Clayton Kershaw Is Still Experimenting
Around the end of last September, Clayton Kershaw began an experiment. A few times a game, seemingly at random, Kershaw would drop down and deliver a pitch from more of a sidearm slot. He took the experiment with him into the playoffs, and although that seems like it would’ve been ballsy, one of the explanations given was that Kershaw used to pitch from that slot in high school, so it wasn’t completely unfamiliar. It was clear immediately that the experiment was interesting. It was less clear whether it was particularly successful. Kershaw had a total of 25 pitches tracked from his lower slot, and I wrote about them in March.
One of the things about Kershaw is he doesn’t say much. So he didn’t offer much analysis of his own little quirk. We couldn’t be sure, therefore, whether Kershaw would resume dropping his arm in 2017. He didn’t throw any pitches like that in his first start. He didn’t throw any pitches like that in his second start. He didn’t throw any pitches like that in his first eight starts. It certainly looked like the experiment was dead. So it goes. If nothing else, at least he was still Clayton Kershaw.
Then start number nine came along. It’s back. For 21 pitches in the last four games, it’s been back. And Kershaw has added a new twist to his new twist.
Last time out, on Friday, Kershaw struck out 14 Brewers. He looks a lot like himself again, after a brief little relative slump. In the third inning of the Brewers game, Kershaw faced Eric Thames and struck him out on three pitches. Here’s the first one:
Pretty ordinary Clayton Kershaw fastball. 94 miles per hour, strike, a little bit elevated. Thames pulled the trigger and fouled the pitch off, and when you’re up against Kershaw, you don’t want to fall behind in the count. I mean, you don’t want to have to be facing Kershaw in the first place, but there are better and worse ways of even doing that. Anyway, with the count 0-and-1, Kershaw came back with another heater:
You see it, right? You see it in the delivery, and you see it in the follow-through. Kershaw dropped down for that pitch and Thames swung right through it. 94 miles per hour. If you try to read the body language, you can see signs of Thames looking out at the mound and then nodding his head. Like, “all right, that’s how we’re going to do this.” This is the old experiment, if you want to call it that. This is Kershaw dropping down and throwing a fastball more like a two-seamer than a four-seamer. The count was 0-and-2. And then:
This is the new element. It certainly caught Thames by surprise, and he had to shoot Kershaw a glance:
Not that Kershaw did anything wrong. Not that Thames did anything unsportsmanlike. Thames just looked out to the mound, because twice in three pitches, Clayton Kershaw dropped down, and one time, with two strikes, he spun a curveball.
Let me just put it all out there for you. The first pitch:
The second pitch:
The third pitch:
Here are the three release points:
There’s no question that Kershaw threw with an unusual delivery. There’s no question he was more sidearm, with a weirder kind of incomplete follow-through. That stuff could be considered relatively old news. But now let’s look at some plots from the Texas Leaguers website. Here are Kershaw’s 2016 release points:
Every single pitch thrown from the lower slot was a fastball. Don’t worry about how some of those points are red and some of them are orange — they’re identical. All fastballs, all basically two-seamer equivalents. Kershaw dropped down 25 times late last year, but he did so always with the same basic intent. Which, again, is still interesting! But you could see the potential downside. Maybe it was too much of a tell. Maybe it was going to be more trouble than it was worth. It’s not like there’s anything real subtle about Kershaw’s sidearm drop — it’s pretty clear even from early in his throwing motion.
Here’s the same plot for 2017:
It’s still mostly fastballs. When Kershaw has dropped down, the overwhelming majority of the time, he’s thrown the same pitch. But now there’s something new in there. Four curveballs are scattered among the orange and red. Thames was the recent recipient of one of them. Kershaw’s experiment went on hiatus, but then it came back, and it had been tweaked. Kershaw now looks more like Rich Hill than he had, and Hill was his specific inspiration for even trying this in a game.
Do not be led to believe it’s been a wild success. We’re talking about four low-slot curveballs, and one of them got a called strikeout. One of them was hit for a grounder. One was a ball, too high, and one was a ball, too low. The pitch to Thames has been the most successful of these curveballs, but it’s still worth highlighting just because this is Kershaw, and this is a sign of development, or commitment, or intention. Kershaw is stubborn enough he wants to make this experiment work. It seems like it stands a better chance than it did, when the lowered slot was more of a dead giveaway.
For those of you who are curious and really into the numbers — when Kershaw has thrown a drop-down fastball, the pitches have averaged about six inches more run, with a few inches more sink. The drop-down curveball breaks about six additional inches in the other direction, now with a bit less sink. Where the typical Kershaw curve is a 12-to-6 hammer, this variety is more like a slurve. I don’t know whether the pitch is all that good on its own, but that’s not what’s relevant. You always have to consider individual pitches within the greater context, and now one could say that Kershaw technically throws two fastballs, two curveballs, and a slider. He had three pitches for a while. Then he folded in something of a gimmick. Now he’s confusing from twice as many slots. We still can’t say it’s an amazing development, but it is development of some kind.
We’ve had some questions answered, then. Yes, Kershaw is keeping this up. And, yes, Kershaw is willing to throw non-fastballs from the lower slot. That second one could be key, as hitters are forced to have to guess about a whole new motion. This still isn’t something Kershaw does with tremendous frequency. And I still don’t love the way Kershaw looks when his momentum takes him kind of in the direction of first base. Something seems a wee bit unpolished. But a new twist is a new twist. Eric Thames saw a Clayton Kershaw just about no other hitter has seen. Other hitters aren’t going to know when they’re going to see that Kershaw for themselves.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.







Watching that strikeout live was a real treat.
I can only imagine how nice it must be, to be able to repeat your delivery so consistently, that when you throw from a different arm slot, you can come back to your original so effortlessly.
On a side note: Did he consistently throw from this dropped down delivery during HS? Or was it just kinda a here and there type thing, like he is showcasing now?
Every video I can see from HS, it looks similar to todays normal delivery.
* I haven’t the slightest clue, if I used commas correctly.
* I should ask the master of commas; the author of this post.
All hail the Oxford comma.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/10/clayton-kershaw-los-angeles-dodgers-getting-better-already-too-good-sidearm-mlb
“Rich Hill was kind of the inspiration for that,” Kershaw said during the Dodgers’ workout at Nationals Park on Thursday in advance of his NLDS Game 1 start Friday. “I don’t know, it just looked kind of fun. I used to do that in high school; I used to pitch that way a little bit.”
Click through the link in the first paragraph, and look at the comments. I went through an egregious amount of effort (relative to the visibility of the comment) tracking some of his delivery changes since high school.
Just curious, but do you think Grandal calls for the arm-slot? Or does he just call fastball/curveball and Kershaw decides what his arm angle is gonna be?
Seems like the catcher would want to know if the pitches have a different break to them.
We can’t know without watching the full video, which may or may not contain the signs, but I’m guessing that Grandal just looks at the arm slot. I mean, it’s not like the release is particularly subtle. Grandal knows that it’s going to be a fastball or a curve (depending on what he called), so he adjusts accordingly.
For a catch of his calibre, it’s probably one of the easiest jobs he has during a Kershaw start.
Yeah, as long as he knows what type of pitch is coming, the difference isn’t that great between the high- and low-slot movement. Comparatively, the difference between a fastball and curveball is massive. I can’t imagine how scary it must be to expect a curveball and get a fastball at your face.
Good question. Grandal didn’t look even a little bit crossed up on the two against Thames. Given the different break, seems like he’d have to have known it was coming.
Could be just seeing it in the delivery. Not sure exactly what Jeff was referring to, but for me I can see a slight difference when Kershaw drops down on his plant leg. Over the top, he is straight over his plant leg or slightly behind, almost like he’s about to drop into a chair; sidearm he is leaning out over his plant leg a little bit toward first. Grandal has a glove rather than a bat, so seeing it early may be enough to catch cleanly.
But if that really is enough, Grandal’s perfect positioning means that Kershaw a) is about as accurate from that arm slot as he is over the top and b) has already practiced this enough in side sessions for the catcher to read the movement easily. How many pitches would that take? Hundreds, right? In addition to everything he throws normally?
He wasn’t always accurate with the drop-down. He had trouble following through and would leave the pitch up to his arm side pretty often. I feel like he used to step more towards first on his prior drop-downs, but in these he is stepping to the same place, and in both cases he hits the glove side, which means that he may have actually improved his command of this arm slot.
He may have practiced this hundreds of times. It would explain why it took him 9 starts to throw it again. Maybe him or the pitching coach liked the twist but decided that if they carried it over into this season they should do it right and so worked on it for a while into the season until he was comfortable from that slot and grandal was comfortable receiving pitches from there
Note something else, kershaws fastballs register as 2 seamers from that slot due to rise turning to run.
He may also need to learn to locate it like a different pitch to really take advantage.
I actually don’t know whether he uses a four-seam or two-seam grip on it. If he could really get the two-seam grip down, he could add even more sink and run, which might make it even better as a different look.
Interesting note is that his fastball is usually one to two mph faster from the lower arm slot, and the curve is three or four faster.
“Eric Thames saw a Clayton Kershaw just about no other hitter has seen”.
If you’re Thames, and you have one choice of the two, do you take this approach from Kershaw as a compliment (scared to challenge conventionally) or as an insult (so good/bored he knows/thinks he can tinker around w/o being hit hard)?
Granted, Kershaw would get the best of Thames even with his conventional delivery, but maybe something is to be said, for trying this on Thames (I would suspect he is public enemy #1 in the scouting report)? If for nothing else, it’s just another something to have running through Thames’ head each PA from here on out.
I can’t help but think of a trick-play (HB Pass – WR Reverse – Flea-Flicker – ect) in football as a somewhat comparison. Like when the talent doesn’t match up (not suggesting Thames trumps Kershaw in talent), then the coach pulls out all the stops/gimmicks/tricks from his bag. IDK, maybe I’m overthinking this or just way off?
I would love to have enough time to find the full list of batters (counts & pitch types too) he has dropped down on. Also, would like to know if these batters are chosen at random or if it is dictated situationaly?
That looking strikeout of Thames was #9 in a string of retiring 20 consecutive batters.
Kershaw was just feeling reaaal good.
So Kershaw was already a cheat code. What does this make him?