Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 11/21/16
12:01 |
: MAKE CHAT GO NOW.
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12:01 |
: What could Jorge Soler bring back in a trade?
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12:03 |
: Not all that much these days as even though he’s young, he hasn’t taken a step forward and hasn’t even been all that healthy. It’d be sell low now for sure.
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12:03 |
: Would a trade of Soler, Eloy, Candelario, and Cease be enough for Archer?
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12:03 |
: I think the Rays would actually take that. Soler’s shine is off, but there’s a lot oto like in that trade.
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12:04 |
: What’s your take on the Rays-Mariners trade?
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12:04 |
: Honestly, mostly a shuffle of role players.
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12:04 |
: Joey Gallo and Cole Ragans for Vince Velasquez
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12:05 |
: If the Rangers trade Gallo, I suspect it’s someone with more certainty but a lower ceiling.
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12:05 |
: Cleveland was the only small market/revenue team in the playoffs this year. Is this a one year blip or is the ever shrinking information gap making it that much harder for the poorer teams to compete?
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12:06 |
: I think it’s too soon to draw conclusions. Remember, some of the advantages rebuilding teams have to gain value on the rebuild are built-in, no matter what the information gap is
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12:06 |
: As long as small market teams can get low-cost assets that are cost-controlled through baseball’s mechanisms, small markets can leverage rebuilds into quality teams.
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12:06 |
: Could the A’s sign Fowler, Moss, and Thames and just roll into 2017 with every prospect intact?
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12:07 |
: They could, but it seems rather uninspiring to make the team older and more expensive just to make a run at 79 wins.
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12:07 |
: With the wildly divergent nature of DRS/UZR how impressive is it that JJ Hardy has ranked positively by both systems in every one of his 12 seasons with the exception of DRS in 2010?
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12:07 |
: DRS/UZR isn’t highly divergent, there’s a high correlation between the two. There are *some* disagreements, but they mostly agree.
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12:07 |
: What would the framework of an Adam Eaton trade look like?
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12:08 |
: No Jerry Reinsdorf. I don’t believe they have the willingness or patience to do a full rebuild.
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12:08 |
: Would a package from the Dodgers of Alvarez, Buehler, Verdugo, and Calhoun be enough for Sale? Ie, could they get him without including DeLeon and Bellinger? DeLeon seems like he’s going to be an important piece for a win-now club this year, and Bellinger’s timeline lines up perfectly with AGon’s departure in two years, so seems like it would particularly hurt to lose those two. Is 4 top-100 prospects, including two big upside arms, enough?
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12:08 |
: I think you’re going to have to include DeLeon. And again, going back to the White Sox, I’m not sure they’re at the point at which they’ll really trade Sale for a realistic package.
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12:10 |
: I think they’re still at the stage at which they’re going “Oh, we’ll totally move Sale, because presumably we’ll get something crazy like Benitendi/Moncada/Devers/Kopech/Travis/Groome!”
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12:10 |
: Benintendi
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12:10 |
: sorry
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12:10 |
: Benintentional mistake.
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12:11 |
: Dylan Bundy made 1.8 million last year on the final season of the MLB contract he signed after being drafted but he isn’t eligible for Arbys until 2019. How much can/will the O’s cut his salary next year?
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12:11 |
: 1.8 correct? Thought it was like 1.2/1.3. Regardless, the maximum salary cut from a previous season is 20%.
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12:12 |
: (for a player not yet eligible for arbitration)
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12:12 |
: Would be kinda poor long-term thinking to try to cut an actual contributor to save 250K just because they have the ability to do so
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12:12 |
: Okay, what does St. Louis see in Brett Cecil that I’m missing. I get that by projected WAR, its pretty close to market value, but 4 years on something as volatile as a relief pitcher? I thought St. Louis was generally one of those teams good at finding surplus value in their signings. I’m not seeing any here.
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12:13 |
: I think the issue you’ll see a lot is that teams will have trouble squeezing out value in FA signings, so when they choose to make one, it’ll be pricey
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12:13 |
: Thoughts on the Brett Cecil signing (another spider for the K classroom)?
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12:15 |
: Slightly more than ZiPS would pay (4/24, which includes LI) but you’re going to see quite a bit of this. We’ll see if/when Matheny misuses Cecil as a loogy.
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12:15 |
: Everyone is predicting Jason Heyward will bounce back with the bat at least somewhat in 2017. What this question presupposes is: what if he doesn’t? When does it stop being too soon for the Cubs to give up, eat some salary to let another team try and fix him, and reclaim that spot in the lineup for someone who can hit?
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12:15 |
: Well, if he doesn’t bounce back at all, the contract is one of the worst contracts in MLB history.
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12:16 |
: Fate is cruel – not every disaster contract was ill conceived
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12:18 |
: Where do the angels go at second base?, no trade chips and horrible free agent class
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12:18 |
: I’m not sure they even know at this point.
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12:18 |
: I can see thetm going after Chase Utley
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12:18 |
: What MLB award is the closest in spirit to a glorified participation trophy?
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12:19 |
: MVP maybe since there’s this weird obsession with saddling a player with their team’s quality there?
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12:19 |
: Back injuries are no joke. Even though he cam back strong, how concerned should be be for the long-term health prospects of Kershaw? Should LA look to lessen his workload in 2017?
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12:19 |
: I don’t think there’s a reason to be over-concerned. *yet*
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12:20 |
: Does Knapp become the Phillies backup catcher just because of 40 man roster spots being unavailable for an addition?
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12:21 |
: The Phillies have shuffled a *lot* of their 40 man. I owuldn’t write it in pen.
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12:21 |
: Though it seems likely right now as I don’t think they start Alfaro in majors without giving him job
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12:21 |
: Where does Utley go? Chances he goes to one of the LA teams?
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12:21 |
: Pretty good I think.
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12:21 |
: Will the reds be able to rid themselves of them Phillips contract? What are the best fits?
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12:22 |
: They’ve been trying, but remember he threw a wrench in the Nats trade
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12:23 |
: It’s one of life’s ironies that Phillips was one of the most valuable Nats anyway.
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12:23 |
: Since it was only after he turned down the trade that they really turned to Dan Murphy
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12:23 |
: Who will be a better player in 2017: Granderson or Bruce?
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12:23 |
: Granderson
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12:24 |
: Is Scooter Gennett a non-tender canidate? Who would have interest in him?
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12:24 |
: I think they go Arb1 with him at least.
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12:24 |
: Looking back to the dodgers 2015 international spending, do you think they will end up better having taken the path they took, signing Yadier Alvarez, Yusniel Diaz, Omar Estevez, Starling Heredia and Ronny Brito? Or would have come out more on top just simply blowing by the limit the previous year and signing Yoan Moncada, something reports say they seriously considered?
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12:25 |
: May not be working out, but I think with international prospects, you’ll still do better in the long-run going for quantity on these types
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12:25 |
: Gray + Vogt for Inciarte + Newcomb + anyone seems like a slam dunk for both sides, IMO
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12:25 |
: Gray’s trade value has collapsed.
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12:25 |
: Last week Dave predicted that the Cubs would look to fill center field by trading for a veteran, and later suggested they might be looking at Ellsbury (assuming some salary relief from NY). What do you think? Even if Fowler becomes too expensive and they don’t believe Heyward will be a plus CF, I don’t see why they would tie themselves to a declining hitter with four years left on his contract.
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12:26 |
: They *might* look at Ellsbury, but they’re going to need a lot to be eaten – they’re not stupid.
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12:26 |
: I still suspect they’re going wait-and-see with Heyward CF as the fallback
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12:27 |
: In your estimation, what’s your best guess as to what the Dodgers end up with at 2nd and 3rd base in 2017?
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12:27 |
: I suspect they bring back Justin Turner in the end and use Kiké
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12:27 |
: Let’s assume Sale is traded in the next few weeks, is it a mistake to hold onto Quintana? It seems like a mistake to hold onto him. I understand he has four years of control versus three for Sale, but why keep him if Sale goes??
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12:28 |
: Mostly because the White Sox prefer to be the Diamondbacks or pre-summer Padres.
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12:29 |
: The FA market is weak enough and the lack of big help in the minors means, I think the jig is up in Chicago.
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12:29 |
: Out of time for half-measures. It’s like your house being on fire and deciding to just put out half of it.
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12:29 |
: What would you think about the Astros going trading for Lorenzo Cain or AJ Pollack as the last piece of their puzzle?
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12:29 |
: Always depends on the price. Not sure Arizona in mood to sell low on Pollock.
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12:30 |
: Nor is KC likely to go full rebuild until after 2017
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12:30 |
: Is Matt Harvey’s career over? 🙁
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12:30 |
: Wouldn’t say that
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12:30 |
: The Padres, Athletics, and Rays are apparently all interested in Thames. Doesn’t the Rays make the most sense for him? Hard to showcase his donger power in pitcher stadiums.
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12:32 |
: I should note that ZiPS translates Thames KBO performance at 240/313/464. He’s nothing more than a lotto ticket for a team that can’t do better.
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12:32 |
: Hi Dan, how do you think officiating in the MLB compares to that which occurs in the NBA/NFL?
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12:32 |
: Actually might be better since there are fewer judgment calls.
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12:32 |
: How can you justify the people’s insistence of Cleveland changing their logo/team name, yet every year around this time literally millions of innocent turkeys are murdered in the name of a “tradition” of giving thanks with those same Native People that we are systematically eradicating by ignoring them and their plight? Eno said that it’s a false equivalence of Turkeys and Humans, but if you go back far enough we share a common ancestor.
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12:32 |
: If you go back far enough *everything* has a common ancestor.
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12:33 |
: Hey Dan. Now that the AFL is over and done with, how much importance do you think the average team assigns to a prospect’a performance in that league? On the one hand, it’s less than 100 PA for pretty much everyone, and on the other it’s nominally against the best competition the minors have to offer. How much should teams take away from a great performance in the AFL, or a terrible one?
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12:33 |
: I think they look more for specific developmental things than the performance itself.
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12:33 |
: Do the A’s and Marlins match up on a Ozuna trade?
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12:33 |
: Doesn’t seem all that practical
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12:33 |
: Napoli’s loss will be big for the Indians.. you see anyone they might target in his stead?
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12:33 |
: Really, Napoli wasn’t actually all that good.
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12:34 |
: So, once and for all, Dan…where is Andrew McCutchen in 2017, and whatt did the Bucs get out of it?
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12:35 |
: I don’t think the Bucs trade him this year, though I think they should
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12:35 |
: Gleyber Torres is destroying the AFL. Yankees have the best system in baseball?
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12:35 |
: They certainly have a case. I’d actually say yes.
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12:35 |
: How impressed are you by Frankie Montas? Also, the Hill/Reddick trade was highway robbery; all of Holmes, Montas, and Cotton have looked exceptional since coming over.
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12:35 |
: I’m a Montas fan.
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12:35 |
: In a potential White Sox-Nats trade involving Chris Sale, what would the Sox have to include to get Trea Turner along with Giolito, Robles and Fedde?
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12:35 |
: I don’t think this is happening.
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12:36 |
: It just doesn’t match up to the Nats strengths and weaknesses.
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12:37 |
: True or false, the Braves late season surge will end up being one of the worse things that could have happened to them?
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12:37 |
: True, if they do take it too seriously.
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12:37 |
: But Atlanta’s in a very dangerous place.
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12:37 |
: How many team would be interested in ChiSox Abreau?
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12:37 |
: There would be a good bit of interest
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12:37 |
: Theo has $50 million to spend and a roster without glaring holes. If you are Theo, what are you spending on?
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12:37 |
: This isn’t a good year to have $50 million to spend.
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12:37 |
: Mostly tinkering.
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12:37 |
: Not trading Freddie Freeman is unjustifiable right? What kind of haul could they get for him?
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12:38 |
: They’d get a lot for him, and I think they really need to.
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12:38 |
: Yes, it’s literally true the Braves have a chance to compete when they still have him
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12:39 |
: But what it comes down to is it only take a year or two of rebuilding and Freeman bringing no real practical utility to really tank a player’s value
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12:39 |
: Rangers’ FO is trying to sustain consistent, sustained results over the long haul, vs the now-popular tank-and-rebuild model of BOS, CHC, PHI, ATL etc. Is their approach even possible any more?
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12:40 |
: It is possible wh en you have a good MLB system and a good minor league system simultaneously.
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12:40 |
: The problem is when teams try to do it without having one of those things first.
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12:40 |
: Orioles offseason looks to head on the same direction as always. Sign fringe players, wait for prices to drop and jump on those left in late January. My guess is O’s bring in Iannetta, Suanders, Bourne and Bass on one year deals and let Wieters/Trumbo walk. Very post-2014-esque. Do you see this senario as most likely or would you peg last years spending spree likely to continue?
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12:40 |
: What would you want to spend spree on practically speaking outside of Cespedes?
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12:40 |
: What does ZiPS do with Thames’s Korea line?
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12:41 |
: We have a decent number of churning at various levels. I get roughly AA for KBO
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12:41 |
: If the MLBPA was hypothetically interested in shortening service time in the next CBA, would they be able to get it done without a strike?
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12:41 |
: No
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12:41 |
: Or they’d have to give up something MAJOR
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12:41 |
: If the rosters expand to 26, who benefits most? Part-time players and people with big platoon splits?
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12:42 |
: People who like watching stupid relief pitcher shuffling
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12:42 |
: Hamels w/ 4 yrs control netted Eickhoff, Thompson, Alfaro, Williams…seems like good comp for Sale w/ 3yrs control…solid return but hardly in realm of Giolito/Moncada/Benintendi/etc…is this because Phils opted for diversification whereas Sox might want top-end talent?
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12:42 |
: Hamels had signifricant salary considerations.
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12:42 |
: Hamels had considerable surplus value, but that money still counts.
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12:42 |
: What are you expecting the Red Sox to do this winter? Am I wrong to think it might be a lot less than what a lot of people seem to be expecting–something like signing a power guy to a short-term contract and picking up some relievers?
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12:42 |
: That’s about what I expect.
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12:43 |
: Because since the market sucks, everybody’s doing less than what some people seem to expect.
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12:43 |
: Brandon Phillips and Mike Lorenzen to the Dodgers for Yasiel Puig.. who says no to the deal?.
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12:43 |
: Dodgers. They may not be happy with Puig’s performance, but there’s nothing really interesting to them.
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12:44 |
: How can we Orioles fans make Adam Jones see reason? He needs to shift to RF soon (like now) and let the Orioles bring in a more capable CF (I.e. Jay, Gomez)
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12:44 |
: Not sure I’d include Jay as an example. I don’t think it’s happening.
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12:44 |
: I don’t see the Red Sox ever trading Moncada. Not only is he a top prospect, but Dombrowski seems like the kind of guy to fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy, and they payed around $62 million to acquire Moncada.
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12:45 |
: In this case, it wasn’t his cost so I doubt he’d be concerned that much about that personally.
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12:45 |
: I think they hang onto Moncada simply because it looks like he panned out.
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12:46 |
: What would a Cabrera to BOS trade look like, if the Sox used Sandoval’s remains $58mm as salary ballast?
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12:46 |
: I’m not sure Tigers are at the point that they do a Cabrera trade that another team could justify
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12:47 |
: Since he’s no longer on a team, is/was ZiPS a fan of Jon Singleton?
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12:47 |
: It never really liked him more than a high 90s/low 100s OPS+ guy
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12:47 |
: The Yankees are talking about adding Jason Hammel. Given his propensity for long-balls and the short porch, is this an obviously bad match?
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12:47 |
: Wouldn’t be my pick.
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12:47 |
: What is the most likely reason the Cubs don’t win the NL Central in ’17?
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12:47 |
: Chance. Lots of things can go wrong easily.
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12:48 |
: Do players bring back bigger returns in the off-season or at the deadline?
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12:48 |
: Depends.
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12:48 |
: Vlad, HoF or not (in your opinion)?
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12:48 |
: Yes
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12:48 |
: But the BBWAA vote is ridiculously poor, so who the hell knows
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12:49 |
Kiki Cuyler: 53 career fWAR I have no idea who Kiki Cuyler was until I looked that up |
12:49 |
: Cuyler was a very significant player!
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12:49 |
: Would adding Ian Desmond on a five year pact be wisest free agent investment Orioles could make this offseason? Could play role in OF in 2017 then transition to 3B once Hardy leaves as FA. Would provide a leadoff presence and menace on the basepaths.
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12:49 |
: Not sure if wisest. I’d be uneasy at 5 years
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12:49 |
: Your guess to where Fowler ends up?
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12:49 |
: I think he ends up back in Chicago
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12:49 |
: Listen, I think we can all agree that Bryant was and is great, but Markakis not receiving one vote? Blasphemy!
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12:49 |
: Regarding Hernandez at 2nd for the Dodgers, do you see him as a full time player or in some sort of platoon? I didn’t see a lot to be excited for from him this past year
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12:50 |
: He showed a lot before 2016
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12:50 |
: If you squint could you see Scherzer in the HOF?
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12:50 |
: In a world in which actually deserving to be in the HOF was a significant factor in induction, sure.
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12:51 |
: But we’re in this dumb world in which Mussina/Schilling, easy first-balloters, aren’t going to get in by the BBWAA vote.
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12:52 |
: There are simply too many voters that aren’t really analysis people or expert baseball history people.
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12:53 |
: Award votes *tend* to be somewhat better as many of the local chairpersons will pick the members that are inclined to do a good job.
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12:53 |
: Though that’s hardly perfect.
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12:53 |
: The vote still needs serious reforms, even if they end up with me being less likely to vote than I currently am
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12:53 |
: What would a WSox trade for Abreu look like? Top 50 pitching prospect plus a could of lottery tickets?
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12:53 |
: That’s probably about right. Back part of top 50
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12:54 |
: what are teams going to do with a 26th roster spot
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12:54 |
: Relief
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12:54 |
: Don’t think the Nats Zips have come out yet, but at this point should Ryan Zimmerman be a bench player? Could fill in at 1b and LF (and maybe RF), but a lot of $$ to ride the pine.
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12:54 |
: Nats ZiPS are first team so no sense in leaking yet!
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12:54 |
: Cistulli, Devourer of Light and Goodness, already has them for instance.
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12:54 |
: Any update on David Szymborski’s shopping habits? Has he ordered anything interesting lately, or are you expecting a flood of confirmation emails next week following Black Friday and Cyber Monday?
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12:55 |
: David Szymborski has not ordered anything with my email address recently.
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12:55 |
: Don’t know if it’s because he figured out or if he read the gift card.
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12:55 |
: For those unware, David Szymborski in North Carolina has been ordering Nerf gun from Wal-Mart and Amazon with my Gmail address that he thinks are his.
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12:56 |
: So I reset his Amazon password, hit cancel on his nerf order, then re-ordered with his card with a gift note informing him that DSzymborski@gmail.com is not his email address.
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12:56 |
: If Turkey came in a cheese-wiz spray bottle, and was a frothy paste of poultry…would you try it?
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12:56 |
: NO
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12:56 |
: I’d there anything in the Orioles farm system which could entice the Pirates to move Cutch?
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12:56 |
: No.
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12:56 |
: Should the Dbacks trade Segura? Do you see there being a market for him? Dodgers and Yankess stand out.
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12:56 |
: No, but yes.
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12:57 |
: Did Goldschmidt peak or can hold it together this year?
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12:57 |
: May have peaked, but he should still be excellent
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12:57 |
: Next competing team to collapse (i.e. Athletics-2015, Twins, KC-2016)?
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12:57 |
: Blue Jays are in a very dangerous place.
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12:57 |
: Though Tigers will fall apart first.
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12:57 |
: (Which I think they realize)
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12:58 |
: Could they get Benintendi or Moncada + for Freeman?
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12:58 |
: I think Dombrowski would be more willing than the previous crowd
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12:58 |
: Not both of course
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12:58 |
: Lets say the White Sox do a complete tear down and rebuild. Can they get enough in return to immediately have a top 5 farm system by trading all their best MLB assets?
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12:58 |
: I think yes.
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12:58 |
The Cubs chose not to take a 71 win team and try to add on it with no farm in place. |
12:58 |
: Hamels came with Matt Harrison too.
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12:59 |
: What should the Cardinals do with Alex Reyes to start 2017?
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12:59 |
: Rotation, period.
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12:59 |
: Joe Panik posted an 89 wRC+ in 2016 with a .245 BABIP. This was propped up by the worst batting average on line drives in baseball. In 2015 panik posted a 136 wRC+ on the back of a .330 BABIP. Do you take the over or under on his depth charts projected 104 wRC+?
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12:59 |
: That looks about right honestly
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12:59 |
: Assuming full health, who wins NL East next year? Mets or Nats?
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12:59 |
: Nats still
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12:59 |
: Turkey or ham?
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12:59 |
: On Thanksgiving it’s gotta be Turkey
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12:59 |
: Why did the Yankees cut Eovaldi? Which team ends up with Eo?
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1:00 |
: Would love to see him end upw ith the Pirates
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1:00 |
: Though the Cubs will probably get him and turn him into a Cy Young guy himself just bc
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1:00 |
: If you REALLY squint, could you see Darnell Sweeney in the Hall of Fame? Maybe one day?
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1:00 |
: I’m sure he can buy a ticket.
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1:00 |
: Morals clause important to HOF voting, or should be ignored?
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1:01 |
: I wouldn’t mind it if it was applied fairly by the people who take it highly seriously
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1:01 |
: Why does anyone still give a crap about anything the BBWAA votes for?
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1:01 |
: Because baseball is cool and we want there to be awards worthy of the people who play baseball
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1:01 |
: Can you name one player more underrated than Nolan Arenado?
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1:02 |
: Wasn’t he second in the All_Star voting for NL 3B? That suggests to me that he’s at least rated now.
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1:02 |
: How much does it break your heart that Kershaw put up 6.5 wins in 150 innings?
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1:02 |
: Much
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1:03 |
: This may seem weird, but Mike Trout is underrated.
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1:03 |
: There are a lot of people who think he’s just a regular star.
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1:03 |
: Though I wouldn’t call him most underrated
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1:05 |
: Most underrated right now? May be someone like Kyle Seager or Christian Yelich. Maybe Starling Marte?
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1:05 |
: It’s always a tricky Q because it depends on who is doing the rating
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1:05 |
: you were able to get first initial and last name at gmail? Good job.
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1:05 |
: It’s not like my last name is Smith
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1:05 |
: I had a super low ICQ number too!
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1:05 |
: Why the new like and dislike graphic in the comments section? I loved the previous one.
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1:05 |
: Ask Daves, not me!@
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1:05 |
: Who has the reputation as the biggest butthole in MLB?
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1:05 |
: Pierzynski
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1:06 |
: Opinions on Civ 6?
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1:06 |
: Fun game, well put together.
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1:06 |
: The worker management kinda annoys me though
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1:06 |
: I feel too often I’m simply micromanaging those dumbass little builders instead of working on my grand strategy
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1:06 |
: Have you tried the turkey and gravy flavored potato chips, or the stuffing and gravy flavored ones?
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1:06 |
: No
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1:07 |
: Porcello, Cy Young winner. Still sounds weird. Worst choice ever, or worstest choice ever?
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1:07 |
: He had a leigitimately excellent season
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1:07 |
: In the tumult of this year’s election cycle and its aftermath I’ve lost track with what’s happening with the world chess championship in NYC between Carlsen and Karajakin. I don’t play anymore but am still interested. Have u followed it and which player do you like the most?
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1:07 |
: I’m really behind on chess right now.
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1:07 |
: Though I’ve been following the draws
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1:08 |
: Nolan Arenado wasn’t even a finalist for the NL MVP! COREY SEAGER was there over him! This is the first time since 2010 (Joey Votto) where the MVP lost both the Gold Glove AND Silver Slugger! Oh…I forgot…he plays for Colorado…my bad…
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1:09 |
: You do realize that Seager’s fWAR/bWAR average was higher than Arenado’s?
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1:09 |
: You can make a case that he could’ve been top 3, but you can also make a reasonable one he was 4 or 5
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1:09 |
: How does a fan deal with impending mediocrity?
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1:09 |
: Alcohol
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1:09 |
: Pierzynski over Papelbon?
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1:09 |
: Pierzynski more disliked by players
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1:09 |
: is ghandi still an ass in civ?
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1:10 |
: He hasn’t backed up his words WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS for me yet
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1:10 |
: Speed round Westworld theory: Everybody is a human. Advances in neurological manipulation (or even hypnosis) make it possible to control others. Hosts can die over and over again thanks to Star Trek like advances in medicine. How plausible is this on a scale of 1 to Bo Derek?
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1:10 |
: I don’t know, it’s on my viewing list but haven’t watched yte
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1:10 |
: Does Keuchel have a bounce back year?
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1:10 |
: Yes
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1:10 |
: Avid baseball fans like Cistulli will clean up HoF voting once he gets his 10 years in
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1:10 |
: The nerdy analysis types are still a miniority, even among new members
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1:11 |
: How can anybody stand hearthstone with all the dumbass animation delays an similar nonsense? I watched a friend play one game and wanted to smash his tablet over his head.
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1:11 |
: I’m not necessarily diminishing Theo’s talent for building from the bottom, but could he succeed to the level he did in BOS/CHC, if he had the financial restrictions of say TB/OAK/KC/etc?
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1:12 |
: It would’ve been tougher, but I think he’d have been successful
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1:12 |
: My mistake for coming to FanGraphs for actual baseball analysis. I forgot all you do here is numbers. RE: Arenado/Seager
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1:12 |
: Then make a case
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1:12 |
: You just made an assertion.
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1:12 |
: The numbers indicate both are reasonable.
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1:12 |
: here’s the thing: Baseball games are solely decided by definable events within the game.
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1:13 |
: You argued that it was an outrage an added no argument, no insight, no point of view, that would indicate Arenado’s some horrible snub.
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1:13 |
: What if the fan in question who must deal with impending mediocrity is 18 and also does not want to drink?
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1:14 |
: Pot?
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1:14 |
: Can a former MLB player become a voting member of the BBWAA?
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1:14 |
: No reason they can’t
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1:14 |
: Dirk Hayhurst isn’t in the BBWAA but I expect he’ll be at some point
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1:16 |
: I’m not seeing any ex-players on the badge list
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1:16 |
: but there’s no rule against it
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1:16 |
: Would you eat a “smoothie” of mashed potatoes, gravy, and turkey? Also it comes in a cheese-wiz spray bottle, and it’s just cheese flavored.
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1:16 |
: No
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1:16 |
: why are you epople so gross?
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1:16 |
: That was a joke, because Carson not watching baseball despite being employed by a baseball blog is humorous, also you hate Cistulli. Get with the program Dan
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1:17 |
: What’s your outlook on A.J. Reed? Is there a middle of the order hitter there, or has a fatal flaw been exposed?
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1:17 |
: I think people too quickly take small sample sizes seriously
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1:17 |
: See Nelson Cruz 2006/2007
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1:18 |
: Folks that complain about “numbers” and “math” are the folks that can’t understand “numbers” and “math”.
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1:18 |
: I feel for you Dan, I recently tried debating that Andrew Miller is just as good as Britton, and on some teams, Miller might be the better option. So many orange tinted glasses throwing around unverifable theories. It dan get frustrating.
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1:18 |
: The Cy Young thing with Britton got me on a lot of O’s fans ship lists
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1:18 |
: I feel like Dirk Hayhurst will be the type of voter that people DON’T want in the BBWAA. He’ll use his vote to just make a point of some kind.
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1:18 |
: I don’t think he would
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1:18 | : Best life ever: |
1:19 |
: Already a better eye than Jeff Francoeur
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1:19 |
: If a player became a voting BBWAA member, would they be allowed to vote regarding their admission to the HOF? Seems like a big conflict of interest.
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1:19 |
: It’s extremely unlikely to happen.
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1:19 |
: Because you have to be in the BBWAA for 10 years
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1:19 |
: And you’re not going to get in when you just start writing
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1:20 |
: A player who retires at 40 would probably have to work *full-time* as a writer for 15 years before they get their vote
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1:20 |
: Is Pat Jordan in the BBWAA?
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1:20 |
: Nto on the badget list
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1:20 |
: Still waiting on a real answer to my turkey question. There’s outrage over a team mascot yet the actual people the mascot represents are being basically ignored. Plus the turkeys are practically slaves their entire live yet you’ll eat one because you want to continue a tradition of being thankful for being able to mass murder other animals for your pleasure?
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1:21 |
: I’m not getting into political-type Qx
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1:21 |
: I hate numbers, there’s like too many of them and stuff
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1:21 |
: what do you expect from pablo sandoval next year
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1:21 |
: Not much.
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1:21 |
: What do you think of twitter suspending a bunch of alt-right accounts that weren’t harassing anybody and the UK shutting down a speech by Milo? I don’t agree with them, but shutting them up that way bothers me a lot more.
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1:21 |
: Honestly I’m uneasy with this sort of thing. You fight liars with truth and assholes with indifference.
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1:22 |
: Blocking people for awful opinions rather than when their *conduct* demands it is something that makes me uncomfortable.
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1:23 |
: Especially when the rules for awful, nasty opinions they block seem to be fairly arbitrary
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1:24 |
: Do you gu ys have to get into political t ype Qs?
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1:24 |
: Furthest you’ve traveled specifically for food?
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1:24 |
: Not far, it’s usually secondary
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1:24 |
: Would you eat an entire canister of cheese-wiz to stop getting Markakis questions?
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1:24 |
: I think so
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1:26 |
: Did you know that there are the same amount of numbers in between 1 and 2 as there are between 1.1 and 1.9?
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1:26 |
: There are actually degrees of infinity. If we’re getting into set theory, we’re going above my pay grade
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1:26 |
: Would you allow Bundy to throw the cutter, or just forego that pitch ever being a part of his arsenal?
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1:26 |
: Former.
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1:26 |
: I forgot fWAR and bWAR were the only stats that matter. I’m claiming Arenado should be in the top 3 over Seager. You can’t just throw two numbers out and call that YOUR case. I think you need to make a case too.
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1:26 |
: That’s the default case – you have to demonstrate why numbers are wrong.
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1:27 |
: Then how does one fight a lying asshole?
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1:27 |
: Depends.,
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1:27 |
: Going back, *you’re* the one saying we should ignore performance metrics. State a case or bugger off.
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1:27 |
: Szymbo Slice! How are you doing my friend?
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1:27 |
: Fine and dandy
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1:27 |
: Any chance you’ll host a Baltimore Fangraphs meetup next year?
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1:28 |
: I’m not really an organizing t yep
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1:28 |
: Rank the superheroes: Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Iron Man, Reid Fleming
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1:28 |
: 1. Drake LaRoche
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1:29 |
: 2. All other superheroes except for
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1:29 |
: Last place – superheroes in dentist comics about dental hygeine
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1:29 |
: hygiene
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1:29 |
: Can the Dbacks move Tomás this offseason or are they stuck with that contract?
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1:29 |
: He ain’t going nowhere.
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1:29 |
: If the Alt-right were to team up with both the ctrl-right and the del-right, do you think they’re be able to kill the current process?
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1:29 |
: heh
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1:29 |
: More satisfying: picking a scab or a good poop?
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1:29 |
: Poop?
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1:29 |
: You people are weird.
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1:30 |
: Top 3 old school Nintendo games?
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1:30 |
: my favorite three NES games are Final Fantasy I, Destiny of an Emperor, and River City Ransom
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1:30 |
: Who would win in a fight: Markakis or a canister of cheese-wiz?
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1:30 |
: Well, Markakis
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1:30 |
: Who won the Cole Hamels trade 2 years later?
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1:30 |
: Both teams got what they needed.
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1:30 |
: Why do you hate Cheez Whiz?
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1:30 |
: Wiz isn’t quite can cheese
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1:30 |
: Can’t believe I missed the opportunity to pose the “player as BBWAA voter” question in terms of Nick Markakis
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1:30 |
: I hate numbers because they led to Fagerstrom leaving us.
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1:30 |
: Did you watch Lesnar-Goldberg? Brilliant, ridiculous or both?
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1:30 |
: I think ridiculous
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1:31 |
: Fun to see Goldberg, but it seems crappy, with so much underutilized talent, to bring in a 50-year-old dude who hadn’t wrestled in a decade to squash Lesnar
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1:31 |
: Markakis
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1:31 |
: Steve Bartman should throw out the first pitch next year . . . for the Cardinals
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1:31 |
: Did you watch Bill Simmons’ show? Did you like it?
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1:31 |
: I have not
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1:31 |
: If you were to try to replicate the outcome of a particularly horned pig gliding down a snowy mountain, would you call it a…sim boar ski?
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1:31 |
Nolan Arenado 124 wRC+ Put Seager in Coors for half his games and you probably get a .400 wOBA |
1:31 |
: You would be dandy….you digital dandy….
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1:31 |
: Have you accepted Drake Laroche as your lord and savior?
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1:31 |
: Of course
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1:32 |
: The questions are coming from inside your house!
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1:32 |
: You firetruckers better not be eating my brisket in the fridge. Already had galileo eating some of it.
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1:32 |
: Do you play Clash Royale?
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1:32 |
: No
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1:32 |
: How much more money would Trumbo make as a free agent in the 90s, when people got paid for HRs more directly without looking as much at the other stats?
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1:32 |
: Well, if you had 90s GMs, a lot
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1:32 |
: Also, did you ever play Ikaruga or Radiant Silvergun?
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1:32 |
: a lot
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1:32 |
: Rank the following thanksgiving side dishes: mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, stuffing, cranberry sauce, green bean casserole.
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1:33 |
: mashed potatoes, stuffing, cranberry, green beans……………………………………………………………………..styrofoam peanuts accidentally cooked………………………………………………………………..sweet potatoes
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1:33 |
: Do you think the MLB will ever go to Mexico City or maybe a more northern city in Mexico? Is the altitude that bad?
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1:33 |
: Not for a long time
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1:33 |
: we’ve seen the cycle of splitters, then sliders, and now curves. What’s the next trendy secondary pitch that will catch on/ make a big comeback? I guess it would have to be changeups right?
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1:33 |
: Palmball!
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1:33 |
: Civ 6 is disappointingly easy, the AI still can’t figure out 1UPT.
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1:33 |
: Civ games aren’t known for amazing AI, sadly
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1:33 |
: Any chance of the Braves inviting Julio Franco to spring training? He played 7 games in the United Baseball League in 2014.
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1:33 |
: Probably better defensively than Kemp
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1:33 |
: It is funny that Deflategate ended up doing more damage to Bill Simmons than the Patriots
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1:33 |
: How long until Ellsbury’s entire stat line is composed of catcher’s interferences?
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1:33 |
: I don’t like the name Chuncey.
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1:34 |
: Thanksgiving was already last month.
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1:34 |
: Im learning the genetic algorithim in class at the moment how can i make this interesting by applying it to baseball?
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1:34 |
: I’m not sure
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1:34 |
: Anyway, thanks for coming everyone!
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1:34 |
: As a reminder, you can find my work at ESPN.com, chats and projections here at FanGraphs, and DSzymborski on Twitter.
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1:34 |
: Favorite word that sounds naughty, but isn’t? (Mine is skillet)
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1:34 |
: moist
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1:34 |
: Bye, not August. Thanks for chatting!
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Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.
A whole chat without a question about Gsellman and Lugo. Wow.