Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 2/20/26
| 2:08 |
: Sorry, technical diffculties
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| 2:08 |
: In your 2026 prospects article, you mentioned that Zips is aware of postseason performance. I agree with this approach. Can you share how you decided to include this data? It seems to me that many other projection systems do not include post season information.
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| 2:08 |
: I just tested it and it was slightly helpful!
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| 2:09 |
: I mean it wasn’t going to be a game-changer since it’s not enough games
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| 2:09 |
: But isn’t it weird that we don’t “count” the most important games against the best quality opposition?
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| 2:09 |
: So, naturally, I tested for it
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| 2:09 |
: Dan! Real live baseball is going to be broadcast today! Do you plan on watching anything? Any particular spring training position battles that have piqued your interest?
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| 2:10 |
: Too early for brain to work! I’ve been finishing up a piece and am working on a mailbag question, so haven’t even LOOKED at the schedule
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| 2:10 |
: Hey Dan! Didn’t you once say that one of your close relatives was Lithuanian? I went to a concert at The Embassy of the Republic of Lithuania last night and the ambassador was kind enough to take a selfie with me, my brother and the piano player. My Lithuanian was poor but good enough to get by.
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| 2:11 |
: No, I have two German grandparents, a Polish grandparent, and a Ukrainian grandparent. Oddly enough, the Ukrainian grandparent was of Sephardi descent, and got there FROM Spain
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| 2:11 |
: How much does Westburg’s injury impact Baltimore’s ZiPS?
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| 2:11 |
: Not by a ton, though it does affect their depth
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| 2:11 |
: ZiPS likes Blaze Alexander. Not enough to be a full replacement for Westburg, but to keep it from being too painful
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| 2:11 |
: Fist timer !!
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| 2:12 |
: I won’t make the 12-year-old joke
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| 2:12 |
: Will Meyer replacing Clark have any significant impact on the CBA negotiations?
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| 2:12 |
: PROBABLY not
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| 2:12 |
: My impression is that Meyer is a fighter (in a good way), but he was always going to be a highly influential fighter, I believe
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| 2:12 |
: At the end, it’ll still come down to what the players are willing to do
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| 2:13 |
: Long term in mind, Is Max Clark or Kevin Mcgonigle considered to be superior prospect ? Is Clark built more on hype ? What are there major league comparables looks wise ?
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| 2:13 |
: I’ll say McGonigle since he hasn’t conclusively shown he ISNT a shortstop
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| 2:13 |
: We reject your tariffs Dan
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| 2:13 |
: Any thoughts on the Supreme Court ruling?
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| 2:13 |
: Hey, I’m a free trade guy!
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| 2:13 |
: Haven’t read the decision
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| 2:15 |
: My whole ethos is in favor of voluntary interactions between freely consenting parties
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| 2:15 |
: First they came for our hamates, and I did nothing…
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| 2:15 |
: Couldn’t AI help you with your ZIPS stuff — there has to be something you could offload to it, right?
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| 2:15 |
: I really only use it to check code. If it could help with something, I’m not clever enough to know what it is
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| 2:16 |
: See, for me, AI isn’t a work tool
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| 2:17 |
: it’s a tool for two purposes: One, I like to simply test what it CAN do competently, out of sheer curiosity. And two, to make amusing stuff that I can’t do on my own to amuse, well, myself
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| 2:18 |
: Like, I can write a tune and lyrics and play a piano, and even enough music theory that I can write a passable fugue, but I don’t have a band, and my singing voice is about that of a walrus having its neck slashed by a serial killer
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| 2:18 |
: Dan, I’m confused about the Off stat on the zips projections. Does it stand for total offensive stats combined vs. others?
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| 2:19 |
: It’s just offensive runs relative to overall average, calculated in the way FanGraphs does
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| 2:19 |
: Once Yu Darvish retires, do I have to change my screenname?
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| 2:19 |
: I mean, if he doesn’t have to change his name, I don’t think you need to
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| 2:19 |
: Trying to come up with other hall-of-fame starters who made playoff appearances the previous year that would still be unsigned as spring training begins… what’s up with Max?
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| 2:19 |
: Problem is that he’s not obviously good
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| 2:19 |
: Do you have any info concerning the delay in players obtaining visas to return for spring training? I.e. Ballesteros, Bethancourt?
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| 2:19 |
: I do not
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| 2:19 |
: How many gms do the Tigers win the Central by??
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| 2:19 |
: 5
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| 2:20 |
: Which teams do you think have the most impactful ZiPS-like system for their own internal use?
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| 2:20 |
: This, I really can’t say, simply because a number of teams directly use ZiPS
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| 2:20 |
: and the ones that don’t haven’t volunteered anything to me
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| 2:20 |
: Well, mostly
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| 2:20 |
: Have you ever played a board game with Keith Law?
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| 2:20 |
: I have not. Not that I would be opposed to it!
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| 2:21 |
: Would’ve been fun at those ESPN conferences I used to go to for baseball writers, but Keith was never at the ones I went to
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| 2:22 |
: Do you remember Wander Javier being THE Wander before Wander Franco? Pepperidge Farms remembers…
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| 2:22 |
: Wander Suero was a World Series champion!
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| 2:22 |
: The postseason performance that ZiPS is aware of includes minor league postseason, right?
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| 2:22 |
: yes
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| 2:23 |
: If Johnathon Long of the Cubs has a good spring training while Tyler Austin scuffles, what are the chances they break camp with Long instead?
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| 2:23 |
: I think fairly low
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| 2:24 |
: Austin’s going to be a role player, and if you like what Long does, you want him playing full time
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| 2:24 |
: How do we move the rhetoric of the sports fans away from all conclusions either being “unprovenz” and/or “overpaidz(!)”? What was the point of the Moneyballz era lol?
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| 2:24 |
: We’re better there than 20 years ago!
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| 2:24 |
: Thoughts on baseball in the Olympics now that the WBC has a decent foothold?
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| 2:24 |
: Is there any gas station food that you trust?
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| 2:24 |
: dangit yu, I’m going to have to answer other Qs soon!
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| 2:25 |
: I was never big on Olympics baseball. I think the WBC is better than Olympics baseball would be
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| 2:25 |
: and Olympics come at wrong time of the year
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| 2:26 |
: Frankly, I like seeing sports at the olympics that ARENT the big sports
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| 2:26 |
: And baseball is the sport that probalby gets the least benefit
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| 2:26 |
: Since MLB is already an international league
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| 2:26 |
: Why are we all so docile and submissive to power? Its tragicomic when you consider how badass a standard issue westerner sees themselves
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| 2:27 |
: The cushier you are, the easier it is to go along with things
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| 2:27 |
: Which is more awful “chili,” Skyline or Gold Star? This assumes you’ve subjected your taste buds to both, which I understand could be a very incorrect assumption.
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| 2:27 |
: I have tried both, and I disliked Gold Star slightly less
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| 2:27 |
: They should let Dan Szymborski play the organ for a game at Wrigley once.
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| 2:27 |
: I could go for that!
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| 2:27 |
: I’ve played full pipe organs with pedalboard
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| 2:28 |
: and when I was in college, they’d let me play the big pipe organ in the chapel if nothing was going on in there
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| 2:29 |
: though by “let me” I think it’s just that nobody actually OBJECTED to it. Because now that I think of it, I didn’t really ask for permission
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| 2:29 |
: Hi Dan – what does your data infrastructure look like for ZIPS? Do you have a relational database somewhere that you query against or what? Super interested how baseball writers actually work with all the sources etc
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| 2:29 |
: I do keep a proper relational database!
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| 2:29 |
: But I use excel and visual basic for a lot of stuff that comes from it
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| 2:30 |
: As analysts go, I’m actually surprisingly low-tech
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| 2:30 |
: For your ZiPS lookbacks, do you sort your misses by injury v. non-injury?
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| 2:30 |
: I do
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| 2:30 |
: How you feeling about George Valera, the Comeback Kid?
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| 2:31 |
: i’m wait and see. it wasn’t like he played a LOT in 2025
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| 2:31 |
: this will probably get stones thrown at me, but as a coder i find AI extremely overrated
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| 2:32 |
: The thing is, AI is a lot less popular with the public. Because unlike me, the vast majority don’t use it for personal amusement
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| 2:33 |
: Like, I can have AI write a Broadway villain song for FanGraphs. But if I were funding an *actual* Broadway production, I’d fund ACTUAL songwriters
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| 2:34 |
: Worried about Freddy Peralta regression? Crazy BABIP and LOB numbers last year that I didnt realize- Mets Fan
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| 2:34 |
: Some, but he should still be really good
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| 2:35 |
: I like chess, as you do. It’s been years, but now that I’m retired, I’ve been watching chess matches between Marshall and Capablanca. How would you rank
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| 2:35 |
: I like those old chess matches
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| 2:35 |
: Players used to be a lot loosere with their moves
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| 2:35 |
: “Wander Suero was a World Series champion!”
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| 2:35 |
: Is there anything worse about Cincinnati than its chili?
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| 2:35 |
: No, I like hanging out in Cincy quite a lot
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| 2:36 |
: Breaks my heart hearing about Kris Bryant’s back issues, both for his career and his long-term health. Have you done a Zips what-if with him?
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| 2:36 |
: Not yet, I hate to do it too often when a player is still active
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| 2:36 |
: Curling is my favorite winter Olympics sport.
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| 2:36 |
: I’m a sucker for skiing, especially downhill/super g
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| 2:36 |
: Have you practiced typing “April” yet? Are you ready?
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| 2:36 |
: I was born ready
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| 2:36 |
: OK, maybe not, since I was born in June
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| 2:36 |
: What is the Summer Olympics sport equivalent to Curling? Not literally, but a sport no one really plays that enraptures people once every 4 years like Curling does during the Winter games.
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| 2:37 |
: that has the audience? there rpobably isn’t a comparable one
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| 2:38 |
: maybe dressage?
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| 2:38 |
: I see a LOT of horse dancing tweets when summer olympics comes around
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| 2:38 |
: though more people should pay attention to modern pentathlon, because the mix of events is batshit wonderful
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| 2:39 |
: (running, obstacle course, laser pistol, swimming, fencing)
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| 2:39 |
: It’s literally similar to playing Skyrim
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| 2:39 |
: (with archery in for the pistol)
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| 2:39 |
: Is max EV a direct input in ZiPS? I know ZiPS must account for EV in some way, but I’m curious which of max/90th percentile/average it utilizes
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| 2:39 |
: ZiPS uses average and 80th
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| 2:40 |
: Assuming days rest is a decent predictor of relief pitchers’ performance, do teams’ tendencies ever make a meaningful impact in projecting relief performance? For instance, teams less likely to pitch top relievers in consecutive days?
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| 2:40 |
: I haven’t found a large factor
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| 2:40 |
: I’m sorry to ask such a common and probably annoying question, but are we really sure teams value defense at anywhere close to the level that war is implying? Specifically, kind of bad defense at positive positional adjustment positions. ex: Eugenio Suarez signed with the reds as a 1B / DH. Its reasonable to expect him to end somewhere between -10 and -15 runs (defensively) in 2026. As a 3B, at the very least, you could’ve expect him to be around ~0.0 runs in 2026 (he’s had at least 0.0 def as a 3b in each of the last 4 years). Zips has him at a 1.3 war proj with this -15.7 def, and it’d probably be closer to a 3.0 proj if he was at 3b. There are countless other examples, but, if the value of a kind of bad 3B was really that much more than a DH, then wouldn’t Eugenio Suarez get paid more money and sign as a 3B somewhere? There are a bunch of other examples too. He could put up a decent amount of WAR if he only played catcher, and this would line up with a higher salary than the 2M he’s getting paid.
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| 2:40 |
: I tihnk teams are a few runs less generally, but are pretty close to WAR in thinking along these lines
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| 2:40 |
: few runs fewer sorry
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| 2:41 |
: If they weren’t, you wouldn’t see them back off 1B/cOF big deals compared to last generation
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| 2:42 |
: and if they didn’t care about positional value so much, Suarez does way better than 1/15 after his season!
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| 2:42 |
: Anyone who thinks themself badass now is selling something
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| 2:42 |
: Thankfully, I’ve never tried to sell myself as badass
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| 2:42 |
: I have the Doughy Weirdo monetization
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| 2:43 |
: AI is Cliff Notes for Wikipedia.
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| 2:43 |
: AI is funny
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| 2:43 |
: You should have AI write a musical about the Black Sox Scandal. Or the 1998 Home Run chase.
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| 2:43 |
: I think a Moneyball musical would be great fun. Though written by an actual composer of course
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| 2:43 |
: When ZiPS comes up with nearest offensive comps, are there any variables that you force it to match? E.g. handedness, position, age
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| 2:44 |
: nothing is FORCED
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| 2:44 |
: well, except players ahve to actually exist
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| 2:44 |
: I kind of doubt @mindaugas was referring to me, but I believe I’ve mentioned my Lithuanian grandma before in-chat. I only know (and phonetically at that) three words/phrases in Lithuanian: Papyte (grandpa), Mamyte (grandma), and something like “Jazus Madia” (like I said, phonetic) which was what my grandma would say when she was mad at us.
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| 2:45 |
: My german grandmother (born in bremerhaven 1922) had all sorts of german phrases, but she also had phrases that I think she just completely made up
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| 2:45 |
: like if you were getting into trouble, she’d say you were in something like muckesen vonkuckus but I never figured out what that was
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| 2:45 |
: and if something was just too bad, she’d say it was tough schmuggies. I have no idea the etymology of that one either
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| 2:46 |
: She was a secretary for Dönitz and translated for the British at the war trials (which is how my grandfather met her)
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| 2:47 |
: It was really tough when she was well into dementia but could still have conversations. She had no control over what language she was saying things in, which is a problem with someone who could speak four languages (english, german, french, italian) like a native
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| 2:48 |
: Dressage is a good one, especially with people using more modern music for their routines.
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| 2:48 |
: ZiPs and all the other systems are pretty bullish on an Austin Riley rebound, can you offer any insight into that? His last two years were both below his projected performance for this year and there is a clear downward trend in his performance.
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| 2:48 |
: I’m not sure anything particularly insightful I have to offer. Trends aren’t super useful – baselines still work best
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| 2:48 |
: Do you think that Judge’s accelerated awesomeness in his his 30s might be attributable, in part, to the umpires getting better with calling balls and strikes? Per a Bryan Hoch article this week “Since Judge’s first full season in 2017, no hitter has had more called strikes against him on pitches out of the strike zone”. Could it be that the improvements by the umpires have juiced his game a bit?
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| 2:49 |
: I think that’s *too* eleventy dimensional chess
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| 2:49 |
: Is this theoretical fangraphs villain song just theoretical?
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| 2:49 |
: No, I guess I could stick it on my weird bandcamp
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| 2:50 |
: Or could just link it directly
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| 2:51 |
: 1st O’s home run, in the books.
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| 2:51 |
: should exhibition games be considered the books?
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| 2:51 |
: maybe the pamphlets?
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| 2:51 |
: How are the cats? Round here, right now Penne is on the box of CDs that Mango likes to loaf on, waiting for snacks. Earlier Mango jumped up there with him and they fought a little which made me very apprehensive.
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| 2:52 |
: Pretty good! I adopted a pair of bonded kittens a few weeks ago and I’m working to integrate them with the big cats
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| 2:53 |
: Here’s a better link as I had to do some phonetical corrections of what it did
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| 2:54 |
: Sorry, wrong one https://suno.com/s/XiXI7vydam5ogYhH
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| 2:54 |
: Reading War2D2’s comment makes it seem like Jesus Made is Lithuanian.
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| 2:54 |
: PCA or Riley Greene for 2026 fantasy value?
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| 2:54 |
: Oh, and I love you
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| 2:54 |
: PCA unless OBP league
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| 2:54 |
: And he told me that “Mucks dich nicht, zum Kuckuck!” would be kind of like saying “behave yourself, darn it!” or “don’t stir things up, for heaven’s sake”
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| 2:55 |
: What do you think of Tony Vitello’s comments on his hiring process? It’s a big story in the Bay Area but seems like a big nothing burger. What’re you thoughts
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| 2:57 |
: Nothing burger I think
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| 2:57 |
: Follow up on ZiPS comps: So things like handedness/position are considered as inputs, but ZiPS is okay comping, say, a righty to a lefty if everything else looks similar? Do I have that right?
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| 2:57 |
: Yeah, pretty much
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| 2:57 |
: it WANTS to find the perfect comparison, but that rarely happens
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| 2:58 |
: I use Mahalanobis distance
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| 2:58 |
: If you ever have the misfortune of using Copilot, just type up a random innocuous paragraph and then have it turn it into a poem. The result will make the average book of third grade poetry they print to sell to parents look like Shakespeare.
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| 2:58 |
: Please settle a debate! How “real” do you think something like Sean Manaea’s post-tweak 2024 was, after he overhauled his delivery/mechanics/repertoire midseason? Obvi, he regressed a ton last year, & that seems to be because he was hurt and couldn’t maintain his new lower arm angle/slot. I’m not really asking if you think he’ll get back to that form, but rather how “real” you think his 2024 stretch run was, given how dramatic the change was in his delivery, movement, results & periphs, etc. & given that teams seem more willing than ever to invest in that kind of measurable breakout, even in small samples (Also, sorry for being verbose! And VERY appreciated in advance! Thank you!!)
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| 2:58 |
: I’m probably not going to settle the debate because I’m kind of on the fence with Manaea
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| 2:59 |
: Baseball is a game of adjustment and re-adjustment and re-re-adjustment
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| 2:59 |
: I still love you and no I would never use that statement just to get you to answer my question
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| 2:59 |
: I was surprised to see Yeremy Cabrera on the Zips top 100. Surface stats for age and level look good but not great to me. What is Zips seeing under the hood that makes him stand out?
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| 3:00 |
: That’s always a tricky Q, but he was very young, and he had a big uptick in contact rate, which ZiPS sees as a big deal for a guy with speed
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| 3:00 |
: Will we notice any real numbers changes in projections based on a change in dimensions? If so, which things might change meaningfully?
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| 3:01 |
: You’ll notice that the ZiPS projections are more likely to be biased in one direction or another (non-park adjusted ones at least)
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| 3:01 |
: Other than the obvious (USA, DR, Japan, maybe Venezuela) which WBC team would be playoff caliber over 162?
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| 3:01 |
: Ask me next week, I’m still trying to think how I could possibly do an article on this lol
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| 3:01 |
: Italian was my father and uncles’ first language, but my uncle would make up Italian, or mangle, Italian words in his own private language. Think of Snoop’s “shizzle” stuff. Always cracked his brothers up.
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| 3:02 |
: On that note, I do have to go pretty tightly at three today since I have a doctor’s appointment at 3:30
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| 3:02 |
: thanks for coming all!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.