Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 5/11/23
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: And I have returned from a lengthy vacation and a Thursday in which I was way behind on an article I had to finish up!
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| 12:00 |
: Logan Webb or Joe Ryan rest of season/career?
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| 12:01 |
: I’m still a Webb slinger, but I’m quite bullish on Joe Ryan. And hey, ZiPS never disliked him and that splitter’s been kickass
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| 12:01 |
: Should a manager ever put on a sacrifice bunt?
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| 12:01 |
: Yeah, there are specific situations it’s useful
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| 12:01 |
: for example, you don’t need a high probability of a sacrifice bunt becoming a hit to make it worthwhile
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| 12:02 |
: and second, the threat of a bunt is at least useful. if nobody ever bunted, then that would be a good situation for a bunt!
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| 12:02 |
: so if you have a fast guy who can bunt well, it’s frequently a good strategy, so long as you’re not just thinking of it as a sacrifice.
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| 12:05 |
: Who will accrue the most WAR during the 2030 season? Bogaerts, Correa, Swanson, Turner, or V. Grissom?
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| 12:05 |
: I’d probably guess Correa
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| 12:06 |
: Welcome back Dan! True or False, the CIN organization has a better offensive lineup in Louisville than they do in Cincinnati?
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| 12:06 |
: I was going to be snarky, but looking at Louisville’s roster, it’s at least close!
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| 12:07 |
: I could use some clarification about how to contextualize exit velocity. Are MLB players hitting the ball, say, 110 mph+ off the bat impressive because A) they are simply uniquely capable of using wood bats to hit baseballs at EVs in that range, or B) they are uniquely capable of hitting baseballs thrown by MLB pitchers at EVs in that range? I’m almost certain that it’s the former (MLB pitchers screw up and throw meatballs that some players can’t hit 110 mph), but I feel like I would be more impressed by max EV numbers if I knew a particular hit was, say, 75% harder than the max EV at which an average guy on the street could hit that pitch.
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| 12:07 |
: I don’t believe htere’s been a public study of average dudes.
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| 12:07 |
: HOWEVER
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| 12:07 |
: there *is* a study of average dudes: pitchers
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| 12:07 |
: as most of them are not Ohtanis
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| 12:07 |
: Ohtanii?
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| 12:07 |
: The Ohtanescenti?
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| 12:12 |
: (Sorry, looking this up)
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| 12:12 |
: Lemme answer more Qs while this one is brewing
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| 12:13 |
: nm
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| 12:13 |
: during the Statcast era, only three pitchers not named Shohei Ohtani have hit a 110 mph pitch
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| 12:13 |
: errr
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| 12:13 |
: hit a pitch 110 mphj
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| 12:13 |
: Madison Bumgarner, Daniel Mengden, Nick Ramirez
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| 12:14 |
: Buit Ramirez doesn’t count
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| 12:14 |
: he was a hitter
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| 12:14 |
: Mengden played OF in college
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| 12:15 |
: So 110 is pretty hard for anyone!
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| 12:15 |
: Would you rather your club led MLB in home runs, run differential, or wins?
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| 12:15 |
: wins ideally
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| 12:15 |
: I need a beer
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| 12:15 |
: What’s your approach to the rotation if you’re AA? The Braves are good enough to rely on internal options, but would you be looking around for depth starters? Love how Elder’s performed but still not comfortable with him as the #3 for the foreseeable future
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| 12:15 |
: I actually have a piece in the hopper
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| 12:15 |
: Can Outman keep this up and win ROY? If you had to guess who wins right now is it him, Carroll, or someone else
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| 12:15 |
: I still think Carroll gets it
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| 12:17 |
: If Shohei Ohtani’s pitching and hitting seasons in the NPB are translated to MLB WAR, what numbers are we looking at?
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| 12:17 |
: In this case, I did provide the translations for an ESPN article in 2017!
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| 12:17 |
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| 12:18 |
: Will a RH batter ever hit a home run into McCovey Cove?
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| 12:18 |
: It’s *possible* but unlikely
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| 12:19 |
: Going to the start of 2017, Statcast only lists 36 opposite-field homers at San Francisco for righties
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| 12:19 |
: and none of them were even 400 feet
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| 12:21 |
: Cron had the third longest (the longest was a Baez inside-the-parker and Rupp’s was more towards center)
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| 12:21 |
: And it didn’t even come close
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| 12:22 |
: There was a THT piece some years ago that talked about hte problems.
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| 12:23 |
: As of the piece, the average HR distance of a splash is 405
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| 12:23 |
: but it’s 366 down the line exactly
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| 12:24 |
: a righty crushing something opposite field in exactly the right way COULD do it
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| 12:24 |
: but it’s an unlikely event
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| 12:24 |
: Two questions, highly interrelated:
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| 12:24 |
: Now, a couple weeks ago
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: I love your recent Twitter critiques of the Cardinals front office (I am a Cardinals fan).This isn’t a question, I just want to say it’s cathartic to know I am not the only one feeling this way.
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| 12:24 |
: I’ve generally liked the team’s front office, but this is a mess right now.
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| 12:25 |
: At what age does Michael Harris move out of CF? I’m expecting him to keep gaining a bit of weight and add more power. Is it after the current extension he’s on?
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| 12:25 |
: I think he’ll last his 20s
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| 12:26 |
: Paul DeJong is off to a strong start to his season, and the Cardinals have held on to him despite poor hitting last year. Still, there’s no way he has his club option exercised in 2024, right?
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| 12:26 |
: I can’t imagine they do
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| 12:26 |
: they turned down a 12.5 million option on Wong a few years ago
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| 12:27 |
: I can’t imagine them liking DeJong, even having a good year, enough to take a similar option
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| 12:29 |
: A lot of chatter about Mountcastle and his “bad luck”. It happened last year, and it’s leaking into this year as well. He’s also been unlucky on the road, so we can’t put all the blame on the wall. What do you make of it? I’m still of the opinion that things will get better, but there is that nagging feeling that won’t go away.
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| 12:29 |
: It’s a bit overblown
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| 12:29 |
: Naturally, he’s no longer ideally suited to Camden
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| 12:29 |
: but homers can’t explain a 50 point home drop in BA
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| 12:30 |
: some of it yes
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| 12:30 |
: but he’s also played worse overall at home
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| 12:30 |
: outside of homers
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| 12:31 |
: and remember, actual home/road splits for an individual are EXTREMELY noisy, even though they reflect a real thing
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| 12:31 |
: which is why I always warn people that Coors Away stats are an awful projection system
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| 12:32 |
: Can you say something nice about Nick Castellanos please
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| 12:32 |
: Castellanos only struggled last year because of his compassion. Given that deaths and bigotry are revealed during his home runs, he didn’t want to inflict undue suffering on humanity.
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| 12:32 |
: Now that it’s been a while since, he’s free to carefully hit homers again.
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| 12:34 |
: By my reckoning, Castellanos hit HRs during Thomfoolery, two eulogies for deceased veterans, the announcement of an ill coach, and Pete Walker’s DUI apology
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| 12:34 |
: Could a McDonald’s self-checkout kiosk call balls and strikes with greater accuracy than an MLB Umpire could take down lunchtime rush orders?
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| 12:35 |
: Yes
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| 12:35 |
: Thoughts on Pfaadts’ contact quality allowed to date?
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| 12:35 |
: Let’s just say it’s not…been…ideal so far
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| 12:35 |
: So you think Vinnie Pasquantino is worth locking up long-term? Is there anyone else among all those first- and second-year players for KC who maybe shows this kind of promise, or is Italian Breakfast all there is?
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| 12:37 |
: Whether he’s Italian Breakfast, Pasquatch (his preference), or the Italian Nightmare, I think he’s the safest bet
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| 12:37 |
: Though the Royals should explore it with Witt and Pratto
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| 12:37 |
: Any chance of Yennier Cano taking over the closing duties in the near future? Felix Bautista has been shaky but avoided and big blowups. Cano… has not been shaky.
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| 12:37 |
: Closers *typically* don’t lose jobs unless they’re a lot worse than the alternate
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| 12:38 |
: There’s a big incumbent advantage
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| 12:40 |
: How would you handle the Vientos situation? He’s done all he can with the bat, but would you call him up to DH occasionally/muck around left field?
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| 12:40 |
: I would
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| 12:40 |
: make him Vogelbach’s platoon partner and start giving away Canha/Pham at-bats in other games to him
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| 12:41 |
: And if you can’t find a spot to play him
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: (and I think they can)
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| 12:41 |
: Then you really have to explore trades
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| 12:41 |
: like Eduardo Rodriguez
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| 12:41 |
: Vientos murdering pitchers in Syracuse doesn’t help the Mets and it doesn’t help his career
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| 12:44 |
: What’s the long-term plan for prospect coverage at Fangraphs? It seems the workload is too heavy for one guy
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| 12:45 |
: Don’t forget about Tess!
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| 12:45 |
: That should be targeted towards Eric. I don’t know his workload or how he’s feeling about it.
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| 12:45 |
: And it certainly wouldn’t be my role to speculate on our staffing decisions!
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| 12:46 |
: What’s the percent chance that the AL East all finish above 500?
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| 12:46 |
: Dammit are you going to make me open zips?
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: <sigh>
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| 12:46 |
: Luckily, I literally ran a season sim an hour ago, but I have to open it so I’ll answer other things
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| 12:47 |
: A man a Dan a chat in may, amnitahcanadanama
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| 12:47 |
: Soto’s average Max AV for his career is listed incorrectly.
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: it’s not really average max av
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: just his max av
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| 12:48 |
: A friend of mine, who doesn’t watch baseball, asked about a pitcher. To which I replied he’s been just ok but his stuff is great. My friend found it hilarious that we call the quality of a pitchers’ pitches “stuff”.
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| 12:49 |
: This is a text from a dear friend who does not like baseballl, but comes along with me frequently to baseball (and to the Staten Island panel we did!)
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: oops, that’s her stoned text
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| 12:51 |
: 3 yearZIPS projections on N Gorman are wild. Think that late to adjust?
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| 12:51 |
: Those are only done preseason!
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| 12:51 |
: How worried should we be about Julio? He looks really bad so far. Just awful swing decisions and missing easy middle-middle pitches.
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: I’m not
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| 12:51 |
: Also, do you have any opinion/thoughts on the Cardinals debacle with Willson Contreras and how they’ve handled this
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| 12:51 |
: I said a LOT on Twitter this week
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| 12:51 |
: I think this captures my feelings
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I can’t believe Willson Contreras let the swiss cheese in my fridge not be properly closed and now the whole package is ruined.
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| 12:52 |
: Hey Dan – if you move to Canada you get to tell people your age in terms of the U.S. exchange rate. When my Aunt turned 60, she was like ‘but it’s only 45 U.S.’. British Columbia is very nice….welcome home.
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: WAIT DOES TIME WORK LIKE THAT AM I 4500 IN JAPAN
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: err the opposite
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: AM I A BABY IN JAPAN?
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| 12:52 |
: Skyline Chili cook off!
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: Better than a cook on
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| 12:53 |
: Do you think the M’s will right the ship? The offense outside of JK has been so so bad! A brutal mix of disappointment and regression.
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| 12:53 |
: I think they’ll be OK
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: ZiPS is awesome and I wonder what it thinks…. As an Orioles fan, I STILL cannot get over the Glenn Davis trade. We know how it turned out (it would have been a steal for the Astros if it was just Pete Harnisch for Davis…but it was much much more), and we know it was bad at the time (Randy Milligan was already a better player), BUT…. what does ZiPS have to say? Would ZiPS have predicted such a horrendous trade outcome? (Also, on the other end, would ZiPS have predicted the Erik Bedard outcome?)
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| 12:53 |
: I might do this as a time warp at some point
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: I don’t have it simply set up then I can just type them in
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| 12:58 |
: how do you think future HOF voters will handle borderline guys where 2020 would have been a potential peak season?
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| 12:59 |
: Not sure. I don’t think it’ll be enough to do a big difference
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| 12:59 |
: So Gunnar is still going to be a thing…right? Feel like I keep waiting for the explosion give his OBP…but the struggle seems real
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| 12:59 |
: Concerned, but not worried
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| 12:59 |
: No righty has ever hit one into the cove, even in batting practice. Buster Posey’s home run vs. Walker Buehler in the 2021 NLDS may have actually gone in but it hit one of the brick water cannons.
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| 12:59 |
: Do you have any plans for more ZIPS Time Warp articles? A Vida Blue one might be interesting.
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| 12:59 |
: Yeah, I definitely want to ramp up more of those this summer
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| 1:00 |
: Also, how long before this chat is just a ChatGPT trained version of you?
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: That would be interesting. Train a model on my chats
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: and make all the responses AI
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| 1:01 |
: we’re not there yet
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| 1:01 |
: but in the meantime, here’s Caravaggio’s painting of sad Mets.
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| 1:04 |
: What is a hobby that a player could have that would make you alter their projections in a negative way? Thank you Dan, very cool!
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: Breaking into my house and formatting my hard drives
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| 1:04 |
: We know the teams you are most accused of hating. Which teams are you most accused of favoring?
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| 1:04 |
: I’m well-known for being chaotic neutral so I don’t live anything
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| 1:04 |
: Also on the nickname front, Vogelbach will always be “Engelberg” to me 😉
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| 1:05 |
: “Dammit are you going to make me open zips?”
If I wasn’t a baseball nerd I might think that someone asked you to go check on that noise outside of the tent in the middle of the night. |
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: Where did you vacation? Was it fun?
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: Not super exciting, I go more interesting places in winters
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| 1:05 |
: This was just a good trip to Baltimore and I didn’t want to work on the road there
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: In the Fangraphs movie, when they give ZiPS a voice, which celebrity would you pick?
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| 1:06 |
: Maurice LaMarche doing Orson Welles
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| 1:06 |
: AI Dan: Cinncinati chili isn’t chili. Here are some hearthstone cards. I should probably get permission to use Zips…..
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: When will AI produce a mascot compilation for twitter to enjoy?
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: I’ve actually done some of this
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| 1:09 |
: Senga looks…. not good. 4 runs already, in the first inning
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: How bad will the Angels be next year without ol’ Tungsten Arm O’Doyle?
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| 1:09 |
: Pretty bad
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| 1:09 |
: Which of the O’s non-Gunnar, non-Holliday infield prospects turns out best: Norby, Ortiz, or Westburg?
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| 1:09 |
: I think Norby’s the most interesting of the three, but I like all of them
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| 1:10 |
: On that note, it’s time for me to head off to that old dusty trail
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| 1:10 |
: thanks for coming everyone and I hope to see you all next time!
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: Thanks for all the great Qs – sadly, there were far more than I could answer; I’d already need six hours to answer the ones here!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

Appreciate the answer about exit velocities. I hadn’t considered looking at pitcher hitting data!