years after that contract is up just like any first year player?
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2:05 |
: I haven’t looked at Kim’s contract specifically, but contracts can include a clause that requires teams to relinquish a player’s rights and let them elect free agency after the contract is over
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2:06 |
: Look at Miles Mikolas for a good example
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2:06 |
: He technically only has 4 years of service time but he would have hit free agency after his first 2-year deal with the Cards
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2:06 |
: Imagine Marlins get Benintendi and Phillies bring back Realmuto. Is there a single team in the NL East that doesn’t go over .500 in that scenario?
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2:06 |
: Yes, the Marlins probably
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2:07 |
: It’s really hard for every team to go above .500 even if they’re all good
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2:07 |
: But also, are the Marlins THAT good?
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2:07 |
: Do you think any of these 3 players will have bounce back year (ie. All Star caliber numbers)…Cody Bellinger, Gleyber Torres, Shohei Ohtani?
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2:07 |
: Bellinger
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2:08 |
: Also I’d believe either of the other two, I’m just most confident in Bellinger
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2:08 |
: As the best defender of the group, he has the lowest bar to putting up All Star level numbers
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2:08 |
: As a bonus, he’s the best hitter in the group
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2:08 |
: I have taken over Fangraphs and will chat every day.
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2:09 |
: My robot replacement is causing trouble again apparently. I will not be chatting every ady!
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2:09 |
: Better question: Why don’t the Rockies fire the whole FO?
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2:09 |
: My guess is that they don’t think the front office is performing poorly
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2:09 |
: I’m pretty sure that if you asked the Rockies front office what they thought of their chances, privately
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2:09 |
: They’d be like ‘yeah look this team is not equipped to compete’
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2:10 |
: Like that Ottavino trade for the Sox? Doesn’t seem like much downside
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2:10 |
: Yeah I think it makes sense. Skeptical that the Red Sox are favorites to make the playoffs without another move, but they got a competent reliever for free in exchange for being friendly with the Yankees
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2:10 |
: What’s not to like about that?
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2:11 |
: Is Ottavino the clear closer in Boston, or does Cora stick with Barnes?
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2:11 |
: I’m not sure, to be honest. I think you’ll just have to wait and see what Cora tells beat writers
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2:11 |
: I’d be worried about Ottavino’s splits vs lefties if I were him
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2:12 |
: Although I suppose I’d be worried about Barnes’ enduring Barnesiness
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2:12 |
: Over/ under on HJ Ryu IPs this year?
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2:12 |
: ooooof
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2:12 |
: 150
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2:12 |
: Gotta hope for an over
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2:12 |
: Hey Ben, I was wondering why the Nats aren’t being linked to Wong/La Stella to allow a shift of Castro to a more utility role. Is Castro a legit starter any more? Or is the hope for Garcia to step up and split ABs?
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2:12 |
: I don’t think that Castro is a legit everyday starter anymore, personally
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2:13 |
: I mean, he could be
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2:13 |
: I’d just prefer not to have to count on it
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2:13 |
: I’m surprised they haven’t been linked to a 2B upgrade given that they’re abundant this year
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2:13 |
: This trade is scary for what it says about my elbow.
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2:13 |
: I’d think that if the Yankees didn’t have a 40-man crunch
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2:14 |
: They literally couldn’t announce the LeMahieu signing if they didn’t clear a roster spot
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2:14 |
: The fact that they got rid of salary AND a 40-man spot w hen those are two things they’ve said they need to move
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2:14 |
: Makes me think that it’s most likely just a non-baseball-talent thing
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2:14 |
: Does Benintendi even raise the Marlins win total?
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2:15 |
: I think so, not exactly sure what hte projections say but after Starling Marte I would take him over every Marlins outfielder
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2:15 |
: Thanks for chatting, Ben. If there’s no DH in the NL this year (looking likely per Heyman’s report), do you think the Mets should still go for a CF like JBJ, or stick with Dom, Nimmo, and Conforto as their every day OFs? Conforto is locked in regardless, and Dom’s bat has to stay in the lineup IMO. Maybe flip Nimmo for another starter?
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2:15 |
: Let’s do two things. First, what should the Mets do if there’s no DH?
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2:16 |
: I think they should just fake it with Nimmo
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2:16 |
: I’d be in for Mike Petriello’s eternal Bader/Nimmo swap too
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2:16 |
: If they could get fair return for Nimmo and sign JBJ, that’s fine, but Nimmo is really good
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2:16 |
: I know Mets fans are pretty divided on him for whatever reason
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2:17 |
: But at this point he’s played four straight years, and while injury prone, his worst OBP was .375
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2:17 |
: Patxi’s or Little Star for deep dish pizza in SF
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2:17 |
: Quick interlude: haven’t had Little Star deep dish, love its regular crust though
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2:17 |
: I live about 3 blocks from the one on Divis, so I’ve been there too often
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2:18 |
: Now, back to the DH thing
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2:18 |
: The Heyman thing, I’d totally ignore it
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2:18 |
: That’s the owners leaking a wild perspective on a story
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2:18 |
: We already know from what the owners and PA have said that DH and expanded playoffs aren’t valued in the same ballpark
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2:19 |
: It’s like if Heyman reported “The PA has elected not to accept a two dollar bill in exchange for a ten dollar bill. Looks like they might not be getting a two dollar bill.”
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2:19 |
: The owners are dying to expand the playoffs, and they’ll offer more than just the DH for it
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2:19 |
: They’re just playing the negotiation through the media game
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2:19 |
: If the Red Sox go on a long World Series drought after trading Mookie, then what should we call it? The “Curse of the Mookie” just does not have a very good ring to it.
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2:19 |
: I vote they call it the Mookie Monster
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2:20 |
: As in, the Mookie Monster ate the team’s chances this year
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2:20 |
: Is the Nats bullpen going to actually be good for once? I’m so sick and tired of the Nats just trading away good bullpen pieces and then ALSO having bad pen.
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2:20 |
: I think it will be acceptable
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2:20 |
: Not great, maybe
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2:20 |
: I’m down on Hand relative to consensus
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2:21 |
: I would hardly be surprised if he’s the 4th-best reliever for the Nats this year behind Harris, Suero, and Rainey in some order
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2:21 |
: But that’s an okay bullpen
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2:21 |
: Gonna be higher than the recent Nats versions, I think?
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2:21 |
: Are you expecting a bounce back year from Matt Olsen or was he truly exposed as not being able to hit the wicked bender?
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2:22 |
: Bounce back
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2:22 |
: His numbers weren’t even *that* awful last year under the hood, more of a ‘he didn’t bat enough times’ thing
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2:23 |
: His strikeout rate went up but so did his walk rate. Seems to me from a quick look like he maybe got too passive at the plate
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2:23 |
: That said, he was an above-average hitter despite a .227 BABIP
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2:24 |
: Not saying he’s going to replicate his short-season 2017 but I totally buy the projection systems (steamer and zips both think he’ll OBP around .340 and wRC+ above 120 next year)
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2:24 |
: Brad Hand will be Handy. Before the signing, the Nats had a bad Hand in the bullpen. He will have a Hand in improving in it. On the other Hand, he is expensive.
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2:24 |
: I was intrigued by the idea of writing the Brad Hand signing up
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2:24 |
: Just to lean RIIIIIIIGHT up to puns
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2:24 |
: then ignore them
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2:25 |
: How do you personally separate rooting for a player and feeling repulsed by their personal beliefs? I want to root for players on my favorite team but also find it hard to ignore their less than desirable personal opinions.
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2:25 |
: This is a wonderful question that I don’t have a satisfactory answer for
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2:26 |
: I think that you need to make up your own mind on this, but it’s worth being mindful of the fact that yeah, there are probably a lot of players, and certainly owners, whose personal beliefs you m ight disagree with
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2:27 |
: Following baseball while being conscientious about the bad things that the sport and the people involved in it do isn’t easy
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2:27 |
: The one thing that I think you should under no circumstances do is defend a bad actor’s bad actions b/c you like how they play baseball
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2:27 |
: You can say “this is a bad thing, but sports are fraught and I choose to root for the players on my team who are good on the field”
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2:27 |
: that’s fine
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2:27 |
: Even though that’s not how I feel
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2:28 |
: But don’t start defending people for one thing b/c you like another thing they do
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2:28 |
: On the subject of Hand getting a $500,000 raise: I don’t think it is that teams were trying to get cute, just that they thought the market would be weaker than it was, like most fans and writers. We saw it with the Astros giving Brantley 2/32 after not giving him the QO.
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2:28 |
: Yeah exactly. Teams thought Hand was worth less than the option given the deal they expected him to get
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2:28 |
: The market turned out stronger than expected, now his value has gone up
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2:28 |
: Good deal for him
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2:28 |
: So the Red Sox have actually done some hot-stoving! They don’t seem like a great team, but they’ve shown a willingness to spend money and be creative. What else do they need to get back to wild card level, while not messing up their win-later moves?
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2:29 |
: They should sign a starter
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2:29 |
: Not necessarily a good one
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2:29 |
: but just someone who can eat some innings for them
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2:29 |
: Tyler Anderson? sure
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2:30 |
: Any good SPs that might be surprisingly available? Flaherty?
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2:30 |
: Surprisingly rules out Castillo, I guess
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2:30 |
: So, this is definitely not my area of expertise
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2:30 |
: I don’t really have any inside dirt or anything
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2:32 |
: That said, I think that Brandon Woodruff might be available in the right deal. The Brewers don’t strike me as the kind of team who wants to tie up resources on long-term deals for starters, and if you’re going to deal him, this year is a good time
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2:32 |
: I don’ tihnk it’s likely, just more than 0%
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2:32 |
: hot take, I know
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2:32 |
: Last year’s exhibition season, Oracle Park closed the right field fence access which made for a different environment for hitters and pitchers. How does this factor in, if at all, to your projection for Giants players if they go back to keeping it open?
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2:33 |
: I’m not in charge of that, but I assume you just further weight down the 2020 results
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2:33 |
: Given that it’s hard to do that systematically, you probably just let it be. But given that it made the park play more hitter-ish, you can shade everyone’s productions down (in wOBA or ERA)
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2:34 |
: I know you’re not big on accumulating kitchen gadgets, but we got an immersion circulator for the holidays, and wow, sous vide steaks are delicious and idiot-proof. Also makes for an impossibly juicy chicken breast. Thinking salmon next since minimizing albumin (the icky white stuff) has been a thorn in my side forever.
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2:34 |
: I’ve learned from Top Chef that salmon is tricky to get right in sous vide. That said, that’s from a Top Chef from 2007 so maybe it’s gotten easier since then
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2:35 |
: My wife is on a big bread baking kick that has toned down the rest of our cooking
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2:36 |
: Okay so FG Depth Charts has Boston as the sixth best team. Am I missing something?
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2:37 |
: Hm, I see them at 10th-best, but I don’t know, we chop stuff up differently on different pages. I think what this reflects is how good we think the core of the team is, plus I think that Steamer is a smidge high on Alex Verdugo (just my opinion)
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2:38 |
: The thing is, though, they have enough great players that they can afford some holes and they’ll still be competitive
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2:38 |
: It’s a lot easier to have a good team when you start with Bogaerts and Devers
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2:38 |
: We also have Sale pitching 100 innings, so if you’re lower there, that will also hurt
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2:39 |
: Soooo….no DH? For one, I am tired of the rules being used as political footballs in CBA talks. Hard for a GM to properly construct a roster without knowing the rules of the game, I would think.
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2:39 |
: It’s indeed very frustrating. I hope they just do it
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2:39 |
: I used sous vide for steaks for probably a year and a half but I have entirely converted to reverse searing my steaks. Season the place in a 200 to 225 oven until internal temp is roughly 10 degrees below your desired temp then sear in the hottest you can possibly get a cast iron for about 90 seconds (less if the cut is thin) a side. Feel free to butter baste while searing
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2:39 |
: Iiiiinteresting
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2:39 |
: I’m not much of a steak person, but that style makes sense
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2:40 |
: Also, instant read thermometers — if you’re cooking, buy one
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2:40 |
: They’re so great
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2:40 |
: Brad Hand watching Captain Holt yell “Vindication!” on repeat for days.
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2:40 |
: With their newfound cap space, which pieces do you think the Yankees will go after? I assume they’ll bring back gardner with something like 1/6, maybe with a team option, and they want/need bullpen help. Think they go after Rosenthal, or maybe a cheaper option like Kintzler, or perhaps an upgrade somewhere else for depth?
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2:40 |
: I’m thinking just Gardner. Spreading it out over many players feels like a weird thing given their 40 man situation
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2:40 |
: I think they’ll audition various minor leaguers as relievers for hte first half of the season and make a trade if nothin works out
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2:41 |
: If the Mets really play JD Davis at 3B and Dom Smith in LF, opposing managers should start 9 RH hitters and tell them all to pull everything or you’re benched.
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2:41 |
: I think that’s too harsh to Smith
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2:41 |
: Probably appropriately harsh to Davis
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2:42 |
: Like, he’s definitely not a good left fielder
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2:42 |
: But he’s learning it on the fly and I think you can say with some conviction that he’s a better outfielder than Davis
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2:43 |
: Statcast doesn’t hate Davis’s defense at third but uh, I do
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2:43 |
: I’m not gonna even lie. I hate the 6-man rotation trend because this almost kills the 2 start week for fantasy baseball purposes. Tigers, Mariners, Angels – anyone else?
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2:43 |
: It sounds like the Padres are gonna goof around with it here and there
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2:43 |
: I think the Red Sox will when Sale comes back
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2:43 |
: This just in: Its Monday
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2:44 |
: Disastrous news
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2:44 |
: Why is everyone projecting that Enrique Hernandez will play 2B in Boston? He’s a capable CF, a much more demanding position, and there are many more 2B on the market (Villar, Miller, Santana, Hernandez, Wong, Schoop, La Stella, Cabrera, Lowrie, Kipnis, et al.)
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2:44 |
: Eh, just depends on who they sign. On their current roster, he’s a 2B
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2:45 |
: Well, he’s a super utility guy even then, b/c he’s also kind of their fourth outfielder
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2:45 |
: But yeah, he can play a competent CF, I’d argue
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2:46 |
: what do you think the end of the dodgers’ offseason ends up looking like — turner and/or semien and that’s it? that plus a reliever (rosenthal or ???)? something totally out of left field like getting another SP?
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2:46 |
: Turner/Semien plus another reclamation project pitcher
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2:46 |
: Rosenthal seems like maybe a fit
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2:46 |
: but someone like that
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2:46 |
: I’m leaning Turner over Semien though
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2:46 |
: Kolton Wong or Tommy La Stella? Both lefties, both on the wrong side of 30, both going to command basically the same contract. Which would you prefer?
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2:47 |
: I like Wong more. Maybe it’s my Cardinals homer-ism showing through but I think his floor is just way higher
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2:47 |
: And I’m not convinced his ceiling is any lower
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2:47 |
: what the NL central is doing should be criminal
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2:47 |
: Inclined to agree
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2:48 |
: It’s truly amazing how no one wants to jump to the front of the line
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2:48 |
: I think the general impression is that Sandy was always running the show, but after the Porter incident, it seemed like all the players the Mets were previously linked to (and supposedly ‘close’ – Hand, Springer, but also Hernandez) have signed elsewhere. Like I know its not in solidarity with Porter, but if one person is laying the groundwork on these deals and then just is no longer there, does that affect these negotiations that much?
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2:48 |
: I have to imagine it really varies from player to player
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2:48 |
: And depends on specific personal relationships
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2:49 |
: If your recruiting pitch has been heavy on ‘you’ll get along with the front office’ and light on ‘here’s a bag full of money you dope’
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2:49 |
: Well, that’s bad
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2:49 |
: How deep do you think the Cubs tear down is going to go? Baseless Hendricks/Bryant rumours are flying everywhere.
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2:49 |
: I don’t think that Hendricks will actually move
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2:50 |
: I think that they’re going to tear it down pretty hard in a year though
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2:50 |
: I think that they’ll struggle to get both fair return and palatable fan reaction for much more teardown this year
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2:51 |
: But I think their trend is towards bottoming out below 80 wins for a bit soon
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2:51 |
: If you had to rank all the divisions by how good they are off the top of your head, what would it be 1-6?
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2:52 |
: Sure, let’s just do this off the top of my head. NLW, ALE, NLE, ALC, ALW, NLC
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2:52 |
: Really unsure on the bottom 3 though
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2:52 |
: What do you make of the Ottovino trade? Seems like a great deal for the Red Sox considering their current team status.
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2:52 |
: Yeah, the Yankees wanted to hand someone Adam Ottavino and they were willing to pay for it
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2:53 |
: Sounds like something worth accepting
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2:53 |
: The correct answer is AL East, NL East………………………….who cares?
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2:53 |
: NLW is a good division? Two good teams and a hot mess below them makes a good division since when?
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2:54 |
: I think the DBacks are fine, but yeah, having the two best teams in the NL (and arguably in baseball) counts for a lot
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2:54 |
: This isn’t a binary ‘how many good teams are there’
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2:54 |
: Can the Nats sustain this stars and then whatever cheap FAs are on the market for much longer? Feels since Harper has left that has been the basic plan. Can they keep it up much longer if they keep spending this much every season?
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2:54 |
: It seems like it’s going to mostly work for a while
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2:54 |
: I think a bigger issue is that we dn’t really know Nats’ ownership’s willingness to hand out cash
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2:54 |
: We know they’re willing to guarantee cash
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2:54 |
: But a lot of their deferrals are still ongoing or coming up
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2:56 |
: The question would be better phrased as “best competition for the division title” which boils down to how many teams you like in the race.
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2:56 |
: Now that question
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2:56 |
: Might have NLC at the top lol
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2:56 |
: I think the NLC and NLE are the only divisions with 4 reasonably likely division winners
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2:56 |
: If the M’s sign Rosenthal and Eddie Rosario you think they’d be a legit sleeper pick for the division? Seems crazy that they’re keeping the budget so tight with the west so open right now.
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2:56 |
: Legit sleeper pick is a hard one to define
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2:57 |
: I don’t really think so, though
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2:57 |
: Their rotation is just not there
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2:58 |
: To the point where you can get away with a middling offense like theirs
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2:58 |
: I think if Evan White takes a huge step forward, Haniger plays a full year, and one of Moore/Long is an above average second baseman
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2:59 |
: Then you get to the point where you’re like, oh, this is interesting
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2:59 |
: But they don’t really have the length or star power in the rotation to where I’d like that offense to make the playoffs
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2:59 |
: I think they’re a year or two and a few starters away
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2:59 |
: I can’t buy the Phillies as a division title contender, so were you including the Miamis when you cited 4 contenders in the NL East?
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2:59 |
: I think the Phillies are a contender. Clearly a cut below the other 3 but at least in the mix
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2:59 |
: I suppose given that you could add ALE as well
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2:59 |
: I think the Red Sox are in a similar spot
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3:00 |
: But i agree with you, they’re the worst of that group
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3:00 |
: By a fair margin
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3:00 |
: Would you rather have Jameson Taillon or Garrett Richards in your 2021 rotation?
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3:00 |
: What’s your take on the Pirates’ return for Tailon? And are you taking the over or under on Depth Charts’ projected 4.44 FIP for Jamo?
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3:00 |
: Under
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3:00 |
: And I’d rather have Taillon
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3:01 |
: Not that I think he’s an All Star but I just have given up on Richards
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3:01 |
: I hope he proves me wrong!
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3:01 |
: But I’m just going to need to see him make 15 starts in a year before I’m projecting him to make it work
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3:02 |
: Not that Taillon is a paragon of health but he had three straight healthy-ish seasons at one point
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3:02 |
: Richards did from 2013-2015, but then he’s spent 5 years being broken
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3:02 |
: The luxury tax is effectively a salary cap now right? Yankees dumping a useful player and prospect is shameful for the sport.
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3:02 |
: If that were the most shameful thing baseball had done in the last month, I’d be so happy
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3:02 |
: But yeah
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3:02 |
: What a joke
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3:03 |
: Are the twins still the favorite in the AL Central. Or do they need more starters to hold of the White Sox? What FA should they target?
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3:03 |
: I’ll give it narrowly to the Sox, but it’s a two-team tossup
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3:03 |
: I think they should sign someone they’re familiar with
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3:04 |
: Jake Odorizzi
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3:04 |
: But I think they could also sign a bat and tuck them into LF or DH easily
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3:04 |
: Olney tweeting informed speculation that Mets & Jays may be in on Kris Bryant- if so, he’s not really worth that much in the way of prospect capital, is he? Given inconsistency, price, and 1 year of control?
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3:04 |
: Nah
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3:04 |
: It’ll be a cosmetic prospect basically
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3:05 |
: Someone the Cubs can say they got, when what they really got was salary relief
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3:05 |
: Say the Nats struggle and decide to blow it up at the deadline. Everyone besides Soto has to be on the table right? Would Strasburg/Corbin be moveable? Scherzer would get something. Turner too. Hand/Harris/Rainey/Suero Maybe? would there be enough of a return to justify a rebuild or just retool and hope for the best in 2022
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3:05 |
: I’d keep Robles, b/c I don’t expect his return to be commensurate with his skill
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3:05 |
: But if you can get a fair return, sure
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3:05 |
: I think Stras is probably not movable until we get more health info
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3:05 |
: I don’t honestly see the appeal of a teardown though
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3:06 |
: You have Juan Soto, just try to win a bunch of games right now
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3:06 |
: With only 1 full well above-average season, am I really an Ace worth $25-$30M per year for 4+ years? Or am I topping the market due to the lack of high-quality FA SP in this year’s class
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3:06 |
: Not to get too inside baseball, but I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about this exact question for a future article
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3:07 |
: I think that the reason Bauer is bein considred as more of an ace than his career averages would suggest is b/c he started using pine tar (or you know, some other sticky thing)
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3:07 |
: Which is something that most pitchers do
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3:07 |
: And was really good
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3:07 |
: So you have a prior…. Trevor Bauer doesn’t use sticky stuff and is an average pitcher
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3:07 |
: You have new info: Trevor Bauer sticked up and was great
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3:07 |
: And a hypothesis: sticky stuff improves pitching ability
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3:08 |
: You can think of those all together in your head and see Bauer as a top 20 pitcher
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3:08 |
: I think he’s being a little overrated but I also think you have meaningful new data to consider
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3:08 |
: Who plays the most games at 1B for MIN in 2021?
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3:08 |
: I’m gonna say Sano
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3:09 |
: But my runner up is Brad Miller
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3:09 |
: is corner defense overrated? I get C, 2B/SS, CF are super important on that side. My non-evidence based argument that a LF may get only a few balls hit to him per game, is the one or two balls they can’t get to compared to a better defender worth the trade off of a better bat?
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3:10 |
: Having a bad defender in a corner hurts less than putting one in an up-the-middle spot, specifically b/c of opportunity
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3:10 |
: Given that most defensive metrics don’t scale to opportunity, they’re aware of it only passively
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3:10 |
: I would argue that corner defense *reputation* is wildly overrated
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3:11 |
: And that the spread between the best and worst corner defenders is necessarily smaller
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3:11 |
: Due to fewer opportunities
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3:11 |
: I dunno if that’s a great answer, but I think you’re generally on the right track
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3:11 |
: Does that mean I have to admit I used sticky stuff in 2020 to teams during the interview process (to prove my 2020 is not a fluke)? I’ve been very careful about that claim in the past
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3:11 |
: I mean
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3:11 |
: I just don’t see how this is a thing
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3:11 |
: Teams aren’t like ‘well he added 300 rpm of spin but I don’t know how, probably just a fluke unless he admits it’
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3:12 |
: Also, it’s not like he’s answering a subpeona that will be published forever
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3:12 |
: He can privately tell a team that and tell them it’s obviously off the record
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3:12 |
: If speculation were to be believed the mets and jays would be the only teams signing players at all
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3:12 |
: That would be kind of fun, though
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3:12 |
: Two teams who should be flexing more financial muscle both doing it
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3:13 |
: Re: Defense being overrated- I know a run is a run but you seriously can not convince me that the difference between medium bad defense and good defense is worth the equal run difference in their batting skill. Maybe its because we can tangibly quantify batting, but I remain unconvinced that defense is really that important as long as you aren’t a dumpster fire.
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3:13 |
: Oh, it’s definitely not!
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3:14 |
: Here’s one way of thinking about it: the difference between the best and worst 3b last year per UZR was 13 runs
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3:14 |
: Arenado vs. Devers
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3:14 |
: (I wouldn’t necessarily buy Devers’s defense being that bad but that’s neither here nor there)
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3:15 |
: The difference between the best and worst offensive value for full-time 3B last year was 35 runs
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3:15 |
: roughly triple the difference
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3:15 |
: Also, offensive statistics are more reliable than defensive statistics for a similar sample size, so you hsould believe the gap on offense more
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3:16 |
: Hey Ben! Orioles fan dying for good news. There’s been rumors of a Santander to Miami trade, what could they conceivably get back? Trevor Rogers at best?
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3:16 |
: That seems reasonable, and I don’t think that’s a terrible outcome
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3:16 |
: I share your frustration, btw. My mom is a huge O’s fan and she is eternally hopeful and eternally saddened
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3:17 |
: I would argue the Jays have been flexing financial muscle for years now, using money during the down years to snag prospects like teoscar and mcguire, cutting bait on Tulo when he still had 50 million owed to make room for Bichette while teams like baltimore hold out for a crumb of Chris davis, and now it’s kicking into higher gear with the Springer signing.
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3:17 |
: There was never any sense to Shapiro leaving Cleveland if he didn’t have certainty that ownership was willing to spend.
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3:17 |
: Yeah, this is a better way to put it I suppose
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3:17 |
: The jays have never been shy about money
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3:17 |
: They’re just becoming even less shy
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3:17 |
: The Tulo move is probably not cited enough. It wasn’t really a financial decision, but a willingness to accept sunk costs decision
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3:17 |
: But it was excellent
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3:17 |
: Now that Hernandez went to Boston, do I have a starting role in LA?
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3:18 |
: The Dodgers are going to try really hard to give you one
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3:18 |
: Did the Pirates get more for Taillon than Musgrove? Which would you rather have of the two?
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3:18 |
: I think they got about the same
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3:18 |
: I would rather have Musgrove
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3:18 |
: So, I like the Taillon trade more for them I suppose
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3:18 |
: Is Ottavino another “couldn’t handle the bright lights of NY” guy, just another reliever subject to noisy year-to-year statlines, or is it just because it’s *really friggin’ hard* to control a pitch with that much break?
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3:18 |
: The second one
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3:19 |
: He gave up a .375 BABIP last year in 18 innings
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3:19 |
: gotta kinda ignore that, it’s 18 innings
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3:19 |
: There are red flags there, namely the diving swinging strike rate
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3:19 |
: And I do think he was miscast as a true elite reliever given the split issue
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3:20 |
: But I don’t see any reason to think anything other than ‘above average reliever’ here, and that’s not a bad outcome given what he has been over his career
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3:20 |
: That said, he’s 35 so
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3:20 |
: One arm twinge and gg
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3:20 |
: Have you heard anything about the new MASN controversy? (Cutting Pre/Post game shows for both Nats and O’s and other general budget cuts) Do you think this gives the Nats enough leeway to just leave this atrocious television deal and get a new TV deal that the O’s don’t screw them with?
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3:20 |
: I have been following it and what a mess
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3:21 |
: I don’t know the legal ramifications of the original MASN deal
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3:21 |
: So I can’t really opine on that
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3:21 |
: That said, this will surely put some pressure on the arrangement
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3:21 |
: am i being anxious for thinking the padres still don’t have enough sp depth? i don’t really have high hopes for any of the prospects to make a big step this year with the exception of morejon
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3:21 |
: Not really. They have a lot of depth 1-5 but not a lot 6-10
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3:21 |
: It’s a different kind of depth
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3:22 |
: And I think they could probably acquire some cheaply if they needed it
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3:22 |
: But the reinforcements aren’t amazing even though the highlights are great
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3:22 |
: I think they could do a Profar-esque thing with starters still
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3:22 |
: Yankees and Red Sox trade, now the know the end is near. what is the yankees plan for that $8M they saved?
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3:22 |
: I think they’ll laugh about how they don’t need to pay the CBT
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3:22 |
: And then also sign Brett Gardner
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3:23 |
: So, thanks for the Sagrada and Jaipur recommendations, everyone. Can you please stop recommending games for me? The pile of boxes is beginning to teeter, and we’re starting to lose our memory of rules for the games on the bottom of the pile.
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3:23 |
: This is a massive problem in the Clemens household
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3:23 |
: My mother-in-law got me Taverns of Tiefenthal for Christmas (a board game about drinking beer? amazing!)
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3:23 |
: And after we played it a few times and wanted to put it on the shelf…. we didn’t have the shelf space
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3:24 |
: The biggest problem with board game collecting is that you can’t stop
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3:24 |
: What does Ben Clemens register on the speed pitch at the ballpark?
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3:24 |
: —
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3:24 |
: probably
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3:24 |
: I have never had much of an arm
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3:25 |
: if you wanted a player comp for my college intramural softball league I’d be James Loney
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3:25 |
: scaled way down
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3:25 |
: BABIP-y first baseman
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3:25 |
: How much do you think Rosenthal will cost? Seems like he’d be a big upgrade in the Yankees pen. Maybe around what Yates got?
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3:25 |
: I think he’ll cost less than what Yates got
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3:26 |
: And yeah, I think he’ll be a bargain at that rate
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3:26 |
: But I don’ see the Yankees doing it
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3:26 |
: Do expanded playoffs benefit free agents? Wouldn’t a lower win threshold to get in incentivize the projected 75 win team to spend on FA more than under the current 10 team system?
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3:26 |
: Yeha but it would disincentivize the 80-win team from spending
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3:27 |
: I find it almost inconceivable that it would help unless teams started giving huge financial payouts to teams who made the playoffs
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3:27 |
: Okay, a few quick hitters and then I’m out of here
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3:27 |
: Both about baseball writing, as it turns out, and both probably from the same person
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3:27 |
: Out of curiosity do you read all the stuff published by the other writers at Fangraphs?
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3:28 |
: Depends on the day but mostly yes
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3:28 |
: I got into writing baout baseball b/c of how much I loved reading about baseball
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3:28 |
: So unless I’m just completely swamped with work, for sure
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3:28 |
: It’s also a great way to get ideas
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3:28 |
: Of all the non-fangraphs MLB writers, whose work do you like to read the most?
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3:29 |
: I’ll just quickly say that I read a lottttt of other baseball stuff and think that there are a ton of great writers out there doing interesting work
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3:29 |
: But favorite? I think it’s Tom Tango, b/c I admire his ability to frame questions so well
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3:30 |
: A Tango Tiger blog almost always means you’re in for a treat if you’re into that kind of thing, and it’s very much something I enjoy
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3:30 |
: On that note, I’m out of here
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3:30 |
: Have a great week, everyone, and I don’t know, some generic platitude
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3:30 |
: May all your days be good ones, bam, there
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Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Twitter @_Ben_Clemens.
RE: all teams in a division over .500
Checking history the most recent instance I found of all teams in the division being at .500 or better (already giving that bottom team a wins worth of leniency) was the 2005 NLE. Continued back to 2000 and found no others.