Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 4/2/2020
12:01 |
: And it has begun.
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12:03 |
: I went through all my pictures to find the weariest looking one.
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12:03 |
: Now this is the most frightening one.
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12:04 |
: Rays? You won’t have any expectations of being paid!
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12:04 |
: It’s April?
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12:04 |
: No question, just a hearty thank you to you and everyone at FG for doing the chats and keeping the content coming along. You folks are great, the chats help break up the monotony of the (work) day.
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12:04 |
: Hey Scot!
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: Hi Dan. Wanted to thank all of you for keeping FG running during all of this. Even though I’m never able to attend live chats, they’ve been a major bright spot in providing a sense of community, just through reading them after the fact.
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12:04 |
: BUT THIS IS A LIVE CHAT
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12:05 |
: 5 years down the line, who do you see as the 2-3 best teams in baseball?
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12:05 |
: A lot can happen in five years, so it’s hard to say. So I’d default to the better run teams with money like Dodgers/Yankees as safe bets
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12:05 |
: Do you think they’ll resume ST in Arizona/Florida? Seems like June/July in those climates would be unpleasant – not to mention all the travel involved in getting everyone back out there. How about a couple weeks of cross-town rival series? Astros/Rangers, Cubs/ChiSox, etc?? Seems like you could pair teams off pretty easily to minimize travel.
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12:05 |
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12:06 |
: Give it to us straight, Dan. Is there a chance Fangraphs could fold? How much longer can you guys sustain the site?
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12:06 |
: I think Dave’s statement is what he intended to stay!
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12:06 |
: As said in statement, Dave’s made moves to keep the site from becoming insolvent. What’s forward for us is as who knows as it is for everyone.
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12:06 |
: But I can safely say that everyone’s doing their best to bridge to whenever the next baseball season is.
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12:07 |
: A Dan, A Plan, A Pandemic, imednapanalpanada
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12:07 |
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12:07 |
: bigger hurdle for baseball to resume… domestic travel or daily testing of players/coaches/staff etc?
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12:07 |
: I think it’s the testing.
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12:07 |
: The travel’s not really a big deal.
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12:08 |
: It’s not domestic travel is actually *banned* and teams have their own charter arrangements.
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12:08 |
: Dan, how are your cats adapting to #QuarantineLife??
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12:08 |
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12:09 |
: It’s not like I took the cats out for dinner at restaurants
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12:09 |
: Gonna give Artifact 2.0 a look? They won’t sell cards, so they have my attention. Artifact 1.0 had an awesome draft mode where you didn’t need to own anything, but wow that game died quickly.
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12:09 |
: Yeah, but my expectations are limited.
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12:09 |
: Jose Altuve is running a .000/.000/.000 slash line. Cause to be concerned yet?
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12:09 |
: heh
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12:09 |
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12:09 |
: An open-faced sandwich is just an over-large hors d’oeuvre.
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12:09 |
: My wifi went out during my physics zoom class today rip
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12:09 |
: You should make it a teachable physics lesson!
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12:11 |
: Are you a fan of Krzysztof Penderecki, the Polish composer who recently passed?
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12:12 |
: I was, though not really his early work. Serialism of the Stockhausen variety leaves me cold.
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12:14 |
What Game Should FG Livestream?
Indians at Tigers (8.1% | 5 votes)
Diamondbacks at Cubs (11.4% | 7 votes)
Padres at Rockies (11.4% | 7 votes)
Dodgers at Giants (11.4% | 7 votes)
Marlins at Braves (8.1% | 5 votes)
Rays at Rangers (14.7% | 9 votes)
Astros at Angels (34.4% | 21 votes)
Total Votes: 61
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12:15 |
: I understand wanting to try to play as many games in the 2020 season as possible, even if it means teams playing into October and the playoffs pushing into November; however, how late is too late that it would shorten the off-season too much and thereby compromise the 2021?
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12:15 |
: I think December is probably too long.
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12:16 |
: They can shorten spring training, after all.
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12:16 |
: In the event the 2020 season is cancelled, which players do you think will retire who would have played the season?
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12:17 |
: I think probably Rodney and Colon. Officially axes Zobrist for sure
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12:17 |
: Some of the marginal guys like Vargas
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12:18 |
: What’s the coolest or most memorable thing you’ve seen in person at a ballpark?
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12:18 |
: Charlie Sheen pitching as we rooted for the Indians in Baltimore!
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12:19 |
: Wait, I don’t think I read the piece!
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12:19 |
: I assume that it’s about the A-Rod era M’s?
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12:19 |
: There are a lot osimilarities
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12:19 |
: 5 years from now the only 2-3 teams will be the best 2-3 teams!
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12:19 |
: Be forewarned in the poll – there’s no setting to make the Angels players plunk the Astros
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12:19 |
: Hi Dan, is there a way to figure out which events in a baseball game are the most random (less correlated to trackable skills)? been thinking about the randomness of a shortened season re:team performance, and wondering about where that comes from on the micro-level
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12:19 |
: Well, it’s build into a lot of the projection models.
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12:19 |
: Generally in-play events are the most random
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12:20 |
: If your only choices for food were Skyline chili, or “chili” with beans in it, which would you pick?
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12:20 |
: Chili with beans in it. I rather good beef and bean stew than bad chili
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12:20 |
: I like beef and bean stew. It’s just not chili
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12:20 |
: did u get fooled a lot by april fools day stuff yesterday i did lol
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12:20 |
: I was really annoyed about the dipshit touting the two hour COVID test that fooled news orgs
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12:20 |
: i’m using downtime to play through Dark Souls and Banjo-Kazooie. the tonal whiplash has me on the 15-day IL
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12:20 |
: I would love to buy some merch, but I’m doing anyone any favors by wearing a Small. Y’all gonna have any luck adding merch any time soon?
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12:20 |
: I believe this stuff is in the works.
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12:21 |
: Like every business (well most), a pandemic that stopped our central revenue was quite a surprise!
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12:21 |
: tigers because i want to see how bad they can get wrecked
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12:21 | : best April Fools I saw: |
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: Honestly, I think this should have been an April Fools moratorium year
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12:21 |
: no not Bartolo! We love Bartolo!
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12:21 |
: With the higher volatility of a shorter season, do you see any teams that might have been contending put less of a focus on bringing their prospects up this year? Thinking of guys like a Dustin May, who might have had a spot on the Dodgers roster, but who as an orginization may now value the extra year of service time more
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12:21 |
: I think that’s a very real possibility
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12:23 |
: no the one I linked was actually good ; p
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12:23 |
: Am I good?
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12:23 |
: Maybe!
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12:24 |
: when do you think the all-star game will be scheduled??
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12:24 |
: I don’t think we’ll have one of those this year
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12:24 |
: So July something 2021
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12:26 |
: have u ever been to SSAC
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12:26 |
: I have not!
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12:26 |
: do you think this will affect mike trout??
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12:26 |
: If he gets sick, he’ll just mutate into a more powerful Mike Trout
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12:30 |
: HHHaaa!!!
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12:30 |
: just made a tuna sandwich and added chips on it to give it a crunch
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12:31 |
: I like chips being saparate
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12:31 |
: Dan..Do you think Craig Stammen is upset he has never been described as hot as a pistil?…..Could leave a stigma.
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12:31 |
: <groan>
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12:31 |
: But acceptable in Quaranticity
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12:33 |
: Who are you more suspicious of starting the virus? The Red Sox trading Mookie Betts or the Astros getting people to forget about the scandal
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12:33 |
: Reds I think
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12:33 |
: Red Sox
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12:33 |
: The Astros aren’t that tricky
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12:33 |
: THEY USED A TRASH CAN
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12:33 |
: that’s not exactly evil genius
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12:34 |
: It would be like if in On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, Bond goes to all that trouble to find that Blofeld’s plan is to have his unwitting sleeper agents spit in people’s sandwiches so that it’s super gross
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12:34 |
: Which players would you like to see a TV show about being quarantined together. Rougned Odor and Jose Bautista could be quite entertaining.
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12:35 |
: Trevor Bauer and Justin Verlander
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12:35 |
: is anyone else just re reading all of prospect lists again?
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12:35 |
: More career threatening: valley fever or covid19?
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12:35 |
: Probably valley fever
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12:35 |
: Unless you’re the dude who died
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12:36 |
: I would think we’d have at least *a* COVID fatality in MLB
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12:36 |
: Will Colorado ever trust another fielding prospect in a regular role?
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12:36 |
: They might accidentally fall into competence at some point
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12:36 |
: what’s more likely to end the Great Toilet Paper Shortage–some “price gouging” allowances, or people realize they won’t be crapping themselves all the time from tomorrow to 2024?
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12:36 |
: The latter
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12:36 |
: The crappy toilet paper is already slowly filtering back into stores
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12:36 |
: The last few days, I could have very easily bought store brand or Scott’s
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12:37 |
: The toilet paper that allows this creepy stuff to happen?
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12:37 |
: hoarded for a little while
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12:38 |
: I think that’s literally the closest a toilet paper commercial has come to saying LOOK, THERE’S NO FECAL MATTER HERE
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12:38 |
: lebron or mj
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12:38 |
: Still gotta be mj
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12:38 |
: Do you have more authority over chili than USDA? Sounds like beans are allowed. “6.3.1 Type I, chili with beans. The Type I, chili with beans must meet the definitions and standards of identity or composition (9 CFR § 319.301 and 381.167). 5 Chili with beans contains water, tomato concentrates (21 CFR § 155.191) (tomato paste, tomato sauce, tomato puree, or tomato pulp) tomatoes in juice, concentrated crushed tomatoes6 , corn flour, and chili powder. The Type I, chili with beans may contain lentils, green chilies, cornstarch, textured soy flour, onions, sugar, salt, jalapeño peppers, dehydrated onions, chipotle chili pepper, lime juice concentrate, xanthan gum, soy lecithin, acetic acid, spices, dehydrated garlic, cilantro, and natural flavorings.”
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12:38 |
: USDA is safety, not artistry!
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12:38 |
: what do you think about the draft…I think 10 rounds would be better for the MILB
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12:38 |
: I’m not sure yet
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12:38 |
: Trevor Bauer and anyone, really…
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12:38 |
: Don’t soft petal the Botanist pun
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12:39 |
: I’d ban you, but these chats are slow enough right now
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12:39 |
: Have you watched Tiger King yet?
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12:39 |
: I have not!
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12:39 |
: The memes and references have snuck up so quickly I haven’t had time to move it up in my viewing queue
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12:39 |
: where did you find the tv character match test
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12:40 |
: The website’s being hit hard though
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12:40 |
: where in the constitution did they enumerate the power of the executive branch to determine bean content in stew?
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12:40 |
: BINGO
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12:41 |
: necessary and proper clause
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12:41 |
: UNECESSARY AND IMPROPER
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12:42 |
chili bean exists indicates that it lives in the chili, LET THE BEAN IN ITS HOME DAN!
: The fact that the |
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: The kidney bean doesn’t filter urine
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12:43 |
: What are you more passionate about: beans in chili or what constitutes a sandwich? Which would you give ground on first?
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12:43 |
: Beans in chili
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12:43 |
: If I go out, I can order a sandwich however I want
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12:43 |
: but when a place has chili, your choice is the chili they have
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12:43 |
: they’re not picking out beans for you
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12:44 |
: We need a bean in chili poll. This is democracy.
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12:45 |
Should There Be Beans in Chili
No (37.0% | 10 votes)
Yes and I love Harold Reynolds more than anyone (62.9% | 17 votes)
Total Votes: 27
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12:45 |
: least favorite household chore?
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12:45 |
: anything that involves bleach. I hate the smell of chlorine and it’s impossible to get it completely off your hand
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12:46 |
: best coding languages to learn for aspiring analysts?
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12:46 |
: I’m not a coder!
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12:47 |
: but Python
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12:47 |
: No option for a single bean in my chili?
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12:47 |
: no
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12:47 |
: That is a BAD POLL DAN
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12:47 |
: You’re just mad that YOU LOVE HAROLD REYNOLDS
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12:47 |
: Can we do a sandwich poll next?
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Is a Hot Dog a Sandwich?
No (50.0% | 9 votes)
No, but in green. (50.0% | 9 votes)
Total Votes: 18
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12:47 |
: Dan Im sure youre very busy the rest of the day. Cancel everything & watch all 7 episodes of Tiger King. They are only 40 minutes, your cats will approve
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12:48 |
: I actually have a lot to do!
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12:48 |
: What happens to the Field of Dreams game?
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12:48 |
: Presumably canceled?
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12:48 |
: Do the unwritten rules carry over to next year, or are Astros hitters rooting for the whole season to be canceled so they can be absolved / not besieged by HBPs?
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12:48 |
: Unwritten rules are like anti-vaccines. As long as you could think of an idiotic reason to follow it, you can follow it
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12:48 |
: Boooooooooooo, this isn’t a democracy this is a shamocracy
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12:49 |
Is This a Democracy?
Yes (15.3% | 2 votes)
No and put Dbo in prison (84.6% | 11 votes)
Total Votes: 13
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12:49 |
: Way to bias the poll. I support beans in chili but never Harold Reynolds as an analyst
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12:49 |
: It says right there you do!
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12:49 |
: was harold reynolds actually good he retired like 10 years before i was born
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12:50 |
: He had his moments as a player
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12:50 |
: If you put chili with bean between two slices of bread you get_______?
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12:50 |
: Bean-beef stew-based sloppy Joe.
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12:50 |
: I’ll just call it a Sloppy Hank.
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12:50 |
: I’m a good beanboy and I need my one bean! #teamonebean
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12:50 |
: sloppy joe with beans
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12:50 |
: u get chili with bean between two slices of bread
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12:50 |
: a=a by reflexive property
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12:50 |
: Definitely Python to the coding question.
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12:51 |
: Dbo, stand by the door and wait for the police, please!
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12:51 |
: Any deck you’re looking forward to tackling in the next hearthstone expansion?
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12:51 |
: I’ve been so distracted I haven’t really looked to much at the new cards
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12:51 |
: Though I will since they already have my money lol
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12:51 |
: Cancel everything- blame it on the weather or something, im sure theres an excuse you could think of
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12:51 |
: Can you just simulate the season and perform analysis on that
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12:51 |
: Some companies, in products they label as chili, will identify whether the product has beans or does not have beans, as opposed to calling one chili and the other chili with/without beans. Is this a fair compromise or does it represent a form of favoritism?
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12:52 |
: They have to communicate their product to people with bad ideas
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12:52 |
: kinda like how everyone knows that taco salad isn’t a taco or a salad
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12:52 |
: surely the rule that Sloppy Joes are beanless is much firmer than the chili-bean rule…
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12:52 |
: and I was going to get banned for a bad floral pun?
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12:52 |
: You wanna go to jail with Dbo?
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12:52 |
: I’m moving to Canada where they put gravy on their fries
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: Sunk cost I guess you’re playing Chone Figgins Druid?
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12:53 |
: not just gravy, gravy and cheese curds
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12:53 |
: Does ZIPS take into account that some players that tend to have stronger first/second halves? If so, how will it handle the shortened season?
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12:53 |
: I haven’t actually found predictive value in this. As many players have first half/second half patterns as you would expect from random chance
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12:53 |
: Dbo…top bunk or bottom bunk?
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12:53 |
: Should we expect free agent contracts to go down next offseason?
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12:54 |
: I suspect yes. Even in a full V economic recovery, there’s a lot of uncertainty
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12:54 |
: bro its cold in canada lol
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12:54 |
: Did you play project goat?
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12:54 |
: I did not.
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12:54 |
: a taco salad is a salad, a salad is just a mixture of things. People always think of garden salad even though its a subcategory
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12:55 |
: then everything is saald
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12:55 |
: salad
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12:55 |
: My box of random screws that were left over when I fixed something is a salad
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12:55 |
: Doesn’t it seem like the language MLB has created around restarting the season make it nearly impossible? There was something to the effect that travel bans and mass gathering restrictions must be lifted for every state that has a team
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12:55 |
: They did say they were open to other alternatives
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12:55 |
: Dbo is gunning for solitary confinement
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12:55 |
: This sentence is a salad?
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12:58 |
: It can only be a mixture of small pieces of food, like a fruit salad is a salad
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12:58 |
: AM I A SALAD?
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12:58 |
: guess we need a structure/ingredient salad matrix
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12:59 |
: See? You give Dbo chili authority and now the word salad breaks loose in all hell
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12:59 |
: Are yearly suspensions technically being “served” right now? I know they said Domingo German’s suspension wouldn’t start counting because it goes by games played. But assuming the possibility of no 2020 season does Hinch get to come back from baseball with no penalty?
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12:59 |
: They do because he was suspended until a date.
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12:59 |
: It ought to be the same for players, honestly.
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12:59 |
: A prisoner who is in a coma still serves time in a coma even if there’s no possibility of them exercising freedom during their coma
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12:59 |
: J.D. Davis or Schwarber?
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12:59 |
: Schwarb
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1:00 |
: This is the same site that declared that Philip Roth was not a reliable source for what Philip Roth believed.
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: TLDR version: Roth said that contrary to the wiki at the time, Anatole Broyard was not the basis for The Human Stain.
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: Wikipedia essentially told him that he could only change that in the wikipedia entry if he found a secondary source stating that it was his opinion.
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1:01 |
: What’s your guess: MLB will use a juiced ball or dejuiced ball?
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1:01 |
: juiced
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1:02 |
: ok lets stop with this salad bullshit
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1:02 |
: I for one welcome our new all-salad universe
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1:02 |
: should the MLB cut the MILB teams???Just in case
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1:02 |
: no
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1:02 |
: Defending Harold Reynolds isn’t a popular opinion around here but I respect his, ahem, game. He pullllls.
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1:02 |
: I’ve been reading proposals for the season which cancel the all star game (the Dodgers are scheduled to host) and to put the World Series there instead. If this happens, Dodgers fans get to celebrate having the world series in town, right? Right?!
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1:02 |
: My bigger worry for Dodgers would be what happens if they never get Mookie?
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1:02 |
: It’s April!
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1:02 |
: lmao new conspiracy hinch did corona so he wouldn’t miss the season
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1:02 |
: “You give Dbo chili authority and now the word salad breaks loose in all hell” is one of the greatest sentences you’ve ever written
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1:02 |
: My first act of order is to promote Guy Fieri from the mayor of Flavortown to the Secretary of Food Definitions
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1:03 |
: Which is better: Sheetz or Wawa
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1:03 |
: Wawa
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1:03 |
: But Sheetz is more convenient for me as it’s on major highways I travel
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1:03 |
: It was nice just to see my name on a chat….
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1:03 |
: wawa
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1:03 |
: OK, on that note, time for me to take off for another baseball-free week!
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1:03 |
: Thanks for coming everyone! please come again. And read our articles! The traffic you provide helps us get through this troubled time.
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Discussions about what makes a chili, Scott’s toilet paper, and the definition of salad. Only in a Szymborski baseball chat, where discussions about baseball make up less than 50% of the content. If Dan was a beer drinker like Eno Sarris we would just kick the baseball discussion to the proverbial curb. Gotta love it in this insane time.