Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 5/27/21
| 12:03 |
: IT IS CHAT TIME
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| 12:03 |
: More likely to be moved by the deadline: Haniger or Seager?
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| 12:03 |
: Haniger
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| 12:03 |
: So, all it took was giving up on hitting righty to get my stuff together. Can you comment on how a change in handedness will impact the projection for Ceddy Mullins going forward? Viva la Switchies!
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| 12:03 |
: It should have some impact in season-to-season. less so in-season since it’s a simpler model
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| 12:06 |
: You see switch-hitters with platoon splits give it up from time to time
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| 12:06 |
: Usually the ones who have big splits, for obvious reasons
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| 12:07 |
: Are Ke’Bryan Hayes hitting improvements real?
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| 12:08 |
: If you mean a wRC+ of 200, no.
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| 12:08 |
: But there’s reason to think that he could theoretically be an average first baseman offensively now. That he’s an awesome defensive third baseman makes it even better!
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| 12:09 |
: You know who else hit like an average 1B and was awesome defensively? ADRIAN BELTRE
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| 12:09 |
: You thought I was going to say the aristocrats, but that doesn’t make any sense here
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| 12:09 |
: Not that I’m predicting he’s Adrian Beltre
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| 12:11 |
: ZiPS had Hayes at 22 MLB WAR, tenth in the majors, before the 2020 season. And that was when ZiPS was ambivalent about his bat and thought he’d be a 90 OPS+ hitter for his career
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| 12:12 |
: That was up to 106 and 30 before this season
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| 12:12 |
: What’s up with my boy Franky Lindor?
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| 12:12 |
: I’m…not sure
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| 12:13 |
: He’s seemed oddly passive at the plate
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| 12:14 |
: But nobody’s going to look good to your eyes when you know what their line is
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| 12:14 |
: Yasmani Grandal… what’s this guys deal?
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| 12:14 |
: Four years, $73 million.
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| 12:14 |
: (Sorry)
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| 12:15 |
: He believe in non-passive resistance to pitches he doesn’t like. He’s Plate Discipline Gandhi.
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| 12:15 |
: The Angels are going to waste another year of Trout and Ohtani, aren’t they? Who can we blame for this travesty?
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| 12:16 |
: It’s the Angels curse
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| 12:17 |
: I really wanted to see them end up with Bauer
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| 12:17 |
: Ohtani is amazing though
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| 12:17 |
: Dan, have you ever dabbled with doing projection systems with other sports (NBA, NFL, competitive yo-yoing)? Thank you
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| 12:17 |
: The first two
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| 12:18 |
: NBA farther along than NFL, but I have so much baseball stuff to do that it’s way on the back burner
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| 12:18 |
: Did a lot with NFL when I was with ESPN, but the problem you run into is that, due to injury rates, you really should rarely predict a RB to have 1000 yards preseason and there’s no way fantasy players don’t scream bloody murder about that
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| 12:19 |
: What did you think of the Shildt/Gallegos/Joe West incident yesterday, along with Shildt’s post game press conference?
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| 12:19 |
: On the one hand, MLB should investigate.
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| 12:20 |
: And shildt is right to be upset; the enforcement of substances seems to be quite arbitrary
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| 12:20 |
: On the other hand, I assume that Joe West is in the wrong because of Joe West’s extensive history of being exactly wrong.
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| 12:21 |
: have Castellanos and Winkers Zips dramatically changed due to their blistering starts? And flip side has Suarez Zips been negatively changed due to his terrible start?
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| 12:21 |
: About 25 points of wRC+ for both in ZiPS ROS, which is about as dramatic as you’ll get in season
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| 12:21 |
: Gleyber Torres, not a terrible defender at SS now ?
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| 12:21 |
: Still talking small sample
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| 12:22 |
: Nice to see some life in the bat after an execrable start
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| 12:23 |
: Quit slaggin my lyrics!
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| 12:23 |
: When is the Angel prospect list coming out? Feeling rather neglected, here.
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| 12:23 |
: Gotta ask Eric! It’s his baby!
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| 12:24 |
: Hey Dan, who would you take in a fight: Spencer Torkelson or a level 29 Torkoal with a white smoke and overheat setup?
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| 12:24 |
: I think the Torkoal. I don’t know how you fight a human sized tortoise
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| 12:24 |
: Can you please tell Jaffe to do JAWS with fWAR? Thanks
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| 12:25 |
: I don’t know the fully story
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| 12:25 |
: but I believe that since it was done with BR for so long, it was agreed to keep it with bWAR for stability
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| 12:25 |
: What would it take for the Jays to get Kris Bryant and Hendricks?
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| 12:25 |
: A LOT
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| 12:25 |
: How legit is Austin Riley? Running a .400 BABIP and his wOBA > his xwOBA but the xwOBA is still .370. We buying in or is this just a hot streak?
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| 12:25 |
: He’s on a hot streak, but I think he’ll still be fine
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| 12:25 |
: is Bundy a buy low right now?
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| 12:26 |
: Yes
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| 12:26 |
: All hail the lunch time chat! lets talk chili and sammiches
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| 12:26 |
: What’s more likely, that we see someone hit .400 again, or an ERA under 1.00 (qualifying)?
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| 12:26 |
: ERA under 1
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| 12:28 |
: Wanna guess who leads all MLB SS in wRC+ with a minimum of 50 PAs, at 184?
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| 12:28 |
: CHARLIE BLACKMON!
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| 12:28 |
: (Sorry)
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| 12:28 |
: I did a clickbait headline thing neural network run for baseball and there’s a funny Blackmon one in there
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| 12:29 |
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| 12:29 |
: near the bottom of the middle column
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| 12:29 |
: So, after a few requests, I then generated an article for that headline
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| 12:30 |
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| 12:30 |
: And then, since the article reference Blackmon’s feud with Ben Affleck (!), I generated an article on THAT theme
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| 12:30 |
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| 12:30 |
: Yup, this is how I spend my life
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| 12:30 |
: The White Sox getting Adam Engle back is that enough that Rick Hahn will not look to acquire an outfielder and instead wait until Roberts and Jimenez come back later in the year ?
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| 12:31 |
: Sadly, yes.
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| 12:32 |
: Am I dumb to start learning to code now and actually think I could get a job in baseball entering my 40s? Gonna learn anyways since I can get a not-baseball job
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| 12:32 |
: Learn something because you want to learn something and then see what happens
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| 12:32 |
: Brian Cartwright sells a lot of data to teams and he’s like in his 50s I think
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| 12:32 |
: Thought I might be fooled by his mustache
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| 12:32 |
: I assume everyone with a mustache is 55
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| 12:33 |
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| 12:33 |
: 55.
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| 12:33 |
: What do my cat friends do?
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| 12:33 |
: Justinian is sleeping on top of the computer
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| 12:34 |
: Constantine is on the steps playing with his cat toy that’s shaped like gym pants
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| 12:34 |
: Last I saw Cassiopeia, she was making that weird chattering sound at cicadas outside one of the windows
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| 12:35 |
: And when I grabbed a drink before lunch, Mercutio was asleep in a guest bed
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| 12:35 |
: I have umpired more games than anyone. Fact. I have sold more CD’ s at flea markets than anyone. Fact. I disagree.
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| 12:35 |
: I have been good about switching from coffee to water after one large cup from St. Louis Bread Company. I encourage all of you to do the same. The baseball world needs us.
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| 12:35 |
: Dan, I finally have all my keyboard parts thanks in large part to your recommendations and I have a great keyboard now. Appreciate you.
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| 12:35 |
: I’m glad you’re enjoying it!
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| 12:35 |
: To be fair to Joe West; it was the second base umpire (Dan Bellino) who raised the alarm, not West.
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| 12:35 |
: WHY ARE WE BEING FAIR TO JOE WEST?
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| 12:35 |
: Why does anyone take Zips seriously?
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| 12:36 |
: The Szymborski-controlled media.
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| 12:36 |
: You are a closer, what do you walk into?
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| 12:37 |
: Opening of the second movement of Prokofiev’s Scythian Suite
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| 12:37 |
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| 12:37 |
: Would you claim lindblom or should he be unclaimed?
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| 12:37 |
: Depends what the choice is
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| 12:37 |
: Rest of the season, Bundy or Paddack?
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| 12:38 |
: I’d still say Paddack as I’m a deluded believer
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| 12:38 |
: Hey Dan, trying to impress my beautiful family with some homemade Szymborski Sztew. In what order should I add the julienned mushrooms, pickled beets, and quail livers?
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| 12:38 |
: Also: do I really have to let it simmer for 3 weeks? My children are hungry
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| 12:38 |
: 3 months, not 3 weeks
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| 12:38 |
: also, I’m allergic to mushrooms, so I cannot partake.
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| 12:38 |
: When will .300 become the new .400?
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| 12:38 |
: We’re not at that point. But .350 may be
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| 12:38 |
: Baddoo has started hitting again and cut the Ks and increased the BBs dramatically this month. Am I crazy for being incredibly bullish on him as a starter long term? He had only a small amount of pro experience coming into this season
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| 12:39 |
: Not crazy. The thing is he doesn’t have a long record – uncertainty can be a good thing
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| 12:39 |
: With Ozuna about to miss a good chunk of time what is the Braves’ best option to fill his spot? I’m afraid it’s going to be Ender in CF and Heredia in LF which is… fine but not great.
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| 12:39 |
: IVE GOT A PIECE IN THE QUEUE
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| 12:39 |
: Could you please stop apologizing for “Szym’ing” people. They deserve it.
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| 12:39 |
: I didn’t think I had earned a verb yet
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| 12:40 |
: I just want to say that 2021 Wilson Ramos is genuinely the worst defensive catcher I have ever seen. Is this his last season as a major leaguer?
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| 12:41 |
: I dunno, I’ve seen Peter O’Brien
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| 12:42 |
: He’s definitely running out of time as a starter
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| 12:42 |
: I can see him getting a year or two in an ill conceived bench role
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| 12:42 |
: Is this what Joey Gallo is now? Was there any reason to expect him to repeat 2019? Also is this what Matt Chapman is now? Was there any reason to expect him to repeat 2019?
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| 12:43 |
: I’m mostly given up on Gallo being more, but I’m still cautiously optimistic on Chapman
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| 12:43 |
: The Mariners……are not good. Do they have enough talent that if they can add 5-8 WAR in free agency this off season they can compete for a wild card spot next year?
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| 12:43 |
: I don’t think so
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| 12:43 |
: It’s a weird organization that feels like it froze in transition mode somewhere
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| 12:43 |
: I have learned how to make money abritraging White Castle Impossible Sliders around the neighborhood. I can teach all of you how to do the same and create your own source of steady income.
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| 12:43 |
: They have Impossible sliders?
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| 12:43 |
: I see they do
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| 12:44 |
: XL gym pants?
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| 12:44 |
: The toy gym pants are tiny cat toy ones. They came in their monthly kitnipbox when the theme was gym equipment
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| 12:45 |
: like there’s also a catnip barbell somewhere
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| 12:45 |
: Is Syndergaard toast?
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| 12:45 |
: No
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| 12:45 |
: Did you see Jeff Zimmerman get owned by his own children on Twitter yesterday?
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| 12:45 |
: No, I didn’t! Poor Jeff!
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| 12:46 |
: I need to stop buying my recipe books off the black market
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| 12:46 |
: you are tasked with inserting a hapax legomenon into your next article.
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| 12:46 |
: Would you claim Lindblom if you are Detroit? Urena just got pulled from his last start with forearm issues. Also, their pen is atrocious
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| 12:46 |
: I think I would
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| 12:46 |
: Of course they do and, go figure, they pretty much taste the same as the Not Impossible Sliders.
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| 12:47 |
: I rarely have White Castle
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| 12:47 |
: The nearest is a significant drive away from anything I normally drive to and my girlfriend detests them so will loudly complain and punch me in the shoulder repeatedly if I suggest sliders
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| 12:47 |
: This is my walk-up music and it is better than everybody’s. Shut up.
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| 12:47 |
: Kluber’s injury feels like the end of the mirage for the rotation. How worried should I be?
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| 12:48 |
: As long as Cole is healthy, the wheels likely stay on
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| 12:48 |
: I just watched Heat with De Niro and Pacino last week and it was absolutely terrible. No pacing, paper thin characters, and tons of cheesy dialogue. Why is this movie well regarded?
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| 12:48 |
: I think part of it is it hasn’t aged well as a lot of the tropes have become more common
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| 12:49 |
: ThougH I still like it way better than you do
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| 12:49 |
: Does ZiPs show any sympathy for the Tigers rebuilding efforts?
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| 12:49 |
: No, not really
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| 12:49 |
: PS: I told my 10-year-old daughter that that will be the song for our daddy-daughter dance at her wedding, straight popping and locking. Dope.
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| 12:49 |
: With recent years’ changes in what offense looks like, in what way has the break even point for stolen base success rate changed?
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| 12:49 |
: When the negative cost for an out goes down and the relative benefit of a base goes up, break-even is a bit lower
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| 12:50 |
: HEAT IS A GODDAMNED MASTERPIECE OF ACTING AND DIRECTING! All I want is for Bobby to run away with me!
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| 12:50 |
: I wish I could set up street fights insice chats
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| 12:50 |
: Szym’ing – Obvious opening taken for one’s own amusement, usually followed by unnecessary apologies in a chat room.
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| 12:50 |
: Ricky Horton actually said this on the broadcast yesterday, “You really do not want to force John Gant into a situation where he has to throw strikes.”
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| 12:51 |
: Imagine that you were poisoned and the antidote can only be won at a carnival game by having a friend knock over battles with a baseball
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| 12:51 |
: Would YOU take Gant right now?
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| 12:51 |
: Volumes will be written about the Angels’ squandering of The Mike Trout Era.
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| 12:51 |
: How long will Crawford keep this up? Trying to hit the sell high window before it closes.
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| 12:51 |
: Probably not long
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| 12:52 |
: Him and Posey have been ridonkulus this year
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| 12:52 |
: Does ZIPS have capacity to adjust for negative hitting impacts that seem connected to players playing out of position, or being asked to slide up the defensive spectrum? Thinking of guys like Dom Smith and Nick Senzel here…
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| 12:52 |
: No, it’s a bit beyond scope
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| 12:53 |
: I haven’t found substantial data to support such a thing
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| 12:53 |
: Not htat it doesn’t happen, but the range of results is all over the place
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| 12:53 |
: What’s the deal with Shane Bieber ? He seems like a different pitcher. Walks are up and barrel % is very high
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| 12:55 |
: ZiPS actually thinks he’s “earned” his walks so far. His first strike percentage has dropped way off
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| 12:58 |
: Sorry, door
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| 12:58 |
: I think in the end, the answer will be that long-term, 2019’s the more realistic level for Bieber
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| 12:59 |
: The walk rate increase has been msotly against lefties
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| 12:59 |
: He’s kinda trusting his changeup a lot less this year
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| 12:59 |
: and I wonder if there’s some interaction here
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| 12:59 |
: Is there a player who has fallen off a cliff at any point and you never had much of an idea why?
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| 12:59 |
: hopefully not Lindor!
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| 12:59 |
: Pujols
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| 1:00 |
: (unless the age rumor turns out true, but I only know what I can prove)
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| 1:01 |
: What player from the past (or players) do you think would most benefit from the analytics and such of now?
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| 1:02 |
: I kinda wonder about Ted Williams
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| 1:02 |
: he certainly thought a lot about it as a science
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| 1:02 |
: but you can also argue that he also possibly instinctively grasped all the things we see with data?
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| 1:02 |
: Point Break, on the other hand, is the perfect action film
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| 1:03 |
: Either you or Ben promised a chilli oil recipe this week and forgot or I had a fanGRAPHS/top chef mashup fever dream….
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| 1:03 |
: I think that was ben
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| 1:03 |
: You need a recipe for that?
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| 1:04 |
: oil, dump in hot chilis and maybe something like a little garlic. wait
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| 1:04 |
: though you could use sichuan chilis. tehy have a very different taste
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| 1:04 |
: Do you read every question starting with “What’s the deal” with Jerry Seinfled voice? I do
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| 1:04 |
: I WANT TO KILL THAT MAN FOR NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HEIST FILM AND AN ACTION BROMANCE!
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| 1:04 |
: We are a murder free zone
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| 1:04 |
: Chili oil is easy you mash up a bunch of spicy chilis in your mouth, pour oil down your gullet, swish it around, then spit it into a jar. 👍
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| 1:04 |
: Me and my beautiful wife tried szyming last night and we both developed gout
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| 1:05 |
: On that note, it’s time for me to head out for another week
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| 1:05 |
: Thanks for coming everyone!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Dan Szymborski
Dan, your chats contain so much pure chaos energy, it is great!