Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 4/29/21
| 12:03 |
: The appointed time for chat has arrived.
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| 12:05 |
: Also changed my avatar. Some of you were confused why I looked so old at 42. That was the Old Dan Szymborski avatar.
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| 12:06 |
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| 12:06 |
: Can Huascar Ynoa stick as a starter? Pretty much fastball/slider only so far.
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| 12:08 |
: I do worry about two-pitch starters. I’ve wanted Kevin Gausman to develop an actually effective breaking pitch for years now to at least a cutter or something.
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| 12:10 |
: Hitters are very adaptable creatures. I’d love if Ynoa’s occasional change was more of a weapon he could use
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| 12:10 |
: How many small children did you have to shove to the ground to be first in line to write the Bridich/Rockies piece?
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| 12:10 |
: Did your gleeful cackles haunt the night?
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| 12:11 |
: Ha! Actually, I wasn’t on the PC when it happened and Ben helpfully pinged me right as it was announced, enabling me to get dibs!
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| 12:11 |
: We usually go by dibs except for certain particular topics. I get dibs on ZiPS things, for obvious reasons, but I don’t believe I get Rockies dibs
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| 12:12 |
: What were the ZiPS 99 percentile projections for DeGrom and Trout this year?
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| 12:12 |
: Percentile projections for pitchers not yet out of beta
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| 12:12 |
: but for Trout
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| 12:13 |
: The 99th percentile projection was a .307/476/780 line with 55 homers for 10.8 WAR
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| 12:13 |
: Hey, it’s a *99*
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| 12:14 |
: Do deGrom’s teammates hate him? Or maybe they like him too much, so they put a lot of pressure on themselves, causing them to fail? Or maybe they’re just bad at baseball? Which is it?
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| 12:14 |
: I have a deGrom piece in the hopper RIGHT NOW!
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| 12:15 |
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| 12:16 |
: Dan, it’s still April
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| 12:16 |
: for NOW
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| 12:16 |
: “May!”
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| 12:16 |
: It appears that the woes of the Brave offense were a bit overstated and they’re actually going to be just fine haha
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| 12:16 |
: I wasn’t overly worried – it’s a team with Acuña, Freeman, and Albies. I’m concerned about depth there on the offense
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| 12:16 |
: Should the Rockies trade for Nolan Arenado?
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| 12:16 |
: MAYBE THEY CAN THROW IN ANOTHER $50 MILLION
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| 12:16 |
: Why is ZiPS trying to pump the brakes on the Huascar Ynoa hype train?
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| 12:16 |
: ZiPS hates everything.
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| 12:16 |
: Jesse winker is now top 10 by wRC+, but still cannot hit LHP. Is he a forever platoon player? Does Zips see any hope for improvement in his splits
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| 12:17 |
: There’s always hope there with experience. Shawn Green and Ryan Klesko moved beyond needing platoon partners.
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| 12:18 |
: Also remember, it’s 200 PA of lefties
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| 12:18 |
: Generic platoon splits for hitters are better predictors of future platoon splits than ACTUAL platoon splits untill you get to a LOT of PA, in the 3000 total range.
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| 12:18 |
: And even that just gets actual platoon splits to the level that it is *AS* predictive
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| 12:21 |
: I busted out the “a taco is a sandwich” hot take the other day. It made a lot of my friends very mad at me. I’m going to go eat a sandwich for lunch
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| 12:21 |
: I hear Brodie van Wagenan is available if there are any open GM jobs
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| 12:22 |
: Guillermo Heredia has improved his projection significantly since the start of the season. He’s really looked good at the plate. He’s the Braves CF for the rest of the season isn’t he?
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| 12:22 |
: He’s been very solid, but Pache is Atlanta’s long-term play and it’ll be hard to derail that too much
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| 12:22 |
: It’s moneyball deja vu for Beane in 2021. Semien gone, Hendriks gone and no money to replace them
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| 12:22 |
: Plus the wild win-loss streaks
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| 12:24 |
: Any thoughts on Meadows? Is he just experiencing bad luck, or is he just a light hitter?
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| 12:24 |
: I should note that with his career average BABIP, he has like a .900 OPS
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| 12:24 |
: Springer and Semien are interesting but shouldn’t the Jays have focused a little bit more on pitching help
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| 12:24 |
: They needed more than just that
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| 12:24 |
: And the pitching options this offseason weren’t great
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| 12:24 |
: The first Bridich Free chat. The pressure is on Dan. If you had that job now…What would be the #1 and #2 items on your list to do to start turning around that franchise?….and leaving Colorado is not an option….nor is building a huge pressurized bubble so it feels like pitching at sea level.
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| 12:25 |
: I’d clean house of anyone who had any stake in decision making
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| 12:25 |
: though in reality, #1 would be finding a house in Denver and #2, getting blood pressure medication because of ownership
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| 12:25 |
: How many Orioles currently in the nightly lineup could Brandon Fahey outhit if he came out of retirement today?
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| 12:25 |
: Ouch
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| 12:25 |
: how many times a week do one of your cats throw up, be it hairball or otherwise?
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| 12:25 |
: I’d guess maybe 1.5 barfs a week or so?
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| 12:26 |
: Galileo was always the barfy cat. Nearly every day. He was an obsessive groomer and had myriad hairballs
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| 12:27 |
: Are you still higher on Kirilloff than ZIPS?
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| 12:27 |
: Yes
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| 12:27 |
: How much do we need to cashapp you for a ZiPS percentile breakdown on Mike Tauchman?
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| 12:27 |
: Hey, I *do* have a standard price for a full readout that includes that
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| 12:27 |
: For you guys, free, though I’m not set up (yet) to have it integrated with in-season performance
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| 12:31 |
: Coming into season, with fixed PA
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| 12:31 |
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| 12:31 |
: What do you make of Vlad Jrs hot start? Has he arrived? There are some launch angle metrics that suggest he possibly has, but to me, the presence and relaxation he’s showing at the plate is noticeably on a different level right from the outset of the season. He’s taking pitches he didn’t in his first two years. It’s almost peak Miggy confidence I see. Thoughts?
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| 12:31 |
: I’m quite optimistic! Remember I put him at my breakouts piece at #1
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| 12:31 |
: People forget how young he is
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| 12:31 |
: Tony Wolfe had a good piece about the Giants rotation. If you had to pick 1 of the guys (outside gausman) to keep up really good numbers (not the cy young numbers they are all putting up now) all season, who would it be?
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| 12:31 |
: WHY CAN’T I HAVE GAUSMAN
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| 12:32 |
: I will trudge over your bones to take Gausman
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| 12:33 |
: Might actually be Cueto
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| 12:33 |
: I was pessimistic, but the changeup is rocking this year
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| 12:33 |
: and that was the missing formula
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| 12:33 |
: What did you think of the Tauchman/Peralta deal?
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| 12:33 |
: I think it’s a fine deal, though I question the TIMING for the Yankees given their OF has been struggling lately
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| 12:34 |
: Have Vlad’s RoS ZiPS projections changed?
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| 12:34 |
: They always do!
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| 12:34 |
: In this case, preseason .839 OPS is now a rest of season .868 OPS
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| 12:34 |
: How many people are good enough currently to start for a major league team but aren’t because they’re more valuable getting seasoning in the minors, blocked on their team, playing overseas etc
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| 12:34 |
: AS IF MINORS ARE A THING
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| 12:35 |
: Fewer than there used to be
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| 12:35 |
: NPB/KBO are now more viable options than 25 years ago and teams are more likely to give players chances
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| 12:36 |
: guys like Roberto Petagine and Greg LaRocca likely have real MLB careers now
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| 12:36 |
: How predictive, in general, is a season’s first month regarding a team’s or player’s rest of season performance? Somewhat, slightly, not at all predictive?
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| 12:36 |
: slightly
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| 12:37 |
: I did talk about this
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| 12:37 |
: I give better details when I’m sitting down and writing a piece rather than talking off-the-cuff!
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| 12:37 |
: Galaxy Brain: The Cubs can’t trade Baez, Davies or Pederson at the deadline if they all have 0 trade value
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| 12:37 |
: oof
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| 12:37 |
: What team is Trevor Story on come August? German Marquez?
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| 12:37 |
: Rockies
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| 12:38 |
: What’s your take on Luis Castillo’s struggles this year? Do you see any positive indicators for a turnaround?
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| 12:38 |
: I’m actually EXTREMELY worried
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| 12:38 |
: Look at the velocity. THen look at the dropoff in contact rate
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| 12:38 |
: You’ve expressed that you enjoy AEW, and I guess it isn’t any worse than whatever the hell the WWE is doing the past few years. But seems to me that trying to convince people that that the Young Bucks are some top badass team is like trying to convince a baseball fan that Ben Revere is a middle of the order slugger.
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| 12:38 |
: OMG DAN YOU’RE LATE!
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| 12:38 |
: Fashionably so.
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| 12:38 |
: When Bridich was let go, I knew there was only one man who was going to write the article.
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| 12:38 |
: Can the Brewers still win the Central without a productive Yelich or Cain?
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| 12:39 |
: Yes, the division just isn’t very good
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| 12:39 |
: The Cardinals are likely the best team. But they’re not like the Dodgers or Padres
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| 12:40 |
: Top 3 neural network predictions for records to be broken this year
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| 12:40 |
: I just had a fun one the last few days
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| 12:42 |
: I put all the key & peele college football names into it
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| 12:43 |
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| 12:44 |
: 42? I thought it was 82
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| 12:44 |
: I was born in 78
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| 12:44 |
: 1978 not the year 1978
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| 12:44 |
: I liked old dan more
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| 12:44 |
: What is a lobster? I saw the term last week in a Fangraphs article but am not familiar with it
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| 12:44 |
: Someone who lobs pitches
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| 12:44 |
: Jered Weaver was a lobster.
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| 12:44 |
: Can I believe in Nick Solak long-term? Or is this power surge merely a false dawn?
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| 12:44 |
: I’ve been mildly optimistic. He dserved a second chance after 2020
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| 12:44 |
: Odds MLB panic switches back to the old ball after All-Star break?
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| 12:44 |
: Probably low.
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| 12:44 |
: David Cone said he was a 2 pitch pitcher for 10 years before he was taught the splitter grip
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| 12:45 |
: Is it finally happening for Luis Urías? His underlying Statcast data is starting to look pretty solid.
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| 12:45 |
: I hope so, I’ve been stanning for him
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| 12:45 |
: What is the best way for you to present ranges in your ZIPS projections in an efficient manner? For example, if two different projection systems both have a person hitting 20 HR as their average, but one has a much higher 75th percentile prediction than the other, that is useful information to have for the reader.
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| 12:45 |
: That’s something I’m still sorting out. It’s difficult, you have to trade off being detailed and having a massive flood of data
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| 12:45 |
: So I’ve been going the percentile route lately
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| 12:46 |
: You’re starting a franchise and can have Acuna, Tatis or Soto for the rest of their career. How would you rank them in this scenario?
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| 12:46 |
: In that order
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| 12:46 |
: I love all three
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| 12:46 |
: But Soto’s a corner outfielder and Tatis has health questions
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| 12:46 |
: Who finishes the season closer to their current pace: DeGrom or Trout?
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| 12:47 |
: I know this is a crazy question, but I’ll say Trout is more likely to finish with 16 WAR than deGrom
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| 12:47 |
: 307 batting average seems really low for a trout 99th percentile or has zips already adjusted for the league wide tanking of batting averages
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| 12:47 |
: It’s not a 99th percentile for JUST BA
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| 12:47 |
: His 99th percentile BA is higher
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| 12:47 |
: but for an OVERALL 99th percentile line, that’s what it averages
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| 12:48 |
: A 99th percentile in EVERY skill would be a projection that was WAY above 99th percentile
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| 12:48 |
: do you find yourself rooting more for guys that ZiPS likes? thinking of about Ha Seong Kim’s slow start
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| 12:48 |
: I try not to, but it is inevitable
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| 12:48 |
: It’s preferable to look smart than look stupid
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| 12:48 |
: Hey, are the Red Sox actually this good?
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| 12:48 |
: I wouldn’t go that far
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| 12:48 |
: Any research on lingering effects of getting hit in the face by a 97mph fastball? (P.S. JUst traded for Harper last week)
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| 12:49 |
: Haven’t seen any
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| 12:49 |
: But I imagine that there’s quite a variance depending on the exact spot the forces are applied
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| 12:49 |
: Yesterday Fangraphs had a McCormick advertisement that seemed to suggest Chili has beans. Is that an official endorsement from Fangraphs, or does Fangraphs’ brass side with you?
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| 12:49 |
: We have not had a staff meeting about chili
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| 12:49 |
: BUT MCCORMICK LIES
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0.75 + 2.5 * 0.75 = 2.625
Or if they’re weirdly meaning 2.5 times as much, 1.875 ounces. BUT WHY 2.12 ARE HERBS NOT BASE 10? |
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Hey @mccormickspices, either you guys owe me about half an ounce of oregano or I owe you about a third of an ounce of oregano. Because 2.12 ounces is 1 7/8 times *more* oregano.
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| 12:51 |
: I love the first amendment, but disputes about what is and is not a sandwich is the single greatest argument for the merits repressive speech chilling regimes
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| 12:51 |
: Will the Giants be in the playoff race come September?
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| 12:52 |
: Probably not. At least division. They could be a dark horse in WC2, but probably not
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| 12:52 |
: I read that at first as “Galileo was always the barfly cat”, which sounds like a fun kind of cat
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| 12:52 |
: Jed Lowrie has, so far, clearly outperformed his ZIPS projection. I’m curious though, has he outperformed his 3-year ZIPS forecast run after the 2018 season? Is this season really that much of an outlier if ZIPS knew he was healthy?
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| 12:52 |
: Lemme check
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| 12:54 |
: ZiPS only saw him as a .253/.319/.387 hitter in 2021 after 2018
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| 12:54 |
: He’s *really* old
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| 12:54 |
: I think there’s some LOL Mets magic
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| 12:55 |
: Did MLB miss a chance with the Astros trash can scandal? I think the better punishment would’ve been to keep it quiet, and plant someone in the stands to bang on a trash can at the incorrect moments
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| 12:55 |
: then there might be trash can signal calibration
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| 12:56 |
: THAT CAN ISN’T THE RIGHT PITCH
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| 12:56 |
: I don’t understand hitter-centric proposals to solve the “TTO problem.” I don’t think changes (like moving fences back or deadening balls) that would supposedly encourage hitters to put the ball in play would actually increase contact rate all that much. The pitching is just too good. I think you run the risk of creating a high-K low-power environment.
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| 12:56 |
: You can do multiple things
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| 12:57 |
: The idea is to *incentivize* putting balls in play
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| 12:57 |
: Batters *can* make more contact, but you have to sacrifice other things to make more contact
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| 12:57 |
: Do you hate the Bally Gaming Broadcasts as much as I do? Texas Rangers broadcast I caught was awful.
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| 12:57 |
: Yes
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| 12:57 |
: How close of a comp is Joe Sewell to Madrigal?
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| 12:57 |
: It’s not crazy, relative to the environment
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| 12:58 |
: ZiPS says George Kell.
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| 12:58 |
: Ain’t bad to have a Hall of Famer in your comp list
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| 1:02 |
: Are you brothers with The Amazing Jonathan? You look like him.
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| 1:02 |
: It’s possible. Though he’s funnier than I am!
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: Nicer than the person who told me I looked like a cross between Shrek and Göring
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| 1:02 |
: A Dan A Chat A Thursday adsruhTAtahCAnaDA
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| 1:02 |
: Lobster used to be low class food (sea bugs ew gross), so in Cape Breton in the 50s and 60s you could tell the poor kids from the rich kids cause poor kids had lobster sandwiches on homemade bread and rich kids had bologna on wonder bread.
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| 1:03 |
: I thought lobster was a term for a hitter notorious ending the inning with men Left On Base. Dude, striking out with the bases loaded, that was a lobster effort.
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| 1:03 |
: Is there a way we can pull zips percentiles like you did for tauchman ourselves?
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| 1:03 |
: Nofortunately
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| 1:03 |
: I’m actually really surprised that Trout’s 99th percentile outcome is only 10.8 WAR.
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: Not over the PA proejcted, whichi is fairly low
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Do you utilize any Arima modeling in your predictive stats? |
| 1:05 |
: I do not
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| 1:05 |
: ever let the cats drive?
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| 1:05 |
: I would hope Bally would find a way to include some cool Pac-Man graphics into their broadcasts — maybe have Pac-Man eating ghosts after a homer.
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| 1:05 |
: On that note, time to end the chat for another week!
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| 1:05 |
: Thanks for coming everyone, and I hope to see you next time!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Dan Szymborski

