Billy Butler Could Become the Worst Runner Ever

While answering a question in my chat last Friday, I wound up navigating to Billy Butler’s player page, and then I casually noticed that since he debuted a decade ago, he’s been worth about -9 wins on the bases. In the moment, that didn’t seem like something that was going to stick in my mind, but, here we are. You’re going to get a whole article about this.

Look, everyone knows that Billy Butler isn’t much of a baserunner. Butler certainly knows, which is why he laughs and calls attention to himself whenever he does anything good out there. I’ve written about his baserunning before, and it’s hard to go back to this without feeling like I’m making fun. My intention isn’t to be cruel. It’s just, hey, this is a site where we talk about numbers, and some of his numbers are crazy. Butler built a career around his bat, and he has a lifetime 115 wRC+. That’s great. Very few people on planet Earth could do that over one month, much less 10 years. Yet, as Butler’s bat has provided positive value, his legs have given some of that back. He’s nearly the worst baserunner of all time.

Let’s start with something familiar. You probably know that we have a baserunning metric here, and while it goes back to only 2002, that’s at least 15 years of worthwhile information. I looked at every player who’s batted at least 2,500 times over the window, and then I calculated their baserunning values per 600 plate appearances. Here is the bottom of the list:

Worst Since 2002
Player BsR/600
Bengie Molina -9.1
Billy Butler -9.0
Paul Konerko -7.1
Kendrys Morales -6.7
Victor Martinez -6.6
Frank Thomas -6.5
Mike Piazza -6.4
Yadier Molina -6.4
Jorge Posada -6.3
Casey Kotchman -6.0

It’s Bengie Molina, then it’s Butler, almost in a tie. Then there’s a gap of about two runs before you get to Paul Konerko. None of these are surprising names. Baserunning value is predictable in that way. We see that Butler is one of the worst baserunners in recent baseball history.

What about in not-so-recent baseball history? Now we have to change up the metrics, but Baseball-Reference offers some baserunning information that goes beyond just 15 years ago. So, I searched through it all, once again establishing a minimum of 2,500 career plate appearances. I’m going to show you two tables. There’s a minor bit of controversy here. Some people prefer to include double plays with baserunning value. Other people prefer to leave them separate. At FanGraphs, we mix it all in together. For this first table, let’s look at baserunning by itself:

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Worst in History
Player Baserunning/600
Alex Avila -4.3
Mike LaValliere -3.8
Rick Cerone -3.6
Bengie Molina -3.4
Pat Duncan -3.3
Prince Fielder -3.3
John Flaherty -3.3
Babe Pinelli -3.2
Kirt Manwaring -3.2
Bruce Benedict -3.2
Dave Magadan -3.1
Ramon Hernandez -3.0
Billy Butler -3.0
Charlie Hollocher -3.0
Henry Blanco -3.0
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference
Just based on baserunning, not including double plays.

Butler looks bad here, but not quite worst-ever bad. He’s separated by more than a run from last place, and that’s a pretty substantial buffer. Yet, when you include the double plays, this is the result:

Worst in History
Player Baserunning/600
Bengie Molina -5.8
Billy Butler -5.6
John Flaherty -5.3
Toby Hall -5.2
Alex Avila -5.0
Willie Aikens -4.9
Paul Konerko -4.8
Dave Valle -4.7
Randy Milligan -4.7
Yadier Molina -4.6
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference
Based on baserunning and double plays.

There’s Butler, bumping up against Molina again. I don’t know why these numbers are less extreme than the numbers on FanGraphs, but they still manage to tell a similar story. I understand the arguments for and against including double plays when you’re talking about baserunning. It’s kind of a blended skill, involving both hitting and running. So you can choose your own takeaway, but there’s no way to make Butler’s baserunning look good. And if you take double plays into account, well, Butler is a slow-footed righty who’s always made contact and put the ball on the ground. He’s been paid to sustain rallies, but he’s ever so often worked to kill them.

Looking at that last table, Molina still stands out as the least-valuable runner in recorded history. Butler’s close, and he’s also getting older, which opens some doors. Butler did almost all of this before turning 30. He has a chance to pass Molina and become the worst runner ever, according to this. The tricky thing is that Butler is no longer assured of regular playing time. His bat hasn’t been good enough, which means, moving forward, his legs might not be bad enough.

Here is how Butler has done, season to season, by the FanGraphs and Baseball-Reference numbers:

butler-value

That’s just — that’s consistently bad baserunning. It’s not all Butler’s fault. He was born this way. Let’s say Butler gets another 500 plate appearances before the end of his big-league career. In order for him to pass Molina in the last table, his baserunning would have to be at least 6.8 runs below average. If Butler gets another 750 plate appearances, his baserunning would have to be at least 9.2 runs below average. And, if Butler gets another 1,000 plate appearances, his baserunning would have to be at least 11.6 runs below average. That last one works out to 7 runs below average per 600 PA. Butler’s been worse than that, in 2010, and in 2015. There’s a chance.

Maybe it’s not a great one. Butler would require some sort of offensive resurgence. It’s at least something we can’t yet rule out, because Butler still hits decently enough, and teams tend to find room for bats. As things stand, according to the numbers, Billy Butler has been almost the worst baserunner on record. It’s not impossible he could play enough to ditch the “almost” part. Did you need another reason to be excited about 2017? Baseball is nothing without its history.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Mahoney
9 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Sullivan

Kind of like seeing if Jeff Mathis can set the record for most career PA’s while batting under .200. It’s his for the taking if you go back to 1920, but if you go back further you get the illustrious Bill Bergen, who hit .170 over 3,228 career PA’s.

No amount of framing magic could keep Mathis’s career alive long enough to threaten Bergen’s mark.

Hugh Glass
9 years ago

I was (am) a Giants fan during the 2007-2009 post Bonds era of mediocrity. Molina was our best hitter and I remember him quite fondly for his timely hitting and positive energy, as well as his contribution to the 2010 WS champ team.
That said… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKLtTH2Vx08 Look at that man run. Butler cannot be a worse runner.

EonADSMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Glass

That is just majestic. It’s kind of like watching Prince Fielder run towards the end of his career. Just slower.

hurricanexyzMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Glass

Wow, that would’ve been an inside-the-park home run for an awful lot of players. For any proper speedster (I always think of Jose Reyes in his prime) it would’ve been, like, an easy inside-the-park home run. A stand-up inside-the-park home run. A “we all know he’s gonna circle the bases before he’s reached second” inside-the-park home run.

LHPSU
9 years ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

Could we not give him the benefit of the doubt that he just did it to complete the cycle?

Not that I really believe that myself but

hurricanexyzMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

I mean, I doubt that Bengie Molina had any chance of circling the bases on that ball. Just, a lot of other people would’ve, some with room to spare.

carterMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

Beyond a doubt a couple major leaguers could of circled the bases and made it back to first again

booj11
9 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Glass

Damn. He just looks like he’s in pain. It’s like that weird combination where he looks like he’s loafing, but also like there’s no higher gear to kick it into.

YKnotDisco
9 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Glass

“Pigs have flown in Boston Massachusetts!”

CheeseballMember since 2016
9 years ago

“Did you need another reason to be excited about 2017? Baseball is nothing without its history.”

Sublime. One of Sullivan’s finest sign-offs.

Psychic... Powerless...
9 years ago
Reply to  Cheeseball

Simply put, he’s a wonderful writer.

hurricanexyzMember since 2016
9 years ago

Butler’s also just 2.3 (negative) runs behind Konerko for the all-time record for aggregate bad baserunning!

Except of course that “all-time” here is a bit unfair. Before 2002 people only had one way to accrue baserunning value, positive or negative. By wSB, the thing that goes back all the way, Butler’s only been half a win below average; it’s all UBR and double-plays. And when recorded history is this short, I get curious how the more distant past would’ve looked with modern measurement tools.

For instance, I’ve always found it kind of funny that the two people, post-1901, with the most accrued negative wSB value are Lou Gehrig (102 SB, 101 CS, -27.2 wSB) and Babe Ruth (123 SB, at least 117 CS, -23.4 wSB). And I can’t help but wonder what Ruth and Gehrig’s UBR or double play numbers would’ve looked like. (Apparently raw GDP is not recorded that far back, unfortunately.) Were they even worse (in the aggregate) than Butler and Konerko, and we just can’t know? Or were they decent baserunners aside from their unfortunate tendency to try to steal at coin-flip odds?

It’s like the converse of the argument made here about Tim Raines (that presumably also could be made for the likes of Rickey Henderson or Lou Brock or any of the other great speedsters of the past): http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/tim-raines-missing-information/

Also I really wish we could know exactly how insane Rickey Henderson’s baserunning was. At his peak he twice provided as much value just from base-stealing as Billy Hamilton has put up in each of the past couple of years including UBR. He exceeded Hamilton’s +8 wSB mark eight times, and came close two others, including once at the age of 39, because, yeah. Was he actually putting up consistent +20 BsR seasons? Did he brush +30 in his very best years? Might he have been worth something like +300 baserunning runs for his whole career?

YKnotDisco
9 years ago

“Butler runs like he doesn’t want to wake up a baby”. Jeff blessed us with that line yesterday in another post of his.

Mike NMN
9 years ago

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Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
9 years ago

As a side note, I had no idea Avila was such a terrible runner.

joshstuart
9 years ago

This is missing the quintessential ‘Billy Butler Running’ clip… in which he gets thrown out at first from right field: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5xLUirLIU

rockbardMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  joshstuart

The thing that pains me the most about that clip is remembering how good an arm José had, and he blew it up trying to throw out Adam Jones out of spite. =(

chaokangMember since 2020
9 years ago

So who will try and convince Butler to attempt to steal some bases?

JDX
9 years ago

The correlation between being named “Billy” and having something “noteworthy” about your base running skill seems high.

CamdenWarehouseMember since 2025
9 years ago

Joe Posnanski had a fun post on Butler a few years back.

“I have long said that the slowest measurement known to man is a ‘Molina’ and that all players can be measured against it”

http://joeposnanski.com/slowest-player-in-baseball/

FillmoreMember since 2026
9 years ago

Pardon my math skills, but why would his baserunning need to be worse the more future plate appearances he gets in order to bring his lifetime baserunning average down the same amount? Isn’t that backwards? Wouldn’t it be 500 plate appearances at -11.6, 750 plate appearances of -9.2, or 1000 plate appearances at -6.8 in order to bring his lifetime average down the requisite amount? Someone correct me if I’m mistaken.

RK
9 years ago
Reply to  Fillmore

Those numbers Jeff gave are absolute, not per 600 pa. If you were to convert them to rate statistics (i.e. per 600 pa) you would see that, yes, the required level of terribleness declines as the number of plate appearances increases

de CarabasMember since 2025
9 years ago

I have to wonder where Jesus Montero would fit on the list if you removed the 2,500 PA requirement.