Can More MLB Hitters Get Off the Ground?

In his spartan hitting facility in a San Fernando Valley industrial park near Los Angeles, private hitting instructor Doug Latta said something of a hitting “think tank” developed.

There in a windowless, warehouse-like structure that encased two batting cages and a gym, Latta, a former high-school coach — along with other hitting instructors from the private to amateur and professional ranks — gathered on the Astro-turf carpet on fold-out chairs to discuss their craft. Latta kept about 30 chairs on hand for larger crowds. Don Slaught, a former major leaguer turned instructor, was a frequent visitor and in one meeting debuted his swing analysis computer system, Right View Pro. Greg Walker, who had served as a hitting coach with the White Sox and Braves, was another regular contributor. During one meeting, he told a story about how a new player had asked him a question. His response: “I don’t know, let’s go to the cage and find out.” That story resonated with Latta. He saw it was not about knowing all and having an answer for everything. Rather, coaching was about searching for an answer that works for a hitter.

In conversation with FanGraphs last week, Latta said there was “flow” during the talks. The meetings exposed what Latta describes as a “big hole” in how hitting is taught at all levels of the game. Those conversations, combined with thousands of hours of working with hitters and poring over video, led Latta to a hitting philosophy.

In simplistic terms, the philosophy is this: the optimum swing plane is an uppercut, which is often at odds with much of conventional wisdom. The principles are basic: stay square, stay balanced, stay relaxed, and get the ball in the air.

The philosophy helped two of Latta’s clients, Justin Turner and Marlon Byrd – for Byrd it was between PED suspensions – reach new levels of performance.

Others, like J.D. Martinez and Josh Donaldson have found success, through a similar philosophy – based largely on getting balls in the air – by working with private instructors. Donaldson credited so much of his success to his swing change that he chose his private instructor – Bobby Tewksbary – to pitch to him in the 2015 Home Run Derby.

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The 2013 Oakland A’s won 96 games in part via a fly-ball approach, posting the top ratio on record since GB/FB metrics have been tracked. A fly-ball swing plane is especially effective against two-seam, sinking fastballs, as noted in The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball. Despite these successes, Latta’s philosophy, and those similar to it, haven’t been widely adopted in professional baseball.

“You would be surprised at how much resistance [exists],” Latta said. “We talk about swing planes, how we initiate the swing, getting the ball in the air. That stuff is antithetical to most people out there doing training.”

Despite Dr. Alan Nathan’s research on the optimum swing plane, despite technological advancements — such as the two years’ worth of of Statcast data quantifying exit velocity and launch angles — batters haven’t changed their batted-ball profiles as a group.

Latta said too many amateur and professional players are taught to chop down on the ball, to “chop wood,” with the idea of producing back spin. Others talk about trying to get from Point A to Point B – the contact point – as quickly as they can. Latta said the chopping-wood approach is folly, as is the concept of trying to create “separation.”

“Staying back, then stretching the front foot forward, reaching out, while pushing the hands back … everyone talks about this separation, but the next move you see the body is no longer connected,” Latta said. “Now you are creating a path that is flat through the zone, [the barrel] will be perpendicular to the path of the pitch… energy is exhausted across the hitting plane instead of through the hitting plane.”

While there are different optimum swing paths for different types of hitters, we know more offense is generated through fly balls than ground balls.

In 2016, there were 3,079 doubles, 463 triples and 5,422 home runs via fly balls. When elevating the ball, batters hit .241 with a .715 slugging mark and a wRC+ of 139. In 2016, there were 988 doubles, 47 triples and zero home runs (as you might expect) via ground balls. Hitters batted .238 and slugged .258 on ground balls with a wRC+ of 27.

The National League’s MVP recorded a 0.67 GB/FB ratio last season, the fourth-best fly-ball ratio among qualified batters.

I asked Latta if he could change most hitters’ fly-ball tendencies.

He respond with a confident, emphatic one-word answer: “Absolutely.”

He has proof.

In the same facility where the “think tank” of hitting instructors gathered, in the same space where he has hosted curious major-league executives and hitting coordinators, he revamped the swings of Byrd and Turner.

Turner met Byrd when the former was playing as a reserve for the Mets in 2013. Byrd had spent the previous offseason rebuilding his swing with Latta, which I reported back in 2013. Byrd had serendipitously met Latta while looking for a place to hit near his offseason home after the 2012 season. After a winter of regular work with Latta, Byrd hit a then career-best 24 home runs with a career-best 132 wRC+.

Byrd went from an extreme ground-ball hitter earlier in his career, averaging nearly two ground balls to every fly ball from 2010 to -12, to posting a ratios of 1.06 in 2013, 0.92 in 2014, 1.17 in 2015 and 0.71 in 2016 in his brief tenure with the Indians before he was hit with a PED suspension.

“He was fast,” Latta said of a younger Byrd. “All his life, told to hit ball on the ground.” While Byrd’s improvement is viewed with suspicion due to his PED ties, he did benefit from changes to his swing path.

So in the winter of 2013-14, Turner, who lives in Southern California, began making a regular commute to Latta’s facility in search of a better swing. Since Turner broke into the majors in 2009, through the 2013 season, he’d produced a .260/.323/.361 slash line and 92 OPS+. His 162-game average for home runs? Five.

Said Turner to MLB.com: “It wasn’t something that just happened overnight. We did it five days a week for four months, trying to fix [my swing] and get to where I can repeat it.”

In Latta’ two nylon-netted cages, they began with flip drills. “Lots of flips,” Latta said. They advanced to a slider machine as spring training approached. Latta said they “built up” to live pitching, mastering adjustments before taking the next step. A key concept is finding a balance point, Latta says, to “create a launch from a good body-balance [position].” And it’s from that position, Latta says, where “the barrel is going to stay on the same path as the pitch for a longer time, it will always result in a natural upper cut.”

The following season, Turner produced a .340/.404/.493 slash line with the Dodgers in 322 plate appearances, producing a career-best 158 wRC+. Was it a fluke? Hardly. In 2015, Turner hit a career-best 16 home runs and produced a .294/.370/.491 slash line and 142 wRC+. Last season, Turner continued to hit, posting a career-best 27 home runs and a 124 wRC+.

While with the Orioles and Mets early in his career, Tuner’s GB/FB ratio hovered between 2.00 and 1.45 per season. In 2015, it fell to an an even 1.0 mark; last season, to 0.9.

Consider some video evidence of the Old Turner from 2012:

And the New Turner in 2016:

The relationship between fly balls and power is strong. Consider the batted-ball tendencies of J.D. Martinez as an Astro in 2012 and 2013. Martinez posted GB/FB ratios of 1.64 and 1.30 in those season, respectively. In his breakout 2014 season with the Tigers, after changing his swing plane, Martinez posted a 1.1 ratio, then a 0.79 rate in 2015, and 1.17 last season. After sub-100 wRC+ marks in 2012 and 2013, Martinez has posted marks of 154, 137 and 142 in three consecutive seasons.

What’s interesting about the improvement from Byrd, Donaldson, Martinez, Turner — and, to a lesser extent, Matt Joyce’s breakout — is they followed a similar formula: they worked with outside, independent hitting coaches and they began to lift pitches and drive pitches more often. This is what Joyce told me last season after he went from a non-roster invitee to making the team, and later earned a two-year deal with he A’s this offseason:

“You read things about Donaldson and Tewksbary, they are trying to get you on plane with the ball and stay on that plane… Ideally you want to create the most bat-speed as possible, get your swing on the same plane (as the pitch), and stay in the zone on the path to the ball as long as possible.”

Said Latta: “Most people labor under the idea that everything at the big leagues is the best it can be and there is nothing better than that… There is a lot of stuff out there that needs to change.”

Not all major-league hitters, or organizations, adhere or adopt to this philosophy of hitting down on the ball, as Eno Sarris reported back in 2015, but Latta says far too many amateur and professional players he encounters – he works with 24 professional hitters – are taught to swing down.

So why aren’t we seeing more fly balls? Why aren’t we seeing more adopt the philosophies shared by Latta?

Latta summarized much of it through one word: “Fear.”

One of his clients, a Double-A player, called him fighting back emotion because of the pressure being applied from his minor-league coaches to use a conventional approach versus an uppercut swing plane. Latta notes young players are at “the mercy” of a coaching staff. Latta says there are errant organizational hitting philosophies.

“Even executives – not even in the coaching ranks – have opinions,” Latta remarked. “Do you know how dangerous that is?” Latta said as an outsider, as a private instructor, he has the advantage of not having to fear for his job if he deviates from an organizational philosophy.

Moreover, the term “uppercut” carries a negative connotation with young players who have been taught to hit with a level swing, to chop down at the pitch, to get from Point A to Point B as quickly as possible. Swings are also very personal and prized.

“It’s gotta be done at the grass-roots level,” Latta said. “Everything they hear from 5 years old and up, you take a step back and say ‘This is why there is big a disconnect.’

“The generation of [amateur] hitters I’m teaching now are going to hit [pitches] in triple digits. It’s the reality. Triple digits are here… Any inefficiency in the swing is going to be more pronounced. We have to be more efficient.”

Part of the issue is hitters have not had the same tools to quantify their swings and skills like pitchers. Pitchers have had PITCHf/x since 2008. While HITf/x provided some insights, the industry has only two years of more comprehensive Statcast data, and perhaps some small advancements were made in the second year of the Statcast Era.

Consider this chart created by Bill Petti for this Sarris piece on the power of suggestion in December. There were slightly more optimum launch angles last season:

Latta said it’s incumbent on players to be curious and intellectual about the craft.

One of my favorite stories from last spring was talking to then Pirates’ non-roster invitee Cole Figueroa – who made the team – about his beliefs in swing philosophy. Figueroa is now working in the Tampa Bay front office.

He recounted a story about how when he had been in a different major-league camp earlier in his career. He’d heard a prominent player and the club’s hitting coach discussing how to create backspin through a chopping-wood approach. Figueroa approached him later in the clubhouse, and the roster hopeful explained to the positional-player regular how he had it all wrong.

“Figueroa said this idea of backspin was a myth, the swing plane he was using was not optimal. He explained what he really wanted to do is hit the ball as squarely as possible with a slight upper cut… He had the science to prove it: a Dec. 2014 study by University of Illinois professor, Dr. Alan Nathan, showed spin has little effect on batted ball distance.”

So why aren’t more hitters aware of this or listening to those who are? Why were more balls not being hit into the air in 2016?

“You see a Donaldson, you see a Turner, you hear people talking a little more. Now you can quantify [quality of contact)… But it’s still a small movement,” Latta said. “The results speak for themselves, but you are taking on 100 years of thought.”





A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.

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humanbeingbean
9 years ago

I (finally) made an account just to be able to comment how much I loved this article, Travis. Loving all your work so far. An interesting possible effect of this, though, is how this swing path would be used by players with a lot less raw power than Donaldson, Turner, Martinez, etc. You couldn’t really expect Billy Hamilton to adopt an uppercut and start slugging. But maybe this sort of thinking is one of the causes of home run rates climbing so drastically in MLB – smoother and more efficient mechanics leading to home runs instead of just pure strength. Even though this philosophy isn’t being preached by most coaches (yet another drawback of relying too much on stubborn old people who don’t want to accept change/hard numbers), maybe more players than we think are seeing the results and trying it out. Enlightening piece!

Chaco ChickenMember since 2025
9 years ago

You can lead a sport to the scientific method but you can’t make a dead horse think more than twice a day. Something like that. Great article.

Baltar
9 years ago

Cheezits, Travis, you hit it out of the ballpark again. Do you write with an uppercut?

jrubyMember since 2026
9 years ago

Very interesting stuff!

As an aside, good to hear that Figueroa slid right into a front office job. Not at all surprising, but cool nonetheless.

Green Mountain Boy
9 years ago

It’s about time some instructors are going back to teaching hitting correctly. Ted Williams always said the best swing plane was a slight uppercut. He was right then and he’s still right now. It kills me to see all these guys 6’2″ and 200 lbs who can’t hit even 10 HR per year. Hank Aaron was never that big in his life! It’s all about swing plane and torque.

If you ever watch the PGA Tour, you see guys who are 5’9″ and 150 lbs blasting drives out there 325 yards with regularity. Now THAT’S getting maximum torque and leverage out of your body. I’ve often wondered why some MLB team doesn’t take a chance and bring in a good golf instructor and apply what they’ve learned about hitting a golf ball far and apply it to hitting a baseball. I bet the results would be very interesting.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
9 years ago

I have been a PGA member for nearly 50 years and the similarities in the swing mechanics far outweigh the differences even though the ball is stationary in golf. The physics of torque with the torso and legs and the application of the arm, wrist and bat/club lever are virtually identical. Ted Williams understood the swing. His idea of hips first, then shoulders, then the unleashing of the lever is easily seen in both swings. When done correctly there is no reason a modest sized individual cannot hit for great power, Willie Mays was only 5’10” and 180 pounds and he did alright, as did Hank Aaron and I am not the least bit surprised that Mookie Betts has mystified those who cannot see where the power comes from. All the details would require a book but this article is great at slaughtering some of the sacred cows that still hold sway in many baseball organizations.

Lows005
9 years ago

This article gave me the warm fuzzies. I’ve been preaching the benefits of an uppercut swing for years. Unfortunately, I didn’t have the backing of numbers and research. My belief has been mostly based on my own successes as a high school hitter, college pitcher and slow-pitch softball slugger. That sounds ridiculous because, well, it is…but the “eye test” also proved to have some worth in this discussion. I’ve have watched baseball religiously my entire life and I have always been drawn to hitters with an uppercut, smooth and almost effortless swing. Obvious names like Ken Griffey Jr. and Will Clark come to mind, but even guys who possessed marginal HR power like Mark Grace (great doubles power) had swings I would try to emulate. I’ve often wondered why more players haven’t adopted this philosophy. Two years ago, I dropped Justin Turner’s name in a list of guys I loved watching hit. Alongside his name were guys like Miguel Cabrera, Matt Carpenter and Josh Donaldson. The guy I was talking to scoffed at the idea of having Turner listed with those guys but it appears maybe I was right, even if I’m being a bit myopic. My favorite part of your article was this, “Moreover, the term ‘uppercut’ carries a negative connotation with young players who have been taught to hit with a level swing, to chop down at the pitch, to get from Point A to Point B as quickly as possible. Swings are also very personal and prized.” I think a lot of coaches try to simplify or remove personality from their players…whether it be their swing or their delivery on the mound. There is nothing wrong with removing wasted movement or noise, but I think some coaches are a little too excited to “get their hands on a player”.

pepelestat
9 years ago
Reply to  Lows005

Slow pitch player here too..do you have any single person(no one to do soft toss with) drills that you might recommend that helps with these types of swings? My handle at yahoo if you’d like to email!

Thank you!

JT

Lows005
9 years ago
Reply to  pepelestat

I haven’t played softball for a few years but I never really “worked” at my swing. I’ve had a very natural uppercut swing for as long as I can remember. I played a ton and, I mean, a ton of wiffleball growing up. I think learning the mechanics of a swing with something so light allowed me to develop my swing without having to “muscle” the bat as a little leaguer.
From an early age, I was blasting homeruns and I was one of the lighter framed kids…I was one of the lighter framed guys in our softball league too but hit the hardest and furthest homeruns. I’m functionally baseball strong, and that’s about it. Maybe 6-1, 190 lbs and I touched 90 on the mound and hit softballs about 450 feet.
A lot of guys I played softball with would “walk the box” and do all sorts of non-baseball stuff. I never did that. My swing in softball was the same as my baseball swing, only with a more pronounced leg kick. Soft toss really allows you to feel like you’re “lifting” the ball…it’s easy to “catch” it on the way down with soft toss. I think tee-work is better though. It’s more difficult to get the correct plane on a tee without topping it, or hitting the tee itself, and that’s the challenge…but the reward is great.
Tee work into a net might be the “solo” drill you’re looking for. In college, guys would set the tee at the end of the netted hitting cage and try to hit line drives all the way down the tunnel. That’s a nice drill, but my favorite was to take a ball, mark it was a large dot (this works as a target) and place it on the tee. If the baseball/softball were the earth, place it on the tee in such a way that the dot is just south of the hemisphere. Work on hitting that dot with your swing. So many guys tend to just “go through the motions” with soft toss and tee work. There is something to be gained from those drills. Do them with a purpose. Add an objective if you need to.

vbjd1111Member since 2019
9 years ago

The key to changing minds at a fundamental level in golf was TrackMan. It measures spin, clubhead speed, launch angle, exit velocity, swing path to the nth degree, and it lets each golfer figure out his/her own best approach. When you have the stats and instant feedback it’s simply impossible to ignore.

In baseball you have so many more variables associated with a moving ball, different spins on the ball, and different ball locations. If you could isolate some of these and “prove” (theoretically) that a certain swing plane resulted in x distance and another plane in x+20feet (and/or higher exit velocity), then you would have something to convince those who have learned things one way their whole life. But they will still argue (as do many golf instructors!) that the old ways still work, or are better for some players, etc.

As described in this article, Latta seems to take a very complex mechanical task and describe it in very simple terms. My guess is that translating that into actual swings is much more complex and involves a lot more steps than “upper cut” and “stay square, stay balanced, stay relaxed, and get the ball in the air.” In fairness, that’s probably beyond the scope of this article, which was an interesting read.

j6takish
9 years ago

Regarding the resistance against this type of swing; Ian kinsler has one of the more noticeable uppercut swings in the majors and has long since been a subject of talking heads asking him to “flatten out” because he is a smaller guy who hits some lazy flyballs when he dosent square up

JCMasonMember since 2016
9 years ago

Another great piece, Travis. You’ve made this offseason less miserable with your exceptional work. Do you know any of the other 24 players Latta is tutoring? Will Latta share their names? Thanks

jrubyMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  JCMason

An LA Times article from March 2015 says that Justin Turner introduced then-rookie Joc Pederson to Latta for lessons. Don’t know if that’s a continuing relationship.

K-Man
9 years ago

This article is ace. Great work!
Two hitters coming to my mind immediately are Eric Hosmer and Max Kepler, who both hit the ball hard but struggle to get it in the air. And especially for lefties who pull a lot of balls, ground balls, however hard they are hit, are mostly wasted. I also find the “you’re-fast-so-hit-it-on-the-ground”-approach annoying. So many fast and small guys are able to hit for power — heck, a 6’0 guy held the all-time home run record for three decades!
And, most importantly, it looks so much cooler hitting with an uppercut swing. Compare the Turner swings from the GIFs in this article.

filpi614
9 years ago

We don’t need these fancy shmancy stats to tell us what Domingo Ayala already knew! Swing up, kids! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neHgPKWY4Qg

juliusseizure
9 years ago

I had to go back and re-listen to this video about Donaldson explaining his swing after reading this article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyWNCrxVzPU

bartelsjason
9 years ago

I have heard these sentiments mentioned briefly in certain player specific articles, but don’t remember reading an article dedicated to exploring the theory and practice in more detail as this.

I see some comments about different swings for different guys, but I see a guy like Pedrioa and wonder if he’d ever even made AA or AAA if he didn’t have such a violent and explosive swing geared to swinging up somewhat, even if that is due to dropping his hips down in some swings.

I personally like things broken down to the smallest detail that is still yet helpful. A few related to this article would be a study players grouped by height, and then even further by height and weight…to look at their gb/fb rates and BABIP and other stats like ISO. To see if there is an optimal height or BMI to fb/gb rates, and also looking at these players swings for optimal swings for height and weight to get the optimal outcomes.

I also would wonder and like to see a study done on guys with certain types of swings (uppercut or flat, etc), and see if certain swing plains were more or less effective to certain pitch types and areas of the zone.

So, I would ask for a study on height mostly, but also height/weight with swings and gb/fb success to look for optimal swings and approaches….and also pitch types and location vs certain swing plains success rates. I think those two things would be valuable if anything was found in them for both pitchers and hitters.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
9 years ago

This is definitely happening and probably will continue. It will be interesting how the pitchers respond. They pound into every pitcher to pitch down, but the uppercut swing is ideal to hit those pitches.

In theory pitchers need to pitch those guys up because those pitches have less downward plane and the pitch can get above the loop of the uppercut.

Bumgarner did that very well against cespedes who is one of the best “low ball golfers” but in reality probably only a handfull pitchers can pull this off.

Most pitchers will stay down so the uppercut swing probably continues to be a winning approach even if you occasionally get eaten up by a good high heat pitcher.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

The best would be a hitter who can swing more uppercut low and more level up in the zone to match both planes but that adjustment is probably not easy to do, because most guys probably just have their swing plane and stick with it.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
9 years ago

The most obvious candidate would of course be yelich. Hits it very hard, has the strength and hits everything on the ground.

Everyone can increase the power with better launch angle but the higher the exit velo the more you gain.

An average power guy can probably go from 10 to 20 but yelich probably could go from 15 to 35 HR. He should at least try it once I think.

On the other side for a Hamilton it likely does not make sense. There are exceptions like murphy but usually the pull fly ball approach means a little lower babip (see bautista, encarnacion and dozier. So for Hamilton going from 3 to 7 hr is probably not worth a drop in babip but for many it does.

It always depends on what you have to give up and what do you gain.for example murphy has so much barrel skill that he basically had no cost. On the other hand jason kipnis went from 9 to 23 with a pull in the air approach but became slightly less productive overall due to lower babip and more Ks.

Btw I think even the level swing should go slightly up to match the plane of the pitch. For contact plus 5 to 10 degrees is probably ideal while sluggers will go up to around 15 to 20 degrees. Nathan wrote a nice article about this.

If you swing down going up slightly probably always helps but going up to 15 plus can come at a cost. Players have to evaluate whether it is worth it.

LHPSU
9 years ago
Reply to  Dominikk85

I would caution falling into the same one-size-fits-all trap as the overzealous hitting coaches with this. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” is a nice rule of thumb…with someone like Christian Yelich who’s consistently putting up 120 wRC+ seasons and BABIPs in the .350-.380 range, trying to coax a little bit more power may not be advisable.

(Although, he has apparently in fact reaped dividends from more fly balls this year – 10 points to his wRC+ despite lowered BABIP, a much elevated HR/FB rate at the expense of some IFFBs, and a substantial increase to his .ISO. So it looks like he’s trying.)

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
9 years ago

This is a great article! So much of the evolution of the “theory” of hitting had no basis in science but was derived from the “feel” that successful players tried to pass on to others. That ‘feel’ is unique to each individual and cannot be adequately conveyed except in the broadest terms and in many cases even conflicted with Laws of Physics. I cannot imagine that two objects colliding on different planes would result in a very efficient transfer of energy. For years I have heard the cliche “Get on top of the ball” or said differently “He couldn’t get on top of that pitch” and wondered what how that made any sense at all. Who would want to hit weak worm killers all the time? It is only logical that the correct swing plane would be an uppercut to counterbalance the downward plane of the pitch being delivered from a mound. Only very recently have hitters begun to realize that they have been taught improperly and are making a concerted effort to hit the ball in the air. Let us see if 2017 continues that trend.

rbemont
9 years ago

The pitch comes in on a downward plane. A “level swing” will result in a ground ball.

Hence, the “C-Path” swing. The cool thing about the modern science of swing mechanics is we look back and Ted Williams figured all of this out naturally, and explained it very well.