Colorado Rockies Top 39 Prospects

Below is an analysis of the prospects in the farm system of the Colorado Rockies. Scouting reports were compiled with information provided by industry sources as well as my own observations. This is the third year we’re delineating between two anticipated relief roles, the abbreviations for which you’ll see in the “position” column below: MIRP for multi-inning relief pitchers, and SIRP for single-inning relief pitchers. The ETAs listed generally correspond to the year a player has to be added to the 40-man roster to avoid being made eligible for the Rule 5 draft. Manual adjustments are made where they seem appropriate, but I use that as a rule of thumb.
A quick overview of what FV (Future Value) means can be found here. A much deeper overview can be found here.
All of the ranked prospects below also appear on The Board, a resource the site offers featuring sortable scouting information for every organization. It has more details (and updated TrackMan data from various sources) than this article and integrates every team’s list so readers can compare prospects across farm systems. It can be found here.
| Rk | Name | Age | Highest Level | Position | ETA | FV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Adael Amador | 20.2 | A+ | 2B | 2025 | 60 |
| 2 | Ezequiel Tovar | 21.9 | MLB | SS | 2023 | 50 |
| 3 | Dyan Jorge | 20.3 | R | SS | 2026 | 50 |
| 4 | Jordy Vargas | 19.6 | A | SP | 2026 | 45+ |
| 5 | Yanquiel Fernandez | 20.5 | AA | LF | 2025 | 45+ |
| 6 | Nolan Jones | 25.1 | MLB | RF | 2023 | 45 |
| 7 | Gabriel Hughes | 21.8 | AA | SP | 2026 | 45 |
| 8 | Sterlin Thompson | 22.0 | A+ | DH | 2027 | 45 |
| 9 | Hunter Goodman | 23.7 | AA | C | 2024 | 40+ |
| 10 | Jordan Beck | 22.2 | A+ | RF | 2027 | 40+ |
| 11 | Zac Veen | 21.5 | AA | RF | 2024 | 40+ |
| 12 | Drew Romo | 21.8 | AA | C | 2025 | 40+ |
| 13 | Warming Bernabel | 21.1 | AA | 3B | 2024 | 40+ |
| 14 | Connor Seabold | 27.4 | MLB | SP | 2023 | 40 |
| 15 | Jeff Criswell | 24.3 | AAA | MIRP | 2023 | 40 |
| 16 | Joe Rock | 22.9 | AA | SP | 2024 | 40 |
| 17 | Victor Juarez | 20.0 | A+ | SP | 2025 | 40 |
| 18 | Michael Prosecky | 22.3 | A | SP | 2026 | 40 |
| 19 | Brenton Doyle | 25.1 | MLB | CF | 2024 | 40 |
| 20 | Jaden Hill | 23.5 | A+ | MIRP | 2024 | 40 |
| 21 | Julio Carreras | 23.5 | AA | SS | 2023 | 40 |
| 22 | Benny Montgomery | 20.8 | A+ | CF | 2025 | 40 |
| 23 | Carson Palmquist | 22.7 | A+ | MIRP | 2026 | 40 |
| 24 | Gavin Hollowell | 25.6 | MLB | SIRP | 2023 | 40 |
| 25 | Brayan Castillo | 22.8 | A+ | SIRP | 2024 | 40 |
| 26 | McCade Brown | 23.1 | A | SIRP | 2024 | 40 |
| 27 | Braxton Fulford | 24.5 | AA | C | 2025 | 35+ |
| 28 | Bryant Betancourt | 19.7 | A | C | 2026 | 35+ |
| 29 | Robert Calaz | 17.6 | R | DH | 2029 | 35+ |
| 30 | Noah Davis | 26.2 | MLB | SP | 2023 | 35+ |
| 31 | Ronaiker Palma | 23.5 | AA | C | 2024 | 35+ |
| 32 | Jackson Cox | 19.8 | A | SP | 2027 | 35+ |
| 33 | Michael Toglia | 24.9 | MLB | 1B | 2023 | 35+ |
| 34 | Tommy Doyle | 27.2 | MLB | SIRP | 2023 | 35+ |
| 35 | Karl Kauffmann | 25.9 | MLB | SP | 2023 | 35+ |
| 36 | Riley Pint | 25.6 | MLB | SIRP | 2023 | 35+ |
| 37 | Dugan Darnell | 26.0 | AA | SIRP | 2024 | 35+ |
| 38 | Angel Chivilli | 20.9 | A+ | SIRP | 2024 | 35+ |
| 39 | PJ Poulin | 26.9 | AAA | SIRP | 2023 | 35+ |
Other Prospects of Note
Grouped by type and listed in order of preference within each category.
Up-the-Middle Depth
Andy Perez, SS
Ryan Ritter, SS
Kody Huff, C
Hunter Stovall, 2B
Bladimir Restituyo, CF
Braiden Ward, CF
Nic Kent, SS
Perez, 19, is a super projectable lefty-hitting shortstop from Cuba who skipped the complex and was sent to Fresno after two years in the DSL. His underlying bat-to-ball performance is better than his surface stats, but his swing is just so long and geared for low-ball contact that I’m not sure it will work long-term. Ritter has 14 bombs as of list publication, but he’s coming out of the SEC (he was the Rockies’ 2022 fourth rounder from Kentucky) so he should be crushing the Cal League. He’s striking out 25% of the time and, same as pre-draft, I don’t think he’ll hit enough to make the main section of the list. Huff was a multi-positional Phoenix high schooler who went to Stanford to catch. I think his swing is grooved, but Huffy has been super hot in the month leading up to list publication and could use a promotion to test the bat. Stovall has a long track record of bat-to-ball performance, but a 2B/1B/LF fit on defense needs a bit more pop than he has. Restutiyo, 21, can go get it in center field, but he has some of the worst plate discipline in pro baseball. Ward, 24, was Colorado’s 16th rounder in 2021 out of Washington. He can fly and has begun to see time at second base in addition to all three outfield spots. He’s performed at a near league-average level in A-ball, for which he’s pretty old. Kent, a 2021 11th rounder from Virginia, can really pick it. The 23-year-old is repeating High-A and having a better year with the bat than in 2022.
Injured Lefties
Helcris Olivarez, LHP
Sam Weatherly, LHP
Ryan Rolison, LHP
Olivarez and Weatherly have both been 40+ FV prospects in the past as hard-throwing lefties with plus breaking stuff. Both have been out for most of the last couple of years with severe shoulder ailments. A former first rounder, Rolison’s stuff was down after returning from shoulder surgery this year and he’s back on the IL as of early June.
Potential Relievers
Case Williams, RHP
Evan Justice, LHP
Michael Peterson, RHP
At points during the past couple of years, Williams (who has gone back and forth in trades from Cincinnati) has looked like one of the better pitching prospects in the system. At times, he’s been into the mid-90s with plus breaking stuff, while at others he’s in the low-90s and getting shelled. Maybe a shift to the bullpen will help him find consistency. The Rockies don’t really have to decide until next season, Williams’ 40-man evaluation year, at the earliest. Justice is a lefty reliever at Double-A Hartford who’s sitting 94-95 mph with plus deception and tailing action. He’s working with his heater about 70% of the time and a lack of slider feel is all that kept him from the main section of the list. Peterson has been a FanGraphs fascination for a while now, a British flamethrower who will touch 100 mph but struggles to throw strikes and stay healthy.
Potential Depth/Spot Starters
Connor Staine, RHP
Alberto Pacheco, LHP
Chris McMahon, RHP
Nick Garcia, RHP
Connor Van Scoyoc, RHP
Staine got off to a great start in his draft year at UCF before his stuff and command waned as the 2022 draft approached. At his best, he was sitting 94-97 mph with a good slider, but more often he’s 92-94 with fringe command. Pacheco is a 20-year-old lefty with plus command of below-average stuff. His slider command might enable him to outpace this projection. McMahon, a former second rounder, missed most of 2022 with injury but is back and pitching at Hartford, where he’s sitting 91-92 with a good slider. Garcia, 24, was Pittsburgh’s 2020 third rounder from D-III Chapman University and was acquired for Connor Joe. He is running a nearly 8.00 ERA at Hartford while sitting 90-92 with a good changeup. Van Scoyoc was acquired from the Angels for Mike Moustakas just before list publication. He sits 91-93 with a very strange angle that helps his fastball play in the zone as a bat-misser. He can cut or sink his heater and has an above-average curveball, but he isn’t a typical athletic fit on the mound and his arm action is so long that it has an intermission.
Power Bats
Aaron Schunk, 3B
Grant Lavigne, 1B
Robby Martin Jr., OF
Zach Kokoska, 1B
Both Schunk and Lavigne are former high draft picks who I worry lack the hit tools to profile at their respective positions. Schunk, 25, is a former second round pick who had that J.D. Davis/Casey Schmitt/Matt Chapman college role, in which he was a power-hitting third base prospect who also pitched. He fell off the prospect lists here after the 2021 season because of strikeouts, but he’s performed at or above the league average each of the last two years as an old-for-the-level player. Lavigne was a high school comp pick in 2018 who walks a ton and has a 40 bat with 50 raw power and a groundball-heavy profile. Martin was a big deal as a high school and college prospect, a physical lefty corner outfield prospect from Florida State with contact issues to overcome. Mr. Kokoska is 24 and currently crushing High-A. He has a super quick top hand that snatches high fastballs to his pull side with power. I’m skeptical of the performance because of his age and the hitting environment in Spokane.
System Overview
I consider this to be an average farm system, but there are scouts who cover the org who would think that’s light. I’m skeptical of the bats who have been at Spokane for most of this season, but in the course of work on this list, no fewer than three of my sources said they think that as many as a half-dozen Top 100 prospects have emerged from that group or will in the future. The gap between my evaluation of Jordan Beck and that of these sources seems to be the biggest. It’s not that I think these players are bad, just that they aren’t the everyday, omni-situational bats that I envision as Top 100 prospects. I am all-in on Adael Amador, though, who at worst has a skill set similar to Jeff McNeil’s.
The Rockies’ core competencies and deficiencies have remained the same for some time, even amid regime semi-change. Senior Vice President & General Manager Bill Schmidt has been a Rockie since 1999, but his GM tenure only began midway through 2021. During his time with the org, he has been at the crux of Colorado’s proficiency: scouting hitters. While they sometimes have scary plate discipline, the Rockies have consistently been able to find amateur hitters who make it to the big leagues. They don’t always hit it quite as big as Charlie Blackmon or Ryan McMahon, but most of the Rockies’ homegrown success stories of the last many years, and most of the exciting players currently in their system, are sticks. Even if I’m right and most of these guys are players you “win with” and not ones you “win because of,” there are still enough hitters in this system to Voltron together a good platoon contingent at the corner positions around a Tovar/Amador middle infield.
I mention it in a few blurbs but it bears repeating: You have to be careful not to scout the stat lines in this org. Most of the Rockies affiliates play in either a hitter-friendly home park or league, and their hitters’ output is often caricatured while their pitchers get bombed. It makes sense for this org to try to forge their pitching prospects in bandbox fire given what awaits them at the big league level. Still, this is where the Rockies have fallen short most often. They haven’t been able to acquire and develop pitchers who can sustain a high level of performance. They’ve certainly tried, but most of the pitchers in the system tend to be “arrow down” guys over time.
Lately (similar to Oakland) the Rockies have targeted “ready-made” pitching in trades, getting older arms back in smaller deals as if they’re attempting to circumvent their inability to develop them. The problem is that pitchers don’t necessarily sustain their performance, and keeping them healthy and effective often requires the same tools that made them good in the first place. The Rockies are playing a decade’s worth of catch up with regard to pitching dev understanding and technological infrastructure. They’re an incredibly secretive org, and it’s possible they’re actively trying to close that gap without it being obvious to those of us who hang around their primary complex diamond.
Eric Longenhagen is from Catasauqua, PA and currently lives in Tempe, AZ. He spent four years working for the Phillies Triple-A affiliate, two with Baseball Info Solutions and two contributing to prospect coverage at ESPN.com. Previous work can also be found at Sports On Earth, CrashburnAlley and Prospect Insider.
Eric, good insight from the system overview, thanks1
I swear we have the same conversation about pitchers in Coors every year, but is there any reason the Rockies shouldn’t chase pitchers with low-spin fastballs, sliders, and splitters? Low spin and sliders seem to be the way to go there.
I think they do actually do this now, but it’s hard for me to verify because it’s hard to get accurate spin data for a lot of prospects and amateurs and because the pitchers that they were planning to roll with at the beginning of the year have all been there for a while.
You can’t make your pitching staff out of the same pitcher 13 times in a row, you become predictable. The Rockies should chase outlier talent in any manner, even if they favor certain patterns (flat VAA fastballs, steep SSW sinkers, hard breaking balls, gyro sliders, splitters). Instead, most of their pitchers tend to end up being a collection of 45-50 tools.
the Rockies haven’t started doing things with pitching dev. that most teams have been doing for 5+ years. The reason why the Rockies have trouble finding pitching has waaaaaaay more to do with atrocious ownership than Coors Field.
That seems like an unusually positive grade for Amador since he doesn’t have much power and he hasn’t reached AA yet. There are only a handful of routes to getting to that FV60 level if you haven’t solved AA yet. One is being absurdly young for level and holding your own like Jackson Chourio. Another is having ridiculous tools, like Druw Jones. The third is having good tools (even if they aren’t super elite) and completely destroying your level like Jackson Holliday. Amador is obviously a good prospect but it’s really hard for me to envision him as being on the same level as Jordan Walker or Francisco Alvarez were before the year started.
See my comments to Cool Lester below. I think he’s a pretty solid FV50+ and I’d probably go with a FV55 due to my bias towards guys with a little bit of the J-Ram Factor in their profile, and the distinct possibility that he graduates prospectdom as a true 60 or even 65 FV guy.
I think FV55 is reasonable for now. The offensive environment at Spokane is pretty extreme. I know it also is for some of its other affiliates but I don’t think their AA affiliate is nearly as hitter-friendly as Spokane.
To me, he’s way closer to guys like Brooks Lee or Jordan Lawlar than Jackson Holliday or Jordan Walker. (As an aside, there are a lot of guys listed as FV55 position players on THE BOARD who are not playing well this year. It’s wild)
I mean…he doesn’t have a career BB/K of 1.19 (while being young for his league) because of park factors, haha!
If you want to call him “Howie Kendrick with a better approach” rather than “pre-2018 Mookie Betts,” I won’t argue…I’d just point out that the only real separator between those two profiles is Mook’s absurd defense and baserunning, and he’s still very firmly a 60 FV guy.
(I also think that Holliday is a 65 and Jones a 55, at this point, and don’t view Lee as all that close to Amador)
Other than Holliday, I don’t think there’s a player in the minors more likely to put up a 4 WAR season…even as I would be shocked if he ever puts up a 6 WAR one.
Gotta admit, the Mookiest thing about Amador is the elite combo of batting eye and contact ability – I’m real glad Eric included his ridiculously low swinging strike rate. That’s a separator from guys with a merely passive approach (like Nolan Jones to an extent) or a desire to put any and all pitches into play because you can (see Arraez and Ichiro).
And never say never on a 6 WAR season ;). When Mookie was in AA, I thought he was on a path to a Roy White type career, with lots of All-Star worthy seasons but very few career MVP votes. Needless to say, that “ceiling” was busted a long long time ago.
Despite some of my skepticism about Amador being projected as an all-star, this is a much better system than I thought it would be. I had noticed that Veen and Romo had been struggling, but I think that barring health problems they have a shot to bounce back. And there are a lot of players doing better than I would have thought, especially a lot of those ex-college bats like Thompson and Beck. This would be my to-do list, based on the writeup here.
If Tovar makes improvements in his approach, he is an obvious choice for an extension. An Amador / Tovar middle infield is a solid building block but Amador isn’t in AA yet and so they would have to promote him quickly (especially for them) to get them to overlap.
Convert Sterlin Thompson to the outfield. The writeup on him seems like he is not a fit anywhere on the infield, even at first base, but he seems to have solid enough speed. If you can successfully convert him to the outfield, you have a pretty good chance of one of him or Jordan Beck handling a corner outfield spot.
Figure out Nolan Jones’s position. They seem like they’re committed to McMahon at third base, which is fine, but he’s got better tools in the outfield than I think a lot of people expected. I would let him get comfortable in the outfield instead of constantly sending him to first base, which is probably only a backup plan at this point. Being able to play the corner outfield in Coors is a huge asset for a team like this.
Find a long-term fit in center field. I don’t see a single player on this list who is a candidate. Brenton Doyle is not going to cut it, and Benny Montgomery looks like a mess. I don’t think they’re going to be able to trade for one because they don’t really have anyone to trade because almost everyone is playing badly and/or has massive extensions that were above-market even when they were signed. I think the only exception is Brad Hand? In any case, there are all kinds of rumors that they have already decided to grab Rhett Lowder in the draft if he’s there but I think they should give Enrique Bradfield Jr a serious look.
Amador has 20 HR power, walks more than he strikes out, and figures to be a solid defender at a premium position.
At the risk of hyperbole…his numbers are jarringly similar Mookie’s age-20 season.
And everything you described is why the consensus rating on Mookie was the 50-70 range, haha.
Amador’s profile is almost a dead ringer for D’Angelo Jimenez before he broke his back at age 21 (at one point, he had actually leapfrogged Alfonso Soriano as the Yankees’ top middle IF prospect in many assessments). Mookie or J-Ram are probably too optimistic at the high end, but he has a real good chance of being a better-fielding version of Martin Prado, which would be exceptionally valuable for a team playing half its games at Coors.
In short, if Mr. Cistulli was still on the Fangraphs roster, we would have already had an earful/eyeful of Amador on the Fringe Five lists, and with good cause.
I think that’s very likely hyperbole. His offensive numbers are inflated by his ballpark environment and he’s only in High-A. Let’s see what he can do in AA first.
At this point in 2013, Mookie was still in Low-A!
I obviously don’t expect Amador to turn into MOOKIE BETTS – I didn’t expect Mookie to, when I was laughing at lists that ranked Swihart and JBJ ahead of him
But the initial version? 120-125 wRC+ with 20 bombs, along with good defense and baserunning?
That seems very achievable…and that’s a 5 win player.
Juan Guerrero just an org guy now?
I don’t really agree with the headline. Which hitters have rockies produced of late? They have constantly among the worst wRC+ in the league
Was thinking the same thing. They produced Blackmon, Arenado, LeMahieu and Story. That’s 4 good or better players in what, 15 years? The next best after that by WAR is McMahon who is OK but has never really turned into the quality player everyone thought he was going to be.
WAR leaders for homegrown Rockies debuting since 2010 (only including WAR with the Rox):
Arenado 34.2
Story 21.3
Blackmon 19.3
DJLM 13.0
McMahon 8.0
Dahl 3.0
Wolters 1.9
Rodgers 1.6
Tapia 1.1
Ianetta 1.0
Hampson 0.4
I mean, that’s not exactly an impressive list for a 13 year period and it’s not like the list is populated with guys who went on to be great elsewhere either. Absolutely Arenado and LeMahieu have been very good and good respectively since leaving Coors and the jury’s still out on Story. But man does it fall off after that. McMahon didn’t put together even a 1 WAR season until he was 26 because they kept jerking him around while running out failed vets like Ian Desmond.
I’ve always thought the Rockies’ problem is they THINK they’re churning out guys who can rake but their numbers are all inflated by Coors and they aren’t nearly as good as their numbers sound.
You can remove DJ LeMahieu from the list too because he was drafted by the Cubs and made his MLB debut with Chicago. Really the list of hitters they have developed over the last dozen plus years is only Arenado, Story, Blackmon, McMahon – all of whom were first or second round picks. Everyone hits on some 1st and 2nd rounders, right? And then zero success stories from the later rounds? Not really impressive overall imo.
Good call. Forgot that LeMahieu debuted with the Cubs
Some comments from a masoch- eh, Rockies fan:
Tovar looked completely overwhelmed in April, but since early May he’s been a fine hitter and one of the two best players on the team (Ryan McMahon right there with him). Plus-plus shortstop glove, and his athleticism and ability to hit the ball hard and on a line anywhere in the zone to all fields is evident. Most exciting thing about him is you can clearly see the adjustments he makes in-game as he gets a look at pitchers and offerings. I’d be talking about an extension already, he’s gonna be a star. Another unique thing about Tovar: he’s 21, been married for a while and recently became a father for the first time. Poise, discipline, all of it. He has it in spades.
Amador is amazing, and I don’t know what he’s doing in Spokane. He needs to be challenged on his contact quality, and soon. If he goes to Double-A and mashes, they might want to consider trading Brendan Rodgers very soon (not that they’d do that).
I was concerned with Veen too, and still am, but he’d been playing through a hand injury since about halfway through last year, so maybe that’s a reason why he looked unable to fire well against velocity (like Romo struggling mightily after playing through injury last year). A shame we won’t find out until next year.
Yanquiel is incredible. That is all. He goes after almost anything, but he also does advanced stuff like mid-flight adjustments to breaking balls to send em 400 feet. He has the most vicious swing of any Rockie I’ve seen since peak CarGo.
Nolan Jones should be the Rockies everyday RF for a while. One of the better batted ball profiles in the big leagues, can really run and has a rocket arm. Classic RF profile, but it’s going to work. He’s a breath of fresh air for a team with so many undisciplined hitters who constantly get themselves out on pitcher’s pitches.
I’m way higher on Jaden Hill than you are. My only worry is the durability, the strike throwing will come and he has two fantastic secondaries (and velo). I bet on an athlete of that quality. Hughes concerns me a bit more, but he’s also very inexperienced for a guy already in Hartford. Both would project in the middle of the rotation for me, eventually.
The Rockies have an incredibly potent organizational preference for sinkers, but I think it often reaches the unhealthy point of prioritizing groundballs as the main goal of all their pitchers, whether that suits them or not. From some of what I know, there are important ppl in the org that are well aware of how behind they are in terms of pitching dev, and taking a step forward there was supposed to be a significant focus this offseason. They wanted to look for more swing and miss, and a more individualized approach to development, instead of following cookie-cutter molds for everyone. That last thing has been such a curse for this organization for years. Everyone HAS to be a groundballer, apparently, and they’ve messed up several pitchers doing that. Germán Márquez is example number 1.
The problem is I’m not seeing any signs of this supposed new approach to pitching in the big leagues. This team mostly still operates as if “fastball count” is a thing, and they are so predictable with opening ABs by throwing fastballs down and away at times. They still throw way too many sinkers without the platoon advantage. And they still have too many pitchers (Noah Davis, prime example) throwing simply far too many fastballs for no apparent reason. I think the org and especially Bud Black, who is clearly a massive influence across the org, is so terrified of walks that being aggressive with the fastball is the only solution they come up with. As such, pitchers are throwing their fastball too often, but since it’s their worst pitch, they know it and tend to nibble the corners, which leads to walks, which leads to Buddy and Darryl Scott insisting on more fastballs, which leads to said fastballs getting crushed. Rinse, repeat.
Their insistence on going almost exclusively after sinkerballers has so many ramifications. First off, it makes the big league staff too easy to bat against, because almost everyone pitches the same way. Second, it reduces the pool of talent from which they draw, because they often seem to dismiss certain pitcher profiles entirely. Even if there are some pitchers who don’t fit Coors to perfection, you still play 81 games on the road, and those pitchers can always be traded! It’s crazy to think about at times, and why I liked them going for Jackson Cox, a spin darling with incredible breaking ball feel. This team should prioritize preventing the ball from being put in play, period. Groundballs should be a result of good pitching, not the primary focus.
Pitch selection is another issue. Tracking with how behind they are in pitching, they seemingly tend to encourage guys to swing early and often, and it’s very interesting how frequently Rockies big leaguers will whiff badly at a pitch they thought was a fastball in a traditional fastball count. It’s almost as if they expect heater on every pitch, and then attempt to adjust accordingly. They have so many issues developing power hitters, which is such a shameful thing for this team. The Rockies have been at the bottom of the league in homers for a few years now, unthinkable for almost every single year of their existence, and I think that’s modern pitching catching them off-balance.
If there’s one thing they tend to do well, however, it’s developing good gloves. When Brendan Rodgers returns, the Rox will run out an infield of McMahon, Tovar, Rodgers and Montero/Toglia. That’s four Gold Glove caliber players, and Montero is no slouch at first himself. Doyle looks like an exceptional glove in CF (which means his leash is long, pause), their top C prospect has the reputation for elite defense, and even some of their corner guys have good defensive ability. That is also why I’m higher on Thompson to at least be a 40 at a few different spots, Jones to be above avg in a corner, and so on.
It hasn’t been a good year for the org. I thought the arrow was pointing up last year, but 2023 has been bad. And there’s no clear end in sight, considering they’re well behind in pitching dev, their best pitcher might never throw another pitch for this team again, and they seem hell-bent on running their few good homegrown relievers into the ground in their effort to avoid 100 losses. Look at Jake Bird and Justin Lawrence’s innings totals, people. If some of their position player wave stalls out… I don’t even wanna think about it.
The bottom line results have been good lately, but Ezequiel Tovar is striking out twenty times more than he is walking in the month of June. He has some things to work through if he wants to hit sustainably. This might be part of the larger organizational issue you mention about pitch selection but that actually makes me more worried.
Oh, his approach is still terrible! It’s just that his talent is so superlative and he’s such a disciplined guy that I’d bet on that improving at some point soon. I’ve been saying he’s gonna be a star since very early in 2022, tho, so maybe I’m biased. He reminds me of Francisco Lindor in so many ways.
Right now I’m thinking a bit of Miguel Tejada, who had some early growing pains at the plate in his MLB career. Still high on Tovar, if the Rox don’t find a way to mess him up.
I don’t know that there are many comps for a guy like this. But if you’re feeling optimistic, Tim Anderson is the guy you’re probably hoping for. It’s hard to remember because the most recent iteration of Tim Anderson was a bat-first shortstop with some iffy instincts in the field, but as of 2018 Anderson was a guy with a light bat and a good glove. Anderson had good bat to ball skills that were undermined by bad plate discipline, until suddenly he was hitting anyway. I don’t know that it is reasonable to expect anyone to follow that path, but it is theoretically available to him (especially if his defense doesn’t crater like Anderson’s eventually did).
The other guy who he reminds me of is Jose Iglesias, who was mostly a bad hitter with an excellent glove but who would occasionally BABIP himself into a decent season. He struck out a lot less than Tovar is doing now, but at first the profiles were kind of similar. You can imagine him taking a similar path if he just makes contact more often without dramatically changing his approach.
Tovar has far more power, twitch and physical projection that Iglesias did tho. The dude is still 21
Anderson seems like a pretty good comp,
Also, the thought of what Tim Anderson’s career BABIP would have been with half his games at Coors is boggling my mind a bit now.
The thing about Anderson is that he’s got a unicorn background.
It’s like expecting every big, athletic QB with a cannon but iffy accuracy to turn into Josh Allen.
Lol, I was onboard till the comment about Tovar being married and having a kid. Like, just cause he’s married and has a kid doesn’t mean he has any level of discipline or poise in his personal life. Lots of crappy husbands and dads out there. Could just as easily be starting his path to becoming baseball Antonio Cromartie. We don’t know.
Good ball player tho
Well, that one season that Bert Campaneris hit 22 homers happened to be the year after he first got married 😉
I don’t know any 21 year olds who been married and have kids already, personally. That + his work ethic and what he did with his time stuck in the us during covid tells me his makeup and maturity is above the typical 21 yr old, that was the point.
I don’t know anyone in Tovar’s specific situations but I know plenty of people who have…accelerated…their wedding plans based on immigration considerations, haha.
Anyway, he seems like a good kid!
This is definitely a “tell me you went to college without telling me you went to college” kind of statement. I also know nobody who was married with a kid at age 21, but that’s because I grew up with a bunch of kids who went to college, then I went to college and met more people who weren’t married with kids, then I graduated and took a job where I met more people who had done the same thing me and everyone else I knew had done. This kind of thing is more common (1) in earlier eras and (2) among people who didn’t go to a 4-year school (also, in related news, in earlier eras way fewer people got 4-year degrees).
Although who knows, maybe he will improve naturally if he’s getting woken up at night a lot due to a screaming kid.
I went to college for a year and dropped out, so yes and no lol
Is Antonio Cromartie a bad guy? I don’t pay attention to football anymore, I don’t know. He’s not Danny Tartabull.
(fun Wikpedia fact: I looked up his page to remember the exact details of Danny Tartabull’s situation, and apparently he got arrested because his son broke into Tartabull’s car and so he called the police to report it…where he was promptly arrested. I don’t know if that was the kid’s plan but if so, it was pretty clever)
He’s never gotten in major trouble…but he does have 14 kids with 7 different women, haha.
Imagine his collection of “World’s Greatest Dad” mugs.
Just chiming in to appreciate describing a prospect as having “thickened like a roux”. Impeccable stuff.
Lol, one of the best since Jose Ramirez was described as a little bag of flour!!
I really don’t understand how these grades make sense. Tovar is described as being someone whose defensive skills carry him, yet he’s only a 50/60?
A plus glove at short doesn’t make sense as a carrying tool?
No but a 50 is not a plus glove!
Calling a 21 year old an average MLB defensive SS, and projecting him to be a plus defensive SS means they think he has a fantastic glove.
Right, but he’s projected as a future 60 glove (which is plus).
You have to remember that the fielding grades are position specific. A 50 glove at SS is way more valuable than a 50 glove in RF. Someone who can play an average big league SS and hit over like 85 wrc+ has a pretty good shot at a 2 WAR floor.
Someone’s just put up the Aybar signal!
The Erick Aybar Zone Rules Everything Around Me (E.A.Z.R.E.A.M.)
Not to pick the low-hanging fruit of making fun of the Rockies, but is their core competency really developing hitters? Blackmon debuted in 2011 and Arenado in 2013, so I’m not sure they have any relevance towards the present day. The best/only hitter they’ve developed over the last decade is….. Ryan McMahon and his career 91 wRC+?
Is the best case for a Y Fernandez type player Teoscar Hernandez?
Coco Montes > Michael Toglia + Riley Pint
Actually think I really like this system, it seems well rounded to me with some guys who have skillsets that compliment each other. I guess that’s how you get the line “guys you win with, maybe not guys you win because of” or whatever, too lazy to scroll back up.
If ownership can ever cobble together some pitching, it isn’t hard to see this core of players be a solid team, but idk if that will happen.
50 seems low for Tovar. A legit big league SS that has anything going for them with the bat is a hell of a floor. If he makes any offensive improvements then he is above 50 that second. Most importantly, all of the things that he might improve upon are very realistic. Anyone can walk more and get stronger if they want to. That is not some dumb suggestion like hit more flyballs which is more complex than the player editor that people think it is. I suspect that if this ranking was well before mid-season he would be quite a bit higher. His struggles in his MLB debut seem very excusable to me and they really should not count for much against him. He started the year awful and has picked it up which is a very positive marker. I have not seen him at all and I don’t know what he is, but I know he is better than a 50 just based on the numbers.
I can quibble a bit with the “anyone can walk more and get stronger if they want to” part (Ben Revere had a long career without doing much of either), but if a kid who was a successful hitter in the high minors had a rough first half of his rookie year with plate discipline, and is trending the right way, you’re dead on right about not putting much on his first few months. Julio Rodriguez followed a bit of the same path, and though Tovar’s not the same level of player, he’s more of a 55-60 FV in my book.
Wouldn’t surprise me if he has a Miguel Tejada, Hall of Very Good type career when all is said and done.