Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 5/27/21

12:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: IT IS CHAT TIME

12:03
J: More likely to be moved by the deadline: Haniger or Seager?

12:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Haniger

12:03
CeddyBReady: So, all it took was giving up on hitting righty to get my stuff together.  Can you comment on how a change in handedness will impact the projection for Ceddy Mullins going forward?  Viva la Switchies!

12:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It should have some impact in season-to-season. less so in-season since it’s a simpler model

12:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: You see switch-hitters with platoon splits give it up from time to time

12:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Usually the ones who have big splits, for obvious reasons

12:07
Dan Grant: Are Ke’Bryan Hayes hitting improvements real?

12:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If you mean a wRC+ of 200, no.

12:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But there’s reason to think that he could theoretically be an average first baseman offensively now. That he’s an awesome defensive third baseman makes it even better!

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: You know who else hit like an average 1B and was awesome defensively? ADRIAN BELTRE

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: You thought I was going to say the aristocrats, but that doesn’t make any sense here

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not that I’m predicting he’s Adrian Beltre

12:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ZiPS had Hayes at 22 MLB WAR, tenth in the majors, before the 2020 season. And that was when ZiPS was ambivalent about his bat and thought he’d be a 90 OPS+ hitter for his career

12:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: That was up to 106 and 30 before this season

12:12
Frothing Mets Fans: What’s up with my boy Franky Lindor?

12:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m…not sure

12:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s seemed oddly passive at the plate

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But nobody’s going to look good to your eyes when you know what their line is

12:14
Joseph: Yasmani Grandal… what’s this guys deal?

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Four years, $73 million.

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: (Sorry)

12:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He believe in non-passive resistance to pitches he doesn’t like. He’s Plate Discipline Gandhi.

12:15
Maddoning: The Angels are going to waste another year of Trout and Ohtani, aren’t they?  Who can we blame for this travesty?

12:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s the Angels curse

12:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I really wanted to see them end up with Bauer

12:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Ohtani is amazing though

12:17
Cave Dameron: Dan, have you ever dabbled with doing projection systems with other sports (NBA, NFL, competitive yo-yoing)? Thank you

12:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The first two

12:18
Avatar Dan Szymborski: NBA farther along than NFL, but I have so much baseball stuff to do that it’s way on the back burner

12:18
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Did a lot with NFL when I was with ESPN, but the problem you run into is that, due to injury rates, you really should rarely predict a RB to have 1000 yards preseason and there’s no way fantasy players don’t scream bloody murder about that

12:19
Jacques Pederson: What did you think of the Shildt/Gallegos/Joe West incident yesterday, along with Shildt’s post game press conference?

12:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: On the one hand, MLB should investigate.

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And shildt is right to be upset; the enforcement of substances seems to be quite arbitrary

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: On the other hand, I assume that Joe West is in the wrong because of Joe West’s extensive history of being exactly wrong.

12:21
Eric the Red: have Castellanos and Winkers Zips dramatically changed due to their blistering starts? And flip side has Suarez Zips been negatively changed due to his terrible start?

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: About 25 points of wRC+ for both in ZiPS ROS, which is about as dramatic as you’ll get in season

12:21
aj: Gleyber Torres, not a terrible defender at SS now ?

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Still talking small sample

12:22
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nice to see some life in the bat after an execrable start

12:23
Gordon Lightfoot: Quit slaggin my lyrics!

12:23
Angels fan: When is the Angel prospect list coming out? Feeling rather neglected, here.

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Gotta ask Eric! It’s his baby!

12:24
Red: Hey Dan, who would you take in a fight: Spencer Torkelson or a level 29 Torkoal with a white smoke and overheat setup?

12:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think the Torkoal. I don’t know how you fight a human sized tortoise

12:24
Dude: Can you please tell Jaffe to do JAWS with fWAR? Thanks

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t know the fully story

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but I believe that since it was done with BR for so long, it was agreed to keep it with bWAR for stability

12:25
Gordon Lightfoot: What would it take for the Jays to get Kris Bryant and Hendricks?

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: A LOT

12:25
Jewish Pache: How legit is Austin Riley? Running a .400 BABIP and his wOBA > his xwOBA but the xwOBA is still .370. We buying in or is this just a hot streak?

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s on a hot streak, but I think he’ll still be fine

12:25
Brad NJ: is Bundy a buy low right now?

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yes

12:26
Fangraph’s Lurker: All hail the lunch time chat! lets talk chili and sammiches

12:26
Ghost of Bill James: What’s more likely, that we see someone hit .400 again, or an ERA under 1.00 (qualifying)?

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ERA under 1

12:28
TomBruno23: Wanna guess who leads all MLB SS in wRC+ with a minimum of 50 PAs, at 184?

12:28
Avatar Dan Szymborski: CHARLIE BLACKMON!

12:28
Avatar Dan Szymborski: (Sorry)

12:28
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I did a clickbait headline thing neural network run for baseball and there’s a funny Blackmon one in there

12:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

12:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: near the bottom of the middle column

12:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: So, after a few requests, I then generated an article for that headline

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And then, since the article reference Blackmon’s feud with Ben Affleck (!), I generated an article on THAT theme

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yup, this is how I spend my life

12:30
Guest: The White Sox getting Adam Engle back is that enough that Rick Hahn will not look to acquire an outfielder and instead wait until Roberts and Jimenez come back later in the year ?

12:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Sadly, yes.

12:32
Cat Latos: Am I dumb to start learning to code now and actually think I could get a job in baseball entering my 40s?  Gonna learn anyways since I can get a not-baseball job

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Learn something because you want to learn something and then see what happens

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Brian Cartwright sells a lot of data to teams and he’s like in his 50s I think

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Thought I might be fooled by his mustache

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I assume everyone with a mustache is 55

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 55.

12:33
Cat Latos: What do my cat friends do?

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Justinian is sleeping on top of the computer

12:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Constantine is on the steps playing with his cat toy that’s shaped like gym pants

12:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Last I saw Cassiopeia, she was making that weird chattering sound at cicadas outside one of the windows

12:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And when I grabbed a drink before lunch, Mercutio was asleep in a guest bed

12:35
Cowboy Joe West: I have umpired more games than anyone. Fact. I have sold more CD’ s at flea markets than anyone. Fact. I disagree.

12:35
TomBruno23: I have been good about switching from coffee to water after one large cup from St. Louis Bread Company. I encourage all of you to do the same. The baseball world needs us.

12:35
Billy Beane: Dan, I finally have all my keyboard parts thanks in large part to your recommendations and I have a great keyboard now. Appreciate you.

12:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m glad you’re enjoying it!

12:35
Defenestrater: To be fair to Joe West; it was the second base umpire (Dan Bellino) who raised the alarm, not West.

12:35
Avatar Dan Szymborski: WHY ARE WE BEING FAIR TO JOE WEST?

12:35
Curious George: Why does anyone take Zips seriously?

12:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Szymborski-controlled media.

12:36
Walk-in Song: You are a closer, what do you walk into?

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Opening of the second movement of Prokofiev’s Scythian Suite

12:37
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12:37
Chris: Would you claim lindblom or should he be unclaimed?

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Depends what the choice is

12:37
Dan Grant: Rest of the season, Bundy or Paddack?

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’d still say Paddack as I’m a deluded believer

12:38
zurzles: Hey Dan, trying to impress my beautiful family with some homemade Szymborski Sztew. In what order should I add the julienned mushrooms, pickled beets, and quail livers?

12:38
zurzles: Also: do I really have to let it simmer for 3 weeks? My children are hungry

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: 3 months, not 3 weeks

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: also, I’m allergic to mushrooms, so I cannot partake.

12:38
TomBruno23: When will .300 become the new .400?

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: We’re not at that point. But .350 may be

12:38
Norm: Baddoo has started hitting again and cut the Ks and increased the BBs dramatically this month. Am I crazy for being incredibly bullish on him as a starter long term? He had only a small amount of pro experience coming into this season

12:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not crazy. The thing is he doesn’t have a long record – uncertainty can be a good thing

12:39
Kyler: With Ozuna about to miss a good chunk of time what is the Braves’ best option to fill his spot? I’m afraid it’s going to be Ender in CF and Heredia in LF which is… fine but not great.

12:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: IVE GOT A PIECE IN THE QUEUE

12:39
CeddyBReady: Could you please stop apologizing for “Szym’ing” people.  They deserve it.

12:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I didn’t think I had earned a verb yet

12:40
Bob: I just want to say that 2021 Wilson Ramos is genuinely the worst defensive catcher I have ever seen. Is this his last season as a major leaguer?

12:41
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I dunno, I’ve seen Peter O’Brien

12:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s definitely running out of time as a starter

12:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I can see him getting a year or two in an ill conceived bench role

12:42
zurzles: Is this what Joey Gallo is now? Was there any reason to expect him to repeat 2019? Also is this what Matt Chapman is now? Was there any reason to expect him to repeat 2019?

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m mostly given up on Gallo being more, but I’m still cautiously optimistic on Chapman

12:43
Sodo Mojo: The Mariners……are not good.  Do they have enough talent that if they can add 5-8 WAR in free agency this off season they can compete for a wild card spot next year?

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t think so

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s a weird organization that feels like it froze in transition mode somewhere

12:43
TomBruno23: I have learned how to make money abritraging White Castle Impossible Sliders around the neighborhood. I can teach all of you how to do the same and create your own source of steady income.

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: They have Impossible sliders?

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I see they do

12:44
Al Gone Quinn: XL gym pants?

12:44
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The toy gym pants are tiny cat toy ones. They came in their monthly kitnipbox when the theme was gym equipment

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: like there’s also a catnip barbell somewhere

12:45
Rehab Failure: Is Syndergaard toast?

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No

12:45
Al Gone Quinn: Did you see Jeff Zimmerman get owned by his own children on Twitter yesterday?

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No, I didn’t! Poor Jeff!

12:46
zurzles: I need to stop buying my recipe books off the black market

12:46
Fun With Words: you are tasked with inserting a hapax legomenon into your next article.

12:46
Norm: Would you claim Lindblom if you are Detroit? Urena just got pulled from his last start with forearm issues. Also, their pen is atrocious

12:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think I would

12:46
TomBruno23: Of course they do and, go figure, they pretty much taste the same as the Not Impossible Sliders.

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I rarely have White Castle

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The nearest is a significant drive away from anything I normally drive to and my girlfriend detests them so will loudly complain and punch me in the shoulder repeatedly if I suggest sliders

12:47
JT: This is my walk-up music and it is better than everybody’s. Shut up.

12:47
SadYanksFan: Kluber’s injury feels like the end of the mirage for the rotation. How worried should I be?

12:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: As long as Cole is healthy, the wheels likely stay on

12:48
Norm: I just watched Heat with De Niro and Pacino last week and it was absolutely terrible. No pacing, paper thin characters, and tons of cheesy dialogue. Why is this movie well regarded?

12:48
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think part of it is it hasn’t aged well as a lot of the tropes have become more common

12:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ThougH I still like it way better than you do

12:49
Nate: Does ZiPs show any sympathy for the Tigers rebuilding efforts?

12:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No, not really

12:49
JT: PS: I told my 10-year-old daughter that that will be the song for our daddy-daughter dance at her wedding, straight popping and locking. Dope.

12:49
David: With recent years’ changes in what offense looks like, in what way has the break even point for stolen base success rate changed?

12:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: When the negative cost for an out goes down and the relative benefit of a base goes up, break-even is a bit lower

12:50
CeddyBReady: HEAT IS A GODDAMNED MASTERPIECE OF ACTING AND DIRECTING!  All I want is for Bobby to run away with me!

12:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I wish I could set up street fights insice chats

12:50
CeddyBReady: Szym’ing – Obvious opening taken for one’s own amusement, usually followed by unnecessary apologies in a chat room.

12:50
TomBruno23: Ricky Horton actually said this on the broadcast yesterday, “You really do not want to force John Gant into a situation where he has to throw strikes.”

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Imagine that you were poisoned and the antidote can only be won at a carnival game by having a friend knock over battles with a baseball

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Would YOU take Gant right now?

12:51
TomBruno23: Volumes will be written about the Angels’ squandering of The Mike Trout Era.

12:51
Jonathan: How long will Crawford keep this up? Trying to hit the sell high window before it closes.

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Probably not long

12:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Him and Posey have been ridonkulus this year

12:52
Rodney: Does ZIPS have capacity to adjust for negative hitting impacts that seem connected to players playing out of position, or being asked to slide up the defensive spectrum? Thinking of guys like Dom Smith and Nick Senzel here…

12:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No, it’s a bit beyond scope

12:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I haven’t found substantial data to support such a thing

12:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not htat it doesn’t happen, but the range of results is all over the place

12:53
Keefths: What’s the deal with Shane Bieber ? He seems like a different pitcher. Walks are up and barrel % is very high

12:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ZiPS actually thinks he’s “earned” his walks so far. His first strike percentage has dropped way off

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Sorry, door

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think in the end, the answer will be that long-term, 2019’s the more realistic level for Bieber

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The walk rate increase has been msotly against lefties

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’s kinda trusting his changeup a lot less this year

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and I wonder if there’s some interaction here

12:59
Danny Almonte: Is there a player who has fallen off a cliff at any point and you never had much of an idea why?

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: hopefully not Lindor!

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Pujols

1:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: (unless the age rumor turns out true, but I only know what I can prove)

1:01
Danny Almonte: What player from the past (or players) do you think would most benefit from the analytics and such of now?

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I kinda wonder about Ted Williams

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: he certainly thought a lot about it as a science

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but you can also argue that he also possibly instinctively grasped all the things we see with data?

1:02
Norm: Point Break, on the other hand, is the perfect action film

1:03
Dan: Either you or Ben promised a chilli oil recipe this week and forgot or I had a fanGRAPHS/top chef mashup fever dream….

1:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think that was ben

1:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: You need a recipe for that?

1:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: oil, dump in hot chilis and maybe something like a little garlic. wait

1:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: though you could use sichuan chilis. tehy have a very different taste

1:04
Jim Leyland Palmer: Do you read every question starting with “What’s the deal” with Jerry Seinfled voice? I do

1:04
CeddyBReady: I WANT TO KILL THAT MAN FOR NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HEIST FILM AND AN ACTION BROMANCE!

1:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: We are a murder free zone

1:04
Appa Yip Yip: Chili oil is easy you mash up a bunch of spicy chilis in your mouth, pour oil down your gullet, swish it around, then spit it into a jar. 👍

1:04
Guest: Me and my beautiful wife tried szyming last night and we both developed gout

1:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: On that note, it’s time for me to head out for another week

1:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Thanks for coming everyone!





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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trentjreimers
3 years ago

Dan, your chats contain so much pure chaos energy, it is great!