Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 5/18/23
12:02 |
: ITS A CHAT!
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12:03 |
: Does Henry Davis even need Triple A? At what point does he just head to Pittsburgh.
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12:04 |
: It’s a bit tricky – I don’t generally like skipping catchers too aggressively, but they can’t play both him and Endy Rodriguez.
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12:05 |
: And it’s a little awkward to stick him in a non-catcher position in the majors
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12:05 |
: Unless the Pirates have the guts to bench Santana
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12:05 |
: very cool!
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12:05 |
: DAMN YOU CAVE
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12:05 |
: Is it officially safe to say Acuna’s back
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12:05 |
: Yeah
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12:06 | : Can we get a moment of silence for the loss of the great Bill Saluga? |
12:07 |
: I have been a Padres fan all my life. Convince me going to the NLCS wasn’t a cruel joke to give us hope, only to rip it away once more.
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12:08 |
: What is my long term outlook?
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12:08 |
: I think an averageish 1B
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12:08 |
Things aren’t going great in San Diego If things continue to go really poorly and they find themselves like 40-50 in mid-July, 15+ games out of the West and 8+ out of the wildcard (assuming two the Mets/Phillies/Cardinals/Cubs improve), what are the chances the Padres would entertain making Juan Soto available for the second straight deadline? |
12:09 |
: I don’t think they do that unless they suddenly desire to break up the team. Losing Soto makes some of the other deals nearly pointless
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12:09 |
: They’re pot committed now
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12:10 |
: Should the White Sox move Kopech to the bullpen?
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12:10 |
: I would consider it if the White Sox were seriously in the divisional race
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12:10 |
: But they’re not and their good outcomes probably need Kopech a good starter and one fewer starter to need to replace in the next couple of years
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12:10 |
: Since the season’s increasingly looking lost, I think they shoudl work out his issues.
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12:10 |
: Hey Dan, the eye test indicates that Vladdy has embraced physical fitness and he looks good at first. With Chapman likely gone after the season, could/should the Jays try Vlad Jr. at third again?
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12:11 |
: I generally think teams such try to push the defensive spectrum where possible. I’d want a fallback position though in the spring
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12:11 |
: How long until it’s more likely Bryce Elder is truly better than sum of his pitches vs this is just a blip of over-performance?
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12:12 |
: Not really a one sentence answer! It takes a lot of time, however, for outperformance of peripheral numbers to have predictive value
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12:13 |
: For example, Marco Gonzales advanced far enough in ZiPS that it believe his ability to outperform his FIP is about 0.3 runs
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12:13 |
: You projected what Bryan Reynolds contract extension might look like, with the Bucs getting him to sign and showing a willingness to extend some of the core, what does ZIPS have to say about a potential Mitch Keller extension?
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12:13 |
: Dangit you guys always give me work to do! lol
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12:14 |
: You’ll have to wait a few, ZiPS isn’t open
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12:14 |
: You’re late. I want a refund.
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12:14 |
: I don’t usually leave at precisely 1 though!
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12:14 |
: Is Orlando Arcia a good hitter now? Did the Braves get a huge steal by signing him to that 3-year, $7.3 million extension?
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12:14 |
: I got most of my feelings about Arcia out in the piece I wrote a few weeks ago
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12:15 |
: Does ZiPS have biases for certain traits in prospects? I know you’ve talked about how it was so much higher on Mookie as a prospect compared to the industry, is there something in particular it keys on that you’ve noticed or just happened to work out that way?
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12:15 |
: I’m not sure for certain traits other than since it’s performance-based, it likes players with good performance who scouts don’t like for some reason
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12:15 |
: Greetings Dan. What did you make of Anthony DeSclafani hurting his foot with a piano bench? Have you suffered anything like that? I understand when asked how long he may be out, DeSclafani said “He would be Bach in no time”. Thank You. Let the derision begin.
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12:16 |
: I badly sprained a ligament in my wrist some years ago playing the first movement of the Beethoven Pathetique
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12:18 |
: And then I tore it more significantly a few years later when I tripped on a cat and tried to catch myself on the bannister falling
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12:19 |
: Injury was here
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12:19 |
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12:20 |
: I still will mostly only play the second and third movement and I’m still sheepish about playing anythign with a quick tremolo in the left hand.
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12:21 |
: Morn. and thank you for ZIPS.
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12:22 |
: O’Hearn is an obvious candidate. Where do the cuts off the fringes of the 40 man need to come to get Cowser and Westburg up.
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12:22 |
: I’d certainly try to see if any teams are interested in Gillaspie
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12:23 |
: How frequently are the 3-yr projections on here updated/re-run? Asking for my dynasty rebuild.
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12:23 |
: Just preseason. Running the full preseason model is difficult en masse
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12:24 |
: My Rox are gonna avoid 100 losses again, Doncha think?
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12:24 |
: ZiPS has it a 30% chance
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12:24 |
: And the team does not do selloffs which would get them worse in the short-term
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12:24 |
: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW?
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12:25 |
: the Chailly recording of Messiaen’s Turangalila Symphonie.
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12:26 |
: Been on a bit of a Messiaen jag this week as I was just talking last week in a mini-Twitter thread about some of the thematic similarities between the Sephiroth One-Winged Angel theme from Final Fantasy VII and this piece.
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12:26 |
: Thread started here
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12:26 |
Unless I missed the tune somehow, I was really disappointed to not see Haydn’s The Creation in the Final Fantasy VII remake. I thought the scene of the Shinra President watching it as Sector 7 was destroyed was a great juxtaposition.
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12:26 |
: What are your thoughts on Yoshida? Worth the investment so far?
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12:26 |
: Happy, yes
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12:27 |
: And good self-interest since ZiPS had him at .305/.372/.489 before the season and leading the AL in BA
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12:27 |
: RIP SUPERSTAR BILLY GRAHAM
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12:28 |
: Is it Bo time in Cleveland?
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12:28 |
: It’s absurd that it’s not yet!
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12:29 |
: What should I tell my buddy in Iowa, let’s call him Bodie, about the 2023 New York Mets?
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12:30 |
: The Mets, good or bad, are the nation’s leading depository of sadness
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12:33 |
: Is there long term concern for Trea Turner with SwStr% + K% at career highs and xwOBA + barrel rate at career lows?
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12:33 |
: I wouldn’t go that far yet, though mildly worried about his slump at least
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12:33 |
: Regarding the depression of the A’s mention in your chat teaser. Either it’s still baseball so they aren’t depressing at all merely more or less fun or they are so depressing that 32% less depressing is still horrendously high for a chat. I see each of these views as valid.
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12:33 |
: I just don’t want to overpromise
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12:34 |
: What’s wrong with Alejandro Kirk? The hit tool it is gone.
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12:34 |
: I’m definitely at least somewhat concerned because even though the BABIP is too low, some of his velocity data is really off too
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12:35 |
: I named our new puppy after a player and that team can no longer win a game. My fault or just bad luck? I think we could change his name with only minor lasting personality issues.
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12:35 |
: It might be funny to see if they ever win again!
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12:36 |
: If you think there’s a hex, well, in for a penny, in for a pound
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12:37 |
: Do I need a 3rd pitch to be better than a back-end starter?
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12:38 |
: Two pitch pitchers sometimes have a lot of success. In his case, I’d really like to see him develop an off-speed pitch
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12:39 |
: He’s just not great at finishing off at-bats
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12:40 |
: Since you mentioned the depressing A’s in the chat teaser, I have to get your take. This is a team with a wRC+ of 97, which is not actually that bad. Is it possible that an MLB team employs pitchers whose collective true talent is so utterly abysmal?! They have to improve somewhat, right? Right?!
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12:40 |
: Writing more about ’em tomorrow!
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12:40 |
: How aggressive do you think the Reds will be with more promotions? McLain just up and CES waiting in the wings. Issue with CES is the walk rate, 1 all year I believe.
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12:40 |
: I’ve tgot a piece releated to this next weke
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12:40 |
: which of these underperforming teams do you think has the best chance of working things out: Cubs, Cards, M’s, or Guardians
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12:40 |
: Cards
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12:41 |
: The Contreras situation was a whole Bucket of Stupid
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12:41 |
: but people grossly underrate teams that get off to unexpectedly poor starts
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12:41 |
: Do you think Colas is anything other than an average MLB OF? Is a 20/10 peak?
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12:41 |
: Not really, no
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12:41 |
: Vientos puts up Barry Bonds numbers at AAA, Mets hold off on promoting him. They finally do, he hits 4 balls 100 MPH last night, including a 2 run HR to tie the game, and today he’s benched for Tommy Pham and Daniel Vogelbach. Is this Eppler or Showalter with the horrendous decisions?
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12:41 |
: I would GUESS Buck
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12:42 |
: Dan, apologies for the probably LMGTFY-able question. if a player is called up, sent down, etc. – is their paycheck the big league min while they are on the 26-man, and then their minor league salary if/when they’re sent back down? or does the old “contract was selected from” language mean that they’re now entirely on a new contract, even when sent back down, and they now get the big league min for perpetuity? or some other?
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12:44 |
: They’re not on a new contract really, they’re on optional assignment. When they’re on the 40-man roster then their minimums fall under the CBA
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12:44 |
: For players in their first-time on a 40-man roster, but playing in the minors, their minimum is $58,800
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12:45 |
: and for players on split contracts , the minimum is $117,400
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12:45 |
: In other words, a second MLB contract
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12:45 |
: If Bellinger keeps this up all year, does he get 9 figures?
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12:45 |
: Yes
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12:47 |
: Why does bryan reynolds always hit better with the stache? Does his xSWAG or SWAG+ increase in a meaningful way?
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12:47 |
: The power of mustaches
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12:48 |
: ZiPS suggests, for 2 last years of arb + 3 years of FA, 5/85 for Keller
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12:48 |
: Is there a way to see who has the most 400 foot outs? It feels like Acuna’s had like 5.
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12:48 |
: There is!
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12:51 |
: Statcast only has one 400-foot out for Acuna
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12:51 |
: Matt Chapman leads the majors with four 400-foot outs
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12:51 |
: Kerry Carpenter, Rodolfo Castro, and Kyle Tucker have two
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12:52 |
: And then 49 players have a single one
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12:52 |
: How do my cat frens do?
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12:52 |
: Justinian’s sleeping in his cat bed on my left desk
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12:52 |
: I heard someone barf on the stairs, which I have to clean up after this chat
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12:52 |
: I think that was Constantine as that was 12:30 and that’s when he starts getting restless about his upcoming dinner
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12:53 |
: Cassiopeia was asleep in the spoon of the cat tree in the upstairs TV room
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12:53 |
: and Mercutio was last seen, about 11 AM, sleeping on top of one of the pillows on the big living room couch
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12:54 |
: That’s his favorite place now – that used to be Galileo’s favorite place because he could see both the front door and the fridge from that position
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12:54 |
: Nobody would use that spot for a couple years after he died
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12:54 |
: I am begging you to please fix Mike Trout and make him the best non-Ohtani baseball player again 🙁
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12:54 |
: I mean, dude’s on the wrong side of 30 now. Time is the ultimate badass
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12:55 |
: Do you consider yourself a cat person?
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12:55 |
: Not sure, I like dogs too, but cats are really clean and I don’t have to get dressed and walk around the neighborhood with them at 6 AM
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12:55 |
: And I can leave cats alone for a week with daily checkups from my mom or sister
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12:56 |
: Does Jackson Holliday have a chance to play in the majors this year if he earns a promotion to AA and has a wRC+ of 200 again for 40 games?
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12:56 |
: I think so
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12:57 |
: Who would you rate as “Composer most likely to cause career ending injury?”
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12:57 |
: Liszt or Alkan?
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12:57 |
: Are we all just living in a Szymulation?
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12:57 |
: Not a SZYMulation
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12:57 |
: But technically speaking, if it would ever be possible to simulate the universe precisely, then it’s more likely we’re in one of the simulations than one of the “real” ones
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12:58 |
: Dan, it’s good to see on chatting once again!!
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12:58 |
: I was here last week and on vacation before that!
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12:58 |
: Generally speaking, are ZiPS ROS projections more conservative than Steamer, FGDC, THE BAT, and ATC DC? If so, why?
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12:58 |
: Not that I’m aware of.
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12:58 |
: But I tend to test ZiPS vs. reality, not ZiPS vs. other projection systems
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12:58 |
: Because ZiPS vs. other projection systems doesn’t give me insight on improving the projections since I can’t dissect the why.
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12:59 |
: And since this chat began, Westburg has hit his 12th homer.
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1:00 |
: TIL that “Turanga Leela” is a reference to a symphony
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1:00 |
: For those unaware, that’s the Futurama character
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1:01 |
: Here’s the spotify link for the recording
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1:02 |
: When I watch Matthew Liberatore pitch I see a physical resemblance to Chuck Finley.
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1:02 |
: Fischer has passed the Montforts as baseball’s worst owner, no?
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1:02 |
: Yeah
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1:02 |
: Depository of Sadness…great band name
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1:02 |
: Hi Dan! What’s the average WAR movement on a pitcher from one year to the next..
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1:02 |
: Don’t know that specific offhand
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1:02 |
: Is Michael Harris going to be fine? His statcast data seems good. What’s his ROS expectations?
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1:02 |
: Him I’m not worried about
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1:03 |
: The ERA is still ugly but do you think Chris Sale is somewhat back?
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1:03 |
: While I’m not optimsitic about his health, I am about his performance
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1:03 |
: When teams openly talk about not wanting to jerk prospects around by calling them up and then sending them down if they see them as “core pieces” do you think that sometimes a player in the organization who is “up and down” might get the wrong message about his role/future? I swear I’m not Kyle Stowers’s cousin.
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1:03 |
: It depends on the organization. Some communicate better than others.
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1:03 |
: There’s a real variance on how teams treat their prospects
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1:04 |
: Did you know that Jake Bauers has an xWOBA of .413, a 25% barrel rate and a 50% hard-hit rate, as per Statcast, in 40 PAs. How many PAs until you think it means something if he keeps that up?
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1:04 |
: Actually, I did not
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1:05 |
: it’s enough that it’s interesting, though he has a long history of MEH to overcome
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1:05 |
: The games are too fast! What can we do to also them down? There are no bad ideas.
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1:05 |
: Any time a team is up by 10 runs, Steve Trachsel automatically comes in to pitch
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1:06 |
: On Senga’s player page, is the ghost fork classified as the splitter? And if so, that’s weird, the cutter seems to be a much more valuable pitch.
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1:06 |
: Yeah, pitch info doesn’t use forkball as one of their classes in clustering
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1:07 |
: but statcast does
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1:07 |
: it’s just that you’ve had so few players explicitly through a forkball
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1:07 |
: Apparently the White Sox have started a RHP for 162 straight games. Is this a not-talked-about lowkey contributing factor in their lack of success?
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1:08 |
: If their RHP could get guys out, I don’t think anyone would care
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1:08 |
: As KLaw said in a 1/30/2020 chat in response to a question about Matt Carpenter. “He got old. Time is a motherfucker.”
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1:08 |
: He unolded!
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1:09 |
: Dan, based on your analysis, what’s the single most impactful change the Royals could make to their lineup or strategy to improve their performance this season?
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1:09 |
: keeping Garcia in the lineup probably means they’re pretty close to optimal
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1:09 |
: there are things I’d do that they’re not, but not to increase results THIS season
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1:10 |
: On that note, it is time for me to head out for another week
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1:10 |
: Thank you for coming everyone and hope to se eyou all next time!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
I’m an elementary school counselor and sometimes play the adagio cantabile from the Pathetique in classes when we’re practicing mindfulness!